Dragon Ball Super

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>>158994706
Today I will remind them.

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>>158994706
Piccolo was the first to try, and the first to DIE

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O MY ABILITY TO MERGE WITH THE UNIVERSE OUT OF NOWHERE DESPITE MY BODY BEING DESTROYED

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>leave those weak universe 7 saiyans to me

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Worship

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Super or GT?

JIREN PORN WHEN

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Top 3 GoD designs.
Go.

Clown
Robot
Fish

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>>158994759
NINGEN

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>>158994746
Huh, Big Green ded?

>>158994706
Why in every dragonball story arc is everyone useless and goku saves the day
In One Piece they have all the members of the crew do something important or beat someone

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>>158994706
Reminder that Som Goku is beautiful.

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>>158994796
GT

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That's it. Im getting sick and tired of DBS' inconsistency.
Dragon Ball and DBZ was consistent as fuck. There was never a plothole at all.

But in Super there is a huge one, and by huge I mean HUGE.

Everyone saw the last Tournament between U6 and U7. Including Zeno.
That tournament was dominated by U7 fighters, they DID WON.
Not to mention Beerus is way stronger than Champa.
So you can't say "ningens lost, but the Hakaishin is stronger".

Now how the fuck is Universe 6 is superior to Universe 7???

> If you would say it's TOei's fault, I 'd believe that!

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>>158994796
Zamasu Saga > Baby Saga

>>158994858
it's TOei's fault

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So why is Murata drawing a lot of DB lately. I hope you're all prepared for the special chapter in the near future

>>158994805
clown, fox, merman for me.

Why do people unironically like Gogeta? Is it because he's another nothing personnel xicor character?

>>158994805
Foxgod
Beerus
Sexy chub Beerus

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>>158994796
Vegetto Blue's fight >>>>> SS4 Gogeta's "fight"

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>>158994838
Cell was the last time anyone but Goku was useful.

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SSJ or SS?

>>158994858

They're not superior in strength. They're superior in quality. Universe 7 is a shithole with shitty gods.

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How many of you started practising partial arts because of Dragon Ball?

>>158994952
>Gogeta
>edgelord
Explain.

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>>158994796
Baby Vegeta > Baby Vegeta

>>158994952
to be contrarian.

>>158994987

It's funny you should say that given that scene was filler.

>>158994952
Because he's cool.

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>>158994866
>SSR Black's ki blasts can't even destroy a building
>0:05 Goku stops dodging yet the Ki blasts still don't hit him
.

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>>158994796
GT characters gave their strength to DBS Future Trunks.

You be the judge.

>>158994796
GT

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>>158994838
>Why in every dragonball story arc is everyone useless and goku saves the day
Not in the Future Trunks arc (at least the anime version)

>>158995063
>at least the anime version

the other version is not canon

>>158994986
super fans have Stockholm syndrome at this point. Any piece of animation that isn't complete shit is amazing to them, as long as it's dragon ball. The Vegito vs Zamazu fight is not as bad as some other DBS fights, but it's still laughable when compared to well animated fights. Besides every hit feeling like it has no weight, the leg thing you mentioned which looks retarded, and how the battle has no sense of choreography, there is the ridiculous punches Vegito threw as hulk Zamasu that look Goku vs Botamo tier, the bitch made final kamhameha that looks pathetic, the stupid way Zamazu gets up after the first hit, which looks awkward as fuck, that embarrassing mid air clash they have were it looks like they're dancing next to each other, and the dumb close up of Vegito punching. It's not an awful fight, but I laugh everytime someone posts a webm of it to defend super's animation.

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>>158994805
Quitela, Liqour and Beerus in a tie.

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>>158994796
At least in GT, Freeza was still evil

>>158995036
Dragonball's destructive feats and power are a very weird thing.
If they had every character give an accurate representation of how strong they were, then there would be no galaxy left to live in.
You kinda gotta headcanon that they're controlling and directing their Ki perfectly to avoid collateral.

>>158994952
he was in the intro for b3

>>158994986
>0:32
>Vegetto slides on the ground like some ice rink

>>158995023
filler improved dbz, super just has shit filler
>tien and yamcha training with king kai
>that driving school episode
I'll admit that they werent even useful in buu saga filler aside from Tien though.
>Gotenks and Gohan become much stronger than Goku
>Still die like retards

>>158995099
The question was Super or GT

That stale pasta has nothing to do with this

>>158995099
You
are
mad

>>158994866
Nah, zamasu saga was nothing but nonstop asspulls at increasingly verbose speed. atleast baby saga made some damn sense.

>>158994986
This was one of the best animated scenes in super, yet it still looked a little bit floaty at times.

I don't care about meme hate trains, but please, Super needs better animation.

>>158994796
Why did Toriyama give SS3 a Neanderthal brow ridge?

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>>158994986
>SS4 Gogeta's "fight"
But anon...

>>158994986
>the "static" camera at 0:18
Again,this sequence could work if the background actually moves so it looks like the camera is moving,but it doesn't because of shitty budget = no leftovers for bg artists

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Why does toei have to throw Tien and Yamcha's anal loving in our faces so much? I mean, fine... they are boyfriends, whatever... but they push it on us too much in Super.

