The great debate.

>>158980975
WHY NOT BOTH

>>158980975
Both

Mari

>>158980975
Kaworu.

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>>158980975
Not much of a debate.

sayaka

>>158980975
Unfortunately Rei is hardcoded to only care for Gendo so this is not even a real choice.
Unless you like the idea of daddy eventually cucking you.

Misato

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Misato is my favorite but Asuka is a close second.

neither

>>158980975
The overrated hack who made them

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>>158980975
Always forgetting best girl

>>158980975
The one that's isn't a doormat

>>158981533
PenPen?

>>158981893
PenPen was a GUY.

>>158982451
LOL that's gay

>>158980975
neither

>>158980975
I want to take asuka and turn her into a prim and proper wife

>>158980975
I'll take the one who isn't a deranged narcissist with mommy/intimacy issues.

Been there. Nowhere near as fun as some of you spergs seem to think.

>>158980975
Why not neither.

They are both fucking cunts. Although Asuka is a Tight little puss.

>>158980975
All three of the main Eva girls are designed to appeal to beta white knights. They're all shit.

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>>158981006
Chapeau

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>>158981533
>tfw will never get drunk with her and suck on Misato's toes in the bath ;-;

Great debate? It's Asuka, but both are great in doujins. There's really no other decent anwswer.

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>>158980975
How long are you going to milk this joke?

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>>158980975
neither

>>158980975

I'll take the one that doesn't turn into pastry dough while getting molested by her father-husband

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>>158980975

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>>158981169
This.

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There can only be one choice.

>>158988616
Here comes the minority report

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>>158989105
Just saying. Happy go lucky battle Genki is a best.

USAKA

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>>158980975
Asuka for hard rough doggystyle

Rei for Passionate slow missionary

Misato for marriage

>>158990233
>implying Misato wouldnt cheat on with the first cute boy she sees

>>158980975
I don't like the way new Rei looks, I liked the original. Too much like a motherly Yui. I like both Asukas though

Rei vs Asuka is really shitty. It inspired a lot of copies and waifu wars, but the originals aren't even good girlfriend material. There is no reasonable basis.
>>158986415
Don't confuse "appeal" with "designed to appeal". It is all on the fanbase because they're dumb waifufags.

>>158987826
>shit taste
>footfag
checks out

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>>158981169
>>158988203
>>158988570
great taste.

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Rei's got the better pair but Asuka is self conscious about her size so she'd be fun to bully, and she'd try to make up for it in other ways.

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Make way, bestest best girl coming through.

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>>158993376
Official artworks are best.

>>158988140
TWENTY
YEARS

I come to /a/ every day just to shitpost in these threads

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>>158993085
He's so perfect, I love him.

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>>158980975
Soryu>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shikinami>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rei

Anyone who disagrees is a betafag.

>>158993680
Bitchy girls are horrible.

>>158981006
autism

>>158993410
>Bottom right
That's not how gravity works. I mean sure, anime has impossible breast physic all the time but I mean it's upside down for fucks sake, at least try a little.

>>158993989
Autism would be having the same argument for 20 years.

Who is best boy and why is it Gendo?

>>158993680
>Calling someone a betafag
Reminder that you chose a fucking tsundere. A woman that constantly bitches, lies, and manipulates you. That makes you the beta, good sir.

>>158994071
Because having an army of child sex slaves who are also your dead wife is awesome

>>158994072
Asuka is for betafags who want to be the beta.
Rei is for betafags who want to be an alpha but are too beta for normal women.

>>158994159
Okay, I can probably agree with this.

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Fuck off.

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>>158988616
>Genki ageless glasses cat-ism
Science has gone to far, and so my D has to, so picture related, so everyday.

>>158994071
Kaji, desu.

Every single non-pedo adult picks Misato

>>158994257
I never understood Mistyfags.

>>158994375
Misato is a womanchild, liking her makes you mentally pedophilic.

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>>158980975

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>>158994401
that's not even a little bit true at all

>>158987746
CHAPEAU DE PAILLE
CHAPEAU DE PAILLE
GOMU GOMU BANG

>>158980975
>obedient qt
>bitchy thot

I'm gonna have to go with Rei.

>>158980975
Asuka, she would be fun to talk and argue with, probably can be good in bed too.

>>158994691
Is Asuka the Confederate choice then?

>>158994820
There's no fun in arguing with her type. It's just screaming and storming out.

>>158995200
Fine for me.

>>158993410
What is this from? Asking for a mate

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>>158980975
Neither, they are all garbage.

>not realizing that Misato is truly the best girl.

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Plebs sicken me.

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Mana, not contest.

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>>158980975
Get that weak shit out of here.

>>158980975
>wanting a mega bitch cum dumpster

ill take the quite qt 3.14 thanks

>>158994257
>wonder woman
>power girl

shit taste has never been so real

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One of the best comments I ever heard in a Rei/Asuka thread is that Unit 02 is the mecha equivalent of a Ferrari.
granted said comment was bashing Unit 02 Kai as 'ruining' the appearl

>>158994257
Needs Megumin, Rikka and all the girls from K-On.

>>158994257
What's a meme waifu?

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>>158997538
Asuka having an eye patch and her robot also having an eye patch is some G Gundam shit and the NGE theme of power restrained turned into restraining it from being a dog. It's lame. Literally gimpy.

>>158995752
>>158996733
she's ugly

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>>158998387
Shut your whore face.

