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Will Hit job to Jiren the Ayy lmao?
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The end of the tournament will be a 3-way stand off between Jiren, Hit, and Gohan
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>>159267065
He's so fucking ugly
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Jiren the Ayy Lmao
Ayy lmao
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HITTO NICE HITTO
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>>159267203
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv13gl0a-FA

This is the new Dragon Ball Super theme song
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>>159267203
I bet you screech whenever you watch a show with transformation sequences.
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Why is she perfect?
Caulifa a shit.
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>>159267438
Who?
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>>159267203
why are they reusing animations?
are they saving up for the real deal or do they not give a shit?
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>>159267203
So you would rather have shitty animation instead of fine-to-good recycled animation
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>80 fighters
>all of them are brawlers
So where are the wizards and telepaths and shit. Sasuga TOEI
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Hey, Toyocucks! We might have recycled our animation, but at least it's original and not traced like yours! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>159267065
Jiren the Grayy lmao is gonna rape Gocuck and then proceed to be obliterated by a CHADgeta and CHADhan tag-team.
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>>159267554
I would rather have new animation that isn't shit.
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>>159267638
stop falseflagging ningen
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Was 18 a virgin before Krillin? This is really important.
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>>159267759
>a slut that looks that good and is 18

yeah no
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>>159267759
probably
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>>159267759
Dr. Gero rode her while she was in coma
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>>159267673
>New animation
>Super's budet
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Reminder
>even with the reused animation they're having a hard time
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>>159267759
Nope.
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>>159267759
Every single girl on Dragon Ball preserved their hymen unil their true lover came.
That includes Chi-Chi, Bulma, Videl and many others.
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>>159267850
How can the budget be that small, it's fucking DRAGON BALL, are jews working in toei?
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>>159267519
Its clear they're saving for the big fights instead of the no-name fucking filler fighters of the season.

Who really gives a shit about the wolves after we saw them fight the first time.
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How will they push Magetta out of bounds?
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Reminder
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>>159267967
It's a show packed with EXTREMELY fast paced fights from different angles and lots of episodes. Not even the most popular show could handle that combo.
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>>159268061
Hit will hurt his feelings by giving everyone a donut but him
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>>159267967
they don't need to put effort into it
it sells itself
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>>159267967
Most of the profit comes from merchadising, just slap 70 new fighters in a new arc and mass-sell them
Be glad they're properly (To Toei's standars) ither fighters like Napapa, Nanirama or Nink
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You can now chose goku next power up what you will chose?
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I have a feeling we'll be losing a fighter next week. my money is on 18
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>>159268145
Animating fighters*
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>>159268112
then why did DBZ look great most of the time? don't nitpick a few scenes
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I honestly just want a Golden Freeza vs Hit moment. Can Freeza actually hurt someone that SSBKKx10 couldn't?
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>Jiren

IT'S GERAN YOU FUCKING TOYOPEDRO
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>>159268171
he turns into a gorilla and the stage breaks into small chunks that they have to jump between
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>>159268171
super saiyan devil
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>>159268174
Tenshinjobber goes first
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>>159268210
wasn't that when japan had the boom and was ging to buy America and cyberpunk dystopia future?
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>>159267941
>Every single girl on Dragon Ball preserved their hymen unil their true lover came.
Videl should have kept hers.

Chi-Chi arguably too.
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Jesus Christ this episode was bad.
>First 8 minutes are even more padding
>The big start of the tournament is just a bunch of explosions and clashes
>Cuts to the gods/angels on the sidelines because the visuals get so boring so quickly
>oh gee this spinning robot is cool. Let's use another few minutes talking about it.
>~2 minutes used for zen-oh acting like a baby using his sweet new ipad app
>The independent people go off and fight randomly, it even cuts to the exact same loop of 18 and Vegeta repeatedly
>Weaker people jump up really high and fire some techniques down, only for it to do nothing. Sasuga chikara no taikai.
>Nobodies fighting nobodies, wow so waku waku.
>Pointless drama with a chokehold, goku literally just flexes as the solution for the climax for the episode

The entire tournament is going to be 90% padding until enough people are eliminated for the fight to make any fucking sense. Why did the writers even put 10 warriors from each universe if it's just going to be senseless loops and meaningless fights between nobodies for almost all of it?

Gohan was talking about how the center would be the most sought-after area since it's farthest from the edge. But what do you know, they can
just stand there and watch everyone else fight until a few people see them specifically.

This was probably the worst episode of any fighting shounen I've seen, period
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>>159268224
It's Jared you pig
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>>159267967
precure?
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Is there a link to the thread when the episode aired? I'd love to see some reactions.
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>>159268291
>Chi-Chi arguably too.
No.
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>>159268210
Because most of the moments were "still", a.k.a the whole unecessary long moments DBZ was infamous for, like the staring contests or endless screaming. It's way easier to animate like that.
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>>159268337
Yes?

Gohan's only really been great in the Cell arc, and Goku could've kicked his ass anyways.
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Where did Buu get the mag and drink from?
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Reminder that the manga and anime are two separate canons, and that arguing about which one is canon; or which one is worse is pointless since they both are canon. Just pick which one you enjoy the most whether it be the anime or manga and enjoy it.
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>>159268291
are you said because you got cucked and your waifu lost her virginity to chadhon?
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>>159268224
James?
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>>159268171
True Super Saiyan God.
Or
Limit Broken.

Have the SSG aura and hair but SSJ style.
Or
The standup hair from the new poster but with a red god aura.
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>>159267579
probably hiding or being hayai
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>>159268391
Dude your Gohanfag meme addled brain is making you reply to the wrong person.
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>>159267941
The most extreme case is Mai, she waited almost 70 years.
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>>159268331
I second that. I'm always in deep sleep when the episode airs.
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>>159268417
Reminder that you are an idiot and since you ignores what canon means you are supposed to shut the fuck up and die.
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>>159268309
Jared? As in Rare Jare Jared?
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>>159268391
What?
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KANOUSEI DOA WA
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>>159268394
he already knew how to open rifts between dimensions.
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I want to cuddle No.18
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>>159268394
It's a gag, anon

Also he can just materialize them with magic
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>>159268550
she only has a thing for bald midgets
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>>159267203
embrassing
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>>159268492
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>>159268394
I think thats Either Krillen or Yamcha
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>>159268481
She was always busy plotting evil, so I don't see her having her way with someone.
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>>159268494
as in
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Hit will abandon U6 along with Frost once the number of fighters thin.
Then they join Team U7 and we get Frost/Frieza, Hit/Goku and maybe Vegeta/Cabba tag team if he goes along.
Most of the U6 fighters will be spared from destruction besides maybe Botamo, who is an honorless faggot thus far and doesn't seem to have any respect for U7
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5fZmZGGhyA
>"Here, the technique of the gods is finished"

Are you ready for the ultimate god form?
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>>159268659
mai was pretty damn great in future trunks world.
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>>159268240
Your wish has been granted
http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Demonic_Super_Saiyan
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>We really were the Limit Breaker x Survivor.
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>>159267519
>Saving money for "real fights"

You'd think after almost 100 episodes Toei cucks would just admit they aren't going to spend any real money on this shit.
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>>159268492
>since you ignores what canon means
Okay, pedro. Continue frothing at the mouth like an autist instead of enjoying things like the rest of us. We'll be in the back, eating popcorn and enjoying the show; and I'm not even talking about DBS.
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>>159268690
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>>159268394
In the place where only the best villains can obtain them
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>>159268679
>Botamo
What? He was just doing his job at U6 saga.
Dude is a nice guy, was even comforting Magetta.
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>>159268331
http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/159214320/#159215500
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>>159267967

