Post the exact moment a series went to shit.

>>159416845
It was shit the moment they announced his VA.

I'm too lazy to look it up, but the moment that the DBZ story continued on after Namek blew up.

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>>159416845
When this guy showed up

>>159417023
The entire series was shit, anon

>>159416877
Shut up, his VA was a GOAT casting choice.

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It was on shaky ground as soon as the time skip started, but this was the moment the series jumped the shark.

>>159416845
Speaking of, do we have any information on the novel?

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>>159416920
I see. It still hurts.

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The handling of this was such a mess. It's still dead to me.

>>159416920
what's the context on this?

>>159417136
That was the best moment of the series

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>>159417169
Mikotofags get BTFO'd

>>159417136
That was great, Not every reveal has to be epic and dramatic.

>>159417241
The scene as a whole was pretty dramatic anyway

>>159417136
I don't even really like SnK but it was awesome, It's very different to all the shit with dramatic shots, characters making shoked faces and shit from anime.

>>159417136
No, it was the next arc that ruined the manga. This part was actually pretty good.

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>>159417192
How so? Mikoto is still objectively the best character with compelling themes regarding her story. The image that anon posted just precedes the moment Othinusfags get BTFO when their shitty drama queen gets regressed into an irrelevant comic relief character.

>>159417259
Yeah i mean that i liked how casual the reveal was, most of "shoking reveals" are like that IRL desu.

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>>159417169
The world is basically destroyed and the MC is tortured by the girl there for nearly an eternity. I'm talking millions and billions of years. She tries to break him and kills him thousands of times. At the end of their squabble they come to an understanding and she restores the world to it's original state, in which the entire world initiates a manhunt for her and the MC who decides to protect her. Of course, the entire world gets BTFO by him.
It's nonsensical on multiple levels, the most glaring problem being the MC retaining his sanity after everything that happened. The arc might have been slightly redeemed if she died at the end, but she didn't. People are too blinded by shipping cancer to care.

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>>159417286

MY

>>159417136
i re-read this several times, i thought the translators fucked up hard somehow

>>159417136
Sorry they didn't spend half the chapter powering up beforehand.

>>159417287
>Mikoto is still objectively the best character with compelling themes regarding her story.
Don't come crawling here as if you're any better than Othinusfags. Mikoto isn't the best anything. Accelerator had a more compelling story between volumes 13, 15, and 19-22 than Mikoto had across 40 volumes and her own spinoff.

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> trash
> Zero interest
> Never finish series.

>>159416845
That's a nice handblade laser thing. Is that Yell from Akikan?

>>159417302
It was bad long before that.

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>>159417287
>>159417307

>>159417241
It's more the stupidity of them doing it that got to me. Even Eren couldn't believe how retarded they were. And the explanation as to why they were acting like that just felt contrived as hell.

>>159417274
>characters making shoked faces and shit from anime.
Don't forget the weird throat sounds that happen.

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>>159417347
Accel's angsty tsunshit was even worse than Mikoto's in OT. I'm not even talking about his cringey pseud's sperging about muh villainy. And even Sisters arc was way more appealing.
So no, Mikoto IS the best everything.

>>159417077
Shut up Satomi, he's going to beat your ass to see the beautiful moment you break.

>>159417307
index is fucking ridiculous, I kinda want to pick it back up now

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Twenty years later and I'm still salty as fuck.

Turning Point 4

>>159417136
Fuck off, that was awesome. What ruined snk was the politics arc and now the endless warriors arc.

>>159417395
They had two shifters right in front of them, one of which was unconscious. Regardless of the original mission, taking Eren and Ymir back to Marley made sense, especially with the loss of Annie. Go back to Marley, then return to Paradis with the Attack and Jaw titans to recover the coordinate (which they don't know Eren already has).

Honestly, it would have been stupid for Reiner to *not* act right then and there.

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>>159417136
it was just retarded, didn't even wait until the ackerhax was out of earshot

>>159417460
His relationship with Last Order blows anything Mikoto has out of the water. I'd rather read Accel going from total edgelord to getting a wake up call instead of Mikoto's stagnant bullshit every volume.
>Sisters arc was way more appealing
Yeah, those sisters she doesn't give a flying fuck about, right? If you want to talk "cringey" go re-read NT3 when she was buying rings for a guy who isn't interested in her instead of addressing the new sister which should be a big fucking deal to her. Mikoto and her fans are a joke.

>>159417136
Nearly everything that happened after it become popular was a mistake

>>159417307
Wait, is that ragna?

>>159417589
that's Othinus

>>159417567
They didn't know she had Ackerhax, the only non-shifter Eldian they're afraid of is Levi. And it wouldn't matter because thwy were seconds away from transforming.

>>159416845
Are there any other anime characters that have a handblade similar to what is depicted in this pic?

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>>159417589
Touma.

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>>159417643
I don't know why but this is hillarious to me.

>>159417395
The reason Reiner was acting like that makes a lot of sense now that we know what we know from the latest chapters
>Reiner comes from a place where his race, the Eldians, are hated because of past sins
>this in turn makes the mainland Eldians blame the Walldians for their subjugation
>Reiner and his friends were trained since childhood to take the coordinate, a mission that was suppose to take only about a month
>the mission was to include Annie, Bertolt, Reiner, and Marcel
>it is revealed that Marcel lied to Marlayen Officials in order to protect his brother, thus allowing Reiner to inheret the Armored Titan
>Marcel is later eaten by Ymir while protecting Reiner, who can only watch as his friend is eaten before his eyes
>believing that everyone inside the walls were evil and disgusting devils, they broke through the walls when they were like 12 years old
>this resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Eldians as the titans quickly overran Shiganshina and wall Maria
>before they could penetrate further into the walls and steal the Coordinate from royal family, Grisha Yaeger managed to track them down first, steal the coordinate, and kill all of the royal family present
>this threw a huge flaw into their plans as they no longer knew who possessed the coordinate
>they had no choice but to Enroll in the Military in order to gather more information (on a side note, this also caused the Marlayen government to dispatch Zeke and Pieck in order to aid with the recovery of the Coordinate)
>during their time infiltrating it became very apparent to them that the people they had committed mass murder against were not devils, and were in fact just regular Eldians like them. Eldians who didn't even know what the past was
>this led to the horrible realization that they had just killed hundreds of thousands of people
>this pushed Reiner, who had already been through a lot in his childhood, to develop severe PTSD and Depression over the guilt

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>>159416845

>>159417622
They had to know, they all graduated in the same time and she was #1 if I remember correctly, in top 5 for sure.

