Is old school fanservice better than modern fanservice?
Wow this is classy fanservice, like Bakemonogatari, most shows fanservice directly insults my intelligence, unlike this and Bakemonogatari.
Is anybody really going to deny that?
Fanservice has become incredibly restrained and dumbed-down in recent years. Anime used to be legendary because of the copious amounts of graphic and weird content. The term hentai has been near the top of internet searches since the web basically started existing in the first place. Today the best fanservice you can get is generally a bath scene covered in steam, and you can see the cleavage and thighs 20% better if you buy the $70 DVD. It's hard to determine exactly what caused the shift, but it undeniably exists.
Remember when was ok to show naked girls with nipples on tv animes?
Why does she have a Lynx? I imagined 0 Lynx were sold in japan.
Old
>>159294723
No, since the art style doesn't work well for fan service.
Toilet scenes are better now. More erotic.
>>159294723
The animation certainly was better, but the girls themselves were less sexy than they are now, probably because figures were even more unrealistic than in modern anime and the tits looked a lot like fake ones from the 80s and 90s - I guess animators used Playboy or something for references.
>>159295773
also this, the scene in the OP would work equally well if it didn't show her tits, but the purpose of bath scenes and ass shots in modern anime is exactly and only to show the body or the ass.
>>159294723
I want to squeeze those tits until they burst open.Poor girl, she deserved better.
>>159294723
In OVAs like Megazone 23, yeah
If you're going to shove fanservice in there, it'd better be a full-on sex scene and not some half-assed "ohh my panties are too small" bullshit
>Agent Aika vs Aika Zero
Weird that the older series was classier with panties
>>159295967
Holy fuck, is she daijobu?
>>159296057
It just depends on the studios talent and censorship laws. Most fanservice anime are lowest common denominator bs that exites no one.
>>159296071
anon, I...
>>159295456
Get the fuck out
GJ-bu was excellent at subtle fanservice with its sexual undertones.
>>159296071She instantly dies, but then gets brought back to like DBZ style towards the end.
OAVs of the 90s were a haven of high-quality fanservice.
But this era is now gone, never to return.
>>159294723
I still have no clue if people think the retarded ridiculous looking boob animation from Gunbuster is actually good fanservice, or if it's all a joke over how silly it was.
>>159295820
>less sexy
Gay
>>159296490
Thanks to feminism
>>159296545
No, that has jack shit to do with it. OVAs in general are dead.
>>159295820
>probably because figures were even more unrealistic than in modern anime
Is this some kind of joke?
>>159296545
Fucking feminismsm they're gonna take away all my anime titties
>>159296487
>She instantly dies
Wow, it's like getting your heart, lungs, and spine simultaneously torn apart can immediately kill you or something.
>>159296524
I guess you have no clue about how shit your taste is, either.
>>159294723
Nipples were drawn so much better in the late 80s/early 90s.
>>159295043
I almost hate the fact that it used to be so ubiquitous with anime because now you have an entire generation of pseudo/wannabe/actual normalfags who believe all anime is just tentacle rape and school girls.
It took a long time for me to overcome that stereotype and I probably wouldn't have done so without accidentally befriending a few enthusiasts irl.
>>159294723
Not always
>>159294723
Yes.
Difference is fanservice today is made and enjoyed by people who don't even like actual women.
>>159296545
>feminism
>Japan
Pick one
>>159296804
>tokyo bill
>>159296804
>Pick one
?
You feminism doesn't exist in japan?
>>159296724
Don't be stupid. It's amazing how just a few episodes before they had that perfect bounce when she was walking and by then they give us what looks like a superball inside one of her tits trying to escape.
>>159296752
On the contrary, it's good that past productions had so much fanservice, because it compensates for how dull modern productions are.
>>159294723
For some reason I just really like the artstyle of 80's/90's fanservice compared to today.
>>159296532
That's not fair. Kei and Yuri have more sex appeal than almost every anime girl period. He may have been talking on average.
>>159296861
it might exist but the creators know their audience. they know pandering to feminists will make them lose a lot of sales so they just make what they want anyways. if it happens to be harem anime and all the girls have at least an H cup then so be it
>>159296852
Which has nothing to do with feminism.
>>159297000
They're above average but that nothing very special about them in terms of sex appeal. Maybe the fact that they're sluts but they're still outclassed heavily in that aspect
>>159294723
Yes, but so is almost everything else. The shit you kids watch today amazes me.