MAXIMIZE PROFITS
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>>159268690
>>159268771
>fanart
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>>159267203
>Gohan's massive hand
Foreshadowing?
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>>159268820
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>>159268771
>Goku fucking steals' Gohan's power up
Not like we could expect anything else from this faggot.
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>>159268820
>Trunks's festish is threesomes.
Of course. It's painfully obvious that he wants Vegeta and Gohan to fill his holes.
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>>159268803
Buu is my favourite bad guy next to Freeza.
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>>159268771
>Ripped shirt
Yeah right, Toei doesnt believe in that anymore
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>>159268659
She was also too much of a prude to do that.
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I'm calling it: Goku will go bald for his next transformation
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>>159268917
SS4 Gogeta musta been happy
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>>159267203
Doesn't Dragonball reuse animation all the damn time?
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>>159267203
>reused animation

NO ONE HAS EVER DONE THAT. NO ONE HAS EVER DONE THAT IN THE HISTORY OF ANIME.
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>>159268805
This far, in the tourney.
Strategic fighters like Hit would've gone for U7 immediately since he knows his enemy and knows himself, but he didn't.
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>>159268848
Oy vey, shut the tournament down!
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>>159268171
>New form
At this point I'd rather him come up with new attacks. A homing kamehameha would be funny.
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>>159268697
>>159268962
yes :D
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>>159268918
Stay mad, faggot.
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>>159268917
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>>159267662
Most likely outcome tbqh
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>>159268820
Thank you very much kind sir. I couldn't find it because Dragon Ball super was put in the name field. Whoops. I noticed that the thread name had Dragon ball super; but usually they don't include dragon ball super anywhere in the thread. How would I go about finding a thread like that in the future if it wasn't put in the title or the description? Guess we're lucky it was put in there that time?
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So is ToP gonna be the final ride? I honestly don't see where they can go from here.
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>>159268958
This offcial art for the ToP.
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>>159269029
SS4 > SSB
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>>159268997
Toeishill SEETHING!
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>>159269027
Hi, Necku
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>>159268820
>F Mais fetish is iron rods
no wonder she likes trunks
dem swords man
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>>159268481
Mai waited more and got the best husbando, it was absolutely worth it
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>>159269063
I refuse to belive Toei will let Gokusa take her shirt off
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>>159269046
spin offs with other universes, toys , vgames.

they should be handing out napkins for toriyama to write notes on until he dies.
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>>159268889
Gohan new form + ED focus=top 5 at least.
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>>159268417
Fuck off, moralshitter
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>>159269023
Krillin already did it.
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>>159269046
There are still endless possibilities with the 8 universes
The four exempt universes can be featured in upcoming arcs
And so on
Even though DBS is having its QUALITY moments, it's still a major money machine in Japan, so they won't end it so soon
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I WANT TO HAVE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH ANDROID 18
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>>159267203
>that reused animation of Goku vs Furry from the OP
Since the OP is mostly Goku vs Jiren is Toei going to reuse that aswell?
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>>159269068
You wish
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>>159269068
I like SSB better because of the unique aura and that it's an energy control tecnique and not technically a genetic transformation, we already have enough Saiyan snowflake forms.
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So what is Goku's limit break going to be? Omnislash?
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kiero
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>>159269116
It looks like he's gonna lose it.
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>>159269209
#18 is pure sex
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Will Vegeta pull another Namek and cry?
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>>159269068
SS4 can't erase things from existence so no.
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>>159269242
>we already have enough Saiyan snowflake forms.
>blue with sparkles
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>>159269243
Omnikaioken X 100 Kamehameha
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>>159269091
>best husbando
Yeah right.
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ENDURE IT BULMA
FOR THE SAKE OF THE EARTH
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>>159269243
Rubbber Super saiyain capable of absoring hits and using them as his own power
>>159269273
i'll be waiting patiently then, the ost better be good
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>>159267967
>oy vey my reused animation furries will do
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>>159267941
Hymens don't work that way
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>>159268820
what's vegeta's fetish
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>>159269282
Waiting for the "I was raped by a precure..... when I was just a little boy...."
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>>159269276
an inspiration for manlets everywhere
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Best form
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>>159267203

You'd have to be seriously autistic to notice 1-2 second animations being reused periodically. Holy shit can't you people just sit back and enjoy the show without finding some little nitpick to be upset about?
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>>159269298
It's a specialist form like Rosé, can only achieve it with Whis' training because it's a tecnique. It's similar to USSJ in the specialist way, except they work differently.
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>>159269360
kek
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>>159269402
t. Toyocuck
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>>159269402
my nigga
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>>159269412
Don't bother replying to bait, anon.
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>>159268296
Same. Literally none of it makes any sense and is so poorly made it may as well be some fan animation for a fanfic.
On top of that EVERY SINGLE member of universe 7 besides 17 and Frieza have fought in the WMAT so they have dealt with almost the exact same rule set before. It shouldn't worry them.
I literally just skimmed through the episode in less than 5 minutes because of how dry and shit it was, and this is after it being built up for what, 3 months now or more?
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>Gohan doesn't even use a technique
>just swells his hand to comical proportions and fires a generic beam that probably missed
>surprised that it wasn't enough to take down 5 other fighters

I thought Gohan was supposed to be smart.
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>>159269200
>The four exempt universes can be featured in upcoming arcs
I''m honestly expecting them to be the final boss for ToP. The whole thing just being a huge elimination round for the real tournament set in the location in the new ending.
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>>159269412
I don't get complaints about reused animation.

It's like a majority of posters here are underage pedros that were too young to experience the Namek Saga when Goku fights frieza for 40~ episodes.
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>>159269414
Also similar to Golden Frieza or Frieza's previous forms, he made those himself to conserve power, not a hidden generic thing.
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>>159269173
Reminder that the manga and anime are two separate canons, and that arguing about which one is canon; or which one is worse is pointless since they both are canon. Just pick which one you enjoy the most whether it be the anime or manga and enjoy it.
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>>159269218
That was such a dumb moment
>This clock isn't evil, so you can't sense it. I'll kill you with it
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>>159267065
Inevitable twist; the only universes that get destroyed is the one that wins the battle, and the four that were left out of the running. The Gods wanted to find who was the strongest of the bunch and get rid of potential opponents, while forcing them all to give their hardest and hold nothing back under the assumption that even second place would be disaster, AND for the four that were left out to not go about gathering a resistance in time to stop them.
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>>159269491
Mystic Masenko soon
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>>159267203
>Toeifags will defend this
Embarrassing. This is shaping up to be some real shit.
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>>159269209
I read that in 16's voice. Jesus christ that was amazing.
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>>159268106
Do you think we'll ever see any of these guys again after this? U6 seems like the only one.
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>>159269528
The only true canon is Toriyama's toilet wipes and napkin scribbles from Denny's.
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Gohan is getting killed.
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>>159269369
Femdom
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>>159268820
what website is this from
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>>159267967
Well, it's Toei, so yeah. This is the company that has the most popular franchise in Japan, One Piece, and refuse to do it any justice. Other studios with weekly releases manage just fine, but Toei's do not. They do barely anything and get praised for the occasional shiny thing because "well hey it's not that bad right now haha keep it up!"
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Dragonball Super is a fucking stupid name
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>>159268296
>Why did the writers even put 10 warriors from each universe if it's just going to be senseless loops and meaningless fights between nobodies for almost all of it?
This is exactly my problem ever since the tournament was announced. Battle Royale is a terrible rule set for Dragon Ball characters. Should've been small teams fighting each other or 1vs1s.
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>>159269664
name one (1) better name
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I need more Chi-Chi in overalls.
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>>159269715
Dragonball S
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>>159269374
Nigga who would complain about that?
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>>159269664
Dragonball Z is just as stupid. What does the Z even stand for?
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>>159269090
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>>159269613
I'm sure U6 will be back, although I hope we never see Caulifla and Kale again. Maybe the pride troopers.
I can almost see U4 coming back, but I wouldn't be surprised if Grand Priest snitches on them for scheming
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>>159269715
Dragonball Ultra
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>random guy struggles with BASE Goku
>so Goku goes SSGSS

Reminder that it's as stupid as Vegeta allowing Babidi control him and then fusing with Goku to go SS3 Majin Vegetto in Babidi's ship because Yakon was too troublesome for base Goku
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>>159269754
Super sounds immature and cheesy. At least the Z is intimidating and feels like the title of an action show
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>>159269754
Tori wanted to put an end to the series, so he suggested Z because it's the last letter of the alphabet
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>>159269730
Is she not wearing a shirt?
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>>159269613
I want to see more trapbun.