>>159417699
So when will we get the SnK version of the Nuremburg trials so traitors like Reiner and Bert get their comeuppance? The only thing they deserve is death.

>>159417086
No kindle version (yet?), I won't buy physical, fuck delivery rates.

>>159417761
Bert is already dead. He was eaten by Armin.

Reiner is still alive, but he is going to be eaten soon by another Eldian who will inherit the Armored Titan.

>>159417752
So what? She was #1 in the class but she's not on Levi's level. If she was she could have taken down Annie by herself.

>>159416845
Kestrel Rampage?

>>159417350
I thought it was resoundingly OK, some neat fights and good jokes but not much substance.
Ends weak too.

>>159417795
I'm not saying she's on Levi's level. I'm saying that knowing that Bort and Reiner should have been at least a little aware in her presence.

>>159417761
Don't worry, grim reminder soon.

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In small doses, Sarachi's serious moments can really stand out from most anime but when he makes everything serious for such a long time, it just feels like the average shounen shit.

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>>159417586
>His relationship with Last Order blows anything Mikoto has out of the water.
Poor bait. Their relationship is pretty generic and is not even done well. Mikoto's relationship with Misaki is more deep and entertaining to watch.
>I'd rather read Accel going from total edgelord to getting a wake up call
And by a wake up call you mean "still an angsty emo fuckboy who thinks that the world is shit"? Yeah, superb development here.
>Yeah, those sisters she doesn't give a flying fuck about, right?
I don't remember anything like that in Sisters arc. Maybe you should re-read it.
>NT3 when she was buying rings for a guy who isn't interested in her instead of addressing the new sister which should be a big fucking deal to her.
>he's still mad
Jesus, Accelcucks are pathetic. Literally nothing wrong with that, it's completely natural in that situation.

>>159416845
Yell from Akikan

oh wait, wrong pic

I know someone will bitch at me for watching trash, but fuck it.
The part in High School DxD where they "kill" Asia a second time as an excuse for Issei to hulk out again.
I mean the first time fine, but fucking twice.
It just made me audibly groan, even before I knew it was a fakeout.

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This

>>159417971
yea that and all that "spirit of Samurai" bullshit

>>159417994
Not him but
>>His relationship with Last Order blows anything Mikoto has out of the water.
>Poor bait. Their relationship is pretty generic and is not even done well. Mikoto's relationship with Misaki is more deep and entertaining to watch.
You didn't respond to anything that he said other than saying "your's is stupid but mine isn't"
>>I'd rather read Accel going from total edgelord to getting a wake up call
>And by a wake up call you mean "still an angsty emo fuckboy who thinks that the world is shit"? Yeah, superb development here.
Again you are just dismissing what happened in the series and how much he has calmed down and tries to live a normal life,by saying that this somehow is absolutely false.
>>Yeah, those sisters she doesn't give a flying fuck about, right?
>I don't remember anything like that in Sisters arc. Maybe you should re-read it.
He isn't talking about the Sisters arc, he is talking about NT3 where Misaka didn't care at all about Worst existance and only wanted to give Touma a ring the whole time. It isn't even Worst she didn't even care about Accel being there and didn't even want to talk to him.
>>NT3 when she was buying rings for a guy who isn't interested in her instead of addressing the new sister which should be a big fucking deal to her.
>he's still mad
>Jesus, Accelcucks are pathetic. Literally nothing wrong with that, it's completely natural in that situation.
First of all by giving names to your opponent you aren't making yourself more right also not trying to even talk to the murderer of your sisters and only caring about giving a ring to another boy isn't exactly normal, but as the rest of the series has shown Misaka isn't exactly sane so she is forgiven here.

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>>159418061
The biggest offender of "muh samurai spirit" was the fight between Kamui and Gin. There was no way Gintoki could have survived with the condition he was already in, but Sorachi just kept beating the readers over the head with "but ur supposed 2 be a good brother!!"

>>159417994
>Their relationship is pretty generic and is not even done well.
This is coming from a guy who thinks Mikoto's character relationships are good.
>I don't remember anything like that in Sisters arc.
Obviously referring to everything post Sisters, which you probably haven't even read based on the bullshit you're spouting.
>Mikoto's relationship with Misaki
>deep and entertaining
You can't make this shit up. Their "relationship" begins and ends with mutual lust for Touma's cock. Even after the Daihaseisai all of their interactions feel forced as fuck and worthless.

>>159417971
I dropped Gintama during season 5 for this exact reason

>>159418274
Well you can just skim through the remaing episodes since they will go back into comedy for now, so if you liked that you are lucky.
Also the final arc is 60 comedy 40 action.

>>159416920
>>159417307
Greatest love story ever told.

