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Please keep the shit that's been happening last thread in that thread
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Every thread until Crusch-sama gets her memories back.
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>>159031118
Hahahahaha, right, riiiiight.
No worries, Remfags are easy to bait anyway.
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>>159030978
Is there even anything to talk about?
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We should really take a break from these threads.
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>>159032336
Maybe just wait till Summary continues. No threads just to wait for the LN comparison doc update
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>>159032272
No, the translators are too busy picking crusty shit off their ass.
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>>159032272
fuck Carmilla, kill Emilia, marry Ram.
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>>159032451
>just to wait for the LN comparison doc update
no one gives a shit
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>>159034329
Can't think of anything else that'd relatively soon.
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>>159034329
>comparison doc
>make an entire thread about it
Re:Underzero fanbase thinks they're hot shit.
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gay
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Rem is shit, literally self-insert for repressed homo virgins
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Reminder that Ram will chew Subaru out
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Why did we make a new thread? All discussion is going to get shat up by ESL anyways so what's the point?
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>>159038509
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>>159038765
Entertain the ESL enough and he'll go away.
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When Rem wakes up
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>>159030978

I thought the image was from ef at first.
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>>159038930
I want to fuck Ram
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Would you mamoru her smile, /a/?
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>>159036952
t. Beta shitmilia mongoloid who unironically plays SAO.
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>>159040457
That looks so platonic.
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>>159030978
I thought the pacing was slow and when people forgot who Rem was it made me feel like it was gonna slow down even more so i dropped the show. Does it get better after that point? Should I keep watching?
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>>159041791
Non-stop death loop is right after it.
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subaru is hungry
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>>159043747
NO.
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>>159041125
Her smile is now in Ley's good hands so I'm not worried about that.
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Has there been a NTR arc yet where he needs to stop Emilia from getting pumped full of some chad's cum, and kills himself every time he fails?
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>>159043747
>filename
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>>159043747
what the fuck
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>>159045746
It ends in a twist of the "crying in a corner while masturbating", where his latest save point is changed to the moment he impregnates Rem.
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>>159040457
Constant baby making awaits for these two.
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>>159048522
he met gluttony
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>>159030978
I swear that's the most edited OP of all time.
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>>159048657
>Constant cock blocking awaits for these two.
ftfy.
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>>159038509
>>159038930
Stop cucking REM

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
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>>159048899
>Rem gets cucked hard but can't do shit because that's her own sister.
Oh boy, I will feel so bad for her if that happens.
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>>159048899
There's a story behind that picture. They're just demonstrating the concept behind some Ram blankets. Ram loses her smile in the next picture.
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>>159048899
I'd have a fucking heart attack if the new amnesiac Subaru fell for Ram.
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>>159045638
Kys
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>>159050716
It wouldn't be impossible for Subaru to find a determined but also emotionally fragile Ram endearing and adorable. So one-night stand when?
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>>159050716
But the threesome potential.
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>>159052018
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>>159038765
Nice boogieman, but Remfags shit up the threads just as much. Nobody cares.
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>>159052338
t. Esl kun
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>>159032452
Translator here, can confirm. I have now cleaned half of my ass but I feel another round of extensive diarrhea on its way in probably a little less than 20 minutes. I'm gonna need some more time.
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>>159045746
I'd love some NTR doujins where Rem is evil and brews a plot to torture and mindbreak Emilia. But it seems like everyone prefers vanilla and whatnots so there aren't many NTR doujins at the moment. Oh well.
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>>159051341
I feel like she'd beat him if he tried anything.
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>>159054142
Has Ram ever done such thing to Barusu?
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>>159054559
Hnnnnnnggggggg
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>>159052967
I'm more of a fan of Chad princes that Emilia needs to fuck because muh bloodlines.
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>>159030978
Insert more Re:Zero characters into ef openings.
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I really hope summary anon is okay
I need the next chapter
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>>159054559
Pretty sure, yes.
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>>159030978
Yuu didn't deserve his suffering
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>>159055582
What did she do and when did it happen?
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>>159055739
Doesn't she fuck the pierrot nigger at nights?
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>>159055774
That's a huge misunderstanding. She simply stops by his room to receive a treatment and get some mana from him. Nothing more.
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>>159030978
>Shooping Subaru over Yuu
Yuu didn't deserve any of this shit, I wish I could unsee this picture.
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Why is the third arc so shit?
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>>159055889
Whadda fugin cop-out.
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Every thread until Rem wakes up.
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>>159055739
There was that time Subaru pulled Rem into his bed in his sleep, and Ram caught them that way. Ram also kicks him around a bit for other reasons.
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>>159050716
Chestpainanon?
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>>159056358
Isn't Ram just a tsundere? She'll react differently and go doki doki if Subaru actually makes a move on her.
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>>159056594
It's kind of obvious that her attitude towards Barusu is primarily shaped by how she feels about his and Rem's relationship. Before Rem well in love with Barusu, Ram treated him exactly the same way she treats everyone else.
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>>159041163
Like clockwork
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https://youtu.be/xuDp1jq7VFg


lee zero
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>>159056594
she is tsundere but not romantically
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>>159056594
Sister-in-law tsundere more than love interest tsundere.
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>>159056018
He is feeding you lies
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>>159058640
Megumin's VA actually made me like Emilia more the second time I watched Re: Zero.
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>>159058640
konosuba
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>>159058640
subaru&ram
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>>159057777
https://youtu.be/Lf_AK4H4328
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>>159058819
bete&emilia
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>>159057777
CHING CHONG DING DING DONG
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https://youtu.be/ZNXnZhngzpk


desu is kawaii
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>>159059171
You have done well to bring this here.
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>>159059171
Fucking beautiful
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>>159059171
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>>159043747
>>159048717
It was his finger not his whole fucking arm
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>>159056031
Eventually
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>>159062765
I want that to be endgame because it is interesting
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Who is Satella?
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>>159062888
She's the future, Emilia!
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Since you insist on keeping the thread alive, let me post some Ferri.
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>>159062904
Why is this post deleted and a new post arise here >>159062941
Is this the work of the witch?
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FERRI IS CUTE!!!
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>>159062981
that post is from an IF in which I suck at typing
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FERRI
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PURE
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>>159062954
>>159063003
>>159063085
>>159063145
Are you the catfag who tried to draw stuff, or the other catfag?
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>>159063204

When will you understand that I'm the only Ferribro here.

Ferri is a kind person.
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>>159063204

Hey Petebro, can you link the site where you got all those Petes?
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>>159063261
He's a cunt
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>>159063306
Forgot where I got them. I'll upload them on mega.


https://mega.nz/#!tN9WRRDC!Wjz6OnGurGHdYif_JZFTxwRo2C5b-lyKnwluiksiHB8
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>>159063369

Thank you, Petebro
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>>159048899
>>159050716
Nee-sama takes what she wants.
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Since you insist on keeping the thread alive, let me post some Ferri.
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Ferri is so cute
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>>159058680
Is he?
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>>159063306
I like how clearly disgusted Rem is to be in her position.
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>>159065847
I read this and I couldn't fap to it
The thought of Roswaal fucking Emilia is just too disturbing
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>>159066914

Rem is so ugly that she fears the camera.
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>>159056855
>>159058344
>>159058557
But now that Rem's gone and both Barusu and Ram no longer remember her, wouldn't the dynamics between them change? What if Ram's affection for Barusu would get stronger like Petra's also does due to how the history's rewritten? Ram might remember Barusu as the one that tried very hard to celebrate her birthday and to convince everyone to give her a day off or something.
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>>159068485
Well it worked like all of Ram's affection for Rem went directly to the clown cock so she was even more devoted to the clown cannon then pre-Rem erasure.
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>>159068352
Hits too close to home, eh? I liked the pegging part.
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>>159030978

