Hello, I'm here to save Apocrypha
Who is this whore saber?
>>158898272
>tfw you will never have oyakodon with Mordred & Arturia
>>158898415
Probably
>>158900739
Tomboys are for oyakodon!
>>158904194
>implying mordred would let anyone touch her chichiue besides her
>>158898272
Give me a quick rundown on this Saber clone.
will Shiro like his wife daughter ?
>>158904391
She's the red Saberface with small tits, not the red Saberface with big tits
>>158904391
a literal clone
6-8 years old
chichiue complex
fucking cute
wants to use the grail to pull the sword from the stone
likes to fight
dies
>Not animated by ufotable
Why should I watch this trash? Its not real fate if its not animated by ufo, its a far cry from qualtiy of fate zero.
No thanks, Il rather wait for Sakura route than watch this filler stuff. Its not simply fate without the quality
>>158904836
>fate
>quality
>>158904836
I get it that you like rhinos
>>158904536
>dies
dropped
>>158905474
?
>>158898272
Shirou and Mordred would be a great team. That edge cut everything.
>>158904305
>implying mordred wouldn't want to make out with arturia as they ride the same man
>>158898415
My wife
Was not focusing on them a mistake?
>>158911734
Literally focusing on anyone but Sieg would have been the right call.
>>158898272
Mordy is one of the best parts of F/A but she isnt the only good character there
Others include:
Semi
Shakespear
NotShirou
Atalanta
Kairi
Jack
>>158904391
Like all tomboys, she should be fucked in a threesome with her mother.
>>158904305
>Saber and Shirou in a relationship
>Somehow Mordred comes along
I would legitimately watch an entire series of everyday life in the Emiya Household with Saber and Shirou somehow having to deal with Mordred.
Rin, Archer, Gilgamesh and Cu would also make appearances.
>>158905091
Technically she is already dead and has been for centuries.
All Servants die once their respective HGW ends. Except if you are Gil. He is too rich to die.
>>158904836
This series will be better than the HF adaption.
>>158912473
This sounds like the most comfy setting ever suggested.
A semen demon
>>158912667
Mordy is hot.
Stupid sexy matricide
or it's the other?
>>158912780
*patricide
>>158913045
Stupid sexy Mordy
>>158912473
We all would anon.
How old are Artoria and Mordred?
>>158913647
Mordred is like five years old.
>>158913647
>Arturia
Around 25
>Mordy
Between 5 to 8
So here's the question, can I watch this shit with basic knowledge about the Natsuverse but without playing, reading or watching its shit?
>>158912473
Oyakodon for breakfast, lunch & dinner.
>>158913865
>wanting to watch this before F/Z or the F/SN anime
Dont be dumb.
>>158913647
Mordred is sex year old
>>158913865
Don't be retarded.
>>158912473
>Mordy constantly battling the desire to hate Shirou for romancing Arturia and deep respect for him for being able to romance Arturia and cause her to relax a bit
Shit would be comfy as all fuck.
>>158913647
Arturia is canonically 25 while Mordred is only a couple years young.
>>158913865
Don't be an idiot.
>>158913865
Yes.
>>158913865
Dont be a fool
>>158913865
Dont be stupid.
>>158912473
Someone call Takeuchi and get him to drag Nasu away from Bloodborne to make this a reality.
>>158898272
>the best Saber is here
My body is ready.
>>158913865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sea_pUoczag
>>158915391
Mordy is dumb love
>>158914644
But anon,that isn't Gawain
>>158913865
Read everything.
>>158915391
Why did no one ever bother to tell me that Mordy is Miyuki Fucking Sawashiro.
>>158915914
Sorry anon
>>158915914
Cause you didn't ask.
>>158912521
Solomon did not.
>>158915914
It's like two year old news when Mo-san got her VA.
Man, I cant wait to see Mordy animated but I am going to miss how she is presented in the Fate/GudaGuda audio series. Such a lovable baka in those episodes.
>>158913865
>>158912473
>My Wife's son (female)
>>158916654
He would likely end up Jackhammering his wife's son, lets be honest.
>>158916654
And he'd be the mother.
>Father, I want to be King. Give me the crown.
>Mordred, I dont give a fuck about being King anymore. I just want a life with Shirou.
>Father, I want a life with Shirou. Give him to me
Shiro/Arturia/Mordy would make a comfy sitcom crew
>>158916846
>Noone has the "Poor little White Guy" with Shirou and all Saber
>>158917050
>Mordred demanding that Shirou buy her underwear because she heard that he buys Arturia underwear
Hot and cute as fuck. This premise has so many places it could go.
>>158917173
More like "Poor Little Red Man"
>Iskander claims being a king should be seen as desirable, not a burden
>literally the only person who desired taking Arturia's place fucked the whole kingdom up
Pottery.
>>158917432
Iskander was a dumbfuck anyways.
>>158917050
Throw in the nephews and half-brothers to make it comedy gold.
>>158917432
She didn't want the throne, she wanted daddy's approval and used the throne as a means to try and get it.
