Has CR already lost the war? What the fuck happened? Will this

>>159186682
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/04/14/aniplex-of-america-announces-katsugeki-touken-ranbu-anime

At least do your research before making shitpost images

>>159186682
>Netflix
Are they doing simulcasts now?
Last I checked they waited like months after it aired in Japan.

>Amazon
Has someone been able to break their DRM yet?

>>159186723
It is being streamed on amazon as well.

But who is actually watching these shows.
I'm only watching 2 of them and probably watching almost the rest from CR.

>>159186762
>Has someone been able to break their DRM yet?
HS was releasing some Amazon shows last season.

And here I was trying my best to actually pay for my anime. This is fucking bullshit.

>>159186762
>video
>DRM

>>159186762
>Are they doing simulcasts now?
No. They release their versions when the series is over in JP land.

>>159186983
Please don't give money to any of these jews.

>>159186961
I thought those were screencaptures.

>>159186983
Just buy BDs or source material of shows you like then. Your $6 a month for CR results in pennies going to the creators.

>>159187074
Re:creators is Amazon, when Amazon delayed an episode HS was delayed as well even when it already aired in Japan

>>159187016
Please feel free to offer a better, more comprehensive and legal service. Seriously, I really dislike the feeling of doing things illegally and will pay good money whether for physical or digital media to get what I want legally.

>>159187137
Everything you do results in pennies going to the "creators" unless you mean the big corporations funding anime.

>>159187137
This I already do however should do more of in the future.

Who cares? HS can rip from both CR and Amazon, right?

>>159187144
Screencaptures from amazon, not tv broadcasts.

>>159187248
They're not screencaps, retard.

>>159187199
I'd rather pay them than the barnacles selling streaming-only access to bad subtitles.

>>159187206
why? It's ok if you wanna support the industry, but you don't have to burn yourself spending over 500 bucks for each series

>>159187178
>I really dislike the feeling of doing things illegally and will pay good money whether for physical or digital media to get what I want legally
You're conditioned. Your kind is the reason they can get away with bad translations and bad video encoding.

>>159187309
Sure but don't fool yourself into thinking your money is making it into the hands of the people actually making the anime when you buy those things anymore than with Crunchyroll. Unless the studio is on the production committee you are just giving money to "jew corporations" in another country. Just look at GuP Movie, ACTAS actually lost money on that despite it being a huge success, because they have no place to share in that success due to not being invested in the show. They are just work for hire.

>>159187243
Then you could get problems like these >>159180577

Why hasn't the entirety of /a/ learned nip yet?

>>159187431
I tried and failing because I'm a lazy idiot.

>>159187425
But muh fandom will always do bestter work than any pro ever! And foo free!

>>159187431
with just english half of /a/ can't read for shit, now you want them to learn another language?

>>159187467
To be honest, there are some things that professionals often get wrong due to not actually caring about the work they are doing specifically and not being invested in the fandom at all. Like how Tsukihi's "Platinum Mad" recently got translated as "Dagnabit Mad" in the LN translation.

Surely someone will sub Fate. That's ~100k+ downloads guaranteed, even the laziest fansubbers will get off their asses to milk that.

So the only show that's fucked is Kakegurui.

>>159187555
fuck you, that's the show i'm more hyped for ;_;

>>159187425

Kakerugui is Netflix, not Amazon.

>>159187013
Are they literally retarded?

>>159186682
When the hell did Amazon confirm Symphogear S4?

Hey at least the fansubs are making a comeback, shouldn't we all thanks Netflix for being so fucking stupid.

>>159187675
Don't underestimate normalfags. I know at least one person who doesn't care about the current season, and just waits till the end of the season to marathon the entire thing, or drop it on the third episode.

"When I'm really into it, I hate to have to wait for the next episode and the conclusion".

>>159186945
katsugeki is one of the most anticipated series this season and one of them is literally a fate title.

>>159187702
Say what you will about the quality of CR, but they're the fastest and most consistent. The alternatives now are waiting for Netflix to release the whole show at the end of a season or some random group subbing days after an episode airs (and potentially dropping the show)

this is /a/. we pirate anime here.

>>159186682
Between competition and cost cuts CR is basically terminal.

