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Y'ALL NIGGAS READY FOR BASED TRIGGER TO SAVE ANIME ONCE AGAIN?

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Y'ALL NIGGAS READY FOR BASED TRIGGER TO SAVE ANIME ONCE AGAIN?
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im so fucking ready
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Where is yoh yoshinari and why is he not doing autographs?
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It's going to be a harem anime centered around inferno cop, mark my words.
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>>158979312
inferno cop S2 already got announced my man
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>>158979207
Little Witch Academia Season 2
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>>158979323
Do you doubt my prediction ability?
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>>158979366
Well shit
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>>158979207
what time zone?
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It's gonna be fujoshit, mark my words.
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>>158979366
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>>158979207
I hope it does it.
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>>158979207
hopefully it will another show like Inferno Cop or Luluco.
if it's a full show won't bother watching since Trigger sucks ass at them
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Let's hope they make another nice thing
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>>158979207
God triggerfags like you need to die, honestly one of the worst ways to reveal your newfag power level
>muh western influence XD
>muh whimsical plots EGGSDEE

I don't even mind imaishi or yoshinari, but muh "ironic tumblr weeb vaporwave and anime are cool right guys XD" trigger shills need to fuck off
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>>158979520
>triggered by trigger
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>>158979520
>I AM SILLY
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>>158979399
AST
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>>158979259
Where can you check for whos doing autographs?
Would kill for a LWA doodle from Yoh.
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>>158979207
TTGL prequel
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>>158979399
pacific time, anime expo is in los angeles
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>>158979520
What about people who unironically like irony in a non-satirical sense, but from the outside seem ironic?
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>>158979430
It was said that around 60% of Trigger's staff was working on Little Witch Academia. What could be the reason for that number if not some big show being in the works?
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>>158979207
I sure am excited what Go Nagai show imaishi will rip off next.
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>>158980175
*Excited to see, damn.
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>>158980175
Cry more, edgyman
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>>158979520
Claiming trigger fans arent just old gainax fans. Kill urself newfag.
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>>158979207
Kill la Kill was mediocre garbage that didn't save anything
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>>158979207
Mods are not gonna ban the ax threads right?
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>>158983064
True. Trigger is yet to produce a single great show.
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>>158983096
Why would they? It's gonna be about anime announcements.
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>>158983064
Take that back
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>>158979366
checked
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>>158979207
So finally officially announcing their collaboration with Yamakan? Nice.
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>>158979590
Kiznaiver sequel
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>Sucymom - The animation (25 eps.)
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>>158983064
Their shows are always so flawed but I still end up enjoying them a lot
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>>158983022
I'm a schoolteacher. Trust me, they aren't all old gainax fans. The fast majority of them are normalfags and newfags.

I hate what this place has become. Fucking newfags like>>158983096 need to lurk way more.
We used to have AX threads all the time. We'd make fun of the shitty cosplayers every year, the nico booth stream threads used to be a staple here.
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>>158986933
Wait, are there people still in denial about the fact that 99% of the Trigger fanbase is composed by /v/ crossboarders?
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>>158986971
never underestimate the stupidity of people on this board.
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>>158986933
aww i miss those. Did niconico.com flop or something.
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>>158979207
Kill la Kill Season 2
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Trigger is shit
>>158987663
"no"
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Still waiting for them to save it for the first time
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>>158979520
Am I also a newfag for liking a bunch of gainax shows?

Fuck off with your autism back to your fantasy anime threads
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>>158979207
Kiznaiver 2 when?
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>>158979207
>Imaishi will never make something as good as PSG ever again
2bh not holding my breath on his next anime
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>>158986933
How is being a school teacher relevant to this post? Do you teach the history anime blogging?
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>>158984329
I would kill for this, so many questions and potential could be milked. I wanna at least see based hisomu again.
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GET ACTUAL WRITERS FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

Still very hyped.
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>>158979207
So what are the chances it's an original show rather than an adaptation? Would a "new project" only be referring to a new series rather than a sequel to previous one?
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>>158987164
yup, they had to shut down. Sad times. the emcee was great
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>>158987894
>PSG
>Good
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Little Witch Academia movie trilogy
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>FLCL 2 PV
>Trigger announcement
Any thing else I need to look out for here?
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I really hope it's an original but I can't see it happening. I imagine LWA took a lot of their time up.
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INNOU
BATTLE
S2
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>>158988325
Only 60% of Trigger were working on LWA.
They'll show a teaser for an original that will air Winter 2018 probably.
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>>158984329
>>158979590
PSG sequel

But no, seriously, 2 cour Hoshi no Samidare, OST by The Pillows.
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>>158988334
Honestly I wouldn't be opposed to trigger doing adaptations if they chose ones that were high quality/unusual.
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>>158979207

Dirty Pair remake or reboot

Double digits confirm
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>>158988194
jej
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PaS Season 2 Dubs if true
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Jesus I didn't know so many people hated Trigger...
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>>158988422
Gainax owns it though
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Why do kyoani fans butts hurt everytime trigger save anime?
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Kiznaiver S2
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>>158988463
Because all kyoani does now is movies
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>>158988436
They aren't people, they are summerfags trying desperately to fit in.
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>>158988474
>Kiznaiver S2
Why this shit is so cancerous?
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>>158988474
it sold like shit, no chance
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>>158988442
They will make it happen. Dubs make me right.
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>>158988442
Not for long, soon they'll be bankrupt.
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>>158988503
Says the /v/edditor. Why don't you go back to your board? People simply dislike bad things, it's that easy.
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>>158988648
They make some of the most distinct anime at the moment, so enlighten me on how "bad" they are
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>>158988517
>Mari Okada
>other than outliers like AnoHana and times her garbage has been saved by legends like 0048 by Kawamori, ever not cancerous
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>>158988700
>distinct anime
They don't. Imaishi has been recycling the same concept since 2007. It's grown stale and it's time to let go.
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>>158988377
All praise the hypnobutt
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>>158979207
LWA was pretty meh for me, animation was fine but the overall tone of the thing got me around episode 14 and I lost interest. Still has other strenghts, but not for me.