>>158917849
>OC's
>when you have the RT gaggle of retards
>not wanting bad dad Lancelot, dumb Gawain, primadonna Tristan, good guy bedivere and uncle agravain
>>158912521
Medusa
Solomon
Astolfo
Extellashit
>>158917050
>Shiro/Arturia/Mordy would make a comfy sitcom crew
Mordred has Jekyll.
>>158912521
>HGW ends.
there are ways around it, namely incarnation through the grail/magic
How many episodes is Apocrypha going to be and would she get decent enough screen time?
>>158918051
This.
>>158917958
Agravain and Gawain are Mordred's half brothers and Artoria's nephews.
>>158918078
she gets some screentime, but she isnt the MCshe dies with her master half way through
>>158918078
She get's beat up by a horse.
>>158918234
Well shit, they looked like the coolest duo.
>>158918289
They are.
I want to shoot a month's worth of semen in both Arturia and Mordred.
>>158918203
No, they are not mordred is clon of arthur and blood of morgana
>>158912521
Merlyn is alive locked up all eternity in avalon, but alive
>>158918234
Vol 5 is not halfway through. It's the last volume.
>>158917958
Agravain would be the best
>>158918991
>>158918456
>just a month
>>158918662
And Gawain and Agravain are Morgan's sons, so they're half siblings
>>158918991
http://www.toranoana.jp/mailorder/article/04/0030/54/47/040030544791.html
I hope someone buys it.
>>158919038
I wish they'd make Agravain available in GO already.
>>158917432
Iskander wasn't right by any measure. Neither was Gil. They were just confident in their answers in a way that Saber very much wasn't.
>>158919088
What the fuck are you talking about?
Fate/Zero English cast interview
https://mega.nz/#!KtR1RIpB!9t0fzbV3HchRpi71t3tjPNHi9HBB3Iidcvw5zhk-3eI
>>158920806
Follow the chain dummy
>>158913865
>Fate/Stay Night
-Fate/Stay Night
Fate tells the story of Emiya Shirou, who accidentally summons Saber and is dragged into the 5th Holy Grail War. As the story progresses, Shirou meets various friends and foes as they uncover the truth behind the Grail War. There are three stories in the game, each telling an alternate version of the story, revealing different aspects of the Grail War and the characters involved.
Story I: Fate
Story II: UBW
Story III: HF / Other Night
-Fate/Stay Night: Realta Nua
Updated version of Fate/Stay Night for PS2, PS Vita and iOS. All 18+ materials were taken out, new features include all-new CG and plots, voice acting, and other improvements. The new PC version released as three separate games, each containing one of the game's stories.
-Fate/Stay Night: Garden of Avalon
Short story about Saber. Don't read this until completing FSN Story I: Fate.
-Fate/Hollow Ataraxia
Sequel story to FSN. In Ataraxia Shirou finds himself stuck in a 4-day time loop that reenacts the events of the 5th Holy Grail War. Shirou must deal with a new Master, Bazett Fraga McRemitz, and her servant Avenger, as well as a mysterious woman named Karen Ortensia, all the while figuring out how to escape from the time loop.
Don't play or watch this until completing FSN.
-Fate/Zero
Prequel story to FSN. Takes place 10 years before the events of Fate/Stay Night, and involves family members of characters from the 5th Holy Grail War, as well as some familiar faces from the original game.
Don't read or watch this until completing FSN.
-Fate/Unlimited Codes
Fighting game based on Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Hollow Ataraxia.
-The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II
Spinoff of Fate/Zero. Don't read this until completing FSN and FZ.
>>158912543
>>158904836
>>158905011
How bad will HF be?
>>158920806
Agravain and Gawain are Morgan's, Artoria's sister's, children by different men.
Mordred is a Homunculus made using Artoria's sperm and incubated in Morgan's body.
Therefore Mordred, Agravain, and Gawain are all half siblings.
>>158921664
I prefer this family tree myself.
>not animated by ufotable
Thanks fucking god.
>>158913865
This is shit regardless. You either happily eat this crap or move to another poochise.
>>158921885
because there's so much to ruin with Apocrypha
>>158921765
how do I get into this franchise? do i need to watch re zero before fate zero?
>>158922090
Yes.
>>158921664
Saber Lancer and Saber Lancer Alter try to please Gudao for love, but spill all their spaghetti. Ohohohoho
>>158921664
Gawain imouto when?
>>158898272
Sup, I'm here to save it with you.Remember when this franchise used several Masters as characters?
>>158922621
>Kairi
>Shirou
>Gordes
>Darnic
>Fiore
>Celenike
>Roche
>Caules
>Reika
>Sieg
Sounds like plenty to me.
>>158922514
I want to marry both of them.
>>158922946
Apocrypha ended almost 3 years ago, anon. I'm talking about the more recent Extella and GO.
How far along is Strange Fake?
>>158923095
Four volumes, in which Narita revealed he's extending it past the originally planned five volumes, but who the hell didn't see that coming.
>>158923095
Four volume and still at day 2.
>>158923247
I want to plunder her land.
>>158918203
>>158919088
>>158921038
No, Gawain, Gareth and Agravain share same father. Agravain and Mordred are children of Morgan and used by her to shit on Camelot
I hope Reika is the final boss before she inevitably dies.
