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Vivio Thread

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Vivio's real cute, don't you think?
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There was too little of her adult mode in the anime.
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Also too bad they never strolled in casual clothes like that, afterwards.
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And her appearance in Innocent was too short.
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>>158933449
She promised not to use it for fun.
One day she'll grow up and look like that for real though.
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There needs to be more adolescent brat Vivio material.
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>>158933568
Nanoha can be very tough, I don't think a big rebellious streak would last long.
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>>158934001
Vivio would never smoke.
She cares about her body because she cares a lot of her martial arts.
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>>158934133
She shouldn't indeed. She should take good care of Olivie's DNA.
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>>158934133
I heard smoking is totally rad though.
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>>158934486
>Hayate being a bad influence
Yet again?
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>>158934588
That would never happen.
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>>158934762
Hmm, suddenly realized how much is Hayate into boobs. And well, grownup Vivio has quite some vivios, Hayate probably watched the videos from the Craddle fight, right?
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I wonder if Hayate feels guilty wet whenever she remembers.
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Do you have a minute to talk about our queen and savior Olivie?
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>>158934883
Vivio's vivios are indeed lovely. But Hayate loves Vita, so boobs aren't the only thing that matters.
Yeah I assume Hayate has seen those, at the very least heard about it from Nanoha. And in Vivid she sees Vivio's adult mode plenty since she watches some matches.
Hayate is a lewd girl but I doubt she's lewd enough for >>158934966

>>158935014
Olivie is a good girl.
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>>158935014
Ya know, if they had continued the library trip with them finding the wrong book, and said book being some magical artifact that sucks them in a la Absorption, forcing them to live out the lives of their ancestors and re-enact the past to get out, it would have been quite the belkan trip.
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>>158935276
I would pet the hell out of nekomimi Crozelg. Einhart is lucky. They screwed her character in volume 12/13, sigh.
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>>158935592
Can Yumina die already
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>>158935592
Vivio looks so happy holding her mothers, she doesn't need no cheating girlfriends.
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Vivio is for mating with Einhart only.
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>>158936740
It's more likely that she will get pity mating with her mamas at this point
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>tfw you get cucked so hard you have to settle for the biggest jobber in the franchise
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>>158937295
Vivio x Signum sounds way too absurd, anon
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>>158935592
Is Vivio x Einhart eternally dead?
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>the cancer is talking to himself like usual
I wish it was still possible to have good Nanoha threads.
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>>158937448
Pretty sure it says Vivio Thread in the OP.
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>>158932515
Vivid was a mistake.
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Loli reboot of the franchise when?
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It's summer time
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>>158937295
>>158937392
>biggest jobber in the franchise
That's Vita.
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>>158935626
I can't hate her but the fucking writers responsible should go fuck themselves.
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http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/107806
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>>158940412
What's this?
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>>158940412
STILL attentionwhoring?
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>>158932515
I'm glad she replaced that furry bitch called Nanoha
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>>158940558
Yukarin being emo.
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She's cute but she's no Fuuka
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https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5184345138
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5184256646

Spoilers for this months Vivid.
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>>158941426
Is that the first punch Nanoha has ever thrown?
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>>158941426
Should this be considered child abuse?
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>>158941862
There is no such thing in Mid.
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>>158941426
So this is... the power... of a mary sue... woah.
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>>158943181
She's getting old anon. Give her a brake.
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>>158943181
Wow, they are counting? Could it be that Vivio comes back and re-equips? That would be kinda cool, although seriously speaking, this whole fight is dumb, absurd, bad writing. Child and mom beating each other brutally, because? My suspension of disbelief just can't hold and it really has a bad taste.
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>>158943181
So does this imply that every character Vivio jobbed to could retroactively shit all over Nanoha?

Manga was a fucking mistake. The inconsistencies in this franchise are all over the fucking place.
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Cute. The best part about Vivid is getting to see Nanoha being a mom.
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>>158943353
Nanoha took classes in the Precia school of raising your children
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>>158943181
But she does have limiters on, right?
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>>158941426
Good to see Nanoha go back to the basics when she got her first friends. A good old fisticuffs.
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>>158943571
Normally, Vivio couldn't even fucking fly, you know. The stage here was set up in zero gravity in the upper parts and there are a bunch of floating rocks around to enable her to reach Nanoha. Under normal circumstances, Nanoha would weep the floor with her effortlessly. There are also the limiter and how Nanoha was having too much fun fighting the U19 and Fate just before the actual fight.
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>>158943863
Why is Fate smiling?
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>>158943988
She likes to see Nanoha be authoritative.
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>>158943988
Looks more like worried laughter with the sweat drops.
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>>158943571
Vivio got a large handicap in this fight.
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>>158943796
I don't think there was ever a question about that. She definitely is capped.

After all, she even has to request permission to unleash fully in actual combat action in time of crisis. The limiters are on nonstop, 24/7/365 and naturally wouldn't be released for "fun fight" with kid.
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>>158943181
So that means most Vivid Strike characters can beat up limited Nanoha like that? Such bullshit.
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>>158944427
Fuuka is strong
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>>158944478
We don't know yet. She can't beat Einhart and Vivio is an open question.
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>>158944478
Miura was rated higher then Vivio at the start of Strike. So that means she is most likely stronger then Vivio during her match with Nanoha.
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>>158943935
I see.

I don't actually read Vivid, I'm just here for the drama until the movie drops.
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>>158944578
Give her a few more months of training and she will beat Ein no problem.
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>>158944599
Very few people read it mostly because the translators are slow as hell and are like 30 chapters behind.
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>>158943571
>So does this imply that every character Vivio jobbed to could retroactively shit all over Nanoha?

Not necessarily because Vivio used to actually not be the strongest loli in the multiuniverse. The way she is now everyone she jobbed to would most certainly lose against her, including Einhart. Hell, looking at how weak they made Sieglinde in Strike, she could probably beat her too.

But it does make the retards who were desperate to prove how the Vivids are all super weak and how Subaru could beat Sieg etc. look even more retarded.
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>>158944700
Only 20 now. They picked up a lot in april-may. Now they slowed a bit but probably we could get more TLs now.

BTW, people, I guess now it's time to stop posting pictures so that it is easier to see the actual posts to read.
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>>158941426
>Vivio got Yamcha'd
A really fitting end considering the state of Vivio as a character this last few years.
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>>158944889
Learn to read filenames.
Definitely not his scan.
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>>158943353
>because
TSAB holding a tournament to let aspiring kids fight the Instructor Corp mages.

Starts with lolis beating the shit out of each other, winner gets to fight an instructor of their choice.
Vivio won and naturally chose to fight Nanoha.
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>>158944931
Not that Bitch-kun even cares about Nanoha and is just looking to shit in this thread.
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>>158944951
Yeah, but IMHO it should have been less brutal.

>>158944931
Don't talk to it please. Makes no sense anyway.
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>>158944951
Why not Fate? She hasn't done anything to make Vivio hate her so.
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>>158944976
Nanoha fans already deny they ever were, the franchise took a big, unhealthy hot pile shit upon their heads.

But I guess the franchise is still successful, wet moronic teens enjoy it.
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>>158945051
Fate isn't an instructor
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Just a reminder that Einhart is literally made for Yumina.
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>>158945150
Must suck having a life as pathetic as yours.
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>>158944427
No? Both Rinne and Fuuka are established to be weaker than Vivio.
And Nanoha was fighting the big vivids in a previous chapter as a warm up.
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>>158945150
Fuuka*
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>>158945051
>>158945122
The other option was Vita.
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>>158945020
>it should have been less brutal.
Well, considering Vivio's motivations and who she's fighting, its natural for the fight to be somewhat brutal.

Vivio needs to give her all to fight Nanoha, and Nanoha will not hold back, especially since she's fighting Vivio.
During the fight Nanoha was going all parent-esque with all the lines about how Vivio became strong when she used to be a weak little kid and whatnot. And she ended the monologue with this.
>I'd love to give you what you desire(Vivio winning the fight), but I'm not going to lose this match

>>158945051
Fate is an enforcer, not an instructor.

>>158945207
Only Sieg kept up with her, and she didn't even break a sweat.
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>>158945239
Even I could beat her.
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>>158943857
Hell yeah. I'm glad to see Nanoha hasn't lost her tradition of schooling her opponents at their own game. Reminds me when she subdued Subaru at melee range.
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>>158945204
>>158945150 isn't fine but the whole Nanoha spam is fine? You have weird standards, bitch-kun.
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>>158945222
I think that we can all agree on this
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Are there anyone who likes both the original Nanoha from the first two series and the StrikerS+ series' Nanoha?