Still fucking HYPED for this.
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>>158988787

I'm actually pretty curious how Kei and Yuri would look with Trigger's art style. I'd actually think it would be pretty cool honestly.

Miyuki Sawashirou as Yuri
Ami Koshimizu as Kei
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I don't see any updates on the anime expo site
are they having their panel or what?

>interested because I'm attending this year
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wake me up when they announce anything about that mecha show they promised us they were "working" on like 4 years ago
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>>158979366
witnessed
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>>158988372
>Hoshi no Samidare
shit is boring yo
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i like studio trigger more than studio kyoani
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>>158979366
checked
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>>158989995
ok
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>>158989973
Say that to my face and not online motherfucker
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>>158979207
what shows are they gonna announce?
>inb4 LN adaptions
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>>158990221
they don't do LN adaptations if you didn't get it until now
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>>158990297
>innou battle
>25% of the shows they've made
Retard.
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>>158990297
What is Inoue Battle and Ninja Slayer shitposter?
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>>158990062
no you don't get it
i REALLY like studio trigger more than studio kyoani
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>>158990297
>what is Inou Battle
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>>158990350
Yes I do get it. Here's another (You).
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>Announcing new shows at a western convention
And they insist that their anime isn't made for the west.
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>>158987913
He's part of the schools anime club
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>>158990349
>>158990362
Ninja slayer is an american comic and no one gives two shits about innou battle
Everyone knows Imiashi is doing another original, the man has principles
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>>158990445
>they don't do LN adaptations
>t-that one d-doesn't count!
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>>158990513
it is literally a side job, do you really thing imaishi and yoshi are going to do a LN adaptation? oh my jesus
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>>158979590
Why would they need to remake Diebuster?
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>>158990445
>implying Trigger wasn't heavily invested in Inou Battle, specially Grateful Robber
As if you hadn't seen all the animators' twitters.

Also, even if Imaishi didn't like doing adaptations, which I doubt because he went so low he even did a Mari Okada show, he's not all there is to Trigger. There's also Ootsuka.

Speaking of Ootsuka, Turning Girls s2 with a new cake replacing yellow when?

But yeah, what >>158990513 said
>>they don't do LN adaptations
>1/4th of the full shows they've made are LN adaptations
>>it doesn't count because, just because!
Retard.
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Enlighten me again why people hate Trigger. Is is the fanbase? Is it because the shows are different from common modern anime? I bet if Trigger had never become popular /a/ would fellate them to no end as an incredible obscure anime studio doing different things, and it did until Kill la Kill made them popular.
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MORE TRIGGER FLOPS YES
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>>158988787
Soup, please!
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>>158990806
>Is it because the shows are different from common modern anime?
Just like SHAFT, their shows may be diferent when compared to other studios, but their shit tends to follow the same pattern. Watch a Trigger show and you've seen them all.
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>>158990806
it's the usual contrarians, it's the usual hate on a single studio. Every studio has at least a contrarian.
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>>158990881
>having a distinctive style is a bad thing
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>>158990806
Little Witch Academia
Kill la Kill
Space Patrol Luluco

The fanbases are cancer and all of them shit up /a/, seriously, go look at those threads, they're full of crossboarding retards
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i just want more ninja slayer
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>>158990990
Not that anon, but it's not a distinctive style. If anything, that's something I deem praiseworthy. It's the latter part of what Anon said which is especially true: watch one Trigger show and you've seen them all.
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>>158990806
Triggerfags can be annoying. There's a bunch of faggots that are obviously from /v/ and come here to "hype" Trigger shows because they want the next Gurren Lagann.
This was specially noticeable with Kill la Kill the board was flooded with 20 threads everytime a new episode aired.
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>>158991047
I'll take that over generals any day.
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>>158990806
success breeds jealousy
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>>158991035
Uh

did you mean to post with that picture?
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>>158991082
>Success
>Literally every Trigger show except KLK has flopped
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>>158991041
>inferno cop gets a season 2
>ninja slayer doesn't
this is bullshit
ninja slayer was inferno cop but better
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>>158990881
You can honestly get mad about that when there are hundreds of anime made by different studios that are barely different from each other? Each trigger show is still more varied than almost every other anime being made right now. If you think having a similar style makes an anime unwatchable, you wouldn't get very far before dropping all anime forever.
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>>158988524
[citation needed]
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>>158991113
>only money matters
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>>158990806
Idiots just wanna hate things. I never really got all the studio hate.
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>>158991204
http://dvdbd.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/%E3%82%AD%E3%82%BA%E3%83%8A%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC
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>>158990806
1. They have yet to make a good anime since they left Gainax.

2. Fanbase. Seeing the fanbase scramble to excuse trigger liking anime tiddies was hilarious and sad.
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>>158990806
They have continued to disappoint despite supposedly being the successors to Gainax. The fact that they pander to the west and have a fanbase made largely out of /v/ crossboarders here doesn't help.
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>>158991250
Is something wrong with anime tiddies?
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>>158991191
>tu quoque
Solid argument triggerfag.
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>>158991331
Stop watching anime then, you clearly hate shows being very similar.
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>>158991389
I hate shows being basically the same sans a few modifications. Thank God Trigger is a drop in an ocean, and there's a lot of variety within the medium. Ah, indeed, the thief believes everybody steals.
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I like Trigger shows. Sorry.
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>>158991432
variety
aka generic moeshit from the season
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>>158991432
Everybody does steal because for any creature of set of systems to have enough energy to exist, it must take from something else without returning the balance. Someone who thinks he doesn't steal because he does everything in line with the local law is just a shortsighted idiot. Life is stealing, only a dead thing does not steal.

