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Isekai was a huge mistake.

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Isekai was a huge mistake.
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>>159170252
How the fuck does this have a manga already.
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/a/ will say it's okay because "they're enjoying it ironically".
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>>159170435
Lvl 999 vilager.

Surprisingly, not an isekai.
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>overpowered NPC mob
Romsen saga was able to pull this trope off without the stupid video game systems or cringey characters.
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He earned those levels though.
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>>159170740
>>159170461
video game mechanics and UI being unnecessarily incorporated is still isekai's fault.
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>>159170838
Well i don't personally know any non-isekai examples before isekai so lets say youre right.
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>>159170252
Shame this he isn't a merchant class.
If bards can be a thing why doesn't DnD have a merchant class?
Is the light novel any good?
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>>159172962
It's pretty funny and it does an interesting thing with the opposing forces setting, demons v. humans.
Demons naturally spawn monsters, so they live far away from humans to survive. MC chilled with the demon king in the past, and the way the MC got to lvl999 is well done too. He's OP, but he's a really shitty form of OP in which his OPness allows him to matter in a fight but not because he can win outright, it's more like he can't lose.
This leads to a few interesting parts and the dynamic with the hero party who initially are portrayed as antagonists gets turned on it's head pretty well.
That's the first three volumes of translated content I read, don't know how far they went after that but I think the best part about it is that it's a refreshing take on the setting and the MC does fun things.
The bad part is how the plot stalls, author takes longer than seems necessary to set up the relationships and how the situation pans out. They are clearly amateur and the story isn't that novel but if you're into this kind of thing I think it's worth a shot.
Also, no harem antics.
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>>159170609
That's actually really clever
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>>159173961
>No harem antics
Picked up
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>>159172962
the novel put too much gag for me and the mc is also a little too over powered that turns things into a gag,it also dragged things out,with a slow pace,it over exaggerate on side character personality,they are naive or are too much generic and things just seems too random while still relates to the plot,I stop reading the novel 2 years ago because of hiatus translation
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>>159170324
even Magi's Grandson has a manga

there's no hope anymore
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Let me give the Isekai genre a shot, heres a plot and chapter 1 of an Isekai Manga I thought

Izami is a 16 year old highschool boy, He is not a loser beta MC he has a lot of friends and is pretty much a healthy guy, One of Izami's hobbies is blacksmithing since their family is known as good blacksmiths in the past but now he just does it as a hobby, Izami is also interested in Martial Arts and so He along with his sister is excited for their field trip in a village located on top of a mountain famous for having a lot of martial arts dojos aswell as martial arts books and is also famous for being top of a mysterious and spiritual mountain. After a whole day of touring the village with his sister and buying a lot of martial arts books its time for them to get home, while going down the mountain they got caught by an unexpected storm and the bus they are riding flipped up side down and her sister got thrown outside the clift but Izami managed to grab on her before she falls, Izami noticing the ground he is in cant hold any further he uses all of his strength to pull his sister up at the same time ground collapsing and him falling off the mountain, Izami Accepting death he wakes up in a clear blue sky and noticed the mountain is gone, and he is surprised he is alive, he also realized he is a different world and thinks of this as a second chance given by God so he wants to live this new life the way he wants. This pretty much the plot and what happens in chapter 1, also he got sent in a middle aged themed Isekai with his BAG full of martial arts books he bought. would you read this Isekai manga? and also this is not harem, it has girls but the girls dont throw themselves to him.
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>>159170252
Nah, its just a setting that's slowly getting overdone, people start playing with premise and get overfed on it.
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>>159178086
Again, that in the OP isn't isekai
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>>159177914
Sounds more like isekei shonen
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>>159178135
Thought that was just op being a faggot
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I want an isekai story with a yakuza being reincarnated in a generic medieval magic world and building a criminal organization there or really just an isekai story where the MC goes full Godfather.
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>>159178245
He certainly is, but failed. RPG elements aren't exclusive to isekai.
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>>159170252
>Isekai was a huge mistake.
was it? I don't know what manga that's cropped from, but it actually looks fairly funny
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>>159177914
>would you read this Isekai manga
It would depend on the reviews
If it was actually good then sure why not, but that premise is extremely generic so it would have to have a lot going for it in way of character/plot development
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>>159170415
No, I am enjoying it because I have shit taste and poor impulse control so I keep stuffing this shit like it's good even though I hate almost all of it.
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>>159170609
Romsen Saga is actually very very good and not remotely isekai at all.
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>>159172962
What a shitty system.
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>>159170252

So he's the Isekai version of Saitama?
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>>159170252
The remember the dialogue and pacing of this series is fucking atrocious.
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>>159180036
Not really. Any other class can reach his level of strength in a faction of the levels required. Though villagers can level up the easiest.
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>>159180094

I meant his persona
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>>159180123
More or less, but he acquires a purpose later on.
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>>159170252
>even more isekai/pseudo-isekai shit
>level 999 villager dude
>so epic and funny man
Will there ever be an original high fantasy esque LN that has no bullshit i.e. modern day knowledge, game overlay, REINCARNATION, etc.?
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>>159170252
That's not isekai you dunce.
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>>159180193
Goblin Slayer is high fantasy, isn't it? Just the kind of gritty underside of it.

Also have you tried Ozanari Dungeon? IT's old, but it's pure fantasy ADVENTURE and the party is awesome.
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>>159180193
Well probably not one with reincarnation, nor however will there likely be an isekai about a chemist and electrical engineer duo with actual modern day knowledge that is properly explained.
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>>159180433
Try A Hero's War.
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>>159170252
Why can't there be an isekai where MC is actually a normal villager? No hero-maou storyline, no RPG class nonsense, no sleeper cheat, just SoL about MC trying to make a living and befriending people. Something Rune Factory-esque.
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>>159180385
Yes, I have. It was a good read, but now I'm stuck looking for new stuff. Just gotta have a similar feel with an entirely new spin on it.
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>>159180193
>>159180644
>Walk into The Blue Oyster Bar
>Proclaim loudly: "Why everyone is gay and where all the women?".
Can you just kill yourself? Do everyone a favour and just do it.
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>>159180741
>Want to have a nice oyster meal
>Every oyster joint in town is stuffed with homosex

I'd be mad too.
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>>159180193
If you want true high fantasy, check western media.
If you're interested in high fantasy warped by Dragon Quest influence, check Dungeon Defence. Although there's some isekai crap, it's completely forgotten by the third volume.
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So since this seems to be the daily isekai thread, has the PV for sheieldhero gone up yet?
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>>159180779
There is like 5 Berserker threads, danmachi and Bahamut. There is no excuse for being a faggot.
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>>159180193
Well there's Sevens, but it becomes a giant like 20+ girl harem shitshow

>>159180814
>it's completely forgotten by the third volume
minus most of his plans being based in his knowledge from outside of the game

Also Dungeon Defense is the pinnacle of isekai. It includes:
>Video game mechanics
>MC has special power
>Slaves
>Loli harem
>Aphrodisiacs
>Rape
>NTR
>Hero and demon lord

What more could you ask for?
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>>15159170252
Kazuma! what does the scouter say about his power level?
>IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAND!!!!!
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Is isekai and game elements the battle harem killer that we have been waiting for?
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>>159180831
Later today i guess. It's fucking 12:30 AM here man.

Any idea what hour is the kadokawa panel today? can't find it at the main site.
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>>159180760
>>159180814
>>159180904
I'll give those a try. My thanks, anons.
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>>159180942
>90% of isekai series are battle harems
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Name one good Isekai that isn't Muv Luv Alternative
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>>159180942
No, because they don't compete, they fuse into one.
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>>159180945
I didn't really check beyond that it was the first of July, and Japan is always loads of hours ahead of me so I assumed it was up already. Can't wait to find out who's gonna voice Naofumi, also really hoping that Yuko Sasamoto will voice Firo.
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>>159181029
who did she voice?
>flonne
Oh.
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Rate me /a/.

Our MC is a religious person. To him there's only one and only one true God. One day, he was involved in an accident and was transported to somewhere bright and wide. There a being came out of nowhere and wanted him to be his prophet, his messenger in another world. MC with doubt said that he will think about it. The being angry at the response lash out at MC saying things like "You dare defy your God?". MC being religious felt angry at the comment because the being is not his God and his God was the only one true God. Than he got an idea. He accepted the proposal and transfer to the other world. But there he would not spread the word of the being that sent him here but about his God.
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>>159181613
>rate me /a/
You're an attention seeking faggot.
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>>159181613
Okay Jesus.
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>>159181613
Depends on how the story is going to progress. Like what's the other world like, will there be battles, a harem? Or is it going to be economic keikaku?
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>>159181613
>main character is actually retarded
sounds like half of what's out there already
seems good
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>>159181725
>high school students
>ever knowing how to operate or build a nuclear plant
When will the wish fulfillment end?
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>>159181696
He's going to start his own religion. Using the stories about his own religion as a guideline.
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>>159177914
I'd read it only if MC survives falling off the mountain and is then hit by a truck.
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>Boku wa Isekai de Fuyo Mahou to Shoukan Mahou wo Tenbin ni Kakeru

Anyone reading this one?

