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AOTS 2017

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So I assume everyone has concluded that Kobayashi-san Chi no Maid Dragon is the inevitable AOTS.
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I enjoyed Demi-chan more than Maid Dragon, so no.
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>>159298078
>flop dragon
>aots

It's shit.
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>>159298120
One scene in the first episode of an A-1 Pictures show is not enough to make an anime good
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I really liked Maid Dragon, it's definitively the comfiest anime I've ever seen. I've rewatched it probably like 20 times
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>>159298078
Dragon Maid was AOTS and is the favorite for AOTY.
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>>159298656
>Hibike Euphonium on your list
Dropped
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>>159298656
wow what the fuck is this. is /a/ filled with SoL faggots?
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Why didn't this flop? It's not fair that KyoAni keeps winning.
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>>159298120
This
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>>159298656
>look mom I posted it again!
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>>159298078
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Why didn't you watch the most underrated show of the season?
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>>159298078
COOL is a genius
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>>159298078
Kemono Friends is AOTY and was AOTS.
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>>159298656
Replace Eromanga-sensei with FAG
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>>159298656
>official
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>>159298859
>>159298906
>CGIshit
Fuck off please
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>>159298828
because it was boring
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>>159298656
only thing incorrect is oreimo 2.0 over Frame Arms Girl
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>>159299211
>because it did not have enough action or lolis to fap to
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>>159298078
goot Baithread anon, these are the ones i like.

anyways, LWA was AOTS for for the 2 Seasons it was in.
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>>159298762
It was left in Konosuba and Kemono Friends' dust.
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>>159299165
Why so triggered? Is it because you know it is true?
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>>159298656
the fact that, even though a joke, Koufuku Graffiti is considered an "AOTS" pisses me off to no end. i won't even deny that most of these series are at least okay, but that one is fucking terrible.
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>>159298828
Thank God someone here has not garbage taste
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>>159299165
>Gets triggered

You're just mad because it got low budget shitty animation and still managed to be best over whatever shit you liked
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>>159298828
If anything, that'd be Onihei.
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>>159298078
>show about cute girls doing cute things
>best at anything
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>>159299429
Back to your general faggot
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>>159298753
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Kemono friend was AOTS like ir or not. It blew Maid Dragon and Tanya out of the water.

Plus your list is shit
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Dragon-wha? Everybody's already forgotten about that show. The only thing I liked about it was Tohru's VA.

Pic related is best MC this year by a mile, and so brings about the best show as well.
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>>159299661
At least i got a home thread to go back to. Your show's forgotten around here after it aired.
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>>159298078
Yes, absolutely.
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>>159298828
This and Tsuki ga Kirei have been my AOTS. I liked Tsuki better though.
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hi
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CGI anime should only be ignored or mocked for the good of the anime industry.
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>>159300067
nips don't give a shit what we watch. FAG is good regardless of CGI
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Why is Kemono Friends such a dirty word?

Why are people so reluctant to acknowledge its success and general acclaim?
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>>159300104
despite the CGI I should say
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>>159300121
backlash of something popular+CGI
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>>159300104
>nips don't give a shit what we watch
Is that why Trigger posted here and put 4chan in LWA? Is that why Watamote's Western support was largely responsible for it getting an anime? We should not take chances and risk sending the message to Japan that CGI is ever a good idea for anime.
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>>159298656
>All of them are SoL
Nice fucking list /a/
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>>159300121
Because it's a shitty meme anime with a terrible overdone ending
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>>159300121
Below JK Meshi-tier CGI.
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>>159300240
>Pandora
>SoL
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>>159300261
and something like Dragon Maid isn't a meme anime?
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>>159300366
There's no need to be upset.
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>>159300366
>It took the two worst things of anime, SOL
>>159299817
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>>159300366
Original content says otherwise, fag.
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>>159298656
>GJ-bore
>Koufuku Grashitty
>Pan-bore-a
>Flying Bitch
>New Gay
>Eromanga-shitsei

Someone fix this shit.
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>>159300445
Those nips produce your anime.
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>>159300445
Those aren't sales.
Also, always take time to consider the following.
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>>159300458
Found the faggot
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>>159300458
Holy shit I fucked up that copy/paste job badly.
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>>159298828
I finished it 3 days ago. I got lung cancer from it.
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>>159299999
My nigga both of those are my AOTS
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>>159298859
>kemono furryenz
>>>/trash/
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>>159300783
Cigarettes are for secret messages not smoking.
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Looks like folks just want some cute friend posting.
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>>159298078
>>159298656
Fuck off for tainting that otherwise alright chart with your INCREDIBLE FUCKING MEME SPOUTING RETARDEDNESS AND UNBELIEVABLE IGNORANCE ABOUT WHAT /A/ LIKED FOR SPRING SEASON
Yes I'm mad.
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>>159298120
Shit taste a shit
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>>159301217
I bet you would enjoy western cartoons more than anime too. Just think about it, normalfag cancer.
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>>159300466
kek'd
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>>159301217
If that's what you got from that post, I'm sorry, as it wasn't what I wanted to imply.