>>159297103
This reactionary anti-feminism needs to die
>>159297103
Fuckdamnit, america, why you corrupt every word in english language?
Liberal means "Freedom". It was liberals who made sexual revolution in the 70s.
>>159297208
And some of the weird shit I seen come out in your day amazed me too grandpa.
>>159295662
wtf i love gundam now
>>159297437
Grandpa furry had to come from somewhere, youngin
>>159295967
Source? Looks cool as fuck.
>>159294723
>>159296988
Absolutely, largely because the designs were easier on the eyes. Girls in modern /e/ content are excessively shiny, and the faces are less attractive.
The shots in OP are also completely natural -- no unnecessary closeups or effects. The exposure appears more incidental.
Can't we have one fanservice thread without all this social justice crap shoehorned into it?
>>159296804
Well, so far, it's been limited to women having more say in the workplace as well as separate train cars.
>>159295773
This so much. They knew how to combine teasing and subtlety back then. Nowadays, it's just boob jiggles and pantyshots in your face.
>>159295820
You're right, they used composites and stuff from those playboy thin model types. But I would say they'r'e more realistic than the doll like moe blobs you see today.
Modern anime is more consistent especially with character models, less "quality" and "beauty shots" but in a way I think that's why it lacks the charm old school anime has. With the being weird and stuff.
>>159297700
Summerfags will always find a way.
>>159297718
They still looked gorgeous.
>>159294723
is girls bravo old school yet?'
cause i still fap to it
>>159297810
My melanin enriched friend.
>>159297820
IT WAS DIFFERENT BACK THEN
>>159297820
True, but still, it's been cranked up to 11 since the early- to mid-2000s.
>>159295967
>only blinks when it tears through her spine
Pretty good detail
early/mid 2000s fan service was sometimes okay
>>159297549
08th MS is not GundamI actually haven't watched it yet
>>159297946
>>159297798
can you guys take this somewhere else?
>>159297557
I don't know, maybe its because you don't have irl anime-watching friends but we don't really discuss the fan service portions. We may discuss deaths and how gruesome they were but that's about the extent of it. We're a bunch of /m/en anyways so you can shove your shit opinions up your ass where they belong.
>>159297130
>nothing very special about them in terms of sex appeal
You what, mate?But you do you.
>>159297810
I remember watching a hentai with girl that looked like kirie,
too bad the breasts didn't match.
>>159298157
her hair is too weird for me
>>159298179
Little Monica?
>>159298157
>We don't actually get to see those tits.
>>159298227
No,
>>159294944
The thread is pretty advanced already, but you still haven't got any (You)s you were fishing for. Here's at least one.
>>159298364
poor neko
>>159294723
yesssss, old fanservice come from natural movements of women's body (exaggerated by the bounce) so it appeal to men gaze and woman can feel well represented
new fanservice consist of the girls posing like jojo every 5 seconds to show their panties, is not something that real womans do
>>159297563
Devil Hunter Yohko
>>159298076
It's too late. Anime is politics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch2ePSukZIc
>>159298286
Like you're one to fucking talk, Revy.
>>159296669
What a weakling, that's a fleshwound at best.
>>159298227
no
rika junbi shitsu de tsukamaete
>>159298479
i-is this date rape?
She doesn't look like she's having a fun time.
>>159298005
>>159297927
see >>159298365
Why did nipples look so much better before 1995?
>>159299019
im not a fan of small nipples,
the nipples from seikon no waser is more to my liking
>>159297408
Oh you mean by starting the aids epidemic?
>>159294723
Modern fanservice is just too blatant, while classics only gave just enough in scenes when nobody would have expected them.
>>159299019
is this eva
>>159299207
Man, I really feel like you guys nostalgiagoggles are on way too tight.
>>159299315
Gunbuster.
>>159299353
Fuck off.
>>159299315
Its Gundam SEED actually.
>>159298058
> because you don't have irl anime-watching friends
Of course I don't, what are you talking about, normalfag ?
>>159299566
Are mecha fans who discuss mecha anime over lunch nor/m/alfags now? How sad.
>>159299019
Anime tiddy sure gotten bigger in recent times.
>>159299667
Good.
>>159299353
Depends on who you talk to.