>>159418170
>he has calmed down and tries to live a normal life
Right after Sisters arc. This hasn't changed one bit since then.
>not trying to even talk to the murderer of your sisters
Why would she? The incident was resolved completely, there's not much to talk about.
>and only caring about giving a ring to another boy
That boy has pretty much insulted her strong feelings just a volume ago. Of course she would be obsessed with trying to make up for it somehow. I fail to see why people are so assblasted about it, especially since Mikoto always seemed to be a bit of a tryhard.

>>159418236
>Obviously referring to everything post Sisters
What does it have to to with Sisters itself? The arc was still better than pretty much everything Kamachi has ever written.
>Their "relationship" begins and ends with mutual lust for Touma's cock. Even after the Daihaseisai all of their interactions feel forced as fuck and worthless.
Now you're baiting again. Sad!

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Misacucks are still butthurt I see.

>>159418187
yea that was painful to read/watch

>>159418517
>Anything I don't like is bait
Keep crying those bitch tears then my friend.

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>>159418589
> >Anything I don't like is bait
Says a raildexfag.

>>159418631
>Says a raildexfag
You say this like it's an insult but you know you fall under this category too right?

>>159418517
>Right after Sisters arc. This hasn't changed one bit since then.
What?
Ok I'll explaing it easily then.
He went from someone that wanted people to leave him alone > someone who wanted to protect a little girl so he could redeem himself while remaining good > someone who had to dirty his hands to protect said girl > someone who wanted to be accepted by said girl and to no longer consider himself a vilian > to someone who would actively try to help out the people his had on his phone memory.
If you still can't udnerstand the steps then just look at his shirt and what it symbolizes.
>Why would she? The incident was resolved completely, there's not much to talk about.
So the fact that there is a brand new clone with completely different personality than the others isn't something serious. Ok right.
>That boy has pretty much insulted her strong feelings just a volume ago. Of course she would be obsessed with trying to make up for it somehow. I fail to see why people are so assblasted about it, especially since Mikoto always seemed to be a bit of a tryhard.
He was just drunk and called her Miko-chan what did he do to insult her feelings ?

>>159418627
I just wish they had kept butcher's original draft which was much more interesting.

>>159418711
Raildexfags are generally kamachidrones at least when it's not about Mikoto so I don't quite fall under this category.

>>159418742
>He was just drunk and called her Miko-chan what did he do to insult her feelings ?
When a fucking girl goes to the other end of the world to save your ass - something no one else ever tried to do - getting drunk as fuck, giving her sushi and walking away without saying a word of some appreciation is not something you're supposed to do, especially to someone you seem to consider a friend. Even if she were Vento-tier of ugly you could at least say something like "thanks" to her or talk about what happened. Adding to my point I would also like to say that a little bit later he gave literally zero fucks when she promised that he's not alone now and to share his burden while holding his hand. Since Mikoto has always been a somewhat obsessive girl, it was only natural for her to ignore another clone that wasn't in immediate danger when there was a chance she could make progress in her relationship with Touma.

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still mad

>>159419939
Nah Berserk went to shit when loli witch was introduced.

>>159417136

you bakas hes not talking about the plot it was the offhand nature of the remark "btw we are 100% responsible for your misery" and the poor direction of the panels

>>159419362
what the FUCK is wrong with their legs

>>159420113
how about the elbows?

>>159417307
God, japanese shit is so stupid

>>159418058
>ywn kiss a girl only for her to be disgusted and gargle mouthwash to neutralize your disgusting spit
Why even live?

>>159420285
Already posted
>>159417302

>>159416845
Nah, the lightblade was alright. Deus ex machina accompanied by a literal Deus ex machina with multitrack NTR drifting on the other hand was the real shit.

>>159417307
This sounds so fucking stupid but since it's Index I instantly believe it.

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>>159420703
Everything becomes normal in Index, no matter how insane it get.

>>159420833
inane*

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>>159416845
Haha, no, fujo, the show went to shit for you in this moment. As soon as you saw a strong independent 40D female that didn't weigh 300 kgs

>>159416920
I loved this moment. Best volume in the series.

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>>159416845
Fuck this show.

>>159422297
Not by a long shot.

>>159416845
>>159416877
Nawh it was shit the ment.it transitioned into cig

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>>159417793
>Spoilers in a non-SnK thread
I hope you and your entire family die of cancer, you pathetic cunt.

>>159425878
Bert gets eaten by Armin.
The beast titan is Eren's brother.
Everyone in the SL, including Erwin dies before reaching the basement. Only Levi and the 104 top ten survive.
Ymir comes from the outside walls, in a apartheid style city where Eldians, the people that can transform into titans, are controlled by a country of normal people, the Marleyans. They want to wipe out the ones in the walls, get the coordinate and dominate the rest of the world with domesticated Eldians like Reiner and Bert.
The walls were formed by the 145th King, from Historia's bloodline. She can control all the titans, but anyone from her bloodline gets possesed by the spirit of the 145th King, who just wanted eternal peace inside the walls, letting the titans roam free.
Titans power are starting to get useless with the developing of aircraft. There's a cart titan that can stay in titan form without losing its mind for months, and a ninth titan, that may or may not be able to fly.
The people of Marley were planning another attack on the walls to get the coordinate while they develop their aircraft and troops, since they had been relaying on the titans and behind on the times, but then Eren infiltrated there. It's unknown if he is planning an attack on Marley, to form an alliance with the titans there, kill them all or what.
Eren seems really depressed about his ideal of freedom probably never coming true, since the entire world is their enemy. This ideal itself may be the reason why Eren got the Attack Titan from his dad by eating him, since it seems that the power of the titans tend to fall on the hands of people with certain personalities, or they end up affected by the personalities of the titans, like Reiner, who is half Marleyan, half Eldian. This, along with the protective personality of the Armored Titan may be what caused the split on his mind.