Regardless, feel free to continue blaming everything on Japan's and everyone else's shit taste when people like what you don't like, or don't like what you do.
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>>159301282
>yes I'm mad
well relax and stop it
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>>159298078
>anti-lolicon shit adaptation
>AOTS
Not even once.
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>>159298656
>nothing but moe shit
>all are full of grills
>fan service
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>>159301395
What are YOU watching anime for?
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>>159301379
go away LRD
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>>159301468
Go away, anti-lolicon supporter cancer.
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>>159301282
/a/ loved Eromanga Sensei, anon. You must have been living under a rock to not see that. It also gets a lot of bonus points for triggering normies.
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>>159299339
>Little Sales Academia
>Anything but shit
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>>159301379
>anti-lolicon
redpill me on this
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>>159300121
I dont want cgi anime
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>>159298078
>I assume
This was your first mistake.
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>>159301497
>>159301357

I meant Winter season.
That's how mad I am at Maid shit. Eromanga is alright.
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fuck off to >>>/v/ moefag
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>>159301517
please don't encourage him
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>>159301514
>anything that sells is great
shallow redittor spotted
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>>159301517
Just the usual KyoAni anti-lolicon crap.
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>>159301436
I watch non-moe anime
inb4 *tips fedora*
fuck off
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>>159301598
I know I shouldn't bite, but weren't the last two actually in the anime?
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>>159301586
Don't you normalfags have anything better to antagonize than individuals on /a/ that actually like lolicon stuff?
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>>159301625
what is "moe anime" to you?
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>>159301598
there’s nothing wrong with being anti-lolicon
lolicons deserve death
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>>159301053
>kemonomimi girls are furry
Whatever you say, retard.
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>>159301626
The one before last was not shown from that angle at all, and the last was thoroughly censored with magic skirt lengthening. Just like all her other butt cheek shots, whereas they clearly didn't have anything against showing butt cheeks of others, even putting them in the OP.
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LWA was Winter AOTS.
Bahamut for Spring.
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>>159301665
I think non-lolicons deserve death, to be completely honest here.
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>>159301653
main cast are girls (including "traps")
usually slice of life
Fan. Service. (It doesnt has to be lewd)
It feels like the target audience is for "young audience"
Am i kawaii? uguu
Fun things are fun
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>>159301640
for one thing, is "not into lolicon" the same as being a normalfag now?
for another, I do like lolicon.
it's just that these arguments are always completely insane and about details that no one should care about, which sometimes are completely imagined
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>>159301789
so what is so bad about all of those?

if fanservice isn't lewd, what is it then? if it is just something put in for the fans, isn't everything in all anime "fanservice"?
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>>159301551
If you think KF should have been Winter, I don't think you should be surprised or angry when /a/nons flatly reject CGI. CGI being successful is, without a doubt, not good for the industry and I can understand viewpoints like >>159300067 as being completely valid and perhaps necessary.
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lolis = normalfag repellent
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>>159301810
>about details that no one should care about
Just because you don't care about loli lewdness, doesn't mean nobody should.
And they clearly exist, and shit studios like KyoAni make sure to thoroughly destroy them, to make them normalfag friendly. And guess what? Take a look what kind of fans it brings fourth.
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Thoughts on the Funimation's dub, /a/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-HnjggczeQ
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>>159301880
okay m8 you got me
the truth is:
i h8 obvious fanservice
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>>159301887
>implying
normalfags literally have sex with underages all the time.
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>>159301970
Complete trash like any and all dubs that aren't trying to be ironic.
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>>159301882
I think you're seriously overestimating the effect we have on the anime industry. which might as well be none except for trigger, who isn't gonna do CGI anyways. which removes the "necessary" concern.
which means that you should judge anime with CGI on an individual basis, and yes, the vast majority are shit, but not all of them.
disreguarding CGI as a whole without looking at any other aspect of the show will let some shows you might enjoy through the cracks.
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>>159301882
Because why, exactly? CGI is definitely a minus factor for everyone, and yet if it's still clearly superior to other series, it deserves the top spot.
And nothing is "necessary", as we don't affect anime industry in the least.
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>>159301997
NANI?!
what a time to be alive
jk 3D will always be inferior to 2D
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>>159302030
>>159302044

>>159300223
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>>159298078
Kemono Friends is the unstoppable force of light that wrecks havoc on every vile thread.

