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annie is cute
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>>158870364
ugly af
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>>158870364
Annie beats up Pieck.
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>>158870364
Best girl
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Endgame right here, brothers.
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>>158870364
and the best girl
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11 months
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Annie is best
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>>158870432
unforgivable....
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>>158870432
Pieck would understand that it's part of the training. Annie wouldn't set out to hurt her.

>>158870364
>>158870445
>>158870454
>>158870466
Good people.
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>ZP is the real thing
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>>158870503
>Whoooooosh!
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Did you know that Berthold had a twin brother who was send to Utopia?
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>>158870503
Zeke is too old for her

She is for Porko
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>>158870446
Hongo OUT
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>>158870534
>She is for Yeager's
fixed
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>Protect her smile at all cost!
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>>158870633
No.
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AM will be endgame.
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>>158870538
Levi comes INside of Hanji every time you make this post.
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>>158870526
>"Whooooooooooosh"

>>158870534
Anon,Zeke is 29 years old and Pieck must be 22 or 24 years old,its fine.

>>158870590
>She is for A Jaeger,Zeke Jaeger
Fixed
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>>158870706
>sticking it inside hairy tranny boipuccies
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>>158870820
Levi is Hanjisexual.
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Post young or super cute Annie's
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>>158870675
Why would Annie like Mikasa?
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>>158870633
>Forever and ever
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>>158870868
ok
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I want to stick my dick in Annie's stinky unwashed butthole
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>>158870715
Maybe Zeke and Eren could share her.
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>>158870866
Hongo landwhale pls
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>>158870924
Such nice legs.
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>>158870633
>>158870905
I have faith based Araki pushes EM so much because he knows it will be endgame.
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>>158870633
Dedicate your hearts!
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>>158870866
Thank you for your fantasy you ugly smelly tumblrina
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>>158870972
Are you lusting after Annie now?
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>>158870970
>>158871013


The evidence is all over the place. Just pay close attention.
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burp
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>>158871023
Come again?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjsQ0CPejwI

>there will be no more episodes of this
God damn it
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>>158871078
Is that Berthtoldst?
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>>158871078
delet
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>>158870975
No since Isayama sunk it two times.
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>>158870866
I bet you think kidnapping men means he wants to be your boyfriend
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>>158871078
Accurate Bort
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>appears for about 30 seconds in the whole season
>1st place
This is ridiculous.
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>>158870652
Fuck you, Eren
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>>158871098
Reiner is right about Annie
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>>158871171
Anon, you need to stop with your unrelated boogeyman.
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>>158871151
Authors change ideas all the time.
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>>158871197
Never underestimate the power of the manlet
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>>158871354
>MikaQT at the top
Based taste, nips.
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I want to cum inside the queen.
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>>158870981
get outta here anderson
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So there's like 1000 50 meter titans inside the walls right now?
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>>158871197
>Gintoki not #1
criminal
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So... What the fuck is this?
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>>158871538
Someone did the math and all 3 walls would add up to 500,000 50m Titans
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>>158871639
A picture for ants.
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>>158871679
lmao
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>>158871683
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>>158871764
It's a capsized frigate.
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>>158871336
That is the LH tumblrina who kidnaps swedish men to be her sexslave and eat her tuna fish cooch just like Hanji forces Levi to eat xers. They think Hanji is good looking and forces you to think ugly is actually attractive.
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>>158871791
Looks like it has teeth nose and an eye
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>>158871815
It does look like that.
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>>158871679
a force to be fucking reckoned with

How did the king lose with that kind of power
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>>158871806
LH is the most popular het ship for a reason my anon. Swedish cuck or not.
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>>158871856
The reason is ugly girls like it because there is no reason other than delusional reasons why it's popular.
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>>158871854
The 8 other Shifts were, if not against him, not with him.
Perhaps in the past, their power could rival that in their own way.
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>>158870924
Do you have more pretty Annies?
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>>158871916
>delusional
You don't even know what that word means. When you have shit like this >>158871040
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>>158871764

an overturned ship
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Soon...
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>>158871854
You can't win if you don't fight.
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>>158871992

lol no. Maybe in season 5
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>>158871972
That is one anime scene that isn't even romantic. LM has way more scenes but MikaQT is too pretty for the bumblr landwhales to relate to.
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>>158871992
At least 2 years for the anime to get that far
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>>158871854

He didn't lose, he was a cuck and chose not to fight
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>>158871992
Eren is the literal bore of the series
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>>158871971
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>>158870364
>ugly
>autistic
>generally bad company
>coward
>liar
>race traitor
>stinky
She's literally the worst character.
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>>158872049
>LM
But Mikasa is Levi and Hanji's daughter.
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>>158872100
>>158872099
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>>158872099
I love it when she does her hair differently.
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>>158871971
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Reiner is best character.

I hope he gets a hero's death.
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>>158872090
>>158872026
I thought they got him to a point where he was like "god fine I'll fuck off"
you have to be pretty strong to get someone with his level of power to fuck off.
I guess he was emo
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I wanna kiss armin on the cheek
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>>158872153
What was up with the story Reiner told during dinner.

Is he twisting it to remember them as bad?
Is he purposefully showing how dumb it is to think of them as demons?
Is it a cry for help?
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>>158872174

He was tired of mediating the constant civil wars between the various eldian houses and occassional uprisings of conquered peoples. IE a cuck
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>>158872140
>>158872148
So cute. I like it when she's friends with Hitch
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>>158872232

yes to all
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>>158872174
The wall titans are facing inward. Those people aren't being protected from the outside world.
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>>158872276
i like her when she is happy.
>>158872100
>ugly
Different tastes for different people, I like her because she doesn't look like the typical anime doll face.
>autistic
Try harder
>generally bad company
Nope
>coward
Yes, this is part of her character arc. Her cowardice or lack of willpower is a pretty compelling narrative.
>liar
I give you that one.
>race traitor
She is hardly a race traitor.
>stinky
Stop this dumb meme
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>>158872381

They're facing inward because annie breaking the wall to reveal some guy's neck wouldn't have been very visually compelling
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>>158872232
Reiner's big thing is that he wants to belong.
That's why caused him problems when he was with the Scout Corps. He felt like he belonged and he felt more and more like staying.
He feels like shit because he betrayed his friends on Paradise but also betrayed his own people for wanting to stay in Paradise.

He told the story about how evil the Walldians are because he wanted to belong to the Ghetto Eldians.
But he couldn't do it entirely truthfully.

He's a conflicted man and will betray Zeke fully before the end.
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>>158872511
Me too. Pictures of a happy Annie literally make my day better.
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>>158870633
>smile protected
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Has there been a full analysis of the ED yet?
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>>158872619
This is my favourite image of Mikasa
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>>158872613
>He's a conflicted man and will betray Zeke fully before the end.
>implying mikasa won't kill him first
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>>158872381
>that sparkle in her eyes

The anime royaly fucked up by not showing Ymirs eyes in titan mode having the same sparkle.
It's pretty obvious that some will of the original Ymir went through our Ymir which made her sacrifice herself, but anime only fags will never get this hint now.
I hope they at least change it in the BD.
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>>158872616
Happy Annie is what this manga needs.
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>>158872797

She murdered dozens of people in cold blood
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>>158872866
And?
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>>158872797
Happy Annie is what everyone needs, whether they know it or not.

