Knights and Magic

>>159289641
>Gary Stu isekai
>expecting good writing

Anon...

>>159289641
The difference in design between a normal staff and this is quite big. It's not just a natural evolution.

>>159289641
Little girls should not play with guns.

>>159290014
Thank god that isn't a little girl

>>159290088
I'm sick of shows using trap characters. Confuses my dick.

>>159289641

That's not how you hold a gun for Christ's sake.

>>159290117
>Japan
>knowing how guns work

They're not Amerifats.

>>159290117
Thank god that isn't a gun

>>159289641
Why do these magic staffguns even need a trigger guard?

>>159290182

Then why even add stock?

Why add sights if it shots magic arrows from the sides?

>>159289641

The way he's using it a fucking wand would be more effective. LN writing at it's finest.

>>159289641
Isekai made me almost drop
No batshit crazy laser and levitation medieval mechas almost saves the show but
>time skip
That's gonna be a 3 episode drop I can feel it.

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CUTE

>>159290243

Probably because it looks cool.

Seriously, most of Eru's motivations is "because I think it's cool", like when he keeps trying to make flying robots.

I thought it was mildly ingenious how MC and friends use two sheathed staffguns as pseudo-thrusters for flight.

>>159290299
>most of Eru's motivations is "because I think it's cool"

And then he designs better mechas than people from the setting? This is "sasuga Onii-sama" tier bullshit.

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Hey kid, wanna /ss/?

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>>159290331
Cowtits or sweaty loli?

>>159289969
Then how did we end up with guns looking like they do in real life?

>>159290548
hand cannon->arquebus->matchlock->flintlock->etc etc

>>159290604

Crossbows already had stock you fucking idiot.

>>159290636
Your point being?

>>159290548
by not starting with magic staffs, we started with throwing weapons. Throwing weapons became bows, which became crossbows. Then people saw that cannons were pretty swell, so they should find a way to give them to all the peasants to shoot other peasants, so you get rifles.

>>159289641
>isekai gun invention meme

The only isekai that does this right is Release that Witch, which will never be animated.

>>159290548
Slow evolution over millenia.

IRL firearms have a very different use than magic staffs.

>>159289641
So is this shota?

>>159290826
>The only isekai that does this right is Release that Witch
Not really. RtW is slightly better than other isekai because Roland actually delves into the science-y parts but it isn't "done right" by any stretch. For someone that has no blueprints, highly accurate measuring tools or machine tools his inventions have never backfired or exploded except by human error, and even then that was just a steam engine.

>>159290841
>Slow evolution over millenia

Except they went from hand cannons to arquebus in less than a century.

>>159290841
>millennia
It's been less than a millennium since gunpowder was invented.

>>159291357
>The first confirmed reference to what can be considered gunpowder in China occurred more than three hundred years later during the Tang dynasty, first in a formula contained in the Taishang Guaizu Danjing Mijue in 808
fuck off idiot-kun

>>159291320
>>159291357
I ment spears > bows > oldschool gunpowder shit > etcetera.

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i thought being unable to be a girl is BAD ENOUGH

NOW I JUST RELIZED I WILL NEVER BE A CUTE LOLI BOY

>>159289641
I thought the gun part was smaller. It a little too big for me.

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Holy shit, I haven't seem something with a first episode pace this bad since that one anime with Sonic and Mario years ago.

So this is like youjo senki only with an MC that's actually cute then?

If you are going to make a weapon that looks like a gun, you should at least try to be consistent and have people use it like a gun.

And if you're going to have a thing that looks like a wand, let it be waved around like a wand, so we know it's not an ordinary stick.

why is the pacing in this episode so frantic. They just condensed 14 chapters of the manga into one episode

>>159289641
Because nobody should be smarter, stronger or more special than snowflake MC-kun and the MC can't be more intelligent than his author, and that's setring the bar low.

Expect lots of political and academic retardedness created just for the sake of drama.

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>>159293989
Its going to be dimension w all over again.

>>159291271
Yes, but all of that is bypassed by having witches doing things that would require more modern tech. The whole bootstrapping process is well thought out and he does create his own standard measures at one point.

The only unrealistic thing is a mech engineer remembering so much about chemistry.

>>159293719
>>159293989

The parts they skipped were horrible anyway. Be glad.

Did you really wanna see some shitty duel with their half brother? Pretty much every isekai/fantasy does something like this. I'd rather watch mechas and the behemoth fight.

>>159293989
>wanting to wade through inane shit

Is that main character some finnish trap?

>mfw the MC is voiced by the same VA as Megumin from konosuba
>mfw when i have no face

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>draw a girl
>call it a boy
I'm getting real fucking tired of your shit Japan. At least the other girls are all cute enough to make up for it.

>>159296992
I thought she/he sounded familiar

>cute trap shota mc
Will this show turn me into a faggot?

>>159296992
Girl, damn! She should have really read at least the barest pretense behind the story before jumping into this offer.

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>>159297274
You already are.

>>159289641
Literally why even make this an isekai? It would've been fine if they just didn't show the first 5 minutes of the episode

>>159298225
Now you can give excuse why MC is a gary Stu like every Isekai shit?

>>159298340
Because the writer wants to show the MC being cool and doesn't have any sense of struggle and payoff. I would have been alright with him being really good at magic, but somehow he has all the perfect occasions just falling on his lap, he isn't socially awkward despite have a non-existent social life for the longest time and when he does it's to go completely out of character. I hope he won't be as broken when he it comes to piloting. But who am I kidding, he'll probably be naturally gifted there as well.

Im trying to not think too much about it at this point, I have cool mechs and a cute boy. That's what matter.

>isekai
>fujobait with selfinsert slut
>mechashit
>ugly cgi monsters
>mc takes over some kid's body and nobody minds the behavior shift nor does he himself care about the world around him besides the mechas

Seems fun.

>>159299085
Just turn your brain off and enjoy, anon

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>>159299085
>fujobait
What.

>>159298790
These are all of my thoughts condensed
I can't watch shows like this, even if the characters are cute. Good luck, anon

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The fucking madmen. This uniform was designed entirely so that MC could crossdress without actually crossdressing.

I hope we at least get some /ss/ payoff after that headpat.

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I like it

>>159299579
Isn't he too old for /ss/ after the time skip?

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>>159299660
>this cutie
>falling for some shota
I hate it.

>>159299688
He stays a manlet forever

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>>159299701

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>>159299579
>/ss/

Pleb, boys like this are for dickings.

>>159299701

Stay mad ojisan.

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>>159299945
I will do.

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>Putting your name in functions
shiggy

What is even the point of the isekai element? It felt so irrelevant. The kid could have just been a prodigy and the story would have been the same.