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>>158994317
Right? Mari's where it's at!

>>158995334
That would be the Mini Tokyo Artbook

>>158994257
>people make Azula their waifu

I refuse to believe this

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>>158999991
Azula and Asuka are both fucking nuts, yet you guys love Asuka.

>>158997974
Popular character I don't like. Fat losers pretending they aren't because they're contrarian.
>>159000223
They're also perfectionist cunts with mommy issues. Counterparts, just like Zuko is American Saucekay.

>>159000557
Azula also has disparaging nicknames for people they don't like. Just like Asuka. "filthy peasant" "zuzu" and "stupid shinji" "miss perfect"

>>158993397
typical asukafag

>>159000223
>>159000557
>>159001095
>similar names
>crazy
>huge ego
>mommy issues
>nicknames
>one of the most powerful and skilled from their series
>mental breakdown at the end
>jealous of other girls
>wear red

I never realized how similar they were

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>>158999991
She was pretty hot, pun intended.

>>158980975
I prefer Shinji or Yui.

Rei fags objectively have shit taste

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>>158980975
debate?

>>158993277
Is this photoshopped?

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>>158980975
Rei of course

Asuka is an insufferable cunt but Rei is real doll-tier and programed to love Gendo, while Misato is too slutty to be anything but a ONS. Asuka's insecurity would at least make her fun to fuck with and you could theoretically get her under control at some point.

>>158994378
Dengeki Pikachu.

>>159000223
when you look at screenshots like this, I don't see how people can think Avatar isn't anime. it's the same damn thing

>>158999991
>>159000223
>>159001095
>>159004103

Except Azula was a pure girl who was deserving of all the love she never got. Asuka was just an insufferable bitch.

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>>158994257
All waifus are meme-tier after best waifu, but none of you remember her, do you?

>>159007095
Yes, the original has a bar covering the nips.

>>159008633
Nah Asuka had every reason to be a bitch, she was stuck around people who she was objectively superior too yet got poor treatment her entire life.

Azula was just a spoiled princess psychopath who made her mother so scared that she ran away.

>>158993277
sizes are wrong.

source: groundworks of eva.

>>159008566
It's not made in Japan

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>>159004103
Reminder Azula is 14 years old, and sexier than any other Eva girl.

>>159008633
>Asuka
>Rejected by pretty much everybody she ever meets
>Only actual love interest she ever had reacts to her in a confusing manner, and she has a thing for an older man, who pretty much shunts her for being a kid, further dampening her already eviscerated pride
>She's 14, foreign, and tasked with using a giant mutant cyborg to fight apocalyptic extraterrestrials
>The extremely rare moments of praise she gets are laced with either sarcasm, patronizing, or are outright disingenuous
>Literally the entire world shitting on her, and in her last moments alive, she struggles to prove herself

>Azula
>Literally a princess who has the entire empire bowing at her feet at every given possible moment
>Her two sisters revere her when she isn't on a psychopathic tirade
>Intentionally scared off her mother and regularly threatens her brother because they are "weak", actively pushing them away
>Never once yearned for connection with anybody, only seeking to better herself and prove that she's the best by crushing others
>Her final active moments are her throwing a temper tantrum because she got beat and LITERALLY crying

Asuka wanted to prove that she was worth everybody's attention because her mother saw her as literally less than a doll that was made in her image. She was given the cold shoulder, had been legitimately taunted and insulted, and almost never praised for her actions. The rare moments where she actively receives affectations, she gets awkward and reacts explosively, but definitely likes whoever gave it to her. She's like a nega-Tsundere, starting with the superiority complex and harsh attitude, only to follow it up with affection and love (bordering on obsession). Azula is just a cunt who was told she was the best, and felt that the entire planet needed to accept it, or they will get destroyed for denying it.

>>159008912
who gives a fuck, it's all animated in korea anyway

>>158993397
Fargo is such a good show

>>159008828

Go fuck yourself, Azula was taught to be a human weapon while her brother got the attention he needed to be a human being. Poor Azula never had a chance.

>Her two sisters revere her when she isn't on a psychopathic tirade

She only has one half-sister. Also you forget how she did want affection from her parents but found out her dad used her while her mother never loved her thus setting up her breakdown.

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>>159008886
Rebuild flips their bust sizes, because being Asuka is suffering.

Rei's plugsuit was always far more flattering though. Thanks Gendo.

>>159009222

Meant to include >>159009056

>>158980975
Asuka is hotter, but she is a bitch, Rei is basically a robot, but she would be more tolerable than Asuka.

>>159008828
Her mother Ursa ran away because she and Ozai committed regicide, so Ozai could be Fire Lord and Zuko could be saved from death.

I thought I would prefer Asuka before watching NGE. She seemed cute and charming. But she's so psychotic and mouthy and straight up mean that it just turned me off. My waifu ended up being Misato

>>159009237
Mai and Ty Lee were her childhood friends, they weren't sisters. Also her mother ran away because she was wanted for treason.

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>20 fucking years this shit has been going on
>it's an absolute autistic salt mine on every fucking side (even the obscure waifus)
>this shit will probably go on for years
>there may eventually end up being serious hour long debates about who is best waifu
>all these threads, all these hours wasted, all over who the best female character is in a fucking cartoon about fighting robots
>no one will learn anything in this thread and just merely get angrier at the other side for not liking their favorite girl

>>159008828
>Nah Asuka had every reason to be a bitch, she was stuck around people who she was objectively superior too yet got poor treatment her entire life.

