Owarimonogatari 3 set to air as 2 specials on August 12 & 13, 7 episodes in total Contains arcs Mayoi Hell, Hitagi Rendezvous, and Ougi Dark
CM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WdyIcDlK2o
more snail girl?
Thank god
Fuck shaft
ED by ClariS
>>159146996
No, clearly the Shaft fucks YOU!
I WANTED THE KIZU ART
They really took so long for 7 episodes?
>>159146852
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqyTE1yRDx4
>Snail and Spook arcs to balance having a Crab arc
Good
Waiting for Mayoi Hell, is my hell, oi.
>>159148755
>Crab
Literally who?
I want to try to get into this series. What's the correct order of watching everything?
>>159148958
The worst girl
>>159148997
Pick episodes at random.
>>159148997
Airing order.
>>159148997
http://galax.moe/monogatari/
Use that.
>>159148997
Release order. Other order would be the chronological one but you probably wouldn't appreciate Bake's style if you started with Kizus.
>>159148997
Alphabetical by the first spoken word in it's Italian translation.
>>159149108
Not a lolicon but Snail is my wife.
>>159149033
>>159149174
>>159149108
What's with monogatari lolis being more likeable than regular girls. I want to fuck Hanekawa but even then she's inferior girl when compared to Bat, Snail and Doll.
>>159149228
ragi is pretty based
>>159149354
Cuter and they actually have personalities that aren't archetypes despite one of them not having a personality.
>>159149406
>think he's just fooling around
>yfw he actually loves her more than hitagu
>>159149354
rrrgi has actual feelings for them instead of just being his normalfag beard.
>>159149504
He loves everyone more than crab.
>>159149354
You might have the disease known as "lolicon". Just out of curiosity, what is your opinion on this creature?
>>159149629
I've never fapped to loli, I prefer mature girls
Hanekawa > Loli Cat > Short haired
>>159149928
get out of /a/
>>159149990
I'll prove to you that there is nothing wrong with my taste
Why so much crab hate? What happened?
I like Gaen. Do I have shit taste? I probably do.
>>159150098
f cup-chan is too perfect to like. Her life is a lie.
>>159150241
>what happened
/a/ has always hated crab, reddit-kun.
>>159150241
Native English speakers understood the nuances of her character very poorly.
>>159150307
Her chest truly is the greatest, they're the perfect size despite Kiss-shot having larger
>>159150408
>muh deep tsundere
No, it's just nips having shit taste as usual. Crab should break up with ragi and get back with kaiki.
>>159150408
There's no reason to. She's just a normal girl. Why would anyone enjoy a ship like that in supernatural fiction?
>>159150502
Was this the best scene in all of monogatari?
>>159146852
KILL HACHIKUJI ALREADY
HER TIME HAS COME
TWICE
>>159148223
Kizu was a mistake
>>159150408
>the nuances of her character
>native English
Gahara isn't that popular in Japan nowadays though. The only ones who like her here are bakefags with muh deep romance and symbolism obsession and redditors. Your average /a/non recognized the worst girl at the start.
>>159150502
>In a hotel room
>Taking a shower
>Gets in a robe
>Crab's face appears in the window
>Talking on the phone to him while she's with her boyfriend
Symbolism.
>>159146852
well, its better than nothing
>>159150613
The worst girl always wins the mc-bowl. This is indisputable fact.
>>159150712
Did Kaiki omit the parts where he fucks a teenager?
>>159150712
Holy shit, why is Kaiki so alpha? Just look at these confident eyes, he just KNOWS he'll be pounding that pussy raw in an instant.
>>159150307
> /a/ has always hated crab, reddit-kun.
Fuck off. Haters and waifuwars ruin threads.
I don't get it /a/, I'ved watched every bit of the anime and I just don't understand. Why is every single girl in this show the worst girl, they're all trash. Don't get me wrong, I love this shit, but every single girl is fucking terrible, crab and cat especially. The least shit characters consist of snake, who really never shows up, and shinobou, who is just a deus ex machina plot device more than a character, not counting his sisters, these are the only two girls that felt like bearable characters. I don't care who he walks home gently, they are all garbage in my eyes.
>>159150802
He knows he's the best girl and could get anyone he wants because of that
>>159150802
> why is Kaiki so alpha?
He is the biggest cuck after Severus Snape. Kanbaru's dad and Araragi cucked him.
>>159150836
>implying gatari is anything more than haremshit
I want 3deep5u fags to leave.
>>159150759
Yes. He made up that whole story about being in love with Kanbaru's mother so he wouldn't have to admit he actually fucked Crab as payment. He really is a gentleman.
>>159150915
We still can have good threads.
>>159150983
He's just a cuck. That's why he left town while Crab is being plowed by Ragi
>>159150836
don't forget NTR faggots, all we are missing is /u/ for the holy trinity of reddit cancer
>>159150836
He's right though.
>waifufags ruin threads
But they don't. It's just that crabfags always shitposted about their waifu not getting enough screentime, so they need to be reminded how shit she is to keep them in check.
>>159150995
>good threads
What is there to discuss that hasn't been discussed already besides cute girls? Shitposting when newfags ask about airing order?
>>159151038
Having it but not using it is not the same as having it and losing it.
>>159150712
>No vanilla Kaiki djs
Why are nips so afraid of confident, older men?
>>159151101
> It's just that crabfags always shitposted about their waifu not getting enough screentime
No crabfags but crabhaters. By their logic less screentime somehow makes Crab worse.
Is mamaragi a closet shotacon? Or was it his dad that gave him his good taste?
>>159151053
>the holy trinity of reddit cancer
>reddit cancer
>anyone but DEEP posters and crabfags
How new are you? The word "Reddit" isn't used ironically here, son, lurk more.
>>159151143
After Hanamono came out I truly believed crab was gonna get dumped in college and Araragi would end up with monkey. Too bad Nisio's a puss who's too scared to end a relationship that's the incarnate of a philosophical fallacy.
Daily reminder that reddit's girl is Bat
>>159151222
>less screentime somehow makes Crab worse.
It does. This is a linear narrative. Not real life. Having a character uninvolved in the narrative as a love interest, is inherently unsatisfying for the viewer.
>>159151288
> Araragi would end up with monkey
You have to be very fucking stupid to believe in something like that
>>159151222
>By their logic less screentime somehow makes Crab worse
But we hate her not because of getting less screentime, you retard. Gahara is just a shitty waifu with retarded personality and Kaiki complex. I kind of liked her in Bake, but the more I compared her to others, the more I understood she's insufferable. It's been discussed here a thousand times, you must be new.
>>159151322
>pic not related
Bat and Crab are tied (unlike in Ararargi's heart)
>>159151322
>snek above snail
That's for showing us they have shit taste screenshot-kun.
>>159151384
> but the more I compared her to others, the more I understood she's insufferable.
Empty words.
Look
> Shinobu is just a shitty waifu with retarded personality and Seishirou complex. I kind of liked her in Nise, but the more I compared her to others, the more I understood she's insufferable.
>>159151322
>Reddit's girl
Nah, Bat is just best girl. She's favored everywhere, not only on Reddit, while Hitagi is a beloved waifu or MALfags, Gigguk, Redditors and normalfags.
>>159151375
Yes I'm stupid to believe in NisioIsin or any popular eastern fiction writers to change the status quo in any way shape or form.
I'm sorry to dream, you brain-dead husk of a human being.
>>159148997
don't watch it. it's shit. bakemonogatari is the only season with any sort of quality to it, and with every season following it becomes more and more a verbal masturbation by the author regarding how many meaningless words he can shove down your throat.
>>159151498
She actually has character development. Crab is just a shitty tsundere that started being less of a tsundere.
>>159151498
Like I said, it's been discussed here a thousand times, lurk more. And you obviously didn't understand what I meant by "Kaiki complex". Go back 2 reddit, my dude.
>>159151498
Dude are you an autist or something? That anon is merely giving his opinion.
Of course you can change words in a statement of opinion to change it to another opinion.
That's how the english language, sentences, and complete thoughts in general work.
>>159151554
So you haven't watched it at all?
>>159151587
> And you obviously didn't understand what I meant by "Kaiki complex"
Who cares what you meant.
>>159151706
>who cares what you meant
Crabfags, everyone
I like crab, I just don't think her and Araragi make a good couple.
Simply the best.
>>159151915
>>159151960
>>159152007
>>159152007
That's a cute boy, but the dress hides his bulge
>>159151915
>>159151960
>>159152007
>>159152042
That's a boy, you know.
>>159151573
> Crab is just a shitty tsundere that started being less of a tsundere.
Wow just like Bat.
You can describe every character in that way but it doesn't mean anything.
>>159152074
>>159152071
You seem to think that I care.
>>159151631
considering how it's just a shitty harem, i don't believe i forgot anything other than "it has almost no animation by hanamonogatari".
Reminder that bat is the only logical route immortality trumps all.
>>159152155
>>159152210
Imagine all the banter and descending talk she'd give you while bound, just the thought of it makes me diamond hard
>>159152210
>>159152242
That's the stuff of legends.
>>159152188
She ignored and threw away her first minion just because she doesn't need him anymore. She will do it with Araragi too.
>>159152155
I just wanted to make sure you know. Some people think that boys shouldn't wear these kinds of outfits.
>>159152300
I don't give a shit about the difference between a boy and a girl. I like cute things.
>>159151375
If Araragi had met Monkey first, they would have. Apparently it was stated
>>159152298
Even though she chose him over her first slave and chose to stay linked when they were separated. She almost killed Gaen when she sent ragi to hell, and she ended the world in an alternate universe when he couldn't find her.
>>159152074
>>159152298
>threw away her first minion
Ka ka, after he badmouthed, cursed and left her out of hatred, although she brought him back to life.
>>159151554
>bakemonogatari is the only season with any sort of quality to it
Crab fag
>>159151384
Crab would have fallen for anyone that tried to save her as she stated herself, she's glad it was Ragi though. Kaiki btfo
Musubi foreshadowed the true end to the series“If we’re still single by the time we reach our thirties…”
“If we are?”
“Let’s strangle each other to death.”
>>159152501
I want to hug math
guys, did you forgot that motherfucking Oshinois coming back?
>>159152501>only one of them dies>she haunts him for the rest of eternity
>>159152398
> Even though she chose him over her first slave
She didn't choose him. She just waited for the winner of the duel.
>>159152492
>Crab would have fallen for anyone that tried to save her as she stated herself, she's glad it was Ragi though. Kaiki btfo
I don't know what it has to do with my post, but Kaiki actually saved her, but kept it secret, since he's a gentleman who's ready to suffer and be hated by people in order to protect them. Kaiki true best boy.