>>158924872
I'm pretty sure Gawain, Gareth, and Agravain are all children of Morgan with the King of Scotland. Agravain was a pawn of Morgan to kill Arthur but he ended up being loyal.
I just noticed something rather peculiar. Try reading this as if it were meta-commentary from Narita leaking into Dumas' dialogue.
>>158898415
Normal Saber's son (female)
>>158913865
just play melty blood
>>158925482
He's talking about Dantes, yes.
>>158925482
I do't get it.
>>158925666
I really don't see any way for Dantes and Dumas to get along. Dantes just seems like he'd hate Dumas purely on personality
>>158925350
It's good that GO gave her not shit parents.
>>158925684
From the notes at the end of the previous volume, pic related:
Also, in that same previous volume, there's an exchange in which the same two characters discuss The Count of Monte Cristo and the possible real-world existence of Edmond Dantes.
>>158925922
On the contrary though, Dumas seems to enjoy people like Dantes and his Master. He's also the annoying kind of person that would force himself on others, even if they hated him.
>>158926014
Dumas might like him, but Dantes wouldn't like Dumas.
>>158926054
There is the off chance that Dantes did have some weird friendship with Dumas. He's nice to Shakespeare in GO for no reason other than he's an author Caster.
>>158925922
I remember that he was very chill with other authors in FGO, I don't think he hate Dumas.
Posting superior tomboy donut steel Saberface. Not that Mordred is bad or anything.
>>158925350
I can't wait for my wife's anime!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aniplex.fategrandorder.en
>>158927281
What are my chances of getting Mordred?
>>158927325
All you need to do is want Saber.
>>158915391
>>158927325
Zero until London hits.
Is the GO app supposed to be functional now, at our current 'midnight', or in 24 hours?
>>158927989
9PM PDT, convert it from whatever your timezone is.
>>158927989
It's 21 hours from now. Also fuck off, there's a general for mobile trash in a containment board.
>>158928200
Then FSN, HA, Apocrypha, Strange Fake, Extra and CCC can't be discussed here, either. They are purely /jp/ and /v/ material, after all. Only their adaptations can be discussed, by the rules of /a/. Right? Or is it simply that you have a severely misguided perception of the rules because of a certain innate bias that you hold?
>>158928291
Go ahead and report all those posts, then. I'm just telling you there's an already a dedicated thread for what you want with active discussion, whereas all of those don't have that luxury so we might as well use any Fate thread for them.
>>158928588
>I'm just telling you ...
I know that. I simply asked a brief question which I knew could be answered by at least one person here. You overreacted to a nonissue.
>>158912473
>>158912579
>>158914057
>>158914628
>>158913951
TRULY.
DISGUSTING.
SELF-INSERT SHITS.
The Fate series went to shit when these fucks became way too invested in their self-insert and keep writing these shitty fanfics in every thread.
It's like how everyone wants Natsu to fuck every Fairy Tail heroine just because he's the MC.
Scummy shits.
I liked it better when Mordred was a man (as in actual man with a penis) that just looked like Saber.
>>158929502
wew lad
Just had a cheeky wank to the King's daughter lads.
>>158929553
Was Mordred's face even shown in F/SN?
>>158898415
Saber grew a magic futa dick and impregnated her sister. The result is this chav slut with daddy issues
Mordred a cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjiQuou65UY
>>158929740
It was shown in Shirou's dreams for the anime
>>158925967
Swimsuit Artoria treats her like crap, Lancer Alter either ignores her or tries to kill her, in no particular order, and the Lion King lets her slowly kill herself in a soul-destroying rampage of ethnic cleansing. Nightingale is just downright abusive.
None of these parents are "not shit".
>>158913045
>tfw immediately know it's mordred
>not sure how I know
>examine image closely, missing ahoge
how many hours till English GO drops ?
>>158933737
16 hours
>>158933737
Turns out the translations were done by ESLs. There's grammatical errors even in the promotional material.
Remember that Mordred will be voiced by the greatest seiyuu alive
>>158933266
Lily absolutely adores Mordred.
Too bad Lily acts more like an imouto than a father.
>>158898272
I had a dream where I was with Saber Alter and Jeanne Alter having a great time. Am I too far gone?
>>158913865
If you want to get into fate without reading the VN (you're an idiot) watch Unlimited Blade works then Zero
>>158921885
what's wrong with ufo? blaming them because FSN isn't easy to adapt to animation?
>>158935551
Fate/Stay Night is Fate and UBW. You have to experience both sides of the story to see the complete picture and neither stand on their own.
Fate/Other Night is Heaven's Feel, which is a merge of Sakura and Ilya's routes made by time limitations.
>>158935585
UBW is much better then DEEN's crap
>>158923247
Where can I find a detailed spoilers of the 4 volumes?
>>158935630
>Actually telling people to watch DEEN's anime
>>158935666
>Actually telling people to watch UFO's anime
Read the VN, kiddo.
>>158935666
Deen's anime wasn't THAT bad.