It is sad that you think, given that one of the main fucking points of asuka (and shinji and misato) is that she kept hurting herself with a self destructive behavior, being responsible for most of her own misery.

Enabling asuka will only result in she suffering even more.

>>159009501
Beautiful, isn't it?

>>159009501
Nobody actually gets angry, right? I always just jack off to whatever is posted while subtly hinting at my superior taste.

>>158997974
>What's a meme waifu?
A waifu that is by-the-numbers and popular, just like a meme. It's pretty self-explanatory.

>>158980975
I forgot Rei even existed half way through Eva.

>>159000557
>Popular character I don't like. Fat losers pretending they aren't because they're contrarian.
If that's what you got from that image, you have your own issues to settle.

>>159009771
Whatever, virgin.

>>159009829
Thanks.

>>159009853
No problem.

>>159009222
Azula wanted to be a human weapon, she literally forced herself down that path. Zuku got attention from others out of pity mostly because his father had no respect for him and favored Azula from even an early age.

>>159009935
>Azula wanted to be a human weapon

Wrong, her breakdown revealed she just wanted to be loved and put on a facade that brought her nothing but misery.

>>159010172
She would have been equally as miserable if her father didn't respect her, too.

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The supreme court was very clear on this issue

I've been looking for a screencap where the OP posts about Rei or Asuka being the best, someone replies that the other one in the best, and a third poster snaps and write a paragraph that says "You've been having this argument for fucking 20 years"

Been looking for it since forever

>>159010566

Not really, she was never shown love and would have most likely would have been like Zuko if she had received it.

>>159009501
I dont get mad at people having different tastes.
I get mad at people purposely misinterpreting the characters for waifu autism while endlessly shitting on everyone else and ignoring their part on the series.

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>>159009226
They also stole Rei's ass.
This is what she looked like in the original.

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>>159011057

And this is the washboard backside she got stuck with in Rebuild.

>>158994257

>elsa
>meme-fu

how dare u disrepesct my waifu like this

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>>159011057
They gave her ass to Shinji

>>158994378

Why not?

>Perfect body
>Borderline loli
>Short shorts
>Always teasing her breasts
>Tomboy

I like asuka not as a person, but as a character. She crashes and burn and suffer a lot for our amusement, and i love it. I guess im a sadist?

>>158995752
She weirds me out a little because I have her hairstyle and mole

Maybe a reverse-gender clone wouldn't be such hot stuff after all...

>>159014951

Asuka could probably be a chill girl with the right circumstances. Like in the 2nd Evangelion movie

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>>158980975

>>159011077
Its amazing how much shittier the rebuilds look despite having a hundred times the budget of NGE.

>>159015318
Thats because old cell animation > new digital.
The thicker lines and slight imperfections (like, the fence isnt a perfect straight line) make is look much better when animated.

>>158994257
>Tifa
>meme

Kill yourself.

Rei is really cute

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>>158993785
>Personally its a turn on.

>>158980975
>over 20 years later
>still "debating" this shit

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Very cute

>>158981006
Who not

arent they like 14 years old?

>>159020399
If there's grass on the field, play ball!

>>159020399
Legal in Germany, Austria, Hungary and Italy.

>>159020399
No.
Rei is probably about 7-10 years old. Or millions of years old, depending on how you want to count
Asuka is 13 for the large majority of the series.
Not a single one of them behaves according to their age, though.

>>159020816
Isn't she in the same class as Shinji?

>>158980975
Asuka, but really Misato.

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>>159020750
its not legal in germany to have sex as an adult with underage girls

>>158980975
Both are shit.

>>159020948
Both are. But rei is a clone. Most likely the fast aging infant variety

>>159009226
Why is the pic so hot?
I want to fap to it.

Yui > Mistato > Kaworu = Rei > Asuka > >>>>>> Ritstuko = Mari

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>>159021065
Yes, Shinji is best girl

>>158994257
>Robin
>meme
If any OP girl is a meme waifu it's Nami.

>>159020399
>caring about ages
As long as they don't look like children, it's fair game.

>>159020982
Try google.

>>158981178
I really hate the patch thing. Why the hell are japs in mutilation fetishism?

>>159023444
Well, i love it, think it really fits her.
Same for her bandaged look at the end of EoE
>There is virtually no doujins with eoe asuka wearing her bandages or having scars.
Suffering.

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>>159010650
Ask, anon, and ye shall receive...

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Rei a cute and best.

>>159024843
Shinji is such a fucking faggot, holy shit.

At least PenPen is baller.

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>>159025340
Shinji is best girl

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>>159008886
Asuka's chest in that scene was specifically corrected to be smaller. Your source is outdated.

You can't trust the original show for this sort of thing, because - like the heights of the EVAs - it fluctuated wildly from episode to episode. In Rebuild, for all its faults, they were able to put the time and effort into keeping things visually consistent. They made a concerted effort to keep the heights of the EVAs more consistent, and here it's clear that they also made a concerted effort to keep Asuka and Rei's boob sizes consistent. So if you're going to take any size as "correct", it should be this.

>>158980975
2.22 Rei>Asuka>Rei

>>158994071
Fuyutsuki is best boy.