>>159152883
So he's a cuck
Will we get three op?
Do we really have to respond to baiting shitposters like >>159152814? They get btfo every thread anyway
>>159152994
She really didn't do anything. First could kill Araragi and she even gave them Kokorowatari. She could lost Araragi easily but she didn't care. Am I wrong?
>They could add Zoku and air a full season
>But instead they book a different format like they're special or some shit
END ALREADY
reminder that this is the correct order of girls, anyone disagreeing has a shit taste
kaiki > bat = snail > monkey = math > bird > bee > crab > doll = cat >>>>>> ougi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literal shit >>>>> /a/'s taste >>>>>> snake
>>159153124
Their schedule is fucking hell
>still no raragi x math hatesex doujin
>>159153456
I hope Nisio doesn't stop adding math to his stories and Shaft doesn't stop adapting them until there is.
>>159153456
>Doujin
>Araragi tells Ougi the story about how he had hate sex with Sodachi (around 20 pages)
>Then Ougi reveals that he omitted something which made him feel even guiltier (basically he raped her and then he toned his story down) >And so Ougi proceeds to rape him because that is going to make him “feel less guilty” (other 20 pages)
>Author: Yukimi
>Every thread until Yukimi reads this posts and makes it.
>>159153456
Are you going to post this every thread?
>>159153121
>Am I wrong?
Of course you are, because you clearly didn't understand shit about that fight and Araragi's motivation. If you try to remember the talk Araragi and Hitagi have before that battle, you may recall Hitagi saying that she's trying hard to be Araragi's bride, that she's trying to keep their love intact. Araragi comes to a conclusion that one must not simply assume and acknowledge that he's loved by someone, he must try his hardest to actually earn this love and support it the way he can. This sets Araragi's spirit to fight Seishirou, to earn Shinobu's love and prove himself worthy of her. Shinobu didn't interfere because it was his fight for her, he must've done it by himself, like a true man. She never even asked him to do it, it was on his and only his insistence. As for the choice, if you ACTUALLY watched the series, there wasn't any choice at all. She's with Ragi by default and no man can change her mind. The problem she had with Seishirou was guilt of turning him into a vampire and the fact that she wouldn't be able to reconcile with him, because she's with Araragi forever and that could've hurt Seishirou's feelings. She simply was afraid to hurt him by rejection.
>>159153456
>>159153542
doujin artists are too busy self inserting into cat ntr doujin #53
>>159153661
> Could First kill Araragi?
Yes
> Did Shinobu do something to prevent it?
No.
Even though she knows what happened in Route X. Maybe she is stupid or something. And she didn't even talk with First. Just ignored him like he is nothing.
>>159148223
It calls back to Kizu too hard to air before it.
>>159153886
Anon, are you retarded? I'll explain it in classic way.
Ever heard of medieval tales about brave knights risking their life in order to save their princess from evil dragon and earn their love?
So, Araragi is a brave knight, Shinobu is a princess and Seishirou is an evil dragon.
> Did Shinobu do something to prevent it?
If she did, that would eliminate the meaning of this fight to Araragi. He wanted to prove both to himself and her that he's a worthy man who's ready to put his life at stake for her and earn her love by himself. As I said, that fight was Araragi's insistence. Shinobu could've dealt with Seishirou herself, but Ragi wanted to prove to her that he's a man worthy of her love and that she made the right choice, that's it.
>>159154239
> If she did, that would eliminate the meaning of this fight to Araragi.
YOU are retarted or she is retarted. Who fucking cares about the meaning of it to Araragi? Araragi is her everything and she could lost him for some stupid reason like
> He wanted to prove both to himself and her that he's a worthy man
>>159146852
I'm confused. 7 episodes in 2 hours?
>>159151375
They're compatible, they just completely missed the timing. I don't think there's any way they would date, but I don't blame someone for thinking that they would.
>>159154418
I guess you aren't familiar with concepts of honor and hard-earned love. Or you're just baiting.
Also
>implying Bat didn't put all of her faith in Araragi, whom she already "chose" from the beginning
>implying Bat, who was raised as a noble, mustn't respect Araragi's honor as a man enough not to interfere when he's making decisions for both of them
>>159154687
Sure. It's better to lose him and suffer.
>>159154655
I think 7 episodes and 2 of those are a 2 hour special together
I'm just glad we're getting Ougi Dark.
>>159154811
No. It will be like Neko Kuro, Hana and Tsuki. 7 episodes in 2 days.
>>159154885
Sorry, I didn't watch it when it aired
>>159154687
It wasn't just Araragi's honor. Shinobu spent most of the series up to that point worried about how special she was to him, and seeing him put her above everyone else in his life is what she desperately wanted.
What's with the recent surge of falseflagging ougifags?
>>159146852
Do we really need another season of this? Weren't the first 20 enough? When does this shit end?
>No snake posting
Come on, she's so sexual and seductive.
>>159155075
She's the worst of all. Her lustful body only deserves hatred.
>>159155075
>snek
>sexual
In what fucking world?
>>159154933
He could just die.
>>159155141
will this jog your memory?
>>159154752
I don't really see how he was at risk of death. It was a one hit fight, first one to get one hit in won. Unlikely to be enough to kill him. Not to mention that he was 99.9% human with his link broken at the time, meaning the oddity slayer probably wouldn't even have done him *any* harm at all.
>7 episodes in total
wait what, only 7 episodes at 24 min each? That's so little compared to even Owari S1, godamnit
>>159155193
Snail is a better loli god.
>>159155297
There isn't that much to cover.
>>159155405
At least its more than Hana
Also its weird they made Hana so early considering its one of the furthest in chronological order
>>159155297
Owari S1 covered 2 volumes while this only covers one
>>159155293
First could kill him without the sword.
Looks like it wasn't a problem for Shinobu because she could stay with Seishirou.
>crab is perpetually stuck with MC after being gently walked home because the author doesn't have the courage to dump the worst girl from the story and leave her as used goods
>>159154752
>lose him and suffer
She would just kill herself afterwards, as promised
>>159155316
Oh, and if anyone wants a cheap laugh, check out Nadeko's German >dub, Anon-Brüderchen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O74Hj9YUH4
>>159155516
> She would just kill herself afterwards
She can't kill herself. She tried in Kabuki.
>>159155556
She'd find a way, she nearly succeeded at it in Kizu if it wasn't for Araragi.
>>159155517
She sounds too old. Monogatari should never be dubbed in any language.
>>159150897
>fuck a girl second
>you're a cuck
>fuck a girl first
>you're a cuck
You just can't win.
>>159154687
Bat didn't choose rrrgi until her connection was severed in zoku(?).
>>159155297
Owari 1 has the same amount of pages and was adapted in 7 episodes as well, 2 for ougi formula, 2 for sodachi riddle and 3 for sodachi lost.
>>159155634
>Bat didn't choose rrrgi until her connection was severed in zoku(?)
What? Bat didn't need to choose, Araragi is the only one for her.
>>159155648
but Owari 1 was 12 episodes, with Shinobu Mail, or was that not part of Owari arc?
>>159155755
The first season of Owarimonogatari covered both books, Owarimonogatari 1 and 2.
>>159155595
Anyway she is a bad person because she chose to ignore Seishirou. It was her responsibility. She will do it with Araragi. Sooner or later.
>>159155755
Owari 1 I mean the Owari volume 1 book. Owari 1 is Sodachi arc, Owari 2 is Seishirou arc (shinobu mail), Owari 3 is this new season.
>this thread
When did Kaiki cucks become as cancerous as Snake fags?
>>159148755
The Crab arc is super short and also has Bird, Doll and Ougi parts in it.
>>159150802
I don't dislike Kaiki but he's not supposed to be "alpha", he's the bad end version of Araragi. Like how Kagenui is the psycho justicefag version of Araragi and Meme man being the closest to how Araragi turned out period.
>>159150897
Funny how that works
>Gahara still having buried feelings for Kaiki, Koyomi implied to be loosely aware of it but what can he do here anyway?
>Meanwhile Kaiki's still asshurt over Tooe, has some desire in being some sort of guiding force to Kanbaru except he has absolutely nothing of note to provide her (she doesn't need his money because she's rich and auntie Gaen's prepared to cover all her oddity troubles) and the person she confides in instead is Koyomi even after Kaiki attempts to give her advice (that ended up being worthless to her) in Hana. Koyomi himself is apparantly a lot like Tooe which might makes things weirder for Kaiki too I guess
>>159155869
>Anyway she is a bad person because she chose to ignore Seishirou.
No, since she would end up hurting him even more by rejecting him. She was afraid of it and didn't want him to suffer because of her anymore, that's why killing him off was the best decision, since she would never choose him over Araragi.
>It was her responsibility.
In some sense, yes. But Araragi decided to take care of it himself like a true loving husband.
>She will do it with Araragi. Sooner or later.
[citation needed]
Anyway, you sound like a mad redditor whose waifu got insulted, get out.
>>159156133
>muh edginess
>muh poker face
keiki has always being a reddit tier character not to the fact that he's a jew
>>159156206
> She was afraid of it and didn't want him to suffer because of her anymore, that's why killing him off was the best decision
[citation needed]
>>159156230
Did you need so many buzzwords?
>>159156133
The best girl meme is obnoxious as fuck.
>>159156266
Literally watch the series or read the novel, idiot, stop shitposting
>>>/r/eddit
Best novel cover bar none.
>>159156142
> Gahara still having buried feelings for Kaiki
It's not true. She is a big araragifag.
Araragi thinks that they had something between them, yes, but they hadn't.
>>159156341
I want to eat xyr ass out
>>159156317
She never said something like that.
>>159156400
I already have in my dreams. I have honestly dreamt of Ougi.
>>159156378
She is a big Araragifag and loves him more, I might be wrong but as far as I can tell she still had buried feelings for Kaiki too though. Since she doesn't act on it and Kaiki flat out ignores it altogether it means nothing anyway.
>>159155374
Snake is by no means loli, she has too well developed of a body.
>>159155316
Well? Plenty more where that came from.
>>159156378
We've discussed it here once. The final verdict was that she's either a terrible person who manipulates others by making them believe she loves them or that she was in love with Kaiki and still admires him. Don't rock the boat.
>>159156484
>>159156133
I only liked him during Nise. Then he was turned into a literal cuck who's taking care of his wife's daughter. Except even worse because Kanbaru's mom was never his wife/lover
>>159156471
Will a bullet through the head let me meet the love of my life? I want to be manipulated and dominated by her. I want him to deflour my ass and I want to live a happy life with her.
How much Gaen will be in these episode lads?
