>there are people on this board RIGHT NOW that watched DBZ

>hqdefault
>generic bait green text
Not only are you a normalfag, but you have gone even further beyond by stealing another normalfag's bait thread and reposting it.

Why does it matter? Is DBZ truly unwatchable without watching Dragon Ball first? Like honestly not just your opinion just on an objective level.

>>159240943
Quit spurging.

>>159240955
I mean, it's not REQUIRED, but neither is season 1 of any other tv show

>>159240890
A lot. In many countries both anime aired on cable tv. I didn't have cable until around the Namek saga. I knew Dragon Ball and I had watched a few episodes at some friend's, but I really got into it a lot later. And I know for sure I wasn't the only one.

>>159241055
This, I started at Cell saga only seeing a few episodes before (one from Namek, at least one from Garlic Jr.). I watched GT concurrently with Buu saga and I didn't see whole story until years later. And I never watched original DB, only read this part in the manga.

Ah, cable TV how I don't miss thee.

>tfw got the superior ocean dub of dragonball
Thanks, leafs

>>159240890
How old is Tein?

>>159241385
Late 20s early 30s?

To my defense, didn't know Dragon Ball was a thing until Frieza shut. Blame Toonami. I remember thinking it was stupid because no one flew or used ki blasts. As an adult I now appreciate Dragon Ball (and side people, Jesus who knew people besides Goku were important). Also, I can see the evolution of power. To the point it now kinda bothers me that flying is basic 101 shit and how stupid powerful Goku is.

>>159240890
Boggles my mind aswell
Dragon ball is better than Z
and how can you say your a big fan of a story and never watch the first half of it

>>159241493
More like first 4th, especially including Super, but yea I agree

The Goku vs Tien fight is too good for this world.

Cartoon Network didn't air the original Dragon Ball until halfway through the Cell Saga, if I remember right. And that was years after the show became popular, because of how long it took to get episodes beyond the fight with Recoome.

Goku vs. Piccolo at the end of Dragonball is still the best fight in the entire franchise.

>>159241385
Well, as far as their ages, with Goku as the base age:

--Goku and Chichi are 12 at the beginning of the series
--Bulma, Yamcha, Tenshinhan/Tien, and Launch are 4 years older than Goku
--Krillin is 1 year older than Goku
--Yajirobe is 2 years older than Goku
--Vegeta is 5 years older than Goku
--Master Roshi is around 300 years old
--Uranai Baba (Roshi's sister) is around 500 years old, supposedly

>>159241316
>DRAGON BALL ZEEEEE

You mean when Yamcha and Tenshinhan were relevant?

>>159240890
>There are people who haven't read the manga who think they're entitled to an opinion.

>>159242129
--Master Roshi is around 300 years old
--Uranai Baba (Roshi's sister) is around 500 years old, supposedly
I'd like to get an OVA on them. I mean, what the fuck? How come all four (Roshi, Uranai Baba, Tsuru-sennin, Tao Pai Pai) got immortal/super long living? And their parents too, apparently.

>>159242289
Earth is filled with ways to become immortal. Roshi drank an immortality elixir.

>>159242446
When is this revealed?

>>159242446
No, Roshi received immortality from the phoenix. The elixir was a lie that he told Tenshinhan in the Piccolo Daimao arc about not being able to die in battles. Meanwhile, the Phoenix's immortality is established from the start to only be about longevity.

>>159243108
Right during Roshi's introduction, in the same scene where he gives Goku the cloud.

>>159243243
I can't believe I forgot all of this

>there are people who continue to eat up dragon ball after it's been dead for years
Also dragon ball manga is comfy as fuck

>>159240943
Oh nooo someone used google to get an appropriate image for the OP

>>159240890
I did that but that's because I was a kid when DBZ was airing in my country.
I watched DB years later when I was a teenager but I still enjoyed it much more than DBZ.

>>159243784
It's an undisputed classic, and I still think it held things together pretty well through the Cell arc. The Dragon Ball side is still the tighter story though.

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>>159243108
Turtle says it
>>159243243
You're wrong

>>159243784
I agree, the manga is better

>>159240890
>>159241021
Judging people for that is the worst shit though. A lot of people didn't even know Dragon Ball existed when DBZ first aired in their country.

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>>159244030
Dragon Ball is still one of the greatest battle shounens regardless of age

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>>159243243
>>159244128
The Immortal Phoenix could grant immortality, but it's not what Roshi used.