>>158995000
>teleports behind you
>kicks you
>blows you up with fairy dust
>all without saying a word

pshhhbhhhhhhh

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>>158995220
He literally stole the concept of SS3 from Yu Yu Hakusho and he didnt give a fuck anymore.

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Did something happen, cause there is more shitposting than usual in these threads.

>>158995128
At least in Super, Freeza is still strong

>oops I forgot the Senzu Beans
>oops I forgot the Urn in the time machine
>oops I forgot the Seal at Kame house
Why is this arc so shit?

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There's a timeline where a Future Gohan and Future Trunks know about our Future Trunks.

How does that effect their fate?

>>158995246
I don't recall them interacting at all during Super.

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Are saiyans important?

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What's that, you want me to stop beating you already? Didn't you say you were some super prince god or something just few minutes ago? What a disappointment. Fine I'll take you out of your misery, but only if you show how much you apologize by licking my feet.

>>158995246
Fuck off. Tenshinhan is for Chaozu and Yamcha is for Puar.

>>158994805
Helles, Arak, Beerus

>>158995329
Yes.

>>158995023
that filler made that entire kamehameha battle the best scene in the entire series, its a bit anti climactic in the manga

>>158995175
Nah, the fighting choreography in GT's Baby Saga was absolute shit

And if it made more "sense", it's because Goku was basically doing all the fighting. Well...there was Majuub, but he was a shit jobber even after fusing with Fat Buu

>>158995313
>oops apparently I have healing powers

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>>158994994
When I was a kid I started martial arts cuz of Dragon Ball... then I got older and did a bunch of drugs and dropped out as a brown belt 1 month before black belt test. Nowadays, I sit in front of a computer screen monitoring corporate networks until something goes and watching anime and shitposting on 4chan all day. Ahhh the twists and turns of life.

When I was on drugs, there were various times I believed my power level was in fact over 9000.

>>158994986
That isn't well animated though, they just sped it up so it looks all flashy.

And DBS is stupid as fuck for many other reasons, not just how it looks. If they got a bad guy that can tank god ssj vegitto, then there's absolutely no way Goku & co can win the fight.

>>158995252
The Buu Saga was cool though.
It still managed to continue previously established narrative concepts, and the jerky focus felt kinda fitting considering Goku started it dead.

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>>158995128
Freeza did nothing wrong

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>>158995333
Ever hear of a foursome anon?

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O MY SWORD OF FRIENDSHIP

>>158995391
Still makes more sense than regular SSJ2 Trunks cutting through Zamasu with a steel sword and then Goku pulling a GoD technique out of his ass

ToP ending power ranking
1. Roshi win
2. Hit win
3. Kale win
4. Vegeta win
5. Jiren win
.
.
.
9001. Goku win
90001. Gohan win
900001. Furry win
9000001. Caulifla win

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Will Vegeta defeat Hit in the ToP? He'll struggle with Brianne, and he will get some BS character development about learning the value of teamwork before beating her, but I think that Hit will be his real opponent this time around.

I mean, sure Hit /could/ job to Jiren, but Vegeta already undoubtedly will already. Someone has to take out Hit, will it be our boy, the Prince?

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O MY EXCLUSIVE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE NOT SSB TRANSFORMATION, WHICH FOR SOME REASON DIDN'T ACTIVATE DURING THE ENTIRE YEAR I SPENT FIGHTING BLACK WHERE HUMANITY WAS BROUGHT TO IT'S KNEES YET AGAIN OR WHEN MY MOTHER AND WAIFU(SEEMINGLY) DIED

>>158995391
That wasn't the point of the post.

Are you defending SS4 Gogeta's "battle"?

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*sigh* looks like it's time for us Toeichads to put the pathetic neet Toyocucks in their place again

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>Whis stated Goku has the potential to become a God of destruction
>Goku learns a God of destruction technique
>IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE

Desperate Toei shills

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>>158994896
It's like watching a spic kid abandoned by his single mother shovel human excrement into his mouth.

>"What are you doing, little Pedro?"
>"Shut up! Leave me alone!"
>"Why are you eating fecal matter? It's unhealthy. It isn't right."
>"Fuck you! I love shit! SHIT SHIT SHIT!!!"
>"But that's not edible. It's wrong. You're hurting yourself."
>"FUCK YOU I LOVE SHIT REEEEEEE"

What are you to do? You try to help and explain but he doesn't listen.

>>158995391
>That isn't well animated though

Yes it is. You're saying it's not to challenge the common consensus that that scene is good.
The artwork of the characters was on-point and though the fight lacked choreography it was well-animated and visually appealing thanks to the aforementioned art.

>>158995468
Do you really think the writers would throw Vegetables a bone like that?

>>158995370
>Nah, the fighting choreography in GT's Baby Saga was absolute shit
I mean yeah, they have the excuse of being cheap shit before computer animation, like older pokemon episodes. however the difference between super and the likez of pokemon XY is that super stayed looking like shit on average despite having the tools to look good. I mean look at >>158994866 both the fight choreography and animation are fuck ugly and this is the shit DBS fags champion around. Jesus Christ. And even if goku does everything at least it makes sense. I'd rather have a bad story that makes sense than a bad story that's so bad it doesn't even try to make sense. SSRage is pretty much nothing more than trash for selling those cards.