>>159299709
He must've been doing some serious shit before his meeting with Truck-san to be cursed with the body of a manlet on reincarnation.

>>159300306
Self insert

>>159300306
What if they return to Upper Earth?

>>159300126
>you have to put your name in all functions you wrote so your colleagues can shame you for spaghetti code
Terrifying idea.

>>159290356
At least they go into detail in the LN about why the people who are competent in that world are having trouble developing better robots. Eru is actually the strongest mage in the nation by age 12 just because of his programming is like magic cheat.
They do a whole subplot about a secret facility made about eru's designs and they make mechs that are better than his in some ways, which doesn't stop him from winning when they fight as them as display for king. This is despite eru spending the entire fight testing out his rockets and fucking up.

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>>159300714
>Eru is actually the strongest mage in the nation by age 12

Fucking isekai holy fuck.

>>159300714
>>159300966
I read that as
>Eru is actually the shortest mage in the nation by age 12

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Threesome doujins when?

>>159301215
If the MC fucks the sister, which hole does the brother take?

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>>159300966
>In few years Eru become the strongest Erufu.

>>159301256
The MC's boypussy. Duh.

>>159300966
How new?

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>>159300306
>What is even the point of the isekai element?

He was an experienced programmer capable of holding complex patterns of code in his head and that gives him an edge because magic = programming. SICP agrees, don't bother them about it.

He is obviously very conscientious about what he likes (mechas) because he is an adult inside (or at least a manchild) and spent his youth studying and training instead of wasting time or chasing skirts.

And because he wasn't a NEET but a competent employee he has mad powerpoint skilllz, that will become handy to convince nobles and kings to give him money and resources to build giant killing machines.

Living the dream.

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I like where this is going

>>159290296
God I hate the friend characters. They're so bland and boring.

>>159300306
For /m/ to self-insert why does it bother you tho

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>>159301296
Sorry, that hole is already sold for 3 silver coins.

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>>159300126
>>159301349
>silhouette knights are upgraded kuratas

At least they got a fine name for their capital.

Kankkunen = Hangover

Oh, how I wish Finland would Combine its three big cities into one and call it Helvantes. And only because that would be cool as fuck.

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>>159301296
This is my fetish

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MC has a fucking fat ass.

This was a lot shittier than expected, the cute trap mc didnt save it for me

>>159299709
Just because he's a manlet doesn't make him a shota.

>>159301815
The ED is nice.

Should I just go with the manga if anime keeps up this pace?

>>159299938
thats gau

>>159301815
>that's supposed to be a boy

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>>159301934
Made for impregnating.

>>159289641
I can't think of a more blatant self-insert gary stu than this faggot.

Dropped on the first episode.

>>159302959
Did you forget Kirito?

>draw a girl
>call it a boy
Am I even gay for liking Ernie?

>>159302959
See you next week. But you need to up your shitposting everyone these days goes with 'muh blatant self insert' it becomes pretty boring even if true. Or rather a lot of people don't do that. So it'd be better to call the character just bland. Why do people think other people self-insert into characters they don't like? Again another boring meme if you ask me tbqh fampai.

>>159303406
Yes. It's just a cute shota, the moment you see it as a girl is the moment you should realize you're a faggot.

Is this the isekai thread

>>159289641
Man why does it have to be boypussy ?

>>159305233
It's always boipucci

>>159305233
It's a young boy so it's fine. Rapidly approaching the age where things are getting gay though. Somewhat of a waste but ultimately all boys must grow up into men.

>>159305460
Not if they take hormones anon. We can still prevent it, we have the technology to do it.

>>159299085
He was reborn. In the manga his mother says that he was a weirdly sad kid before he saw a mecha again. "he seems to have lost something" or something like that. u fag

>>159289641
Another fucking Japanese Trucks leads to Isekai anime

I'm surprised nips aren't just leaping in front of these monsters now

>>159289641
Best boy(boy)

>>159303325
Kirito wasn't as bad. An autistic neckbeard programmer becoming an alpha socially competent charismatic trap who everyone wants to fuck, even the narrator, and is the strongest in the kingdom is way worse. Doesn't help that we had the narration fellating him(unlike other kids Ernie was etc,etc, what a prodigal child etc..) despite the fact that he WASN'T like other kids because he was actually some middleaged man.

>>159303479
Is this a pasta or are you legit retarded?

So did his co-workers finish the program on time?

I need to know this is probably the most important thing from the anime

>>159306637
>An autistic neckbeard programmer
no he wasn't autistic and he wasn't neckbeard
he was already social but he was a hopeless robot otaku

>>159306708
Yes.

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>Isekai
There is not a single fucking reason for this to be a isekai show. The MC being an otaku or coming from our world changes jack fucking shit nothing to the story. It's isekai because the author wanted to write isekai.
>Trap
I'm not against traps in anime, but at least be confident in what you're doing. Want to make a trap, then make a fucking dude who actively dresses and acts as female. If you don't, then either make an actual girl or an actual guy. Trying to pander to both sides by making a cute boy who looks like a girl is just retarded.
>Mechas
No mecha super powers until now, and also no strategies in battles. The people who are supposedly pros at this just ram and spam whatever they can to fight off giant bugs. Most boring shit ever.
Also, can't wait for the protag to revolutionize the mechas of the world, which ties into my next point
>Gary stu
He is a genius, everyone loves him, all girls are falling over his dick even though he hasn't hit puberty yet and can only get hard ons for robots. Literally created a technology that just shits over all previous stuff before getting to middle school.
"b-b-ut he came from our world! and he is genius!"
He is a genius in programming, and even though the anime said that, somehow, magic is just like programming, which would explain his talent, that doesn't give him an weapons engineering degree. Not to mention all the differences that would apply to magic considering the design we give to weapons today are meant to be precise while also dissipating energy, and I doubt magic has recoil. This all only gets worse when you consider the time span and the fact that whoever draw it couldn't even think of a more believable design for a gun that shoots magic.
And then he is also a fighting genius, because somehow the kid went full rambo in a situation where people more experienced than him couldn't hold their shit together. The only moment the anime had to make it right and they fail it even harder.

>>159306264
Being reborn with his memories intact is the same thing as stealing the body of their child because he took the spot of a legitimate child of their own to raise.

>>159306916
They never inteded to make him a trap, you autists are the ones calling him a trap even though he is just a femenine boy and makes sure to tell people he is a boy whenever they get confused.

>>159306916
IIRC magic is a set of scripts you can invoke after setting parameters correctly
he scripts the initialization part too
I might be bullshitting though

>>159306994
>he is just a femenine boy
no he is just tiny and cute and prepubescent

>>159306940
No it doesn't. We don't even know how souls work in this universe. Maybe his soul took the place of another sould and maybe his soul was sent into a soulless fetus.