They are even trying to sell Anime on Steam

>>159187775
Where do you think do you get your fucking Chinese Cartoons? From gg? UTW? FFF? Mazui? Evetaku? Chihiro? Nope. They're dead, and they should be.

>>159187774
fuck, i can't marathon for shit now and episode threads are the ones i post the most, this is just wrong

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>>159187248
>>159187277
>>159187144
>>159187074
>>159187006
None of you know what the fuck you are talking about. Amazon webrips are currently being made by some groups using lossless stream dumping and HS is probably using the lossy version that everyone knows. The lossless method is being kept secret for now but a week ago at least one person said they perfected the tooks for webdl and some other people were reportedly selling tools for it.

The last time flawless webdl was made public some retard leaked it and it was patched.

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>N-netflix will save us from shit subs and increase quality!
>Apocrypha
>Blame

>>159186682
on the bright side it's mostly Amazon and not Netflix.

Netflix anime translations are shit tier.

>>159187952
Amazon has fucked up 4 Re:creators episodes in a row

>>159187820
I get them from wherever they are free. that used to be fansubs until it became easier to leech off the slaves that pay for it. like the rest of /a/. anyone doing anything other than pirating or buying straight BDs isn't /a/.

>>159187896
Finally someone answers what I wanted to know.

I agree that the method being private is for the best, as long as I get high quality amazon rips.

>>159186682
what does CR have other than Horsepussy, Foxpussy and Isekai restaurant?

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How is CR having all the shows in the first place a good thing?

Amazon fucks up more than CR does, but it's good to not have all the eggs in one basket.

>>159188267
Fast subs?

>>159188267
some people probably defend it by saying that you can watch shit for free legally with CR

if you wait a week that is

>>159186682
I don't want how this thing works. If amazon have a show, crunchy can't broadcast it?

So if you have a crunchyroll account and you want to watch fate you have to get a netflix account?

Just curious, don't know how these services work.

>>159187178
I just cannot understand this mindset, even though I see it a lot online with people who rail against piracy/adblock/etc.

Why do you feel obligated to give anyone money, especially when you don't like said company. It's bad enough when some people jump to white-knight stupid corporate decisions, but now it's starting to extended to more-and-more of the internet as everything is getting monetized in some capacity.

Buy physical shit when it appeals to you, pay monthly for good value/convenient services, and donate to things you completely believe in. No commercial transaction should be performed out of obligation or sympathy.

>>159188194
It's a problem, though, because apparently Amazon keeps releasing new types of DRM and they need someone to pay for the subscription.

And it kind of bothers me that fewer and fewer people are able to rip, if the mass suppliers are arrested we might all be fucked.

>>159188376
Each service licenses the distribution rights per region. If they have it, generally nobody else gets it, or if they do it will be way down the line when it doesn't matter anymore.

I've been out of the loop for a year, why do we give a fuck about any of this?

>>159188506
Because hating on crunchyroll is trendy.

>>159188378
it's basically theft, that mindset is stupid, i agree with you, but some people still feel guilty for not giving their money to big corporations

>>159188482
isn't Amazon buying the rights globally recently?
CRs regional difficulties are quite annoying to me as a Europoor, since my shithole country doesn't get half of what the rest of the EU gets.

>>159188506
In case of Netflix, you won't see anything at all until the anime finishes airing, so you have to wait months to watch it.

>>159188506
where do you think people rip shit now?

>>159188527
Who the fuck uses CR?

>>159188588
Is it not airing on actual channels we can get raws from?

>>159188376
That's pretty much it. Broadcasting licenses are usually exclusive for certain regions.

>caring if it's on amazon

I do have CR but anything not on it i just Pirate.

>>159188613
>Who the fuck uses CR?
HorribleSubs, most notably.
>actual channels we can get raws from
Sure, but nobody's going to translate, sub, and time it anymore.

>>159188588
Wait, what? Why can't we just get the raws?

>>159188613
>Is it not airing on actual channels we can get raws from?
You have to hope an actual translator group picks it up. Like Little witch Academy this season.

You realize most "TL" groups just rip Crunchy and edit the subs a bit and paste it onto a raw.

>>159188699
I meant with subs. Raws are still fine, but fansubbing is mostly dead.

>>159188267
1) If you want to watch everything legally then you just have to pay for 1 subscription instead of 3+.
No-one wants to see anime go the way of cable TV where you have to spend huge amounts of money to get all the different packages to watch the stuff you want.