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>>158995441
OH MY BROKEN END-GAME ATTACK OUT OF NOWHERE

> in b4 Goku learned it off-screen because he was a GoD "candidate" (Goku refused)

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Who's your favorite god of destruction?

Who's the hottest?

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>>158995485
O MY EXCLUSIVE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE TRANSFORMATION (part 2)

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>>158995468
>before beating her
Just like 18, right?

>>158995533
If you had anything interesting worth reading, I guess you wouldn't have used a shit analogy. Better luck next time!

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>>158995512
Honestly, I feel like the best way to put Traceopedro fags in their place is to not talk about them at all

>>158995485
>>158995528
>>158995551
>>158995584
ya stop this
both of ya stop this
right now

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Why didn't Goku use Kaioken when Black taunted him with the death of Goten and Chi Chi?

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/our guy/

>>158995551
I haven't read the manga, but at least that shit makes sense.

Battle prodigy with god ki learns a god move to a very basic level, struggles to use it, what's ass pull about that.

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>>158995581
Liquir

Liquir

>tfw will never spend eternity in servitude to my foxgod

>>158995607
>Why didn't Manga Goku DO ANYTHING when Black taunted him with the death of Goten and Chi Chi?

Great question. He barely even seemed phased

>>158995584
SSB isn't exclusive to Gouk retard.

>>158995622
I don't care about anime vs manga but Toyo will never be our guy as long as Tori is alive.
Tori's art takes fucking shits on this goofball. He's not even the best fanfiction faggot that could have continued the series.

>>158994993
This. Universe ratings are not based on the strength of their fighters whatsoever. Remember how in universe 11 everyone had super advanced fancy technology everywhere and has a team of fighters that constantly keeps the inhabitants safe from evildoers at all cost? THAT'S what determines a high rating. Now, if you compare universe 6, whose saiyans are sworn to protect the universe from evil and has frost on the run as soon as he's found out, to universe 7, whose saiyans are selfish, idiotic brutes that worked under freeza and would sacrifice the lives of everyone they care about and thensome for a good fight even if they are "pure of heart", which do you think deserves the higher rating?

>>158995485
>OR WHEN MY MOTHER AND WAIFU(SEEMINGLY) DIED
this is really what gets me. your fucking mother was just brutally murdered and you take that in stride, but a little shit talk is what sends you over the edge

>>158995584
>in the manga SSB has a flaw that explains why goku and vegeta don't just mop the floor with all the other tournament participants besides "guess they're just god level too lol"
>the perfected form of SSB negates this flaw
>hurr that makes as much sense as an unexplained powerup acquired through means that don't make sense
I don't believe there should be a "manga vs anime" feud because super is shit no matter how you slice it but you cannot be this retarded.

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>>158995584
>mastered super saiyan form = special snowflake transformation
Looks like somebody didn't watch the Cell Saga. You're reaching real hard there, anon.

>"He trained under Roshi, so automatically pulling Kamehameha out of his ass makes sense!"

>"He trained under Kaio-sama, so automatically pulling Kaio-ken and Genki Dama out of his ass makes sense!"

>"He trained on Planet Yardat, so automatically pulling Instant Transmission out of his ass makes sense!"

This is literally Goku's gimmick.

>>158995630
>I haven't read the manga, but at least that shit makes sense.

>falseflagging toyocuck

Why is Kid Buu more popular than Super Buu when Kid Buu has less screentime?

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Stop fighting guys

You're making Pan sad

>not a Kame Sennin
>learns Kame Hame-Ha

>not a Kaio
>learns Kaio-Ken

>not a Hakaishin
>learns Hakai

REEEEEEEEEEEE FUCKING GOKU YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO MY HEADCANON IT'S WRONG BECAUSE I SAY SO

>>158995589
He's fighting evenly with her in SS1 in the OP. The gap between that and SSB is way to much for someone of that level to overcome. Especially when she hasn't been built up AT ALL

>>158995704
I don't think he is. Is he?

>Episode 96: The young park rangers! Goten and Trunks' new responsibilities!
>Episode 97: An animal missing!?!? Goten's determination!
>Episode 98: To the battleground! Let's start the Tournament of Power!
>Episode 99: Universe 7 in danger! Dicasty gets suspended!
>Episode 100: For the Universe! The Tournament begins!

>>158995717
I'll calm her with my dick.

>>158995318
WHAT THE FUCK

>>158995727
>isn't a god of destruction
>can use god ki
uhhhhh goku, can you stop?

>>158995630
I imagine it doesn't make sense to anyone who was running with the assumption that it's a special skill given to GoDs when they are promoted. Like some transcendental power that is tied to their role, not a fighting technique.
Granted, that is an assumption and was not really stated, was it?