Pathetic orcs' hole best girl
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>>159181725
That sounds fucking terrible. Not only do you have a main cast of seven people which is going to split the focus up a lot (not a bad thing, just requires a way more competent writer to actually be good) they go from medieval to nuclear power instantly?
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>>159181792
>>159181818
http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/choujin-koukousei-tachi-wa-isekai-demo-yoyuu-de-ikinuku-you-desu-r20393
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>>159181797
He would NEED to have some proof and assistance from the deity he believes in (especially in the new world). Otherwise he's stupid for doing this after he gets proof that another deity exists, and that deity will be watching what he's doing.
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>>159181797
To further elaborate. The world is fantasy shit. With dragons, vampires, zombies, orcs, goblins and other shit like that. There will be battles but MC is personally not that good at fighting. He will recruit people that can fight to be on his side. Harem not sure. MC is a firm believer of sex after marriage. He can marry more than one person because I like harem endings like that. More politic than economic. He will have to fight against the kingdom and other religion. Also the being that sent him here isn't disturbing him because he is protected by his God. So the being cannot directly interfere but he can do it indirectly.
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>>159181879
Yeah he will have help from his deity. He will after the slaves first. Free them and entice them to his religion.
>>159181916
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>>159180644
read nigotta hitomi no liliane
mc is reincarnated as a baby, spends the entire series as a baby just interacting with her older siblings and magical fairy pals
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>>159181722
hey youjo senki MC is equally as retarded and she still got an anime
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>>159170252
I agree. I cannot believe I find myself missing fucking school settings. Fuck everything about isekai.
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>>159181865
Holy shit I got to the first page and had to stop. What the fuck.
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>>159182083
tanya isn't retarded, he's just autistic. get your facts right.
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>>159182134
My sides
Help

Although to be fair if he can do this I can believe the nuclear reactor thing
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>>159182134
>>159182191
>exceptionally supernaturally talented high school students
>throw them into a medieval setting for isekai shenanigans
Should of just stuck with modern times.
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>>159182296
But there are all sorts of laws and regulations that good Japanese citizens have to follow in the modern world.
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>>159170252
Where can I find the manga version?
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Where can I read this? Google yandex and iqdb aren't helpful and kissmanga and batoto don't have anything called lvl 999 villager.
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>>159181725
>>159181865
I unironically enjoy this for the economics plotline like Maoyuu Maou Yuusha
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>>159182368
>first place to look are online readers
Just google it, faggot
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>>159182368
It's on batoto, 1st entry on the main page of popular manga. Here in case you can't find it:
http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/lv999-no-murabito-r21690
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>>159180741
>hurr duur don't ask for good things
Your kind is the absolute fucking worst, you know that?
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>>159182368
Hmm...
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>>159182421
I don't want to read the novel I want to read the manga.
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>>159182436
faggot
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>>159182449
>>159182436
Thanks guys, I was looking for something with lvl not lv.

Next time I'll try 999 alone.
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>>159170415
I've only read a few isekai manga in the past couple of months. I don't see why you need to make everything ironic or non-ironic though, manga is about entertainment anyway.
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>>159182450
I am usually rather understanding when someone can't find sources from crops etc., but once you have the name, if you still can't find where to read a manga, I have absolutely no sympathy for you.
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>>159170252
What if we had a death arena isekai but with mmo character tropes?
>the healslut that is also a trap that seduces players to get easy wins
>the minmaxing asshat that plays the warrior class
>the guy that has 99 luck
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>>159182510
Well I got the name from this thread and not from reverse search and the name I was given is LVL 999 villager.

So forgive me for not thinking of trying lv
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>>159182512
That's just usual death game with sprinkles.
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>>159182533
Did you ever consider using level?
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>>159182565
I did on kissmanga but not on batoto.
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>>159182533
Even using lvl999 villager manga, I found it almost immediately on google, you have no excuses, you just want others to spare you even the tiniest amount of effort.
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>>159181003
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>>159182565
The most reasonable thing to use for search would be 999.
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Hey Shieldbro is it worth reading the LN for this?

The only LN I'm reading is Slime Datta ken and I fucking love it for the world building more than anything.
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>>159182699
Mushoku Tensei and Overlord have pretty good worldbuilding desu.

MT takes years to travel through the continent.
Overlord changes perspectives often time to the locals.
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>>159182134
>>159182191

Updates... Zzzzz.......
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>>159182699
LN for what again? lv 999 villager?
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>>159170252
>Level 999 Villager
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>>159182773
ye
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>>159170252
>Monsters drop money when killed.

Fuck me in the asshole.
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>>159182721
I'm fine with the MT manga and Overlord was boring for me. He was max lvl from the start and is in a world he already knows so it's meh.
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>>159182449
>title is literally LV999
>this is the only and main highlight of the series, the fact that the MC is a level 999 character
>emphasis on the MC via title
>he's also a regular ole villager who's LEVEL 999
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>>159182858
>MC that is lvl 999 saves demon girl from hero party as of now.

Picked Up
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>>159182816
Well it is interesting, it plays with a few tropes here and there. Your mileage may vary since like some anons said, the story can take a bit for it to get anywhere, but boy does shit happen when it does. Also the MC wants to punch god in the face, the system isn't exactly fair to villagers or to him at least.

I dropped it around that time the MC went to pick a fight with a huge ass dragon and everyone was like "pls no" around that time the translations kinda stopped for some reason.
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>>159182889
>He covers for her as well.

JUST
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>>159182932
>them faces
Okay i gotta read this shit right now.
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>>159180385
Goblin Slayer is low fantasy in tone most of the time, it just happens to have high fantasy type magic. Then again most low fantasy novels that dont have a bad or bittersweet end usually end in high fantasy levls of magic
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>>159172962
>everyone is born into classes
>everyone is aware of their classes
>Characters can see menus and etc.
Fucking hate it when this happens. I actually really like isekai, but the whole "characters know what class they are" thing is stupid. Rarely is it ever executed properly.
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>>159183123
The page before literally says the world just up and gave them classes after SUDDENLY MONSTERS
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>>159183123
It's a game.
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>>159182836
> is in a world he already knows
What in the hell are you talking about?
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>>159183181
Where? I tried looking for CH 1 on my usual manga site, but couldn't find it. I'm just saying some quick first impressions from reading some of this thread. The start to most isekai is usually the worst though, so I want to give a benefit of the doubt and read a few chapters when they come out.
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>>159183250
He's saying YGG and the new world are the same.
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>>159170252
Hmm.............
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>>159183257
What a retard...
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>>159183257
try lv999 murabito instead. Japanese names i guess.
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>>159182836
>ainz doesn't know about the other continents
>doesn't even know if those other continents has other players
Speedreader-kun stop being a god damn faggot or just admit that you dropped it since ainz isn't a black haired protagonist that swings a sword
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>>159182448
>>hurr duur don't ask for good things

>Faggot be faggot
>nobody cares
>Faggot is mad nobody cares
>Goes to parade and announce his faggotry annoying everyone
>Why you hate faggotry?!!
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>>159183286
I mean, I was discussing the manga instead of the LN. Aren't you the one that's confused here?

>>159183288
Thank you shield onii-chan
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>>159183301
That's some next level speedreading saying he already knows the world, missing the part where they literally know nothing about the world.
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>>159183301
So you didnt drop it since ainz isn't a black haired protagonist that swings a sword?
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>>159183351
And again, it's not an isekai.
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>>159172962

>Merchant class
>Has large nose

Ha.
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>>159183388
>thief
>dresses like a ninja
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>>159182932
Now it look interesting.
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>>159183351
Anon, your level of dumb shouldn't be even possible, yet here you are.
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>>159177914
>not harem
then wtf is the point
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>>159182889
>>159182932
>>159182953
>>159183446
Are you morons implying that "Demon is actually not evil and the Heros are evil murderers who won't even bother to hear the demons plea" is not a trope of it's own yet?
It's not interesting, it's derivative garbage.
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>>159183721
No, most of them definitely want to end the human race. Then there's the demon lord who never though of it until MC showed up one time on his room who bluntly said to his face "What do you think of humans?"
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god the art in this is so delicious.
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>>159170252
>see this
>read 2 chapters
I'm in. Chapter 3 when? Translated Novel where?
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>>159183913
Too soon. Though the TLs for the (not sure if web or light)novel are out there, check novel updates.
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>>159183863
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The scanlators for shieldbro released the chapter just now. Imma go to sleep and then make a new thread to dump and discuss. Have a good night everyone.
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>>159183863
>>159183949
Looks interesting, but I'm not getting any hits in google, what's the name?
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>>159184139
monster collection
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>>159184251
Thanks, lizardbro looks like an amazing character.
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>>159170415
They said the same thing about battle harems.
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>>159183863
Getting frosted rape vibes from it, that or outlaw star.
Kind of miss that style.
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>>159184335
He doesn't enjoy everything through 10 layers of irony.
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>It's isekai
Cool
>It's videogame isekai
God fucking dammit you fucking japshits
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>>159184362
>forgot my meme arrow
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>>159184365
>it's not isekai
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>>159170324
Because there's literally thousands of unemployed artists in Japan, therefore they will accept the first work they can get even if the payment is low.
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>>159182025
>Read the first few chapters
>MC has an interesting disability that challenges him
>By the 30th chapter, his blindness might as well be nonexistent because he has become the master of using magical power (temp) because he's a good multitasker

At the point where he's trying to ride the wolf and honestly it could be a little better. Maybe the LN improves some things, but it would need a good editor.
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>>159184441
He's making a damn good job at it IMO >>159182932 priceless
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>>159184350
yeah, reminds me of the good 90's stuff.

or early dirty mangos i read.
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>>159180904
>Loli Harem
Thats all i need to know anon
Picked up
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>>159181003
Saihate no Paladin.
It was hilarious when the MC had his first wet dream seeing a mummy changing clothes.
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>>159170252
>levels being a concept in fantasy
God damn it Japan.
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>>159183781
>Then there's the demon lord who never though of it until MC showed up one time on his room who bluntly said to his face "What do you think of humans?"
must read
sauce pls

Or are talking about the above if so sorry
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>>159184469
>yeah, reminds me of the good 90's stuff
>Year 1998
I wonder why...
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>>159180904
>Video game mechanics
No.
>MC has special power
NO.
>Slaves
Eh.
>Loli harem
Yes.
>Aphrodisiacs
YES.
>Rape
MY DICK YES.
>NTR
Pic related.
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>>159184543
yeah it's the above. And then there's people out there wanting to mantain the status quo of demons vs humans so there's that.
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>>159184547
People really have no brains anymore. 90s manga are easily distinguishable.
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>>159184469
>or early dirty mangos
Simpler times.
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>>159170252
whaaaaaaaat

that's craaaaaaaaaazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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>>159181003
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>>159184501
>Saihate no Paladin.
I've read this recently and while I found it pretty good, mostly it made me realize how low the bar is for isekai stories since it mainly just read like any oldschool fantasy novel that I could just pick off the shelf of my local library.
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>>159180904
>Dungeon Defense
>NTR
I don't seem to remember this at all, can you refersh my memory?
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>>159185584
MC gets raped by loli. Forced to become Barbatos fuck buddy and there is nothing his succubus waifu can do about it.
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>>159181003
Narnia
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>>159170415