So much in fact that /a/ did not make another stalker thread last week, which, by the way, is the same date that KF Vol 4 was released
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>>159302030
>>159302044
OK, let's say we're evaluating anime on several criteria, such as writing, characters, animation quality, etc., giving all the criteria 1-10 scores then saying the anime with the highest average score is the best. Kemono Friends, without a doubt, gets a 1 for animation quality. This makes it awfully difficult for one to believe it was actually the best overall anime of the season. That 1 is going to seriously fuck the mean of all the criteria scores.
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>>159302130
Kemono Friends isn't being tracked by Stalker.
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>>159300067
>>159300223
>>159302091
Stop judging a book by its cover.
The very creator of Shirobako saw KF and thanked Tatsuki for making them realize that, while they were all striving for better quality of animation, the story is still all that matters

We are just waiting for Miyazaki and Shinkai to comment about how KF succeeded on something they cannot
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>>159302284
Precisely.And it derails the stalker threads all the same. Just as how it should be
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>>159302309
It's a visual medium. Don't be surprised when people rightly criticize an example of a visual medium for looking like shit. Read a book if you simply want a good story and nothing else. People watch anime because they want stories that also look nice.
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>>159302091
maybe if japan completely hated CGI and we were the ones giving it a chance, some forward looking studio would see our reaction and decide to do CGI when they previously weren't.
but a CGI show is already hugely popular in japan. those few studios that look at the western market aren't going to pander to westerners specifically and change something that would or wouldn't be CGI to the opposite
>>159302231
now there is a good point, but I actually haven't even seen kemomo friends and was more arguing to not completely disregard any anime with CGI entirely based only on the CGI itself.
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>>159302355
I have never seen it derail a stalker thread, I usually see one or two people just spamming Kemono Friends images while everyone else shitposts about preorders and sales of other anime.
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>>159298126
But it didn't flop.
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>>159298828
It was OK but the ending was underwhelming.
Uchouten Kazoku S2 was better.
Acca's OP a best though.
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>>159302360
Motion picture is a combination of art, story, and music.

Failing in one area does not mean it cannot compensate for the other
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>>159302418
A kyonai show selling sub 5k is a rotund flop
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>>159302468
Why?
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>>159302412
>I have never seen it derail a stalker thread
lel ok
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>>159302450
see
>>159302231
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>>159302376
>I actually haven't even seen kemomo friends
The animation is literally worse than JK Meshi. They actually had to come up with an in-universe explanation for as to why tails clip through skirts.
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>>159298078
>Kobayashi-san as AotS
Weak bait OP but I respond anyway.
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>>159302497
Heh, that's just not giving a fuck.
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>>159302468
This is patently false, as KyoAni operates under below-average budgets, since they use small staffs and don't operate out of Tokyo. Maid Dragon comfortably profited at ~4k.
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>>159302231
>>159302496
Stop fooling yourself.

The effects of great visuals lasts only for 5 minutes. A good story is the backbone of every peice of entertainment, including music
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I vote LWA TV for most disappointing anime of the decade.
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>>159302619
do you disagree that KF would have been better with amazing visuals?
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>>159302645
Even with such a bombastic ending?
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I thought Kemono was ok, guessing Japan went crazy over it since it had a lot of cute girls, the story wasn't particularly extraordinary.
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>>159298656
I've just started watching Yuru Yuri and I'm really enjoying it. I've heard people say that it got shit when it was sold to TYO, is season 3 actually good then?
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>>159302656
Of course not but it is a lesson to everyone that beauty cannot compensate for the shallowness and emptiness that is hidden inside

It is a lesson that would sting for a long time
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>>159302619
>including music
What in the literal fuck?
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>>159302665
Overhyped endings full of style and no substance to compensate for all the boring garbage we say during the first 22 episodes is Trigger's specialty.
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>>159302800
Listen to a love song, rap song, and country song tell me what story it conveys
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>>159302779
>beauty cannot compensate for the shallowness and emptiness that is hidden inside

But you just said here >>159302450 that "Failing in one area does not mean it cannot compensate for the other", which is it?
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>repetitive joke meme dragon BTFO by a cgi anime
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHA
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>>159302747
People on /a/ always overreact to artstyle changes. See also: Minami-ke, which, Milhouse aside, was very consistent in tone and execution aside from the art style between every season.
Doga Kobo's YrYr was funnier and animated more skillfully, but TYO's YrYr was comfier and more heartwarming. They both have their strong points and are both enjoyable.
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>>159302836
What about classical music that literally have no vocals?
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>>159302836
You're completely dismissing instrumental music with that kind of argument and that's astonishingly ignorant.
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>>159298078
Kemono is AOTS
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>>159302747
>>159302888
I'm in the middle of a YrYr rewatch right now and am in the middle of S3 right now. I can sum it up as follows: S1 and S2 had me laughing more, but the OVA, TV specials and S3 have had me going "awww" more, as well as making me squee in delight more at Brat being cute.
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>>159302863
that is not a contradiction.
Great animation will easily be surpassed by better advancements in computer graphics. On the otherhand, great stories lasts for lifetime

>>159302938
>>159302920
Oh, you will be surprised.
Vivaldi's and Beethoven in particular has specially designed stories just for their 54 minute pieces.