Why he never fuck the blue maid?
Why he dont reset the time, fuck the pink-haired maid and reset again?
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>>159068925
>Why he never fuck the blue maid?
He wants to be things like the plot get in the way
>Why he dont reset the time, fuck the pink-haired maid and reset again?
It literally doesn't work like that
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>>159068475
That's not a "fear of the camera" face. That's a "why is this thing touching me" face.
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>>159068990
>It literally doesn't work like that
Can't just kill himself?
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Ohayou, Jard-kun desu. It's my birthday so I figured I'd stop by. Nobody came and I dropped my cake, but everything's daijoubu because I get to spend the day with my wife and all of you guys. Emilia also says hi.
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>>159069317
When he killed himself to try to go back and save Rem from being erased he reset to the moment right before killing himself, holding the knife in his hands. The reset points are set be a third party.
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>>159069317
What makes you think he could fuck Ram?
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>>159069285

No, it's a "Rem fearing camera face".
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>>159070238
If Felix was real I would pump so many fucking .45 ACP rounds into his body you wouldn't even recognize his body
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>>159070282

Ferri can heal himself
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>>159070282
He'd revive.
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>>159069317
Why would you try and fuck you crazy girlfriend's sister?
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>>159070457

Ferri can do that too
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>>159068925
The only thing that is getting in the way from fucking Rem is that her soul got eaten. If it weren't like that:

>[Rem: ──? Subaru-kun, what’s wrong?]
>[Subaru: I just got lost in my thoughts for a little bit. I know I said that I wanted to show off as we walk, but I just remembered that I’m the type that wants to have everything to himself. I want to enjoy it at home.]
>[Rem: I─It’s a borrowed kimono, we can’t do naughty things, you know……?]
>[Subaru: But what if it’s just for a little?]
>[Rem: Oh……i─if it’s just a little……]

Damn horny teens
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>>159070238
Now she just looks like she's forcing a smile, and still doesn't want to be there.

Anyhow, decided to briefly check out 2ch. Some discussion about 50% of Otto scenes being cut, which seems to bother them a bit if they've still been bringing it up. Some unrelated comment about fans of the original work grumbling about the anime changing things for the worse. Some discussion of how a Season 2 would work, considering where Season 1 ended off. Someone seems to have settled on the idea that Rem had a bit of the Lust Factor poured into her. Comment on Re:Zero selling well in America. Discussion of Rem's fighting strength and how useful she'd actually be if she woke up.

Really nothing special.
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>>159070457
Good, so I can shoot at it again
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>>159070587
>50% of Otto scenes being cut
50% of all of Otto's scenes being cut or they are talking about half of his scenes?

Either way I'm still angry they are cutting Otto.
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>>159070587

Of course she is forcing a smile and doesn't want to be there, she fears the camera.
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>>159070585
She's a magical comatose, not phased out of existence.
You can fuck someone in a magical comatose just like you can fuck an onahole.
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>>159059171
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>>159070698
Allegedly Subaru is cosndierate enough to Rem to not do that
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>>159070075
Could he rape her in a way where she kills him immediately once she's freed?
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>>159070801
Whats wrong with you
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>>159070675
Not sure yet if everyone there has actually read it yet, but there's definitely some bit of discussion over whether they like the change there or not.
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>>159070832
I'm on an anime message board at 2:00 pm on a weekday. What do you think?
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The witch thing is just future Emilia playing nonlinear 4d chess right?
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>>159070587
>Discussion of Rem's fighting strength and how useful she'd actually be if she woke up.
Potato is weak so she won't be useful at all. Emilia is OP now so everyone should just let her do all the fighting and avoid getting in her way.
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>>159071304
>Potato is weak so she won't be useful at all.
Even Otto fucking fights, she'll find a way to help
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>>159071304
Subaru will use anything he can to have everyone survive.
Then again, he might have some issues with letting Rem do anything because of her previous situation.
It's pretty easy to think "Last time I let Rem do things and she went comatose for 10 years, lol. Like fuck I'll let that happen again.".
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Summaryanon I will sacrifice a goat to Satan if you come back soon enough
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>>159071511
I'll sacrifice Rem.
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>>159070883
Discussion towards the end of the thread is about Rem and Ram's breasts, and if it's connected to having a horn. Possibilities of it recovering after an extensive stay in the Green Room were joked about.
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>>159071606
How many posters are in their threads?
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>>159069755
Hapy birthday jaddo-kun
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>>159071545
FUCK OFF CLOWN
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>>159071672
I didn't check. The threads generally seem to be even slower than our own, so I'm actually wondering if there might be more discussion somewhere else.

Oh, and they seem annoyed Tappei isn't updating more.
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>>159072385
Do they have annoying posters like our Catfag, ESL, Emiliafags, etc?
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>>159072548
Remfags, etc.?
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>>159072822
Sure
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>>159072548
Not as far as I can tell. Discussion seems a bit different there. Like they're a bit more bored. That kind of faggotry may be more common elsewhere, since I saw it in the comment section of that poll, but I'm not sure where to find it.
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FERRI IS CRUSCH-SAMA'S CUDDLY CATNUGGET
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>>159073247
And Subaru's lewd plush.
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>>159073269
Nice work
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>>159071511
Isn't it better to wait for yenpress?
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>>159073366

You wouldn't happen to be one of those "Honkers"?
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>>159073269
It's back
Fucked up the pages though
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We've went through so many tribulations together, Remfags.
But remember this, this release will not stop the ESL, he will be here.
Forever.
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>>159073269
I thought you were dead
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>>159073269
Thank you for your service
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>>159073457
OOPS
https://mega.nz/#!BI10gQqJ!cLvdxeHKHSadL2P0tMGetL2pVyyeV5BaZWEOUjr87Gc
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>>159073457
Whoa, that's a best girl pic you just posted there.
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Who gave Subaru the Return from Death?
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>>159073429
I have no idea what a Honker is.
Please enlighten me.
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>>159073546
Too bad the WN is biased towards Rem, I hope Tappei and the team of editors fix that.
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>>159073587
Witch of Envy or Satella
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>>159073546
Yeah, HaruSabin is great.
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>>159073587
Satella, and the reset points seem to be related to Emilia and the king's selection
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>Emilia: “Subaru, stop bullying younger kids. I'm so sorry, Joshua-kun. Subaru's... he can be like
that.”
Emilia just burned poor Joshua all by mistake.
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>>159073650
>>159073627
If Satella is so gud, how can Reinhard stalemate her on QA.
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>>159073735
Reinhard is literally one of the most OP characters ever. He cannot lose.
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>>159073735
Reinhard can potentially beat the Od Laguna.
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>>159073269
Based summarry anon. I assume your presence is signal that the thresd is safe for chapter discussions yes?
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>Subaru: “Leave pressuring them to me, Emilia-tan. I'll be right on them whether it's Anastasia-san or Julius. There's this chatty witch I know who's taught me all about people dodging important topics in conversation.”
>Emilia: “I'm not sure if that's something to brag about...”
Cute

>>159073735
Because Reinhardt is literally God, he can only lose in anything if he wants to
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>>159073599

Nothing
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>>159073269
My fix is fixed
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>>159073813
Hahahaha.
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>>159073821
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>>159073269
>Ram is still an advocate for Roswaal, but is less hesitant to insist upon her own desires now.
>Roswaal seems to be accepting it without thinking it strange. Their relationship of one-sided dependency looks to have changed. The dependant atmosphere around them is gone, and it feels like they actually understand each
other now.
Fuck my Julius x Ram headcanon.
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>>159073900
I havent seem Him today so
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>>159073269
Now I have to sacrifice a goat, great
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>>159073955
We'll see how that goes.
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>>159036952
The truth at last
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>>159073939
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Stay strong, Crusch-sama. When this memory loss bullshit is over, stop the candidacy shit, marry Ferri and live a happy life.
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>>159059171
about rezero radio
does it still air or it went out along with the anime all those months ago
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Otto and Emilia get along well enough I guess. Didn't know he actually taught her.
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>>159074473
They should just make Otto the king.
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>>159074598
The dragon didn't choose that nigga.
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>>159074696
dragon's a dumbass
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>>159074696
Yeah, but just look at how the accomplishments of the different Candidates are described. Felt knows how to find people with talent, so she's not in Reinhard's shadow anymore. Priscilla definitely isn't a Vollachian agent who plans on uniting the two empires, and so on. On the other hand, Emilia's position is based on having Subaru's support. Her primary addition to the faction is still what she said it was in the beginning. She has a lot of fighting power.