>>159156767
She is at the end of Mayoi Hell, and at the start and end of Ougi Dark, she has quite a bit of monologue in the books. She has quite a lot of dialogue. Though I suspect a bunch of it will be cut.
>>159156767
https://youtu.be/M7lNBMGmGF0
Will we see Tooe?
>>159156438
Read her conversation with Kanbaru in Shinobu Mail, she says it's too late for them to reconcile and that she's afraid to face him. Later on she says her final words to him and apologizes for hurting him so much.
>>159156767
Why does Gaen-san dress like that? She's too old for pokemon larping
>>159156971
> apologizes for hurting him so much.
Perfect. 400 years of suffering for this. What a fucking cunt. She is horrible.
>>159157050
If she wasn't as OP as she was everyone would be bullying her
>>159157050
I'll have you know that Gaen is still attractive and prime breeding age.
>>159156946
No. Tooe is in Zokuowari but that wont be adapted at this time. Maybe in an OVA if we are lucky.
>>159157139
>400 years of suffering for this.
That's entirely his fault though. And he wasn't even suffering since he wasn't conscious the whole time.
>she brings him back to life
>instead of trying to understand her he badmouths her and just kills himself out of hatred for her
>somehow expects her to literally jump into his arms after making her suffer and wish for death for 400 years out of guilt
If anything, Seishirou is the real asshole here.
You are trying to too hard, anon. It's a fight you can't win. Just accept the fact that she's a wonderful girl.
>>159157386
There is a story about Tooe in Owari 3
>>159157229
Never ever would I imply otherwise, my dear anon. But her fashion sense is still questionable.
>>159157398
> Just accept the fact that she's a wonderful girl.
Killer and man-eater.
>>159157619
She's still a lonely virgin.
The best girl is clearly Sodachi
>>159157655
Virgin? I doubt it. She has no shame.
>>159156378
>book is called "Love Story"
>Kaiki narrates
metaphors.
>>159146852
>video is blocked in my country
Fucking japanese jews.
>>159147211
>ED by ClariS
You better not be fucking lying to me anon. I heard they broke up a while ago and I'm pretty sad about it desu.
>>159157655
There's a line in the book where rrrgi says some tsukkomi along the lines of "value your chastity" and shinobu is like "I never valued that in the first place"
something like that.
>>159157619
And for THAT you should read Princess Beauty and Acerola Bon Appetite, my dear redditor! Also
>judging vampires for their natural way of life
>>159157697
>She has no shame
And yet she never tries anything actually sexual with Araragi and denies his offer to kiss her, stating that she'll do it only after they live together for 100 years. You can't get chaster than that.
You lose again, wow! Maybe you're just fishing for (You)s?
>>159157812
To which he replies that she's just putting an act like a schoolgirl and which is debunked when he asks her to kiss him.
Hanekawa (after becoming autistic sage jesus) is worst girl
So we finally reach the second last Monogatari novel, huh? It really must print money in Japan, the place who hates anime sequels.
Is Koyomimonogatari a must watch? Which is best version?
>>159157938
Most of Koyomimono is technically 'filler' the a lot of stories further into it are pretty enjoyable. The last two episodes are very important to have watched going into Owari S2.
>>159157836
>>159157888
Are you considering Kiss-Shot and Shinobu as separate characters?
Because claiming Kiss-Shot is a virgin is like those people that say Revy from Black Lagoon is one.
>>159157893
>autistic sage jesus
Are you talking about how she's supposed to be like in Musubi? I'm not judging it until we get that conversation between her & Araragi translated.
>>159157836
> And for THAT you should read Princess Beauty and Acerola Bon Appetite, my dear redditor!
I did. She became a vampire EXACTLY to be able to eat people she killed.
>>159158080
Yeah, but she's already autistic and sagely by the end of nekoshiro too.
>>159158023
Kissshot isn't a virgin.
Proof from Kabuki
She was more like a slut in the past.
>>159158296
Didn't "those who come" kill themselves immediately upon seeing her beauty or some shit.
>>159158296
>proof
Even though she was a princess who would've been guarded, and got cursed so that everyone who got close to her killed themselves.
>>159158356
What is Onimonogatari then? Her story about the village? Her curse gone.
>>159152210
platinum hard
>>159158023
>Are you considering Kiss-Shot and Shinobu as separate characters?
I think you're the one who's doing that, anon.
>>159158296
>proof
As I mentioned before here >>159157888
>To which he replies that she's just putting an act like a schoolgirl and which is debunked when he asks her to kiss him.
Also reading her backstory, considering her upbringing, and watching her character throughout the series implies that she never was involved in romance.
>>159158113
>I did. She became a vampire EXACTLY to be able to eat people she killed.
As an ultimate act of gratitude to their sacrifices. Her morals are pretty much explained there.
>>159158478
And where is it stated that she dated someone or was involved in sexual acts? She was treated as a supernatural deity there for some time and that's it.
I couldn't stand Math's arc. In fact, there's very little of the past few arcs that I have enjoyed.
>>159158672
>>159158710
I like her but it's different compared to a lot of the other arcs so it's bound to be hit-or-miss with people. Her Off-Season story doesn't even really feel like something that belongs in the series at all, as much as I enjoyed it.
>>159158627
> And where is it stated that she dated someone or was involved in sexual acts?
Maybe she didn't fuck with villagers or just didn't tell about it. She probably had sex with Seishirou.
It's hard to believe that she is a virgin.
> To which he replies that she's just putting an act like a schoolgirl and which is debunked when he asks her to kiss him.
Araragi's damage control.
>>159158726
>>159158672
>>159158726
>>159158888
Stop this.
>>159158888
>>159158924
No. This is the best set ever. It needs to be posted.
>>159158787
Suruga Devil also felt somewhat out of place to me, even if I enjoyed it for what it was. All I know is that it kills a supreme amount of suspense heading into something like Owari 3 when you know exactly who will still be alive by the end of the story. Owari 1 was just so rough in general to me, it killed a lot of the momentum that I felt the series still had coming out of, say, Tsuki.
>>159146852
I love this snail
>>159158983
>>159158983
ougi is flat
>>159159046
I don't like the last one so I'll stop now. See you in 3 days.
if crab wasn't in the series it would be a 10/10
she is the single factor holding it back
>>159158888
>>159158983
>>159159046
delete these
>>159159104
She's got budding breasts according to the figure.
>>159159229
Ew. What a terrible figure.
>>159159229
Damn, your's is dirty. I keep mine nice and clean.
>>159159116
She's barely even there. Even in Bake, outside of the scenes freaking establishing her & Araragi's relationship she has minimal importance outside of being the chick who Araragi is dating, the end of Suruga Monkey being the only exception. It's fine to dislike her but some of you guys try too hard to hate on her.
>>159159400
It's a terrible photo.
>>159159023
Owari 1 felt nicely written for me though. Good pacing with lots of cliffhanger, back to some bake style mystery, concise dialogue full of emotion and relatable aspects and tied a lot of parts of the story without being "gaen comes and infodumps what we should know".
>>159159476
It felt like a side story more than a continuation of the suspenseful points that had already been introduced, though. Is it an alright story on its own? Sure, I guess, even though it didn't really do too much for me personally.
But in the context of where it is in the series, it makes no sense. We're clearly ramping up to something significant that the whole series and current cast has been building towards, and all of a sudden you're introducing and centering a prolonged arc arc around a girl that very likely won't come back or will have a minor appearance at most if she does, you're not really delving into the aberration/supernatural themes that the series revolves around, and it's backstory/development for Araragi that didn't ever really need to be told. It doesn't articulate anything new about him that will speak to his character in a significant way moving forward, because we've been watching the results of that development for a fuckton of time already. If Sodachi was earlier in the series, it might still feel a little out of place but it'd certainly not kill the forward momentum as much as it did being in Owari 1.
>>159158867
>She probably had sex with Seishirou
>probably
And yet it's never implied that she was romantic with Seishirou. Seishirou himself talks about vampiric partnership
>Maybe she didn't fuck with villagers or just didn't tell about it
You kind of went full retard with this one
>It's hard to believe that she is a virgin
Nice argument there
>Araragi's damage control
Funny how you ignore the second half of that sentence. Let's actually think.
>royal upbringing which resulted in her being a well-mannered moralfag
>soul so pure it's purity literally makes you kill yourself since your life seems complete to you
>no friends at all for like two hundred years because of the curse, no possible physical contact
>randomly becomes a god at a local village and lives aside from villagers in her own cloud castle
>described as being oddity-slaying buddies with Seishirou, nothing more
>after turning him into a vamp out of loneliness, he curses her ass and kills himself
>no friends for next 400 years, wants to kill herself now, lonely, is hunted for money and ideology
>saved by Ragi, the first person to help her in 600 since Deathtopia, the first person she could consider friend since Seishirou
Now her behavior
>no romantic advances towards Koyomi, only teasing, headpats and headbutts
>bathing together with kids isn't considered sexual in japanese culture
>reacts to being called beautiful like an autist, gets red like a tomato and kicks Ragi
>gets so embarrassed after being kissed, she messes up Frenchies and Italians like a virgin
>refuses to kiss Araragi, stating that she'll do something like that only after they live together for 100 years, gets embarrased as hell
>just plays like a kid with Ragi in Owari even in her adult form
She behaves like a virgin middle schooler, anon, which is pretty much Araragi's description of her. She was lonely her whole life and the only creatures to try and help here were Deathtopia and based Ragi.
/my autism
>>159159457
The face is gross.
>people shitposting and giving us Ougifags a bad name.
>>159159457
She is pretty flat chested but they do exist.
>>159152399
I have had this daki for a while, I wish there was one that looked more like Ougi instead of having big tits, but it's fine.
>>159159979
Not even an ougifag but it seems to be mostly falseflagging, s/he never had a following this big before.
>>159159755
>you're not really delving into the aberration/supernatural themes that the series revolves around
It does, it just doesn't stem from the focal chick in question for once but instead another character in that arc. That isn't immediately obvious at the time though.
>>159159891
I think it looks fine. I could be biased since Ougi literally only has 2 figs.
>>159160059
It never used to be like this. I remember being one of the only Ougiposters until recently.
>>159160110
I guess I mean more that it doesn't delve into the aberrations in the same way that most of the series does since the entirety of it is so retrospective.Which again, serves to make it feel even less significant in context.
>>159159755
Owari 1 isn't a side story in any way. The main character of the story is Koyomi, and Owari 1 is the arc created to explain his origin and directly ties with Kizu, and it's weird that you think the story of the main character doesn't need to be told. And besides the fact that it is was a supernatural story focused on Ougi, Monogatari in general isn't strictly a supernatural adventure but also a drama about teenager problems and growing up which was the point of that arc. And third, Sodachi isn't a character that doesn't come back, she appears in almost every book after Owari 3.