Please.
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>>159269715
Dragonball Special would have even been better
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>>159269772
Ultra? As like Ultradragonball wiki?
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>>159269772
eeeh
>>159269732
wtf
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So, I've got a question. The Pride Troopers. Why the fuck are they named after kitchen appliances? It seems so arbitrary and random, and contrary to the usual easy to digest food pun names.

Like, are people gonna start making pride trooper OCs named fuckin, Microwave? Dishwasher? Fridge? Chime in with your best.
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>>159269831
Nope.
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>>159269824
>"Z is intimidating! That other one is immature and cheesy..."
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>>159269874
too hard to pronounce
it must be universal
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>>159269656
https://en.shindanmaker.com/224642
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>>159269897
>It seems so arbitrary and random, and contrary to the usual easy to digest food pun names.
Are you THAT retarded?
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>>159269910
Don't deliberately missunderstand me. Z is the title of what sounds like an action show.
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>>159269863
but thats just a flat chested girl
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>>159269754
Zumanji.

Toriyama wanted to incorporate elements of a board game that came to life starring Robin Williams. Unfortunately his editor advised he instead stick with Goku beating up bad guys for dragon balls.
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>>159269732
Sorry that already exists
http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_S
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is there any reality where Goku isn't the final one standing?
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>>159268240
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>>159269519

DBZ's gimmick was ALWAYS long drawn out fights with the same punches and kicks played on loop. Occasionally they'd zoom out and piccolo or someone would be surprised and explain how "It's impossible how much power I'm feeling right now" then they zoom back in and go back to the same animation loop of teleporting punches and kicks. Repeat ad nauseaum for 30+ episodes until the bad guy died. THAT was DBZ.
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>>159269715
Dragonball Next
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>>159269784
It really isn't. Why risk getting a ring out when you can go max power and escape with 100% certainty?
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>>159269863
>will most likely be the first one to get thrown off-stage from the 5 manband against goku in the next ep, or the episode will start with them already being eliminated
>wont even have a single line of dialog
>we will never see it again
meanwhile
>teletubi idol vs vegeta fight is gonna spawn over nearly the entire tournament
Why must we suffer like this
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>>159269784
>Vegeta spending 8 minutes punching the same person to no effect

God damn it.
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>>159269715
Dragon Ball Pedro.

Alternatively, Dragon Ball Spic or Spic Ball Z
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>>159269980
I'm also hoping for a masculine vagina instead of a feminine penis.
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>>159269715
Dragon Ball GX: Generation Next
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>>159270006
I'm sure the Mexicans who thinks Gohan is the pinnacle of power levels think he's gonna come out as the MVP
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>>159269715

Super Dragonball
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>>159269491
Thoughts on the episode?
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>>159270126
im fine with it being a girl or boy.
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>>159270006
I hope not.
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>>159270051
Name would be confusing for foreigners. Super is a word everyone in the world knows and uses, while Z and GT are even easier because they are just letters.
>>159270098
GT already exists nigga
>>159270128
yugioh already took it
>>159270160
Nice, but Dragon Ball must be the first words on the title, it's a branding rule.
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>>159269682
People would end up bitching if it was just ANOTHER FUCKING TOURNAMENT WITH NOTHING NEW. I agree though, I really wish they at least didn't have people using the excuse that 'they're just trying to save all that effort for when shit goes down'.. In my opinion, I thought that when the tournament starts, shit was supposed to be going down?

Look at the Chimera Arc in Hunter x Hunter. They handled the whole 'it's only been 10 minutes' fucking amazingly. I imagined it being kinda like that, where we shift perspectives in a lot smoother way; and shit being slowed down so that we can get a grasp on how fucking fast everyone is actually going... But instead we get this cluster fuck? I legitimately put my hands on my face when I saw the same damn 18 fighting that bitch being looped like 3 times in a row, let alone all the fluff in the middle like them showing all the characters yet-a-fucking-gain.
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>>159269908
Oh okay
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What is the series after Super going to be like?
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>>159270160
Sounds like the prequel of Super Dragon Ball Z
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>>159270050
Yup. If anything, I feel like a lot of the fights in Super have plenty of move details. DBZ spammed the fast kickpunch exchange a lot more.
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>>159269715
Dragonball súper
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>>159269715
DragonballS
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>>159270207
Dragon Ball N(ingen)
Just saiyan because Zamasu was right
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>>159269715
Dragonball X
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>>159270231
Nonexistent because Masako will be dead
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>>159270058
Wow you are really retarded

If that guy can't insta-defeat base Goku, any Goku's transformation can insta defeat him. There's no risk, just going SS and beat him.
He can also use shunkan-ido so he would never ever fall off the arena

Also SSB is supposed to drain a lot of stamina
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>>159269715
Dragonball Y
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>>159270282
Dragonball but Zamasu's are the protagonists and they win their fight in the future
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>>159270381
>Dragon Ball Why?
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>>159270358
You must be delusional if you think they would stop making Dragonball for any reason. It prints money and always will
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>>159269980
>but thats just a flat chested girl

Now where have I heard that again?
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>>159267203
>tfw you know Dragonball as an animation spectacle is fully dead and you are only watching to see how much deeper the grave can get.
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>>159270346
>"B-but they HAVE to reuse animation because of the fast p-paced coomplex fights"
Kek, yeah, this slide show sure is some complex animation
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Geekdom is ONE OF THE 5%!!! YES!!!
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>>159270358
>Goku gets punched in the throat really hard and it changes his voice
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>>159269715
DragonBall God
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>>159270440
To be fair, Dragonball has traditionally shied away from generic "boy that looks like girl" animu crap. Not that this could be it.
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>>159270435

then why did they stop making dragonball for 20 years until they made super?
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>>159270282
6.5/10
>>159270326
I get that one. X is the antecedent of Z, and since Super happens BEFORE the ending of Z, it's a reasonable way to name it. Nice.
>>159270267
nooooooooooo D:<
>>159270259
maybe when it gets localized to Pedrosville.
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>>159270068
pls no


not like this

at least one more episode
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Dorangon Booru Goddo
DRAGON BALL G
DBG
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>>159268213
>SSBxKK10
>just gives Hit some ouchies
Toei was a mistake.
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>>159269613

Depends how popular some of them get I'd imagine.
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>>159270453
Literally every fight in DBZ was the same kickpunch exchange with cuts to bursts representing crashing in the air. ODB had the least of it, but it was still present in later fights near the end.
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>>159270126
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>>159270594
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>>159270572
GT effectively killed the franchise until then.
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>>159270442
>this fight was the peak of the show
>followed by the one time Gohan snaped the fuck out and actually lived out to his potential
It doesnt matter how hard super tries, it'll never reach this much hype
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>>159270381
Pokémon Y is using it.
Also Y is hard to pronounce.
>>159270510
Nice, we can add a nice touch by calling it Kami so we don't trigger catholics.
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>>159270376
Goku only realized he needed to transform when they were already on the very edge of the arena, and if he didn't go Blue to overpower the orc dude instantly there would still be a risk of him falling. Goku not using IT is a massive plot hole though, I agree.
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>>159270638
Hit realized that he could do better, though. That was when his adrenaline actually kicked in.
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>>159270648
True, although I wasn't defending Z in particular. But I still think that Z has better choreography of the overall fight. Even if the exchanges look like sped up slideshows, the overall direction was great. The direction in a lot of these Super fights has been rather boring.