>>159306940
The father was also cucked as some +30yr old man from another world was sucking on his wife's breasts, resting on her lap, and who knows what else

>>159307101
Compared with other boys of his age he is certainly more femenine-looking.

>>159307153
It does. It's indefensible.

He was never their kid, he was a grown man with a mind/personality of his own.

>>159307049
He'd get along well with Taurus Silver

>>159306916
>There is not a single fucking reason for this to be a isekai show
How else were they going to establish that he was a great programmer? It's not like programming exists in the Isekai world

>>159307220
Don't compare Onii-sama to this shitty author masturbation MC

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>>159306994
>They never intended to make him a trap
>Go out of their way to make a male character LOOK, SOUND and sometimes ACT like a girl, wear dubious or flat out feminine clothes and even make other characters acknowledge it, making it clear they are self aware
Yes, clearly not intended. It's just the artist that probably has gay hands or something.

>>159307049
I don't have a problem with this, it was a smart way of making him a good magic user by making use of the useless isekai (I mean, it could be easily changed that he just worked his ass off and is just talented in that world without any isekai bs). But what I can't take is that he is suddenly also an engineer who can shit all over the place and people will take his projects seriously.

>>159307220
Not make him be a programmer in the first place?

>>159306940
>>159307218
Except if Reincarnation is just a natural process in this story (which it normally is) and this time around Ernesti just happened to remember his past-life for some reason.

Would you treat a grown man with complete memory loss as your child? Because that's what a new-born basically is, assuming the Reincarnation System is a natural phenomena.

>>159307218
No, it doesn't. How about you actually give my some arguments instead of just saying "nu uh"? We don't know how souls work so he don't know if he took another soul's place or if he was just sent into the soulless body of a baby.
And biologically he is their son.

>>159306994
This actually, it's just a cute shota, you're simply gay if you think that's a girl.

>>159307283
>Not make him be a programmer in the first place?
That's crazy talk. Everyone knows programmers are a minority in anime and Japan needs more diversity in their cartoons

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>>159298790
I want to watch this, because I like fantasy mecha
But at the same time, I cannot fucking stand everything you just mentioned.

Is it really so fucking hard to...TRY to make a character who isn't focus tested to be the greatest thing ever? I can hardly take this seriously because of the main character's design alone.

Goddamn, I can't believe Saito from ZnT is becoming a paragon of isekai main characters, because he actually had a routine of struggles, and isn't a perfect infalliable main character who has more problems than "X doesn't like him" or "His enemies HATE HIM"

>>159298225
Because you want to sell the idea of being reborn in a magical world as a cute shota.

>>159307283
Just because he looks girlish doesn't mean he is a trap and his clothes aren't that femenine either.
He doesn't dress or act like a girl and doesn't allow people to get his gender wrong so I don't see how he is a trap. You are probably the same kind of retard who thinks any relatively short character with a small chest is a loli.

>>159290548
>Then how did we end up with guns looking like they do in real life?
The thing with aiming, is that you need the firearm to actually be accurate enough to benefit from aiming. Accuracy in a firearm require extreme fine adjustments, and for a long time the average hand cannon doesn't really hit the same place every time.

In fact many real life guns were rejected by the military just because they were not able to hit the same place twice while fixed to the table.

If your gun act unpredictably, then what you do is just have a lot of people firing the weapon at the same time so by dumb luck you hit somebody.

As engineering improved, accuracy of the weapon improved. And that was when it started to make sense to have gun sights, sensitive triggers, and eventually scopes.

It is very likely magic projectiles in this anime doesn't obey physics, in any case.

>>159298790
>he isn't socially awkward despite have a non-existent social life for the longest time
When was this implied?

>>159307568
When he rejected the offer to go drink with his coworkers so he could go and buy some gunplas.

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>>159307316
Let me "draw" it out for you:
>Universe 1 is us
>Universe 2 is mecha
>In universe 1, MC dies, his souls is put in suspension or directly transferred, it doesn't matter, what ti matters is that his souls goes from body A to body B
>In universe 2, a baby is born, that baby had white hair and was ordinary, maybe a bit odd, but definitely not "out of this world" kind of odd
>Universe 2 baby is building his brain with new memories, creating his own, original, personality
>One day, all of sudden, a strange soul invades his body, or the memories inside of his soul's past life awaken
>Thus, the personality, and effectively, the baby is replaced by a 30 something y/o dude from other world

So yeah, it doesn't matter how you look at it, a kid lost his life so that the MC may exist in that universe. Whoever that kid was, and was going to be, is no more. The only one that exists is the MC who is alien to that world and that body.
Effectively, your memories make up who you are. Take them away or add new ones, and the final product won't be you. When that happens slowly in daily-life, we call it maturing, which is a long process of changing one self (supposedly for the better). But in a sudden shift like in the show, it's more of a complete replacement.

>>159307632
He puts his hobby over socialization, but that doesn't mean he doesn't socialize at all. He wasn't shy or trying to avoid interaction with people. He just wanted to buy fucking robots.

>>159307651
Except the MC was the kid from the very first moment, it's just that he was so autistic that he didn't care about a world where mechas don't exist.

>>159298790
>Because the writer wants to show the MC being cool and doesn't have any sense of struggle and payoff

I'm sorry you're ugly and untalented anon, I really am.

>>159307736
Well, the story failed to show that then because the two times he is shown interacting with people before his death he is either barely talking to them while he goes to do his job or refusing an invitation to a social event so he can go buy some gunpla.

>>159307316
>>159307288
Since you seem kind of stupid(probably the ESL from your inability to understand my point) I'll try to simplify it.

Even if reincarnation is a thing in their universe.

The parents would normally get a blank slate. One who would behave his age, develop according to his raising/environment, and would reciprocate his parents feelings as a child his age.
Instead they got some fully grown and developed man from another world who would not treat them as their actual child(by this I mean had they gotten a normal blank slate since I can already see your dumbass misunderstanding again and bringing up souls) would or see them the same way, it would be impossible for him to. Dude even ignored the dad who saved him and opened his arms for a hug.

>>159306371
>I'm surprised nips aren't just leaping in front of these monsters now
I mean they do have the highest suicide rate in the world so...

>>159307651
>Whoever that kid was, and was going to be, is no more. The only one that exists is the MC who is alien to that world and that body.
>Effectively, your memories make up who you are. Take them away or add new ones, and the final product won't be you. When that happens slowly in daily-life, we call it maturing, which is a long process of changing one self (supposedly for the better). But in a sudden shift like in the show, it's more of a complete replacement.
This

>>159307813
>The parents would normally get a blank slate
And how do you know this? What if the baby would have been stillborn if MC's soul wasn't sent into his body like in Mushoku Tensei?
You are talking about what might have happened even though you have no way to know this and are just speculating.