Along with the series, she also is the total opposite. Nanoha until A's was my number one fav character. Then in StrikerS, she became the most annoying character to me.
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>>158945352
That was teh so-called "ACK", not Bitch-kun.

He dislikes the idea of Einhart-Yumina since it reeks of NTR, same as his opposition to ctack pairings. I agree with him on Yumi although I would not post like that.
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>Old hags in muh ViVio thread.
[ Absolutely Disgusting ]
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>>158944976
>>158945054
Can't you see that this is a Vivio thread? If you don't like Vivio why don't you just fuck off instead of sperging like an autist nonstop?
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>>158943830
>>158943874
>>158943917
>>158943970
>>158944004
>>158944041
>>158944084
>>158944190
>>158944233

>Explicitly titled Vivio thread
>comes to shitpost anyways
Get a load of this hypocrite.
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>>158945245
>Only Sieg kept up with her, and she didn't even break a sweat
Vivio officially stronger than Sieg now.
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>>158945275
Battle damage is the best thing that come out of vivid.
Speaking of which, Nanoha really did beat the shit out of Vivio. Nanoha's clothes are pretty much intact while Vivio is almost naked.
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>>158945400
Of course there, what are you even smoking?

There are probably more people that hate post StrikerS, but it's probably smaller number and obviously you have to filter out the samefag.

Probably at least half the fans like StrikerS. With Vivid, harder to say.
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>>158944427
Its arguable.

Vivio knows Nanoha's fighting style very well and immediately went in to prevent her from just blasting Vivio into hell. She then put in lots of punches to whittle Nanoha down and also landed some hard hits.
I think that's why Vivio managed to get Nanoha so damaged.

Ultimately power levels aren't really a thing in Nanoha anyway, remember that one particular line in the StrikerS manga?
Even if Vivio won this, it doesn't really mean that Vivio would win every fight with Nanoha.

>>158945550
Vivio's barrier jacket is tattered as fuck because Starlight Breaker
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>>158945400
>Are there anyone who likes both the original Nanoha from the first two series and the StrikerS+ series' Nanoha?
Me. And judging by the art featuring all her versions together I bet I'm not the only one. The best parts of StrikerS are the ones focused on Nanoha.
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>>158935592
Why does Corona act like a slut in all the recent art?
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>>158945542
Sieg isn't able to ever fight at full power because she'll kill her opponents.
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>>158945606
>if Vivio won this
Nanoha would have become a joke and her recruitment for missions should be reconsidered while Vivio should have received a rain check for offers to join the TSAB.
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Bless you, mods. It's appreciated (I know it's hard work to deal with autists with this many turbos bolted on).
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>>158945698
Vivio officially stronger than tournament regulated Sieg now. She should beat her at the Intermiddle not Einhart.
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>>158945747
>become a joke
>underestimating the powers of the TSAB propaganda department
They will just claim that she wasn't seriously fighting because she's fighting her own daughter.
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>>158932515
yes
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>>158945440
So called by a single person, the one who spams these threads.
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>>158945827
Yeah but her superiors will know that true and realize that she finally lost her edge. She wouldn't be a main face in the mission to deal with the Eclipse if she had lost against a mere sport practicing kid.
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>>158946152
>Vivio
>clone of space jesus who was the strongest fighter of her era
>might as well be the real deal when it comes to her physique
>trained by people who does real combat(Nove, Nanoha, and other people)
>knew exactly how Nanoha fights and her arsenal of spells, most probably trained beforehand to counter Nanoha's tactics as well
>a mere sport practicing kid.

And the TSAB knows better.
Why not just try to recruit Vivio into the force instead? Even if Nanoha is defeated she's still pretty damn powerful, and her experience would still prove to be very useful for training troops which is her job anyway.
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>>158946152
>mere sport practicing kid
Though severely nerfed, Vivio is still the sankt fucking kaiser.

You know what I hate about Vivid? The sheer powercreep of these fucking kids. I thought people with Nanoha's potential were something extraordinary, and that Fate only manages to keep up as she's genetically perfect, but it turns out they're literally and figuratively a dime a dozen. It's exactly like generic shonen shit.
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>>158946201
So, going down to the same level as spamming shitposters helps your cause how exactly?
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>>158946580
>her experience would still prove to be very useful for training troops which is her job anyway
But her battle prowess has clearly diminished. She's fine for teaching but she shouldn't be on a battlefield anymore is fighting sporting kids is already too much for her. Specially against unpredictable OP shit like the Eclipse.

>>158946618
>Vivio is still the sankt fucking kaiser.
Who keeps getting lousy places in sports tournaments against amateur mortal girls. I dislike how ViVid is so terribly inconsistent with Vivio's strength. Any mage able to trash Nanoha should be treated as a big name powerhouse. Vivio basically outperformed Sieglinde by almost beating Nanoha. She should've been ruling the place a year after. Instead she keeps struggling for a place against the likes of fucking Miura.
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>>158946618
Its only the few top fighters of an interplanetary tournament that are really monsters anyway.

Vivio has her space jesus status and all the ancient belkan genetic engineering behind it.
Einhart has Claus' memories of all the suffering and also his techniques.
Sieg has the combat experience and skill of all the Jeremiahs in history, up to the point that she has an autopilot instinct that moves to annihilate whatever that threatens her life in place of the usual fight-or-flight instinct humans have.
Everyone else has ancestral shit or trained super hard especially if they had relatively rare talents(Corona's golem manipulation). Rio has her space chinese kungfu on top of her duel elemental affinity.

Sieg and Vivio so far are the ones that have shown to be able to keep up with Nanoha physically anyway, everyone else can't keep up.
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>>158946618
Did you forget that all the kids that appear in S1 are also strong as fuck? Even the normalfag earthlings are super humans.
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It doesn't really matter if Nanoha loses once or twice. Reallistically, that is bound to happen to anybody. Not just power levels matter, there are circumstances and the like (circumstances in this case being likely heavier limiter, for example).

And it's display fight, not something where lives are on stake, so she doesn't need to go for desperate measures or go all out right from the start and be 100% sharp.
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>>158946930
>missing the point of that one time the StrikerS manga that talked about powerlevels
Fighting style differences, anon.

Against Nanoha, by closing in and keeping the punches up, Vivio would shut off Nanoha's ranged firepower and force her to guard.
If she tried the same shit against Miura, Miura would outpunch Vivio and smash Vivio into the ground when given the chance, its like if Nanoha could deliver her firepower in a pure melee form.

Against someone who doesn't usually fight in melee, meleeing the shit out of them works well, but against someone who fights in melee all day everyday, going melee on that person is not exactly a good idea.
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>>158946942
>Sieg and Vivio so far are the ones that have shown to be able to keep up with Nanoha physically anyway, everyone else can't keep up

Realistically Vivio should be stomping every tournament not attended by Sieg and Victoria.
>>158947170
>And it's display fight, not something where lives are on stake, so she doesn't need to go for desperate measures or go all out right from the start and be 100% sharp
Which would've been cool if they haven't shown Nanoha giving every signal of taking the fight seriously. She almost lost against a girl that keeps getting 5th to 7th places in every tournament she attends.
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>>158947184
>Nanoha is weak at melee
See? This is what happens when you fall for hate-memes and skip StrikerS.
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>>158947436
StrikerS is my favorite.

StrikerS > Nanohas >> Vivids
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>>158947517
Then you should know the "Nanoha is weak at melee" argument is false. She has long since worked on that shortcoming and was demonstrated by giving hell to a melee monster like Subaru and a close range expert like Signum. Unless of course ViVid is implying the entire new generation is leagues stronger than the old one explaining why the girl who almost defeated Nanoha isn't champion of the Multiverse by now.
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>>158947678
I am a different anon, not the one you are replying to. I just randomly posted without reading your argument.

But yeah, Nanoha isn't weak at melee, at least not later on.
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>>158947678
I also want to mention
>Unless of course ViVid is implying the entire new generation is leagues stronger than the old one
Yeah. That really bothered me about Vivid.

Already the "power limiters" of StrikerS annoyed me a lot. But then in Vivid some kids beat up Nanoha. That was too much and I dropped that shit right then and there.
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>>158948732
>at least not later on
She fought with Fate in S1 and Vita in S2.

In any case, this fight is dictated by the narrative, so we have to ignore that it isn't too logical.
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>>158948819
Well she kinda got rekt by Vita pretty hard.
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>>158948810
It was a fight that was mainly orchestrated for the kids to have fun, so you should not give it much mind.