>>159240955
well if you haven't seen db beforehand, the revelation of goku being an alien only leaves you with a "hm well, okay?". you probably won't appreciate picollo as much either or won't be angered by yamcha's decline into meaninglessness.
generally speaking: if you want to appreciate ALL the characters and the lore more, you should watch dragon ball first.

I'm just glad that I grew up on dragon ball and when DBZ aired, I was 12. and now, 16 years later, I'm still watching the show.
I think if I ever got a tattoo, I wouldn't regret putting something DB-related on my skin, as it has followed me my entire life
anybody got a DB-tattoo?

>>159244181
Everything through the Freeza saga is amazing and holds up to this day. Few shounens compare. Obviously if you look at it from a modern perspective, it stings watching Tien, Chiaotzu, and Yamcha die so meaninglessly and get benched for most of the manga after that. People didn't know that at the time though. Toriyama didn't know it at the time.

Gohan, Piccolo and Vegeta were the supporting fighters now and there wasn't going to be room for everyone. When you really look back, it's actually impressive how Toriyama continually managed to make Krillin an integral part of the plot until Buu. He was actually a very proactive character.

>>159240955
DBZ is truly unwatchable regardless of anything.

>>159244173

what kind of shitty ass country would air Z first?

>>159244589

As far as I know they never aired original DB in the first place in Finnish tv. We did have the manga translated though.

>>159244589
UK

>>159244547
Chiaotzu and Tenshinhan were just arc villains who stuck around after their story was finished. They weren't benched, they were never main characters at all. I'm tired of seeing this bullshit in every Dragon Ball discussion. You might as well complain about Oolong and Upa not going to Namek.

>>159240890
>watch
Heh.

>>159240890
In my country they aired DB, DBZ and DBGT all at the same time, so I grew up thinking it was some kind of larger meta-series that covered the past, present and future all at once.

>>159244756
Tbh I wish oolong stayed through everything. He is such a fun character

>>159245050
That's actually kinda dope. Did it change your view on the series growing up? Which was your favorite?

What country is this?

>>159240890
This fight is so underrated. Goku grabbing Tiens fist during the flash bang was one of the first times watching Dragonball I actually cheered out loud. Hype as fuck.

>>159247387
The fight is great, but it's overshadowed by literally every fight that happens after it.

>>159246029
>Did it change your view on the series growing up?
Well they aired an episode of each back-to-back in the evenings, so since DB was on in the earliest time-slot and it was generally more lighthearted I got the impression that it was more of a "kids' show" while Z and GT were more meant for older audiences.
>Which was your favorite?
Z easily, though I've come to appreciate DB more with time. I also still like what they were trying to do with GT, even though the execution was shaky as hell.
>What country is this?
Canada

>>159240890
Kid Goku killed people, in many ways the original Dragon Ball is the most adult of all series, many sex jokes, General Blue is gay pedophile, even Kururin is a bastard.

>>159250427
>Killed people

Indirectly maybe. I wouldn't say hes a murderer, but then again he seems to have ZERO remorse when he kills the Hitman with his own grenade

>>159250531
>he seems to have ZERO remorse when he kills the Hitman with his own grenade
I wouldn't either.

>>159240890
[Spoiler]I have never seen any iteration of the DB franchise[/Spoiler]

>>159250531
When he killed Black, death was what he meant. Black was escaping, Goku said he wouldn't let this happen and then destroyed his robot along with him. I think it's a consensus that Goku's perspective on staff changed after training with Kami for three years.

>>159250874
*By Black, I obviously mean RR army mmber, not neo-Tullece.

>>159250804
You should get on that. Start with Dragonball or read the manga if you are a purist.

I only got into the franchise about 4 months ago and now I'm so sucked in I'm watching between 10 and 15 episodes a day

>>159250804
>>159251586
Reading the manga is the correct choice. Lots of fun.

>>159251678
However by doing this you miss awesome music. Also, some of the filler content is great (but leads to plot holes way to often).

>>159251977
True for the music.
>some of the filler content is great
You can always watch the driving licence episode after finishing the manga, but most of the filler is bad padding to let the manga keep up.

>>159251977
You also miss full animation and color, which is a pretty big upside for most people.

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>>159252123
>full animation
Toei '''animation'''. The manga looks way more dynamic despite the use of static images.

>color
Shading is more important in my opinion but I can see why it'd matter for some people.