A lot of them about people/animals trying to pass through challenges of the season or celebrating the arrival of spring
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>>159303030
>Vivaldi's and Beethoven in particular has specially designed stories just for their 54 minute pieces.
Sure, but the music alone has transcended the test of time without the need of that accompanied story.
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>>159303030
It is a contradiction and you just corrected yourself there. What you meant to say from the very beginning is that story can compensate for lack of good visuals but not the other way around.
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>>159303030
>Great animation will easily be surpassed by better advancements in computer graphics.
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>>159303071
Actually, the story came first. The music was the meduim they used to convey it

It's like looking at a painting of a mundane scene then realizing that it is a story of the painter's unrequited love
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>>159303142
Ok, but people know about the music not the story. Those particular pieces are the ones engraved in peoples' minds.
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>>159303107
Indeed. And it is the most important part

>>159303112
Don't act tough now. Makoto Shinkai and Avatar never had any impact on the film industry but stuff like Star Wars changed it forever.
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>>159303015
>and S3 have had me going "awww" more,
Are there really people like this?
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Kemono Friends is the most forgettable anime of all time and will have NO effect on the industry in the long-run, unlike Maid Dragon.
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>>159303211
Not until you you became a music connoseiur and delved deeper into the musical notes
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>>159298078
Kemono Friends with Frame Arms Girl behind.
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>>159303107
This is definitely the message it seems he's communicating:
>beauty cannot compensate for the shallowness and emptiness that is hidden inside
>Failing in one area does not mean it cannot compensate for the other (in reply to criticism of KF's visuals)
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>>159303245
Expect more badly done CGI by next year
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>>159303224
Some of the yuri in YrYr S3 is almost diabetes-inducing. Yes, I like cute things.
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This is an accurate representation of both Maidragon and Kemono friends. As you can see Maidragon started stronger but had a somewhat disappointing second half and horrible climax. Kemono on the other hand was consistent through and with an amazing climax. Both are definitely the better shows of winter 2017 but Kemono wins by a small margin.
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>>159303265
I find it really funny Violet Evergarden and Frame Arm Girls share similar concepts (mainly robots learning how to become human and learning emotions).
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>>159303378
Violet is not a robot, just an autist with ptsd, but yeah they're similar
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>>159303321
Me too. But YrYr S3 was not that.
If anything, it appeals to people liking more mature things with the new, older designs, rather than those who like cute things.
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>>159303426
Similar themes of autists learning emotions then.
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>>159303374
>KF ending was dissapointing
What the fuck
That ending was the single most hyped scene that season
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>>159303217
>Indeed. And it is the most important part
I'd argue against this for several reasons:
- Anime don't even need a central connecting plot to be enjoyable. There are a lot of enjoyable, episodic anime, and before you dismiss this as referring to only stuff like K-ON, remember that Cowboy Bebop was largely episodic, yet still very enjoyable while it was being episodic;
- Visuals are the defining feature of anime which separate it from other media. If anime do not even require a central plot to be enjoyable, and if visuals are anime's defining feature as a medium, then visuals are at least equally as important as story.
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>>159303471
Read again.
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>>159303450
>>159303378
Minus the part where FAG has cute girls and interactions, while Violetshit is old hag pandering pretentious crap.
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>>159303445
I disagree. While I still found the designs cute, it was the yuri situations themselves, how they played out, which I found adorable, not the visuals.
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>moefags stalker /v/tards still butthurt at chemofurenzu
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>>159303542
I don't know. Most of the prominent scenes were between Yui and Kyouko, and they are anything but my favorites, probably that's why I didn't care much.
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>>159303473
Short films are plot driven all the same. Even character-based literature is part of literature

And yes, it is pointless to obsess over visual mediums as it is nothing but paint gloss. Story is what give it shape
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>>159303572
>chemo
2% success rate. Mostly kills its patients. That's actually an accurate metaphor.
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>>159303609
That's a nice methapor.
Everyone, including the creators themselves thought that KF won't even break 2 digit sales despite being so heavily discounted
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>>159303592
Kyouko and Brat a best.
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>>159303609
You misread the labels, anon. It has a 2% failure rate. 98% experience their brain melting into happy meals which is very tanoshii. Not the Saki-tanoshii, but the new strand of tanoshii that's been recently isolated and discovered.
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>>159303667
I meant it more along the lines that it's not a good thing and CGI might kill anime.
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>>159303595
Visuals can serve the story as well, I don't get why you separate both of them and treat visuals as nothing more than eye candy.
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>>159303693
sugoii
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>>159298656
10/10 bait
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>>159303595
>visuals are the defining feature of anime as a medium, yet it is pointless to obsess over visuals
I think we're done here.
>>>/lit/
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>>159303787
>>>/v/
>>>/co/
>>>/pol/
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>>159303726
Because it is?
Good visuals lure the viewers in, a good story keeps them settled and allows them to leave satisfied.