>>159028175
>there are hundreds of official arts of Rei and Asuka naked
>we will never see them
It hurts

>>159028175
>>159029344
If anyone has more of this bts work pls share

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I seriously think reifags have mental issues

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>>159029790
agreed

>>158981306
Excellent taste anon, but Asuka is #1 for me.

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>>159004103
Circus girl to the left is the real hot one

>>159023046
It's only legal if you're under 18 too. Just like in many other countries. Seems to be really hard to gasp for many people on 4chan though.

>>158980975

Why do you keep making these threads when the answer is always Misato?

>>159030779
Your waifu is an alcoholic

Rei.

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>>159029427

>>159032147
More or a source, based anon

>>159032499
IIRC, they're just storyboards some anon compiled into a makeshift animation.

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>>159032580
But the storyboard looks like this.

>>159033154
Eh. Whatever was posted earlier I want more of it. Love behind the scenes stuff. The tits don't hurt either.

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>>159032147
das it mane

>>159020399
I started my lust for Rei at 14, so I'm good morally.

>>159034925
Why is she so flat

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Only one actual choice.

>>159034977
she is 13 dumby

>>159035024
>he's never heard of oppai loli
18+ Kiddo

>>159035053
>oppai loli
>being called loli
Gee anon its like the red vs blue debate.

>>159035024
I don't know where you live but most 13 year olds I see aren't flat.

>>159035108
I don't know what you meant by that statement

>>159035130
Twenty years ago people had yet to realize what their kids were drinking in their milk.

>>159035137
Lurk moar faggot

>>159035174
>>159035245
Izu took so long to fix their anatomy and I don't know why.

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>>158980975
There's no debate. One is an eldritch monster trapped in a clone of an ugly fujoshi, the other is a cute girl.

Asuka's personality speaks to me more, but they're both fiercely loyal. Come to think of it, all EVA girls are pretty good in that regard.

>>158981156
Patrician taste, my dude

>>159032580
>>159033154
They're key frames, not storyboards.

>>159030737
The age of consent in Germany is 14, as long as a person over the age of 21 does not exploit a 14- to 15-year-old person's lack of capacity for sexual self-determination, in which case a conviction of an individual over the age of 21 requires a complaint from the younger individual; being over 21 and engaging in sexual relations with a minor of that age does not constitute an offense by itself. Otherwise the age of consent is 16, although provisions protecting minors against abuse apply until the age of 18 (under Section 182(1), it is illegal to engage in sexual activity with a person under 18 "by taking advantage of an exploitative situation"

>>159035965
>does not exploit a 14- to 15-year-old person's lack of capacity for sexual self-determination
>in which case a conviction of an individual over the age of 21 requires a complaint from the younger individual
>lack of capacity for self-determination
>requires a complaint from the younger individual

My little german law-makers can't be this incompetent

>>158994257
Robin, especially pre time skip as seen in that pic, was EASILLY the best girl on OP by far. Shit wasn't even a contest. I don't care for the series anymore but still.

>>158993277

But I like them smaller though.

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>>159035353
>fiercely loyal

>>159034977
They decided to make asuka petite as fuck in the rebuilds. >>159028175
I like it.

>>159036076
She was fed up with gendo treating her like a replaceable tool. She was loyal to shinji who treated her like a real person.

She is quite similar to asuka in that regard, neither want to be a "doll".

>>159020982
It is if you're a Muslim

>>159036700
So... Its legal in Germany.

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>>158997974
A phrase made by a certain kind of people (pic related) that don't know what either of those words mean.

>>158994257
>waifu(s)
>meme

Umm... where is the like button of this post??!?

>>159036076
>Ikari-kun needs me

>>159036939
If I could press a button to kill every Youtube celebrity and talking head, I'd have broken it in two from slamming it so hard.

>>158980975

They are both great characters, and equally repable. asshole who fight over who is best are the problem.

>>158989342
>>158988616
>>158988616


Mari sue is the worse. No only is she a one note character but all of her personality traits are simply taken from original Asuka. The only worth she has is for Domming Asuka sexually. in doujins.

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so, are they going to fuck, kiss, cum or something in the next movie?

>>158993277

Is bullshit. Yopu can see in the previous nude scene that asuka is well developed with shapely tits for a 13 year-old

>>159009188

This . Along with better call saul, they are the best thing on tv right now.

>>159034246

Same but with Asuka.

>>159038399

Only if they engage in choking fetishes.

>>159000223

Azula character was never that well developed as a character as asuka though.

>>159038399
Asuka's going to smack him for being so concerned with Rei and never her, and then he'll say that he always knew she was strong enough to look out for herself.

Then she'll blush, call him baka Shinji, and smack him on the head in the crimson graveyard that used to be Tokyo-3.

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>>159038610
>>159038828
All their angst would finish if they just fucked, at least in the original that would have surely helped things.

I srsly would like to have a kiss scene of them in the new rebuild. Sort of like the one from the series but actual frenchie like in EOE.

>>159038911
>All their angst would finish if they just fucked, at least in the original that would have surely helped things.
Yeah, but that wouldn't have helped the story.

The biggest irony is that they're both pretty good for each other, they're just retarded. Someone said they're like a blind woman shouting at a deaf man.

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>>159038399
Or something.

>>159037916
Want me to post the one with cum on their butts?

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Does anyone else want to see an AU where Toji doesn't get fucked up and Hikari and Kensuke join NERV?