Your problem seems to me that you're tired of the series and just wants to end it fast, complaining about killing "the forward momentum" to the conclusion.
>>159159805
>She behaves like a virgin middle schooler, anon, which is pretty much Araragi's description of her. She was lonely her whole life and the only creatures to try and help here were Deathtopia and based Ragi.
I don't see how this is that surprising (while we don't know exactly how young she was when she was turned I imagine it was pretty young because otherwise she would probably have been married off already as is custom with princesses in olden days). So as human she never had experienced romance, and as vampire she was eating people, not dating them.
Clearly she had a crush on Seishirou but he pretty much rejected her after he found out she was a vampire, and the fact that he didn't know makes me doubt their relationship went that far to begin with, a specialist not realizing his lover is a vampire? seems a bit of a stretch. No doubt that was her straw as seeing people as anything other then food. Until Koyomi came along that is.
Now whether or not she is actually a virgin I don't know, but she has not ever been involved with romance. It's why she rejects the kiss in kabuki, she didn't consider the kiss to have any "erotic" value, it was purely a romantic thing for her. And considering she knows that Koyomi was with Hitagi at the time she was not interested in just playing around. It's why she said in 100 years, after Hitagi is long dead.
>>159159805
>a prostitute is a virgin until it's made explicit that she isn't
What is with your weird Schrodinger's virginity argument? Autism?
>>159159755
The series is about solving peoples problems, oddities are just representations of their problems. Owari is very not filler because it's all about Araragi for once. Since all of the series up until now is about solving other peoples problems, it might look like filler not because it's the first time it's mostly just Araragi.
>>159160356
Romance ain't the same as fucking. No virgin dresses like this.
I thought we purged the purityfags back in 2015?
>>159160163
I'm sure were the only two Ougi fags. Every single post besides a few in this thread has been me
>>159160620
Count me in as well.
>>159160385
>a prostitute is a virgin until it's made explicit that she isn't
>a prostitute
what? another great all-debunking argument, I see
>>159160356
>It's why she rejects the kiss in kabuki, she didn't consider the kiss to have any "erotic" value, it was purely a romantic thing for her. And considering she knows that Koyomi was with Hitagi at the time she was not interested in just playing around. It's why she said in 100 years, after Hitagi is long dead.
That's what I'm implying, she clearly has a strong sense of chastity, considering how important she thinks kisses are.
>>159160513
>No virgin dresses like this
This dress was given to her by Deathtopia and there isn't anything "whorish" or so about it considering early Renaissance fashion
also
>that nigger language
Truly a smart opponent
>>159160620
Ougi is my personal fav. Waifu/10. The only girl I dislike outright is snake, and Crab is just annoying.
>>159146852
Interesting. I really hope they don't animate anything after Ougi dark though. Holy hell is the novel shit after that.
>>159160620
Were you the one posting the porn and Hammer art?
>>159160893
Zoku is fine.
>>159157050
>Why does Gaen-san dress like that? She's too old for pokemon larping
She collects "pokemon" that are other people. And she "catches" them by making them owe her favours. Her multiple phones are her pokedex.
I think crab is the best girl. Can you explain how shit my taste is?
>>159161187
Every girl is top tier. Your opinion is completely fine.
>>159161187
No, not until you post a full ranking
>>159160950
Yes.
>>159152155
>dem hips
>dude
no chance in hell
>>159161472
I respect you as an Ougifag but I don't respect you for lewding Ougi.
>>159161573
Ougi is quite lewdable in a slightly rough yet soft manner
>>159161474
Koyomi's Ougi is a cute spooky kouhai who terrorizes him
Kanbaru's Ougi is a stand-in Koyomi because Koyomi's too busy to hang out with her nowadays
>>159161682
I am fine with that thinking, it's just almost no one draws fanart or porn of Ougi in a rough way, it's just 100% soft all the time.
>>159146852
Math was a mistake, we should've had these two arcs from the start
>>159162760
Yes, we should have had Sodachi Riddle and Sodachi Lost from the start.
>>159151498
>Shinobu is just a shitty waifu with retarded personality and Seishirou complex. I kind of liked her in Nise, but the more I compared her to others, the more I understood she's insufferable.
>>159155869
You are one gigantic retard. How fucking buttblasted are you crapfag?
>>159160385
You have been going at it since the start of this thread and you keep being beat in arguments but you keep talking like a retard.
>>159149629
Read this to find out more about that creature -> (C91) [Yuunabe Shinkouchuu (Tanabe Kyou)] Loli Combi Ecchi cat x vamp (Bakemonogatari) [English] [desudesu]
>>159150502
There is a requirement >>159150408. Kaiki needs to confess his love to her first.
>>159166332
He is too dedicate to Tooe though.
>>159166378
I know! He even makes sure that Kanbaru is safe since she is a legacy of Tooe to him. He might even fall for Kanbaru is this keeps up. Just look at how Kanbaru looks like when she is with Kaiki. You'll never see that face when she is with other people.
>>159148997
Bake
(Kizu)
Nise
Neko (Kuro)
Second Season
Hana
Tsuki
Owari
koyomi
don't forget who best girl is
>>159166650
>He even makes sure that Kanbaru is safe
He hasn't done shit to keep her safe though. Did absolutely nothing when she was rampaging around attacking people pre-Suruga Monkey too. Kaiki can't even throw money at her like he does everything else either since her family is richer than he is anyway.
>>159150712
That is not Hitagi though. I think that is Gaen Tooe. She happens to look similar to Hitagi. This is Hitagi in front of the car. I think the message of that OTP is that "Hitagi wants to be like Gaen Tooe in Kaiki's eyes" . To put it in simple terms, she just wants him to love her.
>>159167228
Hitagi's never once described to be like Tooe.Koyomi is though.
>>159150913
After that scene, Shinobu gave Araragi one good vampire punch and dragged his butt out. The next thing he knows, he is already in front of their gate.
>>159156142
Does Araragi & Kanbaru hooking up make too much sense for Nisio to go for it or something?
Karen would've been a boy if Nisio wasn't scared of highschool boys.
>>159167286
We never saw how Tooe looked like either. Based on how that other girl reacted to the younger Kaiki, we know that they are close. Kaiki was either dumped or never confessed. My guess is the later. He is probably doing the same thing to Hitagi. He maybe confident in lots of thing but when I comes to love he is a hardcore TSUN.
I couldn't remember what Ougi sounded like
now I do and my opinion about her suddenly improved
>>159148997
Like this
Is it bad that I cried when Hachikuji left?
>>159168022
We know Kaiki never confessed.
>>159168022
>We never saw how Tooe looked like either.
Not talking about looks, if that was the defining factor he'd be going after his sister or some shit. There's only one person in the cast who's ever described as being like Tooe, he and Gahara act pretty fucking differently too. There's nothing relating Tooe to Gahara even metaphorically at all, you're looking for parallels that aren't there man.
>7 episode
So 2 Mayoi Hell, 2 Hitagi rendezvous for day 1, 3 Ougi Dark for day 2?
>>159168091
>Bakemonogatari season 2
Kek
>>159168097
No
You're still a faggot though
>>159167633
Kanbaru if out in Araragi's circle. He is just being a big brother to her. Kaiki, however has some lingering feelings for her mother which is now being directed to her. Kaiki might even fall for her if he gets too close to Kanbaru.
>>159156142
Kaiki's advice was not useless .In fact his assistance give Kanbaru a good chance in finishing the job herself. Kaiki was well aware of the situation and decided to leave it to Kanbaru's hands. Ararargi did nothing except support Kaiki's position to let Kanbaru decide. Araragi knows his place, that is why he said to Kanbaru that she was giving him to much praise he does not deserve.
>>159168097
Everytime I rewatch the anime and I'm nearing that scene it's always atleast one tear.mostly a whole fucking lot though ;-;
>>159168615
>i bit your tongue
hot
>>159168327
Is it confirmed 7 episodes?
>>159168489
>Kaiki's advice was not useless .In fact his assistance give Kanbaru a good chance in finishing the job herself.
No it didn't, all the advice everyone was giving her bogged her down. In the final act she tosses everything all the different characters have been feeding her all arc aside and decides for herself how she wants to handle things. That anon isn't incorrect, technically.
Regardless the only actual importance of that scene was Kaiki dumping his Snape knockoff backstory.
>>159168640
T-That's ruining the moment, anon.
>>159168740
They're such a cute couple though.
>>159168489
>which is now being directed to her
Where was it being "directed to her"? It's made plainly obvious that he's attempting to look after Kanbaru out of his delusional loyalty to Tooe, calm your shipperfag senses.
>>159168811
That's definately true.
>>159168227
Nothing said that it was about the looks. We never got to see her. The other girl in the OT is definitely not Hitagi that is a fact. If you look at other parts you would see that the girl was in Kaiki's mind and Kaiki was in Hitagi's mind. That could not be any clearer. If you deny the Hitagi has some lingering feelings for Kaiki you would not see any relation between Hitagi&Tooe.
>>159168654
Yes
>>159168940
You are making shit up with absolutely no basis other than headcanon. You should stop now.
>>159168091
What about Oremonogatari and Katanamonogatari?
>>159168968
I'd prefer Snail god + Bat shadow + full vampire muraragi after yotsugi dies
>>159168974
Source?
>>159169006
Yozuru, not Yotsugi.
>>159169029
http://www.monogatari-series.com/owarimonogatari/
This will be the final series right? There's nothing more to tell and it will resolve the secret conspiracy of everything setting up to get rid of Araragi and take over the town right?
Snail god + Immortal ragi is end game.
>>159169006
I'm pretty sure ragi would just cuck bat with snail like he's doing with crab.
>>159169116
They didn't even tell about the adventures of math in her new school.
>>159169116
They still have Ragi's college days and police office harem.
>>159167633
The two only met because he's dating Gahara, they went over this ages ago (though it was cut out of the anime I think?) They clearly have compatibility and Hana further defined how influential/important they are to each other but the plot just wouldn't have happened otherwise.
>>159168489
How are you managing to settle on Araragi being a brother-like figure to Kanbaru (he's more like a Hanekawa-like figure to her judging by her internal monologue in Hana, more blatant in the LN but it's still there in the anime, but whatever)
yet managing to misconstrue Kaiki practically admitting that he feels he owes a parent-like duty of responsibility to Kanbaru as Kaiki potentially falling for her? What the fuck?
>>159169116
There is a lot more if SHAFT wants to do off-season. If they plan on ending their adaptation, it ends either after Ougi Dark or Koyomi Reverse.
I'm so glad she'll be back.
