What went wrong?

Nothing went right to start with.

>>159178423
Goblin Slayer is not a tank. He has no business taking point for a bunch of casters.

it uses rape as a selling point and has harem elements. I'm not 14 anymore.

GS is a mary sue

>>159178490
are you 15 now?

>>159178423
It abandoned the sad rape for harem antics.

>mfw elf, dorg and lizard make it out of there alive

>>159178423
Needs more rape. And goblin slaying.

>>159178423
>hipster template thread
Fuck off.

Nothing went wrong, it's good.

>>mfw teleport scroll to the bottom of the sea

>>159178423
literally a picture of spot the MC.

>>159178423
Too many clones from other series.
I just can't take not-Lancer, not-Guts and not-Sorceress seriously. Elf is okay though probably because all Japanese elf look similar anyway.

>>159178423
not enough lewd

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>>159178423
Needs more rape and gob supremacy.

>>159178757
You forgot not-Amazon

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>>159178423
The lack of rape.

Nothing, it's great.

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>>159178817
I just now realized that wrench in the right thigh area isn't a fucking wrench stuffed down the side of his thigh armor.

It's a fucking piercing Jesus Christ I thought that wrench was supposed to be a subtle hint that the chaos corrupted still had some human in them

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>>159178585
>mfwnf

It was edgy rape garbage.

>>159178423
/tg/ had a few criticisms

"The main draw appears to be seeing the MC being super good at killing goblins, but this is undermined by how the author handles him and the setting around him. He's supposed to be super competent, but all his tricks and strategies are either just common sense or mechanics that are brought up by the author on the spot. The 'bottom of the sea' bomb for example is not only something that most PnP people have done or thought of before anyway, it's also an example of magic just appearing to solve a problem without context. Prior to it showing up, we have no idea that kind of magic exists. So instead of it being an example of the MC gaming the mechanics of his world to win, it's an example of mechanics being introduced out of nowhere for him to win with.

The other major sin is that the setting and characters are grossly inconsistent. It's portrayed as a standard JRPG setting 90% of the time, and only switches to a dark gritty setting following dark gritty rules when it's time to wank off how great the MC is. If this is the kind of setting where you can't get away with not wearing a helmet, then why the fuck is Goblin Slayer the only person with the sense to do this? If this is a setting where goblins are a major threat so effective at what they do that the average nest has a full stable of rapemares stolen from nearby towns, why are they treated as a minor menace that everyone looks down on? The answer is this: everything in the setting is designed to highlight how special and smart Goblin Slayer is. Instead of him being super competent, everyone is is incompetent. It's a textbook example of a narrative warping nonsensically around a character because ultimately the story is about masturbating over that character.

This, by the way, is the most damning and consistent sign of a legit Mary Sue being present in a story."

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>>159178757
>>159178814
Anyone who Apes Kamitani designs cannot be wrong

>>159178817
>>159178872
>>159178900
I just realized, is this Slaanesh poster from /tg/?

>>159178941
No idea

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>>159178423
Bullying gobs.

>>159178921
>Tall muscley woman being lovey dovey with somebody

Every time I see this I must also beat my dick like it owes me money. There is always room for strong woman.

>>159178457
>tank
stop

>>159178900
/tg/ is shit. Who cares. They even hate Overlord.

>>159178423
Not enough goblin genocide.

>>159178423
Gobs are still alive

>>159178423
A long catastrophic series of critfails coupled with a DM with no sense of tact.

>>159180777
>777 without trying
>Gobs are still alive
GS please go.

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>>159181069
Not until they all die

That elf is super cute, nothing bad happens to her right?

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>>159181354
Almost got raped.

>>159178900

/tg/ can kindly go fuck themselves.

>>159178900
But they're faggots who don't know about how the entire world is literally an rpg for the gods. Which if you take that into account...

>>159181466
Which just makes it a worse Rance.

>>159178900
>He's supposed to be super competent, but all his tricks and strategies are either just common sense or mechanics that are brought up by the author on the spot. The 'bottom of the sea' bomb for example is not only something that most PnP people have done or thought of before anyway, it's also an example of magic just appearing to solve a problem without context.

Portal magic was introduced before the scroll was used, so it's not introduced "without context". And did /tg/ name a smarter, more original idea?

>If this is the kind of setting where you can't get away with not wearing a helmet, then why the fuck is Goblin Slayer the only person with the sense to do this?

Nowhere is it stated that wearing a helmet is essential and all the heroes seem to do pretty well without one. It seems more like GS is just being overly cautious by wearing one.

>If this is a setting where goblins are a major threat so effective at what they do that the average nest has a full stable of rapemares stolen from nearby towns, why are they treated as a minor menace that everyone looks down on?

For the same reason that bandits are looked down upon - they are weak and would get slaughtered by anyone with skill, as they have shown to be. Their ability to kidnap ordinary women doesn't make them a threat to adventurers. Ordinary villagers who know about goblins are scared of them.

>>159178423
>What went wrong

Only one person in that picture is properly equipped.

>>159181599
You mean
>it not properly equipped
Priestess doesn't have a backpack. That slut will sleep on the ground.

>>159178423
there are no footprints

>>159178941
He is probably just lashing out now his god has been purged from both warhammer universes.

>>159178941
I don't remember anyone on /tg/ being so obnoxious about slaanesh by posting this exact pic over and over.

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>>159181623
She has a bag hanging from her shoulder, and she could always snuggle in my bed, if you know what I mean.

>>159183939
Whoa what the fuck happened to Slaanesh?

>>159178900
>Prior to it showing up, we have no idea that kind of magic exists.
Stop speedreading.
The wizardess mentioned GS bought a scroll from her literally just few chapters ago.

>>159181466
>literally an rpg for the gods.
* a tabletop game for the gods.
In this afterword the author also says he is into DnD.

The entire LN pander to /tg/ but they hate it for some reason.

Not enough graphic detail going into the goblin rape.

>>159184196
And the magic of that scroll could have been anything.

>>159184196

Pretty sure GS didn't buy it from her, he obtained it somewhere else and asked her to set its location.

>>159184345

No, that chapter also showed the witch setting the target of the portal scroll.

>>159184377
What chapter? In chapter five she only says that he needed some help with a scroll.

Lack of writing skill from the author part compounded by the proliferation of fantasy/isekai novels who appeal to the same tropes and yet try to differentiate themselves only by the premise, so that when the novelty of the premise wears off you're left with the same trite shit you've seen thousands of times before

>>159178900
>ultimately the story is about masturbating over that character
Welcome to Japanese fantasy.

>>159184546

Just checked again. My bad, you're right. It's only revealed to be a gate scroll right when he uses it.


Although this was somewhat foreshadowed when he asked the witch to help him with the scroll earlier, I guess that wasn't enough. I can understand people complaining that the scroll is an example of magic appearing to solve a problem without context. It wasn't foreshadowed enough.

I guess this is a problem when you don't want to give away too much about what's going to happen but also don't want to make it seem like you just pulled a solution out of your ass. To be fair, the magic scroll was hinted at multiple times in the past few chapters to be "extremely rare ancient magic" so it would have been reasonable assume it would be a powerful weapon of last resort of some kind.

Goblins are too weak. They don't make for an appealing antagonist.

>>159184029
Gone from fantasy after the universe reset and now the Eldar have kinda summoned their final god Slaanesh is soon to be fucked.

>>159178423
Priestess didn't get gobbed, that's what.

>>159183958
Probably a crossboarding lurker who doesn't post much. It happens.