>>158995695
>Kamehameha is his signature and therefore under different rules
>was directly taught Kaio-Ken and Genki Dama
>was directly taught IT

>was never taught or even shown to have seen hakai in the manga
>uses it anyway

Don't care how you slice it or how you feel the need to defend the manga. Shit writing, cry about it.

>>158995727
Leave now, toyocuck

>>158995607
>Why didn't Goku use Kaioken when Black taunted him with the death of Goten and Chi Chi?
because the anime doesn't make fucking sense. I have a friend who's legit like "I wonder what it'll take for goku to go SSBRage" and I'm like "They didn't even bother to explain SSrage. it's never coming back."

>>158995695
Didn't they show him training the Kaio-ken and Genki Dama with King Kai?

>>158995704
because kid buu is his final/pure form and the one that posed the most threat. that, and the forms used at the arc's climax/villain's death are generally used to identify them

>>158995751
t. pedo pedro

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>>158995657
"Mastered" SSB

In other words, Toyo's answer to SSB Kaioken

Unless Vegeta also gets it. I hope not as two Merged Zamasu-tier fighters would fuck everything up

>>158995759
I don't remember it being stated in the anime.

>>158995727
>headcanon

It's nothing about "headcanon", and more about what's incredibly lazy, sloppy writing that undermines Gods of Destruction.
Whichever you prefer, manga or anime, if you're excusing that horrible writing in which Goku pulled a hakai, you're an imbecile with horribly low standards. Even for Super's already piss-poor standards of storytelling.

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>>158995728
Even Zamasu pulled a fast one on a ssblue. Vegeta is jobbing.

>>158994993
Would you fucking retards stop replying to this stale pasta? Are you autistic, does the repetition stop you from needing to blow into a bag or something? Fuck you're goddamn stupid.

>Didn't they show them training to get SSB
SSB is an asspull dammit!!!
Goku and Vegeta using SSB is bullshit!!!!

>GT
>Frieza gets a dignified cameo, he's still evil and powerful and hates Goku

>Super
>Frieza is goku's pal now, he's a joke character and got defeated by a single punch from goku

>>158995801
>supposed to be an "authority on DB"
>doesn't know the difference between a used power and lent power

Who is this cuck again? Did he start watching this shit at Super?

>>158995748
>putting up fake titles for episodes we already have confirmed titles for

>>158995691
> Comparing Full-Powered SS to Mastered SSB

You're a retard if you think they are the same.

We explicitly say Goku and Gohan trained to master their SS1 form. When did we see Goku train to use Mastered SSB?

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>>158995657
>Gouk retard
I don't know why this made me laugh so hard.

>GOUK NOE!!
>FLEAZA IS GOING TO MAKE THE HOLE
>TEH OMNIVERSE TOO BECOME SCRATCHY
>STOP TO MAKE HIM GO
>DON'T IT KNOW

>>158995248
>anyone that I don't like is an edgelord
Okay, kid.

>>158995809
Again
SSB isn't exclusive to Goku retard.

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Claim yours before someone else does!

While all of that is going on in the thread, let's try something different whilst we wait endlessly for next episode:

What kind of fighters do you think Universe 8 would have had if they competed with what little we know? And what do you think of their God of Destruction so far?

>>158995688
>>158995691
Perfected SSB was an asspull lmao
I doubt you'll agree, because you want to defend muh manga. But it's garbage just like the anime.

>>158995858
They did show them training with Whis, though.

>>158994882
>>158994993
>sees "Dragon Ball and DBZ was consistent as fuck. There was never a plothole at all."
>still thinks it's a real post and replies

actual retards

>>158995890
>When did we see Goku train to use Mastered SSB?
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/158666922/#158668361

>>158995903
No thanks, I already have a waifu.

>>158995858
False flagging toyocuck and what's funny is that the anime actually foreshadowed it in the retelling.

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>>158995641
He has such a cute voice, he really is the complete package.

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>>158995903
Ok

>>158995922
>They did show them training with Whis, though.
Nope they didn't show SSB faggot.
>HURR DURR it was off screen!!!
Fuck off with that asspull shit.

>>158995930
>pulling shit out of your ass

lol

>>158994805
Helles
Pennywise
Dumbo

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>>158995695
>>158995727

>>"He trained under Roshi, so automatically pulling Kamehameha out of his ass makes sense!"
which we SEE happens

>"He trained under Kaio-sama, so automatically pulling Kaio-ken and Genki Dama out of his ass makes sense!"

Which we KNOW happens, because it was explicitly mentioned

>"He trained on Planet Yardat, so automatically pulling Instant Transmission out of his ass makes sense!"
Goku literally mentioned the reason WHY he knows the move

>"He trained under Whis, so automatically pulling Hakai out of his ass makes sense!"
On the other hand, we got no explanation of WHY he got Hakai

Goku was NOT a GoD candidate. He outright refused. He didn't say as he used the technique for the first time that he trained for it, or even learned it by anyone through imitation

>>158995891
>Gouk
>picture is of Goahn

>>158995955
They showed them training with Whis which resulted in SSB, though.
They showed the process, therefore it's not an asspull, as it was thematically built to.
Hakai was not thematically built to, therefore it's an asspull.
That's how these things work.