>>158935643
The pacing was off, some fight scenes especially towards the end was lazy, and all the skipped monologue, along with some of the dumber changes. Outside of the obviously worse art/animation the DEEN episodes were better than episode 0. Why do we need to know that Rin woke up 1 hour early? Why should we care about the overt sexual tension between her and Archer? Do we really need to watch them walk around the city? There's even the scene where Archer and Rin are on a rooftop looking down and Archer claims he can see how many X are on a bridge. In the DEEN version they literally show how impressive it is my making the camera zoom to see each rivet, whereas in the Ufotable one they don't even show the bridge in the scene. Just one example of how superior storyboarding can be better than throwing money at a project.
>Shirou tells Gil to stop right before he rips Illya's heart out
>Gil shoots a sword at Shirou that misses and hits the wall behind him
>Shirou stares down Gil without being intimidated as the terrace behind him collapses
Made him looks pretty fucking cool
UFO version
>Shirou is pinned to the ground by Rin
>finally shakes her off and tells Gil to yamero
>gets taken out by a sword immediately, falls to the ground, rubble collapses on him, and looks like a complete chump
>Saber pierces Godhand with Invisible Air countless times and Godhand never develops an immunity to it
>the entire Shirou vs. Archer fight split into two different episodes to ruin the pacing, what the fuck were they thinking
>Berserker breaks out of Enkidu and immediately dies, he never resists the world itself in order to let her die in peace at his side, she just hallucinates that he's still there while holding a piece of rubble
>>158935706
It wasn't bad, and neither was UFO's UBW and eventually HF, but FSN fans will never be happy.
Adapting VNs that aren't straight out porn is incredibly hard, because late night anime are restricted to at most 25/26 episodes, and most VNs worth adapting are 60-70 hours monster. You adapt the first route, you still have questions that is answered in later route considered to be plotholes. You adapt any other route and it lack the foreshadowing and world done in the previous
>>158935585
The faces in UBW were terrible. Maybe I am autistic, but it was unwatchable at times.
>>158936020
Angry about the soundtrack, too?
>>158927094
Imagine all the tumblr tier art that he will get after the anime airs.
>>158937653
stop
please answer my question
>>158905638
she would kill him the moment he starts telling her she shoudn't fight because she is a girl.
>>158911734
it was indeed
instead the focus got put on the gay homuclus that could temporarly turn into siegfried
>>158935662
Read the fucking novels.
>>158904836
>Its not real fate if its not animated by ufo
It's not real Fate if it's not animated by DEEN.
I think this is relevant.
>>158942092
Me in the middle.
Am I gay?
>>158912204
at least mordred killed that fag by cutting his head off
>>158898272
>flat
GTFO shemale
>>158942940
>>158943174
>That elf butt
Jesus Christ
>>158918051
wut
>>158943808
It's the cuckshitposter, just ignore him.
>>158943792
half mermaid actualy. not elf
>>158944021
Silly anon, fish don't have butts.I actually do know but it's just easier to call her an elf because of the ears.
>>158945045
Me on top
Are you ready to face the miracle of the universe?
>>158912204
Yeah like even focusing on fucking Gordes would've been better. From what I remember he turned actually goodafter losing Siegfried.
>>158947446
Yeah, I want to watch half of the anime time of WHINING.
No, fuck off.
>>158947733
Hey atleast we could rightfully hate that. The focus on Sieg legit expects us to sympathise with him and like him.
>>158947993
You're a free person, you can hate anyone. I can sympathize with Gordes. But I sympathize with Sieg even more.
>>158898415
nero
>>158913865
Just watch Fate/Zero. Fate/Stay Night is shit anyways. Don't waste your time on the VN either, read something actually good like Umineko instead.
>>158949290
>>158949487
The cold harsh truth. Fate route is shit, UBW is shit and Heaven's Feel isn't good enough to make up for them.
>>158949905
You also said to watch, not to read then watch Fate/Zero, which effectively dismissed your whole opinion on the matter.
>>158943808
fueled by F/GO interactions?
>>158949905
I kind of a agree with you including the Umineko part, but UBW wasn't shit
>>158950649
More like fueled by shitposts.
>>158951267
That as well.
But at least the fanart and doujinshi seems to be based on a few sentences they exchange.
>anime-original ending in which Amakusa wins
Y/N?
>>158952353
Fuck yes, but there's literally 0 chance of it happening.
can shiki kill her tho?
>>158952353
Literally cancer.
>>158952353
please
>>158952353
Hell, yes.
>>158952353
I'd rather have an ending where Mordred wins.
>>158923074
They could always do FGO/Zero with Marisbilly's Fuyuki Grail War.
>>158927387
Mordred is so cute with Jekyll. I like how she looks after him in her tsun ways.
>>158933266
Arthur thinks she's cute. His Mordred was a crazy yandere guy who wanted to destroy all Britain so Arthur would be only his, though.
>>158955888
They had 0 competition in that war, as far as I can possibly imagine. I thought that everyone automatically assumed that they almost instantly won.