Also, modern animation techniques should allow for more frames to be drawn quicker than when Z was being made.
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>>159270572
>>159270674
If db took a 20 year hiatus because gt was so shit, then just imagine how quickly the next series will come out having Super been received well
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>>159270669
WEW
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>>159270682
>Goku only realized he needed to transform when they were already on the very edge of the arena
So you get the scene is retarded
Good

>if he didn't go Blue to overpower the orc dude instantly there would still be a risk of him falling
Why are you lying anon? SS Goku is literally 50 times stronger than base Goku (the one struggling with that guy), there's no point on use SSB when SS, SS2 or SS3 is enough.
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So what did /a/ think of Broly God and Gok(you)
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>>159270669
furfags work too fucking quick. You all deserve to die
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>>159269682
>Should've been small teams fighting each other or 1vs1s.

We're essentially getting that anyway. The only reason for the 80 character battle royal format is to give everyone something to do while Goku 1v1's the bad guy of the week.
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>>159270870
>Fuses with the audience

That's so fucking stupid. Way too meta to be taken seriously
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Weekly reminder that Yoshifumi Fukushima was a mistake
(he is a scriptwriter, infamous for this retardation)
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>>159270800
I agree, I just find that most people complaining about the exchanges seem to have forgotten that DBZ was literally the same way, and that those aren't the problem with the fights. Not on their own, anyway.
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>IT WAS AUDIENCEKU ALL THIS TIME
How gogetafags will recover?
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>>159269715
Dragonball 3: The Legend of Mr. Dragonball
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>>159270870
Pretty cool, I guess. Super Saiyan Broly is still the best, though.
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>>159267967
Reminder that Dragonball was infamous for a long time for having stills and no animations staring at each other or charging up for a lot of the episodes as filler.

It's either that or reused animation, we just have to live with it.
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>>159270864
Reminder that Saiyans are fighting at 1/10th of their overall strength due to the arena simulating birth planet gravity on everyone.
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>>159270870
I like Broly God's form in motion better than the other Super Saiyan forms honestly.
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>>159270376
>>159270682
>Uses instant transmission
>Transmissions him and the person grappling him because he didnt break free
>Gets dragged the fuck off the stage anyways because he didnt overwhelm him in the first place since he didn't know if even SSJ could have completely overwhelmed him enough for him to let go in the split second he realized he was about to be donkeykong'd

or

>Uses SSJ or anything under SSG
>Person grappling him gets phased, but not enough to let go
>Gets donkeykong'd off the stage with him regardless
>HAHA SORRY I GUESS I UNDERESTIMATED HIM AND THOUGHT JUST SSJ WOULD DO; AND I WANTED TO SAVE MY STAMINA HAHAHA SORRY BEERUS IM SURE GOHAN WILL SAVE THE DAY!

Ok.
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>>159270093
1 minute actually :^)
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>>159270870
Is there a reason this is titled Z instead of Super?
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>there's already art of the new furry trash
>still no female Pride Trooper art (at least none that I can find)
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>>159271021
At least we get a burst of cool shit every once in a while.
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Take "Broli God"

Scrap those muscles

Regular SS eyes

No green color


This is SS3 design now. Do you like it?
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>>159270870
Why does Broly keep getting rehashed?
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>>159271124
The DBS brand is shit
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>>159270835
> imagine how quickly the next series will come out having Super been received well

everyone HATES super though. People are tuning out faster and faster than ever
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>>159270873
eva sucks
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>>159271161
Autists love him because they can relate to his sperge outs.
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>>159271161
Why not?
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>>159271061
I 100% understand why they are reusing so much animation. Anyone who keeps up with the animation production of Super would have easily seen this coming. My problem is though that this occurred in the FIRST episode of the tournament. The hype was at a maximum last week. They needed to make a huge first impression with this episode and then get on with the animation fodder, but they blew it too soon. The NEP has almost no new animation (seriously).
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>>159271164
>tfw Dragon Ball Z gets more brand recognition than super
They might had as well call it ''Dragon Ball Z: Super''
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>>159271131
You could always make some Prider Trooper art.
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>>159271161
cos whites and latinos hate him
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>>159270163
I was exciting going in and I was a fool. I'm 28 now and you would think that close to twenty years of watching Dragonball I'd be quick to recognize padding and filler. It's clear that the shitters from the other universes aren't going to go down without a concentrated effort. Despite not having names they have to be billed as the cream of the crop and it was stupid for me or for anyone to expect that the bulk of them would be DQ'ed in the first episode. The ToP appears to want to throw some focus onto what they're doing so as not to give the spotlight to U7 until it begins to come down to brass tacks.

I was disappointed with the animation quality but I recognize that they're saving the budget for the more impressive fights/characters and can let it go. Frieza in the opening/ending credits and the little commercial cut sequences were a nice touch. The new ED isn't as catchy as Boogie Back but I think I'll grow to like it. Shame it appears to have the same drawn quality as the episode, though. Yuck. Though I liked Gohan taking a prominent role.

#17 jacking off, #18 fighting Widowmaker and Vegeta punching a guy that doesn't appear to give a shit was poor and needs to be addressed/fixed in the next episode. Ever since Whis' explanation that the SSGSS transformation isn't meant to be abused over and over and that each consecutive transformation weakens it overall [which is what contributed heavily to Vegeta's loss to Hit], it's annoying to see Goku use it for a hot second to break a fucking hold. He should've went Level 1 or 2--max. It's like showing your hand prematurely. While the bulk of the fighters assembled already knows about Goku's considerable strength I still find it upsetting that he'd go max out--even if it was for few precious seconds--strictly because of the nature of the transformation. Now he isn't as optimal and that'll be his downfall. But I'm being autistic about it.

What were your thoughts, anon?
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>>159271183
You mean the people who watch it on YouTube?
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>>159271226
That's what they did with the American release of Kai. I'm surprised they aren't doing it again over here, especially since the name Super is such shit
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Weekly reminder that Yoshifumi Fukushima was a mistake
(he is a scriptwriter, infamous for being retarded)
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>>159271191
so does DBS but you still watch it
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>>159268106
>tfw every universe are top competitors except for U9
>tfw U2 is one of the top competitors in this tournament
>tfw the pride troopers suck except for 3 guys
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>>159271161
I honestly have no fucking idea. He's one of the, if not THE least interesting DBZ villains.

>No personality
>Retarded grudge
>LOLMAXIMUM no strategy flailing like a retard
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>>159270924
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>>159271147
It's not SS3 if the hair doesn't smoothly transition to the long hair in the back and has longass bangs.
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>>159271102
Or maybe he could have just gone SSJ earlier to get free rather than struggling like a moron and almost being pulled off the stage, which would be less risky than going blue at the last second and also would have saved energy?
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>>159271061
That's not how it works. 10 times Earth's gravity is nothing for Goku / Vegeta. The speed loss is insignificant
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>>159271274
Glad were on the same page.
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>>159271243
>cos whites and latinos hate him
I am white and I like Broly.
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>>159271061

Dragonball gravity multipliers aren't strict power multipliers. Remember when Goku struggled picking up an apple on king kai's planet, despite it only being 10x gravity and should have only weighed a few pounds?

