IRON-BLOODED ORPHANS

>>159064939
I honestly hope there's a sequel to redeem this show if possible. I'm kind of glad I waited to watch this show. I didn't have to wait week by week just to have the dagger get pushed inch by inch.

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>>159064939
>It was so good for an entire 44 episodes

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>>159064939
>It was so good for an entire 44 episodes

>>159065142
>>159065158
It was good though
The last episodes just leaves such a shit taste it's hard to remember it being good.
I finished watching it 3 hours ago, so I still remember that delicious taste before it was tainted.

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>>159065246
>It was good though
It wasn't. The first season had a huge stretch of episodes where nothing happened followed by an anticlimactic ending, the second season is even worse where shit doesn't actually starts happening until the last half. Out of IBO's 50 episodes I would say only 7 episodes were good while the rest ranged from subpar to outright bad it doesn't help that the animation was shit throughout. The fact that it took you this long to realize there was something wrong with the writing makes you a complete fucking idiot.

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>>159065353
And I could say that you're a retard for thinking it's bad in general. But the fact of the matter is that it was an awesome show that didn't need action in your face all the time to be enjoyable. The politics of the show WAS interesting and the pacing of the show felt proper. The first season ended well. They had a mission and they saw it through, despite all the odds against them because that was their only option to make something out of themselves and try to lead into full lives. It's the premise of the show.
Plenty of shit went down during their escort mission and the battles were great.
Like I said the only time it gets really bad is when they fuck up all their pacing near the ending of S2. Everything before that had plenty of things keeping you interested and asking "what happens next?" It's a good ride until the end.

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>>159065591
>And I could say that you're a retard for thinking it's bad in genera
It is and given your LACK of retort I don't think you can prove otherwise.
>But the fact of the matter is that it was an awesome show that didn't need action in your face all the time to be enjoyable.
If only it did because it would distract me over how boring and unengaging the plot and characters are.
>The politics of the show WAS interesting
This probably has the most least interesting politics in any Gundam show and hat's saying a lot given how other Gundam series handled polotics

>and the pacing of the show felt proper.
No it was just bad. Even people who like this shit would say you're full of it.

> The first season ended well.
Not really, it felt like a really extended filler episode where they stretched it out to the point where you lost interest and they even faked you out expecting character death in those most hilarious way which all the more makes it pointless when all those same characters end up dying in the second season thus invalidating the existence of the first.
> the battles were great.
I'll never get tired of posting this webm because it shuts up everyone who still defends this show.

>>159065591
>Like I said the only time it gets really bad is when they fuck up all their pacing near the ending of S2. Everything before that had plenty of things keeping you interested and asking "what happens next?" It's a good ride until the end.
Nope and you're forever be wrong for believing this. Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean its not a stupid one.

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>The villains won in the end.
fuck this shit show

>>159066133
Tekkadan is the villian...Oh, and Macky too.

>>159066133
And as a bonus: after the vilains won they went and did what the good guys wanted to do in the first place: make Mars independant and outlaw human debris.

>>159066133
Actually, everyone won in the end, they just all died.

>>159066050
Yeah this is just a whole lot of shit opinion being thrown at me. You're not even typing real arguments.

Also, I don't get what's wrong with the webm.

>>159066293
>NO U: The post
Yeah I'll take this as a concession

>>159066293
>Gets BTFO
>N-n-n-n-no U
Kek

>Also, I don't get what's wrong with the webm.
It helps to open your eyes anon

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>>159066380
>>159066404
>NO U
>concession
I'll take this as, you have autism. Also, stop samefagging

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>>159066133
They might have been the atagonists but they were definitely not the villains

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>>159066431
Nah, more than one person thinks you're a fucking idiot anon. Just because we like making fun of you for having shit taste doesn't mean you need to cry about it.