>>158995956
>no argument
wew lad

>>158995252
Bored Toriyama gave us the best moments in Dr Slump and the Buu saga was GOAT.

>>158995991
>no argument is presented in response to nothing

Surprised?

>>158995897
No one is saying that retard

>>158995988
>They showed them training with Whis which resulted in SSB, though.
See >>158995955

Nope they didn't show SSB faggot.
>HURR DURR it was off screen!!!
Fuck off with that asspull shit.

>>158995023
>muh filler
That same scene in the manga was anticlimactic shit. The anime "filler" made it infinitely more dramatic and tense.

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>>158995717
As if the squabbling of weaklings, even the likes of Goku, Vegeta or Beerus could make pan sad.

My bets are still hedged that baby Pan might be a substitute tournament member.

>>158995930
That literally doesn't show anything

I'll ask again, where in the manga did we see Goku train for the Mastered SSB form?

>>158995988
Ok then.
>They showed them training with Whis and Beerus which resulted in Hakai, though.

>>158996029
I think I broke this Toyocuck
Oh well he lost anyway

>>158995865
You have those switched around there buddy. In Super Freeza and Goku are equals in strength while in GT even when Freeza and Cell team up they can't win

>>158995420
Indeed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8EkyEZkZao

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>>158995980
Post retarded Goku's so I can expand my collection Anon

Why do Brianne fags even exist? She handy been built up at all, and yet people seem to think Vegeta will job to her, because of their 2 second fight in the OP.

It's obvious that Vegggies will job, but it's gonna be to Jiren. He'll probably fight Hit or something.

>>158995890
For 2 years in the time chamber with Vegeta, and with Whis/Beerus. It makes sense, while Super Saiyan Asspull, with a side of Spiritbomb (how'd he learn this?) doesn't make any sense.

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>>158996064
>no augment

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Goku getting Hakai or Baseball episode?

>>158996067
>in GT even when Freeza and Cell team up they can't win
against base goku

what a shitty series it was

>>158995865
At least put in effort next time, Pedro.

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BROTHER BUT HOW DO I FLY

>>158996059
Not how that works.
Goku and Vegeta trained with Whis to master Godly Ki, which directly lead onto SSB.
They did not train to use GoD-like abilities, in-fact, Goku outright rejected the notion of becoming one. Which would directly oppose the idea he would ultimately use it.
Furthermore, they train primarily with Whis, who we have never seen use Hakai.
Basically:
>SSB was built to properly with established motive
>Hakai came out of nowhere despite opposing motive and improper tutor

>>158996107
a u g m e n t

>>158996113
basedball ep

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>>158996074
What are you doing here, Karkururt?

I actually like Trunk's Super Saiyan god of Rage form.

manga has a lot of Zamasu's instead

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>>158996082
>doubting the power of love

>>158996113
Goku getting Hakai.

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>>158995930
>Son Goku
>I made his hair light blue to express how “by overcoming a certain limit he has become both strong and tranquil, able to keep his composure in a fight”.

Based Toyo

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Leave the tournament to us.

>>158996107
>no augment
Are you just retarded like most Toyocucks or are you autistically raging so hard that you've forgotten how to speak English and reverted to your native taco language?

>>158996083
>For 2 years in the time chamber with Vegeta, and with Whis/Beerus.
Cool. Show me where they were training for Mastered SSB.

If you can't, then don't compare it to FPSS1 from the Cell Saga

>>158996146
>Goku and Vegeta trained with Whis to master Godly Ki, which directly lead onto SSB.
See >>158995955
Nope they didn't show SSB faggot.

>HURR DURR it was off screen!!!
Fuck off with that asspull shit.

>>158996082
Exactly. Following that logic, Goku will have trouble with Bergamo because of the OP.

>>158996204
>no arguments

>>158996146
>Goku and Vegeta trained with Whis to master Godly Ki, which directly lead onto Hakai
Ok then.

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>>158996151
>>158996074
Leave Giren the Jrey to me

>>158995284
word filters are your friend

>>158996239
Not even a strawman, logical fallacy, or any other debating construct. Just straight up changing words.
Are Supertards all this dumb and desperate to defend their preferred flavour of shit?

Which universerses are equal to each other?

1 and 2
or
1 and 12?

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Reminder that Black and Zamasu fusing in the anime was stupid, as Merged Zamasu they lost both Future Zamasu's immortally and Black's retarded Toei Zenkai.
Black's clones were totally capable of dealing with Goku and Vegeta at the same time, and the heroes had no way of using the Mafuba again. They fucked themselves over.

It sucks that Vegeta never really gets any power up boosts like Goku's ki manipulation. Why not give Goku his Kaio-Ken, while Vegeta gets ki control. That'll at least separate them apart a bit more.

>>158996282
>1 and 12

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>>158996259
stend azide gaghagoot geehen is mine

>>158996282
6 and 7
2 and 11
1 and 12
etc

Reminder that Trunks learned spirit bomb off screen same like goku with Hakai

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>>158996272
>no argument

>>158996282
The ones that add up to 13 are pairs
1 and 12
2 and 11
3 and 10
4 and 9
5 and 8
6 and 7

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>>158995370
I remember when Majuub got KO'd with bullets. GT was almost as big a letdown as Super.