But, yeah, I see your point.
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>>158979207
Implying anyone would care about Trigger on AnimeExpo, when KyoAni presents first episode of Violet Evergarden there

Its like DC releasing new movie at same time new Avengers are in cinema.
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>>158991490
>moeshit
As if we needed further proof that Trigger is /v/'s studio
>>158991516
And I see yours. I guess I'll have to adapt the adage to make sense in context as well.
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>>158991524
Still making that thread huh?
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Hating stuff because of it's fanbase is retarded..
Else Kyoani are the worst studio ever because of the retarded circlejerking fanbase that go around trying to provoke studio shitposting wars. Like this guy >>158991524
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trigger literally just copy paste old ideas with a new shine to appeal to dumb niwakas

team them up with urobutcher to be the ultimate hacks best at stealing other peoples works
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>>158990390
thank you but you do not understand
i would personally murder everyone involved with studio kyoani if it meant studio trigger could continue making shows for the next 100 years
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>>158991574
>implying Kyoani aren't the worst studio ever
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>if you like x, you are "bad thing"
Remider that this is retarded
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>>158991550
>muh /v/ boogeyman
why do you get so triggered by trigger? why do you care so much? no one here is going to stop watching their shows because of you, the board will be filled with threads about the new imaishi show, just like in 2007, 2010 and 2013 and there's nothing you can do to stop it
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>>158991574
Difference between KyoAni, Trigger and other studios circlejerks is the key though. KyoAni just happens to be the objectively best studio with ability to back up that claim, while the rest are just the insecure fans trying to prope their "favorite" studios knowing they are not in the same league thus pretending they care about different qualities - in particular Shaft and Trigger fags being there for being "different than others" like teenage girls wearing goth make up
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>>158991676
>objectively
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>>158991676
This.
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>>158991676
Thanks for proving my point about the circlejerking , Kyoanustard.
I'll just say I can perfecly claim Trigger are the objectively best studio and deserve the circlejerk.
And I'll be as right as you are
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>>158991676
>objectively
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>>158991676
>being a studiofag
>2017

Lurk for a few more years.
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>>158991574
To be fair Kyoani have made good anime.

Trigger have unfunny meme garbage tier shit like Ninja Slayer/Inferno Cop. We gotta feed over families LN adaption/Okada script. And then the earnist attempts at recapturing their former glory but ultimately ending in failure (Kill la Kill).
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>>158991728
>another Kyoanustard circlejerking
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>>158991709
Come back when Trigger can make something like Koe no Katachi
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>>158991796
>implying he wasn't samefagging
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>>158991790
Such an objectively good studio they haven't made anything more than a couple of minor classics. Even JC Staff has a more important history than KyoAni.
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>>158991757
No you cant, you are just delusional retard. I can tell that Sunrise objectively is a better studio than KyoAni and capable of doing MUCH grander works with better visual quality (albeit they are jews and mostly dont).

Like it or not, reality exists and its harsh. Time to face it.
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>>158986933
What, nico con threads were barely passable and eventually mods ended up banning them completely

It was only a 'staple' for 1 or 2 events
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>>158991790
Trigger anime are good to me. Now what?
>>158991798
LWA, KlK and NS>>>>sleeping pills>>>>koe no boringdramatachi
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>>158991798
You mean when Trigger butchers the source again, like Kyoani did with Koe no Katachi, Nichijou and Maidragon?
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>>158991798
so good no one remembers it
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>>158991774
I lurked here before you discovered 4chan. Back then it was KyoAni vs Gainax. Gainax died so it became KyoAni vs Shaft. Shaft is crap, so appearance of Trigger was welcome to reinstate old KyoAni vs Gainax war - but Trigger just cant compare to Gainax so its mostly KyoAni being unchallenged overlords laugthing at everyone else.
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>>158991844
Yes. And reality to me is that Trigger entertains me more, thus, they're better. There's not a single thing that appeals to everyone.
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>>158991847
Except, you know, those threads were about streams manned by Hiroyuki. As in, our Hiroshima Nagasaki.
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>>158991798
Are you still deluded enough to think Koe no Katachi was anything more than another forgettable run of the mill anime film?
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>>158991899
>delusional circlejerker posts this and thinks he's better than triggerfags
You're as shit as we are, retard
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>>158991899
>I lurked here before you discovered 4chan
No you didn't kid. I suppose some people just never grow past that casual kind of anime fandom you are stuck in then where they think you need to support studios.
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>>158991837
JC Staff is underrated, but essentially whole anime industry looks up to KyoAni - including Trigger, they openly stated they adore it and wish to become like that eventually. Its just Trigger, or particular retarded Imashi fans that hate it.

Issue with JC Staff, Madhouse, Bones etc. is that while they can do great stuff, majority of what they made is cheap crap.
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>>158991904
Except that wasn't relevant at the time and eventually banned because /a/ complained that it was normalfag shit and they weren't wrong. Nobody threw a fuss over why it was banned it just was.

Twitch is doing AX stream this year but I don't know how many people care or even if it even come close to how fun nico streams were
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>>158991957
I don't hate Kyoani. I just hate the retarded circlejerker fanbase acting like Kyoanus are gods and everyone else is shit. Like you
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>>158991862
Sorry, but no one gives Trigger any source to butcher, they dont have reputation of being able to adapt anything well at all.

Be thankfull, that ex KyoAni genious Yamakan made Trigger possible at all by forming Ultra Super Pictures and supporting Trigger and other new minor studios helping start them within that structure.
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>>158991999
There's that, yeah.
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>>158991878
>>158991855
>people that didnt watch it
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>>158992010
Bellow the belt.
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>>158991957
You can pick just about any "name brand" studio formed before the last decade that KyoAni fans think their favourite is "better" than and they will have made more memorable, classic and important works to the medium.

>Issue with JC Staff, Madhouse, Bones etc. is...
The issue with KyoAni is whilst they can do great stuff, majority of what they made is just plainly crap regardless of the visual quality.
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>>158991914
>>158992046
Personally it reinstated my trust in KyoAni which somewhat started to wane past Hyouka. They still are as glorious, if not better than the past.
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>>158992092
Overuse of post-processing for "filmic quality", sophomoric shots of random body parts and some decent animation with a tediously told story don't really impress me.
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Kyoani has good visuals, but the content of their stuff is mostly extremely bland, normalfag stuff that would be better as a live action TV series. This isn't what the animation medium is for.
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>>158992084
>The issue with KyoAni is whilst they can do great stuff, majority of what they made is just plainly crap regardless of the visual quality.
Objectively wrong.

Liking or disliking the shows of specific type is matter of personal tastes and opitions. What is not subjective is production quality - Kyoani is currently the ONLY studio that can maintain persistently high production quality for all of their shows, all episode.