>>158872866
She followed her orders to fulfil her mission.
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>>158872756
Who is the Titan in the upper right?
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Tell me why kruger has sexy cheekbone
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>>158871679
>50 meter
Wrong.
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>>158872963
>She followed her orders to fulfil her mission.
She didn't need to enjoy it.
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>>158873077
Lots of Eldians are attractive.
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>>158872613
Reiner's pretty over the honor of the warrior program, the glory of Marley, the evil of the Walls, and yet he's claimed all responsibility for the failure of the infiltration mission and spent four years working it off. If Zeke's up to anything Reiner thinks he's in on it, betrayal could go either way.
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>>158873090
45m tall
Whatever
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>>158873105
We've been over this.
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>>158873105
she didn't
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>>158872137
Did your burgers tell you this or your bumblr womyn?
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>>158873175
The manga did.
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>>158873154
I mean, it's not like she went out of her way to avoid killing people

She's not Zeke level of psychopath, but she's clearly not that averse to killing Walldians.
Look at her first attack. Not a lot of pity there.
Except on Armin.
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>>158873359
Her first attack? She only killed people that prevented her from accomplishing her mission.
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>>158873420
Except for shit like this >>158873105
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>>158873446
He attacked her first.
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>>158873359
>I mean, it's not like she went out of her way to avoid killing people
She literally did that, Armin and Jean are alive because of this.
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>>158873420

She killed people who posed no threat and were running away
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>>158873141
Wrong again they are actually about 60 meter

> The hole was more than four or five times the miner's height when he struck hard rock. He wondered, "Bedrock?" But it appeared to be of the same material as the wall's foundation itself.
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>>158873527

Yeah, exactly and only them. What about the dude on the horse running away that she punted into space?
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>>158873505
And she took a stroll spinning his corpse around like she was on the beach

That's some psycho shit.
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>>158873359
She should be treated as an enemy soldier, a war criminal at worst. Not like a psychopath. She clearly has empathy. Sure she caused a lot of death in a weird and underhanded way, but this world seems pretty fucking weird and underhanded.
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>>158873559
Someone that has attacked once, can attack again. It makes more sense to remove a threat upon it's reveal.

>>158873674
He was dead, a body is just meat. Are you a pyscho for hammering a steak before cooking it? Meat is meat.
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>>158873527
She didn't kill them because she knew them
She's been indoctrinated to think that Walldians are inhuman
So she has no problem killing random Walldians but for the people she knows and has humanized, it becomes a problem.

Like with Reiner, it turns out that when you spend time with people you were told were monsters, you find out that they're actually people.
All the infiltrators except Berbtop had that problem.
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>>158873359
>psychopath
Christ, not this shit again.
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>>158873722
>He was dead, a body is just meat. Are you a pyscho for hammering a steak before cooking it? Meat is meat.
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>>158873639
And what about the other one or Petra or everyone she killed during that mission, they all reduce to deaths in combat. The fact she didn't kill those two speak a lot about her. She isn't heartless or a psychopath.
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>>158873785

After 5 years living among them there are no excuses. If she still did not think of every one of those soldiers as human, she is fundamentally broken, and if she DID, and STILL murdered them? Genuine black hearted evil.
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Annie is the best.
That's that. Anyone that says otherwise needs to re read the manga and pay attention to her, or they are trying to irritate people.
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>>158873828
Do not waste your time with the pathetic and stupid creepyfat.
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>tfw annie got offpaneled like ymir
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>>158873877
>she is fundamentally broken
Yes.
And Reiner and Bert too.
They're all broken because they've been raised from birth to think that they're inherently evil and that the only way they can atone for their evilness is to kill their own people.

Of course they're broken.
Only Zeke seems "ok" with things and he did that by going full "I'm not a murderer because I'm not killing people".
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>>158874021
We'll see her again once we go back to Paradise and see the changes of the 3 Year Gap

Or maybe there'll just be a third Titan with Armin and Eren.

Either way, there's no way they're keeping a Shifter on ice without addressing it again
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>>158874023
>kill their own people.
They still weren't show killing anyone from Liberio.
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>>158874112
They're still Eldians and they know that

On a side note, has Reiner, Annie, or Bert killed a wild Titan?
They surely know what they really are
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What the fuck was Ymir's problem
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>>158874150
Few for many.
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>>158874150
Only Sawney and Bean out of need.
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Annie redemption arc, soon. She's a good girl, and she's gonna prove it to us.

Wake up, you fucking shit!
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>>158874225
She's definitely a good girl
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>>158874209
>listening to their screams as Hange tortures them
>knowing that they're really people from Liberio like them

Though Bert probably thinks they deserve it
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>>158874225
I'm too emotionally shallow to forgive fictional characters for killing fictional people that I was given a fictional perspective of.

I hope she and reiner watch their loved ones get eaten by titans.
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>>158874150
>Eldians
Very poor excuse. The only ones who come close to being their people are Liberians. Wallists are just the descendants of rich traitors.
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>>158874225
Annie hates herself too much to be redeemed.
She's not like Reiner that just wants to be loved.
She doesn't believe she deserves it
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>>158874269
He likely was the one to kill them, being him the best with 3DMG.
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>>158874311
They're closer to the Walldians than they are to the Marleyans or any one else on the Mainland
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>>158874354
Do we have any reason to believe it wasn't Annie?
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>>158874380
>Or anyone else in the main land
That's debatable.
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>>158874328
Fuck off with your headcanons, creepyfag.
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>>158874225
Annie doesn't need a classic redemption arc, she needs to get out of the conflict and find peace.
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>>158874328
Fuck!
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>>158874429
Yeah, I guess that's true

If Ymir's people can make a deal with the devil or whatever really happened, then it's possible that there are other fucked up things in the world
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>>158874415
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Annie is dead get over it, Hisu is the new female titan.
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>>158874511
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>>158873272
So that means your desperate landwhale bumblrs
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>>158874595
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>>158874595
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>>158874483
No way.
Historia is done for in the story.
She got her endgame
Especially with Ymir being dead.
That's the author going "Yep. That's all wrapped up."
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>>158871197
>>158871354
Wait until next season when Manlet shows up an awful lot.
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>>158874631
That's pretty, I've always loved her profile.
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>>158874422
It was two people at the same time.
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>>158874587
No, since I don't like LM.
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>>158874678
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>>158874722
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>>158874687
Christ, how did I not notice the "Two or more" line when I was reading that the first time through
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>>158874761
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>>158874722
She's got such a big Eldian nose
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>>158874150
>>158874209
Remember the titans in the armory during Trost? So yeah, they did kill pure titans.
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>>158874837
Her nose is pretty and fine
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>>158874887
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Goodnight anons.

>>158875010
Still cute.
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>>158874887
Titanize the Eldians
Race war now
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>>158875027
Night.
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Reminder that Zeke is playing the ULTRA long con
He knew the only way to fulfil the dreams of his father, he had to betray him in order to gain the Marleyan's trust.
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>>158875243
2nd reminder that Zeke is an agent of Dilf
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Does anyone have that gallery of the pure Titans compared to Liberioans?
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since the 8th is on a saturday does that mean spoilers earlier or later or when does the chapter come out
will dump annie pics (or not) for an answer
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>>158875243
He hates Grisha and called his beliefs bullshit, and it was all in the privacy of his own thoughts where he had nothing to hide
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>>158873873

If she wasn't a heartless person she would have abandoned her mission
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>>158875529
Not again
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Is she stuck in that crystallised state for ever? Does anything happen to her afterwards?
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>>158874696
LM has canon moments unlike your self insert ship for unattractive womyn with a tuna smell
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What did he mean by this?
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>>158874668
How can you do better than number 1?
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>>158876427
Eren is family
And the Walldians are brainwashed subjects of the evil King
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>>158876367
I can never take you seriously after this.
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First time in a SnK general since watching the new season.
What the FUCK is up with the dinosaurs and animals and shit in the intro?
Have y'all figure it out yet?
Something to do with the Paths and Ymir and shit?
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>>158876833

If the king was evil he would have destroyed Marley, instead he was a cuck and let Marley capture most of his subjects
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>>158877041
go away anime only fag
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>>158877058
Well evil from the point of the Marleyans and traitorous Eldians like Zeke.
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>>158870364
eren is an annoying shit
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>>158877095
I am not animeonly, obviously, or I wouldn't know about Ymir and the origin of the Titans.