>>159066497
>6 posters,
>easily identifiable posting format.
>time between post
k samefag

>>159066470
>Using illegal WMD
>Manipulating the media to hide this fact
>Was the cause of everything bad that happened in the show
>New post series interview states that Rustal would have been sentenced for his crimes if the media blowout was ever discovered

Nope they were definitely the villains, I mean the show didn't actually try to hide that

>>159066541
>>159066431
>everyone who disagrees with me is a samefag
Yeah...good luck with that

>>159066614
No, just samefags are samefags, that's all there is too it.

Why was the staff obsessed with a bad ending? I remember reading they would have preferred if no tekkadan members survived. It's like they wanted to surpass "kill em' all Tomino" with named character deaths.

>>159065142
>>159065158
I loved following Tekkadan and it was painful to see the staff undo everything they did in the last moment. Fuck Nagai.

>>159066806
>Why was the staff obsessed with a bad ending?
Nagai wanted to be edgy and all Okada cared about was that her husbando made it out alive.

>It's like they wanted to surpass "kill em' all Tomino" with named character deaths.
Too bad they failed spectacularly

>>159066133
I want a Yoko Taro written Gundam, it would the Turn A of the 21st century.

>>159066817
>>159066806
This is partly how I felt too. When it came to the named members dying, at first I was okay with that, but when Orga died I had to question who's gonna be left. Then when they took away Akihiro and Mika,
I felt so lost on the show. Characters they introduced S2 characters that died, which was okay because I believed it was safe to assume they were wood for the fire. I didn't bother getting really attached to them, but when so many ended up dying and then they also decided to keep going with that 'fuel for the fire' mindset it felt terrible. Many of the characters should live and the mains should die or the mains live and many other characters die is how it should be. IBOs just didn't get the memo.

>>159066817
>I loved following Tekkadan
You loved following full poorly developed characters?

>>159067077
>full
>poorly developed

>>159064939
But everyone achieved their goals. Space rats secured a future for their family. Macky proved that might makes right by getting outmighted. Space whores got free from their pimp daddy.

If anything s1 ending was bullshit with Tekkadan getting away scot-free after so much destruction they caused on Earth.

>>159064939
>It was so good for an entire 44 episodes.
You're an absolute moron that didn't understand the way the show was going. The fucking said how it was going to go down in episode 26.
If you're going to be mad at something be mad at yourself for being too stupid to see how this show was going to end. IBO is a good story that pissed people off because they expected things to go differently when in reality it had been set up to end this way from the beginning.
Feel bad.

>>159067271
But the problem wasn't that it was going to end poorly. The problem is how poorly done it was. I expected Mika to die the entire time, but honestly the way it all panned out was shit. Everyone saw a tragedy coming, but no one thought they could shit the bed so bad.
How hard could it be to give the few characters you put time into a cool or meaningful death.
The pimp had arguable the best death in the show, which is sad, but it was mid season too, so you waited for the better ones to come along, which they didn't.

>>159067271
>IBO is a good story

>>159067149
Yes that's exactly what I said but since you only know greentext as a response I expected no less.
>>159067271
No its a shitty story that most people dropped halfway into the first season that only pissed off retards who stayed for whatever reason.

>>159067883
So that mean you haven't watched the whole thing?
You're shitposting.

>>159065158
>>159065353
>>159065591
>>159066133
>>159066431
>>159067837
don't post non-/a/ pictures on /a/
go back to your shitholes

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>>159067960
I'll post whatever the fuck I want. You got a problem, bitch?

>>159064939
>It was so good for an entire 44 episodes

>>159066806
It makes sense. Do you really expect a group of stupid child soldiers to end up being the rulers of the universe? Don't get it twisted I am and forever will be a Tekkadan supported but if they would have won it would have been the biggest asspull in gundam history.