>>159306371
>Another fucking Japanese Trucks leads to Isekai anime
>I'm surprised nips aren't just leaping in front of these monsters now
I mean if they didn't do it after the start of Yu Yu Hakusho, they probably never will.

The thing with Japanese mythology is that death is considered unpleasant for everyone. The reason the average Japanese have a Buddhist funeral is because it is believed that the Shinto afterlife is inferior.

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Whew. Good thing this guy wasn't into shotas.
>>159307813
>Dude even ignored the dad who saved him and opened his arms for a hug.
Poor otou-san.

>>159307938
Wow you're fucking retarded anon.

>>159307999
Then how come they have such high sucidie rates.

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Look at the silhoutte knights in ep 1. and then look at this one Eru designed. Tell me how the hell a non isekai'd gunpla fanatic would design something like this with that worlds common sense?

>>159308017
Not an argument.

>>159308082
There's no need to present an argument against someone incapable of understanding what's being said after so many posts. You're clearly stupid.

>>159307415
You do know that someone spent a long time thinking about how this character should look and why, right? That person, whoever it was, went out of their way to make a male character look female.
And no, the show itself showed that it can make male boys that look like male boys. Being a kid isn't an excuse. And the show even makes it more clear by acknowledging that he indeed looks a lot more girlish than an ordinary guy would.
>Doesn't wear girlish clothes
C'mon, you're better than that. Just look at pic related. Put that in any dude and it will look gay and funny.
They even made sure to draw an actual male so you can compare and call out their bullshit.
>Doesn't allow people to get his gender wrong
Irrelevant. What matters is the intent of the author.

>>159308034
>Then how come they have such high sucidie rates.
The Japanese don't kill themselves to get a better life. They kill themselves as an apology for failure.

>>159307651
Your entire argument is based upon presumptions that you have no idea if they are even true. What if the baby MC was intended to inhabit was going to be a miscarry/stillborn? Funny how you never considered that possibility at all.

Face it, you are just playing devil's advocate and virtue signal about how eeeevil the isekai MC is because he died and then was forced into the body and mind of a child. It wasn't like the MC forced it on this hapless kid, they were BOTH victims.

>>159308056
Fucking caveman imagined centaur. You don't need much more common sense than seeing a horse, a human body, and then imagining a working creature that has a combination of both.
Also, people there ride horses. All he had to do is to see someone riding a horse, imagining this as a robot, and removing the unnecessary parts (like human legs). And it's done.

>>159308153
I do understand but I think your opinion is stupid because its based on pure speculation.
You don't know what would have happened to the kid if Eru wasn't isekai'd so you don't have any proof that he took the place of a "normal" baby.
Maybe he did, maybe the baby would have been an empty shell of a human being or even wouldn't have been born at all, it's impossible to claim shit would have happened one way or another when he have no info on how this shit works.

>>159308233
This desu nips are insane and enjoy murder without getting their hands dirty

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>>159308180
Forgot pic

>>159308334
He is catering to an audience: the shotacons, not the trapfags.
I mean, come on, short pants are like the iconic shotacon outfit.

>>159308239
>Your entire argument is based upon presumptions that you have no idea if they are even true.
Wot

>Whoever that kid was, and was going to be, is no more. The only one that exists is the MC who is alien to that world and that body.
>Effectively, your memories make up who you are. Take them away or add new ones, and the final product won't be you. When that happens slowly in daily-life, we call it maturing, which is a long process of changing one self (supposedly for the better). But in a sudden shift like in the show, it's more of a complete replacement.
Is entirely true, no presumptions necessary. Even a stillborn would have been better.

>>159308334
Need more fanservice of main character. She's just so cute(male).

>>159301256
Eru fucks the brother while the sister pegs Eru

>>159308289
>I do understand
>its based on pure speculation.
No you don't fucking understand

>>159307752
So at some point there was a grown man shitting his pants and sucking a random women's breasts? And that went on for months? And then this guy acted as a kid for years until he saw a giant piece of metal and got a boner?
That would actually be worse.

>>159308239
>Your entire argument is based upon presumptions that you have no idea if they are even true.
It's based on assumptions based on logic and what the show gave us.
>What if the baby MC was intended to inhabit was going to be a miscarry/stillborn?
Doesn't matter. You can't kill someone just because they should have died earlier.
>Face it, you are just playing devil's advocate and virtue signal about how eeeevil the isekai MC is because he died and then was forced into the body and mind of a child.
Never claimed that. Just stepped into the conversation because someone couldn't grasp basic ideas on philosophy and what constitutes the self.

>>159308288
I had typed up a response to this, but I know the anime will skip the explanation anyway, and there is no point arguing with an Anime only fag anyway.

>>159308334
>trap MC
>no reverse trap heroine
Preemptively dropped.

>>159308445
>Is entirely true, no presumptions necessary. Even a stillborn would have been better.
nice baito desu

>>159298340
I atleast liked the fact that countries ended up catching whiff of him creating new mechs and stole all of them and got away with it.

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>>159308571
>I would argument but I won't and I will just tell I would so I can leave this discussion with the victory in my head
To be more autistic than this you had to write a novel about an otaku being isekai'd into a trap in a mecha world with magic.

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So how much of the early story did they cut out by going so far down the Tell not Show rabbit hole? The Last Kingdom wasn't this obvious and they only cut out about 2/3rds of the first novel.

>>159289641
>why haven't they already designed sticks that can be aimed ergonomically themselves
Why are they still using a 100 year old robot design as their frontline unit?

>>159308445
>>159308508
You are assuming the kid would have been ANYTHING at all when it's possible he would be just a cute baby corpse, that's called fucking speculation, retard.
>Even a stillborn would have been better
How? Just admit your arguments are retarded.

>>159308544
>So at some point there was a grown man shitting his pants and sucking a random women's breasts? And that went on for months? And then this guy acted as a kid for years until he saw a giant piece of metal and got a boner?
>That would actually be worse.
You are just moving the goalposts now.
>It's based on assumptions based on logic and what the show gave us
It's based on you pretending to know how reincarnation works even though the show never explains it or shows what could have happened to Eru if the japanese dude's soul wasn't sent into his body.
>Doesn't matter. You can't kill someone just because they should have died earlier.
You can't kill someone who never fucking existed. Again, there is no proof that there was any soul inside Eru before the japanese dude's soul got there.