That sequence with the animal souls makes no sense even with the context of the manga
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>>158877018
LH ship might get something one day other than your delusions
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>>158877120
I think that's the point.
Reiner remarks that he wishes that it be anyone else other than Eren that holds the Coordinate
Isayama is subverting the "destined hero" a bit by making Eren pretty shit at everything and has to work really hard to overcome his shittiness
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>>158877041
Ymir Fritz didn't invent titans, she only brought it to humanity. It's as old as dinosaurs and it's what killed them all.
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>>158873105
Gonna go over your head but don't you think seeing aomething like that would make you rub away and leave her alone?

Everyone who attacked her was killed in self defense the spinning guy I excuse as a warning for other soldiers to fuck off
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>>158872092

I like Eren more than the standard protagonist, mostly for his insatiable bloodlust
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>>158876427
Pieck heard that. I wonder what she thinks about it.
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>>158877222
Yeah that's what I figured.
Like, the "source of organic material" or whatever is like the Red from DC comics.
It's common to all living animals. The Meat Dimension.

Maybe it'll come up in a later arc. Ability to Titanize animals maybe or control them.
Maybe the other way. Whenever someone Titanizes, millions of animals die as their flesh is repurposed and lightning'd away
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>>158877303
He doesn't have anything interesting except one emotion
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>>158877303
Him not actually being that good at 3DMG was what sold me.
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>>158877189
>and has to work
and yet he does not, he often does not even seem to see the problem. He had very little growth over the years. Coordinate is its own bullshit shortcut to save the day. also putting all that aside its very taxing for the viewer to be stuck with a protagonist like that
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>>158877303
He is a hothead who can't back up his words, otherwise he is as standard as they come.
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>>158877384
Then why did not you get unsold once you found out how specials he was
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>>158877514
When was the last time there was an Eren centered arc?
He's just been a McGuffin for the longest time.
Even Levi gets more character development nowadays
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well maria seems empty, why don't they at least farm the land?
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>>158877617
But he's not le special.
He's just a vessel for the work his dad put in.
The more we learn, the less impressive Eren seems.
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>>158876367
When is Manlet going to impregnate Mikasa?
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>>158877786
Never...
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>>158877626
still everything centers back to him, erwin,armin,mikasa and many others focus on him. hell it was funny when we got flashbacks of S2 from ymir's pov and Eren was just some noisy annoying shit constantly starting stuff while others went about having their meals
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I want Annie to hug_ Eren!
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>>158877719
They did.
The entire walled area is like the size of France.
So we've only seen a tiny part of it
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>>158877721
eh, that can be said about many gundam pilots
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>>158877370
That's one more than industry standard
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>>158877839
Then why are there still food problems from time to time.
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>>158877830
Yeah, you're right

I hope Isayama does something with Eren in the next few arcs.
Maybe the few years has mellowed him.
Or maybe Isayama will embrace cunt-Eren and make him a pseudo-villain.
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>>158877855
And Shinji Ikari
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>>158877839

Not quite that big, Paradis is Madagascar, which in its entirety is slightly smaller than france. But still, at least a hundred thousand square miles within Maria.
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>>158877786
Soon Ackerfamily
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>>158877892
Because all the people who lived beyond Wall Rose retreated behind it after Bert and Ernie broke in.
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>>158877914
>Paradis is Madagascar
We don't know that for sure.
It just looks like upside down Madagascar
It could be bigger or smaller than the "real" thing
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>>158877892
Medieval farming methods is the only excuse I can think of.
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>>158877919
So little Erwin and little Eren. Then Petra, Nifa and Isabel? And they can call the dog Hanz.
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>>158877961
after so many cleansing I refuse to believe the same amount of land can't feed the falling population
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>>158877910
at least everyone knew that Shinji was a loser, hell it took a divine fantasy being like kaworu to accept him for the loser that he is. I would feel bit better if character said they were humoring eren because they fear telling him the truth will turn him evil and make things harder to do
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>>158878037
The area between Rose and Maria was the largest segment of land available to the Walldians.
It produced the most food and held the most people (possibly excluding the Capital).
Losing Wall Maria means they lost the biggest part of their food supply while also increasing the load on their remaining supply by a massive amount.

It hurt the food supply in both ways.
More people to feed. Less production.

Having food issues after the fall of Wall Maria makes perfect sense.
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>>158878024
the methods where unchanged. The only thing I can think of (which is not likely) is that after cutting down all the woods for housing (which made all the game go away) all the people who used to eat that game would need new food (but then I remembered the guy saying wheat fields they will replace the forest with will feed more people)
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What do we call the people of Walls? What is their state name?
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>>158878148
Im not talking about after the fall of maria. I said that after the fall we see maria empty of titans, so I asked why they did not set up some farms.rarely attended ones would be better than nothing. I was told they did that, so then I asked why is their still not enough food given how people just keep dying and whole villages are destroyed
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>>158878273
Wallists.
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>>158878273
walldians?
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>>158878303
You're talking about the epilogue after the Return to Chimichanga arc?
Do the mention the food supply then?
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I want to read The Eternal Champion series.
Where do I start?
Is it worth?
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>>158878273
Traitors Land
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>>158877232
he killed the soldier that tried to free dont justify this you moron
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>>158878398
>Where do I start?
from /lit/
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>>158878449
flee*
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>>158877914
We have dimensions for the walls you know. They don't actually fit on real earth Madagascar, much less counting the area between Maria and the sea wall. Obviously their madagascar is much larger than ours.
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so who did Eren eat?
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>>158878597
Grisha?

And soon, Armin
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>>158874150
>On a side note, has Reiner, Annie, or Bert killed a wild Titan?
yes many times
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How do you spell Reiner's friend's name?
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>>158878758
Berutorutorutorutoru.
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>>158878758
Bort
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>>158878758
bertolt
or
BERUTORTO
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>>158878758
Benedict Cumberbatch
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>>158878758
Burnttoast
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>>158878758
boruto
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>>158878758
Butamol
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>>158878758
deathtolt chewoover
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>>158878758
El tonto
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>>158877626
Eren got a lot of character development in Uprising and RtS. Some characters didn't get any at all.
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>>158878758
Shitolt
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>>158878758
Marcel
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>>158878758
B-grade cuckold
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>>158878273
Humanity
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>>158879294
I always considered those "developments" to be quite faulty, personally.
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>>158877626
>He's just been a McGuffin for the longest time.
He's not a very interesting character, is he?
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>>158879294
Did he though?
He was the same "I gotta be the guy" through out.
Like, if he told Levi to save Erwin. Now that would be development
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>>158879522
He's a plenty interesting character with loads of depth, just that people overlook it in favor of characters surrounded by mystery and call that deep and interesting instead.
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>>158879477
Well that's still better than "muh ocean" and "my eren" for 90 chapters
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>>158877910
Shinji's whole point is being just a shitty vessel for his dad's work
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>>158879294
Yes, but it wasn't very fleshed out for the amount of screen time he has had. Isayama did him dirty by making almost every side character just as interesting, if not more so.
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>>158879588
True. I don't much mind emo Eren, but he goes way too hard on himself when he really ought not to.
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>>158879567