So. Otto should be King.
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>>159074884
>Priscilla definitely isn't a Vollachian agent who plans on uniting the two empires, and so on.
Oh, and I'm pointing this out because Priscilla is literally from Vollachia, and Arc 7 is going to involve foreign agents interfering with the election. Arc 7 being her and Al's Arc. There's also the pattern where the most competent candidate currently around gets sabotaged by one means or another.

Crusch, the top candidate, loses her memories and motives and falls from favor. Anastasia is presently possessed, and we don't know if that can be fixed yet. Something will probably come of that, where her candidacy takes a solid hit.

Popular candidate #3 would therefore be Priscilla, so she's next on the list.
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>When wild dogs or witchbeasts appear on the road, foolishly trying to attack the carriage,
>Garfiel: “Perfect. Been wantin' t'smack some critters around.”
>Garfiel violently tears through the group, scaring away the instigating animals. His perfect work as a bodyguard actually makes the poor witchbeasts sympathetic.
Rem, on the other hand,...
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>>159075222
>Rem, on the other hand,...
Was fighting countless mabeasts for hours, but somehow scaring away a random pack is the same thing
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>>159075291
I think you're missing the point. She was fighting witchbeasts loyal to Meili and following her orders. There's a difference between random thugs and trained soldiers.
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>>159075291
He could probably manage too honestly. Not sure if he's actually stronger than horny Rem though.
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>>159074884
>>159074719
>On the other hand, Emilia's position is based on having Subaru's support. Her primary addition to the faction is still what she said it was in the beginning. She has a lot of fighting power.
>Subaru's support
I don't think you're noticing this, but it's easy to see. The fact that she gets the support of Subaru, which is the dude that has the support of the witch through rewinding time (OR hopping dimensions), and that this dude is surrounding her with people that genuinely want to help her, might just be what the dragon chose her for.
She, as a being, has the potential to become great, just like every other candidate.
That's my opinion on the matter of the dragon choosing them, it's based on potential and the possibility to use this potential.
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>>159075389
Garfiel is definitely stronger than Rem even with horn
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>>159075442
Even with her lower horn?
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>>159075482
Of course not. You can't beat the lower horn.
>>159075400
>I don't think you're noticing this, but it's easy to see.
Nah, I noticed that just fine. It's just that at present, it's mostly still Subaru's work and accomplishments that make Emilia's faction look appealing.
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>>159075442
So Rem is in the top 5 weakest people in Roswaal's manor?
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>>159075627
She's midrank.
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>>159075442
>definitely
Ram was punching him around, and Rem is stronger than her and doesn't even have the stamina problem
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>>159075627
Emilia faction is full of powerhouses for some reason (roswaal, horn ram, puck, emilia, garfiel, juiced up beatrice, subaru isn't a powerhouse but is stupidly broken)

>>159075690
Ram was punching him in onimode
Ram's oni mode is literal god tier
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>>159075613
Petra, Otto, Ram, Frederica, Meili(?)
>>159075690
Cause tiger form is dumb, even if it's stronger
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>>159030978
Don't mind me, I just came here to laugh at this image.
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>>159075717
>Ram's oni mode is literal god tier
Ram can't access anywhere near her original strength. It was answered in a Q&A that even in ideal conditions, Rem is more powerful than hornless Ram.
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>>159075717
Hornless Ram's Onimode is still below Rem
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>>159075400
I don't trust anything that has and uses any variation of the gospel and that includes the dragon stone. I don't believe he's just benevolently helping Lugnica either. Dragons are incomprehensible fucks usually.

So, the reasons these 5 were chosen by the Dragon, who could know.
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>>159075748
meant for >>159075627
Actually Lewes and Anne-Rose probably too, not too sure about Clind
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>>159075613
>Nah, I noticed that just fine
If you did, why are you still answering me by repeating the same shit I've already answered?
>It's just that at present, it's mostly still Subaru's work and accomplishments that make Emilia's faction look appealing.
It doesn't really matter who's doing the work, the fact that there are people doing the work FOR Emilia (and they're all powerhouses to boot) is already something incredibly appealing about her.
Hell, these powerhouses are mostly helping her with good intentions (even those that didn't previously) and would make for great advisors if say, Emilia wins prematurely (but this won't happen).

She's basically all the other rulers combined because of Subaru, but Subaru is helping her because she is Emilia.
>>159075820
Yet they're all capable and would lead a country properly if given the opportunity.
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>>159076009
>but Subaru is helping her because she is Emilia.
sad
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>>159073269
My man
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>>159076048
?
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>>159075820
>So, the reasons these 5 were chosen by the Dragon, who could know.
Five candidates, five active Sins in the Witch Cult. Overlapping, but not quite matching.

Crusch is Sloth, Felt is Wrath, Priscilla is Pride, and Anastasia is Greed. Emilia is an obvious stand-in for Envy.

I don't think it's that hard to guess what the Dragon might want them for. We just need to locate Envy and Pride for the Bishops, which are probably Subaru and Al, and the girls who would represent Lust and Gluttony.
>>159076009
>If you did, why are you still answering me by repeating the same shit I've already answered?
Because it literally has nothing to do with my point. Emilia is presently still stuck in the shadow of those around her. What she brings to the table is mostly an autist with a hardon for her. She'll likely grow out of that position, but a point was made that even Felt was able to already extricate herself from Reinhard's shadow.
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>>159073818
Didn't "win" Subaru in that one IF against him?
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>>159076173
It seems like he killed Reinhard's friends and family.
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>>159076215
Wow rude
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>>159073418
anon... yen press is at the beginning of arc 3..... and it takes them months to translate 1 volume i don't think they will catch up to where we're at in the web novel any time in the next 5 years.
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>>159076157
>Emilia is presently still stuck in the shadow of those around her.
You're a fucking retard, aren't you?
>What she brings to the table is mostly an autist with a hardon for her.
That has the power to rewind time and does so to help her too.
That autist with a hardon for her brought her several powerhouses under her too.
That autist with a hardon that also made other factions help him and thus, her too.
>but a point was made that even Felt was able to already extricate herself from Reinhard's shadow.
Because Reinhard is actually relevant to the nobility and the knights, Subaru isn't.
That's why the point was made, if she didn't, everyone would look at her as if she was just coddled and pushed from behind by Reinhard.
Emilia isn't under anyone's shadow from the perspective of everyone else, Subaru's achievements are under her name, because Subaru at least understand's that much about politics.
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>>159076509
>You're a fucking retard, aren't you?
No, I think I just have a slightly different perspective than you do. Emilia's faction is being recognized for the things Subaru's done for her, largely unprompted, and not for her own personal actions. That's all.
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>>159076705
No, it's clear that you're slightly retarded. We're talking about a world in which luck can be a blessing given to you by some divine being.
If everything aligns every time for her, despite her not doing anything, that makes her extraordinary and fit to be ruler in such a world.