>>159308289
they got some fully grown and developed man from another world who would not treat them as an actual child of their own would or see them the same way, it would be impossible for him to

>>159308410
Oh right, so this is why all the shotacons are crazy about this character and.. oh, right, they aren't, it's the trapfags who are getting boners here.
Just read the thread or any other discussion about this anime. Everyone but you considers this a trap, and for good reason.

>>159308763
That's because Eru is autistic as shit. A more normal dude from our world could have treated them like his parents, there are some isekai stories where the MC ends up considering his new parents his legit family.

>>159308750
So you're going with the I'm just pretending to be retarded route now?

>>159308544
>It's based on assumptions based on logic and what the show gave us.
Because logic is all that matters, right? Humans are just machines, after all, so it makes perfect sense!
>Doesn't matter. You can't kill someone just because they should have died earlier.
"Kill"? Literally zero proof of that.
>Never claimed that. Just stepped into the conversation because someone couldn't grasp basic ideas on philosophy and what constitutes the self.
Ok

>>159308808
That's because the trapfags are so desperate that they will latch at anything that barely resembles a trap and that's why I'm saying that that's stupid because MC is not a trap.

>>159308852
Not an argument.

>>159308826
Anon no normal adult transported into a baby could treat their new parents as an actual child would.

>>159308750
Just ignore that logicfag, he's obviously trolling by spouting nonsense.

>>159308912
just realized you're that one shitposter who tried arguing against the obvious every time in IBO

The guy was born as a baby, he didn't take anyone spot
This thread is full of retards

>>159289641
they should try warhammer fantasy.

>>159308956
>>159308870
>>159308750
yep it's ACK the /m/, /u/, and /a/ super autist. Nice samefagging

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>>159309031
Yeah we're totally just one person.

>>159308961
>>159309031
>hurr durr I don't have any arguments so I will call him a shitposter
I don't even know who the fuck you are talking about but whatever makes you happy, dude.

>>159289641
Someone please don't tell me Addy is not the main heroine unless the author fucked up.

Shota traps are meant to /ss/ with busty Oneesans or Christmas Cakes not flat chested similar aged girls.

>not having an advancement for 300 years
>inb4 isekai writing

>>159308750
>You are just moving the goalposts now.
No, I'm not, I'm simply asking you about the proposition you made. If, indeed, he had his memories and soul from the very start, then, of course, there would never be someone else to be replaced. That logic is sound.
However, it comes with some implication, for example, the fact that this person would have gone through their early years and childhood as an adult, and fake it all to not be suspicious.
So, is that true? Did he had his memories from the very start?

>It's based on you pretending to know how reincarnation works
I don't need to know how it works, just it's consequences. It's how logic works, buddy. I don't need to know how to kill a man to know that killing a man is morally wrong.

>there is no proof that there was any soul inside Eru before the japanese dude's soul got there.
The parents not freaking out that their kid is an empty husk is should be enough proof. Unless you assume that the kid could function properly without it, being programmed in the core to simply act as a kid.
But then, we are left with more questions. In the end, for you to assume that a kid wasn't killed, you need to throw yourself in a bunch of baseless assumptions and simply imagined that it all worked because magic. However, the idea that there was a kid who disappeared when the dude came answer a lot more questions, is more sound and more logical. That, of course, doesn't imply anything about the protagonist, is just a fact, something that happened.

>>159308870
>Because logic is all that matters, right? Humans are just machines, after all, so it makes perfect sense!
You just went retarded there. Or what, does his feelings for his nakama bent the world to his will?

>"Kill"? Literally zero proof of that.
If there was a kid that was replaced, in that world, in that situation, the kid was effectively kid. He was no more. That self who once existed stopped existing.

>>159289641
>not inventing leaf spring suspension for the cart
>not inventing vulcanized rubber tyre
>not inventing horseless carriage
do you even racekar?

>no projectile guns for the normal plebeian with no mana
/k/ is rolling in their graves

>>159308873
Whatever makes you fap with a clean conscious, buddy. If all you do is say "No! It's not a trap" in the face of arguments and proof, this discussion ends here.

>>159309175
>You just went retarded there. Or what, does his feelings for his nakama bent the world to his will?
The fact that you ignore simple human emotion really says a lot about who you are. I honestly hope you get better.
>If there was a kid that was replaced, in that world, in that situation, the kid was effectively kid. He was no more. That self who once existed stopped existing.
We are never shown, told, implied or otherwise, that a kid was replaced. That is pure speculation.

It doesn't matter that the self stopped existing if it never existed in the first place.

>>159309162
try giving a computer to middle age people.
can they upgrade it?

>>159309297
If they built it, they can definitely put more research into it.

>>159309175
>So, is that true? Did he had his memories from the very start?
Yes, the manga and LN make it pretty clear that the japanese dude was Eru from the very beginning, only the anime made it confusing as shit.
>I don't need to know how it works, just it's consequences
But you actually need to know how it works to know its consequences and what might have happened if things played out differently.
You know killing a man is morally wrong because you know killing a man causes his death and not killing him causes him to keep living and that's because killing a man follow a logical proccess. Reincarnation is fucking magic and works the way the author wants it to do so you can't claim to know shit about it except from the very little info the author gave us about it.
>The parents not freaking out that their kid is an empty husk is should be enough proof. Unless you assume that the kid could function properly without it, being programmed in the core to simply act as a kid.
>But then, we are left with more questions. In the end, for you to assume that a kid wasn't killed, you need to throw yourself in a bunch of baseless assumptions and simply imagined that it all worked because magic. However, the idea that there was a kid who disappeared when the dude came answer a lot more questions, is more sound and more logical. That, of course, doesn't imply anything about the protagonist, is just a fact, something that happened.
What? Again, the japanese dude was inside Eru from the very beginning. There was no Eru before and we have no proof that there might have been an Eru if the dude soul's wasn't sent into the fetus, sperm or whatever stage an human being must be when he recieves a soul.

>>159308611
Reverse traps are far to rare

Feels strange bringing it up but Youjo Senki did isekai intro right. They spent the time showcasing the main character and what they were like and then there was an actual REASON he got sent to another world and when he did it was from the very beginning of life and it correlated with the reason as well. People just being dropped into other worlds with no explanation is just terrible fucking writing. I mean jesus take at least take 10 minutes to build up to it and get some proper structure going.

>>159309247
But I already gave you my arguments.
It doesn't dress like a girl, it doesn't act like a girl and any misunderstanding related with his femenine looks is quickly cleared up.
The only trapish thing about him is his appearance and there are many shota who look like that too.

>>159309631
>It
*He

>>159309346
it was probably aliens.
they're on a horse and cart.
and the magic is probably not magic.