2) CR subs tend to be at least passable, in contrast to Netflix.

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>>159186682
Literally zero of those shows I'm actually looking forward to watching, and I'm only actually watching Symphogear out of that list.

More importantly, who's gonna sub Action Heroine Cheer Fruits?

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>>159188727
We deserve this.

>>159188714
It's probably the full webrip and subs, I'd be surprised if any raw is involved lmao.

>>159188695
Apologies, I should have clarified. I know HS uses it but I mean who on /a/ uses it? Last time I was here nobody mentioned CR aside from the rare delays and shit affecting subs.

>Sure, but nobody's going to translate, sub, and time it anymore.
Aw fuck, what have I missed?

>>159188527
Pretty much this

>>159188779
>Aw fuck, what have I missed?
The last 10 years? There are hardly any translator groups left.

>>159188267
I can just watch shit on CR with ublock on

>>159188779
Fansubs are dead, people just rip from commercial sources. From what I have read CR is the easiest to grab subs from.

Now HS might not have the links in the web rip/dl community to get their hands on both the tools and money or access to subscriptions as the current webdl method works for both NF and Amazon up to 1080p.

>>159188378
It's not like I'm any different than anyone on this board, I pirate shit all the time too. But I really don't get it when people act like there's literally nothing wrong with it whatsoever. Yeah, the risks are incredibly low, yeah, you get your stuff faster, yeah, the companies won't go bankrupt if a few thousand people pirate their shit, yeah, the studios don't get the money. I understand that. Those may be good enough reasons to pirate stuff. But it still doesn't make pirating the 100% right thing to do.

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>>159188779
>I mean who on /a/ uses it? Last time I was here nobody mentioned CR aside from the rare delays and shit affecting subs.

>Nobody uses it, normalfags not allowed on muh secret club.
>But everybody notices when something goes wrong.

Yeah, absolutely nobody here uses /a/.

>>159188779
>what have I missed
Daiz killing anime

>why do we care?

First: Fansubbing is pretty much dead thanks to CR/Funi whatever.
That is a problem.

Second: Netflix means no Netflix subs until next season so you either hope some group fansubs it or you just give up

Third: If Amazon has it you need to pray that they didn't update their DRM.
If they did you will need to pay for it.

CR killed fansubs but them getting shows is better than Netflix or Amazon getting them because CR are lazy leeches running ancient tech without DRM

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>Symphogear gets licensed by Funimation during S1 and ignored asides from being on their website
>G gets ignored altogether by both official and fansubs for weeks
>GX gets picked up by CR a month after it started airing
>AXZ is being done by Amazon

>>159188964
If fansubs stop becoming readily available, fansubs groups will pop back up. The reason fansubs gruops stopped subbing was because they couldn't get attention because everyone could get CR rips quicker

>>159188921
People notice because of HorribleSubs, anon.

>>159189011
Whatever makes you sleep at night, anon.

>>159189002
This time, they won't. And it's good that way.

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ITT: Retards, streamtards and HS apologists
Shit thread.

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>>159187736
>"When I'm really into it, I hate to have to wait for the next episode and the conclusion"
What if instead of bitchslap you I beat you with a bat because I would hate to wait until you die

>>159188918
I I unironically a judge in a central European country and while I agree with your sentiment, the problem is of a different kind. In case of anime you pay for the experience but also because of the studio. Studios however dont get shit from CR or other streaming services, very often due to international licensing rights etc. If there was a Japanese alternative to CR that would properly sub and that would assure me that money actually goes to the people who made what I like then I'd pay a hundred bucks or more on subscription fees a month. As it stands right now, I'll support the studios through BDs (of which they hardly get anything either) but I sure as hell wont financially support some shadey licensing monopoly that provides a dogshit services while leaving the actual animators in the dirt.

>>159189071
Hey man, I'm just telling it like I remember it. Why pay money for something you get for free?

Before you could pay ten bucks and watch everything. Now you need to pay at least thirty.