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>>158995801
Retard

> Also believing Herms is any authority on DB

Retard x 2

>>158996327
Nope Trunks hasn't even meet King Kai even once, he didn't know what was happening and it worked nothing like a regular Genki dama.

>>158996331
Is precisely what you've managed to present.
One last shot, or do you concede?

>>158996204
>no fucking arguments
Why do Toyocucks always resort to sperging out and crying?

>>158995801
>couldn't even erased base Goku
SHIT

>>158996331
>gets called out on literally changing words around to suit his point of view
>n-no argument!
Pathetic.

Why don't people think Kaulifa isn't U6 Goku again?

>>158994805
fishface
beepboop
pink elephants on parade

>>158996427
Caulifla = Goku
Cabba = Vegeta
Kale = Gohan (angery when mad, pathetic otherwise)

It's pretty clear.

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Aw yiss motherfuckin BLOCKS

Wait in the manga, if Trunks got the dance, does that mean he can go Mystic?

>>158996298
my headcanon is despite being smaller vegeta is the tank of the team.

He is weaker than goku but seems to take far more abuse before going down proportional to his power.

https://youtu.be/vLjuxQXAj9o?t=17s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGnFF9KdLGk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_WWahUSxmw

>>158996427
Cabba is Goku
>A upstart young willing fighter
Caulifa is Vegeta
>An overconfident haughty fighter
Kale is Broly
>A scared lesbian fighter

>>158994760
>when DBZ Vegeta called people stronger than him weak, everyone used to masturbate over it
>when Cauli called people stronger than her weak, everyone bitches at her for being a cunt

You fucking ningens.

>>158994796
I like aspects of both but can't fully commit to liking either series in their entirety.

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>>158994799
Get lost.

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Ep 97: "Poacher's attack!? Goten and Trunk's new enemies!"
Ep 98: "Goten mortally wounded!? Trunks rushes to Kami tower for a Senzu bean!"
Ep 99: "Goten's Revenge! Super powered poachers reveal unthinkable power!"
Ep 100: "Fusion time! Gotenks unleashed at last! But the poachers still have a powerful creature!"
Ep 101: "SSJ3 Gotenks not even a match!? Where do the poachers get their power?"
Ep 102: "Gotenks injured AGAIN! Quick, alert Bulma! Poachers viciously search to eradicate their enemies!"
Ep 103: "Bulma's new plan! You want Gotenks to use THAT!?"
Ep 104: "The first success! Gotenks destroys a poacher camp but more await. More spaceships inbound!?"
Ep 105: "Poacher reinforcements from space! Gotenk's new powerful attack. A destructive killing spree!?"
Ep 106: "Quick Bulma, get those animals into a capsule before the island is destroyed! Yamcha's desperate plea."
Ep 107: "Quick, everyone to Buu! Use the new device to wake him up! Gotenk's and Buu fight together!"
Ep 108: "The end of Yamcha!? Gotenk's and Buu attack the poacher's together! Come on Buu, this isn't a game!"
Ep 109: "Poacher's last gambit! How is that much power possible!? Quick Buu, use your special power!"
Ep 110: "Tournament of power begins!"

I may have been a slight bit off with a word or two here and there.

>>158994848
Posted the only good part of GT

>>158996470
More importantly, doesn't it mean that Jobhan can heal?

>gets a new form
>beats some other jobber
>gets beat by Jiren
>goku and vegeta also get beat by Jiren
>jobhan has to heal one (or both) of them
>jobhan gets eliminated

Why is the Yardrat on U2's team? What's even the point of linked universes, then?

>>158996470
They were two separate rituals. The potential unlocking ritual, which old kai learned from fusing with the witch; and the apprenticeship ritual, which is standard for all kais. Shin made Trunks his apprentice, but didn't unlock his potential.

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>>158996320

>>158996537
Does Cell's/Zamasu's (angry, giant) form have a name?

>>158996576
>toyocucks honestly believe infinite zamasu copies is better than eldritch horror giygas Zamasu

>>158996586
And Super Saiyan 4.

>>158996594
Helles stole the Yardrat

>>158996470
why the hell do people keep asking that

even if they might confuse the rituals we were given a very clear scene in which Trunks didnt break the sword to free the Elder Kai which is the reason Gohan got mystic in the first place.

>>158994838
>Battle of Gods Arc: Everyone loses to Beerus. Goku does more than everyone else at the end, but still gets beaten.
>Resurrection of F Arc: Humans + Piccolo and Gohan hold off Frieza's army of losers. Goku and Piccolo beat up Frieza. Goku gets the kill, though, because Vegeta isn't allowed to have nice things.
>Universe 6 Arc: Goku beats the weakest member of the team, while Vegeta beats everyone except Hit. Buu fucks around, and Piccolo loses because Piccolo isn't allowed to have nice things. Monaka "defeats" Hit.
>Future Trunks Arc: Literally everyone involved in the arc gets beaten by Zamasu and Black. Ultimately, Trunks kills Zamasu, but not really. Then Zeno kills everyone.