>>159184792
in Chapter 6 of the novel:
"„Unwilling to take no for an answer, the elf glanced at the scroll out of the corner of her eye. “Isn’t that a magic scroll?” she asked. “I’ve never seen one before.”
At her words, not just Priestess but the dwarf and the lizardman leaned in for a look.
A magic scroll. An item sometimes found in ancient ruins, albeit very rarely. Unroll it, and even an infant could cast the spell written there. The knowledge of how to make them was long lost, even to the oldest of the high elves. Magical items were rare enough, but such scrolls were among the rarest of all. But for all that, they were surprisingly inconvenient items for adventurers. Any of an infinite variety of spells might be written on them, from the most useful to the most mundane, and they could be used only once, anyway. Many adventurers simply sold them—for a tidy sum—to researchers or collectors of curio. A wizard in the party was magic enough for them. They needed money more than scrolls.“

He used it 3 chapters later, in Chapter 9.

>>159178423
Nothing, it's literally perfect.

>>159178423
Should it only be Gobslayer and the priestess fighting alone in the dark and cynical world?
Too much party members and "NPC" who support him so warmly (Guild girl and Cow girl) make the atmosphere too bright for my taste.

>>159187902
Perfection is.

>>159187902
Curt Henning has something to say about that.

>>159185974
Not very often.

>>159178900
>speedreading
>low IQ
>no critical thinking
>no linguistics

It's like everyone becomes a retard when reading LN/manga so they can bash on it.

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>>159196127
Stop replying to yourself

>>159183958
Carnac? He's overly obsessive of Chaos in general.

>>159181578
Anon, you're not doing a good job of answering that guy's criticism. Portal scrolls weren't & that scroll, as others noted, could have been anything. Besides, /tg/ can come up with some crazy shit. The criticism altogether I've heard from others too. It's about how if a low ranking mob like goblins can headshot people, multiple times we've seen helmetless people get fucked, why don't more use them? In older times, a helmet was one of the first things you get. Another thing, bandits aren't shown with the abilities that gobs are & don't often deal the same level damage. It's closer to foreign raiders.

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>>159184617
>when the novelty of the premise wears off
13 chapters, 5 vol. LN so far and the novelty of the premise still haven't wears off though?
I still get my goblin slaying man just right.

>>159197688
Not that anon, but this isn't older times. This is fantasy, like lord of d rings or Narnia. Which in both of them important character also didn't wear helmet.

>>159184869
In AoS, the surviving Elves kinda fucked Slaanesh. Slaanesh was stuffed with Elf souls & they made Slaanesh puke.

>>159197827
Anon, lots of people wore a helmet in Lord of the Rings. Dwarves like Gimli, Orcs, etc.

>>159197970
Yeah but not the important character, like that prince guy or someshit.

>>159178423
summer on /a/ went wrong.
in a sense that it's summer all year round

>>159178423
it tried to create a dark and realistic world while sticking to traditional RPG/JGRPG conventions- resulting in a nonsensical and ridiculous world and making everyone look stupid

>/tg/ bandwagon

>>159178423
Elf bow exists to shove morality bullshit into GS's throat.
>Look, for the sake of my advance fantasy, you are prohibited to use any dirty tricks like explosion, poison or even traps

>>159178423
Nothing. It's fine.

>>159198271
Eternal summer for years.

>>159196127
>>159181432
>>159180436
Refute the argument in the post if goblin slayer is so great

>>159202300
>>159178900
ok

>common sense or mechanics that are brought up by the author on the spot.

Why would using common sense not be considered being competent? and the worst hes pulled out is the scroll, which he keeps asking for every time he goes shopping.

> we have no idea that kind of magic exists.
The blame here lies solely on the manga for not showing that the world revolves around DnD mechanics, the LN goes out of its way to make sure the reader knows the gods are playing DnD.

>portrayed as a standard JRPG setting 90% of the time, and only switches to a dark gritty setting following dark gritty rules when it's time to wank off how great the MC is.

Againm if youre only reading the manga then of course it comes out of left field, Gob Slayer is one of the few pieces that isnt being played directly by the gods and everytime he shows up the gods frown cause he is shitting on their "FUN"

>If this is a setting where goblins are a major threat

Thats the thing, they arent a major threat, even in the manga its been said that they are a plague at worst, there was an entire fucking chapter where the Guild was basically empty cause they all went to fight the Demon lords armies, the latest manga chapter shows how easily the adventurers massacre an army of hundreds of goblins when they barely have 60 people.

Seems to me the problem /tg/ has is that they are only reading the manga, and then they are speed reading and skipping the obvious words of foreshadowing, probably cause they want to fap to more gobbo rape.

>>159179108
This
There's something appealing about seducing something that can easily break you in half

>>159184345
So? Does that mean any time you see someone cast a spell that hasnt been mentioned beforehand is bad writing? Even when its been mentioned that they can cast a spell of some kind?

>>159203569
It would be like James Bond pulling out one of his gadgets that you have never seen before in a pivotal fight. There is something about writing fiction and magic that authors have to keep in mind. It's okay to showcase magic that the reader doesn't know about if it introduces this magic in the scene and the circumstances of the scene itself aren't that important. In a fight like this on the other hand you can't let your hero use a trick that the reader never saw before, because it destroys the suspension of the fight.

It wouldn't be a problem if we knew beforehand what the scroll was about and that it was about to get used in a different context.

>>159203887
So you are essentially telling me its bullshit when a wizard doesnt announce his list of spells before he casts something?

>>159203887
>you can't let your hero use a trick that the reader never saw before, because it destroys the suspension of the fight.
What kind of made up rule is this?

>>159203952
Depends. It can be vague, like we know that the wizard uses fire as magic, and if we know some general rules about magic then there is a lot of room for the author to work within without breaking suspension. But if the wizard is just a walking toolbox that has an automatic problem-solver for almost everything without any cohesion every time the author seems to write himself into the corner, then there is something wrong with the writing in general.

>>159204137
Its even dumber when the trick was foreshadowed 3 chapters ahead of time.
>>159204175
How can it be writing himself into a corner when the scroll was set up well before we even know ogres are a thing?

>>159204241
Did I say that the author of Goblin Slayer wrote himself into a corner? Because I think I didn't say that the author of this work wrote himself into a corner anywhere.

>>159204356
Not that anon, but you did imply that in your post.

>>159204356
Well then if he isnt
>just a walking toolbox that has an automatic problem-solver for almost everything without any cohesion every time the author seems to write himself into the corner
Then what exactly is the problem with the scroll?

>>159204558
Not properly foreshadowed.

>>159178423
The fucking obyous party shit

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>>159204652
im sorry what were you saying?

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>>159204652
>Sorceress specifically talks about how GS asked her for help with a scroll once
>Next chapter has elf lookijg aroing GS stuff, the scroll is show, she ask what it is but GS refuses to explain becaus "if the gobs capture you, they could get that information out of you".
No foreshadowing my ass

>>159178900
Not this stale pasta again. Why do you bother doing this every single thread?

>>159204765
What the hell is Sorceress smoking? I think she has permanent brain damage.

>>159204765
>>159204837
We don't know what it does and what his actual intention with the scroll is. Thus it's not properly foreshadowed. I can't believe this is so hard to get.

>>159204837
>>159204765
>inb4 that is not how foreshadowing works

>>159204923
>>159204939
Oh shit man, you got called out.