>>159188779
The people on /a/ who use CR are irrelevant normalfags. The only problem with CR losing ground is that most new sources are somehow even shittier at this moment in certain aspects. For example, Anime Network has piss-colored watermarked hardsubs, and Amazon constantly delays some of their shows and their subs of Re:Creators had some horrible mistranslations. Then there's also Netflix' bullshit.
This is all bullshit that even the people here who download HS rips have to put up with.

>>159188768
Funny, that list contains literally every show I'm planning to watch this season

>>159189175
>Next new season thread
>Moe shit, battle shounen shit, moe shit, fujoshi shit...
>Why Japan produces all this shit?!
>Because that's what it sells, that's why!

I have said this a thousand times: the average fujoshit willing to drop some pocket change is much more important to the anime industry than the entirety of this board.

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>>159186682

>Fate/Apocrypha
>Netflix

>>159186682
Thank goodness CR and Funishit are getting killed and raped by Amazon. Amazon are literally saving anime by throwing in millions of dollars at the Japanese side of the industry.

The second big companies like Netflix and Amazon decided to dabble in anime, with their massive amounts of money to throw around, any company that dealt specifically in anime (and did a shit job at it, e.g. Crunchyroll) was toast.
Netflix/Amazon can buy up whatever they want and they still can't lose. If they actually see that consumers have a big interest in that sort of media, they might even put some effort into it. Netflix already is, doing their own dubbing and getting halfway decent translators on their shows, and even throwing actual funds at the studios.

>>159188768
Not even Ballroom?

>>159189415
Not interested desu

>>159189415
He seems to be into cute girl action shows like Frame Arm Girls, that kind of genre, let him be. I'm surprised he doesn't want to watch Battle Girl High School: Battle Girl Project.

>>159189541
I am watching Battle Girl High School: Battle Girl Project though

>>159189391
So the cyberpunk hellhole is becoming reality?

>>159188226
The kinghts and magic garbage isekai with a trap mc.

>>159189626
Yeah, sorry, I only noticed now that OP didn't include it in the picture despite being licensed by Sentai.

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>>159188613
I do I have a plenty of disposable income, why not.

>>159189290
B-but i have heated and fiery debate about sales and studios on this board every day! Are you saying i'm irrelevant to the industry?!

>>159188588
Honestly the attitude is stupid. He is just projecting onto everyone else the fact that he doesn't import.

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>>159189749
Well fuck

>>159186682
>Amazon
So nothing? Their shit is literally the same as CR, HS may not rip from amazon for now, but someone else will, I watched Onihei a few seasons ago and it was just fine. Netflix is literally cancer, but this is fucking Fate, so some group will definitely sub this.

>>159189391
Netflix's subs for LWA are even worse than Asenshi.

>>159189895
You only found out now, eh? It's not on Amazon, it's on this new HIDIVE dog shit from Sentai, good luck anon.

>>159190040
lol

>>159189165
As I said, I understand why the studios/animators not getting paid enough is a good enough reason for people to pirate. But the production commitee system wasn't simply created to fuck over studios, it basically serves to reduce risks - there's a good reason for its existence. So the big companies that everyone hates so much are also part of the reason why we're getting so much anime nowadays. Could we do with less anime overall? Yes, the market's bloated as fuck. Are the studios getting fucked over and should get more money? Of course! That wasn't really my point. I just find that people act incredibly entitled when they act like they're doing nothing wrong, despite being able to get so much shit for free. I understand if you don't feel bad about pirating, but I don't understand why you would go around and tell other people they're dumb for actually paying for a product.

>>159190175
>But the production commitee system wasn't simply created to fuck over studios
Stopped reading there.

>>159190357
He is right though. Anime studios don't have to use that system. They do it because it protects them from going bankrupt if their anime fails.

>>159190131
>Never forget...a believing heart is your magic!
>It's your belief in yourself that makes up your magic.

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>>159190482

>>159189290
See >>159187137. BDs and shit are the better avenue than CR. So, why pay money for something that barely benefits the creators, that you can get for free? Save your money, buy BDs with it.

>>159190585
My eyes.

>>159190175
>why you would go around and tell other people they're dumb for actually paying for a product.
If you force off enough users by saying "you are stupid, you can get it for free and better!" eventually the provider has to adapt their business model. That's how we got streaming in the first place, because nobody was buying CDs - they were getting their music for free and better. Not saying that music streaming is the holy grail, but it's a better model than CDs for todays market

>>159186682
>Hell girl S4
what

WHAT

>>159190644
BDs really aren't all that much better as a way to support actual animation studios unless the studio is on the production committee of the show. They are a good way to support individual anime and increase the chance of getting more of it made though.