NO other studio is capable of that. At best even if they go all out its few well done episodes and big dip in quality in the rest. Whats more, they are doing it with LESS resources than other studios - KyoAni shows that look better than most other studio works also mostly have less stuff working on them (excluding Nichijou)
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>>158979207
I hope it's an original mecha.
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>>158979207
>>158979259
>look at autograph pages
>no animator/director autographs listed

how the fuck do you get them? Stalk after panels and hope for the best?
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>>158992167
What is it for then? It certainly isn't for mediocre shows like Trigger's.
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>>158979207
what I don't like about this fucking studio is how they suck so bad the dick of America and western media in general
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>>158992194
High production values do not make good anime. It is something enjoyable when present but no amount of it will make a bad show good. Look at the TV shows that are considered the best ever made. One thing they do have in common is that most of them would pale in comparison to the best TV productions nowadays, yet guess which shows are going to be remembered as the all time classics? Certainly not garbage like Kyoukai no Kanata.
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>>158992315
Aside from Trigger being westaboo theres fact they are part of Yamakan "Ultra Super Pictures" - company created with intent specifically to appeal to foreign markets. And the trend applies to anime industry as whole - big part of money now comming from streaming in China etc.

Everyone tries to adapt. Even KyoAni, who intends Violet Evergarden airing worldwide in 7 languages, trying to break out of Japanese market and showing first ep of it on same Anime Expo.
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>>158991432
>I hate shows being basically the same sans a few modifications.
I don't really see how their shows are all the same.
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>>158992408
>High production values do not make good anime.
bye

Also, number of anime classics that remain relevant past their airing made by KyoAni: >10
Number of anime classics made by Trigger: 0
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lets be reaal here, the japanese market is fucking garbage nower days with the same harem, ecchi and ln shit being shat out en masse.

Even then those types rarely make any money.
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>>158992604
You really are a pathetic shitposter. State a point, make an argument to back it up and all you can say is "I'm taking my ball and going now!" instead of addressing the challenge to your viewpoint. That's what is called wilful ignorance.
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>>158992627
No, thats just Aniplex

This season alone air some shows that dont fit your discription, but you likely ignore them - preffering to watch trash you described. So consumers are to blame - you.
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>>158992486
But the whole worldwide attraction of anime is based on the fact that they don't pander to the west, and instead try their own thing.

Western 2d animation has also almost no appeal overseas, and is not even respected domestically.

So why should a successful medium imitate a failing one? Streaming in different languages is a completely different thing.
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>>158992664
You have no argument since you imply that despite high production quality KyoAni shows are bad, which they arent - as proven by number of Classics KyoAni did. People rewatch many KyoAni shows yearly, new titles added to that constantly and new people impressed by KyoAni watching through their works. Meanwhile Trigger is seasonal fire and forget studio, whose only attempt to do something worthy was LWA, which however they failed to make good movie or TV anime of.
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>>158992627
Lets be real here, the anime industry is growing like 10% yoy, fucking rocket speed for Japan.
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>>158992698
Selling to west and china, doesnt mean imitating them. (Aside Madhouse, which was pure dick sucking whore trying to get western money by making shit like multiple Marvel Anime and Gonzo which thankfully died to ressurrect after learning from mistakes and focusing on japanese cute girls and weird stuff rather than Afro Samurai etc. shit)

If you want someone to blame for making stuff appealing to west, blame Ghibli
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>>158992747
I don't imply anything. I am stating that good production values do not make good shows regardless of whatever studio they come from. Try addressing the point this time.

>It is something enjoyable when present but no amount of it will make a bad show good. Look at the TV shows that are considered the best ever made. One thing they do have in common is that most of them would pale in comparison to the best TV productions nowadays, yet guess which shows are going to be remembered as the all time classics? Certainly not garbage like Kyoukai no Kanata.
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>>158991671
>the board will be filled with threads about the new imaishi show, just like in 2007, 2010 and 2013 and there's nothing you can do to stop it
And we have crossboarders like yourself to thank for that.
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>>158991899
>he dedicates his time on /a/ defending KyoAnus against any studio that competes
>for free
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>>158992899
>It is something enjoyable when present but no amount of it will make a bad show good
Game of Thrones
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>>158992912
you're welcome
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fuck I don't feel good its like they are trying to kill anime again.
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>>158991120
fuck off, both were meme shows that appealed to the "LOL XDDD RANDOM AMIRITE" crowd.
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>>158979207
But Americans destroy anime
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>>158992960
What are you trying to say about anime?
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>>158992996
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>>158992996
That's the only thing Trigger is capable of. That, and recycling the same Imaishi show, which go hand in hand more often than not.
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>>158991250
why do tumblrinas need to overthink and dramatize things meant to be taken at face value?
i'm thankful there aren't any ugly female characters in the show, or the tumblrinas would be all over it, saying it's about being proud of yourself, no matter how much of a disgusting slob you are
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>>158992840
Are you telling me LWA isn't imitating? Like not trying to copy Hairy potty at all? Like not using a westernish artstyle?

Polygon also tried to make western shows like transformers and star wars a few years ago, except they realised the western market for tv cartoons is actually tiny.
So they went back and started adapting shows like Ajin and Blame, and then signed deals with Netflix, this is an example of selling not imitating.
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>>158993036
What are you trying to say about Trigger? Since none of its shows are actually decent enougth to be compared to good TV shows or even be called good anime - script, story and direction wise they are all a mess. Triggers appeal is exactly its visual style and nothing else - compensating for at times poor animation and lack of ability to make interesting story.

LWA is the same - its only appeal is superficial visual style and sparse sakuga, with zero substace and boring story.

In fact, i have to congradulate Trigger that they actually dared to make a step from that rabid vapidness of themselves and did Kiznaiver - inviting capable writing and showcasing good direction: though it was still a mess.

So when you imply KyoAni shows are bad, who do you compare them to? Since in pretty much every genre KyoAni shows did - they are top of the game when compared to direct concurents in same genres.
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jesus kyoniggers are truly scum, holy molly

Literally stop having fun!!!: the fanbase
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>>158993181
LWA imitates Tweeny Witches, Japanese work.
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>>158993200
I'm not saying anything about trigger. I'm saying that high production values do not make good anime. Try actually addressing the point. I know its hard for you.