Goku hasn't done much of anything in Super, you ningen.

>>158996601
SAAAAAAN GOOOUUUKEEEH!!!

>>158996601
Cell's giant form is just his max power form, like the ones Roshi and Trunks used. It greatly increases the users power but they get slow as fuck.

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>>158996634
> Toei episode copying Toei movie
Wew

>>158996665
>why the hell do people keep asking that
Because this fanbase has a lot of retards, hence why people defend the anime.

>>158996570
kek

Serious talk, though, I wouldn't mind a filler episode after the ToP where Gotenks and Buu team up to fight someone.

>>158996586
Pan's the only good part of GT?

>>158996726
Gotenk's an Buu never fought together right? I mean, I know they fought against each other but I don't recall a time they fought together against someone.

Could be a good filler ep honestly.

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>>158996464
Aw yiss motherfucking SUSANOO

>>158996464
>Either black uses super strength like an actual dragon ball villain or he's a chuuni who borrows attacks from final fairy art re:ruto
Truely something to aspire to.

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Is Toriyama really Toyotaro's mentor?

Does he actually train and teach Toyotaro?

Or does he just "approve" things and makes certain corrections when he feels like it?

>>158994706
>"18, your daughter and your husband's monastery will be erased from existence if you don't participate."
>"Pay me, bitches."

Are we sure Frieza is the villain here? At least he doesn't give a shit because he has no attachments to anyone alive.

>>158994987
Mr. Satan was the hero of the Buu Saga

>>158996745
How badly would Cabba get raped?

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>PLEASE EVERYONE LEND ME YOUR POWER!

>>158996801
>not shown in the Xenoverse 2 trailer
Fucking Dimps

>>158996809
Toriyama probably gives him pointers on certain panels and how to draw stuff but mostly leaves him to his own devices

people who act like the manga is the word of God as passed down to the prophet Toyo are delusional

>>158996784
Nope. I don't even recall Goten and Trunks ever interacting with Buu in Super, but admittedly I tend to skip some episodes.

>>158996819
>Kale thinks Cabba has a thing for Cauli
>transforms
>Cauli finds Cabba later with a broken pelvis

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>>158996859
>Even Dimps knows it's stupid.
Top kek

>>158994805
Fish bodybuilder
Tails as an adult
Cleopatra

>>158996740
Yes

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Fucking calling it now, Tien will tri beam to hold Toppo or Jiren back like with Cell. It will reuse poses from pic related for the sake of nostalgia. It will also be the only noteworthy thing he does before getting knocked out.

>>158996882
>Zamasu was Sasuke the whole time

I'd believe it.

>>158995728
She has a fatter form

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>>158996835

>>158996816
>meme character becomes the hero while piccolo and the humans get shit on
more proof that buu saga is dogshit

>>158996924
>her final form is THICC
>THICCfags lose their shit

wew

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>>158996954
Jiren's form is much superior to that of Dabura.

What a slacker.

>>158996705
Holy kek

>>158996835
So on top of SSJRAGE, Trunks got enough power from beaten and tired Goku and Vegeta, mookie and that other kid and probably less then 1000 people on earth to massively fly past the difference between him and Merged Zamasu who was just before tanking and fighting Vegito.
Why the fuck did they need the whole earth for a spirit bomb when 1000 fatigued and malnourished people can give this much power
This was enough to overpower Zamasu. I kind of doubt how

>>158996636
It's certainly less of a retarded asspull.

>>158996505
>POWER IS GREAT...DIVINE WRATH
Merged Zamasu's voice should stay in the dub
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1kbA1Edjrk

>>158995332
She's perfect.

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>>158996753

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ssj

>>158996705
>literal spic screenshot and translation
wew

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Where was the lead up to SSBKK?
There was no scenes of Goku training, or trying Kaioken leading up to the U6vU7 tournament, nor had there been any mention of kaioken at all in Super.
How is SSBKK not the first great asspull of DBS?

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How bad will he job? Will he at least beat a redshirt or two before hand? Is a Goku rematch even possible?

>>158997042
I want to grab meats meat

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Will they ever bring Hatchiyak back?

>>158995332

Brianneposting is wonderful.

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>>158997042
You're making it really hard not to spill my pasta, Anon.

I have to go in like 5 minutes. Don't make me do it.

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I personally preferred Black's demeanor in the anime.

Definitely one of my favorite DB villains

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>>158997048
Leave Hit to me

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>>158997096

>>158997096
I want him in FighterZ, or Xenoverse 3 or whatever DB game is next

>>158997096
yes

in video games

Based on the 97 pv it seems that Jiren fighting against somebody from U2 (Helles shocked face).

>>158997048
Maybe he'll fight against Gohan and Piccolo. Hit's a previous arc villain, so he could at least be used to give the other characters a significant win.

Though, it'd be really neat if U6 and U7 teamed up temporarily to fight another universe.

>>158996924
Even fatter then the one we have seen? Does she just become Jenemba?