>>159298058
>because you don't have irl anime-watching friends
I dont have friends at all
>>159298301
you do you brah, my views are polled around the statistical error in my country, as long as you can look at yourself in the mirror you're fine
>>159299637
If you have friends, you're a normalfag
>>159300212
what if /a/ are your friends?
>>159299721
I'd prefer the show just outright be crass and shove those boobs everywhere. But there's also the growth to recognize from the analog days to now: good animators will add gravity and heft to those enormous tits instead of a generic single bounce. You also get more variety in shape, nipple/areola size, puffyness, color, texture, etc. whereas fanservice from the 90s basically just had pink nubs, and the breasts were defined by scratchy cleavage.
>>159300260
terrible idea.
>>159300212
>ywn be this salty over someone else finding kinship
>>159300260
Then you're anadorableperson and I fuckingloveyou
>>159294723
Both are good
>>159300517
Plastic Little never turned me on as much as modern ecchi does.
>>159297820
Nowadays, that would have been slowed down, zoomed in on her boobs with a multi-colored background and boing sound effects.
>10 years from now we'll be fondly looking back on todays ecchi and complaining about new shit
theyre both great, it just depends on taste. we need some modern fanservice in here to compare and contrast
>>159300816
Kanokon is almost 10 years old, and its fanservice is about the same as what we can expect now.
>>159300816
>no nipples
Just terrible. Completely takes me out of the scene.
>>159300622
I swear the only anime to come in recent memory that does something like this is >>159300816 I may be forgetting, any other examples?
>>159300899
the guys he made it recently came out with an /ss/ hentai
>>159294723
Yes, since more modern designs are disgusting lolicon shit.
>>159300926
This, what the fuck.
>>159298219
Fluff was best thing in 80s anime girls
>>159294723
Was this before or after Gunbuster?
>>159301049
Floofy hair, neon, discotheques, lycra, aerobics, and general 80s aesthetic is why the girls have may been better back then, but their bodies and boobs don't compare.
>>159301072
Fanservice is only good as long as it skirts the edge of the ecchi fanservice and provides a standard anime.
The moment it forsakes character building and plot for fanservice it loses its appeal as it would be no different from hentai.
It must be integrated into the story in order to make my dick the hardest.
Even in the 00's things weren't as bad as today.
Ahh, the days before the magic skirt were good days.
>>159296804
I dunno what you think of Japan but women there are a lot more liberal and superficial than you may think.
Anime and manga are not some representation of Japan, they are a representation of what Nipponese men wish Japan was like or an escapism of the banality and brutality of the salaryman lifestyle.
>>159301319
>>159294723
Yes.
>>159301319
Those were her pubes getting wet you fool. Japs have straight pubes, not curly ones, so they hang down more when wet.
>>159301111
Marida of Gundam Unicorn did a pretty good job of recapturing that look
>>159301351
>dunno what you think of Japan
I think that the fact that they draw everything they want without feminists complaining is the proof that feminism in Japan isn't even close to the one in the west. You're full of shit if you think Japanese "feminism" and American "feminism" are even comparable
Just look the shitstorm Dead or Alive games cause in the west, while Japan doesn't give a fuck. It's because they don't have cancerous feminism
>>159301610
Exactly my point. Shots like this were common place back then because that's how clothing behaves. None of this hard focus on the crotch, or under the table shots bullshit like today.
They just were.
>>159295226
I was about to ask the same anon
>>159301813
>>159301862
>>>/r/MRA
By the way, my "entire post" was like 12 words. Sorry that was too much for you to comprehend.
Seriously you guys take it somewhere else
>>159301707
That doesn't strike me as sexual, either. Just a lady crossing her legs.
>This fucking thread
MOOOODS MOOOOODS MOOOOOODS MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
>>159300517
whoa this a christian imageboard
>>159302253
Do not ask for sauce on /a/.
>>159302253
I have seen one anime and even I know that's Read or Die.
>>159301813
>LOL
The state of /a/
>>159297922
How so?
>>159302253
it's either read or die or read or dream
>>159295456
>t. KyoAnus licking babby
>>159300517
Daaaaamn.
I miss the healthier designs of the 80s and early 90s
>>159296752
cockpit contains space!
>>159295566
>>159303394
>>159303417
>>159303441
Hmm...
Honestly, I actually can't decide which era of anime depicts the act of female excretion in its most tasteful and honest form.
>>159296057
Oh, Aika, my first anime related fap, good old times.