Eren barely interacted with Erwin and the only thing that Eren ever saw Erwin do right was yell ADVANCE while getting his arm torn off by a titan. His plans were dumb and never worked and ultimately he had to get bailed out every time by someone smarter or more talented.
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>>158879477
He's easily the most boring of the main cast.
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>>158879651
True, but Erwin was the far superior character.
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>>158879651
I still don't think Eren had any malice for Erwin, just that Isayama absolutely had to shoehorn in Armin as much as he could without realizing no one cared, and now that they do, it's all hate.
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>>158879651
You don't need to personally know a guy to see his value.
He's the leader of the Scout Corps.
The "right" decision was to save Erwin
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>>158879670
How far are we extended the terms of main cast? Everyone out of the 104th? The shifters? "Interesting" is quite a subjective term regardless.
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>>158879588
Armin and Mikasa are better characters than Eren. Eren went from one note character to very undefined back to one note.
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>>158879522
Eren isn't interesting at all. I hope he remains as a secondary character because I don't think there's nothing for him to do except find Zeke.
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>>158879717
Why? Armin's supposed genius is really just decent observation and common sense, but at least he's usually CORRECT. Meanwhile Erwin managed to lose like half the scouts in 6 months
>>158879735
Eren certainly didn't feel any MALICE towards him, but nothing that would make him go "wow, I need to give up on saving my friend because Erwin is so important to humanity!" Because, from his point of view, and even from a bird's eye view, he's fucking not. He was a mediocre commander who's only talent was inspiring people with his voice and good looks.
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>>158879774
EMA, BRA, HEL is the mains.
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>>158879807
I am not sure about that but I do think Armin and Mikasa are better when they're not with Eren.
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>>158879889
I agree with that.
When Eren is around, it's ALL about Eren
And he's just an edgy boy who is only beginning to realise how big the boots he needs to fill
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>>158879840
Personally, I'd say out of those it goes Eren => Reiner > Erwin > Mikasa => Annie > Hange > Levi > Armin > Bertolt. But again, interesting is really, really subjective and up to the reader.
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>>158879840
Only Reiner out of BRA.
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>>158879839
Erwin is far superior in terms of character, not decisions. Isayama makes the decision making look fucking retarded overall. Armin is supposed to be a genius for seeing three cups.

>>158879824
This. He's too one dimensional and not even that proactive in the story.
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>>158879761

If Erwin was actually good at his job, he would have had Levi and his squad tear the female titan apart upon entering the forest rather than do the stupid barrel grappling hook nonsense, with Eren as backup. He also shouldn't have tried the stupid canary trap trick of spreading misinfo about Eren's location, which only resulted in half the formation getting fucked before getting the opportunity to capture her.
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>>158879999
They didn't even know about the female titan at the time of the expedition, though?
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>>158879824
I don't think Isayama didn't try with his character at first, then he tried and it fell flat, then he tried to fix it by reverting some of Eren's old self.
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>>158880039
yes they did. that was the whole point of the "expedition"
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>>158879989

>Erwin is far superior in terms of character, not decisions.

Well sure, Erwin was an inspiring man, Armin is a scheming imp. Doesn't change the fact that Armin was Eren's friend, and Erwin was just the mediocre boss of Eren's boss. He had no reason to pick Erwin over Armin.

Now, if you wanted a REAL conflict, the serum bowl should have been between Armin and Levi. Because Levi is an enormous tactical advantage, which would only be magnified, if somewhat shortened, as a titan shifter. THAT would have been a good test of what Eren was willing to give up for humanity.
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>>158879942
>When Eren is around, it's ALL about Eren
Pretty much. It would be good if they didn't complain about Eren's decision to go to Marley. Especially Mikasa, Armin and she would be fine.
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>>158880039
Erwin knew there was a traitor and suspected that they would be a titan shifter, but I think he was expecting the armored titan to pursue them rather than the female titan, the former of which they already correctly suspected was a human, and the latter of which they did not know about at the time.
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>>158879839
You're supposed to act responsibly as a soldier. Eren learned this and internalized it ages ago, especially when it was Reiner that was teaching it to him. I find it a clear sign of Isayama's inexperience with anything military that he would write any of the soldiers, particularly Eren, the one who's most dedicated out of the new Levi squad, flipping his shit over a superior's decision, especially when it's something as hamfisted as trying to save Armin. The serumbowl was a fucking mistake that ruined plenty of people's characters.
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>>158879999
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Why does everyone hate Eren?

http://www.strawpoll.me/13009556/r
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>>158880219
ragetard
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>>158879945
>Eren =>
Kek
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>>158880156
I don't understand why you people thought Eren was going to save Erwin instead of Armin. How is that crying for his best friend ruined his character? It's like you guys don't understand Eren at all or you're pretty dense.
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>>158880219
Boring
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>>158880156

Eren's loyalty to his friends and family over both the absolutely optimal choice for his people's success was already established both before (his wreckless attempt at revenge early in the Shinganshina battle, or wanting to attack Annie in the woods before being given orders, then regreting following those orders) and after (not telling Historia or anyone else about how he can use the coordinate, which would result in her sacrificing herself). If you consider this a character flaw, well that's perfectly justified, but nobody is perfect.
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>>158880273
It's not that he should have chose anything. He should have let his superior officer choose for him, because in those sorts of situations that's exactly what you do. It functions both to absolve you of the guilt of your actions and make sure that decisions follow the chain of command. Armin made his sacrifice and Eren was ready to accept it. He could have made mourning time later, but Isayama just had to bring back Armin to life. It's a damn shame, because Armin's death was pretty fucking good and an Eren and Erwin cooperation would have been a little interesting, but at the same time I recognize Isayama has plans for Armin that necessitated bringing him back through a very convoluted situation. It still pisses me off.
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>>158880219
I don't like Eren when he acts like a selfish retard in a world more complicated than he is.