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>>159204923
Now you are just nickpicking for something to bitch about. What do you want? GS explaining specifically what his scroll does? He actually gave a reason why he refuse to explain.

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>>159204923
>>159204939

>>159178423
Not enough rape

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>>159204923
>It's not foreshadowing unless you are told exactly what it does and how the user intends to use it.
WEAK

>>159198227
>Gimli
>not important
Reread the books. During big battles, various characters are said to wear helmets.

If i wanted to read the LN, what chapter would a start on since i want to pick up where the manga is at(chapter 13)

or is it a 1 to 1 ratio?

>>159204923
>>159205026
Did you speedread this?

>>159204869
It's from a /tg/ thread a few days back. It's surprising new.

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>>159204923
Do you need every fucking thing listed for you?

If so then go read RE:Monster, im sure that's more suitable for your mental capacity.

>>159178900
It's a story about a guy who just wants to kill some fucking goblins, who fucking cares if he's a Mary Sue?

Someone has that pic of GS at home checking all his inventory?

>>159205106
Read the entire thing, the Manga skips out on lots of PoV chapters from the other characters and doesnt show the gods playing DnD.

>>159205026
>GS explaining specifically what his scroll does?
Yes, you should explain what you magic does, or else your magic becomes arbitrary. You don't need to go into needless details, certainly not when the explanation is a simple "bottom to the sea".

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>>159178900
>Exact same criticisms
>In the exact same order
>With the exact same sentence structure
>As all the previous threads

I know, this time I'll post it in /tg/ and then quote myself, that'll get me some fresh (you).

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>>159205259
I understand now, you are just a gob.

>>159205259
(You)

>>159205166
Goblin slayers not even a mary sue, unless /tg/ thinks a character being good at 1 thing that they have specifically trained for years at to be a mary sue quality.

Re:Monster is a perfect example of a real mary sue.

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>>159205259
It does not matter what the magic actually does, it could have been a fire ball or a black hole, or whatever,

all that matters is that the reader is made aware that is powerful.

fucking Goblin posters.

>>159205259
>>159204923
/tg/ here. God, you just embarrassed us.

>>159205438
Someone has the "in character" version of this pic?

>>159205485
yea, i like that one better but i cant find it, im sure i could if i combed the archive but, eh, whatever.

>>159202928
Not the anon who made that critiques but that's some shit defense.

Ita criticism is that GS isn't really all that smart. It's just everyone else is retarded. It then criticizes why these common sense tactics aren't more widespread.

/tg/ spent some time before criticizing the DM whenever that's mentioned. I admit that if I was in a campaign with this DM, I'd call bullshit a few times.

This sorta implies that the various other characters all are influenced and weirdly some aren't. This means that the Lancer & co have it but not various others.

Actually, they're plenty a threat as some noticed. Even experienced murderhubos can get headshotted, they can take over fortresses & apparently no one cares for their farming communities. The current situation was only because of GS' knowledge of goblins, having home turf & a wide number of advantages.

Oddly, I say this post doesn't make much sense. Either all of the other threats can somehow be more competent yet never enough to warrant wearing a helmet or elsewise.

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>>159205170
Nevermind, i found it. I remember some retards thinking that GS takes all that stuff in his quests, the idea of him just doing an inventory check at home never pass though their heads.

>>159205356
A Mary Sue is not necessarily a transgener half-demon half-angel otherkin. He can be described as a Mary Sue because the story and setting is built around him conveniently and he is always right about everything, loved by everyone, except the guys that are wrong and stupid.

>>159205448
Fa/tg/uy here, I'm honestly surprised that so few are mentioning all the other flaws with the setting.

>>159205259
I didn't know Matt Ward posted on /a/.

>>159205564
>Back up helmet

truly he is our guy.

>>159205564
I don't get why he'd get another helmet like that or armor like that.

>>159205561
>common sense tactics aren't more widespread
This is like arguing why all wizards aren't millionaires from casting wall of iron. Or why the economy isn't some sort of advanced magic-combo-fusion with magic powering the economy. That's just DnD alone, no other weird fantasy nonsense.

>they can take over fortresses & apparently no one cares for their farming communities
They're on the frontier and self-denfense is their own responsibility. Or any number of other reasons. Why are you trying to fit your own narrative about society into somebody else's setting?

>>159205275
I think the beginning of the post mentioned that it's copied from /tg/ Mr.speedreader.

>>159205736
Well, he is so handsome that girls get wet upon seeing his face so it makes sense for him to have a quick spare in case he loses his helmet in a girls populated area.

>>159205605
do you expect the MC to just be totally irrelevant or something, of course he has relevant skills for whats hes chosen to do, its not like hes doing anything major, hes slaying goblins, the lowest level monsters.

and saying hes beloved by everyone is a lie, plenty of other adventurers seem to dislike him.

>>159205561
Not the anon who made that critiques but that's some shit defense.

>/tg/s criticism is that GS isn't really all that smart. It's just everyone else is retarded. It then criticizes why these common sense tactics aren't more widespread.
your point is null and void, GS specializes in Gob Slaying and only gob slaying, are you seriously implying that a Paladin should have the skill set and knowledge of a Ranger?

Hell are you implying that 2 rangers that specialize in 2 different monsters should have the exact same knowledge about both?

Most of the adventurers have heard about Goblin Heros, but have never met one, and the only one that has any information about Goblin Lords is Gob slayer, you are seriously saying that all this information should be common knowledge? Do you know all the intricacies that go into rat extermination?

>/tg/ spent some time before criticizing the DM whenever that's mentioned. I admit that if I was in a campaign with this DM, I'd call bullshit a few times.
mention the other criticism then, cause what was posted was weak as fuck and explained in the LN.

>This sorta implies that the various other characters all are influenced and weirdly some aren't. This means that the Lancer & co have it but not various others.

Yes, that is a point of the story, Lance and Co are being dicked around by the gods, Haruhi is literally one of the Gods Player Characters as was the Demon Lord.

>>159205736
Because it's cool.

>>159205917
Yes, we haven't seen this roughly same post on /a/ every month on the 26th, no siree. But suddenly it's on /tg/ and a fa/tg/uy made it, right?

>>159205564
I find funny that crazy looking knifea ctually exists. Is an African knife designed to be thrown.

>>159205907
Not really, these are tactics which anyone in any setting might think of. Anyone can come up with justification like magic going away or rarity of magicians or multiple magically ways of discovering counterfeit goods.

It's closer to asking about why they aren't properly defended given the importance of food. Any local politician would spare some troops for home defense. Any hunters in the area would know how to track and more. It's the question of why it's so badly defended.

>>159205736
These helmets aren't even his first choice, he had to break the horns off them. I guess he really likes saving money.

>>159205971
It's all about focus, the goblin threat is the only threat that the reader sees and experiences, it's the only threat that matters. And all the people that dislike him don't matter at all, aren't important for the story and dislike him for the wrong reasons. Also I forgot that Goblin Slayer is handsome, and also basically flawless when it comes to his character, the little flaws he has don't cause any problems and are perceived as endaering, like his mild autism.

>>159206099
>Not really, these are tactics which anyone in any setting might think of.
How often do you seen npcs/background characters acting like they have a brain? What specifically do you have a problem with?

>>159206099
>It's closer to asking about why they aren't properly defended given the importance of food. Any local politician would spare some troops for home defense. Any hunters in the area would know how to track and more. It's the question of why it's so badly defended.
You do realize in real life exactly the same thing happened? Just pick a reason. If autism bothers you go pick one from history.