I actually like isekai, I'm reading at least a dozen such manga and started reading WNs. You can hate it all you want but I'm enjoying this trend greatly.
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>>Name a MC with a harem as dangerous as Danatalion's
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>>159170252
Newfag thats from narou the ruler and the the birthplace of the current isekai trend, even if its not isekai narou titles usually share a lot common stuff and cliches.
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Best isekai over here, anime when?
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>>159186293
>>159186030
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>>159186293
What is it and why is it best?
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>>159186404
http://www.novelupdates.com/series/commushou-no-ore-ga-koushou-skill-ni-zenfurishite-tenseishita-kekka/
Do you know seikon no qwaser ?
Basically that, MC who has merchant class level up his fighting skills by drinking girls milk .
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>>159184525
Fantasy itself has become more autistic.
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>>159186478
sounds hot
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>>159186478
What does he get from paizuri?
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>>159186631
It is, and the illustrations are the strawberry on the cake.
You can find up to vol 3 illustrations in 4chan archives.
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>>159186681
He gets power from milking females.
Paizuri is milking males.
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>>159184441
Imagine having so many talented artists in the field that they're asking to draw your shitty work.
Why couldn't this just happen in the West?
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>>159186742
What about gokkun?
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>>159186862
He would have to be a fucking faggot.
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>>159186747
>Why couldn't this just happen in the West?
Those unemployed artist are desperate + have actually good art.
Western ones are middle class babied by the gov't and have shitty art style. They're too proud to draw your shitty SAO-tier stories.
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Thanks to the anon that mentioned Romsen Saga. My sides are still in orbit
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>mc is a loser, plays vidya and faps to cartoons 24/7
>gets isekai'd
>thinks this is his ticket to the good life
>has no money, has to start working
>has no real life skills or training to do any job
>too weak for physical labour
>starts sucking dick for pennies
Why isn't this a thing yet? Bonus points if Shindol draws it.
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>>159186478
Does he ever sell some milk?
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>>159187406
There is probably a few.
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>>159187406
Because isekai is a self insert for otakus, you ding-dong.
If you want a anime that you can self-insert to because you want to suck dicks, its either you're gay or you're a woman.
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>>159187450
He gives dragon milk to his harem .
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>>159186030

Ainz Ooal Gown.
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>>159187406
I had a lot of hope when Gun-ota almost had the mc become a male prositute slave at the tender age of ~10.

Why does Japan have to be so ungay?
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>>159170252
>Yuri was a huge mistake.
I agree, he attracts cancerfag
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>>159170252
What's the point of a story without a conflict?
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>>159187858
Why dont you try to ask such question in >>159149380 >>159123517 or >>159187082 ?
Or simply fuck off and take away you literal gay friends like >>159187406
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>>159170252
Thx for the series OP. The manga has good art and the LN has become cute daughteru material. Also thx for the dude who posted the 7 talented teenager stuff. It looks interesting as well, and I'm a sucker for economic showdown kinda thingy.
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>>159180094
>>159170740
Sometimes the S is capitalized, sometimes it's not. Do you just print your name every time?
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>>159170252
Shit drawing isekai that caters to the lowest common denominator
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Why do you guys even bother reading this ? 90% of it is pure shit, the remaining 10% is subpar at best. I'm sure you have better do to with your lives.
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>>159188417

I'll have you know that I do not, but thanks for looking out for me.
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>>159188417
>Why do you guys even bother reading this ? 90% of it is pure shit, the remaining 10% is subpar at best. I'm sure you have better do to with your lives.
I am enough of a purityfag to appreciate pure shit, I guess.
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>>159188417
Better time waster than watching this last season at least that's for sure.
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>>159186478
>a toddler killing orcs making a party and adventuring with a girl harem
No thanks.
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>>159188417
Why do you bother watching anime? 90% of it is pure shit, the remaining 10% is subpar at best. I'm sure you have better things do to with your life.
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>>159188417
>why do you read fun stuff, you should only read deep stuff all the time
Add a little variety to life, that's my motto.
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>>159188417
Why do you bother to post in this thread?
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>>159188417
>I'm sure you have better do to with your lives.
Like shitposting on 4chan? Good idea.
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>>159183123
How about this premise?
The world is a regular high fantasy setting and the main character is the only one who percieves it as a game. He can master stuff instantly by putting skill points in it, he can become stronger by killing things, he has extensive knowledge of the setting from reading the in-game glossary and/or online walkthroughs and if he dies, he can reload. Furthermore he has no empathy for people of the world, since from his point of view they are a bunch of scripts and polygons. The novel goes into great detail of how the natives percieve such an individual and how much of a cosmic horror he is.
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>>159188417
I want to gain confidence in my writing skills, so I read people who are beneath me.
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>>159188826
And he has a harem of masochists who want to be degraded and dehumanized?
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>>159188897
>I want to gain confidence in my writing skills, so I read people who are beneath me.
Feel free to link to your writing so we can affirm your inferiority.
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>>159188902
That seems a bit tame. maybe more like a cult of lovecraftian type worshippers that offer virgin sacrifices unto him?
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>>159188978
I have great difficulty picturing the mc and his harem as actual characters, but feel free to write us a prologue.
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>>159170252
>>159182932
>dude generic looking high school boy with an aloof personality who has the worst class but is level 999 and has a loli hanging around him all the time lmao
this couldnt get much more generic
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>>159186030
Kuro no Maou. Poor bastard has an all yandere harem.
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>>159189317

That sounds like an awful thing to have.
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>>159189081
>a prologue
>>159188826 is what I was thinking of when I read the first chapter of Death March. I didn't know what an uninspired pile of shit that WN was yet.
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>MC be Japanese salaryman
>truck-kun says hi
>gets isekai'd
>instantly becomes Gary Stu with chantless magic, swordsmanship, martial arts, enchantments, plus other things like sensing monsters, becoming invisible, summoning wormholes effortlessly
>everyone can't stop worshipping him day and night for being overpowered
the worst part about this series is that his personality being textbook vanilla as fuck; everything from his taste in girls to his generic shocked reactions is fucking bland. to add insult to injury: he starts dating the main girl who's your generic cow-titted air head.

just fucking kill me
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>>159184469
I have this somewhere but can't remember the name.
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>MC realizes they've been stuck in a superhero manga / comic book
>The superhero had defeated all the villians and life is simple and boring
>MC realizes that if the world continues like this it will be canceled, so the MC must become a villain to save the world
>MC starts with low-tier stuff, but eventually becomes more extreme to draw in sales.
>kills an innocent person by accident
>comes to the conclusion that people who are killed by the villain this world are destined to (their character was made just to die, so its their sole purpose)
>evil schemes become more and more destructive
>at the verge of destroying the world
>the people he was trying to protect team up with the super hero to defeat the MC
>series gets cancelled
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>>159188826
It's a bit better, but then this leads the Author to solving unsolvable problems with miracle menu actions.
For example, Log Horizon abuses this a little. When Rundelhous (that kid who happens to be a person of the land) is moments from dying, instead of having to cope with the death, the Author comes out and gives the MC a insanely overpowered ability that no one else can even match on a level. Suddenly, Voila, problem solved, no actual threat at all. Now, since everyone in Log Horizon plays by the same rules, ideally everyone else would be able to get some world shattering power, but really it's just the MC who gets to use it at moments when the plot asks for it. Was the power setup prior to the execution? Yes it was. Was it good? In my opinion, no.


Anyways, at this point I'm just being picky. Is there an actual work with the premise you put down? Sounds interesting enough.
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>>159180644
Not a normal villager, but Kumo desu ga, nani ka? is pretty balanced for an rpg alternate world isekai
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>Professional wrestler gets summoned to a magical world
>he opens a pet shop
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>>159188417
>I'm sure you have better do to with your lives.
Then you don't know /a/ very well.
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>>159182359
http://mangapark.me/manga/lv-999-no-murabito-novel/s1/c1
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>>159190099
That was funny. Translations for manga are too slow tough.
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I've seeing those threads lately, sure /a/ loves isekai so much like japan does.
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>>159190099
Does he wrestle magical beasts to tame and sell them as pets?
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>>159180644
Seiun wo Kakeru

updates slow as fuck tho
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>>159190444
or rather, no updates in over a year + author on hiatus
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>>159180644
>start reading interesting story with theme similar to what you're saying
>pretty good even after a few chapters in
>suddenly story turns out to be an RPG game where characters have health and mana
>in order to cast magic, characters need minimum skill levels
>"skill levels" needed to wear armor and swing swords instead of just plain hands on experience
>classes limitations
>mages can't wield swords
this is where it all goes downhill

>>159190300
It's a dirty, guilty pleasure. half the time I find an urge to neck myself over how terrible and generic most isekai start.
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>>159181725
This one was sort of cool until the "BEST LEADER's" first act was to invent fucking Mayonnaise. And his second act was to build hot springs.
God damn what a worthless fuck.
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>>159190327
no he bullies the woman who was responsible for bringing him to that world.
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>>159189991
>pretty balanced
>that disgusting gumo gets overpower as fuck, instead still being full Kuzumi Taiga
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>>159181865
>linking to batoto
fuck that website and fuck everyone that uses it
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>>159182858
Could be worse.
Could be that novel called something along the lines of "I died and went to another world but instead of 1 cheats skill, I got 100 cheat skills!"
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>>159170252
The only good isekai was isekai no seikijin.

No game elements bullshit
Real best true harem
Part of a bigger universe where harem is embedded into the universe.
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>>159186030
dead inside-fucked in the head-a republican-really gets off on murdering people
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What's the name of this Manga / LN ?
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>>159186030
Kyousuke from Blood Sign. But only because of White Queen. Aika and the others can't do shit.
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>>159184657
She was so great in a plain kinda way.
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>>159186030
>You will never fuck Barbatos and Paimon at the same time
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>>159186478
>>159186293

Bah, if we're talking milk drinking Isekai it looks much worse than Nectar of Dharani
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>>159187296
>Those unemployed artist are desperate + have actually good art.
Horseshit, the majority of artists adapting LN these days are mediocre as fuck or worse.