>>159252123
There's a full color version of the original manga

>>159252424
Toriyama was too good at this for his own good.

The tournament arcs in DB were great. It felt like there was some sense of strategy in most of the matches instead of people just shooting beams and getting asspull power ups to suddenly curbstomp.

>>159240890
I was a teenager in the golden age of Toonami. I didn't know any better. I thought Gundam Wing was the fucking greatest. I'm sorry.
I did watch DB as soon as I learned I could DL anime episode by episode on Kazaa and Imesh.

As a kid DB seemed like a kid show version of DBZ so I never even attempted to watch it because I wanted to watch the mature adult show, know what I mean.

>>159244547
>Everything through the Cell saga is amazing and holds up to this day.
Fixed.

>>159250531
Kid Goku killed pretty indiscriminately. Of course with the exception of Piccolo, he's never really done it with his bare hands, but compared to after his training with Kami he didn't give a fuck if any of his enemies happened to die.

What's even funnier is that you could snag Dragon Ball tapes at a video store before the Harmony Gold dub was in production and moreso before they opted to show Z due to it being more action-oriented. Some people thought Dragon Ball was a prequel, and outright hated it due to being more lighthearted and adventurous.

If you were a kid and knew an adult who was into stuff like Dragon Ball, you were set, you didn't need the shitty dub.

Does anyone here prefer Goku vs Piccolo Senior to Maajunior fight? The original was really chaotic with Goku using both Kintoun and Nyoibo (in pretty unorthodox way), Tenshinhan saving his life and then becoming a hostage etc. In the "rematch" it seemed like Goku had everything under control until the moment Piccolo does his sneak attack and even then he still has ace up his sleeve. And the finisher is more iconic.

>>159240890
>What the ever loving fuck? That was my original plan but I'm so glad I watched this first.
Why was it your original plan? Why do people do that only for this series (excluding the fags who skip Jojo part 1 and 2)? I mean, doesn't it make sense to start from the beginning? I understand if you saw it on TV and your country aired only Z, but if you're starting now it makes no sense.

>>159244354
>or won't be angered by yamcha's decline into meaninglessness.
When was he ever meaningful?

>>159240890
Because Cable TV. It's not a teenagers fault that the standard internet connection speed was 56kbps.

They can hardly download a line of pixel's worth of porn and you expect them to have easily accessibly episodes of anime? Streaming wasn't a thing at the time either. Not taking into account that downloads would get interrupted by phone calls as well.

People's exposure to DB was through cable broadcast where many countries started with DBZ and was in the thick of it all.

Way to show your fucking underage OP.

>>159255670
He saved Goku's life twice.

>>159255670
>When was he ever meaningful?
First arc when he was the only one to give Goku some challenge, is a reccucring villain for a while and stops his rampage at the end saving everyone. Also Uranai Baba sub-arc when devises strategy to beat vampire guy and defeats invisible one himself.

>>159255845
Oh shit, fuck. Literally right after I posted this I saw you were talking about Yamcha, not Yajirobe like I thought for some reason.

>>159255903
Don't knock Yajirobe, eating one of Piccolo's children isn't anything to laugh at.

>>159255903
Yajirobe was a major character in Piccolo saga, becoming one of ~4 characters in original DB to defeat a named villain, later saving and transporting Goku to Karin. He was also crucial in beating Vegeta.

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>>159252424
I truly believe that there is no battle shounen that can ever surpass Dragon Ball at its prime. Toriyama was just too good.

>>159255892
>First arc when he was the only one to give Goku some challenge
Only because Goku was hungry, they fought again right after and he lost his teeth for it.
>is a reccucring villain for a while
A recurring villain just like Team Rocket or Pilaf gang, not a serious one.
>>159255892
>stops his rampage at the end saving everyone. Also Uranai Baba sub-arc when devises strategy to beat vampire guy
True, he also helped in the first arc with giving them a car, but I was mainly thinking about how useless he was at fighting.
>and defeats invisible one himself.
That was mostly Kuririn's quick thinking and Roshi's blood. Still, the only fight I remember him winning, other than random jobbers to qualify for the budokai.

>>159240890
I watched some, if not most, of DB on TV when i was very young.
I cant, however, remember nearly anything before goku killed king piccolo, and piccolo jr was born.

Its been on my backlog for a ages.

>>159241385
He's in his 40's in Super. He was like 19 when he first appeared in the manga.