He has a lot of responsibilities with his next actions because they are going affect the lives of millions. I hope he has grown as a character.
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>>158880348
It's not that it's a bad character trait, but rather its execution. Isayama wrote the serumbowl in a manner that facilitated him also having to break the chain of command when it's been established early on that he defers to Levi and follows orders without problems. Not only that, it wouldn't be so much of an issue for me if it wasn't with Armin of all people. People were irked by the Arminwank from the very start of RtS. That it ended up being the near climax of the arc only made it worse. If Armin felt even half as justified as he should be for the role that he plays, it might be more acceptable, but at the moment there's pretty much nothing going for him that would make the serumbowl easier to stomach.
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Reminder the true best outcome would have been both Erwin and Armin dying.
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>>158880392
Armin's dream was important for both of them. Eren accepted Armin's death but when he started to breathe again, Eren couldn't just left him there. I am pretty sure he felt guilty, since he always trust Armin. You can see his death appealing but for me, Armin just wanted to die because he was feeling useless again. We came back to who he was at the beginning.
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>>158880440
>acts like a selfish retard
Literally when? He never tried to say he had the whole world under wraps, it's a huge part of his character that he doesn't and that he's always trying to get a better perspective of it. You're missing the point of his character.
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>>158871971
a best
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>>158880664
Why? He was literally a background character in Clash and Uprising. We knew Erwin thought Armin was valuable, but we never saw them interacting until RtS. Erwin was destined to die since he told Hange she was going to be her successor.
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>>158880707
Yeah, I know that. When I think about how Armin just breathing again must've been the worst, most agonizing hope for him, it somewhat justifies the way he acted, but it still irritates me that Isayama deliberately wrote the story that way to cause cheap conflict and pad out chapters. The was a waste of a whole damn month. At the very least he should've gone for this route >>158880693 and had them both die while everyone was arguing. Wouldn't that be nice? The only redemption for Armin for me is if Isayama had huge, colossal plans for the guy now that he's playing the role of the one who lives in the place of a demon. Meaning, evil Armin soon. That's pretty much the only justification I can see for forcing Armin so damn hard.
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>>158878758
Sweatholdt
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>>158880693
As time passes with Levi, Eren, and Mikasa arguing both pass away and so Sasha, the new Colossal titan is born.
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>>158880733
What manga are you reading? Are you talking about Eren? because you're describing a different character.
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>>158874837
her nose is totally fine
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>>158880733
yes, lately he's been trying to have a better perspective on the world, but with the serum bowl, he acted selfishly. I hope next time when we see him he grow pass of "muh vengeance", a takes a decision for the better of everyone.
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>>158880219
Only 19%? Well shit.
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>>158880837
Okay, even if he was skipped over for a few arcs, that still doesn't discount that he's legitimately the only character in this series I don't think loses anything when reduced to a >muh
>muh ocean
>muh uselessness
If he had any more motivations, or played any larger role in the story besides having a retard aura, maybe I could come to like him or at least be ambivalent. I want to like Armin, because he's an important character, because even the worst characters of the series have some depth to him. But he's about as shallow as beach water.
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I don't hate Eren. The only characters I hate are the two Gary Stus: Armin and Shitvi
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>>158880888
Yes, I'm talking about Eren. Give me an example of this selfish retardation you're telling me defines him.
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>>158880852
It's you again. No, that won't happen because Armin has no malice on his heart. He was forced, no, he forced himself to become like that because someone has to throw his humanity away. He is that selfless. We don't need a justification, Isayama saved him because Armin still has a role to fulfill, now as the CT.
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>>158880961
Levi and Armin >>>> Shitren
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>>158880961
Even Levi was all right especially in the Female Titan arc and Uprising, it's mostly when Isayama uses him as an easy weapon to end conflicts for the Paradisians that he becomes a little obnoxious, but that's far less insulting to other characters than Armin "retard aura" Arlert. I hope he retired over the timeskip.
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>>158881012
Jeanbo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>those three
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>>158881012
Reiner>Manlet=Ragetard>Shitmong
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>>158881006
>Armin has no malice in his heart
It's not about having malice, it's about making decisions that can potentially hurt many people, which Armin has shown the capacity for plenty of times, and even admires that about people like Erwin.
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>>158881012
Levi is boring as shit and easily the most overrated character.
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>>158881051
Reiner isn't even interesting besides his PTSD. Eren has way more depth.
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>>158881012
But all three of those are worst shingekos and for basic bitches.
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>>158881051
Eren = Levi > Shitner > Armshit
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>>158881115
I would agree, but I think they're both on equal footing now, even thematically. I think that was the point of 94, to put them on the same stage.
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>>158880979
Do you think selfishness is something bad? Are you forgetting Isayama described him like that? He joined the SL to kill all the titans, he blame them for not being able to be free, he is always waiting for Armin to make a decision, he also lied that he was interested in the ocean. Everything that moves Eren is his will to be free, he would leave the SL if that means fullfilling that wish.
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>>158881115
I just like him. I have nothing against Eren or Levi, they are alright.
Armong a shit though.
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>>158881140
Leave the tumblrinas alone. It's their choice for thinking they are "deep".
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>>158880155
This, they would never have suspected something like shifters, then Eren happened and it was the perfect explanation for the behavior of the Colossal and Armored and their magic trick appearance and disappearance. Not that Erwin's trap could have stopped either of those for a second.
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cuckasa a best
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>>158881026
Who?
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>>158881064
He has always admired Erwin but Armin has shown that he can't take the pressure. As I said, he decided to play that role but he feels disgusted afterwards.
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>>158881227
jean?
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>>158881153
>putting Sasuke the Titan Killer and a ragetard above Reiner
Such shit taste.
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>>158881267
Who?
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>>158881344
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Never thought I'd see the day where we would have an Eren defense force on /snk/ besides Slutty.
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>>158881173
No, it's not a bad thing, but to say the one who's always going on about how he would happily sacrifice himself for humanity if it would mean something, throws himself into the jaws of a monster after getting horribly wounded to save his friend, and overall never showed any signs of selfishness in the series -- regardless of what Isayama says -- is somehow meant to be the pinnacle of selfishness when there are far better examples to pick from. Early Jean for example, though he somewhat grew out of it which was refreshing. Remember that Eren was going to join the SL even before Shiganshina was attacked, expressly for the purpose of all those who had died before trying to retake land, and is it not the Titans that were keeping them from being free? How was he supposed to know any better? And he waits on Armin because Armin CAN make better decisions than he can, it's not about relieving pressure off of himself. The only thing that stopped him from talking about the ocean and all the rest was Armin himself because Eren didn't want Armin joining the SL, though he did anyway.
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>>158880943

If it was Armin vs Levi you would have a point, but Erwin? Nah. He's not anymore useful than Armin
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O
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>>158881415
Adding onto this, I think if he were to show any signs of selfishness, it would be after the timeskip. If he's alone and keeping secrets, that would indicate something different from normal, if he has his own agenda and starts fighting for himself, then yes I would agree that at that point he's selfish, and again that's not a bad thing. But Eren's always fought for the sake of other people. It's not until he fights alone, for his own ideals, that it'll become anything selfish. Does that make sense?
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>>158881530
MY
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Slowpoke here but can someone explain to me why didn't Berthrold turn into a titan in the last episode?
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>>158881415
>Remember that Eren was going to join the SL even before Shiganshina was attacked, expressly for the purpose of all those who had died before trying to retake land, and is it not the Titans that were keeping them from being free?
He entered the SL to kill titans. It was explained later that Eren blamed the titans for not being able to be free. Of course he would have saved Armin, the ocean is Eren's reminder of his childhood and Armin is his best friend. Armin thought Eren stopped talking about the ocean because he didn't want him to join the SL, but the truth is that Eren never cared about the ocean. It's like Isayama said, he impersonates his old self for Armin to not notice it.
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>>158881530
Reiner a handsome
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>>158870975
He's delusional anon.

Think SP
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>>158871347
Because the anime director is gonna force his hand, amiright?
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Armin and Eren are both shit.
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>>158881666
This.
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>>158881209
When will her suffering end?
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>>158881540
>But Eren's always fought for the sake of other people.
I like Eren, believe me, but this is not truth. He fights for the sake of freedom.
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>>158881530
MY
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>>158881637
>to kill titans
To see what was outside there and not die ignorantly. His original drive was curiosity. The page you posted was only after seeing the horror that Titans produce and losing a shitton of his friends. Anyone would talk big after that, but that doesn't discount the fact that he has other plans than that, and for one he never actually did a shitton of Titan killing in the SL, so your point is moot.
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>>158881666
Satan confirms
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>>158881692
What use is freedom if there are no people to be free? If it was about personal freedom, then all it would take would be for him to run off to the mainland and find someplace quiet to live for the rest of his life, but his sense of duty and responsibilities as a soldier, not to mention that he would be pretty much dooming Paradis to a deadly fate by doing so. Freedom isn't mutually exclusive of fighting for other people, in fact they go hand in hand.
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>>158881708
look at that x-rayed body.
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>>158881721
His original drive was freedom. He fights for freedom, joined the SL to kill titans because he blamed them for not having freedom.
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Any bets on which other characters have died off-panel in the timeskip?
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>>158881708
TITAN
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>>158881809
Yes? A character can have many different motivations that essentially drive the same styles of action. What's your point? He wants freedom because he's curious. He's curious because he has no freedom. He wants to know what life's really like out there, and he also wants to kill the Titans because they're in the way of everyone's freedom of movement and life, because they take everything away from the people of the walls.
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>>158881814
Levi and Hange retired because the survey corps doesn't exist anymore. Does that count?
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>>158881814
Annie
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>>158881814
None
Who is left to kill?
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>>158881856
Why is Reiner's titan so handsome?
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>>158881766
It's not that simple, he hates mediocrity. He would never live like a commoner or a conformist. This is partly the reason, there's also his will to kill all the titans and his responsability as a shifter. He is selfish, not indifferent. Armin on the other hand is indifferent and selfless.
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>>158881814
Annie or Historia.
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>>158881944
Why not both. Hisu turned into a mindless to eat Annie but once they open the crystal she was already dead.
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>>158881944
They're not killing Historia after all that bullshit about getting her on the throne.