>>158943808
>she stays with him for weeks in his house in london, where he was alive, before mashu's and guda's arrival
>gives him a petname and acts tsun with him, making him flustered
>her voice snaps him out from being hyde and turn him to jekyll because of their strong bond, like like typical romantic cliche
>she doesn't want him to take the potion again, so she assigns him for his protection at the backlines in the time temple
Jekyll is basically Shirou, smart Victorian version. Mordred is a dumber and rasher version of Artoria. Both 'fallen' too. Put 2+2, Sakurai never made any secret he shipped them.
>>158951267
Except not? Everyone saw their interaction as romantic in Japan. No shitposting involved, you need to be a brainwashed waifufag to deny it. Mordred doesn't give a shit about the self insert, her relationship and bond was stronger with Mashu. The Summer version gets established as a different person with her own saint graph.
>>158955986
It could be about Marisbilly touring in Fuyuki with Solomon while everyone else fights as they enjoy cute SOL scenes. Then in the last day, he one shots everyone.
>>158956186
Fags forget Jekyll is a seigi no mikata obsessed guy. Because they don't know his character.
>>158935496
>>158956379
I'd be pretty okay with that - but, I wouldn't want it as like another million-word work. Just a short story would be fine for that.
>>158956295
Kill yourself. .
>>158956295
I, the MC, is an omnipotent god in GO. Every single female belongs to me. You may be a pathetic cuckold but that's simply your retarded choice.
>>158934792
Marie loves you Mordy, Viva la France!
>>158898272
The true savior of Apocrypha is Astolfo
>>158956600
>Jalter
>>158916654
>My husband's (female) son (female)
>>158915725
Piece of shit that literally caused the downfall of Camelot because of his dick-measuring contest with Sir Fucksalot
>>158919968
Having your kingdom destroyed and all your men killed in front of your eyes will do that to ya
>>158934792
Saber Lily is so fucking cute I want to die!
>>158957268
meme girl of the season
>>158898272
>by A-1
No. I'm sure they will ruin this anime again.
>>158938600
>>158942092
So he marries both of them right?
>>158958314
>girl
>>158960760
Was it rape?
>>158960808
Nah, just really boring S&M play.
>>158958169
Its more the fact that she genuinely gave a fuck about her subjects.
Both Gil and Iskander lead their kingdoms to ruin as well but they both saw it was a sacrifice worth making for their own ends.
Why is the MC looks like a faggot? Shirou, Gudao and Hakuno are bland self-inserts but the Apocrypha MC looks like a whinny fgt
Have we ever seen Morgan's design in the Nasuverse yet?
>>158956186
>EVERYONE IS BASICALLY MY SELF-INSERT MC, just different
Fucking insertfags. Not even once.
>>158961804
>Gil didn't/doesn't care about his people
>Gil led his kingdom to ruin
lol ok
>>158960760
Why is Astolfo so apprehensive? A beautiful titty monster wants to have sex with him and he's already fucked lots of women.
>>158961888
Might be different if she ever shows up in GO but here.
>>158962059
Because her taste in fetishes is shit in his opinion.
>>158961871
>Shirou
>self-insert
I hope you are shitposting.
>>158962075
>that hideous shit
Yeh, it will definately change.
>>158962220
>basically has no face shown in sex scenes
>you play virtually the entire VN through a 1st person perspective, effectively making the self-insert's thoughts your thoughts
>the VN is like a bishoujo dating game divided for heroines to conquer, even using the galge flag system for affection points, just with a lot of fighting
Not the same guy, but with the ego-jacking off self-insert fanfics caused by this shit, you can't blame them.
>>158962134
Her fetish is licking Astolfo.
>>158962382
>effectively making the self-insert's thoughts your thoughts
dear god i hope not
the fuck is wrong with you
besides that you would go trolling about the FSN visual novel 13 years after its release, mind you
>>158962220
With 38 plus endings not including the main endings, you can basically make the personality just about anything in FSN.
>>158962382
>basically has no face shown in sex scenes
Completely standard in a Eroge
>you play virtually the entire VN through a 1st person perspective, effectively making the self-insert's thoughts your thoughts
This is completely contradictory and Shirou follows a logic that is fundamentally alien to any other person.
>the VN is like a bishoujo dating game divided for heroines to conquer, even using the galge flag system for affection points, just with a lot of fighting
Except its not. You are locked into a route from the start before you interact with any of the heroines. There is a skin deep affection system with the main character that can produce a bad end if it is very specifically sought after and at no point can you change who you romance within a route
This level of shitposting was weak 10 years ago and utterly pathetic now.
>>158962522
What shit are you spouting?
>>158962524
>fundamentally alien
You can make your MC a complete shit to Saber just for kicks and that ends up with a bad ending.
>>158962524
>you are locked into a route
>still admits there is an affection system that leads to bad end routes
>this faggot will claim that MoS is not a route when fuckers all over /tm/ act like it's one
I don't forget your hypocrisy, TM fanbase. I was there.
>>158962382
>effectively making the self-insert's thoughts your thoughts
That is almost the literal antithesis of a self insert.
>>158962620
>You can make your MC a complete shit to Saber just for kicks and that ends up with a bad ending.