>>159295136
Concrete Revolutio did that in 2016
>>159294723
>the fapservice guy hasn't made a devil hunter yohko fanservice compilation
how can someone have so much shittaste
>>159301113
How did you get an uncensored version?
>>159305341
It's from the laserdisc. The only release that didn't have that part cut.
>>159304968
I'm gonna need a source here anon.
>>159305439
So they made a vagina shot just for the LaserDisc?
>>159305526
Cream Lemon
>>159305538
No. The original release had it and they didn't remove it until releases after the laserdisc since that was the very first release where everyone gave them shit over it.
>>159301617
That's because the women draw even worse things than the men.
>>159304968
>>159298658
Rape rape.
On one hand, it's with her crush. At the same time, the two of them were brainwashed/possessed when this went down
>was anime better when it was made by artists who studied real art instead of glorified cubicle-monkeys who knew a shorthand?
>was anime better when they paid their employees a decent wage?
>was anime better when plot wasn't decided by businessmen playing by the numbers?
Gee. Tough call.
>>159306692
>was anime better when plot wasn't decided by businessmen playing by the numbers
This was never not true.
>>159306692
Anime was better before tsundere sluts and focus on teenage drama became mainstream. Yes, I am referring directly to Eva.
>>159304968
I don't remember this episode of Star Trek
>>159307089
Better than edgy shit with generic space operas and cyberpunk.
>>159306692
>was anime better when they paid their employees a decent wage?
When was this?
>>159294723
Yeah, but 80's-early 90's female character designs are shit.
They look like fucking bugs or have retarded faces.
>>159307459
But that's wrong, you fucking cretin.
>>159307173
When did we start talking about westernshit?
>>159307459
Fucking retard
>>159300990
You mixed that up, old anime was very pedo compared to modern.
>>159307540
>>159307563
It's not my fault you have terrible taste, plebs
>>159294723
Idk what it is but I like the art direction of the pre 2005 animes way better.
Looking at the Berserk Anime I fear that this will become a trend in the upcoming future.
Feels so sad
>>159307563
>When did we start talking about westernshit?
You can't play dumb with me.
>>159307634
>cherrypicking bad designs
>hurr everything looked like shit
Check out the rest of the thread, you mongoloid.
>>159307685
Dumb frogposter.
>>159307733
>Check out the rest of the thread, you mongoloid.
They look like bugs, take off your nostalgia googles, faggot.
>>159294723
France is doing it better now.
>>159295773
>>Every post calling out this guy's fucking bullshit is deleted.
Not only are you a retard for using a false word like "male gaze", but you're retarded because every fan service is done to titillate a male audience. Even from the 80s, as many examples posted here prove you wrong, which is done in a similar sexualized style as today fan service. So how the fuck is it different? So not only are you are a retard for using a false word, but you're even more retarded for being wrong even in the context of that word.
What a Reddit thread
>>159307838
animal buttholes don't count as fanservice
>>159307811
You must have some good looking bugs where you live. Must be in Florida.
Nice thread guys
>>159307885
says you
>>159307717
I've never even once watched Genocyber, faggot.
>>159307885
for you
>>159307885
Her shirt is translucent.
>>159307885Look at the webm againThis is a kids movie based on a kids show
>>159307885
O-oh.
*puts pants back on*
>>159307966
"kids" movie based on a "kids" show
Its like mlp or powerpuff girls that it tries to please adults just as much as kids.
>>159307838
f-for what purpose!?
>>159308042
>he doesn't shove tubas up his pets assholes
You weirdo.
>>159308032
>Its like mlp or powerpuff girls that it tries to please adults just as much as kids.
Minus the degeneracy of lolicons and horsefuckers. Poor France, doing such nice things and getting treated like shit.
>>159294723
Yes, because it's old and that means it's good. The industry is dying now so everything they make is inferior, damn Miyazaki was right
>>159308092
Don't worry, France's been the western world's punching bag for a few centuries. Only Poland gets more shit than them.
old
>>159304968
Why does the Enterprise have a yellow dildo shoved up its ass?
>>159308032
They make what they themselves would like to make.
>>159308092
>the degeneracy of lolicons
Actually, it isn't degeneracy, no matter what your old hags with power want you to believe.
>>159308092
>Poor France, doing such nice things
The problem is that kind of movie isnt going to make much money when adults dont feel comfortable taking their kids to see it.