And they're SLOW as shit too.
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>>159187858
Conflict doesn't only come from combat. For example, despite the idiotically overpowered protagonist and his idiotically overpowered posse, Overlord is a story with a lot of conflict. It simply comes from different sources than battles.
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>>159188351
Enjoy the economic showdown while you can, because it's Mayonnaise city after that.
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Speaking of Dungeon Defense will the hero of the original game make an appearance? His motivation kind of disappeared with the 72nd ranked lord being killed, but with the demons invading they could easily trigger him into the path of revenge.
Also why is Danatalion still called the 71st ranked demon lord when multiple higher ranked demons have already died in the war?
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Konosuba is great if your sick of isekai since its a parody that goes to great lengths to avoid cliches.
like when the MC joins a guild expecting to slay monsters and ends up working for weeks to repair the city wall as his first job.
or when he is exited to have his stats revealed so everyone could see that hes the chosen one but it turns out his stats are really average.
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>>159191903
Because that's his position within the Goetia.
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>>159191903
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dantalion
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>>159189317
This is actually my favorite ongoing WN. Its quite amusing watching innocent fairies and princesses turn batshit insane slowly over the course of 600 chapters.
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>>159191903
The war happened faster than the original game so the princess prob don't have time to raise a hero
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>>159189392
His yandere harem also includes his weapons.
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>>159191903
If you read carefully the real problem never was the hero. Anybody can be appointed as hero, and get powerups by killing the demon lords, but the real threath is the mastermind leading him/her.Which is why Dantalion made sure to keep her on the spotlight, so that whatever move she makes it can be seen through more easily.
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>>159188417
Why are you even alive? 90% of the people think you are pure shit, the remaining 10% think you are a shithead at best. I'm sure death is a better option for you.
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>>159189317
>all yandere harem
ok anon, you got my attention.
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Why did they start making heroes into cucks?
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>>159192381
Seems like I was speedreading then. I thought he put the princess in the spotlight so that people will think him and the general girl were the only ones competent enough to stop her and thus avoid continued imprisonment/execution. It's been a long time since I've read it though.
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Can we all agree that Re:Monster is the worst of an already bad genre?
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The guy who draws Hinamatsuri drew a good isekai.
>Truck-kun
>Transported to another world
>Has a family
>Dies of old age
>Reincarnates
>Is a girl
>Becomes great and respected witch
>Transported back to Japan
>Powers are useless
>Is technically an illegal immigrant
>Finds out she's in the same timeframe that she left
>See's herself about to be hit by Truck-kun
>Teleports him
>[back to top]
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>>159190907
fuck off tenchifag. the harems are lame as shit
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>>159192583
Sometime they cuck others, what was that other series? the where the heroine is a sage or cleric and the hero proclaims he wants to marry her and the protag just stands there with the rest of the pedestrians and then later he runs away.
I saw it in another isekai thread in passing but didn't take notice of it.
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>>159189317
He must be cursed or something. Any woman that spends more than a few days with him turns into a complete yandere.
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>>159192885
>Transported back to Japan
>Powers are useless
Lame as fuck meme tier.
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>>159192885
How did she teleport him?
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>>159189317
Looks like Lily is about to step it up next chapter, too. She's finally made the leap from trying to confine him to outright murder him with life drain.
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>>159180193
I think Rain was a novel first. Lodoss war has novels too.
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>le generic black haired japanese young adult male with no distinctive features but actually has extraordinary powers and saves the world

These otaku just can't accept they are human garbage, can they?
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>A young man is hit by a truck and wakes up in a fantasy world where he was fated to become the demon king who would strike down the chosen hero.
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>>159189658
At least he's dating and not completely repulsed by the idea of romance.

But I bet he'll never fuck
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>>159193332
Her powers are useless in modern life, not nonexistent.
>>159193174
Give even 2 examples.
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>>159192583
>image
How was he a cuck? Looks like the opposite.
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>>159193655
The hero is the guy standing behind her (her fiance)
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>>159193649
>Give even 2 examples.
examples of what?
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>>159193655
Hero≠pro-tag in this case.
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>>159190300
It's a bad, abusive romance.
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>>159193018
>what was that other series? the where the heroine is a sage or cleric and the hero proclaims he wants to marry her and the protag just stands there with the rest of the pedestrians and then later he runs away.
Isn't that Sonomono ? Not 100% sure as I hate coward MCs.
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>>159193579
When did nips stop seeing themselves like pic related?
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>>159193723
>>159193757
Oh I see. Right, yeah cause the protag was a villager class or something.
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>The antagonist is some kind of demon/devil king/lord

DROPPED
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>>159193655
The hero's party member is offering herself to a over leveled village.
He declines though and would rather walk home with a demon loli.
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>>159193736
>Meme
>an element of a culture or system of behavior that may be considered to be passed from one individual to another by nongenetic means, especially imitation.

Two examples of the "meme" you mentioned being used in other isekai.
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Would Dragon Ball be isekai if written today? Would Goku be hit by a saiyan truck on planet Vegeta?
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>>159192177
Weapon Waifus need to be a thing more often.
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>>159194026
>The villain is a mythology god
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>>159191684
That's written by the same guy who wrote qwaser, isn't it?
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>>159194237
DB is reverse isekai, since Goku came to Earth.
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>>159194237
Reverse isekai.
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>>159194032
>He declines
BASED
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>>159193579
>>159193912

Who knows, but it's tragic.
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>>159192638
No, it's fine for what it tries to be.
Only anti rape fags hate it.
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>>159189658
>instantly
>trained all his new life since birth under guidance of the 3 most OP people in the country
>used his modern knowledge about physics and chemistry to enhance magic and take a few steeps further
>not spilling spaghetti and actually confessed (albeit thanks the the friends guidance) to the girl he liked, and it's not even the of the story
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>>159193823
>Isn't that Sonomono ? Not 100% sure as I hate coward MCs.
You know, I don't hate Sonomono because it's obvious from chapter 1 that it was a misunderstanding, and I kind of love that the guy basically spent a year of self-made suffering because he's an idiot.
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>>159194032
demon loli > some shitty hyuman sage

I'm glad the lv999 villager-san was smart enough to realize that. I'll be honest though, the demon loli also proposing to him was stupid.
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>>159189317
i got so pissed off with this novel,seeing pure girls turn bat shit crazy for no reason other than the author having a boner for yanderes ruined this novel for me i hope the mc finds out what they are doing at some point and fucking kills them
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>>159194237
There's already a Dragon Ball Isekai.
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>>159194052
Are you seriously asking for the most generic trope ending where mc returns to his world as if nothing happened/it was all just a dream, get some nonsensical aesop and continue to live his boring shitty life, which he somehow thinks is not? With optional memento, pet or waifu?
Are you retarded or just that new?
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Best isekia commin' through

>MC has no special powers.
>world is unique and interesting rather than generic fantasy.
>many cliches are subverted.
>no fucking video game logic
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>>159194606
Not really. I'm super into rape porn and even I find the author's fedora-tipping and complete lack of self-awareness obnoxious.
The lengths they go to pretend that the rape isn't actually rape is frankly pathetic .
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>>159194596
What's the third reference here. I see Touma and the SAO guy but i don't recognise the guy in the other panel.
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>>159194606
Green skin(korean wn ) is better.
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>>159190907
it always bothered me how everyone was all over his dick after he just tried to kill the princess
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>>159194803
That's not what happened here. And that's not what you said was a meme. Go reread your posts or just read the damn manga. It's a oneshot from a very original author and is very good.
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>>159194606
Its not the rape, its the fact that the MC never meets any kind of resistance in any thing, the world just bends over backwards to accommodate him, he wins every conflict effortlessly and never suffers any kind of loss.
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>>159194369
I believe so, and it's very good so far.

>MC is a nobody, but the skills he has make sense.
>He has no special powers
>His value in battle comes mainly from the time-limited berserker curse he gets by sucking the main girl's tits.
>He is naive and whiny at first, but it quickly bites him in the ass. He mans up and faces the consequences head on.

Oh and

>It takes place in a fantasy world with tolkien-esque fantasy races, except it's in an industrial revolution level of civilization.
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>>159194894
Probably just your typical battle harem MC. Remember the page is lambasting LNs in general not just isekai. So it could be a lot of things.

And even though that looks like Kirito he at least bangs his waifu.
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>>159193579
>get him white hair
>EDGY
>get him brown hair
>ugly!
>make him ginger
>EMIYA
>make him multicoloured
>faggot! Trying too hard!
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>>159194606
It's not the rape, it's the fact that the MC and the author don't have the balls to call it rape.

And the MC is so overpowered it's incredibly boring, chapters read like a shopping list of new skills.
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>>159195079
And i said tier. Same level of shit.
>I have magic, but it is somehow useless in modern world
Seriously.
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>>159194780
>Yamcha isekai
didn't that idiot forget to murder Dr.gero before he could do anything?
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>>159195315
They're not that far yet, they just beat vegeta I think.

That said, I wish it wasn't isekai, they could have written more or less the same plot around yamcha finding Pilaf's Dragon Ball Manga collection.
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>>159195315
>killing dr. Gero before he makes Krillin s waifu
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>>159195485
>They're not that far yet, they just beat vegeta I think.
The correct course of action is to hunt down and slaughter Gero right after Goku destroys the RR army. They could ask 8-man about him.
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>>159195677
>implying
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>>159194700
>the demon loli also proposing to him was stupid
Hypergamy even applies to levels, the highest legendary hero was only 253.
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>>159195832
Didnt she marry indian guy?
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>>159195201
yeah, they fucked up by having them find legendary equipment so early, and right underneath their home to boot.
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>>159196098
They fucked up by combining all that shit they gave him. Any of the shit he has would be good on it's own.

>MC is a weak goblin but he has the knowledge of an experienced mercenary!
Good
>Goblins can rank up into stronger monsters
... cool, but kinda wasting the original point.
>He's a super special blessed by the dark god goblin variant that has super tier magic spells
Why
>He can absorb the skills of things he eats
Can be ok when handled properly, but ReMonster just heaps moves on him.
>Legendary Hoard of incredible magical items
Man fuck you remonster
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>>159195201
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>>159196313
Isekai where the MC is a weak creature and stays a weak creature and takes over the world by out-keikaku his foes who assume he is less capable or intelligent than he actually is?
And then keikaku on top of keikaku with villians realizing he is smarter than he seems but the MC also knows the villian is aware but the villian is aware MC is aware and so on?
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reminds me of those crazies in Ragnarok online that would get level cap with novice class. might pick it up for nostalgia.
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>>159195201
>>159196396
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>>159196479
Dantalian from Dungeon Defense .
And the MC from your an my asylum.
Korean shit.
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>>159196396
Nothing wrong with that. Stockholm syndrome is a thing, and IRL they need only one week to fully convert.
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>>159196533
Reminds me of how in fire emblem if you maxed out villagers you could rank up thrice, totaling around 60 levels of stat gains, making them OP as shit.
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>>159194815
I hate this one for everyone being raped in some form. And fuck the ending.
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>>159196657
Again it's part of the "author won't acknowledge" that it's Stockholm syndrome thing.
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>>159194275
Futa is bad and you should feel bad.
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>>159196561
Top dog having harem while forbid others from having one? No way!
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>>159196618
>dungeon defense
Stop recommending people that.
Getting real tired of your shit, DD shills.
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>>159196741
And how do you imagine it should happen to keep you happy?
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>>159186747
We westerners are too entitled. You should hear about the VA "strike" that's currently going on in America.
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>>159196843
nobody gives a shit what you think. good stories will get recommended
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>>159196915
The author should finish the 8th grade maybe?
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>>159196396
>>159195201
>>159194606

>MC gives the hero party a lecture about how they shouldn't be invading other people's homes
>The only reason he's there at all is because his troop invaded the Orc mine and killed them.