>>159256241
>A recurring villain just like Team Rocket or Pilaf gang, not a serious one.
Well, first arc was first and foremost gag-focused. Being reccuring gag-character is as meaningful as you get.
>That was mostly Kuririn's quick thinking and Roshi's blood. Still, the only fight I remember him winning, other than random jobbers to qualify for the budokai.
No, he was able to beat him on his own. Kuririn and Kame-sennin were needed only because the guy himself got help. And there's also Chi-chi (however pathetic it seems).

>>159255670
>When was he ever meaningful?
He never was. He was always a jobber.

>>159256180
Prime Toriyama is a great balance between bloated and empty drawings. Especially Saiyan and Namek saga Toriyama.

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I read the entirety of Toriyama's original manga and loved the shit out of it, I couldn't care less about any of the animated sequels because they're moneymakers and nothing more

>>159240890
i watched dragonball, but only after dragonball gt

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>>159256180
>I truly believe that there is no battle shounen that can ever surpass Dragon Ball at its prime.
blocks your path

>>159240890
I'm watching DBS without watching DBZ beyond the Ginyu Saga. How does this make you feel?

>>159240890
I got into Super through Trunks saga lol


I'd love to watch DB but you know, it's late, I don't have time for 100+ episodes

>>159256882
Too many digital effects. It looks good and it's full of details but I don't know if it compares to Toriyama's panelling

>>159256882
I like OPM but you honestly have to be a complete fucking retard to think Murata comes even close to Toriyama's choreography or attention to detail in panels.

Original DB is overrated and Fat Buu is best villain.

I think I remember watching them simultaneously ages ago. The original series always made me feel weird due to how pervy and wacky it was but I enjoyed the adventure and seeing Goku get stronger and meeting new friends. Now I kinda feel like watching it from the very beginning because I know I missed some episodes back then because I watched it on tv.

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>>159240890

>>159244756
What are you talking about? Tenshinhan became a consistent supporting character immediately and stepped into the fight against Piccolo Daimou. Saying he was just "an arc villain that stuck around" is a bit bogus.

>>159242125
Funny how around here this whole thread is moot. Europe and South America got into anime during the 90s while the boom in the US was way into the early 2000. It plagued the TVs of Brazil during the 90s thanks to the fact that one of the major channels (Manchete) was owned by a Japanese guy who had direct access to licensing contracts in Japan, so now every normalfag has gorwn up watching Saint Seiya, Dragon Ball, Yu Yu Hakusho and a shitload of tokusatsu. Everybody who watched DBZ has watched the original DB.

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>>159244128
>Roshi desperately wanting to grope a 12 year old

goddamn toriyama chill

>>159260539
He's talking about Bulma iirc

>>159244128
You're the one who's wrong. He literally says that the elixir was bullshit when he knocks Tien to go and try mafuba on Piccolo

>>159244354
we knew he was an alien back in Dragon Ball. Am I misremembering? I'm pretty sure his grandfather found him in a spaceship

>>159261218
We only hear he's an alien in vol 17, when Raditz tells him that.

Can't believe people still think there's such a thing as DB and DBZ - there's only Dragon Ball, it's like telling people Naruto and Naruto Shippuuden are different series, while they're the same manga.

>>159244220
dragon ball was the perfect mix of SoL comedy and shounen power levels

>>159256882
Nope. Nothing will ever come close to Toriyama's choreography. Shit's so good it even looks and feels better than the actual animated fights from the anime.

>>159261282
Ever consider that he was talking about the anime Mr. Know-it-all?

>>159240890
I can't watch DB anymore, it just makes me sad. Not because of any personal reason but because their adventures don't mean shit and they'll live to realize it, Z wiped away everything.

>>159260093
I'm pretty sure DB aired on SBT though, not Manchete.

>>159252424
I'm not seeing what's so good about this. Can someone explain it better.

>>159241316
>>159242157

I was spoiled with the Ocean Dub myself. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy me some Chris Sabat, but I'll take Scott McNeil's Piccolo and Brian Drummond's Vegeta over his voiceover's any day.

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>>159257489
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>>159265303
Shit taste desu

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>>159268447

It's only good if you think that camera perspective video frame to panel drawing is the only way.

>>159253768
I thought we were going to get some of that in the current super arch, but so far it looks like I has hoping for too much.

>>159255585
I do.

>>159265488
What do you mean