You let your kids win when you play with them.
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>>158948930
Only once.
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>>158948957
Even in the mock battle, Nanoha never lost to the Vivids specifically. She was only knocked out by self detonation in an SLB vs SLB fight with Teana.
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>>158948957
>>158949020
>>158949077
Thank you,

I like your positive mindset. I wish I had this as well and would not be so critical all the time, then I could enjoy more stuff.

Anyway, it's not just that they lost but how they lost and how they looked afterwards.

I found the scene in my large screenshot folder. It just underlined the already bad quality of Vivid.

StrikerS is my favorite because it has a lot of good characters, the best worldbuilding and Nanoha gets to be badass at the end.
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>>158948819
>She fought with Fate in S1 and Vita in S2
And defeated both by creating situations that allowed her to use her advantage as a bombarder. She stopped Subaru mostly with her hands and had exchanged blows with Signum face-to-face. Her improvement at melee range was pretty clearly depicted during StrikerS.
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>>158940941
>shitting on Saint Tail with Fuuka's face
Please leave legitimately based magical girls out of this.
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>>158949416
Yeah but the point is that she was able to deflect their meelee attacks up to that point and lived to be able to shoot them. That's effectively the same skill as being able to win by meelee itself.

>>158949310
If you really mean this, I will give you an honest answer.

You apparently aren't able to look at your posting actions from outside and realize what you say and look like to outsiders.

You don't "discuss Nanoha". You only post "stop liking this" "what you like is shit" and "nobody should like this" in 9001 variants. In last two threads, you kept giving STUPID retorts like that to every single post, with some rare exceptions. Do you think it is normal to do that for every post in two threads in a row?

Let me honestly tell you: nobody is fucking interested in that. Not fans of StrikerS, not fans of S1, not people hyped for Reflection. That is obnoxious spamming habit and 95% people will agree with that. If you see nothing wrong at your spamming and insult sprees and thing you are bing wronged, then you are just wrong in the head and unable to perceive reality.

You wanted honesty, here you have it.
Disclaimer: I reported you a lot and I can't stand this sort of "Nanoha discussion", so I stopped browsing /a/ threads even. But I very much doubt I am some lone weirdo by having this view of you. Good day to you.
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>>158949293
Vivid/Takuya has no qualms about this sort of fanservice and Fate has gotten it really badly.

I try to remind myself that it is fine because this shit is just motivated with that and is something like meta humour. If Fate was humiliated for story/narrative reasons instead of fanservice, it would be worse. I know that it is still bad taste, but I can bite it thanks to that distinction.

Vivid really does the clothing damage a lot to everybody. Innocent too, at places (Vita).
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>https://www.4chan.org/bans
>bitchfag listed as a 30 day ban
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>>158950966
I wish bans would do shit.
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>>158932515
Her biggest problem is that having a threesome with both her loli mode and her adult mode is impossible.
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>>158932515
Yes
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>>158943181
Hmm, so actually going back to the fight. Vivio didn't show her "time slows down when I have low HP" ability in this fight, did she?
If that is right then I think she will rise once more for a final stand, something like Einhart against Sieg in the intermiddle.
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>>158951647
She lost her adult mode. Will she continue the fight in loli form?
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>>158951647
Inb4 "time goes backwards when I have very low HP"
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Hmm, she dodged this. I still don't like Nanoha's face getting punched though.

>>158951950
I think that actually means she lost consciousness there. But maybe if she manages to come to quickly enough before the count, she could re-setup?

This hasn't happened yet though, usually reversion to normal form meant knock-out.
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>>158952110
What was the knocking hit then?
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>>158952188
Well, Nanoha can shoot more than one bullet at a time, or next attack, or basically a counter? We'll see.
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>>158952314
>Vivio dramatically avoids a single blast
>Nanoha can spam enough bullets to obliterate an entire fleet
Apparently they dumbed down Nanoha for the sake of plot.

Here a nice experiment. The ViVid cast VS Precia and the Garden of Time. How well they fare?
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>>158945150
Kill yourself son of a bitch
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>>158952484
Nanoha is under her limiter though.
Still no excuse for her not just bombarding Vivio from 300 feet up in the air for the whole fight.
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>>158952484
They could probably deal with some of those mechs, there's more Vivids than you can count on one hand. Corona would probably be fairly useful, Einhart too (Kaze no Kizu - err, the hegemon move), I assume people with more magic than fists like Harry, Rio could shoot at them too, as could Vivio.
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>>158952664
The ViVids beat S1 now let's rise up the stakes.

The ViVids vs The Wolkenritter, the Lieze Twin, Full powered Eins and the out of control Defense Program.
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Can Vivio beat an 86 on the touge?
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>>158952805
They befriend the Knights or catgirls take them out. Lieze Twins get taken out by Lutecia randomly happening to be just in time.

Then we watch as people suddenly get revealed to have ranged strong attacks. "I haven't perfected this technique yet, but!"

Miura does some SLBing, Einhart a big dankuuken, Vivio whatever is fit, Victoria hits it with lightning, the other as before. Who's going to teleport it or does another cheat like that, dunno. Maybe Fabia, since she is most trick caster out of them.

Hayate nukes it in the space finally, because cruisers are getting fixed from huckebein damage in docks.
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>>158953330
What about full powered Eins?
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>>158953439
The new girl will befriend and stop her from inside.

Now who is the new girl though? Inb4 Fuuka and Rein is Rinne. Please to not die.
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>>158953330
>>158953578
Congratulations! The ViVids managed the impossible and had beaten A's. Now it's time to take things to the next level. How the ViVids will stop the evil Jail Scaglietti and his army of Numbers, Gadget drones and the threat of little Lutecia, Agito, Zest and the revived Sankt Kaiser? (For this Slutecia and nerfed Vivio can coexist with Loli Rider Lutecia and full Relic Powered Vivio).
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Man that one is easy.

Timeskip.

Then you just look for interesting les- I mean rookies to train and incident just somewhat fixes itself up. I just don't know who is going to get adopted.

The main part is that Einhart suggestively removes uniform when Vivio sitting in pyjamas on the bed before her looks with * * eyes. Basically that is the moment they win.

Poor Yumina gets shot in the womb in some spaceship but it is a pinku beam and she gets better.
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>>158952649
They installed a zero G field above the arena just so that Vivio can actually get up there to Nanoha. Vivio got a lot of handicaps and still lost.
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>>158955165
Well, it would suck a lot if Nanoha lost. I could perhaps accept it if it would be result of that slow-time special power of Vivio or similar surprise/cheat factor and it was kept secret from Nanoha - and it didn't get handled too lamely by the narration.

It should be kept in mind that winning one fight to prove something to oneself doesn't mean the winner is stronger - see the fight with Einhart.
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>>158955165
Wait seriously? I thought Vivio could fly.
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>>158955872
Probably just Fabia can, on her broom. Damn, I liked her creepy look.
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>>158954439
Sort of glossed over without really solving anything but okay! The ViVids kinda sorta survived StrikerS!

Now it's time for them to face their greatest challenge yet! Out of nowhere Sieglinde was stabbed within an inch of her life by an enigmatic eye-patched woman. The magic-reliant martial arts the ViVids worked so hard to polish along with their trusted family-friend heirloom devices are now rendered completely useless by the evil power of the Eclipse.

How will the ViVids manage to face and defeat the dangers of The Huckebein, Silver Cross possessed Tohma, The Grendels, the Vandein Corp. EC-Drivers and their boss Hades Vandein? They shall be prepared for the fight of their lives.
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>>158956720
Awww, Force. Now you got me. Since Tsuzuki didn't finish it, I can't ape it from him. But I believe les- eh, friendship, hard work and trust that helping people in need is the path to go will prevail always.
Can they train to get strong in China?

>Sort of glossed over without really solving anything but okay!
Well, in a way that is how it happens in StrikerS too. Forwards and NFH both kinda come to the confrontation and it turns out they were the stronger/better prepared/more lucky ones. In case of NFH, they prevail thanks to getting SS/S+ strong during the timeskip.
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>>158956084
Everyone loves each other too much, I want evil Fabia and intimidating champions back.

>>158956720
But the Vivids already defeated Force.
Vivid is still going, Force is a dead manga.
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>>158957403
All the ViVids wear AEC-weapons and since most of them are melee practicioners they'll all have Gladiators and War Hammers. Also wonder how a Sieglinde-Cypha rivalry would play out.