>>159169304
So this is a potential stopping point for the adapted story? Have they stated anything like that?
>>159169367
Same. It sort of ruins the feelings at the end of Shinobu Time and the idea characters can die, but it's still nice to get back second best girl.
>>159168722
Kaiki's advice goes two ways. Either to use it or not. Kanbaru did use it a prize. After all that it has been settled she threw it away. All of that was within Kaiki's advice.
>Regardless the only actual importance of that scene was Kaiki dumping his Snape knockoff backstory.
What exactly is a knockoff on the backstory? Remember, this all started way before and was hinted to date as far back as Hitagi End where Kaiki met Rouka in the abandoned building.
>>159169421
I don't know if sources actually exist but I remember people posting that SHAFT would adapt off-season but this was before Nisio announced he was going to make main season entries again.
>>159169367
Nothing better than a perverted loli who enjoys being groped by boys younger than her.
>>159169436
Did you even read Mayoi Hell? Nobody stays dead in Nisio's universe.
>>159152248
should there have been two of them perhaps?
>>159169494
I read all of Owari vol. 3 but I do admit I haven't read anyone else Nisio done other than Monogatari.
>>159169297
The one Kaiki-narrated arc we got opening with the character saying that he lies a lot made the character's fangirls think it's a free pass to just make shit up and interpret everything freely whenever he's involved
even though the entire series is told by unreliable narrators and Kaiki himself not being unique in that regard
Will there be toothbrushes?
>>159168867
It was not a delusion, it was a request from Tooe. Him looking out for Kanbaru will eventually make them close. How close? who knows. But it would not be far fetched if he does fall for her since she is a remnant of his beloved Tooe.
>>159169603
You are actually retarded if you think they would have a romantic relationship, it would be a father-daughter relationship, that is if they even keep in contact.
>>159168999
I did not make that opening theme. I did not put kaiki or the other girl inside Hitagi&Kaiki's minds respectively, I just pointed out things that people can think about. That is all.
>>159169603
It's far-fetched because there's nothing implying anything of the sort. Something you apply to her relationship with Koyomi but not her even simpler relationship with Kaiki for some reason.
>>159146852
>Commercial posted on the official channel owned by the copyright holder
>Blocked for copyright reasons
???????
>>159169437
Kanbaru used the head as a prize because she had it there and then. She also says that she'd figure out how to handle things regardless, even if she didn't have it.
It's not something specific to what Kaiki said. All the shit Kaiki and her mother and everyone else said to her was bogging her down. She was able to do what she needed to do once she acknowledged that and tossed it aside, we get a big elongated scene about this.
> this all started way before and was hinted to date as far back as Hitagi End
You know Suruga Devil was released before Hitagi End, right? Shaft just aired it out of order
Also Kaiki's backstory being similar to Snape's isn't some new observation, no way you're not aware of similarities given how often people mention it
>>159169113
All right. It feel weird that they are going to rush it but I understand why.
>>159169297
>he's more like a Hanekawa-like figure to her judging by her internal monologue in Hana
Araragi will never level up to Tsubasa. I doubt that Kanbaru will put Araragi in the God level category. Araragi even discouraged Kanbaru from looking too highly of him. Kanbaru is just consulting to him because she trust him and they are close but no more than siblings. Those monologues you are referring to are probably on Kanbaru's side but they were all indirectly turned down by Araragi himself by saying that she should not think too highly of him.
>he owes a parent-like duty of responsibility to Kanbaru
It might seem like parental but It is just an answer to a request from Tooe.
>Kaiki potentially falling for her? What the fuck?
You are right, it is pretty shocking but we should not completely dismiss it. Kaiki's calling card does magic. First Hitagi and now it's Kanbaru.
>>159169651
>would have a romantic relationship,
"would" and "could" are totally different. I'm on the "could" side.
>it would be a father-daughter relationship
I don't find kaiki as a father type figure. He is not built to that kind of setting. Everything he does is out of LOVE - either money or woman. Watching over Kanbaru falls under his LOVE to Tooe.
>>159170557
Anyone in the series "could" have a relationship with anyone else. When you start thinking and discussion "could", you just become a shipper.
>>159169807
>It's far-fetched because there's nothing implying anything of the sort.
First Kaiki needs to back down and think less of Kanbaru. I don't see that coming because he is dedicated in fulfilling Tooe wish. Could Kaiki someone completely forgot that he is doing it for Tooe and will actually care for Kanbaru instead, Who knows? But strange things could happen.
> Something you apply to her relationship with Koyomi
Araragi's case is pretty much straight forward. Kanbaru just trust him and they are close. They somehow had that bond between them after Kanbaru had that 1on1 battle with Shinobu. Araragi is thankful for that. Kanbaru really helped him there in Shinobu Mail.
>>159170366
>Araragi will never level up to Tsubasa.
That's not what I said. I said he's like a Hanekawa-like figure "to her".
> I doubt that Kanbaru will put Araragi in the God level category.
It's not me speculating, I'm stating a fact. The way she constantly self-refers to how Araragi does things in Suruga Devil is extremely reminiscent of what Araragi does with Hanekawa. He is by far the most prominent person in her thoughts too, judging by Suruga Devil. Atleast parts of it have been fantranslated into english if you want to go check baka-tsuki or something, don't take my word for it if you don't want to.
>but they were all indirectly turned down by Araragi himself by saying that she should not think too highly of him.
I'm not pairing them up. I could using your standards with Kaiki though - since any sense of affection could bud into romance, Araragi deeply cares for Kanbaru beyond normal standards and Suruga Devil formally stated that Kanbaru herself was as influential on his own behavior throughout the series as his behavior was for her, so why not, right?
>It might seem like parental but It is just an answer to a request from Tooe.
and what I'm saying is that tying that to romance is nonsensical because it's implied nowhere.
If you want to take the route of
>guy and girl interacted, it's a ship guys look at all this completely baseless hypothetical shit I just thought of that could hypothetically happen that could hypothetically lead to romance!
then apply to everyone atleast. I dunno what it is about Kaiki that attracts this level of weird headcanon = fact faggotry.
>>159158531
Dagnabbing hard you mean?
>>159170069
>ll the shit Kaiki and her mother and everyone else said to her was bogging her down
Kanbaru is not that inconsiderate. Kanbaru still cares about he mother even though they have a rough relationship. Every information about her mother is important regardless where or who they came from. I doubt Kaiki would ever tell a lie to taint Tooe name especially to her legacy - Kanbaru.
Anyway, She did use the head and then gave it away. Even if she was able to formulate another way, she still went via Kaiki's advice. Nobody can change that fact.
>You know Suruga Devil was released before Hitagi End, right?
It does not affect it because it was written by the same author. Kizu was written after Bake too.
>aiki's backstory being similar to Snape's isn't some new observation, no way you're not aware of similarities given how often people mention it
What exactly is that Snape? The only Snape I see is the one in Harry Potter.
>>159170600
I say "could" because I don't see all the pieces yet. I wont say "could not" either because things are not set in stone yet. If Kaiki would adopt Kanbaru as his daughter, I would definitely say "no way!" but then again people who loves father-daughter incest will say otherwise.
>>159171192
>Kanbaru is not that inconsiderate
Who said anything about being inconsiderate? Tooe, Kaiki, and so on are not her. Kanbaru needs to act for herself, doing so doesn't make her inconsiderate towards her mother. No doubt you'll acknowledge that when Kanbaru says that she can't blindly hate Kaiki without having a reason for do so but you won't acknowledge that for the rest of the story despite her entire drawn conclusion stemming from that.
>It does not affect it because it was written by the same author. Kizu was written after Bake too.
I'm replying to you saying "it was hinted back as far as Hitagi End", which wasn't before this arc. Is English not your first language or something?
>What exactly is that Snape? The only Snape I see is the one in Harry Potter.
It is that Snape. Same "my waifu married someone else had a kid and then died and now I'll look after that kid from a distance under the facade of being an asshole within the story!" backstory, hence the comparisons.
>>159157771
There's a new replacement already.
>>159168032
Kaori Mizuhashi did a great job
>>159171625
Boring character is boring.
>>159170871
>They somehow had that bond between them after Kanbaru had that 1on1 battle with Shinobu
Their "bond" has been explained since Nadeko Snake. Granted the anime cut a metric fuckton of character-building dialogue out of that story arc but if you were paying attention to what she was saying even in the anime adaptation it shouldn't be a mystery to you. From the beginning, she wanted from Araragi what he's done for Gahara. Kanbaru admires him deeply to the point where even Ougi latches onto it. Araragi also cares for her beyond normal (to the point where it started irritating Senjougahara & Hanekawa, atleast), understood her issues of insecurity almost immediately and in general spends more time with her than he does most other characters in the story.
I don't pair them together but I can see why people would, especially after Hanamono which properly defined how Araragi sees her. Makes a ton more sense than this narrative with Kaiki that you're spinning if nothing else, where you're main argument is that "it COULD happen because it's technically not 100% impossible" as if that couldn't apply to any crack pairing.
>>159171734
How do you find her boring?
When's Kagenui coming back
>>159171911
Never anon sadly. I don't know why Nisio hasn't brought her back yet after Owari, but Nisio seems to shaft the specialists a lot.
>>159171998
Gaen shows up a ton. To the point where people want her to show up less even.
>>159170972
>That's not what I said. I said he's like a Hanekawa-like figure "to her".
Tsubasa is god level so I don't think anybody can use her in an analogy unless they are referring it in a form of adoration like Araragi does.
>The way she constantly self-refers to how Araragi does things in Suruga Devil is extremely reminiscent of what Araragi does with Hanekawa.
It is probably because you heard/read a lot of Kanbaru's monologue. I'll see if I have time to read it myself.
>I'm not pairing them up.
I meant how highly she thinks of him. Not that Kanbaru confessed to him or something. That was probably the summary of how Araragi appears to Kanbaru based on her monologue, you are talking about. Araragi seems to be aware of it also. That is why he discouraged her. He was like saying - "you got the wrong Idea about me!".
Araragi&Kanbaru's relationship though started out vague and then made clear at the end so we can't see anymore beyond that. In kaiki's case, it started out very specific that is to fulfill a promise. Let us just look at it this way. Tooe is gone and the only one left is Kanbaru. Kaiki can't get his mind off Tooe and Kanbaru is here. If Kaiki will love someone it is definitely someone that is is here and Kanbaru is the only one here. In time, they will eventually get close. They will start their relationship talking about Tooe all the time and then Kanbaru will start to feel how much Kaiki loved her mother and then Kaiki will see how much Kanbaru resembles Tooe. What's next, who knows? That is what is exciting about it! :-)
>and what I'm saying is that tying that to romance is nonsensical because it's implied nowhere.