It doesn't matter if it's the achievements of a million other people, as long as they do it for her and it is recognized in that way or attributed to her.
If the dragon did pick these people based on potential, this is what she can currently do, and because of this, she will be able to actuate her future potential too (otherwise she usually dies a horrible death without Subaru's help).
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>>159076173
He tried over a thousand loops but nothing worked, so he just burned Lugnica to the ground instead. To prove Reinhard was incapable of stopping that
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>>159076999
>We're talking about a world in which luck can be a blessing given to you by some divine being.
But it isn't. Priscilla only has one Blessing, the one which makes her stronger during the day. The truth of the matter is that she's actually just a cunning opportunist.
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>>159077263
>The truth of the matter is that she's actually just a cunning opportunist.
nah, she's an arrogant idiot that had everything going for her, either by Al arranging things behind the scenes (that sometimes indeed happened) and/or some other effect (Pandora?)
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>>159077580
Nah. She acts like an arrogant idiot, when the truth is that she's just arrogant. Do you think a Vollachian agent would have been able to place herself so close to reaching the throne if she were stupid?
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>>159077675
you talk like she did anything
dragon literally drew her name in the priestess lottery
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>>159077742
And she arranged peace deals with Vollachia and managed her territory well enough to raise her popularity, all while building an image of having providence on her side.
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>>159077675
It seems you missed the betting game
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>>159077878
Rock paper scissors? That's not a luck based game.
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>>159074884
>Felt knows how to find people with talent, so she's not in Reinhard's shadow anymore

This not stated anywhere. The 3 stooges only get better because Reinhard trained them to their potential. And Rein discovered her , not the other way around.

>On the other hand, Emilia's position is based on having Subaru's support. Her primary addition to the faction is still what she said it was in the beginning. She has a lot of fighting power.

First the quote is wrong as that it's Subaru who is supporting, Second it was Subaru who said that and Third the context was best fighting strength in hostile Territory not leadership.

Also according to Subaru Otto is terrible at diplomacy is which extremely important for a ruler while Emilia's own political knowhow has increased over the past year. She's young able bodied person who is learning well from her surroundings (peers, books etc) as expected of any budding politician.

another reason saying Otto should be King is silly is if you take out the current decree then there is no reason to go fro him as the Sage Council reps who are right could better fill that role then.
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>>159077263
>But it isn't
Wow, missing the point this hard, unbelievable.
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>>159078040
>This not stated anywhere.
It's in the fucking chapter that was just posted here.
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>>159075442
He's also still currently the strongest person in the faction with Emilia behind him. Roswaal excluded from the comparison.
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>>159078069
I get your point, I just don't see how relevant it is to anything I've said. Presently, Emilia herself doesn't bring any useful leadership ability.
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Answer.
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>>159078489
i'd rather die than be healed by a faggot.
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>>159078635

Ferri is not a faggot.
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>>159078211
> Presently, Emilia herself doesn't bring any useful leadership ability.

Leadership ability is a vague and broaden term. Frankly if you can make decisive decisions that benefit you while not undermining your principals than are leader which Emilia does anyway.
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>>159030978
STOP STABBING SUBARU
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>>159078736
Emilia hasn't really made any big decisions yet either. All of the other leaders are known for what they, and not the people under them, have done. Emilia has had minimal input on anything regarding the decision-making of her own faction and its successes.
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>>159078211
> Emilia herself doesn't bring any useful leadership ability.
Except the fact that she somehow surrounded herself by several powerhouses that are literally changing history.
>>159078810
See >>159076999
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>>159078845
Which isn't really her own personal achievement, since she had minimal input on the matter. Most of it Subaru's doing, which he did indeed do for her, but she didn't even so much as ask for it. You could switch out literally anyone for Emilia, and the faction would be running more or less the same.

At this stage, Emilia contributes next to nothing to actually ruling.
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>>159079075
>but she didn't even so much as ask for it.
the public doesnt know that. you could literally have emilia take all the credit for that by just saying she commanded her knight subaru to do that. same thing with the sizable hare and literally anything else subaru might do.
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>>159079161
Have I been talking about what the public knows?
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>>159079214
we're talking about achievements, in the eyes of the public, everything the emilia faction does is emilia's achievement.
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>>159078938
The main characters of yuru yuri
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>>159078938
A trio that's actually been animated.
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>>159079255
And I was never talking about the eyes of the public. I'm saying Emilia herself does little to contribute to the appeal of the faction. Rather, she's probably dragging it down a little by being a Half-Elf.
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>>159079075
No, you can't switch anyone for Emilia, Subaru fell in love with her, after all.
She contributes by having Subaru bring together an army behind her.
You're not very smart.
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>>159079613
I don't really see how you're missing my point here. Having someone fall in love with you isn't a personal contribution.
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>>159079613
>Subaru fell in love with her, after all.
by throwing snowballs
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>>159078810
-Felt has yet to make big decisions either beyond entering the Selection.
-So has Priscilla.
-Anastasia's influence only extends in her home country.
-That only leaves Crusch who gave her credit to slaying the White Whale to the Emilia Faction in the end.

You are exaggerating her position compare to rest. This also a 3 year election cycle, racking up achievements isn't gonna be hard for Emilia Faction since their always participating in major events. For better or worse their magnetism to trouble. The important thing Emilia is involving herself in kind of political environment Roswaal only limitely let her in.
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hold up. is there a new season?
last i watched was season 1
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>>159078729
>blue oni's happy peaceful life idea
Thank god I'm not an anime MC because I would marry the demon right there. I'm such a fucking weak willed loser.
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>>159080448
And for that matter Suabru is now a representative of Emilia like all the Candidates Knights to their Masters. Anything he does is assumed to be her name both negative and positive. That's how politics of this kind of era worked.
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>>159080449
No, we are talking about WN and LN which is further a long than the anime.
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>>159080384
Even smile can be a valid reason why people fall in love so what you mean?
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>>159080648
I read ln's/wn's. Which one's better?
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>>159080384
That's not even the point worth addressing. Is Emilia responsible for Pandora attacking her village? Is she responsible for what happened with Petelgeuse, and his attempts to kill everyone? Is she responsible for everything burning in the Ayamatsu timeline?
>>159080448
Look, you're obviously not even talking about the same thing I am, but I'll bite. Felt apparently has an active role in managing her faction, as do all of the other leaders. Besides Emilia, who is apparently still too inexperienced to take much of an active role in that sort of thing.
>>159080572
Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
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>Oi, Meili. lend that doll to onii-san.
-kekekekek-
>no way! i definitely wont let you use it as a sandbag.
>heey meili. i wonder if you would you let me improve that doll by taking out its innards.
-it'll make it more lovely-
>no way, that kinda thing would only please elsa!

any and all corrections by anons who are better at japanese are accepted.
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>>159080672
I mean still she didn't do anything meaningful in the leading department, it's all Roswaal's and Subaru's work the forming and direction of the camp, with Emilia being an utterly passive member
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Actually I just forgot Emilia liberated the Sanctuary which was the part point of that incident in the first place and is recognized as her achievement. This got her support from the Half-bloods and improved the opinion of her from citizenry there.
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>>159079787
I've already explained this here:
>>159076999
You're still wrong, as I said.
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>>159081625
>Emilia has pointed Otto
that was Subaru's doing
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>>159080700
>Look, you're obviously not even talking about the same thing I am, but I'll bite. Felt apparently has an active role in managing her faction, as do all of the other leaders

All that maybe the case but none of that counts of big decisions just different organization structures. And we really don't know what Felt does at all or how Priscilla runs things.

But we do know Emilia has pointed Otto as Internal Affairs Officers which handles task to begin with. But Emilia has the final say anything that actually matters there.

>Besides Emilia, who is apparently still too inexperienced to take much of an active role in that sort of thing.

But she talking an active in shaping her Faction at least according to this chapter in no small way. Yes she is fledgling politician but otherwise Emilia pretty involved building her platform while leaving tasks to others she doesn't need to be heavily involved in. Choosing to meet with Anastasia in Priestella instead of going to the meeting of Western Lords is an example of decision making since choices will have long term effects be positive or negative on her position. And everyone is only going there because she made the decision to go.

It's same reason why governments or business have section heads handling the minute details while leaders shapes the overall direction by their final decisions.

>Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

It does, because the people are going choose who their best ruler is mainly based how much they contribute to society (achievements) and their ideas. The Candidates are supposed to work towards this the 3 year period. This what the people are going to be paying attention to.
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>>159081801
>instead of going to the meeting of Western Lords
Which Roswaal told her not to, because she's not competent enough yet. So far she's mostly shown to be gong along with everyone else. With what we've seen of her so far, there would be no way to indicate any leadership ability. If she's just leading by ideals, then that's kind of silly. Her ideals are pretty basic shit.
>>159081212
And I disagree with your way of thinking.
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>>159081878
You can't disagree with the truth. Emilia can rule simply by being a symbol.
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>>159082131
And I say that's not ruling.
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>>159082131
"A puppet" will sound more appropriate I believe.
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>>159082208
And I say you're retarded, that is a form of ruling.
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>>159082279
No, that would be excessive. Considering her team, they wouldn't use her.
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>>159082131
>>159082279
>>159082334
A mascot?
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>>159082368
Yes, that is if she wins prematurely. She'd be like a mascot until she learns politics properly.
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>>159082421
But she's not even a good mascot.
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Anyone go the mega link with all of the chapters? My computer that had the link just had hard drive failure. So help an anon out?
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>>159082451
Because she's a half-elf? That shouldn't be a problem once she becomes ruler.
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>>159082533
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_wOtTltdwZhHK0UKaV1AelPcA-K70SdWPcY3FTBJGnA/mobilebasic

every single chapter that has ever been translated is in here
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>>159082533
https://mega.nz/#F!VNdzDYYK!nK9fNU3LeprlZSbRAnlsRg
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>>159081878
>Which Roswaal told her not to, because she's not competent enough yet.

That's not what he said. He said wasn't something that required her immeditatie attention.

>Roswaal: “I respect Emilia-sama's decision, aaaaaaand there's nothing urgent for her to do here, sooooo I'm amenable to it. Though it iiiiiiiiiis worrying that their intentions are uuuuuuunreadable

This also implies she have gone normally otherwise. Rsowaal can only act as an adviser her on stuff, he can't actually lead her.

>So far she's mostly shown to be gong along with everyone else. With what we've seen of her so far, there would be no way to indicate any leadership ability. If she's just leading by ideals, then that's kind of silly. Her ideals are pretty basic shit.

That's literally false because going to Priestella was her idea no Subaru's, not Otto and not Roswaal. It's everyone that going along with it. You can't be leading anymore than that and it's most example of being a leader.

You literally say this wasn't Emilia idea even tho, it was literally her decision. Also Faction wise Otto said other than lack of strong base from the regional nobles Emilia is on equal footing with Priscilla and Felt at the moment overall.
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>>159082617
can you please stop reddit spacing god dammit, actually better yet go back to where you came from
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>>159082534
>once she becomes ruler
She's already adept at measuring steps
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>>159082460
>That's literally false because going to Priestella was her idea no Subaru's
It was Anastasia's idea. She was invited and agreed to attend without much thought or consideration, rather than attend a meeting that Roswaal told her not to attend. That's not really deciding policy, management, or anything much.
>Emilia is on equal footing with Priscilla and Felt at the moment overall.
Mostly because of Subaru. Which is the point.
>>159082534
I'm pretty sure it would.
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>>159082617

Oh and one more other thing.
>Her ideals are pretty basic shit

Literally none of candidates are better. Some like Priscilla are basically saying pick me because I said so! Anna is pick me because I'll make all rich! Only Emilia an Crusch had any decent general policies people could get behind. This even lampshaded by Subaru himself during the Knighthood ceremony.

>>159082698
What the fuck does this even
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>>159083042
>Literally none of candidates are better.
That's really not my point. It's basic "be nice to people" ideals. A problem here is that a lot of the candidates are assholes, so maybe Emilia stands out in that narrow comparison, but even Felt seems more likely to reorganize the government in a positive direction that benefited equality.
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>>159082866
>It was Anastasia's idea. She was invited and agreed to attend without much thought or consideration, rather than attend a meeting that Roswaal told her not to attend. That's not really deciding policy, management, or anything much.


Now you are just plainy using Sophistry. Anastasia invited her. It was Emilia choice to attention or not and go to Western Lord's meeting instead. It was made on what felt was more important to her. Roswaal had nothing to do with it and the decision was already before he said one thing about it. He only noted her being there is fine, but it was entriely up to her. She chosoe to give priority to meeting Anastatia in instead. That's bona-fide decision making, period. You just making excuses that are not reflect in the reading in anyway. Everyone in the story treats as Emilia and see none telling her what to do, only what her options are.

I said nothing about the event itself being her idea and that is completely irrelevant to Emilia choosing to attend it or not. By logic none of other Candidates who will show made do decision to do so of heir own will because... they chose to show up?
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>>159083366
That's completely baseless assumption on your part. More this what text says, which trumps you're interpretation.

Besides politicians campaign basic ideas like rights and shit all the time.
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>>159083399
No. I'm saying it's simply not a very significant decision and would likely have had little influence if the Witch Cult hadn't shown up to fuck with them. None of the other candidates who showed up made an important decision regarding their faction's management or policy.
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Before going to sleep, I would like to remind you that Ferri is the cutest, purest, and kindest.
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>>159083528
>Besides politicians campaign basic ideas like rights and shit all the time.
Yes, they do. I want to know what Emilia stands to offer besides the same basic shit every politician includes in their platform.
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>>159082617
>Emilia is on equal footing with Priscilla and Felt at the moment overall.
>Someone who does absolutely NOTHING letting her luck work things out and a street thief
Amazing standing I'd say
Of which the big part are Subaru's deeds committed for his own reasons and the rest is Roswaal's sponsorship that he pledge did in order to USE her in the first place rather than being a follower
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>>159083552
>No. I'm saying it's simply not a very significant decision

You don't decide what is significant or not. The characters in the story do and how it is reflected there. This goes the same for any other character, your arbitrary on you own. It also doesn't change it was her decision which what we were talking about. You are just moving goalpost.

>and would likely have had little influence if the Witch Cult hadn't shown up to fuck with them.

Literally has nothing to do what I'm talking about. The Emilia Faction isn't going to this event expecting the Witch Cult to show up.

>None of the other candidates who showed up made an important decision regarding their faction's management or policy.

The Emilia Faction isn't either? As Otto said their are here to gain foothold here if not simply for PR. Anastasia has not power of base in the area they going to so they can gain some unexpected influence on top achieving one of Emilia's goals. It's press they momentum now that people are recognizing the Factions power and Emilia's platform.
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>>159084060
>You don't decide what is significant or not. The characters in the story do and how it is reflected there.
>The Emilia Faction isn't going to this event expecting the Witch Cult to show up.
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>>159084060
>The Emilia Faction isn't going to this event expecting the Witch Cult to show up.
Of course not.
>You are just moving goalpost.
I am clarifying the goalpost, as I obviously disregarded that decision from the start as having little relevance to the management and policy of their faction.
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>>159083662
Nobody offering same platform as her. They Candidates explain their positions so why are you lying and putting words in their mouth?

>>159084047
Amazing standing I'd say

Nobody gives a shit where . They politicans nows and they only care about results.

>Of which the big part are Subaru's deeds committed for his own reasons and the rest is Roswaal's sponsorship that he pledge did in order to USE her in the first place rather than being a follower

No he did them for Emilia and says so himself. And going by your logic Subaru actually did little, because was Crusch's and Anna crew defeated the While Whale and they ones who did most damage to Sloth.