>>159426066
Grisha came from outside the walls. His little sister was fed to the dogs of a taurino-minded Marleyan by his fault. He leaded a resistance movement, but they were all caught. The previous Attack Titan, the Owl, who was helping them on the shadows as an infiltrated Marley soldier, ends up saving just him and giving the Attack Titan. His wife there, of the Eldian royal bloodline, gets titanized as the one that ate Carla. That's why Eren gained temporarily control of the coordinate after punching them.
A riff has opened between Eren and Armin, and possibly Mikasa after reaching the ocean, as their view on how to deal with the situation on the outside wall may differ.
Mikasa is an Ackerman like Levi, a eugenetics/titan half races experimented on clan that gain superpowers after deciding to dedicate their lives to something.
There are hints at Eldians being originally Titans that actually shapeshifted into people, not the contrary, when coming into contact with the "origin of all life", "the devil", "God", or just an entity not known about. It may just be some normal scientist, even. Titans would be in this case actual humanity's natural enemy, and they governed over them after receiving this gift from the origin of all life until Marley somehow started brainwashing them.
Reiner is a fucking loser that just wanted to know who his nigger Marleyan dad was, a parallel to Eren, and he received his powers due to his loyalty, leaving Marcel's brother, the one who got eaten by Ymir, out of the mission. This guy was the one to eat Ymir later and regain the Jaw/Dancing Titan powers.
All Eldians are connected through "paths" that transcend space and time. The Owl received memories of Grisha saying to Eren that phrase of "if you want to save Mikasa, Armin and everyone else".
The Eldians that gain the power of the titans die in thirteen years if they don't turn mindless, just like Ymir, not this Ymir, the one that came into contact with the origin of all life

>>159426142
The Leiber family has the ninth titan of the nine shifters, the Warhammer Titan. When the Coordinate went to live on eternal peace in the walls, this one, the next on the power line of the Titan hierarchy, decided to ally with Marley, instigating war, profiting from it and controlling the Marley from the shadows. Such is his power that he provoked all the other shifters going to Marley side, except the Attacking/Advancing Titan, what with prioritizing freedom above all, he obviously wasn't going to accept this family. It's possible that the Warhammer Titan has a strong will like the Coordinate, which makes every shifter from the Leiber family keep this notion of corrupt power forcing the current order to subjugate all the world outside of the walls. They are about to launch an offensive on the walls to get the Coordinate and wipe out the Reiss/Fritz. Eren is infiltrating on Liberio, the Marley ghetto for Eldians and has a hidden agenda, like Zeke and Reiner

>>159416845
Nah, that was a downhill spike. It went from like an 8/10 to a 6/10, with a chance of being redeemed.
The actual moment it went to complete shit is the whole "this is our daughter" asspull. This show really snatched defeat from the jaws of victory with its final few episodes.

>>159417136
>all the retards going "hurr I had to read several times to make sure i was reading right"

THAT'S THE INTENDED EFFECT YOU FUCKING IDIOTS

It was meant to be a reveal so absurdly upfront that it would leave you confused and make you think you read it/heard it wrong, which is why it was handled this way and thus why it works so well.

I mean you basically have the same fucking reaction as Eren and you still think this wasn't well made? Come on.

>>159426066
>>159426142
>>159426332
Wow, what a clusterfuck. I'm glad I got out when I did.

>>159417136
I'm shocked how many people are defending this. It was fucking stupid and anti-climatic.

>>159426644
That's the point you fucking pleb

>>159426631
When Ymir was confirmed dead, right?
>>159426353
>The actual moment it went to complete shit is the whole "this is our daughter"
How do fujo tears rolling in fat cheeks taste?

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>>159426728
>it was shit on purpose

>>159426780
That's what your mom said when she tried to abort you by giving birth on top of a toilet

>>159426780
>Chijoposter
Fuck off, retard

>>159420002
>poor direction of the panels

Even if you think the effect was poor, the paneling was great because it effectively used the panels to convey the intended emotional effect (anticlimax, disbelief, and absurdity).

>>159419997
She was added in 2002

>>159426777
>How do fujo tears rolling in fat cheeks taste?
Fujos aren't the only ones who dislike bad writing and poorly-foreshadowed plot twists three minutes from the end of the series.

>>159426777
You don't even need to be a fujo to get baffled and confused by that revelation. Fujo's were btfo in the kiss scene an episode earlier.

>>159416845
I defended the writing up and until episode 12 but that was a straight up comedy. I'm not sure if I was supposed to take it seriously.

>>159426631
The Warhammer Titan one is fanfiction, and stuff like the Eldian origins and timetravel connections are speculation.

>the whole point of the plan was to "surprise" zaShunina so that both parties are satisifed
>they just end up vaporizing him anyway
I don't get it.

>>159427112
If it's any consolation, the novel is apparently a mindscrew, but it does confirm zaShunina is still alive after episode 12.
In a... manner of speaking.

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It's literally a straight downhill slope at this point

>>159427206

Sounds like fridge horror. What's wrong with him?

>>159417337
>not Gon's transformation
>not the deus ex generator

>>159427243
This
Pain arc would have been perfect if not for this

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I was actually liking the arc up until this point. Like there was some sense of dramatic tension still there. But this is the point where I realized "nope, this is all bullshit"

After this there's nothing left in the story to like. Could have been redeemed if Aizen's defeat was the end of it but nope. Just had to throw two more stupid arcs in there.

>>159427419
I remember crying while reading the manga.

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>>159427419
It's really sad because usually when shows go to shit, it's the point when things get so bad they don't recover. But this was actually the peak of the series. It's all downhill from there

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I don't know how many people still remember Macross Delta but this. This wasn't actually where the show goes to shit, there's a few good episodes after this, it's just that it's the catalyst of the show eventually going to shit

>>159427601
I think that was the best part of the series.

>>159427206
There are novel spoilers on /a/? Any archive link?