I'm just saying it is possible. You don't need it to be implied, you just need to think about the situation they are in. It is just like a weather forecast, the storm might drift and not arrive but you get ready for it anyway.
>>159170972
>. I dunno what it is about Kaiki that attracts this level of weird headcanon = fact faggotry.
Ask those people who really loves Kaiki. Who tells that Hitagi should just leave Araragi and be with Kaiki without knowing that Kaiki is the one who is rejecting Hitagi.
>>159146852
>7 episodes for 3 arcs
I will never understand why Shaftshaftstheir most successful franchise so much, are the novels short? Because why wouldnt you just do 12 episodes so that every arc had a comfortable 1 hour and 20 minutes long.
>>159172305
>Not that Kanbaru confessed to him or something.
They've both admitted that if they met earlier they'd probably be dating. They both care about each other to the point where it makes others uncomfortable. If they're both single and around each other in the future they could get together following your logic, it's a scenario that can't be completely denied so it has to be deemed possible instead of being recognised as baseless shipperfaggotry.
>>159169565
No. You have to read the side stories for more imouto brushing.
>>159172552
Owari vol. 3 is kinda short but it could go on for like 9 episodes. Mayoi Hell is sort of short so it can go on for 2-3 eps, Hitagi Rendezvous is short enough to get 1 episode out of it and Ougi Dark would be the bulk of the season. The first season of Owari was 2 books combined and it was 15 eps.
>>159171457
> Kanbaru needs to act for herself, doing so doesn't make her inconsiderate towards her mother.
So you are on the saving yourself route. That is not actually accurate because Araragi himself said "help others to save themselves". That is really ironic. the inconsiderate part there is you saying that she said that everyone's advice is "bogging her down".
>"she can't blindly hate Kaiki without having a reason for do so"
I don't see any relationship between that statement and her acting for herself.
>I'm replying to you saying "it was hinted back as far as Hitagi End", which wasn't before this arc.
Hitagi End(Koi )is pre Owari and Hana is post Owari. Hitagi End(Koi) is before Hana. I don't see any problem with that regardless which was released first.
>"my waifu married someone else had a kid and then died and now I'll look after that kid from a distance under the facade of being an asshole within the story!"
Kaiki was the one at a lost there, so we should give him a break.Hitagi End was specifically written so we could understand Kaiki better and it seems like it had an opposite effect on you. The idea that Kaiki is a liar got a hold of most people.
How are the current copies of Kizumono 3 online?
>>159173076
Non-existent.
>>159173161
Fuck. I was expecting poor quality rips at worse.
>>159173213
BD on July 12. Just a bit longer.
>>159172913
>So you are on the saving yourself route.
No, I'm on the "don't let others try to dictate what you do to the point where you have no idea what to think anymore" route, she outright says this to Koyomi even. She wanted to help Rouka but, among other things she was struggling to be decisive about, Kanbaru wasn't she if it was "right" to help her because of various things people had been telling her.
>I don't see any relationship between that statement and her acting for herself.
She felt she had to hate Kaiki because Koyomi hates him. Koyomi has sufficient reason to hate Kaiki but Kanbaru doesn't, so she struggled to do so. By trying to hate Kaiki she wasn't thinking for herself. This theme gets repeated over and over and over all throughout that arc. Since the beginning of the series Kanbaru has had insecurity problems (this being outright stated as early as Nadeko Snake, maybe earlier if I'm misremembering) and Hana was her finally confronting it hard.
You didn't "get" Hana, despite it not being all that complicated at all.
>Hitagi End(Koi )is pre Owari and Hana is post Owari. Hitagi End(Koi) is before Hana. I don't see any problem with that regardless which was released first.
I was just replying to you saying "it was hinted back as far as Hitagi End", which wasn't before this arc. That's all.
>Kaiki was the one at a lost there, so we should give him a break.
I'm not hating on the character in that manner. All I'm saying was that his backstory is a knockoff of Snape's.
>The idea that Kaiki is a liar got a hold of most people.
Most people don't give a shit that he's a liar. Only people like you who use his "liar" status as a free pass to make shit up, everyone else already knows that the entire series is narrated by unreliable points of view and understand that Kaiki isn't especially unique in that regard.
>>159172751
>The first season of Owari was 2 books combined and it was 15 eps.
It had 13 episodes.
TIL basic human charity without expecting repayment makes you into a cuck. Do you basement dwellers have so little experience with actual social interaction that you misunderstand anything even resembling love, friendship and romance? By this logic fucking Gandhi was cucked by the entirety of India, Joan of Arc was cucked by the French army, and that Socrates was a cuck for the study of philosophy itself. Get some friends and don't let your life revolve around watching japanese cartoons for children and shitposting on a mongolian cartoon board you pathetic fucking degenerates.
>>159173708
>basic human charity without expecting repayment
No one is talking about this in this thread.
>>159171798
>Their "bond" has been explained since Nadeko Snake
> Kanbaru admires him deeply to the point where even Ougi latches onto it.
>From the beginning, she wanted from Araragi what he's done for Gahara
>Araragi also cares for her beyond normal
>From the beginning, she wanted from Araragi what he's done for Gahara
I only see a "perverted bond" there in Nadeko Snake. Their real bond sprung from their involvement with Hitagi. Araragi is somewhat sorry because he somehow took Hitagi from her. All Araragi does in her house is clean her room and nothing more. Also, Araragi spends almost every hour of everyday with Shinobu and cares for her more than anybody else including himself. So if they would be irritated with that routine room cleaning, they should get irritated more with Shinobu being 24/7 with Araragi. The thing with Ougi is a one shot deal just to give her a chance to get introduced to Araragi. That admiration has already be crushed by Araragi in Hana - he said that she should not think highly of him that much.
>I don't pair them together but I can see why people would,
> Makes a ton more sense than this narrative with Kaiki that you're spinning
Kanbaru is like family to Araragi so I don't expect anything more but people could still fanship them if they like - we do have "deep friendships" category there so they can fall on that. Kaiki's case is special because he has a history with the Gaens. Kanbaru is the only remnant of his beloved Tooe - a legacy as he calls her. Coincidentally, a legacy is related to money&property, the one that Kaiki loves. Also remember, Gaen Izuko also has some kind of bond with Kaiki as well - remember the threat that Gaen will disown him being her underclassman. That means that they are somewhat close which explains why Izuko was worried about Kaiki well being. There is more connection there compared to Araragi's bond with Kanbaru.
>>159172571
I would like you to quote the exact dialog from the LN/Anime. It would be a great help as a reference.
I would however take that she is willing to be his mistress. That is a fact.
>>159174031
>Koyomi: “This might be inappropriate, but…Kanbaru. This isn’t about what you said, but if I’d met you before I started dating Senjougahara, I think I might have ended up dating you.”
>Kanbaru: “Yeah, I think the same thing if I had met you before being charmed by Senjougahara-senpai. It’s really rare for me to feel like this about a member of the opposite sex.”
>Koyomi: “I see…”
Nadeko Snake, chapter 2.
>>159173917
>I only see a "perverted bond" there in Nadeko Snake.
It's perverted because its a a fanservice/harem series.
>Their real bond sprung from their involvement with Hitagi.
You're speedwatching. Even in the anime most of their dialogue in that arc amounts to Araragi telling her that she doesn't need to hang out with him to feel close to Hitagi or because of Hitagi, and Kanbaru constantly insists that this isn't what was going on. She further says that she wants from Araragi what he did to Gahara (how he helped her get her shit together, Kanbaru herself has a lot of baggage and Araragi mentions her insecurity early on in that arc)
> Araragi is somewhat sorry because he somehow took Hitagi from her.
During the beginning of Nadeko Snake he felt awkward about hanging out with his girlfriend's ex-stalker. After that nothing of the sort is ever mentioned again.
>The thing with Ougi is a one shot deal just to give her a chance to get introduced to Araragi.
It doesn't sound like you're aware of the full deal about Ougi's existence so I dunno what to say here without spoiling things.
>That admiration has already be crushed by Araragi in Hana - he said that she should not think highly of him that much.
Kanbaru says the same thing about herself to Araragi all series, and yet Araragi admires her anyway, confirmed in Mayoi Hell.
>Also remember, Gaen Izuko also has some kind of bond with Kaiki as well - remember the threat that Gaen will disown him being her underclassman. That means that they are somewhat close
Gaen has the same relationship with him as he does the rest of the specialists.
>There is more connection there compared to Araragi's bond with Kanbaru.
There's no connection there. Kaiki makes no effort to get close to Kanbaru despite having the entire story to do so and Kanbaru is indifferent towards him. You're arguing that there's something there based around a bunch of baseless hypothetical shit you invented up.
>>159173570
> "don't let others try to dictate what you do to the point where you have no idea what to think anymore"
Araragi was the one saying that to her though. He said that she was not being herself thinking what other might think about what she is going to do. He advised her to do what she think is best. He even reminded her at the end that people might get angry on the action she made.
>By trying to hate Kaiki she wasn't thinking for herself.
>Since the beginning of the series Kanbaru has had insecurity problems
I never saw her that way because Araragi said otherwise when she was seeking for his advice. For me, it just make sense that you should not hate someone in behalf of other's people grudge. It's meaningless.
>it was hinted back as far as Hitagi End"
The devil part case was brewing way before Hana, it was even mentioned in the story telling part. I just mentioned Kaiki meeting Rouka in Koi to prove that.
>All I'm saying was that his backstory is a knockoff of Snape's.
That is just preference so I don't have to object to that.
>, everyone else already knows that the entire series is narrated by unreliable points of view
That is the problem, people believed that he was unreliable when he told that story. He even hinted that he got you already from that start which was him telling a lie. Yet he proceeds by telling that you still need to be cautious. That is an ultimate con job. It is like a "not joke" but in this one he never said "not" even at the very end.
>>159173917
>There is more connection there compared to Araragi's bond with Kanbaru.
That bond is what spurred rrragi to act the way he did all throughout the series according to what he says in that car scene in Hanamonogatari.
I like Kaiki but Kaikifags themselves are insufferable sometimes, goddamnit man.
>>159174108
That is probably where the "mistress" thing started. She is a professed lesbian that is why she stressed opposite sex. In any case, it was physical attraction. Typical between opposite sex. No commitment at all. Araragi is just being a pervert there but he eventually got knocked off the ranks because Kanbaru was more perverted than him.
>>159175243
Araragi wasn't just being a pervert there because this was before he started doing that with her. In that arc he was just trying to ascertain why Kanbaru was so eager to befriend him, and they just ended up naturally getting along better than he expected.