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>>159206099
>Dragons and the Demon Lord Army are raping the Capital.

>Hey lets devote some soldiers to this random ass village out in the middle of nowwhere.

You are retarded.

>>159206139
>mild autism.

he has full blown Neurosis, the Goblins mind broke him as badly as any of the women we've seen.

he can only think about killing goblins, he will never have a normal life ever again.

nothing goblin slayer does is out of the ordinary for any normal fantasy MC without a favored enemy.

>>159205979
This is pretty stupid.

A paladin would have enough common sense to wear head protection or not stab himself. A mage would have enough common sense to not lite themselves on fire. Despite that, I doubt many paladins are burning to death because they played with fire. Some of his tactics like setting traps a Rogue would have. Especially the helmet. People got those all the time. Even conscripts.

Besides the constant feats from little goblins which are way beyond a little kid, the effectiveness of a race that relies on swarming yet such relies on foreign rape for reproduction, the lack of reasons why some of the most basic stuff is lacking, etc.

So in-universe, we have people selectivity better & more DM beloved. That might explain why GS is still alive.

>>159206099
>my bullshit justification for a setting is fine but yours is not.

there are all kinds of reason why goblins are a problem, take your pick.

>Small towns cant afford experienced partys
>hit and run tactics keep gobos from being pinned down
>frontier setting where you have to watch out for your self

>>159206260
>Demons are coming
>We must devote all our resources into defeating them. With luck, we won't need a supply of food, peasants to tax, or anything else. With fortune, the peasants will send all their hunters or otherwise to aid us.

>>159206353
>Being so fixated on the helmets
It's a just a fun feature the mangaka added, a little hidden easter egg if you will. You can read the manga without even being aware that helmetless charcters keep geting hit in the head. Stop being such a fucking secondary and read the LN, and probably the manga too.

>>159206286
And all of that is cool and awesome, because it makes him kill goblins, which is the focus of the story and doesn't cause him any other problems.

>>159178423
Honestly the waifu element was stupid, you made a story about a crazy goblin slayer so make it about goblin slaying.
If you really must introduce heroines make them pop in and out of the story, have them be part of temporary parties, but the focus should always be GS gobbing the gob out of the lings.

>>159206511
>I haven't read the manga the post

>>159205332
This scene was easily the worst part of the series. It was cringey as fuck.

>>159206483
>his flaws not a flaw cause I say its not.

a big part of the LN is his party trying to rehabilitate him, but whatever, you have already made up your mind.

>>159206591
Wasn't that the point? GG called him out for it literally in the next page.

>>159206174
The problem is why are they so stupid? I'm surprised they're not choking to death on oxygen. I see what that anon is saying.
>>159206227
Exactly. Real life lords knew to protect their people. It's how feudalism worked. Without the lords, no protective. Without the peasants, no income or food.
>>159206260
This is like saying that an army should abandon their base when an enemy is coming & not even leave anyone to watch & protect home or that when going to war, every weapon is to be brought & nothing to protect home. That's pretty dumb.

>>159206571
All I see is GS going around with a pet cleric and a party of noisy archetypes tagging along.

>>159206630
I don't really feel like that excuses the scene.

How far behind is the manga compared to the LN? I noticed Yen Press is only one volume behind on this one.

>>159206397
How about "My Dungeon Master said so"?

>>159206610
Tell me when these flaws somehow become a problem and cause him harm.

>>159206651
>Why are villages unprotected
You do realize in real life exactly the same thing happened? Just pick a reason. If autism bothers you go pick one from history.

>>159206751
they cause him harm from his inability to have a normal life, unless you think killing goblins 24/7 is a great life.

its the same way Frank castle is flawed, he cant let go of his pain and can never enjoy life because of it.

>>159206467
No it can't. GS shows plenty of people playing to JRPG tropes and dying because of it. It juxtaposes various cases where GS gets something right where others don't because he did something like wear a helmet. It doesn't have justification for why he's the only one because even inbred drafted folk would doing something better than the common adventurer.

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>>159179000
>waaaaggh
hehe, also checked

>>159206722
>im going to ignore all those legitimate reasons.

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>>159206870
>No it can't.

>>159206842
But this is what this story is about, and we all enjoy his goblin autism and are here not to see him having a normal life, but killing goblins. So far it hasn't done him anything bad. It's like saying smoking is a flaw when the fictional character that smokes never has any health problems.

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>>159178900
>Instead of him being super competent, everyone is is incompeten
Don't forget goblins being efficient when fight everyone else, then becoming retarded when fight GS.

Female party builds a formation, Goblind accurately hits the head of the center of formation with a rock breaking the formation and allowing to take over.

Goblin slayer is attacking goblins from afar with Prietess supporting him next to him Goblin accurately throws a rock...at the head of GS that has a helmet instead of attacking the prietress.

>>159206353
>A paladin would have enough common sense to wear head protection or not stab himself. A mage would have enough common sense to not lite themselves on fire. Despite that, I doubt many paladins are burning to death because they played with fire.

so you're going for complete absurd ism to deflect now.

>Some of his tactics like setting traps a Rogue would have. Especially the helmet. People got those all the time. Even conscripts.

This point and the previous point have exactly zero connections, how does a person stabbing himself = not buying a fucking helmet?
And now to use your own dumbass argument against you, "we havent seen a rogue go into a cave, therefore no rogues have gone goblin hunting" see how retarded that sounds?

>Besides the constant feats from little goblins which are way beyond a little kid,
Like what? getting hit by a fucking rock to the head?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I8mLBCelpA [Embed]

>the effectiveness of a race that relies on swarming yet such relies on foreign rape for reproduction, the lack of reasons why some of the most basic stuff is lacking, etc.

Do you need a National Geographic documentary to go into detail?

Goblins kidnamp female, goblins rape female, in less than 3 months female gives birth to batch of goblin that are ready to rape in days.

>>159206833
And we have idiots who lite their balls on fire in real life too. The survivors decided not to follow. Any lord with a brain would know that his source of income is from his people. Let them die or starve because of goblin attacks, no more income. This is true for anybody. Leave your home unlocked & possessions everywhere & you risk getting robbed.

>>159206651
>>159206461
> army should abandon base

The literal capital was getting bumfucked, if people from a major city give no shits to a goblin infestation happening under their own feet, why would they devote anything but a subsidy to a remote ass village so they can hire some mercs to deal with it?

do you expect the national guard to show up in eerie Indiana when a farmer has a rat problem?

>>159206961
> So far it hasn't done him anything bad.

hes shown ignoring people who care about him in favor of killing gobos, literally throwing away happiness for more goblin killing.

like i said though, no one changes their mind on 4chan, people just keep moving goalposts.

>>159178423
Should have focused on GS and his sidekick only. Goes from dark with small points of light heartedness to light heartedness with small points of dark.

>>159206999
Let me spell this out for you, since you are retarded.
Villages were often unprotected in real life, often in times of war. If you have a problem with this you also have a problem with actual historical fact.

>>159206901
None are legitimate. Small towns can still have hunters or some local defense. Hit & run tactics or any tactics rely on their users being fit. I've seen a racoon or something do some hit & run trash raiding yet secure it a bit & they fail. For a frontier setting, you'd have people doing stuff like foraging & pushing ahead. Hunters would seek animal homes or trees for fruits.

>>159206651
>>159206461
These are not the big and wealthy farms providing food for the entire country. Its shitty little farms attached to a bumfuck nowhere village out on the fringes of human territory.