>>159303787
>visuals are the defining feature of anime as a medium
Come on, you know it's not.
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>>159300466
It doesn't need fixing newfriend, /a/ AOTS is not going to change for the sake of people like you.
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>>159298656
This chart will never represent /a/ stupid namefag, im sick of this /r/anime tier meme.
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>>159303849
Why are you posting images if you hate visuals so much?
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Obviously Kemono friends is AOTS. Theres nothing to argue about.
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>>159303876
Aside from Maid Dragon, it kinda does.
I mean the non-normalfags, which are probably the minority anymore, so you're half right.
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Kemono is the anime of the decade.
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>>159303934
To gain your attention of course
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>>159303934
>Good visuals lure the viewers in
I think you're the kind of Friend that doesn't pay attention to stories or dialogue and doesn't read other anon's posts.
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>>159303962
That might be an exaggeration, but I can't say it's not a strong contender, that's for sure.
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>Visuals are just to lure people in

This is why anime is still shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvLQJReDhic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXgFcNUWqX0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnXEIlCrEgA
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>>159303849
Let's compare anime to other storytelling media. What makes anime different from books? The fact anime has moving images. What makes anime different from live-action TV or movies? The fact that anime is drawn or computer generated. What makes anime different from comics/manga? The fact that anime's images move.
Animated visuals are the defining feature of anime as a storytelling medium and no amount of mental gymnastics can get around this fact.
>>159303991
Oh, you're just trolling. Got it.
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>>159301970
>you cuckold
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>>159298656
Trying to read this gave me an aneurysm
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>>159304144
Again, anime is part of motion picture.
And motion picture is the combination of music, literature, and art.

Classical films like It's a Wonderful Life are highly irrelevant now in terms of visual mediums but its story still has its impact
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>>159304144
Kemono Friends proves that animation quality is not the sole deciding factor in whether a show will sell or be popular. It's such an outlier in its creation, its presentation, and its resulting popularity and commercial success that the show is causing people to begin questioning what animation itself contributes to the presentation of a story in televised media.
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>>159304425
Everyone knows that successful anime need cute girls not good animation.
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>>159304490
Cute girls also littered the bottom of the barrel x10, most of which are harem girls so that's that
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>>159304490
Cute girls with simple, standout personalities that viewers can expand upon themselves. Really, I think the thing that also caused Kemono Friends to explode in popularity is their similar attitude toward the franchise as ZUN toward Touhou. Fans are able to expand upon the setting and make their own games and other stuff out of passion for the show.
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>>159304425
>will sell or be popular
Irrelevant to discussion of quality.
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>>159304543
Those girls have a bit of personalities, the girls in Kemono don't thus there's a lot of leverage for people to shape them in any way they want to waifu them. There are like, what? 50+ friends? most of which are only there for 1 episode. This huge cast of girls with different designs and one specific quirk is essential in the success and popularity of such series. Idol shows use the same tools.
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>>159304616
That's an incredibly kind way of saying the characters were one-dimensional.
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>>159298120
baka
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>>159303787
>>159304681
>Those girls have a bit of personalities, the girls in Kemono don't
I want to pummel you with a brick right now
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>>159300121
It was fun, but not particularly good. It's just a kids show with waifus.
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>>159303787
/lit/ here
Oh god no. Those fags do not care about the story.
All their concerns are about word structure and prose.
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>>159304616
>1/10 visuals
>completely one-dimensional characters
>b-b-but AOTS
AOTS does not work that way.
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>>159304685
Two-dimensional but what was shown is enough for people to get a general idea of how that character would act in any sort of situation for fanon to be created.
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How on Earth could you people call KF characters 1 dimensional when even the fucking machine mascot became a hero beloved by all

What the fuck, /a/!
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>>159298849
He's a good person who added more monsterfus for MGQ paradox.
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Arguing with kemonofags is pointless, they're literally the bronies of our generation.
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>>159304880
If you can predict how a character will react to any given situation after watching a single episode then it's not a well-written character.
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>>159305029
Actually, no.
Bad or good, anyone can predic a character's next move. A well-written character is one judged by how he avoids cliche, tropes, and stereotypes
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>>159304935
They are one dimensional to be honest, doesn't mean that the show as a whole is bad, the characters compliment each other.
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>>159305029
Do you have autism?
Otherwise I don't believe you actually think unpredictable characters are well-written.
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>>159305138
>originality is the primary variable with regards to a well-written character
I strongly disagree. Cliched characters can still be complex, logically consistent and exhibit great character development whereas original characters can be overly simple, logically inconsistent and absent of character development.
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>>159305206
You're saying that when everyone showcased growth and did not follow the common cliches?