>>159038911
They both are afraid of intimating with people and opening their hearts. I think it would have been more likely for Shinji to have sex with Misato rather than with Asuka or Rei.

But, in any case, sex and love are far from being a panacea in Evangelion. Just see Misato and her behaviour: she's kind of broken.

>>159039042
>pretty good for each other
Until Shinji proves to be utterly unable to help Asuka, and she proves to have very poor social skills.
Thus, they end up becoming completely incompatible (toxic or poisonous, some say) for each other, although, as you said, there could have been a minimum of hope if things went diffrently.

By the way, your comparison of them with a blind woman and a deaf man is absolutely great.

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>>159039348
There's nothing of Kensuke, but in Anima, Hikari does form part of NERV.

>>159038399
I think we are past that. The good happy times were in 2.0
3.0 was the "kaworu episode".
4.0 will be EoE. Seele will attack, asuka will die, shinji will trigger an impact and this time it will go through completely. Instrumentality, hopefully memories returned and loop broken.

i am a dirty shipper and really want those 2 to try to be happy

>>158981006
FPBP

That said, preferably Asuka.
Rei is for autists, if not accompanied by Asuka.

>>159039700
Is Anima any good? I feel like I should read it.

>>159039655
>ey end up becoming completely incompatible (toxic or poisonous, some say
what makes you say this?

I think it was pretty simple, both wanted each other but they both where afraid of rejection, specially since shinji was insecure as fuck and didnt catch on her advances.

Oh and by the way, the scene of shinji strangling asuka happens in his fucking mind, since that is how he percieves her. If you had actually payed attention in the last two chapters of the anime then you would have noticed that.

They will be fine, after all the hedgehog dilema is solved at the end of the movie.

They're both garbage human beings not worth getting invested it..!

>>159039716
>hopefully memories returned and loop broken.
this nigga still think it's a loop and not a different work adapted for normies.

>>159039536
Acording to death and rebirth, asuka is shinjis main sexual attraction. To him, asuka is "sex", Misato is "family" and rei is "mother".

Worth saying that sex =/= love. I think that if those 2 had sex, in most situations it wouldn't really improve, only damage the situation. Perhaps in the dancing episode, when they were the closest.

One is a woman, albeit a really shitty specimen, the other is a literal Great Old One.
Smart choice is neither, but if necessary - the decision is pretty clear.

Don't put your dick in Cthulhu

Rei is the more interesting character in the first half of the anime, Asuka is the more interesting character in the second half of the anime.

>>159038911
>if they just fucked
>he doesn't think the sex scene in EOE was a flashback

>>159038399
Wouldn't that technically be shotacon?
Shinji was in a literal stasis for 15 years, while Asuka is a 30 year old woman, who didn't age due to presumably, Bardiel Shenanigans.

Come to think of it - that's a bigger gap than in a hypothetical Shinji x Misato in the original series, huh...

Finally started watching this after putting it off for literally two decades because I was always afraid it would hit too close to home.

What am I in for? Besides crippling introspective depression.

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>>159039933
>Not wanting to dick the Elder Gods
You are a joke of a man. Its humanity greatest objective to come where no one else ever came.

>>158997974
u dumb?

>>158980975
Asuka because shorts and that Saigado doujin.

>>159039897
>only damage the situation.
I dont think so.
Asuka wanted him to hold her and care for her, shinji at the same time wanted her when he was in breakdown more and even when asked what is what he desired he tought about her.

These are fucking teenagers, they need to act and live. But if they dont act and do nothing then it will be more harmful in the long run.

>>159040129
You're in for frustratingly abstruse themes, unlikable characters and animation that varies wildly in quality.

It's still the best anime ever made.

>>159040087
Physically they have the same age, but asuka has 14 more years of life experience on her back.

On the other hand, fully awakenedkaworu and rei are both billions of years old and no one bats an eye.

>>159039813
I beg to disagree, but I think you see it way too simplistically
>both wanted each other
They wanted help from actually anyone, not necessarily from each other.

> the scene of shinji strangling asuka happens in his fucking mind
That's debatable, although I also think it's his mind (some overthink it and say it's a flashback, but I don't really buy that hypothesis).
But how about the hospital scene and the beach strangulation? Those were indeed real, and even for you, a shipper, it might be difficult to justify Shinji's deeds unless you're a rapist yourself.

>They will be fine, after all the hedgehog dilema is solved at the end of the movie.
Noone says the Hedgehog's Dilemma is solved after the end. Where did you notice that? In Shinji strangling her? In Asuka staring at him with despise, or calling him disgusting? Or in the totally ambiguous and unromantic caress she gives him?

I think your vision it way too optimistic. If you actually knew something about Schopenhauer's Hedgehog's DIlemma, you would know it's the base of all human interactions, and thus, it's not something you can "solve", but it will be there as long as humans are prideful and selfish.
And in the very case of Asuka and Shinji, being two hedgehogs with long and sharp spines, and after all they've been through, I think becoming friends would be already a very happy ending for them. But anything beyond that is quite absurd, in my opinion.

(Moreover, as an Asuka fan I am, I consider nauseating how people pair her up with someone as unstable and violent as Shinji proves to be in the end. It's kind of pairing her up with a rapist or an abuser)

>>159039897
In the cut live-action sequence, Asuka and Toji fuck around the clock, but she finds the experience ultimately even more lonely than being alone.