Either make a movie adults want to see, or one that adults want to take their kids to see. Not a sexually charged kids movie.
>>159304968
偉いぞ
>>159308092
>the degeneracy of lolicons
>>159307964
Damn, I didn't notice on first viewing.
>>159308194
Mentally and physically scaring a child is degenerate, Sanjay.
>>159303394
>>159303417
>>159303441
>>159308403
>mentally and physically scaring a child
It is, but nothing of that comes from a lolicon, or even a pedo's acts.
>>159300816
>I-I swear Pornogatari is deep guys!
>>159300899
noseless derp
skin looks like plastic
tits look like balloons
Is that supposed to be sexual?
>>159308476
Careful not to cut yourself on all that edge, Gaia-kun.
>>159308603
How am I edgy? You are the one acting like an edgy retard.
>>159308710
>How am I edgy?
You more or less implied that child rapists don't cause physical and psychological damage. I get that pedophiles don't necessarily act on their tendencies but you didn't specify that so I don't feel the need to either.
>>159308599
No it's supposed to be humorous.
What kind of weirdo would jerk it to a cartoon?
>>159300517
>my penis
>deleted
>non-porn
Fucking kill yourself off my board, Jani.
>>159294723
Yohko was made for sex
>>159297437
>oldschool fanservice
Gore/Ripped shirts
>modern fanservice
Pantyshots
>>159309733
hahahhahahahhaa
>>159295773
>male gaze
Fuck off to tumblr.
>>159312212
The deleted posts were people arguing, not porn.
>>159295773
>male gaze
No one is looking at your mutilated genitals, tumblrcunt.
>>159313145
http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/159294723/#159295662
>>159301617
>>159296804
Feminism is present in Japan, it just didn't take a turn for the crazy like it did in America.
I don't really know enough about Japan's culture to really say why that is, but I do have theories I won't bother inflicting on you.
>>159313428
>it just didn't take a turn for the crazy
I think the whole socially accepted men-women dynamic is a lot worse than the U.S. Men are pretty subdued over there, so women don't need radical feminism because they already have what they want.
>>159302649
It's part of your nervous system. Her body went into shock and froze the moment she was impaled, but touching the spine jolted her into blinking. Like a chicken with its head cut off. A gruesome death, but mercifully quick.
>>159313507
I don't think that's true at all. From what I've seen, everybody is more subdued over there. Traditionally, men were in charge of the household just the same as America.
If you want to insist on getting into it, I think alot of America's current feminist insanity has to do with the fact that wives spent the fifties and sixties drugged into complacency. Now if you tried talking to most of the batshit SJWs they wouldn't even know about this, but this kind of shit is at the root of it. As far as I know Japan doesn't have anything between genders quite as twisted as that.
>>159296545
>feminism
>Japan
Try conservatism, you ahistorical swine.
>>159296804
Different breed of feminism, but still feminism.
I would say more classical feminism than the modern one. Rights of women, etc. Not calling everything mysogynist and shutting down all hentai/etc.
>>159313309
I would argue, not porn. Gundam 08th was not pornographic. It should have been spoilered but it falls under the hiroshimoot rules for nipples on /a/
>>159313843
Maybe back in 1940
nipple
>>159304968
>literal porn
If Cream Lemon counts then so does Another Lady Innocent, but that anon had enough sense to post Plastic Little instead.
>>159305044
So that's what this super cute Nazi is from. Many thanks anon, it delights me immensely to know I will see this Aryan goddess experiencing intense sexual pleasure.
At least I damn well expect to.
>>159313428
>Feminism is present in Japan, it just didn't take a turn for the crazy like it did in America.
Give it a few years.
>>159308195
Maybe in Burgerland but have you ever seen what French media is like? Unless you live in France I'm not going to take your word over what I can surmise by watching some of their commercials. Those frogs really like to fuck.
>>159315057
Sex negative feminists exist in France too.
>>159314671
w-wait, what's the anime name?
>>159308195
>The problem is that kind of movie isnt going to make much money when adults dont feel comfortable taking their kids to see it.
that deadpool movie did pretty well.
>>159305597
Where to watch?
>>159315151
Its a french movie aimed at french audience with no english dub.
Also more parents let their kids see heavy violence over mild sexual themes.