>>159427673
Which is why I said "this isn't where the show goes to shit"

>>159427680
>>159427313
There's more details in the /cm/ thread
>>/cm/3111992
The gist is that the "zaShunina" in the anime might only have been an aspect of the entire entity.

>>159417081
Agree, the whole series after that fight went to absurd levels. Before it, it was acceptable methinks.

>>159416845
This show is depressing. So much promise straight down the toilet. Whoever wrote the story must have had a stroke half way through

>>159427419
Death Note is a really special case, it's probably the only normalfag-tier anime where everyone unanimuously recognize that the second half is a huge stepdown from the first.

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The very first second of this movie.

>>159417081
Is that a video game?

>>159427820
The cake scene is kino though.

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This moment was the death of Sakura and the beginning of a long descent into some real fucking bullshit.

Before this point, Naruto & Sasuke had stopped worrying about Sasuke for the most part.

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>>159427765
Seems interesting.

>>159427765
>The gist is that the "zaShunina" in the anime might only have been an aspect of the entire entity.
>"What you perceive as your whole self is merely a cross-section of a greater individual."

>>159417307
This basically sums it up perfectly. None of these Othinusfags has yet to explain what exactly it is they like about her besides the whole shipping wars going on.

>>159428017
I hope we get some translations. It sounds very interesting from a technical standpoint, even if the plot ends up garbage.

>>159428317
A pile of dog shit is still a pile of dog shit even if you cover it in sprinkles.

>>159420113
Morikawa has been drawing for over 1000 chapters and still doesn't understand human anatomy

>>159417136
retard

>>159427181
>and Shindo dies, so neither parties are happy
Good job, Kado.

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>>159427181
>>159430993
And it turns out zaShunina survived getting vaporized, so Shindo's death ended up completely pointless.

>>159427765
Should have been obvious now that you mention it desu

>>159431126
Forgetting this anime exists is, unfortunately, the right answer.

>>159431193
They did refer to him as "agent-like" in the promotional materials. It wouldn't make sense that he would be so integrated to an artificial construct body that was more or less a remote interface that destroying it would actually damage the greater being.
His body was, in essence, a doll that the real Yaha-kui zaShunina controlled.
>"I want to meet humanity. Not in these cramped lower dimensions, but in the real world."

>>159430993
Negotiation is the art of BTFOing both parties, after all.

>>159428017
>there's a page (or several pages) that are so structurally bizarre that the book couldn't be turned into an e-book
Can't wait for the 3D-printed pop-up book!

>>159417489
You didn't like him as a character, or you didn't like him leaving the group?

>>159427674
This.

I can't believe they dragged this stupid subplot all the way to near the end of S2.

>>159427419
I don't think a series' final episode can count as when it "went to shit", especially for Death Note when it ended so awesomely like that.

That said, the series really wrapped up nicely in just 25 episodes. Great anime.

>>159427243
>>159427347
I'd say it happens a bit earlier with the end of the Sasuke/Itachi fight and the beginning of the Pain arc. That's where the abilities in the show really jump the shark, and the story gets dragged behind them.

>>159434260
KEK

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>>159417136
Was that before or after le monkee trabble showed up? Because I dropped that pile of garbage once the talking monkey titan showed up.

>>159416845
Countless shounen that had some kind of vaguely unique premise that end up falling into battle manga territory because a group of generic evil yet quirky badguys who love fighting with some sort of vauge sinister plan suddenly appear out of nowhere.

I'm not even going to bother listing any, everyone's read a series or 50 that's pulled this bullshit.

>>159434669
True, Naruto was never good.

>>159434723
My problems with it is that it has cool stuff in it. As a whole though, it's all trash.

>>159434723
>>159434827
Nah naruto gave a good lore and some story but everything got dragged down because of sasuke the fucker.
Little emo whiny bitch, that ruined the whole manga. Until his 'I am now evil' everything was great

>>159435121
Honestly, it's more Naruto's fault than Sasuke's.

>I'm going to leave the village because I need more power
>NO SASUKE DON'T DO THAT
>I don't care if you want me to do it or not
>BUT WE'RE FRIENDS
>No, we're not
>YES WE ARE, I CAN FEEL A STRONG BOND BETWEEN US
>Dude wtf
>I'M GONNA DRAG YOU BACK TO THE VILLAGE IN THE NAME OF OUR FRIENDSHIP

>>159426644
Would you rather have the chapter end on a double spread cliffhanger OMG SO SHOCKING TUNE IN NEXT MONTH TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS

>>159419997
I would say before that when Isidro was introduced AND tagged along.
or when Farnese decided to just follow Guts around

>>159435342
The most part why naruto tried to get him back was because sasuke got to orochimarus site.

Let's just revisit what sasuke did(there may be some holes because I skipped half of shippudden until naruto vs pain)
Now let's look:
>itachi kills uchia family
>sasuke wants revenge and tries to constantly become stronger
Fine
>team7
>sasuke protects naruto and realizes that he is his friend
>sasuke gets the curse
>is suddenly in depression because weak naruto is stronger than him and looses to itachu
fine
Now here is the shit part
>becomes allies with orochimaru to get stronger, instead of just becoming a spy for konoha and using him
>hurr durr what friends? What naruto? Eventhough I saved his life why should I be bothered by him anymore
>oh man finally I killed itachi
>what? Itachi killed the clan to save the whole village? But that could mean it's my fault for just killing him...no..it's the fault of the village because it exists
>let's kill konoha
>pain ft madara comes in
>oh wait killing the village can wait, let me first just help my old friends in this war
>oh yeah naruto, now I want to become hokago too ;)
>itachi comes and instead of telling sasuke how much of an idiot he is, no bro I will always love you
>yes we finally defeat the real goddess and we learned that hate/power wasn't the true way of the ninja
>naruto forget everything until now, I am now killing the hokages
>ok let's fight..what I lost? You are right now I am good

Fuck this guy. He was a whiny emo bitch who couldn't admit that he was wrong

>>159426644
I'm shocked that some people are so negative about this. The entire thing was terrific. Reiner and Bertholdt dropped it on Eren at that moment, anti-climactically, because it was their best chance to do it.