Annie is 80% likely to still be alive.
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>>158881867
I won't call that curiosity, Armin is curious. Eren seeks freedom for personal reasons. He doesn't know what it is or when he is going to find it, but there is a void he has to fill.
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>>158881628
Because he probably needs a lot of time to recharge.
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>>158881936
I'm glad you recognize there's more to it than just one-off character traits. Yes, he hates complacency more than anything. I'd say this is because of how he was before he met Armin, living his days without doing anything. If he had actually failed to make the grade for military training, I can see him becoming someone otherwise influential just because he'd work himself to the bone in anything he does. But how does that imply selfishness? His responsibility as a Shifter is to everyone else, to the people of the walls and the two men that made it possible for anyone within the walls to have any hope, Grisha and Kruger. His desire to kill all the Titans was about the only thing that was selfish of him, a bout of personal revenge that ended as soon as he realized they were more than just monsters, they were his own people made into prisoners of their own flesh by a far greater enemy. Even then he was going to fight them anyway, regardless.
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>>158881998
It's pretty obvious a super weapon and their only chance to defend themselves against the whole world is more important than a puppet queen.
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>>158882065
How is dead Historia a "super-weapon"?
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>>158882037
Armin never expressed much beyond wanting to just see his childish dream of seeing the ocean fulfilled, whereas Eren constantly expresses curiosity and the desire to learn from anyone and everyone who can take him seriously, like Annie, Reiner, and Hange. Chalk it up to Armin never getting any development, but despite all his brains, I don't think I've ever seen Armin question their situations nearly as much as Eren has.
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>>158882065
you mean the queen who is the key to control all titans?
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>>158882093
Being a mindless titan is the same as being dead.
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>>158882141
Worse, you mean. I'm pretty sure Eldians all go to some awful sort of hell eventually.
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What if Zeke is able to control the wall titans once he touches Eren as well, and the only way Eren can fully control the coordinate without any problems is if he touches a mindless royal.
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>>158882141
Whatever.

Historia has no use being sacrificed because Eren already has the Origin Titan soul inside him.

He has as much as he can in order to control the Titans.
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>>158882162

Dina seemed to like it
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>>158882109
Because Isayama hasn't focus on Armin, we don't know how he feel. Eren doesn't expresses curiosity and the desire to learn? That's Armin. Eren doesn't give up, he has a strong will, that's something different.
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>>158882195
>He has as much as he can in order to control the Titans.
He needs a titan with royal blood in order to be able to use it. Otherwise it's useless.
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>>158882194
>if he touches a mindless royal.
Unconfirmed.
We know when he touches a Royal he gets a spark of Coordinate power.
Only when he touched Dina did he do it with a "command" in mind (i.e. kill Dina).
When he has no command, nothing happens but memories
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>>158882194
i think when they do the touchy touchy, the power will work both ways
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>>158882053
The simple fact of moving up for the sake of finding freedom makes him selfish. Again, that's not something bad. Eren knows who he is and I will praise him for that, but his need pf freedom is very important.
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>>158882259
He can't ever use it then.
Grisha ate a Royal and he couldn't control all Titans.
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>>158882194
Well Isayama didn't specify if that titan needs to be mindless or not.
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>>158882194
uhhhhh.. while this is theoretically somewhat possible, iduno. We'll see I guess.
>>158882195
what we now about Eren's ability to control Titans currently suggests it's a pain in the ass to even get it to work properly, and even then he is limited
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Historia is a royal's bastard and not even pure blood. The coordinate might simply just not work with her.
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>>158882306
He needs to touch a royal titan, not eat them.
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>>158882302
that means every man with a dream is selfsih
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>>158882209
Eren does express both, though. It's a huge, defining part of his character that he learns from others and wants to learn from others, you'd be missing out if this went over your head. If I had to put a few names to the list of his mentors it'd probably go something like Reiner, Annie, Hange, and maybe Petra and Levi. He's always asking questions to try and get a better grasp of the situation so he can better do the right thing. This is present throughout the whole series.
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>>158882312
But imagine how fucked up it'll be if Zeke is able to control the mindless instead since he already knows how after using his own version for years and Eren is still a newby on the matter.
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>>158882338
Pretty sure Grisha was touching the shit out of Frieda during the eating.
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>>158882306

He didn't have the coordinate until after the royal titan he killed and ate was already dead. If historia titanized herself, Eren could simply touch her and have free control over the coordinate as he did when he touched Dina. However, he is unwilling to put Historia through that, or even shorten her life by having her eat Annie. So instead, he is going to Paradis on his own, to find the only other royal eldian he knows about, Zeke, who is conveniently also a titan shifter.
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>>158882306
grisha didn't have the coordinate in him, it was different for him
>>158882337
do you think all the reiss are pure blood? anon, that's not how genes work
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>>158882053
If Eren hasn't met Armin and known about the ocean world, he would have felt that something is missing and would lived a boring life. I am pretty sure. Like in the High School AU, a loner.
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>>158882306
uhhh he was able to utilize the coordinates powers of mindwiping on Eren I would think, as he clearly fucked with his memories and Eren had to slowly unlock them over time, instead of just receiving the memories of Predecessor Shifters like the others seemingly do.

My guess is he was able to do that because he very much blatantly had touched royals in his acquisition of the Coordinate, and he was still able to utilize its power to a degree until he passed.
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Now that the dust has settled, what is the O MY RUBBER NEN moment in AoT
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>>158874668
>>158876746
>BREAKING: Japan elects anime character as Prime Minister
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>>158882363
Levi kills him
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>>158882302
I suppose? Because he has a goal, he's selfish? That doesn't discount that he's always fighting for other peoples' sake, and his desire for the liberation of those in a cage is overwhelming, but that alone wouldn't make him any more selfish than anyone else.
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>>158882386
>he was able to utilize the coordinates powers of mindwiping on Eren I would think, as he clearly fucked with his memories and Eren had to slowly unlock them over time
The Titan shifting will cause memory damage for anyone. Even BRA had the same problem.
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>>158882394
But doesn't Eren need a titanized royal?
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>>158882386
uhh no, if he was able to use coordinate then he would have change the memories of eldians in the walls, eren's fucked up memories are due to having 2 titans
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>>158882391

>>158881530
>>158881708
>>158881856
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>>158882432
levi stu can solo the entire marley army
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Eren can only access the Coordinate powers if he's balls deep in a Royal.
There.
It's settled.
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>>158882360
That's literally part of the plot, he needed to interact with Reiner and Annie. They teached him and he learned because he has a strong will and never gives up. I think your description is wrong, it's natural for someone to want to know the thruth, especially for someone like Eren.
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He is so /OurWarrior/ it ain't even funny
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>>158882515
If that's your argument, then literally everything is just part of the plot. Do character relationships not matter to you, or what? Armin never showed anything other than a desire to see his dream fulfilled. He's like Erwin in that respect, which concerns me for how he'll act now that he realized his dream and all. It's an open ended question for his character. But that's not the point, the point is that Eren's always asking questions and trying to better understand the world he lives in. Yes, it's natural for someone to want to know the truth like you said, and Eren especially wants to know it so he can act on it instead of being ignorant. How is that supposed to deny the point that he's curious? Doesn't that only add to it?
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>>158882431
>>158882457
how do either of you know either of this?

from what we know about what we have actually seen, Grisha was able to utilize it the coordinate and explicitly made it clear that Eren's memories would be fucked.