>>159315188
probably at home when no one else is around
>>159314286
This is the probably greatest hentai series ever created, along with being one of the oldest. Fuck you.
>>159307838
Poor Tofu.
>>159315302
No, seriously, all I can find are shady google dirves.
>>159295773
>male gaze
wew lad
>>159305526
>>159315188
Are nostalgia threads more cancerous than Naruto threads?
I think they may be.
>>159314915
Depends on how things are run and will continue to run.
Let's try to stay on topic here. What's your favorite fanservice moment from your favorite pre-2000 anime?
>>159315449
Cream lemon is a hentai from 33 years ago, it's not like nu-Nyaa is gonna have it.
>>159308401
What's this from?
>>159315128
It was posted earlier in the thread.
>>159308444
>those thighs
UNF
>>159294723
She actually went to bed with that hair? Holy shit
>>159304968
WHOA WTF SO SUDDEN JESUS
>>159315515
I found it on google in seconds.
plus>not having an animebytes account
>>159315614
i think her hair is magic or something
>>159315667
Found it, didn't even know there was a kisshentai.
>>159315128
>>159305597
>>159303441
>>159303394
So this is what hiro is into, surprisingly good.
Got kinda stupid in here for a while.
>>159307838
what the fuck
post more
there must be more
>>159316592
Man I loved Magic Users Club. Saw it back off a friend's VHS fansub that he got from some fansub distro group back in the 90s.
>>159296669
I could survive a minute on sheer willpower
>>159316860
I never actually watched it. Was it that sexy throughout?
>>159316592
I remember watching this on animax.
>>159299487
I'm pretty sure it's Gundam SEED Destiny.
>>159300899
What was this from?
>>159318076
You should know that the studio is xebec
>>159318512
I'm starting to think it's lady vs butler, but I'm pretty sure it's from something else. I swear every drill haired girl and mc looks the same.
>>159316592
muh
definitely picking this one up.
thanks anonkun.
>>159317298
Not really. It was funny, clever, cute, and a little sexy. The story was also really nice.
Where do you guys download all the not so mainstream old school stuff? Can't find any torrents and if i do they're all dead.
>>159321048
I use Pantsu.. are you sure the torrents are dead? Did you cue them up in your torrent program and do you have DHT enabled? Sometimes it can take awhile to find peers -- just give it a little time.
>>159307838
Well, they did have part of the production of Interstella 5555
>>159296490
I remember. I was there anon. I was there.
>>159298479this scene was my first animu fap ever
After Ranma everyone suddenly got nervous about putting nipples on TV for a while. Yosuga no Sora, Qwazer and High School DxD have tried to snap the culture out of it but the casual nipple is not so present as it once was.
>>159296057
That director is fucking based.
>>159295292
Bulma was the queen of fanservice.
>>159297945
>08th MS is not Gundam
UWOTM8?
>>159322541
>>159322653
>>159295773
Please tell me you and the people who actually agreed with you are all doing it ironically.
>>159301113
>That Hirano comic about the pubic hair
>>159322686
>>159295136
Man, I just watched 08th MS Team for the first time last week, and I was genuinely taken aback by Kiki's nude scene at first. Then I realized how fucking watered down new anime is.
>>159322785
>>159304968
My first anime Fap right here. God, I need to look this up again, and have one more go for the sake of nostalgia
>>159294723
what the hell are you talking about?
i just like watching cute girls in underwear.
>>159322910
It's like a plot in porn; just a shallow excuse to get QTs half-naked. Just roll with it.
>>159322880
>>159294723
That's one sweet-ass game gear
>>159306692
>was anime better when plot wasn't decided by businessmen playing by the numbers?
>Posting EVA shit
Yeah, i'm sure EVA was a Mecha anime with shitty characters made purely for fanservice and had character archetypes that were starting to become popular at the time because Anno wanted it too, and not because his boss wanted something that could sell, nope, not at all. He just had a the sweet case of the depressions because his story was just that good.
>>159315309
He was making a point about hentai being different from fanservse which this thread is actually about.
>>159314671
Thank you anons. I've seen the light.
>>159322975
>>159323136
>>159299019
It didn't feel as forced as a lot of recent stuff. I really liked the fanservice in Gunbuster.
>>159295773
>male gaze.
Sorry, I don't speak whale.
>>159296283
Wait, is that the loli vampire from the Monogatari anime? I'm almost through Bake and all she's done is sit in the corner and bite Glasses-Cat once.