>>159309591
>People just being dropped into other worlds with no explanation is just terrible fucking writing.
On the other hand, not all stories have to give you that implicit reason up front like Youjo Senki did. Some stories hide that reason until much later for a big reveal or twist, but I have to agree with you: a lot of isekai just ignores the problem altogether.

Some people just write for fun and don't really care why trucks are the most lethal force in Japan.

>>159309789
It's kind of disturbing if you think about just how many tropes there are now in this medium. There are so many that you could probably create an entire series that uses nothing but tropes.

Ernesti Laihialalta. Että näin sitten tänään.

>>159309920
why is there a little megumin

>>159309920
Cute

>>159309949
>It's kind of disturbing if you think about just how many tropes there are now in this medium. There are so many that you could probably create an entire series that uses nothing but tropes.
Tropes ARE what stories are made of, anon. Now you finally realised it.

>>159309949
>in this medium
>this medium

>>159309631
There is a literal picture a few posts above of him dressed like a fucking girl, in a girlish pose. But yeah, "No he isn't!!!!" is a nice argument.
And once again, he, the character, clearing that up doesn't matter because we are discussing the intent of the author, not of the character.

>>159310392
I already said short pants are more of a shota thing than a trap thing.
Again, the whole point of a trap is that the characters fools other people into thinking he is a girl (it can be intentional or not) by both looking girlish and acting like a girl. The MC does look girlish but he never acts even remotely similar to a girl and the whole "wow, what a cute girl thing" barely lasts a few seconds every time it comes up.

Knight's & Magic
>/m/ isekai
is this also /cm/ isekai?

Smartphone
>/g/ isekai

Gunota
>/k/ isekai

Re:Zero
>/r9k/ isekai

Konosuba
>?

Dungeon Seeker
>?

I know theres one /ck/ isekai too. Nectar of Dharani is maybe /e/ isekai

Tanya
>/his/ or /a/ though /a/ would be mostly because of the joke

Anyway, is it possible to create a legit 4chan isekai list?

>>159309294
>The fact that you ignore simple human emotion really says a lot about who you are. I honestly hope you get better.
You're so off-topic in this discussion that a little more and you might hit on another thread.
Emotions have 0 to do with what happened.

>We are never shown, told, implied or otherwise, that a kid was replaced. That is pure speculation.
The show implied that once there was a kid and suddenly the dudes memories were awoken. If that isn't correct, then it's bad directing. If that was the case, a kid was killed.
In any case, the only other possibility that can be conceived is that the dude was born in that world with his memories. And thus another series of consequences would appear. There isn't much to go for in the scenario presented by us.

>>159309519
>But you actually need to know how it works to know its consequences and what might have happened if things played out differently.
Not really. I don't need to know, for example, if the soul was transferred immediately or hanged in a suspension; if the memories were just inside him or if they were downloaded into his brain; if it was an accident or not. What I need to know is:
>When he reincarnated (which means, when his self, memories and what else, gained consciousness in that new body
and
>Was the body/kid alive?
The second is pretty clear as yes, that much can't be changed. The first, however, is where the question lies. The author can dance around this as much as he wants, but it will always end up in one of these 2 scenarios:
>There was another self that was replaced
>A grown man faked his infancy
You can't logically conceive another option, simply because one is the consequence of the other.

>What? Again, the japanese dude was inside Eru from the very beginning.
That was just actual speculation to show how deep the rabbit hole goes when you try to make sense outside of those two scenarios.
If it works as you said, then Eru must have faked his infancy.

>>159310598
Konosuba is /tg/ isekai
>Start off wanting to play it right but always have that guy in the party

>>159310911
But everyone in the party is That Guy

>>159310491
>Short pants with lady-like long shirt that closely resembles the one used by the girls right next to it, with long female boots.
Yep, definitely not a trap thing.
Also, the trap doesn't need to actively make people believe he is a girl, sometimes the author will make everyone around perceive him as a girl for the sake of pandering.

>>159310998
Exactly, but they are That Guy at different moments.

>>159310858
>Reincarnation is evil because I said
You have no idea how stupid you are.

>>159311339
I want you to quote me exactly where I said that incarnation is evil. If you can't, you just proved how much bullshit you're bringing to this discussion.

>>159309963
The magazine scanner puts that Megumin image on all their scans for some silly reason. I've seen a number of other scans with the same watermark.

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>>159289641
this is aots. calling it. i normally hate shota shit but MC being voiced by rie helps. and he's not an insufferable gary stu/shota on top of that. so that definitely helps.

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>>159301405
They remind you that you have no friends?

>>159289641
>designs a gun
>doesn't even shoulder it properly

>>159312388
it's a magic wand shaped like a gun. it doesn't use gunpowder to propel metal projectiles, and thus it does not require recoil correction.

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So, if you die (as an otaku) you get reincarnated in Finland?

So are they just mindless monsters or is there going to be a big bad?

>>159313556
Yes

>>159313556
I imagine it would be the aliens that gave them the robot technology after the main character crosses the /m/ event horizon in R&D

>>159313556
The castle walls are probably built out of dead bugs

>>159312549
why make a butt stock?

>>159289641
why the school did not confiscate this assault wand?

>>159313556
There is an evil human empire. The monsters are just monsters.

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>>159289641
>Echevalier
>when it's clearly Echevarria

Anglos everytime, changing names because they can't pronounce shit

>Friends call him El
>Subs have it as Ernie

am I missing something?

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>>159314658
Knowing the MC's mindset, pic related.

>>159314833
EL NESTI

>>159309920
>pretending to be innocent little girls

These girls have no shame huh, do they actually think people don't know they suck Yakuza dick to get roles?

>>159289641
their world ditched the path of firearms to focus on the path of giant robots

I think they made a good call

>>159291062
yes yes /ss/

>>159293908
MC is more Tatsuya than Tanya

>>159293719
basically they cut out all the non-mech padding

>>159302631
The girl behind or to the left Eru should have been the MC

>>159297274
>>159297343
to bad he's only mechsexual

ITT: people gettin triggered hard by mecha isekai.
ya'll seriously need to take a chill pill.

>>159306940
it's implied that it was a purely rebirth reincarnation

like he was a born and everything

>>159300306
so it can be /m/'s wet dream

>>159313556
kaijuus gonna kaijuu

>>159290331
she's dead, dont' grow attached, only the pilot of the shield knight and the red one live. and the red pilot lives because he runs away from the fight. Actually a number of big sis's classmates were supposed to be gored to death before Ernie's gary stu rescue, the anime has toned down the MuvLuv BETA style horror/violence a bit. (not that it was present much in the LN, but what little there was was pretty clearly edited out of ep 1 to make it more kid friendly)

>>159290299
>Seriously, most of Eru's motivations is "because I think it's cool"
>most

Nope. Literally all of his "innovations" are because he thinks it will be cool. I think the fact his idiocy works is what makes this the worst type of gary stu otaku wish fulfillment.