Yes, and? You literally have to chose to be a cunt to Saber at every given option.
Not sure how this supports your autsitic "self insert" shitposting though.
>>158962644
It allows you to excuse actions taken by the insert character. Because you end up agreeing with it to some level.
>>158962620
Why are you sperging out over endings? How does that relate to "self insert"?
>>158962692
That proves that your MC insert isn't fundamentally alien. That is just an excuse for your self-inserting fucks to say your MC insert isn't an insert.
You're the same type of fucks that write all these MC insert fanfics all over the place.
You're no different from the ego-wanking writers at fanfiction.com for this series.
>>158962243
>Black haired Saber with pointy ears
Y/N?
>>158962772
>the character does just about what you want the character to do as your insert into the story
>h-h-how does that relate to self-insert?
Just because some of the choices lead to a bad end, that doesn't mean you aren't allowed to make choices.
>>158962698
>Agreeing with it to some level
What autistic shit is this? There are multiple points where chosing the "logical" option leads to a hilariously silly bad end.
The "Route option" system in F/SN is an after thought and only included so it could be sold as a "Visual Novel". The only choises that matter are the ones that lock you into one of the three routes at the start of the game
>>158962818
EVERYBODY A SABER
>>158962777
Im sorry, but the more I read your reasoning the less sense it makes.
"Self-insert" shitposters have long been the most autistic people here and you dont disappoint.
>>158962777
So, in every game you play, the "Main Character" is a "Self Insert"?
Your retarded logic would have characters like Dante from DMC or Marcu Fenix from GoW as "self inserts" as well.
>a route system = a self insert
These shitposters are getting more and more retarded as time goes on
>>158962860
The route option system (and the MC) were written to make the game popular with otaku and eroge lovers that have to attach to a male MC insert fucking women to stroke their own egos.
Because if neither were there, this would not have been popular at all.
Now, I don't have a problem with that so that the Fate franchise can exist, but you MC insert fucks are really a stain on the fanbase. Fanfics here, fanfics there, muh MC does that, muh MC will do this, muh MC must bang these bitches!
Fuck off.
FUCK THE FUCK OFF.
Also, just because a bad end happens, that doesn't mean that the choices don't exist to have the MC do other shit than just a straightforward story with no choices allowed in it.
>>158963018
Anon, calm your autism.
Shirou is his own character with his own specific motivations; back story and development.
Posting in CAPS and throwing a tantrum wont change this.
All you are in F/SN is a fly on the wall in Shirou's perspective.
>>158962997
Technically, no. But mix it with a 1st person perspective MC that also aims to have a different lover/heroine per route, then yeah.
>>158962951
Dante from DMC didn't have a heroine that he was going to sex up in 3 routes in the first DMC game.
>>158963018
You are retarded.
Things like Carnival Phantasm and All Around Type Moon and Koha Ace exist because people love the characters and the chemistry between them and like to see them portrayed in more normal settings.
It has nothing to do with any shit that you are sperging about.
>>158963096
>own character with own specific motivations
>game has 38+ endings that can result from the MC acting differently personality-wise with the heroines
>motivations, back story and development
Bitch, Tohno Shiki has motivations, back story and development and he's still a self-insert fuck.
>>158898272
Shit girl.
Die!
>>158962877
No, Takeuchi.
>>158963174
Tohno isnt a self insert either you autistic fuck. He is much less developed and a lot less interesting as a person but again he has his own situation and development.
And the game doesnt have 38+ endings through Shirou treating the Heroines differently. It has possibly 2 per route at most. Most of the bad endings occur by chosing a "logical" option and then dying in some over the top and silly fashion.
>>158962220
MC=self-insert
>>158963288
The Ilya room choices were a choice between being brave and being a coward.
Being an asshole to Saber and being understanding is not a logical option, it's simply a choice of being an asshole or being more understanding.
Not all choices in FSN were about being logical.
>>158963345
Eroge MCs especially.
>>158963225
>>158963508
>brings Kairi home and introduces him to Seibah as her boyfriend
Pure Rebel.
Nothing can save Apocrypha from imminent failure.
>>158963174
>game has 38+ endings that can result from the MC acting differently personality-wise with the heroines
Trying to be cautious, prioritizing your survival and generally acting like a normal person is the easiest way to get killed in the game precisely because Shirou wouldn't do any of those things. The Taiga Dojo's just flat out make fun of this by telling you to "Go back and pick the reckless option!" several times.
The game is pretty iron-cast about Shirou having a set personality you don't get any input on, and constantly makes fun of itself for how its VN choice format is completely pointless.
>>158963667
How? If it gets us Astolfo x Jeanne x Sieg doujins, then it's a great success!
>>158963667
It's Fate, it'll do well no matter what.
>>158963724
>pretty iron cast and set personality
>you can get to 38+ endings because you can keep choosing a lot of other personality choices in the game
Just because the game tells you the right choice, that doesn't mean the other choices don't exist.
That's the same thing that happens in galge with super bland self-insert MCs.
Your reasoning is a really shallow excuse so your self-insert doesn't get called self-insert.