>>159190482
Asenshi's translation is most accurate, herkz.

>>159190727
Apparently 6 of the episodes are reused ones from previous seasons, weird shit.

>>159190585
Each of those are a different variety of cancer.

Fuck, subbing is truly dead. Good thing I've been practicing moonrune reading/listening.

>>159190585
JPN BD is the best one to be honest. Or Asenshi if you don't pay attention and can't tell who they are talking about unless explicitly mentioned.

>>159191003
It's all the same if they aren't on the production committee unless the studio is the actual company producing/selling that specific piece of merchandise which usually isn't the case.

>>159189215
>Anime Network has piss-colored watermarked hardsubs
Sentai just killed off Anime Network and has setup HIDIVE to replace it which apparently now uses softsubs.

>>159191003
For example, Ancient Magus's Bride is mostly funded by WIT and Production I.G, if you buy shit and Japanese products for that, yes you do support them to an extent. This only counts to anime with production committee's that have their studios in a majority on the production and those cases are very rare. I.G Port, the is also the company of the magazine where the Magus manga is being published, so buying the manga also helps.

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Crunchy sucks, HorribleSubs is where it's at.

>>159191202
It's becoming more common.
SHAFT setup their online shop recently
http://shaften.shop/
KyoAni and Trigger have one.

>>159191077
I remembered that seconds after posting, like a moron. In that case then, there's no real way to support a studio directly outside of fringe cases like Trigger.

>>159191276
>The thing that HS rips is shit.

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>>159190585
>gets criticizes

>>159190709
That may be true, but what would be the alternative (we're talking about legal stuff here, so watching for free and buying the BDs or directly giving money to the studios afterwards isn't an option)? How is a company like CR or Amazon supposed to somehow improve the clout of anime studios when it comes to production and legal decisions? Even if there was a way to do it, I think it would result in the costs for the final consumer going up (just look at what BDs cost in Japan), which would turn people's interest away.

>>159190920
What even is the word used in the original there? 炎上?

>>159191298
Also there is a real way when they are on the production committee or their parent company is. It's not as if no studio ever besides KyoAni ever has an presence on a production committee.

>>159191322
One of those is free

>>159188267
This
it isnt
now that theres actual competition on the western anime market we as consumers can only win.

>>159191276
weak bait

>>159186682
This is a good thing, trust me I'm a goybertarian.

>>159191429
In that case, aren't we back to the argument of BDs being better than Crunchyroll?

>>159191643
Japanese side wins because they get more money too.

>>159191643
Us westerners sure do win by having to pay 5 different monthly subscriptions to see the 6 shows you are interested in.

>>159191701
Not as such, the majority of the time studios are not on the committee. I was just making the point that its not as if no studio ever is. It isn't a black and white thing where its all one way or the other. It is a case of looking at the specific show and who invested in it.

>>159191339
You're really going to ask a hobby consumer to ask a problem of global digital distribution? I certainly don't have the means to try things out as right holders do.

Something like twitch donations would be a good way to handle it I think. Watch and you can donate money to certain parts involved in the production of what you're watching - the distributors get a cut of it all.

>>159191809
Fuck off retarded streamfag.

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>>159187352

>>159191643
What is it exactly we can win?

>>159191887
Remember the whole way CR was shitting on their dumb subscribers by decreasing video quality after a week, they did it for months. CR never had "offline download" dogshit.
Amazon comes in with the best video quality, putting them to shame and offer offline downloads and immediately after CR also say they will offer offline download shit.

>>159191809
That isnt good, but better than there being an monopoly on the western anime market.
>>159191887
Better video encoding, better (and correcter) subs, better quality, no bullshit like cr downgrades, lower prices, more anime

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>>159186983
>paying for things

>>159187736
I got together with friends to watch the first episode of season 2 of SnK and some guy was like "wait only the first episode is out?" because he originally watched it on Netflix.

>>159191998
Too bad they don't put them to shame with regards to quality of subtitles or reliability of releases though and require you to pay for shitty 3D entertainment in order to be allowed the privilege of paying more to watch anime.