There was not even a single -dere archtype on the show
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>>159305029
If it takes a show a whole season to establish a character's motives, personality, and relationship, that's poor writing. Having a general understanding of who that character is and what they stand for should only take less than half an episode. Anything after that should be expanding upon that character, which is where all the twists and changes that people really latch onto them come in.
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>>159305292
That's not what cliche means
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>>159305298
Let it go. KF is not a deep story.
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>>159305213
As mentioned previously, many of KF's characters appear in only one episode. If you're able to predict how a character will react to any given situation after watching a single episode, that means the character is overly simple.
A well-written character will display unpredictable (at the moment) behavior as new facets of their character are conveyed by a story, but upon completion of the story and its associated character development that once unpredictable behavior will be logically consistent with the now completely developed character.
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>>159305298
>Everyone
Not everyone, there was growth but only for the 3 main characters, the rest of the cast was as one dimensional as it could get, nothing wrong with that, most of them were barely secondary characters that only appeared for an episode each.

>-dere archtype on the show
Kaban-chan is the typical everyman that eventually overcomes her fears.
Serval is a deredere
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>>159305301
>if it takes awhile it's bad
subhuman opinion
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>>159302309
>The story

You mean about the animals learning about friendship? MLP did that before and as pretty much the same fanbase but looks a little bit better.
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>>159305513
I mean there's a key difference between establishing a character and exploring a character.
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>>159298656
>no kemono friends
>no little witch academia
Opinion immediatley discarded.
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>>159305301
>If it takes a show a whole season to establish a character's motives, personality, and relationship, that's poor writing.
That's flat out wrong. You're arguing in black and white that simple characters are good and complex characters are bad, and that's flat out wrong. I am in no way advocating for relationships with 3DPD or anything like that in this statement, but real people don't have simple personalities that can be summed up in a single episode and that's exactly what makes human personalities interesting.
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Kumiko is literally the best characterized and developed character of the past decade to be honest.
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>>159298078
>everyone
No, we are not a hive-mind stop doing this shitty threads.
But I do agree with you.
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>>159305635
imagine being delusional enough to believe this
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>>159305635
>>159305468 and >>159305586 here. It's funny, because I was just thinking about how well-written Kumiko was while typing those posts.
>A well-written character will display unpredictable (at the moment) behavior as new facets of their character are conveyed by a story, but upon completion of the story and its associated character development that once unpredictable behavior will be logically consistent with the now completely developed character.
That's Kumiko.
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>>159302309
If looks are not important then why kemonofags only post fanart instead of screenshots? Because you know that the actual shoe looks ugly.
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>>159305660
If that's being delusional then I am delusional, it is what I think and I believe I'm right.
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>>159305710
watch more anime
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>>159305635
No
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>>159305023

>Kemono Friends is the MLP of Japan

It all makes sense now.
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did people forget about the real aots of spring?
maid dragon > kemono friends i still enjoyed both but kf didn't hit with me 100%
on the same level as maid dragon
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>>159305710
You're not wrong in saying she's a great character. She can't be confined to an archetype, her personality is complex and interesting and she exhibits mountains of character development.
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>>159305889
*aots of winter
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>>159305889
An anime could be written by a reincarnated Hemingway and it won't be /a/'s AOTS without a female majority cast. I'm not saying this is right or wrong, just saying.
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>>159301626
All those scenes were in the anime, they just didn't show anything lewd.
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>>159305757
I will, but I think over 2k shows under my belt are enough to have good opinions.
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>>159305660
He is exaggerating but I do agreed with him about Kumiko being a well written character.
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>>159305968
>Kumiko being a well written character.
How?

She is average at best in the first season.

In the second season she's basically a non-character.
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>>159301665
>>159301887
I don't hate loli but lolicons ate such obnoxious faggots especially the ones on /a/. They don't even talk about loli characters they just spam lewds pics and commets.
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>>159306112
That's just the anti-kyoani loli fag
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>Kemono Friends has 1/10 visuals
>its fans have openly admitted its characters are overly simplistic, meaning its characters are 5/10 at best
>people unironically argue that visuals are unimportant in a medium separated from other storytelling media solely by its visual style
>people unironically call KF AOTS
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>>159306407
Help me understand, KFbros. Legitimate criticism of KF's visuals and overly simplistic characters are frequently met with "muh story" without exposition as to what makes KF's story so great. Explain why KF's story was great and so much better than other anime stories.
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>>159300121
It's MLP 2.0: Electric Boogaloo
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Tsuki ga Kirei is definitely Spring AOTS.

>Fresh modern take on an old genre
>Top notch voice acting from new talent
>Realistic love story where parents exist
>Great visuals and music
>The most satisfying ending you could have hoped for
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>>159307526
Looks generic.
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>>159307660
It's definitely generic. I hope you're not implying that generic means bad.
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>>159307735
No, but if I've already seen it before why do it again? Besides romance shows are very boring anyway.
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>>159307852
I'm not going to talk you into watching it, anon.
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>>159306622
It has a focused direction in terms of character development and story direction and no segment of screentime is ever wasted.
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>>159307961
>It has a focused direction in terms of character development and story direction
Expound on this in detail with supporting evidence.
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>>159308066
Kaban slowly changing from a scaredy cat who can't do anything to a brave Friend willing to do everything she possibly can to save her best friend. You see small snippets throughout the course of the show of Kaban slowly learning how to climb, learning how to swim, and becoming more and more of a leader than a follower as Kaban, Serval and Boss go on their journey and help Friends in need along the way. Segments of the show aren't spent in unnecessary story dumps and information about the setting are instead relegated to visual props, allowing all focus to be spent on the problem at hand and the characters themselves. Best I can do is post webm related and urge you watch the anime to see for yourself the lack of wasted space in the direction of the plot.
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>>159306622
>>159308066
Anon, nobody can ever explain why Kemono Friends is good. Its goodness is a great mystery. It simply is, and moreover it's deceptively good because it's better than it appears to be, and even better than it makes itself out to be.