Look at the TV shows that are considered the best ever made. One thing they do have in common is that most of them would pale in comparison to the best TV productions nowadays, yet guess which shows are going to be remembered as the all time classics? Certainly not garbage like Kyoukai no Kanata.
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I'd like to see Trigger do mecha again desu. Bonus points for a super serious warstory.
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Bold prediction:

Trigger's take on Isekai
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>>158990806
Since when has Trigger become popular?

And no, I'm not a hater.
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>>158993320
>Bold prediction:
>Trigger's take on Isekai
I think they will create a fujoshi friendly show this time to earn a bit of money for next projects.

I rather can't see Trigger doing Idol show to go for waifufag money.
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>>158991676
>>158991790
Kyoani never made a masterpiece anime. Their best anime is probably Harui. Even JC staff made some.

They animate well, not amazingly, and are constant. That's it.
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>>158993164
>why do tumblrinas need to overthink and dramatize things meant to be taken at face value?
Because they take useless humanities courses that are even more useless than the usual humanities courses, and they learn critical theory in them, a course made by marxists, meant to make those who who are being indoctrinated in its bullshit overthink.
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>>158993236
Reposting your pasta would not make you make more sense.

Majority of "classic" TV shows are actually shit by modern standards, and which arent are prominent due to good script and acting. "Production Quality" contains not just the number of special effects, but exactly that too - script and acting. In anime case: script, direction, cinematography, "acting" in this case being animation. And KyoAni "acting" is superb, not because of show off sakuga like Bones for example, but exactly because made by proffessionals able to showcase character and emotions with detailed touches and nuances: which most others, doing flapping mouths and cardbord cutouts frames cant.

Once again, KyoAni has innumerable Classics and their pedigree pretty much makes everything they make relevant by attracting new fans that watch throught their past works.

Even the Kyoukai no Kanata, which failed utterly as TV show, as story wasnt very engaging until you had full comprehention of it- is actually a very good product as package: oav +tv+ movie. Well directed, VERY good animated and not aging - remaining relevant in future too.

You call KnK garbage, but your favorite studio doesnt even have works compared to it. Even if aired now, or in few years in the future - itll be better than most.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF7ZMou6TdI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpOAAD7m_AU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkvsqKaRtY0

Trigger DREAMS they would be able one day to make anime like KnK
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>>158993530
Post K-On! Kyonani's only good show is Nichijou. Everything else feels souless.
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>>158991656
No one cares about what people like, the problem arises when they start saying that the crap they like is a masterpiece, without any claim to back that up except "because I like it" or "because it's fun".
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>>158993530
>Majority of "classic" TV shows are actually shit by modern standards
That's false though. The majority of Japanese animators and critics consistently rank much older shows than the present as among the best of all time rather than modern productions. The production values you talk about are not what makes a good show. They can be part of it but that alone will never make a good show.
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>>158993181
>>158993231
Tweeny Witches, Harry Potter AND Little Witch Academia are copying The Worst Witch.

I'd actually recommend you reading it. For a children's book series, it's really fun. It was also adapted into long-running TV shows and some movies in britbongistan, back in the '90s. I'm sure the TV show aired in Japan.
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>>158993320
>>158993440
Unlike with the situation right after Kill La Kill, they seem to have secured funding for their next originals considering they've stated last year that they had their plates full for the next 3 years, and that they prefer to do originals. Ninja Slayer and Inou Battle were their safety net in case Kill la Kill bombed(it didn't) since they went nuclear on it to the point of calling every single favor they had in during the final stretch.
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>>158993477
They did 2 just last year with Hibike and Silent Voice movie.

FMP, Haruhi, Clannad, Lucky Star, K-On, Nichijuo, Hyouka, Tamako Love Story

And in two week youll see them BTFO trigger on AnimeExpo, airing Violet Evergarden, their Magnum Opus.
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>>158993440
>I think they will create a fujoshi friendly show this time to earn a bit of money for next projects.
They did that with Kiznaiver. Then this happened >>158991247
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Posting this for the nth time...

>We arent seeing anything.

>All trigger's con panels are private.

>We arent even gonna know how the projects are called.

I like trigger but, for the sake of your collective sanity, i would expect little from this, and by 'little' i mean 'NOTHING'.
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My prediction:
Cute Animals or some paranormal shit
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>>158991899
>Gainax died so it became KyoAni vs Shaft
Right, the fact that they made the most economically successfull anime ever had no weight in the process.

>so its mostly KyoAni being unchallenged overlords laugthing at everyone else.
Kyoani makes decent anime and has very constant and recognizeable art. Nothing amazing.
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I'm bored nowadays, if Triggers going to make something they better make it as crazy as Gurren Lagann.
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>>158993684
But Kiznaiver wasn't a fujoshi show, it was a lame Okada show about drama by pairing girls with boys(even the dead yuri one for fatty).

No fujoshi would like it.
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>>158991957
>Madhouse
>majority of what they made is cheap crap

Right now Madhouse is mediocre. Before Mappa they were the best studio no doubt.

Madhouse released more masterpieces in 10 years than most studious in their whole existence.
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TRIGGERNIGGERS GETTING BLOWN THE FUCK OUT ITT
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Why would I care about what Reddit: The Animation studio is about to shit out next?
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>>158993677
I'm sorry but obviously none of those is a masterpiece.
Actually Nichijou is the only one vaguely close to being a masterpiece.

If you call Hibike and Koe no Katachi masterpieces and an anime which isn't even out yet a magnum opus I can't take anything you say seriously.
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>>158993637
You obviousl dont really watch any anime. Very little is actually watchable without cringe today, and its mostly because how storytelling and target audience changed during those years.