And if you send a bunch of troop to defend that and lose a major population center like a city or the capital as a result your economy takes a huge hit because that city was a major trade hub ripe for taxing and bringing wealth into the country.

>>159206751
in the next arc the party almost gets wiped because his autism and his social awkwardness prevents him from saying no to the elf.

While his single minded rage boner for goblins pushes him to take on a nearly impossible task.

>>159207128
I haven't moved my goal post once. Goblin Slayers flaws are meaningless for the story. They certainly don't make him a bad person and are not presented as stemming from bad character traits. He ticks some Mary Sue boxes.

>>159206999
again take your pick, the fact that people are turning to mercs to deal with goblins makes it clear that they are very far from any source of government.

>Small towns cant afford experienced partys
>hit and run tactics keep gobos from being pinned down
>frontier setting where you have to watch out for your self.
>its more cost effective to simply let the goblins raid and make off with w few women.

>>159206693
The manga its at the very end of the first volume. There are 5 volumes released in japan and 2 relased in english by yenpress, third volume (LN) will be released in two months.

>>159207263
Good, if this happens I will shut up about it.

>>159206870
>playing to Jrpg tropes

Gee, its like the author is shitting on the common JRPG tropes and how it would end up with people getting gobbed.

>>159207231
These measures are not sufficient. Wow that was difficult. inb4 N-no, they are.

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>>159207326
>if

>>159207231
>Small towns can still have hunters or some local defense

Yes, which is why they dont hire the adventurers until the goblins become a problem, you seem to think that all towns in the setting for some reason arent able to deal with a goblin problem on their own.

If this was true then Goblin Slayer wouldnt have to stop by the guild several times a week asking if there are any Gob Slaying quests, he would go directly to GG and ask for the next one, and its been shown that there is downtime where there are no goblin quests, and not because GS finished them all.

>>159207231
>Small towns can still have hunters or some local defense.

ok, they got killed by gobs, since they where likely a small and inexperienced force.

>Hit & run tactics or any tactics rely on their users being fit.

no reason to think goblins cant do this, raid a town and get back to your caves before any adventurers are called in.

>For a frontier setting, you'd have people doing stuff like foraging & pushing ahead. Hunters would seek animal homes or trees for fruits.

not everyone pushes ahead, people stop and decide, "okay, this is a good enough spot to start a town"

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>People seriously trying to defend "Only GS is smart enough to wear a helmet in a setting wear a well placed rock can blow you the fuck out and get your raped to death"

>>159181153
>Guts
>Not Gobs

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>>159206987
Common sense anon. There is common sense universal to people in a group regardless of occupation. A paladin isn't stupid enough to lite himself on fire even if he lacks any fire magic.

It's common sense. Both are common sense things which even inbreed village idiots know better to do. The point is that GS isn't smart or clever. He's somewhat normal in a world of retarded idiots. Unless the goddess favors 90% of the population, there should be a sufficient portion of the people who don't have magic head protection & at least have an idea to guard their head.

Jumping multiple feet, ripping wooden staves apart with their bare hands, having any sort of numbers, etc.

In other words, multiple months of food and care per goblin before anyone is even born. Besides having numbers despite how stupid such a method is, it needs resources too. Unless goblin semen is extremely nourishing and disease preventing, that's quite a required.

>>159207273
>someone has to have bad character traits to not be a mary sue

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>>159207315
I imagine the choice is either read YP or learn moon, right?

Is the translation at least okay? I know their No Game No Life translation was a crime against humanity.

>>159207609
You've been asked multiple times what this unique common sense you talking about is, the only one you've mentioned is helmets, which has aleady been shot down.

>>159207501
>raid a town and get back to your caves before any adventurers are called in.

Thats exactly what Goblins normally do. This whole thing with the goblin lord and plans to occupy the farm and start attacking the village directly to start conquering the area is rare as hell to the point where none of the other silver ranks have seen it before and those lower ranked have never even heard of it.

Normally goblins just set up in old caves and ruins and raid small settlements for food and women without any bigger plans or organization.

>>159207346
Thus any problems with his representation, up to & including inconsistencies & contradictions, could also be mentioned. He toys with them but it's odd how in-universe these tropes are in effect despite how fatal they are.

>>159207696
The demons for sure. As loathsome as they are, the goblins are doing what they have to to further their race, while GS is just reacting to that.

>>159207740
Not really, people used to think that smoking was good for you, despite all available evidence. Culture is just funny like that.

>>159207178
Seeing as you don't read enough, various leaders spare men to defend home. When bandits attack, you have some sort of defense. They don't leave their homes 100% defenseless. People aren't so stupid that they leave their income that unprotected.

>>159207609
Why are you repeating common sense without even making a point?

Wearing helmet?
weve seen other adventurers wear them.

The army not immediately dropping everything to help a remote village in bumfuck nowhere cause one of the farmers daughters went missing?

People not automatically knowing there is a rope in a random spot in a dark cave?

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>>159207777
Goblins were created by the same evil god as the demons and for the sole purpose of being a plague on the other races, hence them needing rape for reproduction.

>>159207273
>I haven't moved my goal post once.

>>159206139
>Also I forgot that Goblin Slayer is handsome, and also basically flawless

>>159206751
>Tell me when these flaws somehow become a problem and cause him harm.

you say GS is flawless then move the goalpost by admitting he has flaws but that it dies not matter since now i have prove that the flaws harm him, i did so>>159206842

and now you say, that does not count it has to negatively effects his ability to kill gobos.

>>159207925
Yes, but that doesn't make them evil. They're just acting in their nature. Much like fire.

I mean, sure, wipe them out, but they're a symptom not the actual sickness.

>>159207261
In other words, local people can afford all their farming essentials but no one made their scythe into a spear. No one goes logging I guess so no axes. No people collaborating for defense.

And therefore, not even the smallest of guards are allowed to stay. Because even when the capital is threatened, no demons will take advantage of that and consider the vulnerable countryside a tasty target. Especially because these people grow food.

>>159207842
> a village of about 20 families.
>has around 80% of all able bodied men conscripted.
>leaving only 2 or 3 guys left behind to protect the village.

Gee you're right, how could these 3 farmers not be able to stop every single chicken from being stolen and immediately surmise it was goblins that did it, and not every other possibility?

It was interesting when he showed up but i've quickly noticed with my higher than /a/ observation skills that the author will not kill off any important party members unless its the minor ones or deathflagged ones and GS will always be right

>>159207842
I see, you have a problem with historical fact, glad we sorted that out.
>100% defenseless
Doesn't happen even in the manga.
Here's your
(You)

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>>159207977

>Oh cool a medieval fantasy manga
*gets harem and turns to shit*
How do we stop this?

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>>159178585
bottom of the sea is fucking nasty

>>159207842
This is not their home though. Its a tiny frontier village out on the fringes of human territory. If there is a military force left its probably guarding the bigger towns and cities in the area and would take days to weeks to be dispatched to this tiny village.

>>159207996
I don't know what manga you were reading but it sure as hell wasn't Goblin Slayer.

>>159178814
and not-Helck

>>159208066

>that gif

Imagine being a human and sucked through that hole

>>159207289
Turning to Mercs without any attempt to fortify themselves? If various people get the wrong idea about goblins because they fended off a few goblins outside their cave, why is that necessarily? Form up a militia or a guard.

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>>159208064
By buying more manga like Goblin Slayer.

>>159208064
The girls are trying to turn it into a harem, GS just wants to kill goblins.

>>159207413
>They just don't
I guess the goblins stole all the brains of the people.