Gravity in DB multiplies the gravity WAVES not the effects of gravity. A 10x multiplier of gravity WAVES is the equivalent of 1000x gravity due to the square-cube law
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>>159271183
Not really true. Super is much more liked than GT and has not at all been a complete failure with ratings or merchandise sales. Super's impact, even with all the show's flaws, is a lot more sound than GT's failure.
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>>159271299
its the ultimate power fantasy in a series thats nothing but power fantasies, of course is the autists favorite character
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>>159270521
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>>159271303
They images are irritatingly tiny for comedic effect.
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>>159268704
>people still think gohan will job this arc
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>>159271245
>Ever since Whis' explanation that the SSGSS transformation isn't meant to be abused over and over and that each consecutive transformation weakens it overall [which is what contributed heavily to Vegeta's loss to Hit],
That's only in the manga.

>What were your thoughts, anon?
Pretty much the same as this guy >>159268296
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>>159271391
What ever happened to this fella?
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>>159271299
>triggered into maximum rage by Goku crying nonstop when he was a baby

People can relate to Broly.
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>>159271370
That explains the fanbase of Cell games Gohan all too well.
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>>159271351
>implying Toei or Toriyama give enough of a shit to research any of this
>implying the 10x gravity will have any noticeable effect on the tournament
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>>159271494
Fucking Kek
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>>159267203
Super is officially below-GT tier.
Equally bad writing: Check
Inferior animation: Check
Inferior music: Check
Equally recycled animation: Check
Yep, it's shit.
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>>159271326
>Saiyan saga
>Holy shit Vegetorz, earth gravity makes us fucking strong as balls!
>Goku's post kai natural power boost is literally x10 what he went in with
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>>159271495
Well of course, only people who project into Gohan like Gohan, everyone else thinks he's just a jobber
>>
When the hell is the timeskip past the end of Z? I'm tired of fights feeling inconsequential
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>>159271183
>Everyone
You knkw, if you take a look outside of your small echo chamber on this site, you'll notice that Super has surpassed fucking One Piece in ratings. Super is a massive success. Just because some autists here say they are dropping it doesn't mean that the show isn't performing fantastically
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>>159271561
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZIvtkVkzKg
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Is Roshi the weakest person in the tournament of power?
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How would you make this fit into the same continuity as Super?

Is there really any way to?
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>>159271632
Yeah that's GT's animation recycling that I was referring to.
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>tfw Jiren is just U11's Mr.Satan
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>>159271021

DBSuper is too autistic to have emotional atmospheric moments where they just cut to people's faces while ominous music plays. I miss that aspect of dragonball.

nowadays they have to have constant actions and explosions, but sometimes I wish they would just cut back and show goku and jiren staring at each other. They also need to bring back bruce falconer's soundtrack.
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>>159271638
Nah, it is that animal dude.
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>>159271638
What a idiotic question to ask. But yes, Roshi is the weakest member, by a light year.
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>>159271657
Same way DB Online and Xenoverse did, ALTERNATE FUCKING TIMELINE where Beerus never came to Earth.
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>>159271657
At the end of the series, Zeno plants false memories into the minds of the mortals, or forces them to forget.
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>>159271657
Nobody cares.
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>>159271563
>Saiyan saga

It made a difference back then but now it's absolutely nothing
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>>159271485
He became as strong as his father
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>>159271657
The events of GT take place in a dream Pan has.

Introduce a new villain into Super that can tear the fabric of reality and bring aspects of Pans dream into the real world.
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>>159271657
Absorbing God Ki into his body would kind of explain why Goku in his base form is suddenly stronger than everyone else as a Super Saiyan.

Nothing to do about Kibito and Shin fusing again or Earth's hell being different though.
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>>159271638
No. It can be assumed that the robot who got beaten by just mario stomping on his hands is weaker.

Roshi is currently as strong as Krillin in base form without hulking out.
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>>159271721
https://youtu.be/Cs3HGlHRDTc
One of my favorite scenes in Z. Super really needs more of this.
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>>159271632
Still better than Super
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>>159271729
Maybe, with the exception of some animal fighter.
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>>159271723
>that animal dude
That doesn't narrow it down at all.

>>159271729
I meant in the whole tourney. Not just the U7 squad.
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>>159271464
Shit. I forget. Separate canon's. This was arguably one of Super's worse episodes, without a doubt. I went in expecting a 7/10 like an idiot and walked away with a 3/10.
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>>159271799
>>
Goku's biggest weakness is the fact that his base form is shit tier, look at Toppo or Jiren, they don't need gimmicks to be godlike
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>>159271805
But that is debatable
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>>159271754
Goku can STILL be hurt by bullets if he lets go of his training for a few weeks. The differences in power between sagas is smaller than what it feels like.
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Are there any posters here more pathetic than the toyopedros?
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>>159271787
>Roshi is currently as strong as Krillin in base form without hulking out.

How is that? He was inactive through the whole of Z.
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>>159271799
Whatever makes you feel better, Roberto Rodriguez.
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>>159271871
Toeishills who love recycling
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>>159271871
Yes.
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>>159271723

The U6 one? I dunno he looks kinda badass.
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>>159271793
Pointless drama considering how easily death is undone in Dragon Ball
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>>159271863
Yeah
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>"HAHA THE ROBOT GUY IS SPINNING, YOU'LL NEVER DEFEAT US NOW! THIS IS THE PERFECT SURVIVAL STRATEGY!"
>*gets kicked in the arms and is fucked*

This episode was autistic in so many ways.
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>>159271575
They can really relate to Brolyfags because they're on the spectrum too.
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>>159271601
> Super has surpassed fucking One Piece in ratings
>needing everyone in the world watching a show on crunchyroll to barely outpace a show that only plays in japan

lol, super is only doing well because dragonball has a huge undying fanbase built up from DBZ in the 90's. People are just too caught up in the hype right now since we haven't had any new Dragonball for 15+ years. As more and more people realize how shit it is and give up the ratings will fall and it will be remembered as being worse than GT
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>>159271880
He engaged in secret training. They told us in the Tien episode.
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>>159271960
>People are just too caught up in the hype right now
It's been nearly 100 episodes. About two years. Hype would have died off.
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>>159271638
We don't have enough feats yet to conclude that he's the weakest in the tournament.
But he's the weakest member of U7.
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>>159271865
>The differences in power between sagas is smaller than what it feels like.

It certainly isn't. otherwise Vegeta wouldn't be able to survive 500 times normal gravity like he did
It certainly isn't.
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>>159271985
Maybe he grinded Poachers for EXP tpp
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>>159268171
obviously ssj4!
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>>159271950
Those guys can't make an android as powerful as the ones Dr. Gero made in a CAVE from a BOX OF SCRAPS. And they had freaking gods overseeing the work.

Gero is LITERALLY, not figuratively, GOD TIER ENGINEER.
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>>159267065
Jiren is going to job so fucking hard that all you nerds sucking his dick will realize you were licking pussy the entire time.
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>>159271322
He didn't want to waste any energy against him at all. He thought that he could just smack him in the fucking face and that would be it. Dragging out fights and trying to push his enemies limit without pushing his own limit until the very last second is Goku's whole shtick. I mean hell, most of the time nobody ever goes to their very limit until the very end of a fight. By the time he realized he wasn't going to be able to do shit in his base form, he was already on the edge and about to be thrown off.

He realized that this guy took a solid punch in regular form without flinching much at all; and didn't know if SSJ or anything higher would make him completely let go, so he just ended up using SSG for a second to assure that he would flinch enough to let go at the last second before falling without a doubt.

I mean hell, it was kind of smart honestly. The only thing that would have cemented that it was a smart move is if he had gone SSJ - 2 - to show that the guy was stronger than he had anticipated. But that would have made the guy doing it hesitate; and probably wouldn't have had him suicide and he'd have to deal with him normally. Goku probably knew that, so he instead decided to flip the tables on him at the last second.