>>159295242
its much worse than some stupid duel. they cut out almost all the sickening garystu'ness of the MC making the first episode far more enjoyable to watch then it was to read.

>>159315945
Bait

>>159299701
don't worry. Ernie is a mecha-sexual. unless she suddenly becomes a robot he'll never so much as touch a hair on her head.

>Knight's & Magic's first episode rushes through plot beats so quickly that it unintentionally acts as a somewhat damning indictment of light novel storytelling conventions. Our hero Ernie amazes his friends and admirers with some new trick every four minutes, demonstrating remarkable magical prowess, absurd inventiveness, and even overwhelming cuteness. He jumps several grades at once, invents magical guns, and saves middle school students with his sheer awesomeness. It is a little hard to take Ernie's story seriously.

This show made me appreciate Re:Zero and Subaru even more.

>>159299938
Boys are for Futa x Trap doujins

>>159289641
Sounds boring

Oh god I want to fuck him so much. Somebody help.

>>159301815
Is that ZR?
I'm having confused boners about this character

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>Magic bombards are useless. Let's hit it with a battering ram.

How primitive.
At least it works.

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>>159289641
Did they really fuck up his magic gunblade in the anime and turned it into a generic looking gun?

>>159315357
Pretty sure you're missing the point

>>159320455

He wears a different uniform too.

Easier to animate perhaps?

>>159289641
You're thinking on too small of a scale. What if they used TWO wands, one in each hand? Now that would be something.

>>159309346
>>159309731
Actually Elves did it, king made a deal with them to protect their lands. Even our gary stu tatsuya MC has to spend a couple months timeskipped to figure out the ether reactors when he's hanging out with the elves, and even then, there isn't much he can do so he goes back to doing regular stuff like rockets.

I don't think I can properly judge the first episode because I read and enjoyed the novels, even if they're not great literature. The first episode was really compressed, even though I appreciate it skipping through a lot of the isekai boilerplate, though they shouldn't have had him code in Java if they wanted to be concise.

While I don't remember all the details the gun-rod seems even more pointless in the anime than the novels, I thought it had a bayonet or something. I think it did work better as a novel than an anime though.

>>159321793
You're telling me these robots aren't coded in Java?

Dropped

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What did she mean by this?

>>159300126
is this motherfucking c#

>>159322095
No, C# doesn't have synchronized, it's Java.

>>159321793
There WAS supposed to be a blade on it. No clue why the anime removed it.

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>>159321793
>>159322501
And forgot my image. Woops.

>>159322533
Even the LN described a bayonet and the whole point of it being the convenience of not needing to hold both a sword and staff.
Why the fuck did it turn into a gun.

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I can't believe this exists and that it's being adapted into an anime.

>>159306637
Is this pasta or are you legit retarded?

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>>159322806
No clue. The episode talks about mixing in a sword's ability to cut, but for some reason it's gone.
How can that gun be used to cut anything?

>>159323049
If you look at the anime gun, it clearly has a place for a blade to slot in.

>>159290433
Sure thing, nee-san! Can we try paizuri first?

>>159300563
More like be totally blown away by the code.

>>159301844
Why did you capitalize Combine, though?

>>159289641
Same reason as to why they were able to develop gaint moveable robot as weapon. They probably spend to much time on the robot then caring about the stick.

>>159309957
Juu, karmee kankkunen päällä.

>>159324519
cyka blyatt

>>159320455
Aaaand dropped. Fucking idiots.

>>159322825
Don't worry, nobody will ever entertain your fan fiction.

>>159324590
https://ci.memecdn.com/3069647.jpg

>>159289641
Didn't it take like centuries for that to develop?

>>159324733
Mc is a "genius" who's born once every millenia

>>159324753
>Mc is a "genius"
Typical.

>>159307527
How can a gun not hit the same spot while fixed to a table?

>>159289641
Because the demon and bugs eat people and there's an evil human empire stopping any advancements.

>>159325767
Because the first shot rattles the barrel a little.

>>159301349
>yfw programming doesn't work like that

>>159325774
But empires are supposed to aid advancement by facilitating movement of goods, people, and ideas.

>>159326011
>buying into their bullshit

>>159290356
>why does the mecha otaku design good mecha
I couldn't tell you

>>159325774
Looking a the fact that they have a motherfucking student city wich is huge and beautiful, I'd say that the evil empire and the monsters are terrible at their job. They litterally have mechanical engineering courses and somehow their engineers can't figure out things so simple to make that even someone with no knowledge about it can figure it out ?
The only reason why they haven't made it by themselves is because the author didn't think it through, that's it.
>>159326806
Mecha otaku =/= robotic engineer
Moreover, we have no working giant robots in our world that are viable for military use. While in their world they had been using those for centuries. Reading comics about lion doesn't make you a lion expert.

>>159325767
>How can a gun not hit the same spot while fixed to a table?
Several reasons.
1. Engineering issues meant the gun parts rattle unpredictably.
2. Ammo used have varying amount of energy for every shot, like with hand loaded powder or low quality ammo.
3. Black powder leaving residue that affect the trajectory after each shot.
4. This is a weird one. One gun tested by the military has the first shot of a gun being different in trajectory than every other round fired in the same magazine. Something to do with temperature differences in the barrel.

Really, bullets that shoot straight is the norm in the modern day but it is a luxury not that long ago.

>>159325767
Poor quality steel can cause the barrel to warp after firing

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>>159322533
LN image. Manga got the design down well.

>>159329819
Wouldn't a pistol grip work better on a one handed gun? I feel like aiming that thing straight in front of you would put your wrist at an awkward angle.

>>159329859
More importantly, why even go for a rifle shape ? It doesn't add anything to it since aiming is completely different and recoil non-existent. If you want something that allow you to both cast spells and can be used in melee, then just stick your orb on a sword's guard or on the base of the blade. The balance will be better than a bayonet, the weapon will be lighter because you don't have that useless rifle wand adding weight and it will be easier to carry around.

>>159314778

No, it's Echeverry/Etcheverry

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>>159289641
>mecha freak dies and happens to reincarnate into a world with mecha, where he is jesus and adored by everyone

Isekai was a mistake.

>>159289641
Should I pick this up?
Be honest please

>>159330718
Don't. Rewatch Dunbine instead.

>>159330359
>He won't be reincarnated into a world with mechas
Your whole life was a mistake.

>>159330718
Read the first chapters of the manga then hope the rest isn't as rushed at the first episode

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>>159330359
>>159330792
I'm pretty sure this was the plot of Muv-Luv.