Roswaal did jackshit incidents of Arc 3 and actively caused the problems of Arc 4. So who the hell was following him? Emilia was the one to liberate the Sanctuary and lead defeat of Great Rabbit in the end which was not his intention and now she gaining respect in his territory. Moreover he has no choice but to be subservient to her because she only way he attain his goals he has go along with whatever she decides. That was like one points of Arc 4, to reverse the situation of power in Emilia's favor.
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>>159084447
>in their mouth?
I was referring to the real world.
>And going by your logic Subaru actually did little
Not him, but Subaru made the deal and organized things, and presented himself as whale bait. And that's all the credit I'd give him.
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>>159084164
Okay, so you saying that the Emilia Faction went to Priestella knowing the Witch Cult would show up despite nothing remotely suggesting that and they had other planes which they just outline in the last two chapters.

The fuck?

>>159084341
>I am clarifying the goalpost, as I obviously disregarded that decision from the start as having little relevance to the management and policy of their faction.

And I'm saying that makes no sense because every action a lead takes based on their goals which reflected. Again you aren't the authority to decide what is significant or not.
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>>159084684
>based on their goals which reflected.
Alright. Emilia wants to restore Puck. This tells me nothing about her competency as a ruler.
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>>159084575
>I was referring to the real world.
No weren't. You just moving goalposts again.

Even then the real world isn't very different. Speaking to the masses using political rhetoric is standard.

>Not him, but Subaru made the deal and organized things, and presented himself as whale bait. And that's all the credit I'd give him.

Roswaal pre-arrange those things and Subaru didn't procure them himself. So he can't get any credit even if he had the final decision. This his hypocritical.

Even during the battle itself 90% of the tactics and strategy was Crusch and Wilhelm. Subaru help at one moment. Again this is that guy's logic.

It's same logic that Emilia not being the one to decided to go Priestsella sudden doesn't matter,, that her liberating the Sanctuary, evacuate the villages to the tomb and facing off the Great Rabbit doesn't matter.

No cannot decide what is important based on your whims, everyone gets credit when due to them in the story but here you and the other guys trying make excuses out of bias.
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>>159082533
Aren't these the ones with the poison on them? Or is that a different black caterpillar?
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>>159085112
>No weren't.
"Yes was", to use your grammar. Everyone talks about equality these days. Most everyone believes in equality these days. The problem is that people disagree on what this means or how to go about it. So someone using "equality" as a political platform is meaningless to me, until I see the related policy behind it. Maybe I'm just overthinking things there, but that's that.

I've seen nothing to impress me as to Emilia's skills as a leader yet. I'll remark on that when I see it.
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>>159084726
A ruler decisions is not made in vacuum. She can get other opportunities to restore Puck if wants to do so. That fact prioritize meeting Anastasia over another agenda shows that she capable of balancing her decisions in respect where she is right now. People will follow those decisions and even advise her on how to take better they as they are doing now. In this case seems to be Otto's job because acts like an attendant to her.
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>>159085318
No these are the ones with birthday hats.
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>>159085470
Emilia is shown to not really have anything else on her plate, and it's also shown she didn't make the decision with much thought.
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I want to know how many people are here right now

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>>159085435
>Everyone talks about equality these days.
Not in Lungica, my point.

Even then people talk about equality because people are unequal due to systems in society put in place. it's not done for entertainment so whether you tried of it or not literally does not matter. It's legitimately platform and it is fighting rights of specific groups that go unnoticed. If were pointless thing everybody was going to do then it would not written in the story at all.

>Most everyone believes in equality these days

Irrelevant people are still not equal. And in Luginca it's not widely held belief that is why Garf and Freiderica and all other disfranchised had to hide in Roswaal's territory.

>The problem is that people disagree on what this means or how to go about it

Again not relevant to Lugnica or the other candidates. Just as Priscilla doesn't care about up rooting the social system or Felt how doesn't care about having people stop worshiping the dragon nobody cares about her specific issues.

> So someone using "equality" as a political platform is meaningless to me

This not about you. It's about what is happening in the story, it is an issue in the story. Just as you opinion on what is significant is doesn't matter. It's no wonder you are so at odds with the story and things in text.
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>>159085644
>Emilia is shown to not really have anything else on her plate,

Literally every candidate is about a single general issue. None of them talking about anything else about their goal. This excuse doesn't fly. You poorly trying to single out Emilia in most negative way possible without any sense of your double standards.

>and it's also shown she didn't make the decision with much thought

She gave it enough that she decided it was worth the risk. She not unaware that Anastasia might be trying to put her in debt that's why she discussing with Otto in what other benefits this trip might have. She doesn't have take the deal either if she feels it's gonna be bad.
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>>159085960
>it is an issue in the story.
Yes, but the details are all incredibly unclear to the point where it's meaningless. Is the inequality a legal or social issue? Do demihumans have lesser rights? Do people tend to mistreat them? What steps does Emilia believe should be taken to resolve these issues? Has she taken any steps to resolve them?
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So i just got caught up to chapter 3 of the latest arc, when did Subaru find out Al is from Japan. I thought he didnt know.
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>>159086177
He knew when Al told him.
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>>159082565
>>159082568

Thanks a lot anons. I'll return the favor if anyone needs them again.
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>>159086437
When did Al tell him
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>>159086819
>Suabru even notices that there is no Demihuman soldiers or high ranking officials in the capital
That doesn't tell us if it's legal or social. It's not even clear how the rules about the hierarchy even work.
>Half-bloods are literally can't human towns, Demi-humans live isolated commiunties and on top of that a civil war fought over it. What do you think?
Is that still true with half-bloods? In Arc 4, it was implied the position on Demihumans had already improved a lot since Sanctuary was founded. There have definitely been serious tensions with Demihumans, but I guess it's impossible to judge anything from Roswaal's territory.
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>>159087062
Literally when they first meet
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>>159086165
>Yes, but the details are all incredibly unclear to the point where it's meaningless.

-The Demihuman War
-The Witch Envy, the elves
-The Sanctuary's purpose
-Frederica and Garfiel's past

All of these have gone enough depth about this very issue. This shows you are not reading and don't care.

>Is the inequality a legal or social issue?
It's both and you know that if had been paying attention.

>Do demihumans have lesser rights?
Yes, Freiderica even talk about this. Subaru even notices that there is no Demihuman soldiers or high ranking officials in the capital.

>Do people tend to mistreat them?
Half-bloods can't human towns out of fear of their non-human traits being shown, Deni-humans live isolated communities and on top of that a civil war fought over it. What do you think?

>Emilia believe should be taken to resolve these issues? Has she taken any steps to resolve them?

That's what half of this story is about. Repairing the relations the Witch of Envy damaged. It's already started by Emilia improving her own image to humans in Roswaal territory and wining over half-bloods in Sanctuary to side. Her Faction getting the credit fro the defeat of the White Whale and soon-to-be acknowledged Great Rabbit's is proving she not premonition of misfortune and she has been society giving her words much needed clout. People are starting slowly see her for herself and not a Satella stand in.
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>>159087157
>That doesn't tell us if it's legal or social. It's not even clear how the rules about the hierarchy even work.

No that just tells me your playing to willfully ignorance. If a character bring ups in the story than it's relevant period, because it is in the author's words.

>Is that still true with half-bloods?

Yes, that why Roswaal still gathering half-blood in the Sanctuary and why Frederica still feels she owes Rsowaal for that.

> it was implied the position on Demihumans had already improved a lot since Sanctuary was founded

No, Frederica that relations improved somewhat after the Demihuman War. Relations were never great even after Sanctuary because humans still fear Satella. If things were good the themes of discrmination and the stuff happened because would not have brought up in the story.

>There have definitely been serious tensions with Demihumans, but I guess it's impossible to judge anything from Roswaal's territory.

It's been stated several times that Roswaal's territory is only place that treat Demihumans with any respect and where their lives are actually decent. it's the expectation not the rule. Emilia wants to change that which reiterated to Subaru during the Knight hod ceremony.

Arc 4.5 Ch 7

>Unfolding in the Milord banquet hall is a sight where humans and demihumans, nobles and servants and commoners, all interact without any division between race or class. Subaru called it the ideal, and Emilia gazed at it with longing. Subaru knows exactly how the fire in Emilia's heart is kindled.