I mean hell, he could have had this super duper power up or some bullshit to distract Goku longer just in case his tactic failed. Would you be happy if Goku was delayed by some dumb bullshit because he decided to do that instead?
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>>159272063
I unironically agree.

Wasn't it designed by Toriyama anyway?
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>>159271960
Super is a genuinely better show than GT in several different ways. It's been 2 years since Super began (with an awful introduction to the show by the way) and its still successful regardless how you feel about it. We're a long way from Z, but at least we're above GT.
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>>159271561
>Inferior Animation
Anon, have you ever seen the Super Android 17 arc? Because the animation, if you can even call it that consisted of poorly drawn still frame after poorly drawn still frame. The backgrounds in the whole show where complete ass, and the dynamic scenes were janky and poorly drawn.

>Bad writing
Are you fucking kidding Me? GT, with making Goku a child, suddenly throwing in the Black star dragonballs. Pan. Very little Vegeta, Gohan, Piccalo, or Goten. Goku solving every single problem with no other characters being important. And stupid shit like Super Android 17

>Inferior Music
Super's is fine. GTs was okay too, but often felt very out of place (Gogeta theme comes to mind)

>Equally recycled animation
See the other anons reply. Super may reuse a few frames per episode. GT often would have half the episode be recycled frames

Ya, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
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>>159272025

except the anime didn't even start until episode 60 since the first half was just retelling the movies and pointless filler arcs
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>>159271960
Everyone was calling it garbage and shit when it was doing the beerus and Resurrection of freeza arc.

Then it only gained a huge fanbase due to the U6 tournament, Zamasu and now this tournament.
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>>159272059
Bullets don't increase in power level.
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>>159272135
What's your point?
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Does Vados sleep in the same bed as Champa or not?
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>>159272197
if you want her to she does
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Best Z movie? I have only seen Father of Goku
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>>159272197
No. She doesn't sleep.
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>>159272217
awh you screened my champa livestream shitpost

>>159272236
shit must be boring
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>>159272220
Dead Zone definitely as my favorite fight choreography.
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>>159272220
It's kind of unfair to compare the movies with the two tv specials. Bardock and Trunks are easily better than any of the other ones if you're going with that.
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>>159272135

>drew in a large audience just with recaps

Not helping your case, anon.
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>>159271938

wasn't kid buu threatening to take out heaven and the kai's after he got bored of blowing up galaxies though? Dying in the cell saga didn't really matter, but Buu mattered since he could always kill souls in heaven
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>>159272280
>awh you screened my champa livestream shitpost
>implying
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>>159272280
>shit must be boring
Nah, she has plenty of ways to entertain herself.
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name a better fight than this if you can
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybuuN6j3Z2g
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>>159272172

everyone was waiting and bottling up their hype for when the first real arc began, hence the sudden rating boosts. Now people are going to be disappointed and tune out
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>>159272085
Geros Androids were cyborgs. Changed to 'Android' in the English dub for who knows what reason.
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>>159271960
>needing everyone in the world watching a show on crunchyroll to barely outpace a show that only plays in japan
What? The ratings he's talking about are Japanese ratings although he's getting ahead of himself. Super beat One Piece once in the last two weeks, that doesn't mean it'll keep doing that.
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>>159272135
If anything, that would have killed the hype. Yet it didn't. Super is a huge success

>>159271960
What the fuck are you talking about? One Piece is shown worldwide on Crunchyroll too. One Piece is the most popular series in the world, and had the highest average ratings until recently with Super
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>>159272350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0sgRQ8ReqM
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>>159272338
like what

>>159272332
anon..
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>>159272350
Goku vs Cell
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>>159272098
Nope, by Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru
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>>159272410
The guys from that universe are also cyborgs. Comment still stands.
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>>159272447
They can't your shitposts... Because they were my shitposts!!
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>>159272447
>like what
You know, girl stuff.
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>>159271960
>lol, super is only doing well because dragonball has a huge undying fanbase built up from DBZ in the 90's. People are just too caught up in the hype right now since we haven't had any new Dragonball for 15+ years. As more and more people realize how shit it is and give up the ratings will fall and it will be remembered as being worse than GT

Except the opposite has happened so far. Super matched One Piece in ratings once for the Future Trunks arc, and now beat it once with the current arc. Its biggest ratings happened after months while GT's biggest ratings were the first two episodes.

GT also managed to kill the "undying DBZ fanbase" in Japan for 10 years. Not only the show was over, but games and merchandising quickly became scarce and initially only revived in order to be sold to America.
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>>159272488
i remember something about her whispering something in his ear and he turns red or something

>>159272502
she's lazy af, doesn't even train cabba
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>>159271985
Why did he keep it secret?

>>159272481
When does it say that?
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>>159271880
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>>159272556
The episode where they are talking about modifying their fighters to win the battle with claws for grabbing the corners and spinny top technique. Also, the rules that a full robot can't participate.
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>>159271960
One piece is on CR also. DBS has only surpassed it's Jap ratings like twice now. OP remains way more successful.

Although to say DBS isn't majorly successful is wrong, however, it is not being loved. It is just like GT, people will look back on it as being shit and there will likely be no hype for another series after Super.
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We need an entire episode of Hit single handedly destroying all the fighters from one universe
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>>159272652
DBS is probably doing better over seas
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>>159272670
I'd like it if the last 3 standing were Hit, Goku, and Jiren.
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>>159272556
>Why did he keep it secret?
Unknown. We can assume it's a jackie chun type stunt meant to teach them something about resting on your laurels or somesuch and that they weren't meant to find out until a certain point later.
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>>159272677
Maybe, but GT did well too. So there could be a massive hiatus after this. Also, Masako must have to retire soon.
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>>159272553
>doesn't even train cabba
Why would she? That's not her job.
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DB>>>>>>DBZ>>>>>>>>>>DBGT>DBS
This is fact so don't try to debate me.
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>>159272774
It is indeed a fact that you hold this opinion.
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>>159272135
>except the anime didn't even start until episode 60 since the first half was just retelling the movies and pointless filler arcs

You do realize that releasing movies that condense what was in the series is what a lot of animes do; right? A good example would be Gurren Lagann, or Madoka. Except DB did it in reverse, because they wanted to cash in on the hype of DB coming back by releasing them as movies first; instead of the opposite like most animes do. Also could have been some trademark shit going on too.

But honestly, it was an amazing marketing strategy on their side to release the movies first; then the series so there could be maximum hype when the series was announced. The big question when the movie came out was 'what if they come out with a series, and the movies are just compressed versions of what we're going to get?' hype was so fucking real when the series was announced. If the Movies were announced after the series.. It would have been like 'Oh...... its a recap of everything we've seen except some stuff was reanimated and stuff'.
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>>159272723

so he willfully just let all his friends die repeatedly when he could have been helping?

He could have defeated vegeta and at least the ginyu force by himself with his current level of power
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>>159272774
DB manga>>>>>>>>>>>DB anime
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>>159272467
Did Toriyama like the design?
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>>159270870
>Here, Mr. Satan calls Dragon with Dragon Ball.
>Satan wishes God to destroy the garlic, but
reply that it is not possible to defeat a stronger baby than the dragon.
>So Goku wishes to fuse with all the audience.
Fusion is a skill that becomes intensely strong by originally combining two people into one warrior.
>Fusion with 300 audiences with the power of Shin drag it! It is!
>Everyone raises their index finger and it is fused with Goku! It is!
http://usjcapture.com/jump-summer/dragonball2017-usj.html
tfw the dragon can make people fuse
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>>159272774
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i miss him already
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>>159270346
I love the "ATATATATATATA" clashes if they're not animated too poorly. It's just raw fighting and feels good.
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>>159272740
might have saved u6 tbqh
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>>159272774
Tienshinhan Saga and onwards > Saiyan and Namek Sagas > the rest of DB > Android and Buu Sagas > Super from Zamasu arc > GT > Super until Zamasu arc
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>>159272971
why are dragon ball announcers always so great?
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>>159273002

Accurate
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>>159272090
The only pussy I lick is your mom's.
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>>159267203
Are you new to anime?