In particular the foreshadowing, the worldbuilding, the characters which were defined by their goals, conflicts, and relationships rather than by their quirks (which were nevertheless aspects of their characters). The formula which was faithfully adhered where most of the Friends had some problem that Kaban knew how to resolve for them, usually by helping them to form some kind of partnership.

Characters don't need to be Shakespeare levels of depth to be good. Most of them are a tasteful combination of quirky traits and actual motives.
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>>159308341
>>159308360
Not him but most of these descriptions you're giving are also things I've seen in other shows. I don't think the success of Kemono is just because the story and characters are competently made.
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>>159308691
It's definitely not popular just because of the story and characters. The show itself somehow realized a meta form of moe which caught Japan like a wildfire.
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>>159308341
>as Kaban, Serval and Boss go on their journey and help Friends in need along the way. Segments of the show aren't spent in unnecessary story dumps and information about the setting are instead relegated to visual props
Translation: it tells a a simple, childish story without an interesting backstory and its worldbuilding is limited to shitty visuals.
>>159308360
Translation: It's good because I like it.
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>>159298656
(((Official)))
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>>159298656
I don't understand why Maid Dragon is spring's AotS when Kemono Friends doesn't have any icky boys and has way more cuter, friendlier girls.
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Kemono Friends will be AOTY but reading you guy's reasons for it being good is making me cringe.
Though I couldn't explain it myself, probably.
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>>159298753
You must be new here. (though to be fair that's literally just one namefag calling himself the official /a/ council)

Anyway, Maidragon has been my favorite of the year so far, but I have very high hopes for Made in Abyss.
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>>159310563
There's also Kino's Journey next season too. Fall is looking pretty strong too. Then again, the fall is always the season when the heavy hitters come out, usually.
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>>159310982
Oh I almost forgot about Kino. Gotta rewatch the series and OVAs before Fall.
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>>159305679
>then why kemonofags only post fanart instead of screenshots?
Possibly because the show has been over for 3 months now.

Maybe it would have been helpful if you checked out the threads as the show was airing.
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>>159305475
>Kaban-chan is the typical everyman
>Serval is a deredere

The fuck?
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>>159310982
Kino no Tabi is the only anime I see remaining this year with the potential to beat out Maid Dragon for AOTY. Let's hope they don't fuck it up.
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>>159310456
>>159308360
>I can't explain why it was good, I just like it
You should learn to accept that you're allowed to like things that aren't good. I liked SaeKano but I can't say SaeKano was good.
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>>159312476
>you're allowed to like things that I don't like
Yeah I'm aware.
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>>159312919
If you can't explain why it's good, it's probably not good.
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>>159304081
>hurrr westernize animu
>fucking japs!
Fuck off retard.
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>>159300466
Just best to ignore anyone claiming to be an official anything.
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>>159298656
The last good taste was summer 2016, after that everything fell apart. Just follow the formula:
>it has to have yuri
>it can have any other kind of relationship too, except age gap hetero implications
And you'll realize why the last 3 seasons are wrong.
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>>159298078
Hell no
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>>159316348
Hell yes.
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>>159298078
>inferior to the manga
>best anything
L M A O
M
A
O
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>>159316409
Manga is trash
Can't wait to see loli titcow animated though
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>>159298078
No
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>>159298656
>it's all cute girls
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>>159317952
Correct. You must be new here.
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>>159301970
I unironically like it better than the sub
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>>159298078
So far it's probably Goemon's Blood Spray, but I imagine something better will show up.
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>>159298233

I needed to read this.
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>>159298078
>AOTS
Wouldn't that be Konosuba?
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>>159299562
This.
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>>159312412
it's done by Lerche, which i would say is one of worst studios currently around. Carnival Phantasm is by far the best series they have done, but everything except for MonMusu (which really wasn't very good at all) since has been awful.
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>>159318489
Lerche sounds like something nasty
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>>159312476
If you liked it, then it was good.
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>>159318489
I thought Ass Class was Brain's Base
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>>159318576
they did an OVA of it a while before it came out.
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>>159298656
I like it. SHONENFAGS BTFO! MOEFRIENDS OWN /a/!
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>>159312476
When I realized this I became a much happier anime fan. Anime is indefensible a lot of the time.
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>>159318489
artland was a bottom barrel studio outside of mushishit so it's not like it really matters

the original kino no tabi anime wasn't very good, it was just carried by the source material
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>>159304425

>It's such an outlier in its creation, its presentation, and its resulting popularity and commercial success that the show is causing people to begin questioning what animation itself contributes to the presentation of a story in televised media.
You're high on your own farts dude.