Grisha however seemingly did not have problems knowing Kruger's. The more prominent example is Galliard apparently has received basically most/all of Ymir's memories (but not anything beyond that) and he hasn't had Jaws for every long (as compared to Eren having Attack/Coordinate for much longer)

Eren could only do so much with the coordinate powers, it didn't last as we saw and he was only able to do so much. We can surmise that Grisha, not being a Royal, also cannot utilize its full potential.
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>>158882393
kek
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>>158882572
No, he's /oursoldier/
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>>158882401
>he's always fighting for other peoples' sake
That's not what it makes him move on. He saves people who is special to him. I thought Isayama's last interview and what he wrote about Armin and Eren's friendship was enough for you people to understand Eren.

>>158882345
It depends.
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>>158882591
Because they flat out say memory problems will occur before and after getting their Titans, both Grisha and Bertolt went out of their way to say it. Grisha would have activated the coordinate if he could, but he can't.
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>>158882611
/OURWARRIOR/
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>>158882591
If Grisha could use the full power of the Coordinate, why not order the mindless Titans out of Chimichanga and the Walls in general?
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Can someone explain the O MY OCEAN meme
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>>158882654
That whole speech was him trying to convince himself that he still believed in Zeke and the rest of Marleyan propaganda.
He failed.
He is not a Warrior anymore.
Punished Reiner. A man denied his place in the world.
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>>158882584
When did I say it does not matter? Understand things is just a natural desire of humans, I don't think that defines Eren's character, it's just natural, he hates ignorants.
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>>158882616
>He saves people who is special to him.
How does that change anything? He wants everyone to be free, and he wants to save humanity from extinction as its key weapon against the Titans. At least, those were his motivations up until the basement reveal happened, but later on it gets murky. We still need him to actually show up and affirm his goals post-timeskip to get a grasp of his character after it all but in the end he never quit being a soldier, and soldiers very much exist for the sake of other people.
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>>158882668
O MY RUBBER NEN
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>>158882701
i think actions speak louder than words, and he delivered
well he failed but he gave his best and took responsability
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>>158882701

>He is not a Warrior anymore.

Yes he is, but he only has a year-ish to live so they're finding him a successor.
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>>158882741
When does he say he wants everyone to be free and that he wants to save humanity from extinction? His will have always been kill the titans, avenge his mother, find peace. The one who thinks of humanity as a whole is Erwin.
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>>158882706
Because you said it was just a part of the plot, meaning that Annie and Reiner's relationships with him must mean nothing in the grand scheme of things to you? I don't understand what you're trying to get across. He can both hate people who remain ignorant and complacent and try to work towards being someone who is never ignorant and complacent. They feed into each other. Maybe, to you, it doesn't define his role in the story. But it does define a large part of his character and personality, which are more important that playing one's role in the story to a T. It's why Eren's so interesting to me, he's always expressing a desire to learn from others and even goes so far as to try and understand his enemies and their motivations because it agonizes him to not know why they're fighting.
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>>158882748
O MY BRAIN TRANSFER NEN
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Just started reading the manga. How many more chapters are expected before it ends? I hear you're at 94 now.
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>>158882798
>The one who thinks of humanity as a whole is Erwin.
You can't seriously believe this, do you? Pretty much everyone in the survey corps is thinking of humanity see pic related, Eren isn't an exception in this, he plays the rule perfectly.
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>>158882838
One more.
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Reminder gabi is literally /ourgirl/ , don't listen to anyone saying otherwise.
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>>158882838
I read somewhere that a year ago he was 60% done
We're getting close to endgame now.

Also get out of here before spoilers
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>>158882880
>inb4 muh war crimes
Gabi is cute
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>>158882880
Gabi is going to die in a horribly ironic way
She's begging to die despite Falco trying to stop it
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>>158882802
What? You were talking about Eren's desire to learn and that Reiner and Annie were his mentors. He didn't ask them to teach them so your argument of Eren wanting to learn is wrong. Understand his enemies? Are you sure you're not talking about Armin? You're not describing Eren.
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>>158882865
The SL isn't everyone. Eren has never said this, I am not wrong. He even admitted his reasons to join the Survey Corps.
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>>158882655
because he's not a royal. the same reason why Eren couldn't tell ALL the Titans on the Island, including the BRZP shifters to fuck off. There is only so much he can do with it. (that is, of course, assuming the Coordinate can control the other Shifters)

In the hands of a Royal, the Coordinates true powers are unlocked.
>But anon, Frieda lost to Grisha so she wasn't that great with it either
yes before you bring up the fact that, while in the hands of a Royal, the Coordinate was defeated.. even a Royal that literally has the Coordinate.. it takes time, practice/experience to properly use it

So no. Grisha would not be able to fully utilize the Coordinate powers the first day he got it because 1) he is not a royal, and 2) even if he was, he was inexperienced

MAYBE he could have one day, but it probably would take a lot longer and be much more difficult to master than it would a Royal; afterall look at the prerequisite required for a non Royal to even use the Coordinate abilities to begin with, it's not something so easily available.
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>>158882919
>He didn't ask them to teach them so your argument of Eren wanting to learn is wrong.
Just because someone doesn't open their mouths and ask someone to teach them doesn't mean they don't want to learn, learning is about keeping an open mind and taking lessons seriously, internalizing them and putting them to use practically. Eren does all of these things with Reiner and Annie. Reiner teaches him the responsibility of being a soldier and Eren comes to become the 104th's highest grade in CQC even though he initially thought such training was useless. Annie teaches him to be well aware of the world he lives in and to be perceptive of the fact that fighting really fucking hurts, and hurts others, so he better be ready to deal with that fact once the time comes. Not even mentioning the fact that she got him ready to be fighting enemies that weren't just giant man-eating monsters. And it's this same person that he tries to understand after being fully aware of her betrayal. I could go on.
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>>158882880
Disgusting sinful woman
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>>158882741
>>158882616
>>158882401
I always felt that he does it in a big part for his own ego. he is resentful of Mikasa's wins and constantly has this delusion that he must be the one who settles things. That ego is also reinforced by delusion whos purpose is to give meaning to all the death around him
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>>158883070
That doesn't make him a character that always want to learn. You're confusing it with his determination. Eren wants to know the truth rather than understand people. He wants answers.
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>>158882903
The very worst thing I can think of for her is she informs on Reiner and is killed for being what he was.
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>>158883165
He does not want answers, at least not in a pure way erwin wants them.
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>>158882992
>Arminwank the chapter
Yeah, no. He was always thinking about mankind's future.
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>>158876367
Thats what LMfags consider a ''moment'' for their shitty crack ship? telling her to protect the person she actually loves?
Damn...
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>>158883137
>That ego is also reinforced by delusion whos purpose is to give meaning to all the death around him
What delusion?
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>tfw he didn't kiss you
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>>158870364
raped and mutilated when?
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>>158883137
I agree. I don't know why people that claim to like Eren don't understand it.
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>>158883246
Wouldn't you rather be alive?
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>>158883202
He and Erwin are different. There's no point in comparing them. And he does.
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>>158883317
he could've still kissu afterwards but he didn't
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>>158883165
>That doesn't make him a character that always want to learn.
He's always shown that he enjoys learning new things and takes it seriously whenever the one teaching him is taking it seriously. And he definitely wants to understand people. He's always asking them questions. Asking questions is wanting to learn. What's so hard to get about that? How can you equate his questions and curiosity with just "determination"? It doesn't make any sense to me.
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>>158883205
Of course he does not want humanity to wipe out, he isn't a monster. But he never said his main goal is humanity to be free, that's not his purpose in life. Hange wants that.
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>>158883382
It's entirely possible for someone to have many things they want to happen, Eren wants humanity to be free as well as whatever else. He's been working towards that all his life, it's part of being a scout. Reducing characters to just one goal is shallow on one's own part.
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>>158883237
That their is some deeper meaning to all this. The other guy said eren wants answers but eren only wants that one elusive answer that he thinks will put everything in context, one that will turn the world sane or will at least let him ejaculate his rage. He feels like he has to be important and be the kind of man dying for whom would be justified, that burden gets bigger the more people die and more he fails but its not only a burden its also something his ego wants. Eren was always "wake up sheeple " type, imagine how his life would have gone if titans never showed up. He pays lip service to his shortcomings but when push comes to show he often views himself as better than others and views his failure only in the frame of how much grief it has brought him
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>>158883376
It doesn't make any sense to me that you think that asking questions defines his character as a person who always want to learn. You're saying this like they are qualities that define Eren as a character when it's not truth.
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>>158883376
is that page supposed to be proof? in my eyes that is not curiosity, its a reproach of "what the fuck is wrong with you, woman"
>Asking questions is wanting to learn.
wrong.
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>>158883417
Then you're literally saying that's what Eren wants. It's not just him, any human would want that.
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>>158883417
>It's entirely possible for someone to have many things they want to happen
true
>Eren wants humanity to be free
He wants to be "free" and looks down on others who don't want to be "free". you maybe projecting few things, feel free to post pages or speak of events that prove your point of view
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>>158883426
>He feels like he has to be important and be the kind of man dying for whom would be justified
That's completely wrong, he never wanted anyone to die for his sake and hated everyone moment someone else risked themselves for his sake. In fact he was more than happy to simply consider himself just another soldier all the way until graduation, and even pushed his friends to join anything but the scouts because it was dangerous. He didn't want Mikasa to join him because he knew she could have an easy life in the MPs. And I have no idea where you're getting that "he views himself as better than others and views his failures only in the frame of how much grief it has brought him" because he has a very low opinion of himself even privately and the first thing on his mind after losing a fight is "how is everyone else doing".
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Ahhh! No more snk anime tomorrow/today.
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>>158883514
>looks down on others who don't want to be "free"
That's wrong, he doesn't have an issue with it so long as they aren't obnoxious about it (like Jean) or become enemies to humanity. See pic related and his interactions with Annie and Bertolt. He has no issues with these people who openly declare their desires to join the MPs despite their skills, and in fact even goes so far as to have high praise and respect for them. They have no desire to be "free" and Annie even says it herself that the system is a farce which she's taking advantage of to his face, and he still thinks highly of her after the fact.
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>>158883543
That anon never said Eren wanted anyone to die. Read again.