Reused animation happens all the time in long runners
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>>159273097
what about that cat that one time?
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>>159273002
Actually this is pretty good. I was ranking the shows as a whole but if I broke it up like this I'd have ranked it in this order.
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Whats with the white aura around goku in the next episode preview?

Can i get a rapid upstream on it?
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>>159272980
That's his fault for not asking her to train him, then. Vados won't get erased if they lose, so there's no reason for her to go out of her way to help them.
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>>159273150
just what the fuck does she do all day?
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>>159271793
>even though he caused the problem his sacrifice was well directed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7C0R3DdOfk
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>>159273002
>Buu above anything but Super From Zamasu
>Saiyan saga that high
>Saiyan and Namek above the rest of DB
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>>159273146

literally too lazy to smooth the outlines after they copy/pasted him in MSPaint
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>>159273146
It looks so shitty
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>>159273146
ki shield allowing him to drop his guard without getting fucked again
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>All these people complaining about recycled animation

So, is it these kids first weekly anime or what? Animating a full 20 minute episode every week with no real breaks is a grueling and massive work load, the animators who work on this shit work 80 hour weeks and news articles have been written about the inhumane conditions that they work in to hit those deadlines.

Recycling animation and taking shortcuts is a necessity for this shit, you can see it in literally every weekly animated series (and even in some seasonal shows, though it tends to be less common then because they have the time between seasons to break thing up and give them more time to animate).

Complaining about a few frames of recycled animation that has been altered to fit the scene in an episode just shows how ignorant and stupid you are.
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>>159273241
It looks exactly like the "godly" aura that Fused Zamasu had. But now I wonder if that's intentional or just more of this "reused" meme shit. If it's intentional then is it safe to assume Goku is channeling god ki in his base form?
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>>159273201
Probably reading some shitty romance novels while fantasizing about being taken by a strong, muscular man.
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>>159272867
Well, he never said it directly, but he acknowledge how much Nakatsuru is skilled, so I suppose so.
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>>159273146
I actually think that they're pulling a trick with the preview and the 'white aura' on Goku is actually some kind of residual energy from an attack from one of the U9 guys. For example it could be an attack meant to leave energy attached to Goku that can be easily sensed and tracked down by the U9 members so they can use hit and run tactics even in the chaos of the 80 man battle (since they would always know exactly where he is they can just run in, attack him, then run back into the crowd over and over again and slowly wear him down until he's tired enough to defeat).
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>>159273273
>"wahh I'm a Toei shill and I cry everytime someone fairly critiques their lazy practices because I suck Toei's dick for some reason!"
>"wahh the staff have bad conditions but I won't blame Toei for it because that would mean criticizing my masters"
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>>159273331
>Zamasu will never hit that
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>>159273273

why don't they just take a fucking break then? Nobody's asking them to break their backs over a cartoon, we just want quality animation. Just take 2 weeks per episode if it's so hard to do, whatever it takes just don't half ass it.

>b-but anime industry doesn't work like that. They'd lose money

They would easily remake the money back 10 fold on DVD sales if the show were actually of good quality. With the show being half assed the way it is I couldn't justify even watching it more than once.
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>>159273414
Some anon pointed out that the aura looks like the white pixels left behind after pasting an image in mspaint and I can't unsee it.
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I miss the "serious" and more mature Goku
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>>159273424
This. I'm never going to buy the DVDs, even if the art is improved somewhat the animation will still be shitty. If the show was quality it would be worth buying the DVDs, but I'm not gonna rewatch any of this shit.
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>>159273423
Fuck off, Zamasufag. She wants a real man like Vegetto.
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>>159270251
DBZ was made more than 20 years ago you twerp, now it's literally the most popular anime franchise in the world and Toei is still being cheap even when it's reaching One Piece level of audience. Not only that but the whole thing is a mess starting from the artists.
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>>159273424
>why don't they just take a fucking break then?
>take 2 weeks per episode
And kill all the Japanese kids love for the cartoon? fuck no
DVD's dont sell all that well for shit in Nippon like they do in America
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>>159273479
I do too.
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>>159273479
I like how Goku was the hope of the universe the whole time
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>>159267638
Trust me when I say this, we can tell, we can really tell, noodle arm goku.
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>>159273507
>5 minutes before he defuses

kek, even champa lasts longer
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>>159273479
What you don't like TFS Goku?
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>>159272841
Vegeta's power was comparable to a member of the ginyu force while in ape form. But, the way I understand it is:

>Power Levels don't matter
>Because of this, the power gaps between sagas are a lot smaller than we think
>This means that those opponents who could take on the human members of the team would've been able to take Roshi on
>Roshi's techniques are severely lacking in raw power

The thing closest to "real" power levels is energy control. As shown by Frieza and the androids, raw power without proper energy control actually weakens you and you can defeat a stronger opponent just by outlasting him. The "hiding" of power levels that earthlings do is not hiding, so much as keeping a reserve to unleash at high pressure as needed. This is corroborated by the constant spiking and why scouters could not gouge their true strength and why transforming to decrease your power is a thing among aliens, since it works as a shittier, less controlled version of keeping a reserve. Aliensd such as frieza would get winded much faster due to their lack of energy control and this is even the explanation for various characters becoming stronger.

Roshi has shit energy control. He relies on a form, much like the aliens shown in the series, to keep a well of power and his form is actually hard enough to sustain that he very rarely keeps it up for longer than a few seconds.

Ergo, Roshi can unleash plenty of power and keep up with other stronger characters, but his time limit means he'd lose in most life or death fights as he simply tires out before his opponent does. It is possible that the secret training goku refers to is simply better energy control.
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>>159273595
Wait if he defuses while inside, what happens?
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>>159273273
>Toeishills this assblasted

Delicious
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>>159273603
What you don't believe in Goku's words of wisdom?
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>>159271756
>list of characters more important than Launch
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>>159273676
probably 2 dicks in whatever hole he was in
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>>159273595
That's all Vados needs.
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I miss Zamasu
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>>159273701
Vegeta and goku are both pulled out from Vados' pussy and everyone immediately notices Vegetas small cock
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>>159273528
>And kill all the Japanese kids love for the cartoon?

They have to be sacrificed for the greater good. Exactly like we did with Hiroshima and Nagasaki
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>>159273740
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>>159273754
money is the greatest good as far as Toei is concerned
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>>159273705
poor girl, never satisfied

>>159273750
STOP
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>>159273786
that reminds me...
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>>159273424
If they released an episode every 2 weeks people would complain that we were still back in the Goku Black arc and that shit was taking too long.

Meanwhile, the irregular schedule would mean that people watching would begin to lose interest.

Also Dragon Ball makes more money form merch sales than from BD sales in japan. So they're under pressure to pump out new content that can be turned into figures and toys more quickly to sell to kids. Not to mention that I think you are seriously over estimating how much the BD sales would improve because of a marginal increase in animation quality. Weekly shows tend to be aimed at children much like Dragon Ball is and children aren't very discerning about animation quality and will ask their parents to buy the BDs for them regardless of the animation quality.