Elsewhere in that arc in the LN version they both at different points casually say that they love each other too. Their relationship, whatever you want to think of it, only gets more fleshed out from there and it's completely understandable why people would ship them. Those people actually have stuff from the series to pick from and not random bullshit fanfiction like what you're doing with Kaiki.
>>159175243
The mistress stuff started from a scene in Nise I believe.
You could argue a case for Araragi getting with most of the chicks (except Nadeko) and you still can even now (definitely moreso than before with Kanbaru I'd argue), Gahara simply got there first.
Kanbaru's too good for Kikey, where did this crack ship even come from. He's a cynical faggot and Kanbaru's someone trying to recover from depression and self-loathing, all he talks about is money whereas Kanbaru is richer and also doesn't care about money, and all he has to offer her in general is awkward stories about her mother which is hardly romantic.
Stick him with Kagenui or if you must Gahara or something.
>>159174693
>It's perverted because its a a fanservice/harem series.
True but still perverted.
>She further says that she wants from Araragi what he did to Gahara
From that, I'm guessing that she is already acting like a "mistress".
>During the beginning of Nadeko Snake he felt awkward about hanging out with his girlfriend's ex-stalker.After that nothing of the sort is ever mentioned again.
It is just natural to say that.
>It doesn't sound like you're aware of the full deal about Ougi's existence so I dunno what to say here without spoiling things.
If you are talking about the energy drain thing sucking part of the rainy devil, I already got to that point. In my view it was just a catalyst. As per Gaen's explanation, Shinobu birthed Ougi thought matter creation and Araragi seeded it with his inner self & self criticism. Gaen termed it as "joint production". Kanabaru was literally just a bridge between Araragi&Ougi by introducing them to the other.
>yet Araragi admires her anyway, confirmed in Mayoi Hell.
I was going to read the entire arc just for this but I stopped when I read this
"Still, even knowing the logic behind it, it doesn’t feel right to just leave Kanbaru out. She may be a little different from the rest, but I don’t want it to seem like I’m excluding a beloved friend of mine."
Kanbaru is just a FRIEND!
>Gaen has the same relationship with him as he does the rest of the specialists
I don't see her being to worried about someone more than Kaiki. It can't be helped because he was somewhat involved with a family member of hers.
>There's no connection there. Kaiki makes no effort to get close to Kanbaru despite having the entire story to do so and Kanbaru is indifferent towards him.
Maybe not yet. But not hating him because other's does is a good start. Her willingness to accept his calling card is also a good start.
>>159175482
>Their relationship, whatever you want to think of it, only gets more fleshed out from there and it's completely understandable why people would ship them.
Like I said, people are free to ship them but I Araragi plugged the romantic one by saying in Mayoi.Hell. "deep friendship" shipping is still open on the table. I guess being a "mistress" is also on the table (w/o commitment that is).
"Still, even knowing the logic behind it, it doesn’t feel right to just leave Kanbaru out. She may be a little different from the rest, but I don’t want it to seem like I’m excluding a beloved friend of mine."
>not random bullshit fanfiction like what you're doing with Kaiki.
That harsh but I understand because their relationship is just starting.
>>159175582
I mean it brewed from there but was revealed in Nise.
Gahara is just a plug or a stop sign to indicate that he is already taken but Shinobu is the one that got to him first.
Tsubasa was careless when she tried to stop Araragi from killing Kiss-shot (now Shinobu). She has been paying for that carelessness ever since.
Shinobu now have the luxury of being with Araragi 24/7 being her provider hence "Master". Omae which is a less formal form of "Anata which can mean "darling" or could also be used by bossy wives. She even sleeps with him at night - hugging each other.
>>159154239
I've never heard this way of explaining it. I guess it makes sense.
When I saw Shinobu Mail when it was airing I was just disgusted by how it all went. I thought she was the worst coward in the world to let them kill each other, especially right after Kabuki where she saw herself kill the world out of selfish loneliness. It was all presented so disgusting, I couldn't help but dislike Shinobu.
Maybe it's presented better in the LN? Especially, I wasn't satisfied because they didn't say anything afterwards. There was no final words between the two to let me know what that vampire was thinking.
The guy making those walls of post is actually autistic isnt he?
>>159176642
Kanbaru you will always be my beloved FRIEND (w/ benefits).
I'm a hardcore fan with Monogatari, so many times I would even try to escape reality with lucid dreaming, I would be in the broken down prep school where I would often talk with Hachikuji in the park and help Ougi with the being spooky, but one day as I was talking to Ougi, we went to my dormitory for a private talk. She immediately said, "You know you could live with us forever.." I gave him a confused look and she continued, "We understand that you live on earth and you REALLY wish to live here". I then said "How..How did you know?" She then giggled and said "Because we've been watching you, orokamono!"
This was a dream come true and I almost cried right there. He then said, "I talked with Meme ojii-san and he agreed that you would be PERFECT for the specialists, you just have to do...one thing". She then held my hand and looked deep into my eyes and said "...You have to kill yourself for the transfer to work correctly." I then gave her some questions, "How long do I have before the deal expires?" He then said "Meme said 3 months.." I added by saying "What's the most painless way?..." She giggled again, "Suicide will require pain buuut...if you want it quick...Get a gun and a nice shot to the head works.
I then agreed and she gave me a kiss on the forehead, "I know this will be tough but once it's over and done, you'll get to live here!" I then woke up and this was last week and i purchased a gun. I might actually kill myself because that dream just felt too real to be fake and my life isn't doing so grand.
>>159177268
Do lesbians actually allow their male friends to platonically fuck them?
>>159177296
Not fucking them, but a lot of hugging and maybe some kissing, but not very often.
>I was only nine years old
>I loved Ougi so much, I owned all the Blu-rays and merchandise
>I pray to Ougi every night, thanking her for the life I have been given
>"Ougi is love", I say, "Ougi is life"
>My dad hears me and calls me a faggot
>He is obviously jealous of my devotion to Ougi
>I called him an orokamono
>He slaps me and sends me to my room
>I am crying now, because my face hurts
>I go into my bed and it is very cold
>I feel a warmth moving towards me
>I fell something touch me
>It's Ougi
>I am so happy
>He whispers into my ear, "orokamomo"
>She grabs me with her powerful sleeves and puts me on my hands and knees
>I'm ready
>I spread my ass cheeks for Ougi
>He penetrates my butthole
>It hurts so much, but I do it for Ougi
>I can feel my anus tearing as my eyes start to water
>I push against her force
>I want to please Ougi
>She roars a mighty roar as she fills my butt with his love
>My dad walks in
>Shrek looks him deep in the eyes and says, "How profoundly strange"
>Ougi leaves through my window
Ougi is love, Ougi is life.
>>159177526
>>Shrek looks him deep in the eyes
You fucked up.
>>159177865
Goddamn shit. I'll try again in a few weeks.
>>159176625
I think by that point you're expected to believe in Shinobu as much as Araragi does. She's certainly not one to back down from a fight, even if there's no way to win.
Additionally, the way she sent Seishirou off by eating his corpse was revealed to be a very sincere way of honoring him in Waza. Even though only she really knew the context.
>>159146852
Nice
>>159171835
yknow i normally only lurk in these threads and never reply, but damn is it weird to see my art being posted by someone outside of a paint or drawthread
>>159177526
>>159176625
>I thought she was the worst coward in the world to let them kill each other
The thing is that Shinobu really believed in Araragi, to the point where she trusted him to handle that fight. As I said, it was mentioned in his talk with Hitagi, that you must work hard to truly earn someone's love and prove yourself worthy to them, which is what Araragi doing and Shinobu can't do anything but accept it and put all of her faith in him. If anything, you may blame Araragi for being too risky, which will be wrong too. It's a matter of honor and human values. Araragi isn't Shinobu's little kid whom she must nurse, it's kind of the other way around, he's the one who takes care of her and makes decisions for both of them. So if you try to criticize either of them, you're pretty much insulting Araragi's worth as a man and as a husband in some sense.
>>159182407
What program do you use?
>>159182865
well the one posted there was made in paintbecause it was for one of those dyw in the (ms)paint threads,but usually i use sai
>>159182908
I don't care for the character but the art is nice.
can someone post that quick rundown on monogatari watch order i have no clue and i want to get into it
>>159153141
switch bird and bee
>>159149042
The only correct answer.
>>159153141
Snake gets a bit better after her Off-Season ln, for what it's worth. People praise Koi because muh lying-but-not-completely-lying-so-deep conman who's grumpy and single just like me :D but from the perspective of Nadeko's character it alone isn't really a satisfying end to what Nadeko Medusa sets up we don't really see what happens her beyond being mostly forcefully pacified. We get a mention of how she's doing in Owari v3 but even then it's just a mention. Her arc is by far the slowest fucking one in the entire series, within the main series it's akin to Kanbaru if she just never appeared again after the end of Suruga Monkey, that's the point where Nadeko was at.
Hope someone translates Nademonogatari soon so others can read it.
>>159153141
A fine taste.
>>159182407
I save all the drawfag Ougi art I see.
so tired of monogatari already
>>159184076
Don't watch it then.
>>159184076
I felt that way after watching kizu 2, but I started a rewatch and it really is incredible
>>159184076
I'm less tired of it than Isekai shit.
And I don't even watch Isekai shit.
>>159184076
I started reading the books and I rediscovered my love for the series.
>>159184076
It's different enough from all other anime that it's refreshing to have once a year
>>159149928
why does she eat the bugs
>>159150289
No, she's pretty naisu
>>159150289
She seems like she'd be pretty cool if she didn't just exist to dump exposition all the time. I like her weird overbearing big sister type-thing she has towards Araragi too.
>>159155316
Remember throwing 100yen at the Meijin Shrine this new year. I still miss that money.
I would like to watch a prequel about Oshino, Kaiki, Yozuru, Gaen and Orizuru in college.
>>159186321
>>159186372
I actually enjoy listening to her explaining stuff and for some reason I really like her outfit it goes well on her.
>>159186874
I like her VA a lot, Satsuki Yukino has one of the best cute older woman voices around. Too much of her exposition dumps are her repeating the obvious though, it annoys me.
Don't really mind the Shaggy cosplay, she's a dork but too OP for anyone to call her out on it.
>>159187112
Get ready for Ougi Dark where there will probably be an entire episode of just exposition.
>>159187153
I hoping that the shorter format of it will keep shit like that to a minimum.
Ragi's girlfriends
>>159187705
Shinobu is his slave
Ononoki is a doll
Snails a corpse
Araragi is such a deviant. Cant he just have a normal loli relationship?
>>159187766
No because he's a true patrician
>>159187766
>snail is a corpse
But she's not.