>Ymir unconscious
>Most of the SL injured or exhausted
>No Levi
>Far away from any other human support

It's not like they knew where the coordinate was anyway. And obviously going back to Marley, letting two warrior candidates eat Ymir and Eren, then returning gives them a much better chance of success. Also remember that Reiner has been driven mad by the trauma of murdering thousands of people when he was 12, only to discover they were actually decent people and not devils like Marley told him. That kind of thing might make anyone behave erratically, which is why he was acting so weird even while making a perfectly reasonable decision.

>>159435342
Part 1 needed a lot more genin missions with Team 7 to make me believe they had a strong bond. You've got Land of Waves which is a good start and then it's straight into the chuunin exams where they barely interact except for the Forest of death. After that is tournament-training-tournament-village gets attacked-training-I NEED MORE POWER. I can't believe people seriously argue that Kishi didn't drop the ball with this bonds thing.

>>159426979
so 3 chapters ago?

>>159419939
>>159419997
Nah, Berserk went to shit when it became an interminable monster-of-the-week series with a meandering plot made up of developments that could never rival the Eclipse (or even rival the Band of the Hawk's ascent). Berserk blew its load 1/5th of the way into the (ongoing) story, and it seems like it might never recover.

>>159434669
yeah if you believe it

>>159419362
>reading to chapter 846
just watch the anime and stop there nigga

>>159420285
I don't read HxH, but I see this referenced a lot. What's the gag here?

>>159436758
He came back to life because he said those words.

>>159426332
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>>159426066
haha, o wow

Is all this true? If so, it sounds like the series really went off the rails.

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>>159416845
gotchu

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The actual moment in SnK where the series went to shit. The moment shifters became a thing.

>>159427243
It REALLY went to shit once Kyuubi got retconned to be just a bit tsundere instead of being an evil force of nature type villain and Naruto got that retarded super-saiyan chakra form.

>>159437100
Wow, 300 kgs in a single post. You know that The Walking Dead exists for retards who want a generic zombie show, right?

>>159437191
The fuck are you on about? Introducing shifters and making the plot about nazis and jews fucked up the whole story.

>>159417350
That whole series was shit.
The only Good thing was make and even she couldn't keep me watching. I Dropped off before they even got the dumb pink marching band girl.

>>159436909
It was set up pretty early on. The second you saw Eren turn into a titan it was obvious that the Colossal and Armored titans were also humans, meaning that a human civilization hostile to the people behind the walls existed out there and was probably controlling the titans. Also the tactics used by the military give you the impression that they don't actually want to win the war (why would you send your best fighters to be police officers and your worst to be soldiers?), so the "anti-war king" is also foreshadowed. It just wasn't explicitly stated until way later.

The stuff about Zeke and royal bloodlines is a little wonky though.

>>159417489
I liked that he named his charmander zippo.

>>159437271
If you don't introduce shifters the story can't really go anywhere. It's impossible for the humans to beat the titans on their own, there are just too many of them. You would need an army of Levis.

>>159437100
Even the one-shot Isayama did years before the manga started featured shifters. They were meant to be the focus from the very beginning. I still wish it they weren't and Eren remained a posthumous character, and that Armin and Mikasa were the real mc's, but it was never meant to be. The audience, at least a portion of it, got fucked by their own expectations
>>159437191
Does the walking dead have 3dmg and Hiroyuki Sawano, because that was the pull for most people.

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>>159416845
Fucking shame

>>159427419
>kill him off and replace him with two unheard of people
For what purpose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05sJHM0cVW8
L was my boy, I've never met another character I felt so much sympathy for with such little time spent on backstory. I still wish the live action ending was the actual ending.

>>159437629
Is this guy from hxh?

>>159417023
White Album 2 was trash

>>159437734
Judge from Yakitate Japan

>>159416845
>man cucked to death

One Piece
timeskip

>>159437878
>novel confirmed he didn't die when he was killed
Turns out he's way more eldritch than we anticipated.

>>159417971
Gintama's anime would be "greatest of all time"-tier if it wasn't for the CONSTANT trash-tier shonenshit that's forced into it

only shonenshit arc I liked was Katsura's kidnapping

>>159437899
nice moment

>>159437629
To this day I've re-read this like 4 times and I've never bothered to read past the Monaco Cup arc

>>159437899
Already went to shit at Thriller Bark

>>159435961
under rated post.

>>159441140
Also acceptable. I just hate the art and design changes more than anything.

>ctrl+f
>no titanium ribs
Comd the fuck on

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When this piece of shit was introduced.

>>159418748
What original draft?

>>159417286
Actual answer is the Whitebeard war and its build up

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>>159436758
He talked to his superpower in an inner monolog after seeing his near death

>>159431126
But Shindo's still with us.

>>159442909
Fuck off.

>>159417971
The teacher being the bad guy was retarded.
Serious arc after serious arc is retarded.

Gintama is my favourite Anime and I liked the serious arcs but the mix of comedy arcs, serious arcs, serious one episodes and comedy episodes is what I loved about Gitama.

>Here is a serious arc about Gintoki past
>Here is a one off comedy episode
>Here is another one off comedy episode
>Here is a one of serious episode
>Here is a comedy arc

Perfect formula, the series never got boring until the multiple serious arcs in a row as of recent.