>>159207973
>"basically"
>"little flaws he has"
>reading comprehension

>>159207977
Yeah, they aren't evil. They just happened to have been created by an evil god to specifically do evil things and just so happen to enjoy doing those evil things.

>>159207996
yes because the 3 fuckers that are left in the village will guard it from all and any threats.
They will immediately know that a villager going missing is signs of a goblin nest.

they will know exactly how the goblins will attack and when, they will also have the skill to repeal such an attack without injury every single time it happens.

God good, is this the quality of /tg/ posters now? I remember when they used to be respected across all boards.

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>>159208154
>If various people get the wrong idea about goblins because they fended off a few goblins outside their cave
>Form up a militia or a guard.
So who do you think was doing the fending in the first place?

>>159208215
Evil implies a choice, they're just doing what they were made to.

They're a blight, yes, but they have no control over this.

>>159208207
Who are you quoting anon.

>>159207996
Its a frontier village and some random small farms. You're assuming there were guards in this specific area to begin with and not just a tax collector that comes around occasionally.

>>159208207
> a villager will be able to fend off a goblin raid every single time without problems.

please stop, you're dragging /tg/s name through the mud now.

>>159208226
>/tg/
Admitedly /tg/ is going the way of /co/ with its TVTropes and tumblrinas, but its clearly just some butthurt anon going fishing.

>>159208154
your making assumptions, not every village gets raided, there is no reason to believe that most of them cant fend off the average goblin attack.

Goblin slayer sometimes cant find any work dealing with goblins when he talks to guild girl so its not like its an epidemic.

>>159208212
>"basically"
>"little flaws he has"

so admitting he has flaws, glad to know im right.

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>>159208064
Explain how is this harem and nope, a girl being in the party doesn't make it harem.

>>159207492
That's the problem. How is it that the local farmers & their pitchforks can't do in their home territory what a few parties of lvl 1 adventurers can do? Hunters would be able to track & scout. Footprint, animal droppings, they'd find them. Many people form a defensive group & yet we never see much. Many street gangs formed from a lack of defense against threats, sometime because of other street gangs. A low-income neighborhood can do that.

In other words, GS gets tired, needs sleep & not everyone request is a goblin problem. It's implausibly that there'd be so many goblin problems that they don't have enough newbies for. Otherwise various high rankers will be forced on goblin quests because there'd be little else. There's only so many villages too.

>>159208427
As I said
>reading comprehension
Read the whole sentence, you dunce.

>>159208404
my assumptions are informed by evidence,GSs conversation with GG, and basic logic.
yours is just an asspull.

>>159208538
>arguing semantics rather than disprove my point.

>>159208527
alright faggot, explain in detail how many farmers, what age and sexes they have, the tactics they would take and how they would balance this shit out while still doing the farming?

Cause all you have been doing now is saying that a village in the boonies, with a limited amount of able bodies, should be able to start a militia to identify and fight off an unknown enemy that attacks at seemingly random.

>>159208527
Quests are for destroying goblin camps. Farmers have better things do do, like farming. If you have the money why not pay adventurers to do it?

>>159208404
(You)

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>Goblin Slayer criticism has degenerated into fishing for replies

>>159206966
GS has maxed his gob aggro and gob taunt, that's why

>>159207501
So these goblins, who've been driven back by idiot adventurers who later get raped to death in a cave, killed the hunters. I wonder how they get any success.

No locals guarding, nobody protecting or patrolling during the time? No malnourished goblins?

No. When you cut down trees & take time to make land for homes, especially farmland, animals move. Hunters go to those common animal places & hunt. Wherever they stop, hunters have to go further to follow prey.

>>159208635
Aren't you arguing about semantics by attacking the structure of my sentence instead of my argument, that everyone with reading comprehension would have understood by reading the whole sentence before starting to argue?

>>159208822
These measures are not sufficient. Wow that was difficult.

inb4 N-no, they are sufficient

>>159207871
You're just dodging his points by this point.

>>159207835
Actually, various people did know it was bad even before the studies. Just the uncomfortable smells alone.

>>159208011
>3 people
/tg/ here, 3 able bodied people wouldn't be what they leave. 3 able bodied people couldn't manage all the farmworker even with their wives helping.

>>159208822
>animals move when their territory gets fucked.
>a sentient and cunning creature should be the same.
Even wolves resorted to night raids and became a plague when farming pushed them out in the early 1900s, why would you think that a pre industrial tech village would be able to fare better with limited manpower?

>>159208923
I'm talking the Elizabethan and Stuart period. It was an actual thing. Smoking was considered healthy, despite all the obvious signs. Just like bloodletting was.

>>159208879
>They just don't work
Fa/tg/uy here, have some reason.

>>159208841
i meant the fact that you never responded to >>159207128
>hes shown ignoring people who care about him in favor of killing gobos, literally throwing away happiness for more goblin killing.

you cant just say its not meaningful to the story, its to set up a theme thats common as the story goes on(in the LN) of GS being rehabilitated and learning to enjoy life again rather than being a punisher esqe murder machine.

and instead zeroed in on my line about goalpost

>>159208985
Well instead of saying "they wouldnt", why dont you go ahead and describe what would actually happen?

As shitty as this threads have become lately, is still better than when they were full of rapefags

>>159209061
Too many gobbos.

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>people are so upset that other people are enjoying a manga

I just dont get it

>>159209061
see
>>159207178

>>159178423
Nothing. His autism towards killing Goblins is commendable. He's a role model for autists everywhere. Also, anyone who uses the word "edgy" unironically is a retarded faggot.

>>159209067
Well, what an awesome flaw, he sacrifices himself for the good of other, it leads to him to killing more goblins, which the story is about and what makes him great, and it's not a flaw that he brought to himself by his own mistakes, stupidities etc., but which fate struck him with, something he has not stakes in. This is one of the most pure "flaws" you can think of.

>>159208152
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byford_Dolphin#Diving_bell_accident

Imagine being sucked to a 4 inch hole anon.

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Why do you guys even bother replying to this faggot? He's just saying the same things again and again, not even bothering to pretend to read your replies.

>>159209309
>for the good of other
He only recently started doing it for the "Good" of others, and he continuously states that he will go alone if needed, the rest of the party is only coming along because they have become endeared to him after he saved their lives.

And from the looks of some of the other adventurers it seems he has had dealing with lots of other people and still remained alone at the end.

There is a real possibility that at some point every single person in the party will leave him because they cant take his lifestyle.

Im sure the arc with NotGuts and Lancer will shed some light into this.

>>159209309
>that flaws not real cause i said its not

I guess think a flaws not real unless it makes the character an actual bad person.

im done with you, like i said no one in the history of 4chan has ever changed their mind.

>>159208036
History fact isn't what you've been citing. People in trouble, they form a defense. The problem is that there's not enough reason for the goblins being a capable threat in any capacity given their mating and individuals weakness.

>>159208072
And he villages can't manage their own ? You don't need a professional army.

>>159209448
Priestess will never leave him, that is clear.

>>159209506
you keep assuming they havent formed a defense.
you keep implying that said defense never works.
you keep thinking that GS is the only one that successfully gets rid of goblins.
And you keep being a retard repeating the same thing without actually explaining how shit would go down in your mind.

>>159209470
I never said that the flaw doesn't exist, I said that he isn't a flawed character.

>>159209448
Oh wow, you changed my perspective on him so much. What an asshole.