>>158957407
>Everyone loves each other too much, I want evil Fabia and intimidating champions back
I want that after Einhart defeats Sieg at the Intermiddle and becomes city champion the latter warns her about the OP shit she'll find at the planetary and interdimentional leagues. Probably even following Einhart as assistant on the Nakajima team to help her be prepared. Maybe the second runner that lost to Sieg two finals ago appears for the rematch but gets pissed to find someone has beaten her at defeating Jeremiah and now vows to destroy Einhart in the tournament.
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Is Yumina the strongest Vivid?
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>>158958728
She's the Most Dangerous vivid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxHgVBpKNEo
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Posting Yumina in a Vivio thread should be bannable too!
jk
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>>158961736
Nanoha mama takes Fate mama to various places. Restaurants, parks, dates, bedrooms, heights of ecstasy...
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>>158943863
This is a really good image to describe Nanoha threads.
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>>158952664
Each one of those golems was as strong as kid Chrono and there was and entire army of those.
The girls are not weak but it is the worst posible mach up for the vivids, specially Corona.
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Why does Vivio get to have two moms while Fuuka gets to have no parents, how is this fair
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>>158964688
She's catching up
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>>158964737
Nove probably hates Fuuka because she choose to learn the Einfart pokemon technique instead of Nove's style, as soon as Fuuka manages to live on her own she'll probably kick her out since she pities her
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>>158964878
Nove loves Fuuka and enjoys feeding her,
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>>158964878
Like all moms do.
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>>158964737
Fuuka is such a sweet kid. So little needs, so modest and grateful.
>>158964878
Einhart basically brought Fuuka in, like an old tomcat brings in a kitten and takes it under its care, sometimes. I don't think Nove minds, because she ended up as a surrogate mom after that.
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>>158964935
Jill will move in and Nove will kick Fuuka out so she doesn't get in the way, she's a grown ass girl not her daughter
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>>158965114
That wouldn't happen, she's going to teach Fuuka how to drive soon.
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>>158965227
Shut up Fuuka, stop projecting your lack of paternal love into Nove, it's embarassing
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>>158965295
Fuuka is loved by Nove
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>>158965363
I can't wait for the day when Fuuka goes back to living under the bridge and finding food in the trash can
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>>158965480
That won't happen and even if it did she has a back up.
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>>158965519
If Rinne takes her in then at least Nove won't have to deal with her anymore, I guess that's fine
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>>158965610
Nove likes to "deal" with Fuuka.
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>>158965227
Would she drive a Reventon or a Huracan?
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>>158965610
She could not get rid of her even if she wanted to.
Fuuka is the number one student of her number one student. She can not risk losing Haru-nyan.
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>>158965661
''At least the annoying hobo won't be homeless when I kick her out, so I won't feel nad when that happens, thanks Rinne''

That's what she's thinking
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>>158965781
Don't put words in her mouth.
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I'm not telling anyone to quit fantasizing about Nove throwing Fuuka out on her ass, but it's not canon and it never will be. Family building has always been a central theme in Nanoha. You're shipping Fuuka with a curb.
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>>158965961
How do robots get lonely?
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>>158965961
She's just trying to not break her heart which is way worse, Nove will eventually get fed up with her, and Fuuka will cry because she's an unwanted child, also she likes Vivio more
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>>158966207
>How do robots get lonely?
You are nothing more than an enormous cluster of naturally occurring nanobots, so you tell me. I wish I knew the answer.
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>>158966240
Nove likes them both. Fuuka more
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>>158966240
No one likes Vivio the most.
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>>158966571
Ein does.
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>>158966428
She has no reason to like Fuuka more than anyone, while Vivio is acutally eager to be her student, if Vivio wasn't already taken she'd probably adopt her instead
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>>158966921
Unlike Vivio, Fuuka is good at learning multiple styles and shows off Vivio/ Nove techniques.
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>>158966571
I love Vivio the most!
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>>158966921
>if Vivio wasn't already taken she'd probably adopt her
I know I would.
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>>158966618
She clearly doesn't.
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>>158966921
You guys think Vivio would've turned out straight if she'd been adopted by Nove or other parents?
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>>158968662
Nanoha girls can't be straight.
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>>158968864
The little pink one.
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>>158969773
Fate is a bad parent
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>>158933479
Nanoha will be a granny by then. Actually maybe around 27 or 30.
Do you think she'd allow Vivio to date guys?
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>>158970688
>Do you think she'd allow Vivio to date guys?
That would be a disgrace for their family.
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>>158970688
I don't think she would allow guys to date Vivio.
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>>158970688
>Do you think she'd allow Vivio to date guys?
To earn that right they would've to defeat Nanoha and Fate in a duel first.
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>>158971916
That doesn't seem to be that difficult to achieve nowadays. We now know that Nanoha have a glass jaw.
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>>158972530
>glass jaw.
Vivio is a clone of the strongest mage ever.
Nanoha was limited to around 1/3 rd of her real power.
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I LOVE VIVIO
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>>158973023
A formal duel is not enough justification to release limiters. I have this on the bag.
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>>158973344
Who is Vivio?
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>>158973696
The strongest magical martial artist in the Galaxy. She was inches away from defeating the Ace of Aces.
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>>158973696
A good girl who spends her time studying and practicing magic instead of dating players like Einhard.
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I wonder if Vivio is reading this thread
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>>158976722
Is Nove trying to choke her?
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>>158975504
I hope so, this thread has been nice for once.
Sasuga Vivi-sama.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy2lEG4qEIc
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>>158978742
Why must they continue to shoehorn the Strike shitters?
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>>158978742
I have a feeling that Yumina will be the MC of one of the two upcoming new TV series.
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>>158979759
Villain*
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>>158979759
What if they make her the MC of the rebooted Force?

>>158973344
Nice just-right breast size.
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>>158980230
This is "just-right breast size".
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Stop anon.
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>>158980322
I'll never stop loving Vivio.
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>>158980449
There is love and then there is love.
You crossed the line.
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>>158980472
The only line that shouldn't be crossed is her panty line. Vivio is for belly/chest kisses and cuddles.
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>>158980626
You've spat on the line now.
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>>158980845
Only allowed in nonpedo way if you are her mother(s).
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>>158980845
She looks like Tea in that image.
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>>158980845
No, it's wrong.
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>>158980872
>>158980947
I'm going to kiss her belly anyway.

>>158980945
I think it's just orange juice.
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>>158981004
I'll see you in hell.
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>>158981122
Vivios belly will bring me to heaven.
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>>158981224
God will not allow this
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>>158983262
Is this the mahou shoujo equivalent of walking in on your parents having sex?
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>>158983822
If she wants to watch her mothers having sex she can just Google it, their private movie was leaked.
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end
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>>158984056
When will Miura learn?
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>>158984185
learn?
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>>158984208
Learn to pleasure Vivio.
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>>158984311
Never, Vivio will be forced too masturbate after Miura's gone to sleep.
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>>158984311
Fuck off.
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>>158984367
At least Miura won't cheat on her
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>>158984548
See >>158984444
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>>158984548
She's lucky that she found someone willing to put up with her
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>>158984597
See >>158950339

Isn't she cute?
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>>158984784
I want to bully Miura for saying "boku".
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Little magical girls in other shows stop missiles, restore faith and save lives. What are Vivio and her friends doing with their fucking lives? How irresponsible.
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>>158987371
Beating the fucking shit out of one another
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>>158987371
Vivios mothers already saved the world, now they're just living peacefully and having fun.
And one day if the world goes to shit, they'll have the strength to save it.
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>>158987522
>And one day if the world goes to shit
Happens literally one year after Vivid Strike.
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>>158984674
>See >>158950339 (You)
I'm slightly miffed that nobody even says
>I see what you did there

It's not like I made the picture half a year ago. Or for you specially, /a/, anyway.
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>>158987835
You know, I saw the filename and I noticed you swapped her eyes, but I was too much of a land fag to get the joke.
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>>158987819
We're in the Fuukaverse now, so that might not happen anymore.
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>>158987934
Something may replace the Huckebein but a Multiverse threat must emerge to replace it. Having cool badass magic is a fucking waste if we don't have a threat to fight with it.
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>>158987925
Nah, if it was supposed to be real boatlights, then the left eye is green and right is red, when looking at her face form the front. I think.