If it was aimed at adults you would have a point but they're trying to sell toys and BDs to kids here, the adult audience is just a bonus.
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>>159273754
>no japanese kids interested in Duragonabll
>Toei starts losing moolah
>Super just ends then and there
>Budget now goes into Wan piss
>nobodys interested cause Jap kids no longer like action shit and want tits
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>>159273603
TFS goku seems more smarter than toei's goku
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dosent my anime deserve better?
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>>159268386
I honestly wish they would still do that.
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The best case scenario for quality animation would be more movies.
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>>159273899
>Tien bounced first
That faggot
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>>159273899
>Later losers, bought kill some Poacher elfs
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>>159273899
>Windows
I think your computer deserves better.
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>>159273860
Perhaps they should have animated it a few years in advance using money from merch and games so they wouldn't have to use sweatshop animators just to get episodes out in time.

There are plenty of long running shonen with far less budget than DBS that are animated great and have great and consistent art. Toei are just shit, which is why they are fucking up One Piece too.
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What makes Vados so hot?
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>>159273935
kek
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>>159273002
Fair enough. Though I still think the Zamasu saga is garbage. The villain was a lazy evil doppleganger and Mirai Trunks was the ultimate Mary Sue.
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why does cauliflower have to yell at khale all the time? she is like KAHLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

its anoying
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>>159273935
Fucking 3 eyed homo
Hes lucky hes on the same team as Roshi
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Cucked tbqh
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>>159274007
That she's Whis with a vagina, and Whis is pretty fucking hot.
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>>159273985
It's not a budgetary thing like they need money to do it. It's matter of not caring because it's cheaper and quicker to do shit animation.
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>>159274067
yup
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>>159273985
>plenty of long running shounen shows with far less budget that are animated great
Name them.
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>>159274007
>hair
>voice
>height
>heels
>lips
>eyes
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>ToP coming to an end
>Jiren beating Goku
>Something in Goku snaps
>Begins powering up
>Pink hair
>This plays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjQFqpLM-YE
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>>159274007

I love her big alien forehead
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Why was Battle of the Gods so good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV3xB-bxD1k
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>>159274143
Not him but Hunter x Hunter and Bleach
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So what's the point of these dudes? What do they do that the Daishinkan can't cover?
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If they're going to stand there like a bunch of jackasses, why doesn't Piccolo just charge up for 45 minutes then do a huge sweep of the stage when it's almost over
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>>159273899
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>>159274153
>>159274198

https://twitter.com/TOYOTARO_Vjump/status/875860449677287424

based toyotaro
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>>159274207
budget
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>>159270586
>noooooooo D:<
You have to go back
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>>159274212
Their mouths
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>>159274172
i wish anon rose form is based
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>>159273273
So what you're saying is that animators today with digital tools have it harder than animators in the past who made quality animation hand drawing the cells and shit out on a weekly basis?
Yeah I would maybe swallow this garbage if it was for a show that was so obscure they are scraping change off the street to fund it but that's not the case. It's fucking Dragon Ball and Toei. The budget could be there.
Instead the fact is the people in charge are shit so the show is shit. End of Story.
You can even pick out a handful of scenes from Boku no Hero Asscademia that shit ALL OVER the entirety of the animation from Super.
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>>159274212
what's the point of GoDs? What do they do that the angels can't cover?
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>Don't mind me just masturbating with my U6 counterpart
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Anyone have a webm of the fight between goku and zamasu where zamasu uses his foot to throw goku down and then trunks follows after goku? That was the only part in the entire arc that I felt was pretty well animated.
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Honestly, it would be great if each saiyan got a different form.

Gohan keeps going with his ultimate form

Vegeta brute forces his way into SSB2

Goku gets a mix of the two
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>>159274222
God, I want to fuck her.
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>>159273899
>frieza suddenly has meta-cooler's tail instead of a smooth one with no lines
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>>159273899
m8 you need to activate windows
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>>159274305
Kek
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>>159274212

they're the adult form of Zen-Oh's race
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>>159274297
Angels probably can't Hakai, and manual destruction isn't the same for whatever reason..
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>>159274390
troll
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>>159274355
she's so far above us mere ningens, anon
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>>159274411
Considering that getting a tingly feeling on your back is what worked for turning super saiyan, That will probably work for SSG.
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>>159274287
When they care, they can do good animation.
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>>159274392
>>159274392
>>159274392
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>>159274143
Hunter x Hunter, Bleach, Fall Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood etc etc
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>>159274458
oh
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>>159274461
That won't stop me.
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>>159274287
To crack through your nostalgia a little here anon. Original Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z used still frames and repeated animation constantly as short cuts to make it through the weekly animation grind.

Go re-watch DBZ and keep an eye out for all the times there were literally minutes going by with nothing but still frames and camera pans where none of the characters were actually moving. Watch how many times fights would spend a majority of their time lingering on characters throwing the same punches animated on a loop at each other to save time. Watch for how many times the art got janky and garbage because the animators were working on some flashy fight or moment that was coming up soon in the following episodes.

Old Dragon Ball did it too you fucking idiot. You were just a child at the time and not an over-analyzing autistic faggot yet so you didn't notice.
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>>159274419
>Angels probably can't Hakai
The angels are probably the ones who gave the GoDs that power. I think the more reasonable explanation is that they don't want to do dirty work. Also, angels would have no bother doing the GoD work without hakai anyway.
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>>159274525
wasnt my pic got from diff forum
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>>159274297

Angels are too easy going and lackadaisical to judge whether a civilization should be destroyed or not. They literally don't give a fuck and have no morals.
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>>159274498
Bleach looks like garbage and FMAB is 64 episodes, not really the same as a +100 episode weekly series.

HxH also constantly has people complaining in the threads about the animation on the 2011 series being bad.
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>>159272148
>higher cal bullet doesnt do more damage than a lower one

ok
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>>159274758
The exact same bullet doesn't become stronger over time, you silly billy.
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>>159274739
>HxH also constantly has people complaining in the threads about the animation on the 2011 series being bad.
Those just saved the budget for the important moments.
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>>159274587
I like how you point all these things out yet the current animators don't stop doing this shit even though it takes less effort.
I wasn't even specifically talking about older DB. I'm talking about anything that was well animated/drawn in the past.
It took more time, effort and money to produce than now where all you have to do is save shit to a photoshop project then upload it to video editing software.
There's nothing I can say to change your mind though. You don't even see the irony of how all these shortcut methods are still done and you are defending it because it's new.
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should i watch gt?
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>>159274321
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>>159274739
>HxH also constantly has people complaining in the threads about the animation on the 2011 series being bad.
Really? Because it isn't. Even so, it is far better animated than Super. It's lowest moments are about on par with Super's top moments of animation.
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>>159275007
You are posting a gif from an OP. Toei a shit, though.
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>>159274919
That is exactly what they are doing in DBS right now though. The whole point behind reusing animations in these early, unimportant fights is to save time and effort that can be spent animating the important fights a few episodes from now.

It's literally the same fucking thing.
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>>159275088
Not him but DBS does it way, way more than HxH did though, and personally I never found HxH 2011 animation to be bad at all, I can't think of any particularly shit moments
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>>159267203
>People bitch about GT reusing animation
>Super does this
>People still defend this

Dragon Ball Super Cucks strike again.
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>>159275088
Here is the difference, DBS looks bad regularly and ok in the big moments

HxH looks ok regularly and really fucking good in the big moments
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>>159275086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODewvl4OH-U
Here's the actual animation then.
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>>159273252
Holy shit that would actually be smart. Why didn't Goku consider that sooner?
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>>159267941
Videl lost hers to Spopovich
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>>159275328
This sums it up. HxH never looked bad in it's budget moments, just ok, good art, ok animation. It then had amazing moments of animation and art.

DBS looks ok at best in the big moments and looks shitty most of the time. It has way too many shots where characters have no detail even if THE SHOT IS STILL and the characters are blatantly off model.

It annoys me thinking about how good DBS could have been if Madhouse had done it.
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>>159273217
I mean I guess if you enjoy poo poo toilet humour for 4 year olds.
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>>159273836
>Filename Copia.jpg
Spics need to go
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