I cant even rewatch old shows i liked two decades ago now. The prominent "classics" that are known to this day are very very few pearls in piles of unwatchable garbage and shows that didnt age well.
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>not being a studio idort
>not enjoying anime regardless of the studio
>not just enjoying things for the sake of enjoying things
I swear, you guys are the most pessmistic shitposters around.
I just enjoy what I enjoy and discuss it with others who enjoy it. I don't want to have to deaal with people who spout random bullshit that has nothing to do with the disscussion at hand.
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>Sunrise has chance to steal Trigger spotlight for this Anime Expo

Since they will announce Build Fighters S3, we will get more information on Code Geass S3 and a surprise announcement
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>>158994047
>You obviousl dont really watch any anime
And apparently neither do the most prominent artists in the industry. But what do they know compared to you?
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>>158994011
I am not taking you seriously to begin with, as arguing with idiots is just past time. Another example of your lack of any point and integrity is you calling Nichijou their only classic - while in reality the show actually failed in humor and lasting appeal, and only really standouts because of godlike animators cast going all out - all style no substance.

Meanwhile you discard all shows that arent that automatically, showing that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
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>>158993844
It was advertised as a fujo show for some reason.
I believe nobody involved in that project had any idea of what the fuck he was doing.
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>>158994047
I've watched plenty of anime from all eras of Japanese animation actually. Far more than you in all likelihood.

The top ranked TV anime ever by as voted by Japanese animators in 2003 was Future Boy Conan from 1978.
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>>158979207
That's what you faggots said about the Little Witch Academia TV show and it turned out to be a boring trainwreck. Trigger hasn't made anything watchable since Kill la Kill. You Triggerniggers are fucking delusional.
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>>158993786
>Kyoani makes decent anime 110% of times
This is what is amazing about them

The only thing that they lack is truly popular material to adapt - but they manage to make everything they touch superior regardless of that still: making huge of irrelevant K-On! 4koma, adapting unknown novel from local publisher to make AOTS warranting 2 seasons and 2 movies, create the whole damn genres and tropes other studios follow, making best TV anime of all timesin both quality and direction (Hyouka) etc.

Theres nothing amazing about KyoAni - except just about everything
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>>158994223
DAMAREEEE
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>>158993844
Okada wanted to make it fighting battle royale anime, Trigger forced her to write what they wanted differently.

Still, Kiznaiver is step in right direction - at least it HAD story and decent characterization, as well superb direction to anything Trigger did before.
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>>158994095
Code Geass S3 aka milking it the anime.
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>>158993718
how does it feel to be retarded? they still release their announcements on the internet regardless.
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>>158993878
>Before Mappa they were the best studio no doubt.
No, for all time it existed it made 10 shit shows for 1 good. Its just it did shit ton of shows, so there are many that stand out.
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>>158994294
Not wanting to interject on an argument, but I liked Kiznaiver.. I thought that it had some wonderful direction and quite the abundance of standout scenes.
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>>158993320
Delinquent anime?
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>>158993684
>heterosexuality and yuri
>for fujo
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>>158994118
If you respect japanese critics and anime stuff opinion that much, you should know that official best anime of all times named by them and universally agreed upon is Russian "Hedgehog in the Fog"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW0jvJC2rvM
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>>158988232
Look at these shit opinions
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>>158994223
Pretty much. It's because of this that Triggerniggers are one of the most hated fanbases on /a/.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12482827
>>158994261
Nah.
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>>158994356
>!Kamina living with feminine MC
>not for fujo
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>>158994443
you're really shit at shitposting because that strawpoll contradicts what you're saying.

Did you even look at your strawpoll before posting it you retard
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>>158994132
>classic
I said masterpiece.
Nichijou had more substance than any other Kyoani style.
>failed in humor and appeal
Says you. For me is the opposite.

Either you're stupid or a troll.
>>158994245
Yeah, that's what I said. Just because the standards are low it doesn't mean a superior standard is automatically amazing.
And we were only talking about the art anyway.
>>158994336
>No, for all time it existed it made 10 shit shows for 1 good
Wrong.
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>Not really into Anime conventions
>Friend is dragging me to this

What should I expect?
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>>158994500
>Wrong.
Holy shit retard, at least look at the list of their shows. I understand you are young newfag that has no clue about most of them, but since 1999 When Madhouse started being truly active, the amount of trash they produced was constant and neverchanging. About the only really successful year for them was 2006. The rest its good if they had one good show for 3 complete shit.

The only decent stuff they produced was in OAV era, their TV stuff was shit.
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>>158990806
welcome to studio wars
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>>158994294
>Still, Kiznaiver is step in right direction - at least it HAD story and decent characterization, as well superb direction to anything Trigger did before.
Not really, it was typical drama bullshit no one really cared about, so much dramna happened basically for no reason and without a proper interesting resolution, then pairing the spare happened just because without much sense, like the glasses girl suddenly started to like the past fatty boy only cause he liked her reasoning which was just weak, very weak writing on their side, the main pairing too was really completely uninteresting, the big mystery turned into nothing.
Basically whole moral of the story was that teens should talk to each other to understand each other better than shutting down in isolation, what an original thought.

It was boring, as animation goes I liked it, main characters were painful to watch, the best character was the glasses boy who got shit ending. Even Japan agrees with sales that the main boy and girl duo were horrible, same with other characters seeing no one was really caught by this show to supprot it and buy BDs aside of few hundred dorks.
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>>158994443
>no specific "imaishifag" option
shit poll
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Reading this delusional Kyoanitard desperately trying to sell nu-Kyoani shit as "classics" is truly pathetic.
Something like Gundam 0079 is a true, timeless masterpiece that people still discover and love, despite the poor production values, while vapid trash like KnK, Maidragon and PH is purely disposable and forgotten the moment it finishes airing. How sad!
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>>158994475
That gets cancelled out when the are both confirmed heterosexual and chasing pussy all series. Sure fujos may ship characters regardless but that series never felt like one trying to go after them with how explicit they made it.
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>>158994983
Right. So DRRR! isn't fujobait either. Nor Kimi to Boku. Nor even all the way back to Getbackers.