I still don't know if it's intentional hypocrisy or if the author doesn't smell his own shit.
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>>159196991
>dunno lol
I didn't expect anything but still was disappointed.
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>>159194275
source? my googe-fu fails me.
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>>159196991
>cant even make a logical argument about remonster's author
Just admit it hurts your feefees. Stop trying to virtue signal on /a/ of all places.
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>>159197122
>>159197081
There's no physical solution to making the author self-aware. What the fuck did you expect me to write? I have no problem with the content, just the presentation. Is it too hard for you to think critically, even a little bit?
I jack off to hardcore jogger rape JAV (MAD), so don't think I'm offended or virtuous.
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>>159197011
It's almost like he's american/european or something.
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Let's see how interesting my 5 minute isekai idea is.

MC wakes up in a generic medieval fantasy world, there aren't any RPG or game mechanics. MC is just your normal everyday college student, down on his luck and poor. The last thing he remembers is going to bed the night previous, and that's it. As he wanders around he comes across a caravan, however he does not speak their language(the world's languages are different, story will have him learn over the first few chapters). Caravan people are nice however and allow him to come along with them, he is very grateful. Eventually after a few days, the caravan is attacked by undead, zombies and skeletons only. While they're trying to defend, MC realizes something.

The undead can't see him. More likely, they don't register he's even there. Whereas they're trying to bite or kill the other people, they merely walk on by him, sometimes even bumping into him. Using this mundane power, he takes up arms and beats them down. The people celebrate him as a fine hero, or at least from what he can understand. Story will revolve around MC trying to learn about the world he was born into, meanwhile trying to use his gift to help those in need. Personality wise, he'd most likely be similar to a less dense Subaru. Politics will play into the theme later on when the powers that be try to use him for their own ends.
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>>159173961
>Also, no harem antics.
Source pls. Google is a dumbass (and so am I).
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I dont really care about the rape in Re:Monster, hes a monster not subject to human morality, the problem is how retardedly over powered he is.
how do you have any decent conflict when the MC can solo a party of legendary tier adventures with out breaking a sweat.

the only time he ever experienced any kind of loss was when the bear god riped off one of his hands(still won tho)but guess what he gets a super speshul magic gauntlet thats better than his original hand in every way the very next chapter.
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Wortenia Senki is pretty good
Dungeon Seeker has it's moments, but tries hard to be edgy
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>>159197455
I hate the obnoxious narration that reads like fedora tipping incarnate.
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>>159197647
Isn't it more the fault of the "translators"? I know of the time that translation effort was lead by literal who`s on google docs, of all things; and everything they translated was fedora tipping garbage.
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>>159197455
>overpowered
>conflict
It seems you forgot "tension"

Fucking swarm of retards.
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>>159197104
>source
[Yuugengaisha Mach Spin (Various)] Kotoni-san wo ** Shitai!
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>>159197798
there is no tension either though.
its fine to have shit taste, just dont act like Re:monster is anything but but a shitty power fantasy.
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>>159197427
don't
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>>159197356
Something something he's already dead inside.
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for those who still care some of the best isekai out there right now are RtW and falling in love with the villainess
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>>159197011
>Orc
>people
Anon, Orcs don't respect other peoples property rights., It's only fair to do the same to them.
then again, I don't know why this gob is so sanctimonious.

>>159196915
>>159197455
Not that guy, but I sort of see were he's coming from. The universe seems to be bending over back wards so that no matter what he does it's always cast in a positive light, or at least neutral. So not only does everything work out mechanically but also so that not matter what he does he's always in the right.
If you gonna do villainous acts roll with it. either be edge or tongue and cheek like Rance or Miel isekai
https://vndb.org/v20967
https://vndb.org/v16900
https://vndb.org/v21355
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>>159198004
Spending another minute thinking about it, I came up with the idea that his power isn't anything like that all. It is related to the fact he's from a different world, basically his soul doesn't fit with this world's idea of what a soul is. I.E. people from this world can cast magic, but MC can't. In short, scrying and magical effects like suggestion or illusions don't work on MC because they simply can't effect his soul since it is alien to the very concept of magic. Undead can't see him because to them he doesn't even exist or show up on their radar. Magic that summon boulders or fire still effect him though, since they cause external effects rather than internal ones.
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>>159198108
>then again, I don't know why this gob is so sanctimonious.
That is the big problem with his personality. Not that he invaded and killed the orcs, but lecturing others on doing exactly that.

Why does he pretend he is an amoral badass if he makes up excuses for all the nasty shit he does?
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>>159195088
Yeah, this one is looking really promising. You could take the tit-sucking out and it would still be a good story. And it's definitely nice to see a setting besides the usual medieval type.
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>>159198108
Does it WN actually have author narration or something similar?
Because manga doesn't make it clear, and can just attribute everything to Gob being self unaware idiot, who actually got killed because of it, and then other world being shit.

And as people say it read like a diary of Gob, so i assume it shows Gob opinion on things.
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>>159193605
I would honestly prefer him not date anyone until he fixes his shit tastes and boring-as-fuck personality.

>But I bet he'll never fuck
this can actually still be really good if she gets killed in the upcoming war. MC can turn into an edgelord and worst girl fucks off forever: two birds; one stone.
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>>159192638
Easily so.
>>159196657
And now you explain me, how no captives attemped a suicide. That noble human female in particular.
>>159196915
RE Monster would be ok with all the edge if only there was some kind of plot, an interesting adventure with real challenges. Instead we have a rapefest and steamrollong of enemies.
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>>159198050
RtW?
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>>159197606
Surprised it took this long for some one to mention Dungeon seeker. it may be juvenile but. PPK or shitting on shitters is really enjoyable.
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>>159198634
What if Princess Mei seduces MC and his wife breaks into a devil?
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>>159192638
I can't, because as much as I think it's grabage, there IS worse garbage out there.
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>>159197954
Already found it, cause I should have read the thread first before replying. But is it so bad that you advice against reading it?
>>159198913
>rimjobing a guy to death
That was so edgy that I even started reading it.
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>>159198913
Cant like because mc is re:zero tier dumb and doesn't learn from his mistakes. While author also using usual blueballing nonsense tricks like shield hero.(lvl 3000 guild bitch)
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>>159198923
there is always something worse.
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So is this still the bottom of the barrel or did we somehow go deeper?
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>>159198919
May can't seduce anyone in this series and she's still better than the main girl.

The demon transformation in humans don't happen randomly, but it would be pretty awesome having the main girl transform and Shin having to kill her. Who knows, maybe we'd see some character development or something.
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>>159198903
Release that witch. It's better than it sounds.
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>>159198108
>https://vndb.org/v21355
>Isekai harem VN
noice
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>>159199581
No offense but RtW becomes pure shite after ~ch630 or so. Roland becomes just as OP as every other isekai MC.

Right now the english translation is in the middle of the good part, but after the church is defeated it goes to shit quick. It was like the author ran out of good ideas or tried to incorporate another story into RtW.

Such a shame too, as it had such a good premise and was executed fairly well for quite a long time.
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>>159199486
It's always been close to bottom but never truly there.
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>>159199782
>No offense but RtW becomes pure shite after ~ch630 or so. Roland becomes just as OP as every other isekai MC.
Zero is the reason, right?
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>>159199937
Zero is just the beginning. But yes, she's the catalyst for nearly ALL the bullshit.
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>>159199677
Doesn't stop there there are straight up porn novels, if meager web novel smut isn't doing it for you
https://exhentai.org/g/1045258/4dc4a83e9c/
https://exhentai.org/g/937713/cf13ab9498/
https://exhentai.org/g/937714/e57dfa8710/
Not quite sure if https://exhentai.org/g/936144/0e0d166489/ is.

Choose two party members.
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>>159199992
Yeah I estimated as much. There would be no reason otherwise to introduce such convenient abilities in an unlikable character.
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>>159200131
>shiwasu no okina is the ilustrator
moving up in the world huh
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>>159199992
Let me break it down for people who want to know: RTW spoilers you been warned!
>MC and Zero duel
>MC beats Zero
>MC acquires Zero's power, but then
>it becomes a brand new power!
>this power allows MC to pull off some truly bullshit things, like MC creates a dreamworld/pocket dimension, taqila witches
>this was the moment when RtW jumped the shark


I kept it pretty vague though.
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>>159170252
Sauce?
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>>159200279
oh i also forgot these

>MC becomes the first wizard after beating zero
>MC may or may not be the chosen one (but probably is)
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>>159200279
Speaking of Pocket dimensions, I'm enjoying Moon-led Journey a lot.
I don't like the MC and apparently he's secretly a Psycopath, which could be good or bad, but his companions really carry the story well, and I love his idea to make a mirage town in order to sell the resources of his pocket dimension.
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>>159200139
Yeah the moment Zero brought up the 'winner takes all' thing I KNEW Roland was eventually going to fight and beat her.
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>>159200279
>>159200338

Well, it's fairly obvious that this will happen as soon as zero was introduced. I just hoped that he doesn't become too OP because of that.
I will probably still like the moment it happens. I'm a sucker for wish fulfillment.
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>>159200205
Considering how many tanks he's released, doing a one off Isekai porn novel is just a drop in the bucket.
The guy's only been contracted to do the illustrations for a single porn game, and that was 17 years ago.
What gives? Do you think he's been turning down offers?
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>>159200433
>>159200338
>>159200279
>>159199992
>>159199937
Who is zero?
I'm assuming it's that body snatching witch? Because as soon as she was introduced and that contrived "oh it's actually a mental fight with imagination and you only lose when you give up" I immediately thought that MC was going to fight her, obviously win, but he gets to keep the bodysnatching magic thus becoming a male magic user.