It's an outlier for a reason.
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>>159318747
The fucking scanlines were awful. Is there an unscanlined release?
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>>159319315
Who are you quoting?
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Wasn't LWA objectively voted AOTY though?
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>>159319315
Boy, you sure showed them.
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>>159319565
Oh anon.
Even if they had a segment of them browsing /a/ they still wouldn't even be top 5.
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>>159319565
>proxypolls
>objective
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>>159319565
It is clearly not. LWA was a let down.
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This is all I need for it to be my AOTY.

Apart from being on world maps, it is always a pleasure to be recognized in anime. Doesn't happen all to often for us.
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>>159298656
fuck off with your moeshit
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>>159319882
>>159299817
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>>159319915
>>159299817
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>>159319969
>>159319915
>>/out/
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>>159319680
LWA was good but it was no Eromanga Sensei, a masterpiece they'll talk about 100 years from now.
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>>159298078
Maid Dragon is /a/utism's AOTS
but the fact that Kemono Friends IS unarguable the Japan's AOTS
duel with it
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>>159320348
This nigga gets it.
>b-but muh sales
We don't care.
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>>159320142
Pretty much this. Wouldn't be surprised if Eromanga-sensei was considered a classic in the near future.
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>>159320537
It already is.
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>>159320847
Of course, but what I mean is when it comes down to the "test of time" it'll be Eromanga-sensei written in the history books, not Little Witch Academia or whatever else.
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>>159318747
A.C.G.T (which, by any means, isn't a great studio) did it, not Artland. but nonetheless, they didn't screw up much, and it was directed pretty well. as for Artland, you're probably mistaking it for Mushishi.
on the other hand, Lerche butchers literally everything they touch, and the director of the new one is the director of shit like Persona 3 and Sousei no Onmyouji.
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>>159298078
I have concluded that Maid Dragon is the inevitable AOTY.
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>>159308745
Nostalgia is one of the reasons. It reminds people the feeling of looking forward to go to a zoo and an amusement park, the feeling of learning about animal and the feeling of reading story book, watching TV anime and playing RPG when they were kids. That simple genuine fun that has been lost. Kaban and Serval are somehow like your daughters reminding you all of that when they are having fun and growing up.
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>>159298656
>Ironic twitter weeaboo AOTS chart
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>>159298078
but It was just the same moe romance shit they pump out every month?
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>>159319315
Show them all anon, show them all.
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>>159301970
Why is kanna's voice so deep?
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>>159298078
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>>159298656
High level bait. Literally all SoLshit.
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>Kemono Friends became the most popular anime keyword on the twitter and media in 2017 so far
>4 Guide Books with BD sold through 60000 from Oricon's data without counting online and Kadokawa bookstores
>OP album was the top-10 seller for 4 month on i-tune and amazon
>successful collaboration with zoos
>licensed merchandises sold out faster than expectation
>stage drama ticket sold out and planned more in the future
>new games, animation projects, collaborations, anime events on the way
>lots of only events
yup Maid Dragon won
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>>159325805
b-but CGshit ruining the industry Japan has shit taste stop buying things the animation is terrible why would anyone like anime with no animation please enjoy my favorite show instead miyazaki nooooooooooo
>>
Well, time to explain this thing:
Anime is audiovisual storytelling medium; it has visuals, music, style, tone, voice, animation, and story, characters, world bulding, originality, and so on and so fort. Any anime can fail in one, two, or almost every one of this aspects and still be top quality if is directed and presented in the correct manner.
Series with gorgeous animation can have lackluster story, characters, and all that if the sakuga is there to impress and take your atention (Redline). Or series with style and a comic tone can have this in his favor even if the story, characters and so on are shit if they are used to make you laugh, thus succeding in wnat in needed (Inferno Cop). There are many other example, but let's go to the principal point.
Kemono Friends is a special case of a good series that hasis well directed, and tells the audience the right amount of almost everything. It has simple, but endeering characters, with enough charisma to make you remember them, but not too much to quit the focus from the principal 3. The story is simple, but is not in plain sight, and it just give you little bits of what's beneath the facade to let you speculate, almost never shoving it in your face. The music just fits with every situation as a good complement. And the animations IS really clumsy and almost childish all the way trough, but directed in a way that conveys every single thing that it tries to tell.
The whole series is just like that. It presents something little but sincere, and all of it's elements, that would fail in other kind of shows, helps to sell the show as a simple and cute story. Plus the sentiment of nostalgia many peopl talk about is legitimate sincere. It's a series made with love and passion, and it shows in every one of it's episode.

Tl;dr: It works as a whole, even if many of its elements wouldn't work in other series.
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