She shows an actual personality later?
>>159323473
She's just really depressed shit went tits up for her some time ago. She gets a lot more talkative later on once she fights it off.
>>159313069
>>159313177
>>159322744
>>159315435
Samefag or 4 tards.
Male gaze is just an artsy/feminists way to say say the subject of the art is objectified. Before you get triggered as bad as you are going to, realize their trying to say that today's anime fanservice is poorly fleshed and serves no purpose other than a panty shot. I don't have a problem with it, it's just shallow when compared to older stuff. It's feels like they aren't even trying. Hentai is pretty accessible now so why even bother with characters that are half the time written worse then their hentai equivalents
>>159323576
> the subject of the art is objectified
>Objectifying a drawing
>The word objectified having a meaning beyond "I don't like this thing."
You have no idea how fast I get triggered when social science shit gets mentioned. That shit should stay with the stoned out arthouse students and the thesis wankers.
>>159323576
This, although hentai has also become really low quality these days.
>>159300899
>Kanokon is almost 10 years old
To think I was excited when I was clicking on that spoiler image...
>>159323808
Objectifying just means in this context that you aren't looking at human characteristics and only as a object, such as a vase. If you look at a painting of a vase you don't wonder how the vase feels. I look at her tits and don't wonder how she thinks or feels. The word seems to only be used negatively now.
>>159323834
Yeah, probably from the legendary japanese business man bringing profit margins to your porn
>>159297408
>Liberal means "Freedom"
Now it means playing fast and loose with the Constitution.
>>159297945
>kissanime
Kill yourself my man.
>>159299171
Cold war's over, bruh; that meme's dead.
>>159308176
I still remember the first time I saw this.
And the episode where bulma walks around a cave in panties.
>>159321048
I use AB
>>159324233
>context that you aren't looking at human characteristics and only as a object, such as a vase. If you look at a painting of a vase you don't wonder how the vase feels.
The problem I always have with this definition is it tries to infer a thought process on a very complex concept. Most of the time it's used in a context of because someone likes their sexual characteristics they will instantly discard any thought process on them outside of that. Which is reaching pretty damn hard. To add to it most of the people who try to use that term use loaded as all hell terminology. Stick all that together and you got a phrase guaranteed to piss people off.
>>159322910
>>159295773
>male gaze
>>159325082
Gaze, not gays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9TG_Zu8wBk
>>159307733
>cherrypickingI prefer Bloodberry, myself.
>>159324332
>doesn't pirate his anime
>>159297800
STUDY STUDY
Best fanservice a man can ask for
>>159326437
>kissanime is the only way to pirate anime
>>159326280
sauce?
>>159294723
>>159295967
>>159298479
Seriously, why aren't anime like this being made anymore?
>>159326685
Photon
>>159326741
Because this is not 20 years ago anymore
>>159294723
>there was a time you could see nips in anime
>>159299718
>tripfag
>Liking Fat ugly udders
It's like poetry
>>159326795
You still can: Just buy the BD$$$$
>>159326759
Thanks. I knew it looked related to Tenchi in some way.
>>159307089
Eva is a masterpiece of the time. It's not Anno's fault if everyone tried to make bootleg copies that only superficially resembled it.
>>159326778
But what changed exactly?
>>159326927
Japanese soccer moms, censorship laws, the usual.
>>159326927
the year
Fanservice is actually the only thing modern anime does properly. You should all watch "The Woman called Fujiko Mine", the plot was retarded but the characters were hot.
>>159327011
PTA has been around trying to censor stuff for a long time. Look at Uncle Go when his stuff came out.
>>159327109
That last bit sounded so stupid
>>159323025
I think there is a TV preview somewhere that advertise Eva as funny and full of fanservice even
Whatever you want to say about general fanservice, there is way more yuri these days than pre-2000. I was around for both, and although I have nostalgia for the few ancient examples, it's really no contest simply due to the growth of the genre, which includes fanservicy cases.
>>159327852
Fuck, that looks horrible. This is the one where the girls turn into weapons and vehicles after lezzing out, right?
>>159327907
Valkyrie Drive, yes. Admittedly it didn't live up to its potential, but it was fun in a cheerful, dumb, and thoroughly yuri way.
>>159327982
>Cogwheel nipples
My mind can't process how stupid this is.
>>159328033
Is this better?