But you are saying it gets *worse* than that?
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>>159200443
It really is strange now that you mention it. They are highly skilled illustrators with a charming style and great range.
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>>159200362
Yeah but the author has written himself into a corner and barely managed to release one chapter after a year. It doesn't take a genius to figure out why, considering what happens currently in the translated chapters.
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>>159200433
Those spoilers were just the start though. After the zero duel, RtW starts to become more like a regular CN webnovel, and not in a good way.
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>>159199782
god damn it. rtw was the last isekai I was still enjoying
guess it's back to normie books.
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>>159170252
>blaming isekai for powerlevels
better go back to watching dragonball z
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>>159200544
>But you are saying it gets *worse* than that?
That is exactly what I am saying.

I found RtW most charming before Roland becomes mega OP. Once the church is defeated it starts to stray into like, another story or something. As if the author wanted to write another story but decided to cram it into RtW.

But hey, at least Roland bangs his waifu Anna. There's always that to look forward to.
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>>159200544
>I'm assuming it's that body snatching witch?
That is indeed Zero. She's one of the "purified" church witches.

And Roland doesn't just "take over" her power, when Zero's power becomes Roland it becomes a brand new power that is ridiculous. Oh, and Zero doesn't actually die either.
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>>159200733
>Spoiler
That's awful. Does he reject nightingale? No harem end? If so, Roland is a cunt.
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>>159200863
Isn't she already expecting to be cucked?
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>>159200863
There's been a few hints Nightingale might get love in the future, but as of the latest CN chapters only Anna gets tender loving.
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>>159200927
But there is no reason NOT to love her.
Anna is pretty bland and boring and it seems like she only wins because first/main girl status

Now that I think about it does Anna even have a personality?
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>>159200941
Does he even have a choice? Nightingale would probably handle getting reject like a champ, but anna? She would burn down the whole town, including the mountains.
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>>159200733
that's not really a spoiler, though it is absurd it took so long.
isn't MC supposed to be an adult and not some virgin teenager?
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>>159201041
Anna is the one that gave Nightingale hope for the future. Or at least that is what is implied.
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>>159201152
Anna is a closet yandere in my mind. I firmly believe that she only says this to trample down on a heartbroken nightingale harder. Seriously, that woman is just too obsessed with roland and would literally forget to breath if it wasn't a requirement to stalk him.
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>>159200362
the writing is competent but the protagonist is infuriating. He's written as a brat and I'm pretty sure the author knows it. Hoping the ending is some kind of tragedy where he over reaches with his power and fucks himself over.
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>>159201017
>Now that I think about it does Anna even have a personality?
none of the characters have much personality. I don't even mind, I just like reading about someone playing Civ in some fantasy world.
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>>159201389
It is funny because even the chinks like Nightingale more than Anna.
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>>159201542
>reading about someone playing Civ in some fantasy world.
That's precisely why I liked RtW. And then it pulls a 180 shift in nature. Civ-style kingdom building is almost entirely ignored once the church is gone.
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>>159186478
Breast-feeding NTR.
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>>159190617
Maybe the bar for being the best leader was pretty low
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>>159199506

Oh wow I forgot this existed

Is it still hot garbage or is MC no longer the only useful person in the setting?
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>>159182822
How much gold and EXP will I get for defeating you?
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>>159170252
hey shitposter, Why dont you post this about the CGDCT or Yuri shows?
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>>159177914
>He didn't bang his sister
>No truck-kun

Literally garbage
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>>159203029
I've set my standards lower than they've ever been and it barely qualifies as "fun garbage".
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>>159182822
>Monsters drop money when killed
>Inflation makes currency drops increasingly worthless just like in every MMO ever
Economic isekai when?
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>>159203296
>eventually so much currency exists humans/monsters evolve to be able to eat it
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>>159193018
Sonomono nochi ni

Wazu is an autistic spaz, with a glass heart and the sould of a maiden.
He is best waifu stuck in a shitty fantasy harem.

The little sister is a reborn heroine, she and the goddess are best girls, that actually brought character development back on track for the rest of the harem.
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>>159182822
You don't bleed money?
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>>159194815
>Best Isekai
That title has already been taken.
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>werewolf girl thinks lewd thoughts about you

>realizes you're thinking the exact same lewd thoughts

If your Isekai doesn't have socially-awkward werewolf girls then it's trash
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>>159203893

Is this the doujin or the series based off the doujin?
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is there any isekai where the focus is economics? having a college degree is probably pretty close to a super power in a standard isekai setting.
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>>159195088

>MC acquires powers by sucking on princess's boobs

This is by the guy who did Qwaser isn't it
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>>159204094
yep
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>>159203893
I have also read that porn doujin. God bless the nukes.
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>>159204094
>>159204172
>>159195088

You know it's kind of impressive to make every series you do revolve exclusively around your very specific fetish
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>hating on my ogre nigga

Disgusting, go back to your softcore teenage edgefests like shield hero and MT.
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>>159203895
Sadly, crabman fell for the Harem Isekai NTR meme, that wolf girl is probably one of the only girls that hasnt been dicked by the MCs brother, and only because she never met him.
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>>159204436

>that wolf girl is probably one of the only girls that hasnt been dicked by the MCs brother, and only because she never met him.

So what you're telling me is that she is BEST GIRL by default then?
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>>159204310
It's even more impressive to make knife ears look this good.
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>>159204812
10/10 elf
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>>159204812
>fat knife ear tats

sweet jesuss
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One of the best isekai is a hentai manga.
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Trailer of Tate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjezREyZI2U
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>>159205841
>English
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>>159205841
Holy shit. Hope it will not be as dull as manga.
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>>159198848
>And now you explain me, how no captives attemped a suicide. That noble human female in particular.
They not from Japan.
>RE Monster would be ok with all the edge if only there was some kind of plot, an interesting adventure with real challenges. Instead we have a rapefest and steamrollong of enemies.
That's another mater entirely. ReMonster is shit bit for different reasons than muh rape muh hypocrisy and other muh feefee things.
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>>159206116
>feefee
What the fuck does this mean? Did baby talk suddenly become popular memespeak? Is it supposed to be cute?
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>>159206056
It's actually quite possible to take shit source material and make it good, just like you can take good source material and make it shit.

But in this case I'm guessing they will take shit source material and make it even more shit.
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How about this: We start with an MC getting summoned into fantasy world. He's tasked with killing the demon lord. He starts plotting how to build "technology" to make it easier. The twist is that he's not from standard Japan, he's from a high science-fiction setting. A soldier, with cybernetic enhancements.
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>>159206176
With a good artist anything can be good.

Look at slime vs gunota.
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>>159177914
typical CN Xianxia plot
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>>159178448
this but in fantasy not-Rome
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>>159206116
>They not from Japan.
Japan is not the only country where people commited suicide in favor of being dishonored you know.
>>159206176
I will not wait for it to be good not to get disapointed, but I hope that it will be as good as the source.
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>>159206207
Data from Startrek gets Isekaid into Fantasy world.
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>>159206207
I started to write something similar.
MC was from far future ( think Blame! level of tech ), thrust into generic Isekai. Regulations prevent MC from going evil overlord just in case he can connect back to home base.
MC explores the world noting the resources that could be extracted and of course he discovers the existence of magic. MC realizes that the magic is interfering with short distance communication ( short relatively speaking, he is used to intergalactic scales ). Since magic makes communication difficult, he assumes he is permanently separated from home base. At this point he decides "fuck it" and combines magic and technology to take over the isekai world and eventually the universe with robot drones. Demons and humans must combine forces to beat him with magic, because that's the only thing they have that can compete with the science fiction level technology the MC has.
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>>159181725
picked u-
>>159190617
dropped
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>>159206401
>in favor of being dishonored you know
And it wouldn't even be dishonor in some cases. Fear, captivity, depression, all could lead to them trying to kill themselves.
I'm suprised those bitches don't have friends or families either.
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>>159181725
That one was okay. None of them were everymen. They basically seemed like the protagonists of some other LNs of unrelated genres.
>>159190617
Re:zero nigger did that too.
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>>159206401
>Japan is not the only country where people commited suicide in favor of being dishonored you know.
You know, for every person who actually committed suicide after shamefur dispray there's hundreds and thousands who continued to live, accepted it or even embraced it.
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>lvl 999
>highest hero was lvl 253
I´m taking a guess.
The demon lord is already dead. Villager-kun wanted to help him somehow or the demon lord ask him to kill him because he was suffering or something like that. Probably also the reason why he is protecting the demon loli. Demon lord has a daughter who ran away and he told him to protect her when he sees her.
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>>159206813
Not even close.
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>>159206813
The level thing is kinda stupid.
Basically every human can get up to around the power of a level 500 monster. For a villager that happens after level 900, so it just takes longer to reach the limit.

The stupid thing is that every class gets a special ability every 100 levels, and one at level 999. So while 250-300 might the softcap for the level of a hero because there aren't any stronger monsters, a villager will have the same strength at 999 plus 8 extra special abilities.
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>>159206588
Yes, you got the point. Even dishonor of loosing the battle and being captured, not even raped or tortured - just captured. I could get it if he was in war with lusty succubus, but when "blah blah noble elves" and a few chapters later those noble elves ask for dogs to fuck - that's just stupid.
>>159206695
IRL people captured people. Here elves, who think they are like the top of the world, are captured by fucking gobbos, who are something like vermin. If IRL captives were to be raped by gobbos - many things would change. Plus IRL females were a bit more free in comparation to slaves (so no big deal, captured or not), and captured male warriors would not be turned into harem bitches, more likely executed, traded or something similar. So it is much more likely for a fantasy world with gender equality and species that are considered vermin for females to commit suicide not to become a breeding body for said vermin.
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>>159205805
Agreed, this one makes me laugh so hard.
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>>159206699
>Nirvana will never be translate in your lifetime
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>>159207063
What are you talking about. It's licensed.
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>>159170252
Game mechanics are the problem in most of these works, not the isekai.
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>>159207109
Not in my country.
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>>159206440
I like power trips and when natives stunned by technological level. You may continue.
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>>159207124
If you want realism, just step outside.
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>>159206939
>a villager will have the same strength at 999 plus 8 extra special abilities.
For the MC they're lame "finger" skills that increase thae damage he does with any actions he does with his finger, like flicking a booger. And they stack.
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>>159207124
naaa. lack of any story beyond the first 10-15 chapters is the problem. There's like no build up. They gain instant god mode and dont know wtf to do next
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>>159203893
Amahara is a miracle of our universe and his noticeably immature art is charming and erotic.
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>>159189220
picked up thx
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>>159204311
If the strong makes the law why does he keep making excuses to justify his actions?