But thanks for noticing, senpai. I was wondering how many people remember which eye is which. I don't.
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>>158988178
Don't worry, The villain has already appeared.
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>>158988224
You're so pathetic, and not even in a funny way.
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>>158988300
Why wouldn't she be? She appears out of nowhere and suddenly joins the cast.
She's going to be the big bad.
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>>158988337
And got befriended even before she started anything. Logical progress after Einhart getting taken home after her first attack and Fabia during it. Yumina: before. Sasuga TSAB.
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>>158988224
How can she be a threat to the Multiverse?
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>>158988572
She's the anti Christ.
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>>158988649
Maybe Succubi are the next fad that Tsuzuki will absorb and put into Nanoha.
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>>158988739
She'll show her true form next year and try to fuck shit up.
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>>158983946
It's even better when she doesn't want to watch.
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>>158990223
>she doesn't want to watch.
She probably ends up schliking to the noises from their room every night.
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>>158990223
I've never been an adopted little girl with 2 sexually active moms, is this sort of reaction normal?
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>>158980291
Breasts that fit perfectly in your hand are just the best.
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>>158993078
Pure.
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Why does everyone here hate Yumina so much?
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>>158937295
>tfw your installment destroys the entire franchise and annihilates the fanbase to the point fans of the original don't like the franchise anymore and all that's left is shit eaters who eat shit and wish for the franchise to sink even further because it's hilarious while killing any discussion of it while also calling themselves fans of the aforementioned
But no, we're all Nanoha fans here, right guise??
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>>158937392
Vivid exists. Clearly, the idea that only good things should become part of Nanoha was thrown out ages ago.
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>>158994667
I don't hate her, I just don't like what they did with Einhart, partially using Yumina's character. She's normal girl on her own?
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>>158937421
Nah. As long as there is a Nanoha franchise to pollute, they will be there. The same could be said of a lot of people, actually. You should be familiar with that mission statement yourself.
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>>158937448
Me too. How long is it until the movie? Less than a month from now? You'd think threads would be great and full of hype. But nope, shitposters drove all those people away.
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>>158937485
Every single mainline entry in the franchise since StrikerS has been a mistake. It's a wonder they still have a business going, isn't it? Makes you think where the fuck the fans are.
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>>158937589
They don't even need to reboot. Just go back to A's and go from there. All the installments after that might as well be explained away as some fever dream of Chrono's.
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>>158994922
He's going to ruin the movie threads as well. No question about it.
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>>158995033
I wouldn't doubt it. They've gone this far already.
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>>158939996
At the very least Vita is cute and is a great character. Most characters in this series can't say the same.
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>>158940063
>but the fucking writers responsible should go fuck themselves.
Yeah, especially for all that shit after A's. Writing a sequel to A's shouldn't have been such a monumental task to have failed so espectacularly, A's is already a sequel itself.
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Friendly reminder that this here currently featured Bitch-kun is ban evading a 30day ban incidentally issued for ban-evading. And thinking people won't recognize him without his images.
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>>158995184
>And thinking people won't recognize him without his images.
It's still pretty obvious given how he started replying to posts from over a day ago right where he left off when they banned him yesterday.
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>repeatedly bump a thread from page 10
>whine when people use it
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>>158940625
>replaced
In what way? Nanoha is getting her own big movie and Vivid will quietly be forgotten as the fans of Nanoha come rushing back in. Vivio is more of a placeholder than a replacement.
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>>158994853
Does anybody have the second Vivio stitch from Vivid Strike (episode 6)? Or was it not posted at all?
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>>158995470
That's a cute Vivio.
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>>158949803
Is it surprising that someone who only discovered Nanoha some months ago has no appreciation for history? Very good taste, by the way.
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>>158941862
It probably would, were it in a manga with better writing. As in, at least the level of S1 Nanoha. It would likely be too confusing for the new generation of fans, however.
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>>158995249
It's funny how he tries a passive aggressive approach.
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>>158943181
Pretty much. I supposed the nuanced writing approach is too hard for some people to stomach.
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>>158943228
I don't like the implications here. Has everyone forgot that this is Nanoha's franchise? It's right there in the name.
>brake
*break. Of all the people to mistake for a car in this particular series, man.
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>>158943353
>although seriously speaking, this whole fight is dumb, absurd, bad writing.
This whole manga is "dumb, absurd, bad writing". Are you not used to it yet?
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>>158943571
>So does this imply that every character Vivio jobbed to could retroactively shit all over Nanoha?
Did you need this fight to confirm that? Vivio herself could do that too. Any respect they had for the old guard (the one that put them in the map to begin with) has long since faded away.
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>>158943743
>The best part about Vivid is getting to see Nanoha being a mom.
It's just too bad the entire franchise had to die for it. Was it worth it? I personally don't feel it was. I would take a great, exciting series of magical girl adventures over some mom any day. Symphogear is the next best thing in this regard (even with GX), but I'd rather a Nanoha.
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>>158943748
Nanoha doesn't treat Vivio that badly. Maybe she will in the future, to hammer it in that Nanoha is bad.
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>>158943857
>Good to see Nanoha go back to the basics when she got her first friends.
>A good old fisticuffs.
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Could Feito-chan in a Ferrari Testarossa beat Dagumi in a race at Mount Akina?
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>>158943863
>can't even control her own daughter
They really defanged Nanoha. Do fans really like her better this way? Back then, she used to take no shits from anybody.
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>>158943935
>they have all this set up so their precious dumb faggot defeats the progenitor of the entire series
And no one sees anything wrong with this, right? Right.
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>>158944427
>So that means most Vivid Strike characters can beat up limited Nanoha like that?
No, it means everyone post A's can beat up limited Nanoha like that. Nanoha with no limits too.
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>>158944105
>After all, she even has to request permission to unleash fully in actual combat action in time of crisis.
It really enhances the action aspect (having less action is awesome!) of what once was an action series. A very good one, too, though I think I'm the only who would agree to that.
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>>158944478
Fuuka is the strongest. At least certainly stronger than that lame-o Nanoha. They should have Fuuka beat the shit out of Nanoha already, it's not like anyone will raise their hand and say it's wrong.
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>>158996719
Hey, there is no need to bait, Bitch-kun is self-sustained and needs no stimulation.
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>>158996785
But no one is baiting. It's 100% the truth.
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>>158996719
Fuuka is so shit not even her parents like her
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>>158996880
The fans like her. The fans also hate Nanoha. Thus my suggestion.
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>>158996830
But Fuuka got beaten by Einhart and Einhart was beaten by Nanoha. Hopefully you don't want to enter the slippery slope of proclaiming power level analysis unreliable.

Look here? Fuuka is the absolute bottom.
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>>158996719
Just have them race and give Nanoha a GTR. Fuuka and her Reventon wwill get BTFO.
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>>158996918
>But Fuuka got beaten by Einhart and Einhart was beaten by Nanoha.
Why does logical analysis of strength matter? The writers hate Nanoha, the fans hate Nanoha. There you go.
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>>158996931
>Just have them race
That would be exciting and fresh. The current crop of Nanoha fans do not appreciate such things.
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Oh, so it was just the ban-evader false-flagging. I don't get people talking to themselves.
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>>158944578
>>158944660
This. Just wait until the writers get tired of Vivio like they got tired of Nanoha. Logic doesn't matter when you got god's backing. By that time the fans will have also tired of Vivio so no fears of any backlash either.
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>>158997018
Hopefully the racing scenes have Eurobeat.
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>>158997070
>good music
Nah, they oppose that too. Look at how many fans creamed themselves over Angel Blossom and Future Strike. "Good music" is not a priority for the makers because it's not a priority for the fans. It used to, but those people have left long ago. Also see: Good writing.
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>>158997061
>I don't get people talking to themselves.
I mostly see this happening with people bumping threads from page 10, like how it was happening to this thread actually. And then there were people complaining about someone using the thread they so generously left alive for hours and I'm left asking what was the idea if "leave the thread alive so people can use it" wasn't it.
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>>158944599
>I don't actually read Vivid
Really? But it's the best thing since sliced bread. Much better than any Nanoha schmanoha relic of the past when we couldn't tell anime and japanese cartoons apart. Ask around, everyone in this thread agrees that Vivid rules and Nanoha drools.
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>>158944845
That's nice. Now more people will be able to read the masterpiece of writing that is Vivid, so good it leaves its predecessors dining on its dust. Equally as good is the insane devotion that these people have towards NOT translating other material, such as Gears of Destiny and stuff. True fans if I ever saw them.
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>>158997619
Do it yourself you lazy faggot
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>>158944904
>considering the state of Vivio as a character
You mean the best character ever of all time, super worthy of what it did to the franchise? You'd be right, but this doesn't connect well to the rest of your post. Did you mean something else?
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>>158997668
I don't have to, the translators such as ron will keep bringing all the important awesome new Nanoha stuff such as Vivid (and nothing else by the way) forever. We're so lucky to have fans like them. They are even more true fans than you are.
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>>158997619
>Gears