Shinji is more to her than just a warm body.

>>159040087
I wonder if it's because the LCL. Shinji disappeared into the goo, and eventually everyone in EoE did too - maybe they partially dissolve and then reform when they leave, taking the image of themselves they had when they went in. I got the impression that Asuka and Mari had a very busy sortee schedule.

>>159040065
>he doesn't think the sex scene in EOE was a flashback
it wasnt.
That was all in shinji's head thinking about having sex with her and then thinking - or at least how he percieves her - during mid intercourse. Thus ruining his mood.

This is also shown in the train scene, where rei and asuka taking different aspects of his concience ask him stuff. Basically it is himself trying to be honest and trying to justify it to himself.

>>159040335
Proof?

>>159040129
Wont spoil you much, but its not really depressing.

Its a psychologycal drama first. The narrative is a little confusing because the series dont bother to explain you the lore or the main story. Instead, if focus on character development. Pay a lot of attention, and you will likely understand everything that matters.

Its one of the craziest rides in all of anime.

>>159040225
>shinji at the same time wanted her when he was in breakdown
And that's why she's the very last person he visits? And how do you explain the masturbation then?

To call it love or to consider it remotely romantic shows how biased and poor your shipper opinion is. I woudl call that scene "disgusting", (just like Asuka did in the end) and it shows us something essentia: for Shinji, Asuka, Rei and Misato are mere hot girls with hot bodies. It's lust not love, please learn the difference.

>>159039789
Not really, honestly. The cover drawings are quite good, though.

>>159040225
You see, my point is that if it were just pure teenager sex, it would be bad.
Shinji dont have the fortitude to maintain a relationship, and would flee at the first crisis. Asuka would feel betrayed and understand it as he was just using her body, and never was interested in her as a person. That would destroy her.

They would need to be sincere to each other and have a long talk for their relationship to work. Start slowly, instead of jumping into sex. Most important trust each other to tell their own secrets and the source of their pain. Then would be good.

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>>159040261
>But how about the hospital scene and the beach strangulation?
He tought he was still in instrumentality, because according to him the real Asuka was dead. Why do you think he started to cry? Becuase the Asuka in his mind would never have done what she did to him at the beach.
The hospital scene was to show how fucked up and desperate he was. He went to search for her when she could not reject him.

>>159040261
>think you see it way too simplistically
Asuka states that shinji wont even hold her and is frustrated becuase her advances are futile. Shinji keeps bitching about wanting Asuka to save her during EOE. I think it's pretty simple.

>>159040261
>Noone says the Hedgehog's Dilemma is solved after the end.
Shinji is hurting asuka, and asuka reaches for his warmth despite being hurt. I think that breaks it up, considering that it is the end.

She says disgusting, because she was literally gutted to dead, turned into tang, reformed and stranngled. What a better way to resume how she feels?

I think you need to re-watch things from a different perspective, and think these things from how your mind works because that's how the scenes are written.
>>159040261
>But anything beyond that is quite absurd, in my opinion.
Gainax beggs to differ with pic relateed.

I think you are just being a mysandrist. Also you clearly have never suffered a mental breakdown like shinji did, and you should thank god, cthulu or wathever it is that you believe for never happening to you.

>>159040335
>>159040386
Not him, but i think the sex scene was imagination, but the first strangling was a flashback. This scene is my favorite in the entire series.

My argument is mostly based on meta conclusion. The choking had a point on the story, was shinjis last recordation before triggering instrumentality, and was brought back in the last scene.
Sex, however, would be quite an important development and wouldn't be used only as a 3 seconds scene that is never brought back up.

>>159040567
>pic related
If all the art Gainax has released was canon, the series would be polygamic, outright gay and even pornographic, since they even released an official ecchi/H artbook with the series characters,
That image is from a calendar and doesn't prove anything. Furthermore, just look at the sky and the sea: that's not the devastaed Earth of EoE.

An anon in another thread said that only women like Asuka.

>>159040426
>>159040567
I think shinji and asukas relationship is MUCH more complex than simply "love" or "hate". They hurt each other a lot. They are both, overall, terrible human beings, they are much more similar to each other than they think and it hurts them even more.

Dont get me wrong, im not a sadistic or pessimistic person, i want them to get a happy ending and become functional people, but i think the key word is EFFORT. They will have to put a lot of effort to be happy. It isnt an easy road ahead. It isn't all solved after EoE.

>>159040654
>, but the first strangling was a flashback.
It wasnt anon, it was within his mind. Why do you think everything was mirroring the episode of the kiss scene? That was the asuka in shinji's mind and how he percieves her.

>>159040678
>Look at the sky and the sea: that's not the devastaed Earth of EoE.
EOE scene happens at night.
Sea turning blue means that life has returned to have individual forms once again.

I do think that picture summarizes what happened later on the road.

>>159040567
>The hospital scene was to show how fucked up and desperate he was.
That's it? So, almost raping a girl is that easily justifiable?

>I think it's pretty simple.
Nothing in Evangelion is that simple. Asuka does want help from Shinji, while he does want affection and understanding from everyone (not only Asuka). Asuka is in desperate need of love; Shinji is sexually frustrated. On top to that, they live together as fellow pilots, which provides them more interaction.

Love? Highly unlikely. They're 13 and 14 years olf, for God's sake.