>>159427419
Series should have ended there.
The whole show was about Light and L fighting and they were the only interesting charaters.
The Manga/Anime should have ended with one of them losing, I don't care which one but it should have never continued on.

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>>159416920
>not the end of vol 10

Everything was fine and all, but she surviving the end of vol 10 was just utter bullshit.

Would have been a 10 out of 10.

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It should have stayed a cheesy Mafia drama, it was actually pretty cool until this faggot showed up.
The whole necrolization was fucking stupid and ruined the series.

I have also never hated a character design more than Blood War.

>>159416877
What did his VA do?

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YER KEEDING

>>159443849
Sometimes i really hate Kamachi's gutless decisions not to killoff characters.

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It had been mediocre before this point but this is where it just went to shit completely.

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This scene broke any sense of realism and made me lose any amount of interest. At least everything beforehand was at least passable. The shit that was done after this scene ruined the semblance of tone and theme the story has propped up.

>>159444466
This whole sequence is just a bunch of asspulls
>Cell can regenerate through a nucleus in his head even though he got his head blown off before and regenerated
>Cell regenerates in his perfect form without #18
>Cell gets a zenkai boost even though zenkais have been irrelevant since the Freeza arc
>said zenkai boost is enough to place him at the same level as SS2 Gohan conveniently enough
>Cell gets Instant Transmission somehow

>>159417971
Jump probably has a quota for that Friendship Effort Victory shit so he shoves it all in at the last second

>>159427328
out of all the asspulls in hxh you could choose
you choose one that isn't even an asspull

>>159445542
I personally liked this and the moment after where he gets reality checked. Neetfag needed a whoopin.

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>>159417023
>>159417073
>>159437777

>>159417136
That was good. unorthodox and interesting, kingdom stuff is the fail

>>159419997
Schierke is one of the best parts of the manga. Although, I like magic, high fantasy, and Griffith more than Guts or Casca.

>>159445542
That was good, the bad was that he learned nothing from it (did not even start training for revenge) until much later so we were stuck with the obvious steps

Just skimming this thread and seeing people mad at SnK for being Flesh-mecha/Gundam-opera and not being a survival gore series.

Like really? Eren turns into a fucking titan like right out the fucking gate.

Humans trying to survive a hellish warscape?

The entire military setting?

What the fuck did you expect?

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has anything stupider happened in the history of anime

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I would have preferred a kiss.

>>159444408
Frenda is still dead. At least for now.

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>>159418627
It was shit from the very first episode

>>159446159
TADA

>>159417403
He could of gone back
He did everything he wanted
But no instead we get him getting edgier

>>159445754
Actually thinking about it
Look at all the shit he needed to take just to start training and taking shit more serious

>>159446375
All the show needed was to have the rest of the cast do things to accomplish a victory. Slade was really shit in S2 and having one of the main characters be absent left the rest of cast lifeless, but it's the protagonist that completely prevents me from recommending the show.

>>159417726
This is one of the best series.

>>159446375
At least we got some music out of it.

>>159417726
Gr8 b8

>>159444596
are they trying to make the unconscious thief rape the dude in bandages

>>159437899
>>159441140
>>159441495
Agreed.

>>159427948

>Naruto & Sasuke had stopped worrying about Sasuke for the most part.

Mind running that by us again, friend?

>>159417002
>world's dullest opinion

>>159447730
I never finished this, what's the story?

>>159424930
>he didn't see it coming from a mile away
Holy fuck are you braindead, by like the 3rd episode you sohuld've known it was him already

>>159418058
I disagree

>>159436758
those words allowed him to literally asspull himself back to life.

>>159448661
Well no shit. I'm talking about everything that happened after.

>>159417023
but it was already been a pile of garbage since episode 1

>>159435804
>and using him
he actually was using him.

>>159446159
BANRI

>>159445713
Literally the only 2 great episodes of the series happen directly after that.

>>159444224
God I just took off my earphones whenever they spoke that earrape of Engrish.

>>159448591
There was a whole new arc after fake piggy afaik. Also the pig's foot nickname was given to the guy by the maid girl, not the tsundere.

>>159417971
Sadly he have to end Gintama somehow and the history of Gintoki is the only way to do so.

>>159438488
That's not Nui's introduction

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>>159416845

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>You know the best episode we have that fleshes out our main character and expands the dynamic between the two leads?
>Let's fucking retcon it

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>

I'm still mad as fuck, KyoAni

You fucked up big time, and there's no turning back. It's now forever in history of failures along with Phantom Menace and bagpipes

Seven Deadly Sins the moment powerlevels were introduced

>>159427243
The Pain arc was fucking shit. I just don't know how one, single fight that includes the MC and main arc villain is able to save it from mediocrity. Oh yeah and one of the worst endings of an arc as well.

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>>159452243

>>159441783
NIGGA YOU TAKE THAT BACK
YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW

>>159417350
The fanservice and OST was truly superb. Then as the series went from a comedy to a serious drama, nothing could save it from how shit it was, especially the animation since even that became abysmal.

>>159452285
I know this picture gets memed on a lot of the shitty animation but it really does sum up Naruto as a whole
A bunch of whiny people with amazing power throwing hissy fits at each other to see who has the saddest past

>>159417307
>The world is basically destroyed and the MC is tortured by the girl there for nearly an eternity
>I'm talking millions and billions of years
This is the worst writing I've seen yet. There's not even a purpose for such an atrocity.

>>159452079
Nah when Arima gave Shachi the static shock was when it lost all credibility.

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>>159435342
Kishimoto's mistake was sending kids to fight 6 super powered monsters with edgy transformations on their own. I appreciate Kishimoto for making Tsunade's character the pure embodiment of female uselessness.

>>159453104
I like the sibling rivalry, and also Marie is doomed to failure anyway.