>>159328117
>Those veins
I reached Nirvana watching this, you can kill me now.
>>159328117
huh neat you can see veins thats a first
>>159328117
Attack on TITan
>>159326437
Sasuga furry friends poster.
I pirate anime but I don't fucking stream like a pleb.
See https://diff.pics/2X6HwF7kaOGZ/1
Enjoy your shitty quality faggot.
>>159313428
women are treated like shit in japan. constantly getting rape, stalked and police wont help at all.
>>159297810
That is literally the worst era for anime art. Everything looked so shiny and cheap looking.
>>159328414
Women aren't raped in Japan more than any other country. If anything all this hentai/fanservice keeps them away from real women.
>>159309733
I recently started binge watching all of Lupin the Third stuff.
Tiddys everywhere.
>>159294723
Fuck fan service. Much more important is why is old school animation so much more beautiful than today's animation? Who i have to kill to make an studio do hand drawn stuff agaon?
>>159328515
Publishers
>>159328515
Most animation is actually hand drawn on paper, its just scanned and colored digitally.
>>159328414
Source: your cunt.
Seriously, fuck off back to tumblr, we don't like your kind here.
>>159328515
a lot of anime is still hand draw and scanned to a pooter anon its the hand paint cells and backgrounds
>>159323576
This is retarded. There is both tasteful and tasteless fanservice at all eras of Anime's existence.
>>159328515
Because standards and work ethics were stricter back then. Though this translated to absolute hell for the animators themselves, who were basically wage slaves with no lives outside of their jobs. Also, in the 80s at least, there was more money for budgets.
Can't argue with the result though. The real tragedy is that that era and its treasures are disappearing, being forgotten except by the lucky few who experienced them at the time, and they'll never return.
>>159328637
Wasn't Paranoia Agent basically about how working in animation is/was pretty much a living hell?
>>159313507
Most non-sexual feminist complaints lie in employment and wages. Japan's pretty famous for its grueling work life so Japanese women don't have much interest in being part of that unless they have to. On top of that, Japanese women are famous for having basically 100% control of the family's finances.
Not saying that feminism isn't a thing in Japan, but their focuses are different since their priorities in life are different.
>>159328682
>Hi there, Face here!
>>159328682
>>159328117
>those veins
>>159294723
>>159301072
>>159300899
>>159327852
titie
>>159301113
>>159304968
pusie
>>159301113
ANNNNOOOOOOO
>>159296752
Need a source.
>>159318855
it is lady vs buttler.
>>159301329
Source on this?
>>159300517
The King of Breasts. A shame we'll never have anything like this again.
>>159329964
Might be read or die. Unsure because I never watched it myself, but remember something about people manipulating paper.
>>159327982
It also set off the biggest shitstorm /a/ had seen in ages, which eventually led to the reason this thread is still up and hasn't been taken down already.
>>159294723
>0:11 in
>>159294723
I miss the bare nudity of this and Gunbuster.
>>159328414
Bullshit. If anything, you'd be more likely to be raped in what the West calls a "big city". Pic related.
>>159301329
>>159329964
>>159330176
It is read or die.
Some modern service is good some is bad.
Some old service was good and some was bad.
>>159329964
Other anons are correct. It was from Read or Die the TV series, not the ovas.
>>159294723
All fanservice is bad
>>159295136
so what's that show
>>159331616
>Posts terrible example that highlights everything wrong with modern fanservice.
>>159332317
nah
>>159333197
Stop posting my daughter
>>159324667
Agreed. Sexualization is inherently objectifying (because you're using the looks and actions of person for your own sexual pleasure) and this weird disconnection on how it's a bad thing or more explicit means that it's for men reeks of puritanical nonsense. It's only a bad thing if bleeds into how you treat actual people.
I get complaining about fanservice where it actively gets in the way of something more interesting or the lack of nonfanservice shows but for the most part the shows complained were never trying say anything more than titty good evil bad. The solution to have more stuff that panders to other groups than to stop the titty good stuff from being made.I'll go back to tumblr now.
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/10190 too lazy to convert under 3mb
>>159308193
>>159307838
dofus/wakfu has delicious character designs and top-tier waifus in spades
too bad it's effectively banned on /a/ (unsurprising) and never talked about on /co/ because capeshit is all those fucks ever fap to
>>159315057
>those frogs'd really like to fuck
fixed