>>159209506
>The problem is that there's not enough reason for the goblins being a capable threat in any capacity given their mating and individuals weakness.
(You)

>>159208360
you're doing worse than him. villagers and word of mouth never goes around? you assume that people won't team up and protect.
>>159208234
dude. that's wrong. the characters said to do that are noob level 1s. not what he said. you guys need to reread

>>159209782
Here's your (you)
You're not even making sense at this point.

>>159209347
My dick

>>159209782
>noob level 1s
Weve been shown that the retarded ones died like retards.
Weve been shown that the capable ones clear the nest without problems.

Why do you keep applying the events that happened to the first party of the story to the rest of the parties?
Why do you keep believing that GS is the only one that can successfully clear gobbo caves?
The author already did enough mentioning that most level 1 ranked do make it back after the first gobbo mission, and they come back wiser from it.
The author has also stated that a bad dice roll will fuck with everything cause that's the gods influence.

>>159178423
GS thread devolving into annoying discussions about how much unrealistic this fantasy setting is.

>>159178900
Why would anyone care what /tg/ thinks?

My only problem with GS is: Why no dogs?
A pack of 7 200lb fantasy mutts would shred any goblins.

>>159210177
Gobbos have all the dogs

>>159210177
one gob trap can easily kill a dog, i don't think GS would like that kind of suffering

>>159207571
I don't get it.
>>159207726
It's enough of an example. Historically, even retarded conscripts knew to protect the head. It's not like helmets cost fortunes too. It's an example of some pretty stupid people.
>>159208036
Historically, people formed defenses. From bees to people, they do that. Read history.
>>159208072
Both a lack of care for villages, an unreasonable lack of local manpower, supposed no one gets taxed, etc. Weird world.
>>159208309
If they get taxed, surely the people collecting taxes cares to have people to tax?
>>159208693
Read some history or even jobs. Patrols, people watching, things GS set up when the goblin army came. It's not going to be filled with as many adventurers but some local villager can do that. We've got jobs like Shepherds for sheep.
>>159209782
Closer to my point but fix your grammar.

>>159210363
All of these have been addressed. Read the thread and here's your
(Yoouuu)

>>159210177
maybe only one guy is selling them,and he asking for too high of a price for gob killing dogs

>>159208708
Lots. Hiring private military forces in place of a local guard is something you so during war (while having the resource) & not constantly paying them. Keeping people loyal to their land has lots of benefits. This isn't some Magic MGS war economy. While historically many armies were composed of hired swords, there's a reason why not all are. In hindsight, no one hires an instructor for a local guard if that was the case? They don't want to learn how to fend threats off?

Goblin slayer is better than 90% of newer fantasy LNs/manga. Its not a isekai, there are no visible stat screens, the MC is competent, and the story is somewhat interesting. I mean it could be better but it could be a whole lot fucking worse too and I'll take what I can get at this point

>>159210342
I mean why don't the villages have dogs?
Or walls for that matter. You don't need tall ones, just some stacked rock ones about shoulder height.
That, and considering the turnover rate on adventurers you'd think the peasants would be better armed.
I'd bet the farmers are tilling up rusted swords every damn spring. Weapons would be everywhere.
I don't know. Earth humans have dealt with similar shit for millennia, fantasy peasants would have to be much tougher.

>>159210679
>during war
Have you considered reading the manga you asshurt dumbass.

>>159210777
>No walls
>No dogs
>Unarmed peasants
READ THE MANGA

>>159210670
You don't need to train dogs to kill gobs. You'd have to train 'em to do delving. But their territorial instincts would do the work for them. With barking they have a built in alarm system. Sniff sniff bark bark, alert the farmers. Gather up the young men, its hunting time.

>>159210407
By addressed, you mean failed to & historically shit. I'm left to assume that everyone who's able bodied left, no one cares for those they tax & basics shit poor people developed again bandits or gangs when there's no helpful police these guys can't do. These guys chose to live on the frontier yet barely made any defenses.

>>159210777
Gobs probably eat all the doges

Holy shit, rapefags please return!

>>159210809
The demon army which gets more glory & money fighting? Even more reason for a personal defense force both due to stories of enemies but also mercenaries prefering go to that war.

So is the demon army ignoring frontier & only heading to the capital? A lot of confidence. Going straight to the final boss.

>>159211097
I haven't seen a map, not sure if there is one. Capital might be between wherever GS town is and where the demons are attacking from

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>>159178423
We had a thread about this a couple days ago and one thing I don't like is how the story contradicts it's presentation of Goblins in this setting. We're supposed to believe that regular goblins are such a low level, and easy threat that adventurers don't care for the reward or "honor" of killing them once they rank up a bit. And that it's only been in recent times that Goblins have been a serious problem. However, when GS goes to the guild to recruit help to defend the farm the writer says this in the LN.

>A hundred goblins! Being led by a lord?
>This was no joke. Most adventurers took on goblin slaying as their first quest. Some failed and paid for their failure with their life. Others, though—be it through luck, strength, or who knew what—survived.
>Many of them were standing there at that moment. They knew in their bones the terror—or rather, frankly, the difficulty—of goblins. Who would willingly fight a host of those creatures? And with a lord present—a goblin who excelled not in strength or magic, but in leadership.
>This was no ordinary horde. It was a goblin army.
>Even an ignorant beginner would refuse to help.

Now obviously the threat of a Goblin goes up when they gain knowledge and tactics. Even a Shaman is stated to be above Porcelain level. But what's interesting is not that the assembled adventurers are hesitant just because it's a Goblin Lord leading the charge. But because a lot of them have personally experienced the true horrors of Goblins in their careers.

So why is it that in this setting none of the veterans take it upon themselves to warn their juniors? Why is it that there are only rumors about how weak Goblins are but not about how dark those caves can get when you are being chased? The goblin buff has been happening for years right? So why are the people who have lived through the horror of Goblin Hunting both condescending to GS at the beginning of the story, and unwilling to communicate the real dangers to anyone?

>>159211010
At what point did anybody apart from (you) ever say that the villagers don't have a defense force?

>>159210777
Why dont the villagers just summon a hero from another world to proctect them?
Are all people in GS world retarded, surely they should be able to summon one or 2 heroes to defeat goblins.

>>159211314
>take it upon themselves to warn their juniors?
They do, most of the juniors that get gobbed are full of themselves or only listen to the glorious dragon slaying stories.
Also the literal GODS are playing games with the mortal by throwing dice.

The God of mischief came to the God of Truth and helped him make his dungeon a literal deathtrap to low level adventurers.

>>159211314
its possible that Goblins are the lowest form of quest not cause they are the weakest but cause they are the most common, they are pest.

or perhaps goblins are dangerous but higher tier monsters are even more dangerous.

The guild girl tried to get the party from chapter one to wait for a more experienced person to join them but the fighter is overconfident.

>>159178900
>The 'bottom of the sea' bomb for example is not only something that most PnP people have done or thought of before anyway, it's also an example of magic just appearing to solve a problem without context. Prior to it showing up, we have no idea that kind of magic exists.
So every story has to have all magic that exist in the story s universe told to us???? wat?
Dafuq

>>159211564
The fact that a bunch of goblins being easily chased away by the newest of murderhubos. Many feel overconfidence facing goblins because they've fought off a few. If the average small goblin can be driven off that easily, an armed peasant could do similar.

>>159211635
>summon hero from another world
>he's obnoxious as fuck
>the isekai is about sending him the fuck back

>>159211817
.t Shounen shitter defending Fairy tail or DBS

>>159207696
Goblin slayer just wants to kill all the gobbos. The Gobbo wants to kill all humans + other creatures. Gobbo is always worse.