>>159192064
I doubt it will work like that. It hasn't with 2D TV where big players like Amazon, Netflix, Hulu and so on have been in competition. They don't compete on quality they compete on catalogs and having the best shows then holding those ransom.

>>159192139
>CR subs are anything but dog shit
Nice one, faggot.

>>159192220
Meant to say 3D TV.

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>>159192139

>>159187689
>>159188994
Amazon hasn't said anything about Symphogear. OP is just shitposting.

>>159192238
>>159192311
I'm not sure what your point is supposed to be. I am not praising Crunchyroll's subtitling at all. I am saying that its a shame that Amazon's still leaves much to be desired.

>>159192311
>what you want
>いただきます

>>159187736
Normalfags are the ones who care about watching shows while they air because they need to socialize about it every week. When it comes to enjoying the show itself, marathoning it is always superior.

>>159192311
>based 4kids

>>159192238
dumb fansubber

>>159186682
Someone please fucking kill Netflix
Batch releases are literal garbage

>>159192421
98% of /a/ subsists on discussing airing anime. It has nothing to do with being a normalfag and everything to do with the format the show is aired in. The greatest fans of a work want to see new material related to that work as soon as practicably possible. Being the kind of person that is happy to wait months after a broadcast to watch a show only indicates that you don't care very much about anime.

>>159192491
>Implying there are any fansubbers left.

>>159186682
Doesn't matter to me, their catalog is nearly non-existent in my region anyway.

>>159192632
Kill yourself, retarded tripshit.

>>159192238
>d-do i fit in with the cool kids now??

>>159192546
Rushing out to see something because it's new is normalfag behavior. Normalfags watch airing anime because they want to be part of "the community" on /a/ every week. The true fans value the work itself, so they wait till they can marathon it to get maximum enjoyment out of it.

>>159192817
No, waiting months to see something because you don't care enough about it is normalfag behaviour if anything. Only casual anime fans would do such a thing to currently airing series.

>>159188425
>they need someone to pay for the subscription
Hacked accounts are cheap as fuck. Netflix accounts cost $0.25, you can even buy them with paypal without going to the darknet or anything.

Well, a supplier can do it independently of a release group. Even if it's only possible to crack the drm 1% of the time, you only need one good rip.

>All the anime I was interested in won't be subbed immediately
Is this how it's going to be from now on/
The only relevant anime gets locked away from me?

>>159187431
Because most of the anons who claim to have taught themselves it suck shit at reading nip. They claim a ton of things from VNs and LNs only to be shown to be wrong on important details when the anime or official translations come out. Hell some anons thought Kagari was Kurisu in steins gate 0

>>159192311
>what you want
Yeah actually, but even Japanese BDs rarely have JPN subtitle tracks. The Japanese really hate the hearing impaired so much they can't even offer table scraps for them.

>>159193188
And yet every fucking variety how has those big-ass, oversized, partial subtitles for no reason

>>159193093
Yep, Amazon and Netflix are ruining everything. /a/ is going to regret giving CR shit now. We didn't know how good we had it.

>>159193404
You watch, people are so memed into hating crunchyroll at all costs that they will be in denial about how much worse things are this way for ages.

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>>159193337
I don't see what you mean, they are large to be readable, and short sections to be read quickly. It's standard practice everywhere.

>>159188267
You only pay for one subscription. If you want to go the legal way of course.
Also it makes sure sentai/anime network doesn't get them and we don't see that shitty yellow hardsubbed cancer.

>>159193404
No way is that happening. I'll be celebrating the death of CR and I welcome our new Amazon overlords with their deep pockets that actually help Japanese producers.

>>159194146
The funny thing is CR actually are Japanese producers.

>>159194227
wasnt that daisuki

>>159194146
>this delusion
amazon is in it for maximum profit down the road. Once CR is dead, amazon won't have anyone to outbid, and their cut will get even bigger.

>>159194322
No I mean they have setup an anime production/funding company in Japan "クランチロールSCアニメファンド" Crunchyroll SC Anime Fund as a joint venture with Sumitomo Corp. They fund shows and are on the production committee of shows, also known as being a producer.

>>159192929
You sound like a child with ADD, if anything. If you can't wait a few months to enjoy a show in the way that you want, not in the way that broadcast schedules dictate that you do, then you're not giving yourself the best experience.