>Subaru: “If your goal's to see that again, I'm helping you. I agree that it's wonderful. No one's gonna stop you from adding that onto your list of reasons for trying.”

So it's basically it's definitely something that is an issue thematically. Emilia positioning herself as bridge to bring that future.
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>>159087721
>No, Frederica that relations improved somewhat after the Demihuman War.
Which happened after sometime since Sanctuary was formed.
>it's the expectation not the rule.
Maybe, but we never clearly see the rule anywhere. I'm not saying it's irrelevant, just not clearly depicted. We know there's a social hierarchy, even among humans, where lower classes are treated poorly. We have yet to see anyone who actually has an issue with demihuman equality.
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>>159030978
>yfw it is not Rem's chapter
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>>159088258
Why do people post in such ugly place?
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>>159088258
It's okay to not like Rem. But if you genuinely don't understand why people do like her you just end up looking like you haven't read/watched the material.
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>>159088434
Not sure. Are you?
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>>159088258
She is the only character who doesn't abandon Subaru. She was there for him in his time of need, she has a self-less personality who even gave up her chance to runaway with Subaru because it wasn't the best for him.
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>>159088782
I didn't even mention that they have great chemistry and their dialouge doesn't consist of "wow you are so pretty and amazing" and "I don't understand"
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>>159088782
>I don't believe that you're taking the context into consideration as much as you should in those observations
what the fuck are you talking about
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>>159089018
Subaru and Emilia's dialogues don't consist of "Subaru-kun is cute!" and Rem's mean jokes.
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The MEGA link is not working
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>>159088555
I like her best in the WN, but I'm not sure I can concisely explain why I like her like other Anons do. Is it related to how her suffering tends to be more clearly depicted than that of any character but Subaru? Possibly. Do I think she's cute? Yes. Am I edgy enough to enjoy her expressions when killing Subaru? Sure. But those are the little things.

I'll try to keep it simple here. She has a good balanced set of flaws and strong points that all fit together quite well, and are practically inseparable from one another. When compared to the average character in the series, Rem clearly has a few screws loosened. Though her personality is rather warped, she's still got a good heart under that and her characterization doesn't overemphasize her oddities. She is entirely functional despite her issues, though people who know her do seem to treat her differently because of them.
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>>159089552
maybe you got the wrong mega link
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>>159089552
Works for me
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>>159088258
Every character in the series is good. But personally her character impressed and wowed me the most, mainly due to how she was first introduced as a seemingly generic and irrelevant side character but ended up doing way more impressive and impactful things on both the story and the main character (for example, that one speech) than the supposed main heroine ever could, which I thought was very unexpected and actually awesome. She's the reason why I begin to take all other characters serious because I realize one doesn't have to be a main character or some shit in order to shine in this very series. That's also why I find it very special and enjoyable.
I didn't like her personality in the anime though, because I thought she was kind of a doormat and moeblob. However, the misconception was cleared up after I watched From Zero episode and started to have positive impression of her as she stood up against Subaru and refused to be submissive to him. Oh and her character is damn good and interesting in the source material so you should definitely check it out. Or even the mangas would be a considerable upgrade over the anime.
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>>159088015
>Which happened after sometime since Sanctuary was formed.

No,no,no. The whole reason the Sanctuary exists, Demihuman War happened, why still tensions and unequal is because relations are still not good. Even now after the Sanctuary was liberated half-bloods can't live society normally. That why Frederica has been go around and trying to gather some sympathizers in small settlements to prove a place for them to stay at least.

>Maybe, but we never clearly see the rule anywhere. Maybe, but we never clearly see the rule anywhere. I'm not saying it's irrelevant, just not clearly depicted. We know there's a social hierarchy, even among humans, where lower classes are treated poorly. We have yet to see anyone who actually has an issue with demihuman equality.

This is false. Besides the fact we have only been between Roswaal's domain and Capital area, we have seen discrimination towards Emilia in even in those, the segregated areas in the capital and heard the stories of demihuman blooded folks Frederica who have experienced it then there the war etc. You have no reason to disbelieve this because the plot cannot lie to you and it isn't gonna downplay situation because you dislike who it is tied to. You're being contrarian out of bias.
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>>159091019
>She's the reason why I begin to take all other characters serious
Oh, that is another reason I liked her. I don't think I recall any character like her in another series, at least not one who was taken seriously.
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Alright I just got back and saw this shitfest again. Who is the guy saying that being a figurehead or mascot is on the grounds as a legitimate ruler? Isnt it the man or woman making all the impactful calls and the one actuvely keeping the faction together the actual leader?
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>>159088539
>She is the only character who doesn't abandon Subaru

She murdered and literally tortured him. She done far worse to him then any of the non villain cast members. The only reason everyone left Subaru was because he being huge asshole to everyone but her.
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>>159091818
The worst thing is that all the anons are playing to his tune when they shifted the arguement to half blood discremination.
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>>159091673
>You have no reason to disbelieve this because the plot cannot lie to you and it isn't gonna downplay situation because you dislike who it is tied to.
I never said I disbelieved it. I said I didn't clearly see it depicted. Whenever we see interactions between Demihumans and Humans, they usually aren't treated poorly. It makes it nearly impossible to tell what the precise issues are.
>we have seen discrimination towards Emilia in even in those,
We've seen it in Emilia's case, but she's a Half-Elf. There may be discrimination against other Demihumans, but I don't know what kind of discrimination it is. I haven't seen it portrayed in the story.
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>>159091841
addendum

I mean she gets better in the story later, but it's straight up revisionist to say she always there for him. That only happened after he saved her.
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>>159091818
Yes. But somehow Emilia having Subaru be seduced by her is somehow one of the qualities that makes her a leader, despite Subaru and Otto actually being the ones leading and maintaining the faction and its members.
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>>159091818
I didn't know, but he's idiot. Pre Arc 4 Emilia was just a figurehead, Subaru saw this and wanted to change that by giving her an opportunity to prove herself and growth into her ole as head of faction by wrestling control of it from Roswaal. He succeed by giving Emilia the confidence to stand on her feet by having her face her past, reaffirming what she wanted and gathering dependable allies she could trust.

I thought was clear from Arc 4.
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>>159091841
>She murdered and literally tortured him.
His fault for acting suspicious and carrying the witch's scent. Rem did nothing wrong.
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>>159091909
>That only happened after he saved her.
Do you understand what this means in context? Because I often hear people talk about how she loves Subaru after he "saved her from the dogs", which isn't what she means when she says he saved her.

She trusts him after he proved her suspicions wrong, and she got to actually know him.
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>>159091897
>I never said I disbelieved it. I said I didn't clearly see it depicted. Whenever we see interactions between Demihumans and Humans, they usually aren't treated poorly. It makes it nearly impossible to tell what the precise issues are.

Do because you

1. disregard Emilia's treatment
2. disregard Frederica's past and comment on state of country despite having been around it.
3 disregard the war and Sanctuary.

All because you want to legitimatize Emilia's position so you coming up with baseless excuses. You either think the story is lying or it isn't.

>We've seen it in Emilia's case, but she's a Half-Elf. There may be discrimination against other Demihumans, but I don't know what kind of discrimination it is. I haven't seen it portrayed in the story.

IT. IS. STATED. ALL. HALF-BLOODS. ARE DISLIKED. NOT. JUST. HALF-ELVES.

And you not knowing what kind of discrimination it is completely dumb because how somebody discriminates is irrelevant to fact exist. Anyone attacks person's dignity and mistreat out of misguided fear bigotry or otherwise. For fucks you had Felix who held as slave because he was a dem-human.
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>>159092593
>For fucks you had Felix who held as slave because he was a dem-human.
No, he was held in the basement because his dad wasn't sure if he'd been cucked or not.
>how somebody discriminates is irrelevant to fact exist.
It's relevant to how it's dealt with. I want to see this discrimination clearly demonstrated so I can start seeing what kind of solution it needs.
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>>159092114
Not of none is excuse and the story doesn't try justify her behavior. Only make somewhat understandable.