6 or 7?
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>>158944951
>TSAB holding a tournament to let aspiring kids fight the Instructor Corp mages.
Such an awesome plot, worthy of classic literature. I can't believe people used to enjoy such trash as "a book is consuming the life of its user, prompting its spawn to do all sorts of bad stuff to save them, all while being trapped inside a conspiracy to save the cosmos". Tournament arcs, man. That's the good shit.
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>>158997855
Are there cars with two gears?
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>>158997900
Electric cars only have one.
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>>158997958
That won't work, the Gears of Destiny are supposed to be two.
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>>158945020
>IMHO it should have been less brutal.
Why? That would make Nanoha not look bad, which is what Nanoha fans want. I'm sure they would also be satisfied with Vivio pounding Nanoha into the dirt and rubbing her face all the over the arena floor while gloating about her own superiority and how Nanoha will never amount to anything ever again, but that's neither here nor there.
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>>158945051
>She hasn't done anything to make Vivio hate her so.
Exactly. There wouldn't be any catharsis factor for the people who read Vivid.
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>>158945207
>Both Rinne and Fuuka are established to be weaker than Vivio
You just wait until the fans get tired of Vivio and demand she suffer the same fate as Nanoha.
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>>158945239
Yeah, that wouldn't have had the same impact. On the other hand, they could have gotten away with Vivio killing Vita given the fans' distaste for anything not Vivid. But on the other other hand, they could have also gotten away with Vivio killing Nanoha. Hell, they'd get all sorts of celebration from it.
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>>158945245
>Vivio needs to give her all to fight Nanoha
Not really. She has god mode, thanks to the creators and the fans alike. All she has to do is stare at Nanoha hard enough and Nanoha'll explode.
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>>158945258
Anyone could. One wonders why they even have such shitters like Vita, Nanoha or Hayate around. They should remove them and replace them with Vivio, Einhart and the like. Nobody would be upset, what's taking them so long?
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>>158997070
Some music like that wouldn't go bad with Nanoha I think.

Think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws2o2nFQvP0
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>>158999212
>Nanoha
Who? I'm a true Nanoha fan so I don't know who that is.
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>>158970688
Nanoha would
Feito, maybe not.
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Please post Corona
She's my favorite from the Vivid cast
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>>158999383
Wouldn't it be the opposite?
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>>158973696
Shes the one who bosses the maid around.
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>>158999383
>>158999436
>guys
That'd be great. Destroy the last shred of credibility Nanoha has with a mighty swing. We Vivid now, like all True Nanoha Fans do.
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>>158999383
Doujinshi fanon Feito would freak out comedically.
Real Fate would, she's worrywart but not really an airhead.

They are both the type that will accept it when their kid has queer sexual orientation.
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>>158999490
I mean Fate already let Caro date her own pseudo-brother, she really doesn't give a fuck
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Sometimes doujin authors suck.
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>>158999547
>Caro
Who?
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>>158999514
>>158999576
>doujinshit
You're disrespecting the holy purity of Vivid, anon.
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>>158999579
The loli that can defeat Hayate in a fight.
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>>158999411
Yeah, do it. She's one of the greatest characters ever.
>tfw someone says S1 and A's had "good writing" or "good characterization" or good anything
They clearly haven't read Vivid lol
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>>158999652
You mean anybody?
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WHY ARE THEY'RE EYES SO FUCKING HUGE
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>>158999700
She is the only loli in the cast.
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>>158999704
It makes them good characters, the best characters even. Some people like to think it all comes down to the writing of the source, but they're wrong. Ask any true Nanoha fan, they'll agree.
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>>158999704
I recall how people (including me) were freaking out over that first early poster of Movie 1st.
>WTF are those eyes, orange-sized now?

>>158999652
>>158999741
Curren/Cullen also has little girl form, IIRC?
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>>158999741
Not according to the true Nanoha fans here. And given their credentials (having read all of VIVID, man), I'd rather trust them than you.
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>>158999823
>WTF are those eyes, orange-sized now?
That's not what happened. What happened was (paraphrasing)
>WTF is this Nanoha shit, where is muh Vivid, Vivid is what we all want, no one cares about Nanoha anymore, much less the Nanoha fans, are they stupid?
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>>158999823
She doesn't look like a loli.
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>>158999918
>he still thinks his word can stack up against a fan's
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Reminder that hating children that went through traumatic past is rotten character. Well hating children at all is already.
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Reminder that hating children that went through traumatic past is rotten character. Well hating children at all is already.
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>>159001732
Well said anon. It's almost as if you took it out of my mouth.
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Hmm, Nanoha really contains lots of those.
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>lost mom

>lost mom, dad, then the brother that was her last family
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>Lost parents, then first love(?)
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>turned into weapon of war with magical curse, suffering through belkan wars
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>>159001841
Caro probably had the shittiest childhood out of all the kids in this franchise.
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>>159001523
Reminder that anyone that doesn't hate Nanoha is not a True Nanoha Fan™.
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>Used for experiments and blowing people up into pulp, hanged naked on the wall
>Every relative + people in home village killed
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>hanged naked on a wall, used for torturing experiments
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>>159001732
Reminder that anyone that doesn't hate Nanoha is not a True Nanoha Fan™.
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>>159001841
That's because he did. But what can you do, unoriginality and the love of which is essential to have for any Nanoha fan. Remember the myriad of Fate clones that are better than Fate? I sure do.
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>Lost dad
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>>159001891
>pre-Vivid garbage
Who even is that? I didn't really pay attention until they hit it out of the park with Vivid. Wasn't that really amazing, fellow Nanoha fan?
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>>159001944
Not being Vivio is the greatest tragedy for them. It meant they were destined to mediocrity, and sure enough.
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>treated like an animal, taken away from (fake?) parents
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>>159001985
>then first love
Who? Nobody that isn't Vivio is allowed to love or be loved, that's an order from the Vivid editor after he received feedback from the fans telling him how much of a good job he made out of the Nanoha franchise and how to keep improving it.
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>>159002481
>implying Vivio was not Hayate's first love
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>>159002054
Not really. Her season introduced Vivio to the franchise, which automatically makes everything good.
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I think Tsuzuki really likes giving the sad kids better future and happiness, it's the constant theme. Talk shit about him, but that is a sign of a gentle person. I have more respect for him now.

Also if that is what he wants to put in the stories, then it is obvious why he keeps adding characters usually - he needs new kids.
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>>159002568
Retconned out at fan's request to fit with the current Nanoha canon, in which Vivio is the center of the universe and who's Nanoha, again?
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>>159002481
Nanoha and Fate broke the rules, and we all know what happened to them.
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>>159002656
>he needs new kids.
Maybe thats also why everybody is an orphan.
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>>159002656
Ah of course! That must be the exact reason why he gave his baby, Lyrical Nanoha, a continuation such as Vivid. Now it all makes sense, it was to give a better future and happiness, I can't believe it eluded us for so long. What better future for an action series than being turned into boring SoL tournament arc poorly-written mess that turned the entire franchise into a joke? That was a serious question, I can't imagine a better future than that. "Consistency" is just a buzzword for those people who want their series to remain good instead of evolving into a stale bowl of porridge, the dumb sods.

>>159002765
See, it's like I said.
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>>159002054
I would probably pick to be Caro, from all these.
She was abandoned but if you can grow up to forgive them, she at least knows the tribe and people she knew went on to live normally (no parents killed etc).
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>>159002913
>not picking to be Vivio
It's like you don't love Nanoha to bits.
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I wonder if this is the reason I'm not particularly drawn to the materials (compared to other characters, not that I hate them).

They are basically edgy kids acting cool, but they don't have past, there is nothing that would make you feel for them above the normal sentiment of generally not wanting to see any people harmed/unhappy.
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>>159002913
I'd rather have dead parents who love me than a bunch of people that hate me and are living a happy life without me.
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>>159003319
If I had to guess, I'd say it's the inherent allergic reaction to any characters written and designed sensibly that's exhibited by all Nanoha fans. It doesn't matter however, we'll have always have Vivio.
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>>159003341
Well, it was a tribe, primitive cultures have their rules and weird customs. That's why I think I could forgive them I think, or rationalise it. They didn't drive her away because they were terrible people, it's to large degree the culture.