You know why that hurts to you? Because any shit plastered on your self-insert, you take personally. That's what it means to have inserted into an insert MC.
>>158963667
I don't really understand why people don't like Apocrypha. It's a pretty good story in its own right.
>>158912473
>>158914057
>>158917050
>>158917230
>Emiya/Pendragon family life
I smell a series of skits for a Carnival Phantasm revival.
>>158963872
Merlin has an Artoria wife in one of the stories, because they love each other in another dimension.
>>158963838
>that doesn't mean the other choices don't exist.
But all those Shirous are dead, effectively making them non canon in later entries.
I mean if your shirou thinks and acts like you and died 3 days in the war good for you.
Arguing it's canon to the anime shirou or the surviving shirous in any way makes you retarded though.
>>158963871
Because Sieg is a faggot
>>158963919
It's probably more than just one dimension that they love each other in. Their problem is they don't know they love each other, so it's a matter of them finding out. There could be half of the dimensions where they find out.
>>158963724
Shirou is just my avatar. He doesn't have a real personality.
>>158963931
Dying doesn't change canon. There are multiple universes in Nasuverse and just because a character dies in one, that doesn't mean they stop existing. One of the most beloved endings in Heaven's Feel is just that.
>>158963975
He has a dragon dick and is dicking Jeanne so no biggie.
>>158964033
Yes, but an alternate ending at the end of the war isn't your "mini me" Shirou that died 3 days in the war.
He's been developed enough at that point to be his own character.
Also yeah, despite their being alternate universes those Shirous don't become Archer, don't pass go, don't collect validitity for your retarded argument.
>>158963931
That is logically retarded. That's like saying Gilgamesh being a punk bitch in FSN is not canon because he dies being a punk bitch.
Him being a punk bitch in some routes is still canon even though he dies.
What side of your brain are you even using to make stupid arguments like that?
>>158963998
Funny enough, isn't this actually a bit of the pointy of Shirou? He's kind of lost his sense of self as a person, so he recklessly throws himself into dangerous situations to help others because of a mix of feeling worthless as a living being, atonement for failure to save people (he was likely hallucinating) calling out to him during the Fuyuki fire, and a few other factors.
>>158964109
No, that still doesn't follow. All those thoughts and personalities lead to many different endings. They are all canon. The only reason you are claiming that they are not is so you can claim that your insert does not have multiple personalities.
But reading through canon, you can shape the choices and lead to many ends.
Your faulty thinking does not change that.
>>158964120
Gilgamesh isn't the main character moron.
You literally get an ending where Caster wins the war at one point in the game despite the fact it would be impossible, mainly done to not spoil the reveal of the big bad.
But please, tell me all these alternate scenarios in your head that obviously are exact equivalence of the MC dying.
>>158963975
In what way is Sieg a faggot? I don't remember him doing anything really bad in the LN. In fact, some of his scenes with Jeanne were just adorable.
>>158964192
Okay, according to this anon, his Shirou he got killed is featured in the anime and is purely indicative of Shirou's personality because he can't stand to lose internet arguments.
>>158964209
An MC dying does not mean the universe of that world ends. You dumb fuck. You yourself end up admitting by talking about the Caster victory after you get off'd.
>>158964283
>You yourself end up admitting by talking about the Caster victory
That is a 100% impossibility due to how the story progresses.
I guess Shirou dying somehow makes Gilgamesh vanish in the 5th war?
Damn that's crazy son.
>>158964209
It's not really impossible. Gilgamesh is a husk of himself. If Caster manages to finish fortifying her position, then she becomes an unstoppable juggernaut. It's only because Saber caused a ruckus that Caster's plans were destroyed.
>>158964379
And this same Gilgamesh slaps Herc around, who was the only hope to stop caster at the time.
He would have kicked her fucking teeth in regardless.
>>158964472
Eh, not really. Hercules got slapped around because Ilya was there. A lot of victories in Fate were not due to straight up powerlevels but to the context they were in. Had Caster finished fortifying herself, there's a good chance she does win the entire HGW.
>>158964567
Herc still couldn't take Gil buddy.
Even if Gil was fucking around Herc loses to chains 100% of the time.
>>158964689
Herc has a 50/50 chance of killing Gil even when protecting Illya.
>>158964937
You're funny.
Do some reading Mr. "Shirou is a self insert because I can make dead end choices" guy.
Because you obviously have no clue what the fuck you're on about.
>>158957268
>One of Sieg's direct buttbuddies
Nah.
>>158964689
Hercules broke the chains apart right almost when Gilgamesh was in front of him.
And this was with Gilgamesh raining shit on him head-on, because Hercules could not move out of the way since Ilya was behind him, LOS-wise.
>>158904836
A-1 will find a way to make this AOTS
>>158965417
They made Eromanga-sensei really lewd, so you think this will be really lewd too?
>>158964985
Nice shitpost.