>>159194227
Bullshit, they helped produce a few pieces of garbage and some shorts, really impressive, they probably barely chipped in any money.
I know they helped with Nanbaka, Masamune kun's revenge, some dog shit shorts, Idol Jihen.
Literally a bunch of garbage.
Meanwhile Amazon spends millions of dollars to get the best anime seasonally and sign crazy deals with Noitamina and Animeism for exclusivity of their shows.
How much is CR paying you to do shilling?

>>159194533
You're the delusional one.

>>159194667
They literally jointly own a company made for producing anime. There is no bullshit about it, its a fact.

>>159194643
Your assumption that everyone prefers to marathon shows is stupid and wrong.

>>159194842
What is that company and what anime did they fund.

Dammit, I just want to watch my Chinese cartoons as they air with reliable subs. Maybe I should stop being a lazy fuck and learn nip.

>>159194754
I know this will come as a shock to burgers, but "no, you're the x" isn't an argument

>>159194643
You sound like someone who doesn't really care much about anime if anything.

>>159194864
He seems to somehow think that it is objectively the best way to watch something.

>>159194884
クランチロールSCアニメファンド >>159194586

>>159194928
Nice job dodging my questions on the shows they helped fund. Probably a bunch of literal dogshit anime that is actually killing anime instead of helping.

>Nanbaka, Masamune kun's revenge, some dog shit shorts, Idol Jihen
If this is the type of stuff they help fund, they might as well just stick with subbing.

>>159186682
Its more like they didn't have any competitors until now and, its kinda impossible to compete with huge companies like amazon.

>>159195098
That has nothing to do with the claim that they are literally producers of anime, which is an objective fact.

Anyway I will humour you and list the shows I am aware of them being on the production committee for so far:
Space Patrol Luluco
Shonen Ashibe
Anne Happy
Kiznaiver
Nanbaka
Idol Jihen
Masamune Kuns's Revenge
Kemono Friends
Love Tyrant

>>159194864
Not at all. My claim is that you should enjoy anime in the way that you want, not in the way that you are forced to. If your preference somehow coincides with the broadcast schedule, then good for you. Then there's also the argument for seasonal discussion on /a/, but that isn't relevant.

>>159194928
I am patient and prefer consume anything in the way that I please.

>He seems to somehow think that it is objectively the best way to watch something
Bad reading comprehension. I didn't even imply that.

>>159195512
>My claim is that you should enjoy anime in the way that you want
Yet you are literally saying "only normalfags want to watch it immediately" and claiming true fans wait because its more enjoyable to marathon". Nice backpedalling.

>>159195411
>Trash that is killing anime
I was right. Bless CR for doing us such a good service!

>>159194146
>Amazon overlords with their deep pockets that actually help Japanese producers.

>Implying amazon is actually giving more money to japanese studios than CR.
>Implying any streaming service is paying more than a few pennies to Japan

You're baiting, right?

>>159195964
perhaps if amazon gets enough views, it puts the production companies into a better position for future negotiations, but that is probably just wishful thinking.

>>159195697
Your opinion of a list of shows isn't changing an objective fact. Out of interest what kind of works would you want to see them investing in to be doing good for the industry, give examples of shows. Just looking to see if you are actually applying any kind of logic to that judgement besides "I hate Crunchyroll"

>>159195964
>Amazon gets the best shows over CR and Funimation.
Gee, I wonder what happened, maybe they paid a fuck ton more than the competition.

>>159196294
Preferably original projects that aren't made by incompetent hacks. Or adaptations of high profile manga. You know, how Netflix are making an original anime with a great staff at Production I.G.

>>159195649
That wasn't me. My first post was >>159194643

Ultimately my point is that you should watch anime at whatever time and pace you want, so long as it will provide you with the best experience. That is what being a true fan is, getting the most out of a medium and not necessarily watching the next episode as soon as possible. I watch some shows as they air so that I can shitpost on /a/, but other shows that I feel I would enjoy more by waiting and watching at a pace of a few episodes a day, so I do that. There is nothing wrong with watching one episode a week if that is most enjoyable for you, but to claim that I am a casual because I would rather watch a show in a way that would give me the best experience and not in a way that gives you the best experience is stupid. Just read that sentence again and tell me that your (or the other anon's) view doesn't sound retarded.
>you're a causal because you don't enjoy things the way I do
I guess this is a pretty good summary of /a/.