I wouldn't want to have loving but dead parents, compared to the above.
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>>159003434
>That's why I think I could forgive them I think, or rationalise it.
It's simply because of her connection to Vivio. Again, Vivio makes everything good.
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When is Vivid S2 airing again?
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>>159003709
Not soon enough. At this rate, people will actually remember Nanoha! This is some mismanagement, I tell you.
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>>159003709
There isn't a second Vivid anime announced yet.
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>>159003760
There should be.
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>>159003434
It is definitely not a cultural thing. Sending off little kids to fend for themselves is not normal, Caro was forced into exile because her people feared her. In a planet that seems to be in constant winter. At best her tribe did not care what happened to her and at worse they were wishing she died out there.
And then there is all the bullshit she when through in the TSAB before she met Fate. No unit wanted her and they only keep her around to use as a suicide bomb in case they were against a large group of enemies.
Her childhood was the shittiest. Having Fate as a long distance surrogate parent and Erio as a brother she didn't meet for years was the best thing that happened to her.
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>All this falseflag-samefag spam nobody is interested in
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>>159003910
Nah, Vivio is the best thing that happened to her. What, are you not a Nanoha fan?
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>>159003935
Wrong thread? All I see is true Nanoha discussion between true Nanoha fans.
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>>159003910
>Caro was forced into exile because her people feared her. In a planet that seems to be in constant winter. At best her tribe did not care what happened to her and at worse they were wishing she died out there.

That's actually quite normal for primitive cultures. If you are unlucky to stand out, very bad things can happen.

For example, even currently in Africa, terrible things happen to albinos. The primitive societies have stupid prejudices/beliefs that lead to innocent people being killed, hunted or ostracised. Often you can be suspected of being vampire/witch or something like that and that often leads to banishment, even a cruel and daming one, or straight lynch/death. Normal business, and as said, in those cases it is mostly the cultural system to be blamed, primitive people can't really go against it.

Caro' story is nothing far-fetched and her actual family members could well love her for real, although they probably were driven to fear her too.
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>>159003935
>>159004068
Case in point: >>159004086
Only true Nanoha fans would pretend the terrible writing in StrikerS actually means anything and isn't just, you know, terrible writing.
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In any case, I'm galde she made it and turned into a fine woman, even if very short and flat. Those are not bad things, her breast will grow when she has kids anyway!
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>>159004217
Glad, even. Damn. These minute-taking captches are tiring me out.
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>>159004217
>galde

>>159004257
Have you tried rewatching the Vivid anime? As a true Nanoha fan, it should calm you down.
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>>159004086
It is not the same. Those people are ostracized because they go against the established norms of that society. The fear, in a way, is justified.
Caro is a dragon summoner who has a contract with a dragon god, in a tribe of dragon summoners. Kicking her off is just a dick move.
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>>159004347
Are you dense? It's thanks to them that she got to meet Vivio. It's like you don't appreciate what Vivio is doing to this aging franchise.
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>>158997619
I actually had been preparing another set of extras that fit with Reflection. I was going to release them leading up to the movie. But circumstances in the community haven't allowed for them so I was Forced to put those projects on an indefinite hiatus.

I am still working on stuff though. Might have something big before the movie comes out.
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>>159004423
>lies
Yeah that must have been super difficult to come up with
>a fucking Force pun
Sure smells like effort alright
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>>159004347
She was too powerful (different), that can really be the same thing. Primitive culture just has mechanism to curb the outfliers. In the case of the albinos, they are completely innocent. Or left-handed people, mentally ill, it goes on.

In any case, I'm not defending what happened, far from that. These things are terrible and it was a tragedy for her. When I was studying anthropology a bit at uni, I kept feeling a lot of contempt towards all those tribal customs and ways.
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>>159004533
>In any case, I'm not defending what happened, far from that. These things are terrible and it was a tragedy for her.
>>159004417
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>>159004423
Thanks for always doing stuff.
You are putting a lot of time into it, people who have not fansubbed etc don't know what sort chore/sacrifice it can be.
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>>159004767
This. The love for the franchise being displayed here is nothing short of delightful, and the effort it must take shouldn't be understated. Japanese is fucking hard, man. If I knew Japanese, I'd do the exact same thing - translating bad manga and bad anime that has a bad impact on this now-bad franchise and bad community while also claiming to be part of it and to want to improve things, and pulling the sorriest, most effortless lies I can out my fat ass when looking at something untranslated that would, in fact, do the thing I'm claiming to be doing. It really is special.
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>>159004533
>I was studying anthropology a bit at uni
That explains a lot.
It is not the same, societies in general do have mechanisms to weed out the unwanted but just because they discriminate against the different it does not mean everybody who is different is discriminated the same. It is not all the same. Humans are a bit more complicated than that.
In this context getting rid of Caro is less like getting rid off an albino and more like getting rid off a good hunter because he makes better arrows than you.
There is no stigma associated with Caro, they feared her for no reason. It is just a dick move.
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Is Bitchfag LRD?
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>>159005123
Not all shitposters are the same fag.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Reflection doesn't get any subs either, BD or not. Or at least it won't be by these translators that oh-so-love Nanoha. I'll put my money on Commie having to do it again.
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>>159004982
>more like getting rid off a good hunter because he makes better arrows than you.
>There is no stigma associated with Caro, they feared her for no reason.

I think you are wrong there. It is few years since I watched it, but I think the takeaway was that she was exceptionally powerful and they just feared her power. Well, Voltaire could be incredibly destructive, so maybe it was not without reason.

If she was the strongest summoner, they would likely not cast her out just out of envy. The problem was that she was way way more powerful than that.

BTW the bit could have been inspired by Ashitaka in Princess Mononoke, who is also cast out not in ill will, but before he was danger to the tribe. With him it was quite factual, with Caro it was maybe more in the realm of fears and doubts, but still. She actually could have been dangerous as a kid too, she would obviously have little intelligence/wisdom and less control over the summon when 4-5 years old.

In any case, if you interpret it differently that's fine. I just think it was not case of tragedy caused by evil intent, but a case of tragedy caused without evil intent, which is also something occurring in in Nanoha plots.
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>>159005215
What about ron? He subbed everything to do with Vivid Strike last season including bonus comic and movie commentary.
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>>159005426
You mean one of those "translators that oh-so-love Nanoha"? I wouldn't put much faith in him. He already showed how much he "loves" Nanoha by subbing all the Vivid Strike trash you mention. He doesn't give a shit about anything but his Fuuka waifu and you shouldn't expect him to. He's a modern Nanoha fan after all.
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>>159005426
You're replying to Bitchfag falseflagging.
And ron also posted in this thread half an hour ago confirming that he's still working. So yeah, it's not an issue.
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>>159005198
Just making sure it wasn't LRD changing his shitposting strategy
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>>159005531
Of course he's still working. I wonder what iteration of Vivid is he going to bring us next. Actually, I wonder what the response is going to be. How much will be hailed as a true fan or some such when all he's doing (and all YOU're doing) is accelerating the fall of that thing you claim to be a fan of. What was it called again? Not even you know, do you?
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>>159005659
He is going to get a job in 7arcs and give us a new season of vivid strike.
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>>159005885
No shit. The real question is if that goal is above or below "torture Tsuzuki/the relevant person until he gives full ownership of the Nanoha IP". Then it will be nothing but Vivid Strike till the end of time. You truly are the Nanoha fans.
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>>159005958
Is this just an elaborate "stop liking what I don't like"?
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>>159006005
You're free to like what you like. If that involves killing a once great franchise then who cares, right? I mean pffft, quality stories? Good animation? What the fuck is even that, I want muh waifu fuuka wwwww im a true nanoha fan!
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>>159006005
I don't think he even knows what he wants.

Probably people agreeing with him and talking with him in the way he wants, but that is hard to fulfil, because there isn't really much he's saying himself.
>Everything after As is shit, I hate it
>I'm special Nanoha fan
>Reflection is awesome/going to be great although idunno how
>I like materials

I guess he would be happy if everybody posted some variations of those in their own words and nothing else. Well, he's bound to be disappointed but such is life.
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I'm rather lost, why do (Japanese?) fans hate Nanoha these days, exactly?
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>>159006225
>I like materials

Wait what? Weren't the PSP games written after A's so therefore they should be shit in his eyes?
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I guess the reason he always falls apart into autistic shrieking is because he wants people to "discuss Nanoha" but then he doesn't actually have anything to put into such conversation, or anything to start it with.

Is it a bot failing the Turing test?
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>>159006304
So is reflection but we fake nanoha fans will never be able to understand him.
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>>158999514
>>158999576
Cute
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>>159006276
It's too good for them. Have you never felt that? You're watching an anime, you're near the end, and then you feel like the show you're watching it's actually pretty good. You're excited for the finale. Doesn't that piss you the hell right off? Why the fuck is this show so good? What the hell is wrong with this goddamn planet? Fuck, now I'm going to infect the discussion for this show so no one else can like it either.