>no comfy monogatari saturdays this whole season
Ah well. At least there's Kizu soon.
people are more concerned about boss
>>159148958
Why is kanbaru the absolute best?
>>159172305
Hanekawa and Araragi's relationship is much different than Araragi and Kanbaru's.
Araragi adores Hanekawa, that is true, but he also feels a rivalry with her, something deep inside he always refuses to acknowledge, while Hanekawa just wants to see eye to eye with him. It's why Ougi and Hanekawa are so tense when they meet. Something in Araragi wants to "best" Hanekawa in a sportsman like way, but she trounces him all the time when he starts to get competitive. There is one part in Ougi Dark that shows that, but I hope the anime really brings that home.
Kanbaru has a more traditional peppy senpai/kouhai relationship with Araragi, where the kouhai is subservient to their senpai. It's mostly respect and admiration past the point of her jealousy toward him because of Hitagi. Maybe small hints of envy, but not the deep rooted rivalry he wants from Hanekawa.
>>159192100
I think that guy was just saying that he's like to Kanbaru what Hanekawa is to Araragi because Kanbaru constantly within her internal monologue says "Araragi would handle x like this" or "that randomly reminds of the time Araragi did y" and so on, like what he does with Hanekawa. She puts Araragi on a pedestal and has a weird complex about him, and has a relationship with him that has plenty of romantic tension or whatever you want to call it but no actual romance. Obviously it's not exactly the same dynamic but I get the comparison, there are similarities there.
>>159186521
I remember some dude ended up drawing this idea. Nisio likes spinoffs so there's a chance of it happening.
>>159171998
Oh for fucks sake, I'd rather Gaen disappear than Kagenui I'm going to miss her voice
>>159177285
I never got this pasta because every character in your lucid dream is you're self and killing you are self kills the characters too, unless MLP fags truly are this delusional
>>159192100
Araragi has a legitimate inferiority complex around Hanekawa. He still does in Musubi even. He calls it a rivalry but he's dressing that shit up, when Ougi was arguing with Hanekawa during the Sodachi arcs he was rooting for Hanekawa.
Whereas not wanting to disappoint Kanbaru's expectations in him is apparantly something that pushed him to try harder, according to what he says to her near the end of Devil.
>>159192941
The original pasta is about Final Fantasy VIII. Lurk more.
>>159177526
>Shrek looks him deep in the eyes
you fucked up faggot.
>>159177526
New monogatari: Shinobumonogatari
>>159196878
Why does she wear the mask?
When's kizu 3 out?
>>159196955
She's a big girl
>>159197155
Jul 12
>>159197155
Sometime this month.
>>159193351
Araragi has the real inferiority complex near OSHINO, in front of Hanekawa what he feels is literally a long term influenced worthlessness, which is not his fault as our wonderful class rep is too perfect, to the point it is fucking scary to even us audience sometimes, in other words he oftem feels like he should be of much more importance, or he is no just good, he pushes himself so far to make up for lack of skills, its technically shonen thing done in wuch manner that it can make sense to grown up nobles among men.
>>159197465
>Araragi has the real inferiority complex near OSHINO
What makes you say that? As far as I can tell Araragi thinks of Meme as an aloof weirdo but also with ideals that he admires and a friend who keeps fucking off without saying goodbye. Didn't really ever seem like a full blown inferiority complex to me, unless I'm missing something here.
>in other words he oftem feels like he should be of much more importance
I dunno man, that was the theme of the punishment visions he went through in Mayoi Hell except he didn't even seem that bothered by the revelation that he wasn't that important in the grand scheme of things, but rather that he just didn't care much about his own life/stuff in general.
>>159196878
Why there are dolls with big tits?
>>159196955
It's an Oni mask. She's been called a demon a shit ton of times.
>>159187112
>she's a dork but too OP for anyone to call her out on it.
That right there is the winning combo. You're absolutely gaudy both in personality and visual and yet no-one can do anything about it.
The fact the sky changes when she appears just emphasizes her innate ability to not fit in.
>>159187766
Ononoki is the corpse, or rather a Homunculus (a soulless artificial human), snail is a ghost, bat is just bat.
>>159193351
>Araragi has a legitimate inferiority complex around Hanekawa. He still does in Musubi even. He calls it a rivalry but he's dressing that shit up, when Ougi was arguing with Hanekawa during the Sodachi arcs he was rooting for Hanekawa.
That's because he is fucked up. Ougi's behavior towards Hanekawa is because those feelings are present. That he internally screams "Hanekawa can't lose!" is just proof positive his mind is as fucked as anyone elses.
The fact he still considers himself faithful and monogamous to his girlfriend is also proof the man is still off the deep end.
>>159196955
It's a metaphor for how her monstrous deeds are just a facade and that she is a human at her core.
>>159202069
Ougi Travel just shows how far off the deep end Araragi is for Hanekawa.
>>159202069
>The fact he still considers himself faithful and monogamous to his girlfriend
I mean, the only ones Gahara gets on edge about thinking that they might steal Araragi away from her are Hanekawa, Kanbaru and Sodachi.
Hanekawa's been discussed by other people in this thread, nothing's going to happen there despite what he thinks of her.
All the stuff between him and Kanbaru that Gahara worries about is initiated by Kanbaru, he himself doesn't really flirt with her but just treats her like a bro.
He doesn't (or can't, maybe) think of Sodachi in that way, period.
It's the magic lolis that Araragi goes gaga over but I don't think Gahara ever calls him out on that.
>>159203208
Gahara can't call out what she doesn't see.
>>159203600
Doesn't she know that it's happening though?
>>159203892
Araragi is pretty secretive about what exactly goes on with Shinobu around her.
kanbarugatari where she wins ragi when
>>159203892
She knows about shinobu, she doesn't know about snail or doll.
>>159205575
>gets ntr'd by aryarygi
>now she wants his dick
Monkey doesn't make any sense.
>>159205575
It's not happening man. Boy-Ougi is basically her replacement Araragi since Araragi himself is too busy to hang out with her nowadays, start shipping those two together instead. Suruga Bonehead's really blatant about it even and moreorless opens like this:
>Kanbaru (on the phone to Araragi): Clean my room please!
>Araragi: I'm not even in town anymore and you're still asking me to do this jesus christ you entitled cunt clean you're room yourself for once I'm not a fucking maid goddamn
>Kanbaru: Well shit
>Ougi out of fucking nowhere: lol I'll help you instead
>>159203208
>>159205499
I wouldn't say he is exactly secretive he probably doesn't just tell everything without being asked, and she doesn't ask so...
Shinobu and Hitagi avoid each, they pretty much pretend the other one isn't relevant. Probably because both are afraid to lose Koyomi if they were to force a choice. But I sincerely hope this choice will get forced and he will not just marry Hitagi and continue to hang on to Shinobu as well.
(Personally I expect him to choose Shinobu if said choice was forced upon him, but the way the story is going now, it doesn't seem like such a choice is going to happen...)
>>159202434
It's sick. Ougi tries in that story to brush away a stray thought about how she wants Hanekawa to smile at her.
And then we have the commentaries for Koi, where she literally says it's unfair how cutely she delivered a line.
It's beyond terminal at this point how deep Araragi's denial goes.
>>159206682
One day he will get over his cat complex.
>>159206776
ITTY
BITTY
KITTY
TITTIES
>>159203208
>implying Araragi and Sodachi strangling each other to death isn't the endgame
>>159206776
It's not like it really matters at this point.
>>159206835
It would make a great doujinshi
>>159187942
>tfw you just spent 3 days watching 12 hours each day just so you could perfectly finish the rewatch in chronological order on July 1st
I swear to god fucking hell shaft.
>>159208410
I was waiting for the date to be announced before doing what you did, and how we have to wait almost 2 months.
>>159206835
>Implying bat would actually let that happen
Even if he only thought once about it, bat would know. I don't think she'd actually let her live if she knew.
>>159208712
She wouldn't stop shit, she'd just kill herself too.What'd actually happen is that Araragi wouldn't die due to vampirism and Sodachi just haunts him instead anyway.
>>159208875
She does do her best to stop Araragi from dying like a retard or getting into serious trouble.
>>159208495
I stopped waiting exactly 3 days ago, because I didn't want to watch like 31 hours in 1 and a half days.
>>159208875Well alright, I'm fine with that.
>>159208957
>She does do her best to stop Araragi from dying like a retard
When?
>>159208957
>like a retard
Araragi helping her under the circumstances he did in the first place is objectively retarded, she has no right to hate when that behavior comes hand-in-hand with the reason why she falls for him to begin with
same goes for Gahara and to a lesser extent Hanekawa too, they knew that the guy they're pursuing wasn't normal
>>159209021
There's multiple times in Tsuki. She saves him from jail and zombies in Kabuki too. Then there was the time he was attacked by the hybrid monster in Owari 2. Then she goes into rage mode to demand Gaen revives him in Owari 3. She's not perfect at it, but some mortal accountant girl isn't going to get past her.
>>159209021
Also, when?
>>159209173
That doesn't negate the fact that she is very interested in keeping Araragi alive.
>>159209188
So only cases where she caused the issue in the first place or it being Gaen's plan and Araragi not actually being at risk of harm then
@159209429
(You)'ve spent tons of time fishing this thread. (You)'re not getting any more.
>>159209173
That's why Gahara and Shinobu don't ever argue against him too, even when he's doing dumb shit they'd be hypocrites not to support him
Hanekawa does but arguably she can since she decisively lost the rrragibowl
>>159209188
>Then there was the time he was attacked by the hybrid monster in Owari 2
What are you talking about here? The stuff in Shinobu Mail? That was Yotsugi, who saved him both onscreen and offscreen mulitple times in that arc.
>>159209188
>>159209021
She also specifically states in Tsuki that if he is close to dying she will drink his blood and turn him into a full vampire without hesitation to keep him from dying.
>>159209610
>even when he's doing dumb shit they'd be hypocrites not to support him
or I dunno, they could try spending a fraction of the effort he spends trying to understand them to try and understand him. The only one who ever properly questioned the way he looked at the world was a magic oddity tulpa lady he inadvertantly created.
>>159210063
But they do spend fucktons of effort trying to understand him and make him happy.
>>159210277
>they do spend fucktons of effort trying to understand him
Most of them don't, they spend fucktons of effort ensuring that Araragi understands them.
>and make him happy
Not what I'm talking about. They constantly enable his in-canon dumb behavior and then get upset about it after the fact knowing what sort of thing it could/would lead to.
>>159210063
>The only one who ever properly questioned the way he looked at the world was a magic oddity tulpa lady he inadvertantly created.
Oshino and Gaen do too.
>>159210551
>>159210063
>tulpa
>>>/trash/