>>159196168
Problem is quite probably CR already did this, and according to /a/, Japan still receives only pennies. In other words, CR received enough visits to jump from some random anime-only youtube into a legal company, which implies there's a lot of money to be made there. Based on the current scenario, either:

/a/ is right, Japan didn't get the upper hand, therefore they will keep receiving pennies and amazon will keep exploiting this fact.

/a/ is wrong. Amazon noticed the success of CR, and decided they want a slice of the cake too, which started a bidding war, which in the long turn will imply Japan wins.


Which, ultimately, implies CR was a blessing for the industry.

>>159196737
>Which, ultimately, implies CR was a blessing for the industry.
Their sacrifice will not be in vain, Amazon will take good care of us.

Amazon isn't the issue, Netflix is. I personally can wait 3/6 months for 1 or 2 shows but /a/ as a whole will die if that becomes the norm.

>>159196875
It won't, Netflix at most get 1-2 anime each season. Amazon get over 10.

>>159188015
In what way?

>>159196875
>/a/ as a whole will die if that becomes the norm.
Or /a/ will become a board to discuss mostly manga, seasonal anime only kids will leave and the quality will improve.

>>159196875
with Netflix, I just buy a prepaid card for a month and binge all the few shows that interest me on their (imho) pretty crap library.

Slight tangent: why has Amazon not bothered making a site designed for, you know, watching videos?
Even shitty pirate streaming sites have a better browsing experience, not to mention Netflix.

>>159196875
Amazon is fine for now, but they'll fuck over HS soon enough

>>159186682
For once, Daiz was right. Exclusivity contracts are a cancer on consumers.

If you're a streamfag infesting /a/, you need to tie a noose and neck yourself.

>>159189999
HS is ripping from Amazon, see Bahamut and Recreators from last season.
Netflix is the problem

>>159197470
The problem is that that's how the market worked with 3D shows as well, and companies make money hand over fist with that model. So the question is how do you fix it? I don't really see a solution given the way copyright and licensing work.

>>159186682
Amazon is the one with the heavy pocket. They will get all the shows.

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>>159195411
>they funded Kemono Friends

Based.

>>159197254
Except most manga discussion happens in general threads where people lust to read the latest chapter as fast as possible, "reading" even Korean scans and summaries before it comes out in a language they understand.

>>159197391
yeah their video site is awful.

Reminder adblock is illegal and you shouldn't be using it.

>>159197963
good thing I don't use it then

>>159187013
Usually Netflix Japan simulcasts every episode a day later without subs. The subbed version becomes available worldwide after the season finishes like Kakegurui is confirmed to be this season, or LWA the last one. I've read somewhere that they're thinking of simulcasting Fate/Apocrypha subbed. Let's hope that wasn't just a rumor and it will be confirmed.

>>159197717
Government regulations would probably be the only way, but good luck with that.

>>159196621
Nah I agree with you really on that front. I was mostly just arguing with the other guy because his opinion was retarded and it seemed like fun. I would say though that the majority of anime fans who are really into the medium would be wanting to watch the next episode as soon as possible. Hence why so many people are not fans of things like Netflix getting involved.

>>159199461
expecting customers to be patient might not be the best business model

>>159187408
That was Actas own fault for being retards.

>>159200527
Not really consequential to the wider point though. Animation studios generally do not directly benefit monetarily from the financial success of shows they work in.

>>159200589
No, usually, they'd get a small part of the profit.
Sure, others would rake in the big money, but Actas only getting a fixed amount of money instead of part of the profit was their own fault for accepting such a deal.

>>159200739
That is just wrong, usually they get paid a fixed amount. It's an exception to the rule when animation studios are entitled to any part of the profits. Sometimes they might be if its their own original anime. Sometimes they might be if they have invested in the show but this is rare.

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>>159197635
Don't forget Zero kara Hajimeru Mahou no Sho, with the best girl of the season. HS even got their releases from Amazon out in a fairly timely manner. It was Amazon that was always fucking up and lagging behind getting the episodes up.

>>159186682
https://fansubdb.com/wiki/Summer_2017