>>159417136
This was fucking hilarious, I loved it

>>159452863
You mean when they stepped foot into Synchro

>>159417307
Sasuga Touman

>>159417337
O

>>159443717
This, they pussied out so hard about making the "bad guy" win

What chapter was Azami introduced into Shogukegi no Soma? He completely ruined that manga and Erina's character, she used to be a bitch and now that's all excused because it was all daddy's fault, I haven't read a chapter since that asshole showed up.

Then there's there everything that ever happened on Tenjou Island in Fairy Tail, The chapter Liz's bullshit powers were introduced in Nanatsu no Taizai and the Sheba arc in Magi.

>>159419939
Berserk went to shit when Griffith was reincarnated

>>159444670
>Zenkais
>irrelevant

>>159424930
Went to shit at the end of episode 1

>>159445338
THIS
Fuck, every episode after mad max was just exponentially worse

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It wan't too good before this, but everything after this is absolute trash. All the fights are completely dull and stupid, all new characters are worse than every single character before them, the writing hits rock bottom. And Medaka's new look is fucking retarded.

Sensui's multiple personalities

The rest of the arc was downhill from there, aside from Yusuke's death.

>>159452243

People overlook it due to that boss as fuck OP going down. If you didn't know that Kishi was going to puss out and revive (almost) everyone, you would be forgiven for thinking that things were at stake.

I don't have it on my PC, but my nomination is for Innocent Venus.

>kinda promising show with mechas
>two bros protecting a loli
>well, okay, I can see the fujos gushing over thi--
>the nondescript guy pulls a betrayal so neat, you don't see it coming because there was absolutely nothing to hint at it
>despite pulling off the best anime betrayal of all time, the anime goes right to shit from that point on

>>159455764
When will /a/ go on another ride together like this?

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>>159456047
mayonegg could have been the same kind of ride, but the show was just too boring.

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>>159452079
Nah it's pic related

>>159455529
this is probably the only one in this thread that is actually true.

>>159455187
K-ON went to shit when Season 2 started.

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>>159420516
>she was only pretending to be disgusted
>she was actually depressed because you didn't even hold her and went full dead fish when she kissed you
>you don't learn this until you accidentally kill everyone and unleash the apocalypse

>>159457622
that's fucking stupid.

>>159426332
>>159426142
>>159426066
Holy fuck, I'm glad I never got into this series.

>>159420050
lies

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>>159435961
Ha! Jokes on you, they've been off the boat for more than 3 chapters now!

>>159427419

The series went to shit the second they teamed up and lived in a giant tower. Most people should just tap out there.

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>>159436869
>>159449382
So, he bounced back?

>>159436959
This wasn't when it went to shit. It went to shit an episode or two later when Cal showed up only evil and somehow ten years older.

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>>159416845
NO ONE FUCKING CARES ABOUT YOUR FUCKING MOVIE. GET BACK TO THE HEALING

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>>159451908
I skipped 5 of them when showing the series to a friend. He still wanted to strangle me.

Those two unforgivable words.

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>>159416845
After this panel became clear, that series was simply axed.

>>159417136
I think this reveal is completely unexpected, like, everyone was just being serious and you suddenly need to process the information of antagonists revealing himself just like that

To be honest my brain didn't pick it up until Mikasa slashed Reiner, and had to reread the whole thing again

>>159458866
I could respect it as almost some sort of expressionist artform in structure - but holy shit was an absolute waste of a budget. I would have dropped that show so hard if I were someone who watched anime week to week back when that was first airing. I think I might have been able to make it 4 weeks in.

I respect the very unique situation - but my god it deserves the hate it gets. The cool thing though is that I think it represents what it's trying to convey better than any other piece of media, being trapped like the characters. It's bad anime but a fantastic artistic expression of being trapped.

>>159454644
MY

>>159459764
RUBBER

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>>159417307
I am now glad there will never be a Season 3 or beyond.

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>>159436476
There was an interview between Miura and some famous editor and the dude flat-out told him he would have NEVER allow him to do Eclipse.

the entirety of Last order

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>>159416845

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will Fire Punch ever go to shit?

>>159459843
NEN

when mello and near were introduced

>>159455741
>People overlook it due to that boss as fuck OP going down
Anime ruined the whole thing and the fight was one-sided in Nardo's favor.

>If you didn't know that Kishi was going to puss out and revive (almost) everyone, you would be forgiven for thinking that things were at stake
Kakashi served no purpose later on so fuck that. Also Jiraiya was the only character who didn't come back for obvious reasons but anyone that hated the ending would because there was no purpose in killing everyone if they'd be resurrected with no consequences.

>>159460246
It didn't help that the anime had them get introduced after showing Light spend years in college and joining the police force in addition to the series being bad at aging its characters.

Made them seem like they went from 0 to Light is Kira in a month or two.

>>159457622
And there are people who defend Asuka unironically.

>>159456047
Code Geass R3
FLCL 2

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>>159460519
Asuka... had a hard life

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So was this an anime original adaption after episode 3 or was the manga just this retarded? If only Busou Shoujo had the animators the series deserved instead of the other shit, it would of been AOTS easily.

>>159417307
That sounds fucking stupid. Like people experience emotional and physical pain in manga all the time for say only a day at most which leads to developments but this is monopoly dollar "AND HE WAS TORTURED FOR A GAJILLION ZILLION YEARS" tier

>>159431126
This was pointed out by another anon but it was fucking stupid how their plan A was using those freakanomics gloves to counter zaShu and their plan B was getting his friend to raise their ansiotropic child in the cuckzone for 14 years.
Like assuming their first plan worked then they just did all that shit in the other for no reason. Not to mention they could've just used their daughter from the start to negotiate from an equal position of power with the alien manchild