You can say "that doesn't make any sense", and it doesn't, but it makes about as much sense as the fact that there are actually nutcases (in PLURAL) that prefer Vivid and hate Nanoha with a passion. They weren't here before, I don't know where they came from and I don't understand why they won't leave if they hate Nanoha so much.
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>>159006304
Or maybe you're a retard that falls for whatever any old anon says about anything. Is that why you hate Nanoha so much? Because some anon told you "oh yeah it sucks" when introducing you to it?
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>>158932515
Yes.
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>>159006335
Can humans fail the turing test?
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>>159006446
>>159006335
>Is it a bot failing the Turing test?
In a way, yes. We're all naturally occurring robots and the computer in his head is broken in some way that prevents him from demonstrating any typically recognizable signs of self-awareness.
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>>158980291
>Takamachi.Vivio.small.2087660.jpg
>2350x5722
>small

large size where?
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>>159006428
That one looks odd.
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>>159006428
Super cute. I always thought the sight of a strong franchise I enjoyed was cute, but clearly I was wrong, and its ruins are much cuter. Thanks for helping me see the light, True Nanoha Fan!
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>>159006559
Is Nanoha the only thing you have in your life?
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>>159006421
I don't like Vivid cause it's boring but holy shit saying liking Vivid=hating Nanoha is one of the most autistic things I've seen.
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I haven't watched Vivid yet, does Vivio get a "best friend" too?
What's this NTR shit you guys are talking about?
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>>159006676
>I haven't watched Vivid yet
But it's a pre-requirement to be a True Nanoha Fan. Alongside hating Nanoha but you'll get to that part soon enough if you like Vivid.
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>>159006676
It's honestly better to read it since they never even got to the interesting shit like the infinite library or belken flashback.
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>>159006627
The truth is autistic?
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>>159006676
Vivio's future wife is getting a bit too close to her classmate. Also half of the official art now pairs Einhart with Yumina instead of Vivio.
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>>159006676
Vivio's previous life boyfriend stopped appearing in official art with her and they are hanging out considerably less as of Vivid Strike while a new girl showed and is with Einfart all the time
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>>159006760
>opinions=truth
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>>159006786
It's not an opinion.
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>>159006724
The anime covers quite well the part where Nanoha is reduced into a prank.
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>>159006717
I see...

>>159006724
I may read it later.

>>159006762
>>159006783
Oh, so her original best friend got sidelined?
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>>159006676
She gets her own Fate 2.0 but then a dorobo neko steals her away.

>>159006724
Unless he knows chinese thats impossible.
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>>159006837
More like Vivio got sidelined and Ein took her spot as the MC
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>>159006797
It's your opinion that is not your opinion. If you think it's a fact show and explain the evidence.
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>>159006829
>Nanoha is reduced into a prank
What?

>>159006865
What?
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>>159006837
>...
Pretty much what I expected from someone who is seriously considering experiencing fucking Vivid. On the plus side, you'll fit alongside the rest of the haters just fine.
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>>159006837
Quite the contrary, Vivio is the one that gets sidelined.
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honestly vivid strike was a mistake.
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>>159006868
>It's your opinion that is not your opinion.
That's not how it works.
>If you think it's a fact show and explain the evidence.
If they liked Nanoha, why would they overrun and derail every single Nanoha thread there is?
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>>159006948
>That's not how it works.
And this is also an opinion.

>If they liked Nanoha, why would they overrun and derail every single Nanoha thread there is?
And this a rhetorical question, not evidence.
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>>159006948
So you're just mad that they're posting about a part of the series you don't like?
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>>159006934
No it's not, it's perfect. As a True Nanoha Fan, I can tell you that the part where the series sank even further into the depths of hell for no real reason was absolutely stunning. It really made the experience come together, seeing Nanoha dragged through the mud some more because yes. I will never forget it.
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>>159006676
It's just one guy who is fucking consumed with spamming about it.
Notice how it never happened before episode 4 of vivid strike aired.
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>>159006912
What?

>>159006925
So... this Einhart girl pulled a Kira on Vivio's Shinn?
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>>159007046
We didn't have Nanoha threads overrun with Vivid posters each and every single time as well as a huge opinion shift before episode 4 of Vivid Strike aired either! What a quacking coincidence that is!
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>>159007004
And he has posted maybe 150+ posts here ranting like that. So please ignore him, today and every time. Got banned/deleted earlier, but no such luck tonight.
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>>159006986
>it's not an opinion because i don't like it
Now this is an opinion.

>>159007004
No I'm mad because I can't talk about Nanoha anymore.
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>>159007064
The author loves Ein and probably is going to end the manga soon to give Ein her own manga.
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>>159007080
Nah, there were actually less posters after four aired. The insane spammer drove a lot of people away.
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>>159007140
>Now this is an opinion.
And you greentexting is also an opinion, but also a meme.
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>>159007172
>That's fair.
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>>159007097
>Got banned/deleted earlier, but no such luck tonight.
I don't think there are /a/ mods anymore since even ACK's stuff doesn't get deleted.
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>>159007151
Einhart is incredibly boring as a protag
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>>159007151
I see, so is Einhart at least a good character?
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>>159007216
You can't win against autism, unfortunately
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>>159007218
Didn't stop Subaru, Vivio, Fuuka or Thoma. And the fans love them, too! Boring protagonists are all the rage!
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>>159007218
To be fair, so is Vivio. I think Fuuka would be a better choice as the new MC but that's just me.
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Good night everyone, mainly the sane anons.

>>159007140
Study this, idiot: >>159006225

You lie, you make stuff up, and you think you can tell others what to do. No wonder. But as said, I don't think you were ever able to contribute even to convos about S1/S2/Refl.
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>>159007272
I actually like Vivio, she's a sweetheart who tries her best
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>>159007163
>Nah, there were actually less posters after four aired.
This is incorrect.
>The insane spammer drove a lot of people away.
No shit. They couldn't talk about Nanoha in Nanoha threads any longer because of all the Vivid spam.
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>>159007218
Like most harem protagonists tend to be.
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>>159007315
>I actually like Vivio
She ruined Nanoha forever, how can anyone not love her? All true Nanoha fans love her.
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>>159007236
She's fine, she's definitely changed as a character since the first chapter. Vivio hasn't really changed at all.
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>>159007340
*Like most post-A's characters tend to be.

Just the way the true fans like it. Entertaining characters are for pansies.
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Haru-nyan >>> Einhart-san
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>>159007317
>>159007340
>This is incorrect.
No, it is correct. And you are the one "spamming vivid".
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>>159007284
>You lie, you make stuff up, and you think you can tell others what to do.
How fucking ironic coming from a spammer.
>But as said, I don't think you were ever able to contribute even to convos about S1/S2/Refl.
I've contributed more to Nanoha discussions (actual Nanoha discussions) than you can possibly fathom. Not that you can fathom much besides muh fuuka.
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>>159007425
Bad Nanoha stuff >>> Good Nanoha stuff
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>>159007442
Whining about people discussing a part of the series you don't like is not discussion
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>>159007218
We haven't really known what's going on in her head lately to say that.
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At least bitchfag stopped using his passive aggressive method of shitposting
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>>159007549
>I'm the best
>just the best
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>>159007635
I think it's because he popped a vein after realizing that he screwed himself out of a GoD translation.
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>>159007763
>someone screwed themselves out of something that wasn't going to happen
?
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>>159007745
That's probably true
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>>159007549
>>159007745
>>159007810
>man i sure as hell helped turn this franchise into a puddle of piss
>my feet hurt
>i'm so proud of myself
>nanoha fans are proud of me too
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>>159007867
I wish the mod would deal with you ban evading when you do all your different kinds of baiting and spamming.
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Someone please make a Fuuka doujin already
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>>159008699
Yeah because that exactly what we need. Even more acknowledgement that that horrible mistake ever happened. Oh right, I'm talking to a True Nanoha Fan here.
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>>159008699
There's no doujins for this series because there's no boys.
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>>159008699
No. Fuuka is not for lewds.
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>>159008745
>>159008699
Your life was easily the biggest mistake of this generation, possibly even all time.
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>>159008924
There's no doujins for Vivid Strike because it's trash and not even the nips would stoop that low.
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>>159008924
That doesn't have anything to do with anything.
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>>159008924
Fuuka us a tomboy though
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>>159008934
Fuuka is for nothing but for Nanoha haters to destroy the franchise.
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>>159008975
Fuuka is a shit, though.
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>>159008988
I like how you know that you're out smarted, which is why you never reply to posts that point how how you're actually the one who hates Nanoha.
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>>159008975
Unless tomboys have dicks to rape the other girls, we're not getting doujins.

Pure yuri doujins are rarer than a steak cooked at 135°F.
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>>159008924
There's that crossdresser twink, Miura
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>>159008975
She is too cute to be a tomboy.
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>>159009065
There's also actually good characters. Not that you know about them.
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>>159009072
But not too shit to ruin the franchise, and with the fans' support too.
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