But not even the point. She wasn't always supportive of him and a fact which also part of their relationship.
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>>159092593
>IT. IS. STATED. ALL. HALF-BLOODS. ARE DISLIKED. NOT. JUST. HALF-ELVES.
Oh, and which places dislike them? Are Demihumans and half-bloods less discriminated against in Kararagi?
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>>159091841
>The only reason everyone left Subaru was because he being huge asshole to everyone but her.
Isn't Subaru being an asshole to Rem as well in the anime? He seems somewhat nicer to everyone despite having a hair-trigger temper in the manga. I don't know about how Subaru's portrayed in WN and LN.
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>>159092752
>I don't know about how Subaru's portrayed in WN and LN.
In the WN? He's kind of being an asshole.
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>>159092195
No, the context is implying she was always supportive. I'm pointing that it's not true. Yes she starts to trust him but only after he nearly kills himself for her just like with most of cast. It's not as she was kind to him from day and the witchbeast not happened she would left Subaru too since she have no feelings for him.
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>>159092884
>but only after he nearly kills himself for her
No. She starts to trust him when he runs off to save the kids.
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>>159092997
This.
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>>159092695
>No, he was held in the basement because his dad wasn't sure if he'd been cucked or not.

No, it's bad for nobles to have demi-humans socially. It's noted right in Crusch story.

>It's relevant to how it's dealt with. I want to see this discrimination clearly demonstrated so I can start seeing what kind of solution it needs

It already is and your ideas aren't solve it begin with. But that means you have accept something of Emilia and you can't have that.

>>159092747
Luginca. Demihuman are okay in Vollachia and Kararagi, they don't kind of history Lugnica has with them. Their cultures and society also completely different. No idea bout Gustenko since there is little exposition about them.

>>159092855
He's more an asshole in the first 3 arcs to be more precise. There is some good in there but his issues are little more apparent.
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>>159092997
...Which is Witchbeast incident. No she didn't really trust here either. She admitted in her inner thoughts she complimented leaving there to die to the dogs before he post her out of the way. That's why she felt so guilty the next days she went into the forest to find the dogs that bit him.

Had that incident not happend they wouldn't have relationship they have now. The same goes for all of Subaru's relationships. He had to do something to earn the respect, devotion or friendships he gained.
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>>159093174
>they don't kind of history Lugnica has with them.
I thought relations improved after the Demihuman Wars? In theory, all of the other nations should discriminate against Half-Bloods for the same reasons as Lugnica, because the Witch was a worldwide problem. I'm also pretty sure they've had their own history and conflict with Demihumans in the past.

We simply don't have comparative samples to determine what kind of discrimination most half-blood's face in modern Lugnica. It's mostly Elves that we've seen hiding their identities. We haven't seen so much as a racial slur hurled at someone who wasn't related to Elves.
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>>159093174
>He's more an asshole in the first 3 arcs to be more precise.
Can you be more specific? What did he do in those arcs to be labeled as an asshole?
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>>159093835
I doubt he could be more specific if he is who I think he is, but I can tell you the main differences. Those mostly appear in Arc 2, from what I recall.

I'm not sure how to describe the difference, and don't feel like doing it in detail. For one, he's a lot more focused on sex. Chats with Roswaal about his ambitions of losing his virginity, spits in Roswaal's chair, compares his dick with Roswaal's, imagines Roswaal having threeways with the twins, and worries about Roswaal corrupting Emilia. He openly guesses Ram might be a whore. He talks to Emilia about how Rem and Ram have definitely already lost their virtue to the clown. He talks to Roswaal about his plans to finally get laid. He peeks on Rem and Ram's panties, with are blue and pink.

Oh, and he thinks of Rem and Ram as superior/inferior versions of the other sister. Rem is just a better version of Ram to him, while Ram is just a shittier Rem.

Fortunately, his behavior starts shaping up after Rem kills him.
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>>159094708
Or to shorten that. Relative to the LN, WN Subaru has no filter. Thanks to that, I know how Subaru used to have longer hair as a kid and was often mistaken as a girl, got repeated references to how he used to be in Junior High Kendo Club, and developed a vague suspicion that he spent more time with the club's secret porn stash than actually practicing Kendo.
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>>159094708
>>159094887
Why was Rem's hero so shitty?
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>>159094958
He was a meme-spouting sperglord.

Anyhow, I should probably check out more of the LN to see if Rem really is one of the least changed characters as I suspect.
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>>159094958
Pretty much everything he thought of is pretty damn normal. It's just that you don't expect that from an Anime protagonist more than anything. So he's not an asshole for having lewd thoughts or hating people.

Although, spitting on Roswaal's chair, talking to Emilia about Rem and Ram's virtue, checking out their panties, etc, isn't normal behavior in the slightest.
If he was only thinking about shit like this, it would be one thing, but he also acts them out.
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>>159089779
What is that image supposed to mean? Rem's POV throughout arc 3?
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>>159091818
>>159091890
>>159092034
My argument was based on the assumption that the dragon choose the candidates based on potential and the possibility to actuate it.
As you can see, Emilia surrounds herself with powerhouses despite doing nothing for that to happen and racks up several achievements, despite having little to nothing to do with those.
All these powerhouses are enough to support her in many different ways, including the most important part, that is, politically, see Roswaal and Otto.
Roswaal is the only dick in the whole team, but now that he aligns himself with Subaru and is more truthful about it, he is no longer an issue.

While she has nothing to do with the achievements she gets (except Sanctuary, but no one really cares about that it seems), the reason Subaru even tries to get her achievements is because he loves her and he wants to make her ruler.
Subaru pretty much made Emilia a combination of all the other faction leaders because of the people he is acquiring and adding to Emilia's team. And all these people are not only eager to help, but they also have good intentions.
This is similar to Felt, with how she acquires talented people, only that the reason Emilia is able to do so is because of Subaru, and I believe that the dragon's gem/the dragon takes into consideration these possibilities.

It's rather odd that anyone would dismiss Emilia as a ruler in this piece of fiction when she pretty much has a "blessing" in disguise with Subaru that will gather achievements and people to help Emilia grow and achieve her own objectives, and the only reason she has him, is because she accepted him and Subaru fell for her.
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>>159092696
>Not of none is excuse and the story doesn't try justify her behavior
Let's see what other people carrying the witch's scent usually do.
Oh right, they slaughter oni villages and cut off Ram's horn.
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Ferri is so cute and pure
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An Angel
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Emilia was a mistake
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subaru rem
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SOON we get our Lord and Saviour and NOBODY can stop him
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>>159092114
The rem did nothing wrong fags are just as bad as the Griffith ones
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>>159098228
Rem looks like she's about to cry
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Posting best girl.
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>>159041125
Faggot I know that's from the end of a netorare doujin you cuck.
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>>159099264
She did act out of line but she had perfectly valid reasons to do so.
She's overprotective of her sister and people affiliated with the witch and bearing her scent slaughtered her entire fucking village and turned her sister into a cripple.
So yeah a dude with strong witch scent on him that acts suspicious will get fucking wrecked if he keeps raising the suspicion.
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https://youtu.be/NzkU-ZmuSYA


I like this
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>>159100172

I spotted a Ferri
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I just finished the anime, where can I find the rest in the LN or manga if their is one ? Please
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>>159102322
I'd recommend reading the LNs that Yen Press is translating, because the anime cut some things out. But to continue where the anime ended, you can read the WN: https://pastebin.com/u3VJggF6
Read the available Arc 3 Interludes and Arc 4 chapters on TranslationChicken, and when you run out, move to anon.
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>>159102417
Thank you, much appreciated
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>>159098896
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>>159104854
He's probably a nice guy, but I can't stand how his face looks
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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