Also director Nagai was just a weirdo who's self insert was Ein from S1 of IBO. In radio interviews and magazine interviews he said everyone on Tekkadans side was pure evil and they deserved to be judged and punished for being horrible pieces of shit. He never comments on all the dirty shit Gjallarhorn did as well and the fact that the world is shit due to gjallarhorns failing. It's obvious he and the rest of the writing team had a falling out and he's taking it out in interviews. He also said Gaelio wasn't interested in committing to Julieta even tho Mari okada said that they did end up together but that's beside the point.

>>159068579
>Do you really expect a group of stupid child soldiers to end up being the rulers of the universe?
First, it was only about Mars. Second, Kudelia was supposed to take over. They wanted to fuck off and live their lives in peace, they never intended to actually rule over Mars. There's a reason why Kudelia was completely written off in S2. How otherwise would Tekkadan get into such deep shit if Kudelia offered help when they needed it after fedora died? Literally the only reason why everything went to shit for them was because they threw their lot in with McGillis. And McGillis, which is also confirmed recent interview info, was deliberately dumbed down and made into an idiot to facilitate his losing to team Rustal/Gaelio while taking Tekkadan with him. Even though bringing Tekkadan down was their initial intention they literally had no idea how to do it 40 episodes into the freaking show so they ad hoc made everyone into suicidal retards marching into their deaths. Only Okada openly admits they shit the bed. She was the only one who wanted a happy end for Tekk so she doesn't feel obligated to defend Nagai's retardation.

>>159069025
We can agree that Nagai is indeed retarded.

>>159066993
Shino was the real tragedy there. Poor Yamagi.

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>>159064939
Orga's death was the most satisfying moment of the second season.

He's the one that started all of this. If it wasn't for him, Tekkadan would be the DHL of space. Everyone would be living comfy, rich lives. But no, he had to make a deal with a clearly delusional man to become the king of mars. As a result, everyone he cared about was either killed or forced into hiding.

>>159071412
t. Nagai

>>159071412
>Orga's death was the most satisfying moment of the second season

Go to bed Bizarro.

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>>159071498
Orga's death became a meme in Japan so Nagai, albeit ironically, got what he wanted.

>>159071664
I like the fidget spinner one

>>159069256
>In radio interviews and magazine interviews he said everyone on Tekkadans side was pure evil and they deserved to be judged and punished for being horrible pieces of shit.
I think Nagai is just having some sort of dissociation from the finished product so when he's referring to Tekkadan in the interviews what he's actually referring to is the Tekkadan that lives in his head, not the actual Tekkadan seen in the show. The guy is just really far up his own ass when it comes to his "vision" and still can't deal with the fact that the show which aired on TV differs from it so vastly. Mostly due to him giving Okada free range in writing the script and never bothering to check if it matches his "vision.".

The ending was the only good thing from this shitshow.

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>>159064939
>Old age and treachery will always beat youth and exuberance.

Deinsleifs were a mistake.

>>159072911
I think it would've been more acceptable if they gave the audience knowledge of their existence and how important it is to not use one. Having them appear out of nowhere, then immediately putting them into a negative light was a bad decision. It should've been 'Terribly powerful weapon, desperate enough to use such weapon. use of weapon causes conflict, weapon becomes the bane' instead we got 'Find weapon, use it, everyone's bane'.
So shitty.

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>>159072644
*Gaelio and McGillis were the only good thing from this shitshow.

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>>159073179
*Shino and Yamagi were the only good thing in this shitshow.
Fixed that for you my fujo friend. Gealio and Macky were just the regular fujoshit forage of the standard, hilariously overdramatic fare.

Ein did nothing wrong

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>>159072234
Post it.

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>>159073361
I never liked Shino and Yamagi. Too boring for me. Sorry friend but I'll take the typical ambiguously gay rivalry/friendship/revenge plot, and GaliEin too, over this particular brand of bland canon homo any day.

>>159073431
No one did anything. Except the fuckers that made the MAs and caused the universe to turn to shit.