>and asuka reaches for his warmth despite being hurt.
That's your personal interpretation of the last scene, which is legit, but it doesn't prove anything apart from you being very optimisitic and morally reprehensible, for you like to pair those two up no matter how disastreous and chaotic their relationship was.

>She says disgusting, because...
Since you like simple facts, here's one: Miyamura Yuko made up that sentence in clear reference to the hospital scene, and thus, it is aimed at Shinji and his deeds.

You may like to overthink everything and see love everywhere, but Evangelion is not Kare Kano. Evangelion is a sad story about self-acceptance, maturation, validation, and the pain of human interactions; but it's far from being a romantic series.

>>159040829
>They are both, overall, terrible human beings,
>They will have to put a lot of effort to be happy.
>It isn't all solved after EoE.

Anon, they are just angsty teenagers, when teenagers fuck for the first time with someone they love "first love" they get fucking relaxed.

Considering it's The End of the series, it's safe to assume they will be okay. Thinking otherwise would mean Anno it's just sadistic, which he wasnt. His message was clear, catapult yourself and get out there.

>>159040859
>I do think that picture summarizes what happened later on the road.
Keep living in your delusion, then.
Or even better: go to India where you can rape girls with almost complete impunity, and then marry them! Pretty much the same you want to do with Asuka, shipping her with Shinji.

>>158980975
Who cares. That is the correct answer.

>>158981246
Boku no kurojin.

>>159040961
>His message was clear, catapult yourself and get out there.
I believe his message was rather related to depression and how to escape it. And considering Anno himself fell into another depression after EoE, the ending is far from being outright optimistic.

I agree with the other anon with his idea of effort. Instrumentality is not a panacea, but a traumatic nightmare. If anything, Asuka, Shinji and the rest of EVA cas will be even crazier upon exiting LCL.
And just following Anno's example, even if Shinji rejected Instrumentality (i.e. a depressive world of fantasy), he can fall back into it in the future.

Live is not roses, and even less after Third Impact.

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>>159039789
Hive Rei is interesting, she's like one mind broadcasting to multiple bodies and they're all an aspect of her. But it's in a lame super robot picture book with pegasus Evas and progressive katanas.

>>159040859
Most instrumentality scenes are surreal as fuck. The strangling is the only one that seen strongly based on reality (and kid shinji playing in the sand box)
It also does roughly match up with their last scene together: the fight they have when he tells her about kaji being dead. Both have spilled coffee, the location is the same. I think its a continuation.

But i will be honest and say that is only what i THINK happened. I dont believe Eva has many hard truths and i cant force you to believe one of my theories.

>>158980975
Rei has bigger boobs so she wins.

>>159040961
Their behavior is a little worse than simply angsty teenagers, but i also think anno isnt sadistic and they can get better. With effort.

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>>159040899
>So, almost raping a girl is that easily justifiable?
That was not rape, he only jerked off in front of her which is different. Anyways you sound like you have a feminazi language, fuck off to /pol/

>>159040899
>Nothing in Evangelion is that simple.
It is if you understand where it is coming from, but since people are so obtuse and normies, they dont get the stand points. That's why they think it's a flashback or that it is actually happening.

>>159040899
>Asuka does want help from Shinji,
You need to watch the series again anon.
>>159040899
>Asuka is in desperate need of love;
She is in desperate need of validation, shinji in the otherhand IS desperate for love, why do you think he went for Kaworu despite him being an eldrich horror?

>>159040899
>Love? Highly unlikely. They're 13 and 14 years olf, for God's sake.
You never experienced love at that age? How pitiful of you. I guess you must be a level 30 sorcerer then.

>>159040899
>morally reprehensible
Your bias is reprehensible, you want to see more than what actually is. That's literally the hedgehogs dilema mi amigo. They are teenagers that finally got to understand each other and want each other, it's not rocket science.

>>159040899
>Yuko made up that sentence
No shit sherlock, and it still works in the context.

>>159040899
>You may like to overthink everything
You are the one over thinking things, how is it possible for you to back pedal this hard? geezz.
Didnt you say I think simplistic? You are just being biased and contrarian.
Now kindley fuck off to tumblr with your mysandrist bullshit.

>>159040965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vifYelSTlMo

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>>159041210
>Both have spilled coffee, the location is the same. I think its a continuation
I think it takes stuff from both scenes.

How Shinji wants to tell Asuka what he feels and what he need but he also sees her rejecting him because he has hurt her. Even he says it to Misato in EOE "I did something awful to Asuka"

>>159041120
>the ending is far from being outright optimistic.
I think it was for EOE but not for Anno. How many times have one decided to move on and feel a moment of better self, before descending into depression?

You need to have been there to understand it.

>>159040899
>That's it? So, almost raping a girl is that easily justifiable?
No, it is not, but you are acting like asuka is without flaws and never did fucked up things.
Is she gloating over shinjis "death" halfway the series easily justifiable? Is she smiling, laughing and giving some really maniacal stares while she slaughtered a bunch of soldiers easily justifiable? Im not talking about the fact that she did it in self defense, im talking about the fact that she clearly enjoyed killing others.
They are 2 nutcases in extreme situations. Demanding them to justify themselves wont work. If they cant learn to forgive and control their insanity, they wont ever be happy.