It just didn't work because Mari Okada a shit.
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>>158992912
Cant any people on /a/ like anything that is not moeshit without you guys going that they are crossboarders for some reason
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>>158993718
>We arent seeing anything.
Oh but I am
>All trigger's con panels are private.
Not for me
>We arent even gonna know how the projects are called.
They dont give out the name of the project but they do show concepts, designs even PV trailers. Atleast I'll see it, not you
: ^ )
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>>158995157
>Moeshit
I don't even need to argue with people like you. You prove my point by yourselves.
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>>158994506
Alot annoying teenage girls
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>>158995258
Oh come on. I just want answer because /a/ always had people who dont like CGDCT anime and always fight between moe vs manime. This isnt nothing new
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>>158995416
well perhaps you could start by not projecting. I haven't watched 1 (one) CGDCT anime in my entire life. Perhaps it's you who's generalizing.
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>>158994297
and a very special surprise announcement too
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Trigger's next show is by Imaishi. Odds that it will have a female MC are actually pretty high.

Dead Leaves: in the end, Pandy was more of a protagonist than Retro.
TTGL: Simon was the protagonist, pretty much his only show with a male MC.
Panty & Stocking: Female MC
KLK: Female MC
Luluco: Female MC

He actually said that he prefers female MCs once and that, for example, he thought that if Ryuuko had been male as originally intended it would have felt even harder to take seriously because male MCs in revenge scenarios are played out.
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>>158995633
>he thought that if Ryuuko had been male as originally intended it would have felt even harder to take seriously because male MCs in revenge scenarios are played out.
More like the whole plot point of being embarassed of skimpy clothing wouldn't make sense. Not to mention all the stuff about marriage.
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>>158995108
No, drrr isn't. Just because fujoshit liked it doesn't make it fujobait. It would have to be intentionally putting homo implications in the series between male characters and making sexuality ambiguous and there is nothing like that in the show. Unless you never watched it yourself and are going off whatever doujinshit you read.
Kiznaiver didn't work for anyone because Okada a shit but there is nothing in it that was meant for fujoshits.
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>>158994701
You're saying Madhouse only has 1 masterpiece in the 80's and 1 in the 90's?
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>>158995633
I hope he goes full morally controversial again like Panty and Stocking, given how they are his only interesting characters.
I'll even take a male one who lies, steals, and cheats akin to FAVAROO
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>>158995908
Panty and Stocking are completely flat characters.
Panty is his only lead to not have any character arc whatsoever.
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>>158995832
I watched it, read it, and programmed shit with other /a/nons relating to it back when s1 aired. So fuck off.

Narita even wrote a (non-canon, but in any case it was just a fanfic by Karisawa) BL story about Izaya and Shizuo, for his website. He knows his audience, and so does Oomori. Which also directs Natsume, for which we can make the same comparison.

You can do fujobait without it actually being BL just like you can make yuribait without it actually being yuri.
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>>158992244
You have to spend 5-8 hours in the autograph session line for a guaranteed one. Otherwise you'll get a standby ticket which is up to their discretion to continue or not. He didn't do standby tickets iirc since he was doing a sketch for every single one.
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>>158995963
They have way more personality than any of his other characters. They get expanded upon literally every episode. We also see how they spend their days in mundane ways, adding way more dimensions than Simon, Ryuko, or Luluco could only hope to achieve.
Though its his only character-driven series, and those kind of series are always set up that way.
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>>158993718
There's a good chance they'll stream it this year

http://www.anime-expo.org/asked-answered-announcing-portal-anime-expo-2017/
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>>158996215
Hope so.
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>>158995308
Fug.

Well, I guess I can dress in business casual and hope everyone leaves me alone
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Any details about the new show? I remember hearing it was supposed to have a mecha focus.
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>>158996711
That's really about as much as anyone knows
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>>158996711
Known for certain:
-Directed by Imaishi
-"Fans of TTGL should look forward to it!"
-It's an action show the style TTGL/KLK rather than Luluco/PSG
-Mechanic design by Shigeto Koyama
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>>158996711
No, he just said that TTGL fans will like it.
But that could also be true for KLK.
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Looks like they're streaming their shit this year.

http://www.anime-expo.org/asked-answered-announcing-portal-anime-expo-2017/
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>>158996759
>Mecha anime
Can they fucking do it? I remember watching KLK but it never had the same oomph as TTGL did
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>>158997464
KLK wasn't mecha though

unless you count episode 25
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So when will Gainax sell all their assets at fire sale prices so that Trigger can give us PSG S2?
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What if it's Sex and Violence full series?
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>>158997876
Gainax is gonna hold on to their IPs as long as they can. Its all they have left. Everyone at gainax that anybody gave a shit about fucked off
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>>158997876
Gainax already said that they are fine with Trigger (Or anyone else for that matter) doing PS&G2.
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>>158979207
The only decent shows Trigger made were Kiznaiver and Inou battle
The rest are spastic meme shows
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>>158998015
Gainax after Khara and Trigger btfo has better record than Trigger: glorious C3-bu, Medaka Box adaptation, Pleiades, Mahō Shōjo Taisen and soon Flying Girls and Rescue Academia
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>>158994297
>Code Geass S3 aka milking it the anime.
You can say the same about every single popular anime that gets a sequel. Man up, yo. Even this Trigger project could be one of those too, literally or spiritually.
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>>158998382
>inspired by is milking it
That is literally the vast majority of artistic endeavors by mankind. One thing leads to another.
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>>158996012
I'm not sure about AX (good luck), but Anime Midwest invited Studio Trigger as a guest. They had an autograph session shortly after the panel, so I left the Q & A portion and got in line. Really chill guys. I asked Sushio to draw Mako on a canvas board and Wakabayashi drew Luluco. Really chill group of people.
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>>158998284
That is sadly true. They haven't actually put out anime since Pleiades so I am wary whether Rescue Academia, Uru in Blue, ect. will actually materialize. But all of their shows after PS&G have been really solid. I can't say the same for Trigger.
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>>158998479
>>158998284
>you will never be this contrarian
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>>158998588
I'm sorry /v/. Maybe if you actually watched aniem you would understand.
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>>158996012
god damn im jealous. Yoh or none of the trigger guys are listed as having autograph sessions on the AX website, so no one knows where to fuck to go to see them.
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>>158998284
Weird how Pleiades is better than anything Trigger or Khara has put out so far.
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>>158998628
I watched those shows, and when I see someone praising products of the empty shell of modern Gainax the dry and pointless Medaka Box adaption, or calling a less than mediocre mahou shoujo like Pleiades one of the high points of the genre, I can only be amused by the sheer contrarian nature of the poster.
Every notable work of both Khara and Trigger is simply on another level. Pretending talent didn't migrate is foolish.
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>>158998869
Case in point:
>>158998819
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>AnimeExpo
Why would I be excited to go to a place than bans R18 from artists, but allows Fakku to sell porn?
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>>158998775
Yeah it's odd, on the autograph session page he isn't listed but it says he will do autographs here

http://www.anime-expo.org/studio-triggers-yoh-yoshinari-hiromi-wakabayashi-shigeto-koyama-takafumi-hori-join-ax-2017/