>>159066050
>>159066431
>Engineering a fake rebellion on one of the sides and then using it as a excuse to massacre the rebellion and civilians alike
>not villians

>>159066133
>villains
it's been months and people still fail to understand a show as unsubtle as IBO

this board is hopeless

>>159074032
explain it then fuker

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>>159073638
Shino/Yamagi was neither bland nor boring. It was a natural and wholesome relationship of two guys who casually wanted to be together, brillaint in its simplicity. And in these qualities a completely refreshing and unique experience. But like I said, you keep on consuming your commoner pasture.

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>>159074125
Sorry, I feed on suffering. Simple pleasures are just not my thing.

So is IBO good or not? I keep hearing 'its shit' and 'its good'.

>>159074272
ibo has a lot of problems but it's not bad
it also depends on what you expect and if you pay attention

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>>159074272
It's shit but worth watching for best boy.

>>159074272
It's boring

>>159074272
Good right until you reach the last 6-7 episodes where it devolves into shit.

>>159074420
>staff goes and admitts his presence made the show worse
Gaeliofags are a laughing stock.

>>159074435
Kind of like the new Samurai Jack season? Alright.

The creators couldn't decide which should be the desired result.
In the very beginning I hoped that they're gonna make TV series about struggle for independence, fight against social organization that has allowed the existence of child mercenaries. Maybe they would add a conflict between beliefs and pragmatism. Something like Code Geass or maybe even Dougram.
In the end I've got boring show with lots of undeveloped characters, idiotic story, empty episodes that contribute nothing neither for the story, nor for character development. I couldn't make myself finish the second season.

>>159074272
Shit. Better rewatch Geass or something ancient like Votoms

>>159074001
See
>>159074001
It is a fact that the antagonist side was shown doing unsavory things like killing civilians and using outlaws WMD then framing on it on the protagonist. While the orphans and char were shown to be fighting for good causes like the liberation of mars and children from colonial enslavement.

>>159064939
I enjoyed this show, the one thing I can majorly say is that most mobile suits were underused. Ryusei-Gay, Muh Bael, Vidar etc.

>>159074272
Do you like shipfaggotery and edge? You'll probably like it.
It has chink-tier animation at times.
Sad attempt at politics.
Pacing of an amateur writer.
Characters that only exist so you can feel sorry for.

So if the writing and visuals are shit, why watch it?

>>159065353
>>159067837
Remember to report this shitty /co/ fag, he likes samefagging in these threads and his images don't belong on this board.

>>159074554
>conflict between beliefs and pragmatism. Something like Code Geass or maybe even Dougram.

What the fuck are you even on about?

With IBO, Nagai was obviously trying to subvert/deconstruct Gundam. Most major theme being how adults are right, kids are wrong.

He failed badly at it though.

"I can't live without fighting"

I love IBO

>>159074885
>What the fuck are you even on about?
The very first episodes, when they were building the world for the story. There was massive political protest, images of social issues such as drug addiction and poverty among teen children, etc.
So I expected that the story would be about struggle between those who are suffering and those who benefit from the system in general.
>With IBO, Nagai was obviously trying to subvert/deconstruct Gundam
What for?

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>>159074269
Shino/Yamagi is largely suffering though. The kind eligible to be taken seriously unlike the laughably grotesque melodrama gali ended up in on both sides. Great stuff from every angle.

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IBO was sex

>>159075158
>What for?

Gunota are obsessed with trying to create the best Gundam ever and outdo Tomino.

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>yfw they still haven't made a garm rodi kit

The biggest mistake of IBO was trying to jutify Gjallhorn. The second mistake was reducing Kudelia's role in Season 2 because of the fans hating her. If she had a bigger role, things would have probably played out better for Tekkedan.

Writers went out of the way to show that Gjallhorn was corrupt and responsible for the world being a mess.

I would have had less of a problem with the ending if the writers had shown throughout the season that Rustal wanted reform. The man spends the whole season being corrupt and then the writers expect fans to believe he was secretly a reformer?

>>159065142
You really are insecure aren't you?