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Some of the opinions ITT
>the End of Evangelion is optimistic
Here we have to look at the first drafts where Shinji ends up on the beach alone realizing he'll never meet his friends again but still deciding to live on. Before that, his conversation with Rei is much more depressing with him stating that there's nothing good for him in the real world and that he'll probably never find happiness, but he still must come back, because no matter how hard it is to exist, it's nonetheless important to. So the ending was supposed to be about LIVING with depression and accepting suffering of existence, there wasn't any optimism in it. Anno-san was still depressed after finishing the series, he tried to project himself on Shinji and through his acceptance of suffering and hopelessness convince himself to do the same. This ending was much more powerful than what we got in the end, I think.
>is there any actual optimism in One More Final?
Now, what we see in this scene, which is the greatest thing about this whole franchise, is the representation of love and hate: the struggle of human relationships. For a depressed person any interaction with outsiders is disgusting, it brings pain and suffering. In this scene the act of love (caress) lies between two acts of hatred (choking and disdain), much like it's said that there's no good without evil. This is a representation of a phrase about how humans tend to hurt each other, but sometimes they choose not to, and those moments are what makes our existence somehow bearable. Shinji and Asuka will hurt each other a lot and we'll never know how often will they show love to each other, how disgusting will their interactions be, we can only hope for them to one day understand the words "love" and "hope", as much as it seems impossible to. Something like that.

>>159041210
>and kid shinji playing in the sand box
That was on a stage surrounded by folding chairs, he had dolls talking to him until they had to leave with their mom; a mannequin with Misato's hair. Like I'm sure it's representative of baby Shinji's experiences and bridging to his more recent losses and isolation and all that but that was hella abstract.

>>158980975
Is Retake any good?

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>>159041763

>>159041763
>Here we have to look at the first drafts
Discarded ideas are just that, discarded ideas. But even is asuka never came back, even if only other random people would return, shinjis decision of coming back despite everything is a little optimistic by itself. Accepting reality and pushing on, to at least TRY to be happy is an important message, even if you can ultimately fail.

About your interpretation of One More Final, i guess it is right. Will they ever understand hope and stop hurting each other? Maybe, maybe not. I think the act of trying is more important, and the most likely to bring good results.

>>159041959
I didnt express myself. The scene itself was abstract (he was also building an NERV sand castle), but yeah, a representative of a experience with a lot of "placeholders" for forgotten memories.

>>159041963
Overly dramatic, but the delivery is good, i guess.
Characterization is close to the original than your average doujin but still a little off.
A couple asspulls that are somewhat justified in the setting.
Reminds me a lot of the Rebuilds.
I guess if you want some more Eva, go for it.

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>>159042065
what the fuck is that art style...

>>159041963
No, but vengeful ghost Asuka is a silver lining.

>>159042065
God, there is something really off with this asuka. I think its her chin being even more pointier than usual, but i might be wrong.

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>>159042175
Anon it was literally a representation of what happened in the series.
He found people to work on something together but at the end of the day he was left alone, abandoned like he was when he was a kid.

Continuing to build something before being mad, mirroring the scene where he got pissed off and stormed NERV's HQ with the EVA.
Only to later on regret because of how desperate and pathetic he was.

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>>159042426

>>158990233
>Misato for marriage

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>>159042381
>>159042426
It's one of the more tame things Meguro has drawn of Asuka.

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>>159042793
lewd

>>159042793
Post the Penpen one.

>>159042477
The art style still looks a little off.
>>159042793
Now at least the offsetting thing in the image isn't the art style.
Also whats wrong with her stomach being so prominent. Is she preggo?

>>159042825
I will never not laugh about how a /pol/ meme got some jew to study eva and get offended by Seele.

Given the OP, im surprised that the last 50 or so posts actually managed to generate some decent discussion.
Hell, im surprised the thread didnt became just an autistic vulgar shit-slinging competition.

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>>159043142
kek

>>159043142
In what context would anyone conceptualize such image?

>>158981006
THE ABSOLUTE MAD MAN

>>158980975
normalfags: asuka
true patricians: rei

>>159043142
Because it's Meguro's best.

>>159043142
What? I...
What is even going on in that image? What chain of events would let to that?

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Strangely, he's has the best interpretation of an adult Asuka anywhere.

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>>159043797

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>>159042793
>>159043142
>spoonfeeding newfags
Enjoy the ban kid. This thread is just full of underaged like you. It makes me so glad to see bans handed out.

>>159043462
Meguro is okay but every newfag rides his dick along with Kimagabuchi because you're mouthbreathing poseur trash who don't follow any other artists outside of Izurumi, maybe, and the occasional Redrop mention.

Fuck I hate the new userbase.

>>159043462
>>159044054
And I should mention, you fucking shitskin, that only a minority of Meg's pictures are okay. Anway go outside and get shot because if you haven't learned proper English by the age of 18 you really don't belong here.

>Meguro
>good
maybe if you're a degenerate

>>159044114
He's one of a handful that newfags always chirp about because they have no actual passion and don't seek out other artists.

>>159043797
Also it's clear by their diction that they're ESL shitskins so I'm not surprised in the least. An elipses abuser too. Total newfag guttertrash.

>>159044013
>Enjoy the ban kid.
Eh, I need a life off 4chan anyway.

Never been banned for censoring things before though.

>>159044175
>eh
>i need a life :(
Fuck right off back where you came from.

>>159044013
You know that simply posting lewds isnt even spoonfeeding. Anyone can go to a booru and search for asuka + penpen + name of the artist.
The point of him posting it was just to get a reaction.