>>159211919
So before gandalf defeated balrog you knew he could stop the fire with magic and fight the thing???

>>159211728
>They do
Not as far as we're shown. Only the Guild Girl tries to issue any warning. It's easy to ignore the clerk, it's harder to ignore a seasoned adventurer.

>Also the literal GODS are playing games with the mortal by throwing dice.
That is another thing too. If the God's are fucking with the established rules of the world, and this has been going on for at least a few years. Why does everyone not react as such? !Amazon is still parading around in a chainmail Bikini this very chapter so I can only assume the danger of fighting higher level creatures is not changed at all. Otherwise she should be more likely to die against the Dragons, Manticores, Trolls, etc of the world. Those types of creatures are inherently more dangerous than your garden variety Goblin and yet we see all the JRPG sterotypes going up against these things dressed either impractically, or dressed without some of the more basic protections their role would demand.

So basically the "why no armor" argument all over again except this time acknowledging that the people who fight more dangerous things should be more likely to wear such gear.

>fighter is overconfident.
The swordsman is the problem here as well. Yes he was part of a Goblin repelling force before the start of the story, but he also trained under real adventurers. Going off the LN quote again, most adventurers start off with Goblin Slaying but it's not made out to be easy because we read about how traumatized they are from it. So why did his mentors not tell him that what he fought wasn't what he should expect every time? I never got the impression they taught him anything useful because he didn't even know how to change his gear for the environments.

>>159178900
Did the person who wrote this even read the LN?

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>>159211882
you seem to think every village instantly falls to any goblin raid, goblin raids clearly dont succeed that often since Guild girl sometimes has no goblin quests for GS.

>>159211994
That's retarded. We already knew Gandalf was a Maia who's shown doing lots of magic in The Hobbit & even during their journey. It was established plenty.

>>159178423
Your life.

>>159211904
I'd watch it.

no one wants to offend him cause hes the only one who can wield the legendary demon bane blade.
>everyone helping him defeat the demon lord so he GTFO.

>>159212095
It also was established that GS Had a scroll with a power magic storedd within, and magic been introduced by the sorceress and the healer, so wats the problem with him using a last resort scroll??

>>159211314
My real issue with that bit is how the size of the horde was portrayed. The adventurers (Read: everyone in the town's guild) were supposed to be rewarded 1 gold piece for each goblin they killed, so each of them would have had maybe two or three gold pieces each. However when GS came back, he was given 1 gold for the single goblin he killed, however that number was apparently staggeringly low, even though he would have barely gotten less than any of his peers. I try to rationalize it by saying that there were way more goblins than they initially believed there were, but the story itself doesn't mentioned anything about it.

>>159211314
Because a lot of them are fresh out to bat adventurers. Hell the first managa chapter is how they guild lady sends basically groups of people to be wiped by gobbos until one groups cleans up easily.

>>159210865
gobs eat dogs and train dogs too,so they will find away around that

>>159211817
>Dafuq
Good bait.

>>159212128
I can write it, I used to do so for a living. I just don't know about making an unlikeable protagonist.

Also I think this might be the plot of Ixion Saga DT

>>159212188
>I try to rationalize it by saying that there were way more goblins than they initially believed there were
I would also guess that Hob Goblins and Shamans cost more and would justify some of that as well.

But yeah, the Goblin horde size vs the amount of people that show up doesn't make the most sense.

>>159211996
>I only read the manga
Thats your problem, the gods fucking with people IS common knowledge that the Manga for some fucking reason has decided to ignore.

>>159212069
Judging by GS saying that people get overconfident from being able to drive off a couple of goblins & how these are small groups of adventurers & far from any organization, if they had decent defenses then only a very big army is any threat.

>>159212188
>so each of them would have had maybe two or three gold pieces each.
The adventurers literally came back to collect 10s of gold pieces by the end of that arc.

>>159212319
>>I only read the manga
Actually I read the first volume of the Light Novel and compared it to the Manga. Is what you're talking about made clear in the later volumes and where can I read them?

>>159212304
>I would also guess that Hob Goblins and Shamans cost more and would justify some of that as well.
But nothing indicates that they did. In fact, it was probably the opposite as the lord only netted GS one gold piece.

Baited with grimdark when its actually shitty harem.

>>159212404
That's my exact problem with it. If they had 10's of gold pieces, where everyone earned one gold piece for each goblin they killed, out a horde of 100 goblins, then some numbers had to be completely wrong. There were at least several dozen adventurers fighting the green bastards after all.

>>159212411
>I speed read and i need a grown up to point shit out for me.

This is the only time im spoonfeeding your ass, im going to cap your post and this reply for future retards that ask this dumbass question.

>Following the map, the party soon found the gallery.
The elf went in front, raised up on her tiptoes like a stalking cat. She gestured to the others how to
proceed.
Hence she was the first to see the vast hall.
Just as the map showed, the gallery ran along the edge of a huge atrium. The ceiling had to be as high
as ground level. Elves lived for thousands of years, and there could hardly have been a forest dweller as
old as this room.
Despite their age, the white stone walls still bore striking illustrations of the battles from the Age of
the Gods. The beautiful gods fought with the terrible ones, swords flashing, lightning bolts flying, until
finally they reached for the dice.

>>159212143
Besides the crap grammar, the problem was that there's too much wiggle room. That scroll could be anywhere from summons a weapon to summoning some goblin eating monster. Gandalf was explicitly a super magical guy who fought off ringwraiths at some point. They established what Gandalf was & how great a combatant he was. They didn't establish that scrolls of that kind can do that.

>>159212470
This

>>159212483
>a horde of 100 goblins,
Why are people this stupid?
GS said that at a minimum it would be 100 Goblins, not that the cap was 100 goblins, by the end of the fight its made clear that they killed much more than 100 goblins and that adventurers didnt break the 50 man mark.

>>159212283
> I just don't know about making an unlikeable protagonist.

make the story told from the point of view of one of his party members, so they shit talk him in the internal monologue constantly.

>>159212532
What do you expect from a story with 14 chapters?How many chapters should the author have waited until GS used a scroll?It s just part of building the world in wich the characters live

>>159212532
Yeah we get it, you're retarded. Even in the rabid /tg/ anti-GS thread people called you out on this.

>>159212599
"We summoned a hero from another world but he turned out to be a colossal faggot!?" Volume 1 out on December 32nd 20XX

Yen Press will release the Year One spin-off.

>>159212651
>>so they shit talk him
>They do, read the LN!
>I cant believe that GS threads are turning into Overlord threads.
Too true. Fuck these people who refuse to read, and the /tg/ crossboarders as well.

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>>159212774
LN and manga.

>>159212663
.t defender of Fairy tail second origin, Naruto eye hax & Bleach

>>159212834
>Horns
What?

>>159212188
Wait, the gobs he killed in their base doesn't count?

>>159212830
Those guys were talking about writing an isekai, not GS

>>159212683
This. We shouldn't lower ourselves and respond. We should only call them stupid.

>>159212774
>>159212834
>we spinoff now

I wonder if we'll have to wait for the manga to get farther before an anime is announced? They could always just go off the LNs.

>>159212943
its year:one, before the horns broke, though even his back up helm has broken horns so he probably broke them himself since they serve no tactical purpose.

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>>159212923
Not an argument

>>159212975
Whoops, I guess I was the one who refused to read in the end.