I haven't seen them do autograph sessions at panels but I guess it's possible.
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>>158998869
What? You mean the wasted potential that is all of Trigger's shows? I will give you Khara, but the Rebuilds haven't exactly been on an upward trend. Hopefully they just drop that and do more along the lines of Dragon Dentist.
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>>158998869
*like the dry
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Is this announcement not just Imaishi's shit finally being brought to light?
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Just a reminder that 3hz has already outdone Trigger with one show
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>>158999136
>outdoing Trigger
Could you stop pretending that this is an accomplishment?
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>>158998963
I don't particularly love the Rebuilds but the craftsmanship alone makes them more interesting than anything produced by modern Gainax. Dragon's Dentist is their best work so far so it's obviously superior, and so are their shorts.
As for Trigger, everything by Imaishi has been brilliant, can't say the same about the rest, except for the Anime Mirai LWA movie.
Neither is old Gainax but they're both more worth following than modern Gainax.
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>>158999136
883
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>>158986010
CONFIRMED
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I hate how trigger try so hard to be /co/.
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>>158991250
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>158991250
>it's a coming of age story
I thought they just went
>Let's copy Evangelion but make it fun and fast and make it have unironical tits and fanservice
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>>159001454
>unironical tits and fanservice
Nothing wrong with this, you fag.
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>>159001509
Did I say it was bad?
It was one of the most bearable, dare I say even beautiful examples if fanservice.
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>>159001454
>>Let's copy Evangelion
It's shamelessly Re:Cutie Honey, though.
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>>158991250
In that pic's defense, it was explaining how the show's characterization and fanservice go well together.
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>>158993164
Just because they were meant to be taken at face value doesn't change the fact that the themes are there, either accidentally or subconsciously.

Besides, people will draw whatever message they want from anything. Who gives a shit?
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So, nothing yet?
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>>159003375

KLK S2.
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>>159003901
So, nothing yet.
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>>159004089

Correct.

You've seen through my ruse sir.
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>>158987913
It means he can more easily spot the writing patterns of underage newfags. In fact, he's probably an expert in that subject.
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>>158979366
JUSTICE MAGIC
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>>158979207
>Y'ALL NIGGAS READY FOR BASED TRIGGER TO make another mediocre, overhyped series with meaningless filler and a MC with no character development ONCE AGAIN?
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>>159006966
Hell yeah!!.. hey wait a minute
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>>158995157
Maybe people call you a crossboarder because you say "moeshit"
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I read that they said their next show would be one that fans of TTGL and Kill la Kill would enjoy, but I don't know how true that is.
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>/cgl/ is banning men from coming to the meetups
Lmao
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>>158990806
Its just /a/ being /a/. Down to earth shows like 3-gatsu are even shitposted right down to oblivion because it was made by Shaft. God I hate this place sometimes.
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>>158991113
>Luluco flopped
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>>158986933
I remember having a "treasure hunt" of shitty and/or meta cosplay.
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>>158994443
I guess that one backfired for you nigger. You probably weren't around for the umaru threads, but like a great smelly fart, the smell was not to be forgotten.
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>>158995765
>More like the whole plot point of being embarassed of skimpy clothing wouldn't make sense
are you kidding me? imagine a dude wearing the male equivalent of senketsu. that kind of shit would make me fucking embarrassed
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>>158999290
>more interesting than anything produced by modern Gainax.
>Dragon's Dentist is their best work so far
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I'm not holding out for Trigger's new stuff. I did have super high hopes of them, not so much nowadays.
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>>159001682
> shamelessly Re:Cutie Honey

come on, it's nothing like it.
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>>159015025
>replying and bumping
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>>159010970
Shaft ruined 3gatsu, whats your point again?
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Will anyone ever be able to see the LWAxinferfocop short?
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>>159013397
We'e reached peak denial
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>>158979207
I'm going, but not for trigger. There's no way I'll let myself miss the prescreening for Violet Evergarden.
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>>158994245
Are you legitimately autistic? It must suck living and thinking like you.
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If it's not Trigger Girls then I don't give a shit, and neither should you.
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>>158984329
Was Kinzaiver actually worth watching?
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>>158994963
That makes me wonder if KyoAni shows are truly the oscar bait of anime. Feels like there are a lot of parallels.
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>>158986933
You must be a terrible fucking schoolteacher, anon. It's "the vast majority" not the fucking fast majority you dame-dame baka.
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anyone going to the anime rave

kek
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>>159018794
I liked it, but really, it wasn't that special.
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>>158990806
I don't hate them, but KlK and Luluco were the only two shows they did that I liked. LWA wasn't nearly as good as people say it is.
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>>158979366
JUSTICE
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>>159000578
What do you mean?
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>>159010431
That word has been used since 2007 by /a/ and not crossboarders. /a/ always had people who dont like CGDCT anime, it is nothing new
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It would be shit and new/v/ags will shitpost how good it is, just like KlK and LWA.
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>>159019398
I don't like CGDCT either and I never use the term moeshit. Why? Because I am not a crossboarder and I don't need to trivialize a genre to express my dislike for it.
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>>158979520
>not liking whimsy
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>>158994443
>no Jojo option
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>>158979520
>not liking whimsy
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>>159018794
Yes. Best Trigger work so far, also not perfect.
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Choose Trigger's next show
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>>159020533
What is there to chose? Its confirmed to be Imashit, so Mass Effect Andromeda
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