>>159330828
>You aren't a trap
>You don't have the knowledge to build a mech
>You will suffer eternally, never forgetting the events transpired and never knowing rest.
>Sumika
Whats the point?

>>159330718
The MC is rapable, so yes, it's worth

>>159290826
>The only isekai that does this right is Release that Witch,
Haven't read it, but Drifters does it right.

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>>159320706
>What if they used TWO wands, one in each hand?
Knights & Magic is literally pic related.

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>>159329859
Remember, it's a sword, too.

>>159329972
This is the correct option, assuming of course the orb is really all you need. Maybe the orb's actually a rod hidden inside or something and it's unpleasant to touch directly.

ch 1-9 of the manga in one episode

It's not a good series at all but maybe I'll pick it up and watch it at 2x speed once it catches up with the manga

>>159331081

9 chapters in 1 episode and you want to watch it faster?

>>159289641
maybe recoil?

If magic had no recoil, then staffs may have control benifits

>>159331107
It's not a good series, just a timewaster.

>not watching mediocre anime at 2x speed and shit anime you got baited into watching at 4x

>>159289641
First of all, early fire lances were around in the 1100s, and crossbows, if you took away the bow, already looks like a gun; the first real "guns-looking" guns were around in the 1500s.
Second of all, a caster isn't an infantryman, they're walking artillery and oftentimes don't need to aim, either because their spells are area-of-effect, meant to hit a general area, or just home on their targets.

>>159331019
This page is the reason I want dual wielding in every isekai story.

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>>159321793
>>159322501
>>159322533
>>159322806
>>159323049
>>159329819
Did people not finish watching the episode? There is clearly a bayonet at the end of his gun during the fight sequence and he even uses it to cut shit with it.

It does look different from the LN & manga designs posted prior, but you could make the argument that it's lighter than those huge looking blades so it's easier to aim. Assuming it even requires aim at all, because if it doesn't then this anon >>159329972 had it right.

Also it's safe to say it's probably detachable (or I wouldn't even put retractable past the anime even though that wouldn't make much sense) so he probably just removed it for academy classes, but it was still used in combat.

>>159331237
I mean the design works as a sword/gun hybrid, sort of. Holding it like a cop would hold a revolver back in the 80s (90s?) instead of as an actual rifle irks me, though.

>>159331019
Is this an edit or something

>>159331237
Yeah that's actually much lighter and more believable than the huge dumb bayonet from the manga and LN. And yeah having it detachable makes more sence since that's how bayonet are supposed to be used. But I rest my case on the rifle thing, even with a normal sized bayonet like this one it would be much lighter to have the whole thing be just one normal sword of the same lenght and put the orb on the crossguard or at the base of the blade.
Props to the anime for making it more believable at least.

I really hate anime fantasy with magic stuck in medieval era, you'd expect them to be more advance since they are literally capable of doing magic shit.

>>159331376
No.

This show ticks all the boxes in the cliche checklist. I love it.

>>159331399
There's a reason wizards are portrayed as a rare recluse oddity.

>>159331399
Other way around, why would you need to industrialise and epic science man when you can just call the druid to Create Water instead of irrigrate, ask a Wizard use Sending instead of inventing the telegraph, and the cleric to Cure Light Wounds (which is enough to bring back a person with a shredded torso) instead of studying surgery?

>>159331317
>Purposefully design a stock on the gun
>don't use it

>>159325767
Before we figured out rifling, bullets kind of just went wherever they felt like.

>>159331456

You can always do magic engineering instead of standard engineering. Different means to reach the same ends.

>>159331497
Rifling was only discovered by accident. Gunpowder was dirty and the soot clogged inside the barrel, so they put slits in barrels to catch the dirt. But straight slits don't catch all the crap and ring grooves make barrels explode. So some guy put spiral slits in a barrel so it'd catch all the dirt but he started scoring headshots all the time so he was burned as a witch and that's how riflign was born.

>>159331456
exactly, they literally have everything at their disposal, why not have them do it more efficiently and on mass instead. they have magic academy, why not use it for good instead of mastering fireball 24/7. Coal revolutionized how the world works, why can't a god tier ability wouldn't be able too.

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>>159325813

Clearly you haven't read your SICP today:

> We are about to study the idea of a computational process. Computational processes are abstract beings that inhabit computers. As they evolve, processes manipulate other abstract things called data. The evolution of a process is directed by a pattern of rules called a program. People create programs to direct processes. In effect, we conjure the spirits of the computer with our spells.

>A computational process is indeed much like a sorcerer's idea of a spirit. It cannot be seen or touched. It is not composed of matter at all. However, it is very real. It can perform intellectual work. It can answer questions. It can affect the world by disbursing money at a bank or by controlling a robot arm in a factory. The programs we use to conjure processes are like a sorcerer's spells. They are carefully composed from symbolic expressions in arcane and esoteric programming languages that prescribe the tasks we want our processes to perform.


This is entirely reasonable. A computational process is just harvesting the laws of physics to do useful work. "Magic" in fantasy stories is just how their laws of physics work.

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>>159331496
Yeah, that's what I mean. It's fucking silly.
The design in >>159329819 is even worse, though. The animu version seems to have a foregrip and sights.

Fucking nips and their noguns.

>>159331549
Honestly, ATLA is the show that handles this the best. It was a world that had magical powers at all times, and you see that reflected in almost every piece of technology.
Then the fire assholes skipped straight to tanks, lore be damned.
Then they shat all over the lore in the """sequel"""

>>159331549
And why would magic engineering advance faster, again? You do realize "magic shit" only helps if it's common enough to be universal (casters don't want to obselete themselves)? Why study on how to move stones and the action of levers in building if you can Wall of Stone and create an entire castle in an afternoon out of nothing?

>>159331602
Because they don't need to you idiot. Technology was created out of problems that were unsolveable at the time. Irrigration channels spawned a lot of engineering knowledge. Bridge building needed to save on bricks that were heavy and expensive to transport. Medicine was only relevant because people got ill and died and nobody knew how to stop it. Surgery and cleaning was a thing because you couldn't have your face torn off and have a guy wave his hands to make it reappear. Electric generators and the equivalence of magnetism and elecricty was only discovered because you couldn't have someone cast Call Lightning.

>>159331549
You don't understand, anon. The fundamental problems that pushed us towards our solutions simply don't exist when magic is involved.

>>159331667
what? literally, since ancient time human finds way to use and make their tools to make work more efficient, we didn't make axes because it was cool, we made it cause cutting trees is easier. the same goes for magic, it's a tool, people will one way or another will find a way to make work easier.