Oh wait, I know, neither the MC nor the author have the balls to properly embrace their neutrality.
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>>159207209
Then you'll just have to wait for the piratefags.
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>>159206998
>and a few chapters later those noble elves ask for dogs to fuck - that's just stupid.
It's like they're... elves!

>commit suicide not to become a breeding body for said vermin
There's a difference between low level vermin and a group which levels on weekly basis into high-tier monsters and don't act like retarded mobs. That's like difference between bandits for example and soldiers on a mission.
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finally caught up with Warlock in Magus World and I got to say Leylin is probably more morally bankrupt than Rou (at least the series acknowledge he's an evil bastard)

>chemical warfare
>enslavement of entire races
>backstabbing
>manipulation
>bringing about a zombie apocalypse
>eating a god

half the times I find myself dreading his victories because you just feel that his friends are going to get fucked in some way (though thankfully lot of times they don't)
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>>159203893
I honestly don't like Rebis' art but this is great.
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>>159207684
Do you really think that racism can be beaten that easy with logic? Filthy species are still filthy, regardless of their power. For some reason no fantasy humans or elves want to fuck with demons and monsters who are way more powerful.
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>>159207817
I'm the inverse, like Rebis but I don't think he got the point of that world
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>>159207779
The problem people have with Rou isn't that he's morally bankrupt, it's that he pretends he isn't while being sanctimonious at the same time. It just makes him half-assed pathetic and hypocritical.

Of course, that isn't remotely the only flaw that series has, it's just the one that leads to most arguments because retards like to pretend the problem people have is he does bad things.
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>>159207857
>women
>logic
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>>159204812
>dark haired elf
Ok, that's cool
>big fat tats
Ugh. What's wrong with tasteful breast sizes? Elves should be graceful and lithe not tittie monsters.
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I can't remember the title of one of these comics. It's about a doujin artist who goes to a fantasy world. I think it was called maiden something
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>>159207935
They even have male elf bitches, so it is not a really relevant post that you made.
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>>159183046
High fantasy vs low fantasy isn't a matter of tone or scale of magic, man. Low fantasy is fantastic elements layered onto what is ostensibly the real world, high fantasy is a completely original world governed by fantasy elements. Lord of the Rings is high fantasy, Dracula is low fantasy.
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>>159208149
>They even have male elf bitches
Elves. Not even once.
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>>159207857
> For some reason no fantasy humans or elves want to fuck with demons and monsters who are way more powerful.
Thats a fact?
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>>159208216
Oh cmon, can we stop with that "elves are whores" meme?
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>>159208253
NO idea but I want that dragon girl to step on my dick and the artis nice.
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>>159205805
God I loved that dark elf one. Truly the best hentai produced, and we get to live through it.
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>>159208255
>some hentai with a human that has board mentality after long journey
Well, those can fuck trees and dogs, that is not even something new. Males are more likely to fuck something that looks fuckable. Yet for a female hero fucking a monster would turn either an internal trauma or pregnancy, both heavily damaging her way of life.
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>>159208255
And I have to add: your "monster" looks like a cute girl in a cosplay costume, so not really something monstrous.
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I don't think I've been invested in any Isekai story after Mushoku Tensei ended, to be honest.

And even MT was getting a bit too much by the end, but it was a good enough ending.

Didn't even bother for that afterstory/spin-off bullshit the guy wrote after about Rudi's kids. Heard it was cancer so I stayed away so that shit wouldn't ruin MT in my heart.
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>>159208264
>elves are always some noble beings that would rather die than allow to touch them by non-elves
>they certainly can't be what author want them to be and author can't be influenced by memes or even making them himself
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>>159208489
I guess ill stop reading after Vol 25 then, thanks for the advice, I just got to the Zanoba goes back to his Kingdom arc, I still love all the characters, and those that I initially hated have grown on me.
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>>159208255
Were her legs cut of or something?
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>>159208489
I liked the North emperor story but otherwise yeah skip it.
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Let's be honest here:

If Isekai doesn't have the MC coming back to his previous world as a goal it's most likely a shitty wish fulfillment.

If it has video game mechanics it's pure shit.

If it's harem then it's harem (shit)
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>>159208581

Yeah, just finish the main series and don't stick around for the extra bullshit.
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>>159208576
You can pick only one: either racist and xenophobic nobles who would rather die than damage their honor, or sex-obsessed whores who jjust wat the dick. If he wanted them to be whores - why say they are noble? If he wanted them to be noble - why he did them so whorish?
>>159208637
Yeah, I don't even know what kind of a world is worse than ours. Even WH40k looks better.
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>>159208637
Yeah, stuff like Akuyaku Tensei sure is wish fulfillment.
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>>159208637
>If Isekai doesn't have the MC coming back to his previous world as a goal it's most likely a shitty wish fulfillment.

that's one of the only few things I like about modern Isekai. I fucking hated when earlier ones kept whining about "I want to be normu!" even when the world they transported to was obviously superior. Isekai where the MC doesn't care about his previous world is at least being honest.

maybe in series like Now and Then and Digimon where the world is hostile and bullshit I can understand but fuck the MCs that "Just want to go home"
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>>159208390
>Males are more likely to fuck something that looks fuckable. Yet for a female hero fucking a monster would turn either an internal trauma or pregnancy, both heavily damaging her way of life.

I know there is a lot of titles about girls enjoying some monster cock. Unfortunately i cant provide concrete examples since i dont read such things. But you point is moot and invalid anyway.

>>159208465
And Neither Gobs are that monstrous, definitely not mc.
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>>159180887
>danmachi
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>>159208637
>If Isekai doesn't have the MC coming back to his previous world as a goal it's most likely a shitty wish fulfillment.
Yeah, turnips are fucking awesome.
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>>159208835
The problem is that unless you handle the character goals well you will be stuck in another story that's just about character living wish fulfillment life. You also underestimate how good our world is. None of those Isekais have anything even remotely comparable to video games, anime, or other forms of godly consumer art.

At least Subaru from Re:zero has a clear cut goal in his world for example. If it was just SOL spending life with Emilia it would be pure shit.
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>>159208738
>You can pick only one
I'm sure I can pick however much I want.
>acting high and noble but actually rotten inside people don't exist
Whew.
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>>159207779
What do you expect with Chinese webnovels? They get to act out their sick perverse fantasies out in fiction, and boy do they deliver.
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>>159180904
>but it becomes a giant like 20+ girl harem shitshow
To be fair, the focus is never squarely on the harem and less than half of the girls actually love him. Most are either just tagging along because of circumstances or are after the dick for political reasons.
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>>159208856
>a lot of titles about girls enjoying some monster cock
All hentai, huh? And what about something that was not written to fap to?
>>159208983
>acting high and noble but actually rotten inside people don't exist
I dont think they would hold their noble reputation for long.
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>tfw actually become enamored with fantasy after having read a bunch of shit over the course time
>try to write a web serial
>find self heavily influenced by incredibly very generic and standard tropes
>have to fight urges like a druggie fighting the needle

It's great to write shit out, but it fucking sucks to have these generic intrusive ideas pop up in my mind.

It's literally a case of being whitewashed by all the generic Isekai fast food you've read over the years and you gotta fight it at every step. Let this be a lesson for any of you who decide to go down the same path, watch out for the cheap temptations gnawing at you.
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>>159207779
>“Why are there only two? How about Sophia’s?” Belinda questioned without any restraint.

>“I gave it to her last night,” Leylin’s lips quirked in a slight smile, but Belinda immediately turned red as she cursed.
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>>159209069
>I dont think they would hold their noble reputation for long.
Oh boy, your in for some surprises in your life.
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>>159207544
To ease his consciousness and he's drugging the girls to lessen to mental stress on them.
author > (you)
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>>159208637
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>>159208970
but the "return to my old world" goal is usually not believable in the slightest (unless your life is getting fucked with like Subaru's)

can't you have a determined goal that doesn't fuck over the suspension of disbelief?
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>>159208970
>You also underestimate how good our world is.
Our world is only good for people living in the right countries, and rich people.

Personally I'd rather live in a world of magic like MT than be stuck in a place like Earth, where I have to be a wageslave in a shitty job. Maybe if I was a billionaire I'd want to return, but I think for most the appeal of isekai is going to another world and NOT returning.
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>>159208637
Fuck your turnips.
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>>159209002

98% of them pretty much include chewing on pills like druggies for powerlevels, that the setting MUST be in a dog eat dog world, and that everyone who isn't the MC's ally is a scheming villain so the MC is morally justified in killing him/her.

It's crazy how lifeless and repetitive shit can get once you've read one far enough. There are some that actually care about their story, but most are clones of the some other shit.
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>>159209204
>but the "return to my old world" goal is usually not believable in the slightest (unless your life is getting fucked with like Subaru's)
Neither is getting transported anywhere. A lot of Isekais specifically use some summoning magic to do it so in those cases it's not really unbelievable even if some old fuck tells them returning is impossible.
>can't you have a determined goal that doesn't fuck over the suspension of disbelief?
Obviously you can, but in most cases there is no real goal and the story just kinda becomes every day hijinks of some overpowered guy and his harem see Arifureta.
>>159209162
Excuse me I have a strong preference for moralfag permavirgins around the middle of power level chart that suffer a lot but manage to get a decent ending.
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>>159208970
Bruh, in one place you're a goddamned god while in the other you're wageslave Takeshi.
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>>159209002
though at least they acknowledge the fact that everyone in the world (MC, side characters, antagonists, rivals, greek choir, etc) is a violent sadistic murderhobo with a "if you have a hammer" mentality
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>>159209204
You will be at the walls after one week without toilet paper and sleeping with fleas.
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>>159209140
No, I can get it in human society. The noble are rich and search for some obscure pleasures. But here we are talking about the entire race. Take a look on generic dark elves: they are after dicks and don't hide it. As the result they often end up as a main slave marketplace, which not only helps their economy, but also gives them access to more and better dicks. So why would lewd elves hide their lewdness if it only damages them? Or is there something that I miss?
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>>159209069
Stop embarrassing yourself newfag.
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>>159209158
>To ease his consciousness(sic)
And this after his spiel about how might makes right? What a wishy washy pussy.
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>>159209348
I'm talking of character motivation not physics

believable != realistic
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>>159209369
I already sleep with fleas and I don't use toilet paper. Toilet paper makes my anus bleed.
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>>159203895
Sauce?
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>>159209469
>I don't use toilet paper
I'm curious.
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>>159209521
12 beast
same creator as Monmu
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>>159209415
>no Celty

I'm disappoint
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>>159209323
>98% of them pretty much include chewing on pills like druggies for powerlevels, that the setting MUST be in a dog eat dog world, and that everyone who isn't the MC's ally is a scheming villain so the MC is morally justified in killing him/her.
>It's crazy how lifeless and repetitive shit can get once you've read one far enough. There are some that actually care about their story, but most are clones of the some other shit.