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>>158997046
Also this

Goku and Old Kai claim that he was unable to use the Kaio-ken with his normal Super Saiyan form due to the intense emotional turmoil/body stress caused by the Super Saiyan transformation, and attempting to combine the two would mean immediate death. However this creates a plot hole somewhat, as when training for Cell in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, Goku trained with Gohan to remove the emotional upheaval and stress present with the Super Saiyan transformation. Thus in theory, Goku should be capable of using Kaio-Ken while in his normal Super Saiyan state.

and this

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/battle-gods-animanga-akira-toriyama/
>if Beerus’ strength is a 10, [Super Saiyan] God would be right about 6.
>Whis would be about a 15.

SSB Kaioken x10 is at least 60.

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LEND ME YOUR POWER!

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>>158996835
>Dimps added the model for SSRage Trunks but he isn't playable
Amazing.

>>158997048
Hes handicapped because he cant kill in this fight.

>>158994858
ok, take it this way
it was average mortal power level
that just means that U7 has most of the powerful people on earth that are stronger than the ones that were in the previous U6 vs U7 tournament

but rest of the U6 is stronger than the rest of U7 so when we find the average U7 comes out on top

>>158997128
>Anime SSB is so shit that base mode Black is making SSB Vegeta scared
wew

>>158997156
Hit won't job against Gohan and Piccolo, that is like Freeza jobbing to Krillin.
It is an insult to the prior villain to job to secondaries.

>>158997128
>picture

Not that anime Black doesn't have a better personality, but every Dragon Ball villain hates the idea of someone being stronger than them.

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>>158997172
So...do I raise my hands up?

Because apparently Trunks can take energy without permission

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Who is going to win Dino or Magetta?

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>>158997195
Yup, Hit will job to our boy CHADgeta

>>158997195
Hit wasn't a villain, just the antagonist

>>158997195
They're fighting together, though, so it wouldn't be the same as Frieza losing a one-on-one fight. Especially since teamwork is supposed to be a big factor.

>>158994759
What part of immortal don't you get?

>>158997195
20 bucks says jiren, it's a tried and true staple of the series. let the old villain get their ass kicked to show how strong the new one is

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>>158997266
Based dubs.

>>158997273
>DESPITE MY BODY BEING DESTROYED
Pay attention dumbass, once he fused with Black he wasn't immortal anymore it got nerfed to simple regen, hence why Trunks was able to destroy his body.

>>158997258
Bad wording on my part.

>>158997263
>>158997253
Vegeta is going to job to the magical girl trio.

Also U11 seems to be bad at team work (based on the pv).
They fight solo against fighters from 4 different universes.

>>158994805
Fish
Robot
Skinny Cat

>>158997297
Full page when?

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A cute!

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This theme starts playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFdEoZUZ4nw

Gohan goes ultimate gohan 2

But nah,Akira toriyama is retarded no way he would put awesome music in the series he directs

How powerful are Sayians in the grand scheme of things?

Transformations seem to be a thing that is fairly common amongst aliens and there's also plenty with weird powers, but how well do base Sayian abilities stack up against those?

SSJ2 seems to be the absolute limit you can reach without dying once and Zenkai seems to have limits as well.

Overall, without meddling from kais, gods and dragonballs, Sayian abilities don't seem that impressive if you can catch up to their base form powerlevel over time.

I mean, Zarbon's species could potentially have multiple unexplored transformations as well.
Roshi has his superform which multiplies his power to ridiculously high levels.
High enough to destroy planetary bodies with like 100 powerlevel.
Namekians have their merging technique.

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>>158997330
>A fan favorite character will job to a group of gag characters with no build up

Keep telling yourself that Briannefag

>>158997326
You are retarded. Once he was fused with black, they specifically stated that the Zamasu in him was still immortal and it was the Black side of the fusion that couldn't keep up. Immortality doesn't just magically get downgraded to regeneration "just cuz". Once their body was destroyed, Black finally died off, but Zamasu's immortal spirit remained

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>>158997363
Soon hopefully.

>>158997408
Wasn't Vegeta actually defeated by Brianne in the op?

>>158997368
God I want to fuck Bulma and Bra while Vegeta gives me a thumbs up.

>>158997469
No, he's fighting her evenly in SS1. He's not even in SS2, and she's already transformed

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>>158997407
The average saiyan was weaker that Raditz, and he was a high tier low class saiyan with a power level of 1200. Tien, Yamcha, and Krillin all surpassed that after getting trained by Kami and Mr.Popo for a year.

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>>158997490

>>158997407
Natural-born/built enemies that have been shown to be stronger than the average Saiyans:

Pretty much every enemy after the Saiyan Arc is stronger than your average Saiyan, so I don't think they're terribly special. They just have a lot of potential due to transformations.

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reminder

>>158997494
>>158997469
>>158997408
What makes you think he's going to fight her.You can see Buu in the OP aswell

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>>158997501
>high tier low class

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Rank the U3 designs:
1. Nigurisshi
1. P-man
3. Blue greyish Robot
3. Narirama
5. Scientist
5. Crab
7. White Bot
8. Green Humanoid
9. Green Bot
10. Blue Slime Human

>>158997553
yep

>>158997363
Probably never