>>158965417
>A-1 dominated spring with Eromanga and GBF even with SnK around
>>158965394
>I have only watched the anime
>>158965394
Herc breaking the chains was an anime original
>>158965629
>>158965648
>>158965629
>>158965648
>>158965857
>>158965920
>right almost when Gilgamesh was in front of him
>Hercules could not move out of the way since Ilya was behind him
>>158963871
Two reasons. We started hating it long before even half of it was properly translated just by going on spoilers. This created a chain of hating it because it was hated.
Second, Sieg. He's not the worst main character ever, but he is the least wanted MC. He sneaks up on you and you really didn't want him there.
>>158964250
>Sieg with Jeanne
>Not Astolfo
Why are you a faggot?
>>158963981
What I thought GoA confirmed that neither of them understand human love so they can't love each other.
>Jeannefag
>All the Jeanne x Sieg doujins that will crop up
>They'll find some way to incorporate Alter, too.
TIME FOR JANNU!
>>158966505
What are the chances of Sieg getting doujins aimed at fujos?
>>158966505
It was only a matter of time.
>>158966588
>This faggot killed my favourite Saber AND fucked my favourite servant.
>>158934029
You're missing something here... Greatest seiyuu alive have voiced another character in Fate already.
>>158966633
And he's only like two weeks old. He'll have a Jannu harem when he gets in GO.
>>158966040
Reread the scene, Herc is swinging his stone-sword at Gil just before getting chained up, meaning he's standing just in front of him. Neither one of them moved from their place so he was also standing in front of him when he broke the chains.
>>158966754
God help me. Is this what it feels like to be an NTR h-manga MC?
>>158942773
hm
Why is Alter better than the regular Jeanne?
>>158966816
Bitch moe.
>>158966787
Probably.
>>158962058
Gil wasn't a notable king. The only reason he's got any fame at all is because he was so much of a dick that his subjects prayed to the gods to bring them something to distract him from being a dick and that spurred all the legends from there.
>>158967340
>>158967198
#1. That's not even vaguely true
#2. Even if it were true, it's not true in the Nasuverse. See Babylon, SF, or anything else wherein Uruk/Babylon is mentioned.
>>158967380
1) His grand accomplishment was making a fucking wall.
2) His fame is from the epic of gilgamesh being created and the events from that were spurred on via enkidu's existence. Why does enkidu exist? It's because the people of Uruk were so sick of Gil that they prayed to the gods for something to distract him from being a dick. They were not appreciative of him deciding that he has the right to deflower all of the virgin women. Gil's entire claim to fame is prefaced upon the fact that he was a dick that everyone else hated.
More like Fate/Gaypocrapfag
>>158967340
>>158967358
I think we had a jeannu get a few days ago
>>158967544
>His grand accomplishment was making a fucking wall.
I, too, can reduce accomplishments
God's grand accomplishment was making a fucking man.
>It's because the people of Uruk were so sick of Gil that they prayed to the gods for something to distract him from being a dick
So you have no idea what you're talking about re: the Nasuverse? Read the material.
>>158967409
>That Jeanne ass
Holy and pure.
Just so that none might try to illegitimately falsify what I have said/implied:
"I had been given a task when I was created by my mother. “Chains. You must return the Keystone to our control.” ... I must impose the wrath of the gods upon the arrogant Gilgamesh. ... The meaning of my existence. The purpose of my creation. The task I must hinge my life upon. Divine vengeance upon a fellow puppet of the gods. However, he was still young when I found him. ... He was still a child. Until he reaches adulthood, I cannot clash with him. It would serve as no reprimand unless I fought him as an equal. And so I gaze at the walled city. I hear the voice from within it. Suppressing my impatience, I counted his growth by days. In his childhood he had kingly aptitude superior to all. Tolerant, sage, fair, and moral. All praised and lauded him, infatuated. He was the epitome of the ideal boy king. The years pass, and the boy becomes a young man. I was forced to admit that the misgivings of the gods had been right. In mere years he had become a changed man. Absolutism. Oppression. Duress. Levies. Utmost decadence from self-interest. The people of Uruk lamented. They wondered why things had become this way. ... Why had he decided to defeat Humbaba? It hadn’t been an order from the gods. But neither could it have been for the sake of the people. “But it was to protect Uruk, no? If the evils of the earth are not purged, the people will perish from starvation.” ... The people of Uruk were suffering under his reign. Why would he then worry about the people? “It’s only natural. I was born as a guardian of humanity. It is the duty of the king to lay the foundations for the future civilization of this planet.”
-Enkidu
Nobody prayed for shit. Enkidu existed because the Mesopotamian gods were upset that Gil didn't like them even in his childhood. Enkidu existed before anyone at all disliked Gil. Gilgamesh's 'grand accomplishment' (in most timelines) is his treasury. Etc.
>altria
>>158956600
>After a while when I woke up, I realized I had the shittiest taste possible.
>I cried a lot...
Sounds better.
>>158961871
>Oh my God I can't be even more of a secondary, can I?
>>158966381
Why not have both?
>>158927088
Holy shit that helmet
Can't wait for jeannu
How is F/SN aurally? I am wondering because I just ordered a new converter for my headphones and if it's some good shit, I'll wait on starting to read it but if it's nothing special I'll just listen to my own music.
>>158966666
Fucking Satan