This is why I like RtW so much. Even though it goes to shit later on, it is still pretty lighthearted compared to your average CN webnovel where the world is literally 'china in fantasy land'. I absolutely loathe it when the setting is in medieval notEurope and all the characters are still worried about face and shit. Fuck off with that shit chinks.
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>>159209558
Ah, the art did seem familiar.
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>>159209521
Im an Otaku but also a Ninja, that was sent to another world because a girls that my brother fucked came looking for him, so now im stuck managing his sloppy seconds as a harem until my brother shows up again and cucks my life again like he did in the previous world.
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>>159209348
>Obviously you can, but in most cases there is no real goal and the story just kinda becomes every day hijinks of some overpowered guy and his harem see Arifureta.

yeah but at least the MC has believable motivations
besides the goal of Arifureta was to return home
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>>159209617
>You dare? You dare to hit me back after I nearly killed you? You are courting death!
>Just wait until my parents/sect/etc hear about this!
>MC gave a wry smile
>repeat for every new bad person MC meets
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>>159209693
Thats a horrible intro.
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>>159209282
>Our world is only good for people living in the right countries, and rich people.
And in Isekais it's only good for literal gods. Doesn't change the fact that 99% of Isekai MCs are from a certain 1st world country.
> like MT than be stuck in a place like Earth, where I have to be a wageslave in a shitty job.
If you can't succeed in getting a normal not slave job on Earth you will die in an Isekai.
>>159209355
So make it that you're not a god in an Isekai.
>>159209460
Make Isekai life shittier or the MC really like his video games.
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>>159209409
>Or is there something that I miss?
Yeah, brain. My condolences, may you be more fortunate in your next life.
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>>159209438
He still has morals, he isn't a heartless psychopath so he is justified in his actions.
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>Re:Monster
Why did the author choose such a chuuni and irrelevant setting for the exposition? Is it because he's 14?
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>>159209815
or

have a good Isekai world and have an enduring, focused, and worthy goal in that world.

though lot of times the MC does have a goal (kill demon king, save kingdom, take vengeance on class bullies, etc.) but decides to just fuck around with his harem destroying all sense of importance of that goal
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>>159209726
> Obviously you can, but in most cases there is no real goal and the story just kinda becomes every day hijinks of some overpowered guy and his harem
>Arifureta

He never strayed from his goal you dumb mongoloid.
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>>159209902
part of me wishes the series goes full circle and has Mii kill the MC off at the end.
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>>159209617

Reading chinese stuff was my go-to for a while because JP novels take forever to get translated, but I eventually couldn't stand the fast food being stuffed in my face.

JP novel and webnovels have their own sins in the form of the majority of all popular fantasy stories being Isekai, game element, RPG/Dungeon, "misunderstanding" based bullshit with pandering afoot.

It's simply a matter of which poison you prefer to drown in when it comes to the 99% of garbage on both sides.

You have to look for the good stuff and more than often, the Nips can a make good novel than the Chinks. Not that nip authors are hammering out masterpieces every year, but they're certainly doing better for sure.
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>>159209815
>If you can't succeed in getting a normal not slave job on Earth you will die in an Isekai.
Not everyone can go for their dream job. The world is too big for that. There are so many people on Earth that all of us are just a cog in a machine.

Meanwhile, on fantasy isekai land, you tend to become the star of the show. Become someone important, while having wacky hijinks with your fantasy race friends. I think that is what most people here would want.

Now if I was living the dream on Earth I probably would want to go back. But I'm not.
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>>159209815
>you will die in an Isekai
So it is win-win situation. Either you get a good life or you die. No purgatory of a cog in the system.
>>159209822
Ad hominem, how new. And that's every time I start to shit on a shitty show. Is it really that hard to make a believable world?
>>159209902
The whole thing is poor written comfy self-insert. So yeah, could be that author is 14. Also, a trained special agent failed to defend against a stalker girls.
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>>159209902
>high-tech bioengineering fantasy world
Problem is, his original world was more interesting.
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>>159210006
I completely agree, nip WNs have their own overused cliches just as much as chink WNs do.

Stuff like cultivation though, I just don't understand the appeal. Like someone mentioned Warlock of the Magus World above, I started reading it and couldn't get very far. Once the MC was able to start increasing his stats quickly just with breathing techniques I was rolling my eyes constantly. Not to mention that obnoxious AI chip that.
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>>159210172
>I just don't understand the appeal.
The appeal is having a world where chinese quackery actually works.
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>>159210088
>Is it really that hard to make a believable world?
Why don't you show us you superiors skills? You obviously know better than anyone how to do it.
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>>159210006
I like Chink novels more because it felt that the MC earned their OP abilities unlike JP ones that give it to them in the first few chapters. The dog eat dog world gives more justification for the MC than JP worlds were everyone is lighthearted save the corrupt noble and the school bullies but the MC is an edgy twat anyway.

though the genre is repetitive as all hell
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>>159210088
>comfy self-insert
How in the world is it comfy? It makes me feel like I'm coming off meth and there are bugs under my skin.
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>>159210225

>I like Chink novels more because it felt that the MC earned their OP abilities

You're going to have to write off all the stories that involve the MC getting a mystical godly object inside them,, a ghost grandpa inside a ring helping him, being handed godly cultivation techniques, etc..
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>>159210225
>The dog eat dog world gives more justification for the MC than JP worlds were everyone is lighthearted save the corrupt noble and the school bullies but the MC is an edgy twat anyway.
Yeah, it seems like there are two extremes: JP novels that have almost everyone be a 'good person' at heart except the obvious bad nobles/church, and CN novels where everyone except the MC's family/harem is a psychopath 24/7.

Very few stories can tread the fine line between these two extremes.
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>>159180094
Can't he just transfer the Exp to a different class or something?
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>>159210222
Oh for fucks sake, man, we are not in the fifth grade to use that arguement! If only there were no better worlds - I would agree, that's a valid point, but we had like a fuckton of both western and eastern literature and movies with pretty well-built worlds. If I can't lift a box - it does not mean that noone can, it just means that I am too fucking weak and I should not try to pick the fucking box. The same goes here - if I can't make a better novel, it does not mean that a better novel does not exist. And as a reader I would rather not see a shitty novel pretending it is somethng worthwhile.
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>>159210338
even the ones with the magic macguffin they have to spend 100 chapters of cultivating/being chased to the ends of the earth by an old master because he looked at him funny before really getting into being OP

>>159210355
MC's harem are also psychopaths, only real exceptions are immediate family (as opposed to cousins, uncles, grandpa, etc).
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>>159210227
If you are a moralless bastard - you get a harem, a loyal army and top tier artifacts, also any challenger that appears is too weak to kill you. And you are either too moralless or too stupid to understand that you don't have a moral highground.
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>>159210493
Actually I have less morals than the MC and his constant fedora tips about how he's really helping people by raping them is disgusting. At least be like the nigger from Maou no Hajimekata and do it without remorse.
That goblin guy is such an annoying little sperg pussy that has to tell us how he uses tentacles and drugs to fuck his harem because he's too chickenshit to do it the old fashion way.
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>>159210394
>s-some one else did it a-already
Thought that much.
>but we had like a fuckton of both western and eastern literature and movies with pretty well-built worlds.
You can take them apart and shit on it the same way as here. You just like them, that's all there's to it.
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>>159170252
Wow dude does one dungeon crawl and gets two marriage proposes in the span of ten minutes. Dude is a champ.
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>>159210657
>You can take them apart and shit on it the same way as here.
The problem is that I can't do it even remotely that easy. And that is what is called "solid world-building". If I couldn't shit on REMOSTER - that would mean it is a good show.
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>>159210588
>Actually I have less morals than the MC
Holy fuck edge
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>>159209555
Warm water and towel.
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>>159210487

There's a good reason for chink authors making their characters drag out their power growth.

All Xianxia stories have a single premise to them: Become Immortal (and more often than not, become the strongest person ever).

Xuanhuan stories are even simpler than Xianxia ones since in those, the only thing there is to do is become the strongest person (not chasing immortality, though there are exceptions, of course).

JP webnovels aren't usually about becoming the strongest, but are character driven instead with the MC wanting to back home, save the fantasy world, find his childhood friend who also isekai'd bullshit.

You get the idea, and that's why JP authors just throw in cheats and high levels early on because they don't matter as much as the characters themselves.

Two completely different goals, and you also have to account that Chinks get paid for the webnovels for each chapter a viewer pays to read (ranging from 5 cents to 25 cents per chapter).

It's their livelihood so they have to drag and milk shit out to pay the bills.
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isekai
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>>159210829
That's your problem.
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>>159210922
>for each chapter a viewer pays to read
I hate this concept and I hate Qidian.
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>>159210922
unfortunately the characters are usually as flat as a board so it's biggest strength ends up being the biggest weakness as the series turns into "god-like MC and his harem of archetypical cheerleaders"

though the artificial dragging of Chink novels is shit though
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>>159210953
And your problem is liking shitty isekai.
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>>159210834
Yet I'm not the one self-inserting. Really makes you thunk.
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>>159210896
>warm water and clean towel every time you go in toilet
>in medieval world
Unless you get there as a revered hero with shitton of servants to be at your service and resources to be at your disposal... no, even then you would have a problems.
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>>159211081
And your problem thinking that your shitty novels isn't shitty.
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>>159211108
>isekai manga
>protagonist immediately gets dysentery and dies
>reincarnates
>immediately gets dysentery and dies
>takes him 7 reincarnations before he can get past age 10
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>>159211069

One of the most prominent examples of dragging and milking is Martial World and True Martial World by Cocooned Cow.

Some of the scummiest bullshit, with the main character stuck in a conversation for three chapters, or he'll level up for several chapters as the greek choir praises him in astonishment.
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