>In fact he was more than happy to simply consider himself just another soldier all the way until graduation, and even pushed his friends to join anything but the scouts because it was dangerous.
What? He didn't want Mikasa to join because he didn't want her to protect him. He suggested Armin to not join the SL because he was weak, he didn't even say it in a sutile way.
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>>158883599
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>>158883246

Mikasa doesn't think about Eren that way
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@158883658
Reminder not to reply to this bait
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>>158880392
Have you ever into best friend?

Not that the correct decision wasn't to save Erwin, or that Eren shouldn't have fucked off, or that other soldiers wouldn't have yielded, but acting like its a fucking plot hole that Eren disobeyed orders in an attempt to save his friend is asinine.
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>>158883690
How to trigger a newfag.
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>>158883628
>He didn't want Mikasa to join because he didn't want her to protect him.
You can read it that way if you want, but I'm not of the mind that he has any enmity for her. He just doesn't want her to be put in danger, same goes for Armin, who would be in danger because of his weakness. Also, Armin was the one who said he was weak, not Eren. Eren was the one who reminded Armin that he got a recommendation to be a technician for the Garrison. He wants them both to live good lives, which doesn't necessitate following him, but he's doesn't treat their decisions without proper acceptance and respect after they've made their choices clear.
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>>158883690

What makes you think she does? It's the same shit with people who think Griffith is gay for guts
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>>158883709
It's not a plot hole, it just leaves a sick taste in my mouth after all the Arminwank. At the very least he should've been unsuccessful but the fact that Armin lived just made it feel like Isayama was trying to tell the reader, "look, see? I was right!" while neglecting the fact that any reader can tell Erwin was the better choice from a soldier's perspective. I'm well aware that even if Erwin lived, he'd just live to be hated and to become an empty person, but there were so many better ways for Isayama to write that chapter it just bothers me.
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>>158883719
It's not about what I want, that's what happened. You can see Eren is annoyed and he was about to say "because you are.." and Armin finished it and Eren never said he was wrong. Accept Eren the way he is, don't try to change him.
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>>158883720
Eren was always meant to belong to his Armin anyway.
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>>158883543
>he never wanted anyone to die
I never said he did
>In fact he was more than happy to simply consider himself just another soldier
no, he always wants to be the star. he hate being average and once his world went to shit for a while it was enough for him just to be but soon everyone around him was a soldier, so he constantly angles for top soldier position and often has no respect for chain of command
>He didn't want Mikasa to join him because he knew she could have an easy life in the MPs
He did not want mikasa to join because he feels himself in her shadow. When they were kids he could never strike out on his own
>low opinion of himself
he has self deprecating view of himself but like most people who talk shit about themselves, he does not think it in his heart of hearts. he is not shinji
>I have no idea where you're getting that
He is always "oh muh dead comrades, welp on to the next team" in rare moments of clarity he may think of what should be changed but never follows through (like when he was going to pump reiner for info but then lost it like always) When he fucks up the focus is less on how much it sucks for them and more on eren's feelings and I don't mean in a good way, more like when a female YA protagonist finds out something horrible happens to her friends and her focus is on how it makes her feel instead of how their feel
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>>158883810
He's only annoyed because she doesn't go for the best option and instead throws herself into danger for his sake, which he doesn't want but respects anyway. And there's nothing wrong with saying Armin's weak if it's the truth, lying would have been even worse, instead Eren reminded him of the role he was better suited for which took advantage of the strengths that he did have. You're making it out like Eren doesn't care for either of them when he's able to worry for them even when he's practically being crushed by a damn boulder. He wants the best for them, but respects their decisions even if he doesn't approve.
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>>158883719
>enmity
resentment is the word.
>He just doesn't want her to be put in danger
such lofty views are beyond him, he may use them as platitudes. he was getting ready to cast of "dead weight" in a polite way, then he realized he was the dead weight and then he started flip flopping on it due to rising number of powers
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>>158883765
Literally only two persons wanted Armin to survive and it gets you mad? I don't know what you people want. Everyone know Erwin was the right choice, why do you think Armin was so sad?
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>>158883896
>He's only annoyed because she doesn't go for the best option and instead throws herself into danger for his sake.
Please. There's a parallel to that page in chapter 73 when Eren admites he was jealous of Mikasa. And this only proves Eren doesn't even notice Armin hates to be treat like that. I am not making it out, this is literally what happened. I never said Eren doesn't care about AM.
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>>158883865
>no, he always wants to be the star.
He doesn't. If you really think that, post a page or two to prove it. He just plays his role properly, he had zero intentions of being anyone special from the start and only became something special because of his titan powers and because the situation forced him into the role. The rest of your points don't make any sense to me, he didn't become an A-grade soldier for any other reason than to train himself well and the only time he ever disrespected chain of command was the serumbowl. He was ready to get eaten by Historia because he legitimately thought his existence was a mistake. The deaths of others for his sake weigh on him for the whole length of the series, even years after the Female Titan arc ended you can still see him mourning the special ops squad in his head.
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>>158883813
https://exhentai.org/s/65f1679e1f/693630-6
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>>158883988
Yes, he can be jealous of her, but that doesn't mean he doesn't want the best for her. You said the reason he didn't want her joining the scouts was because he didn't want her to protect him, but I say that it's because he didn't think it was in her best interests, same goes for what he said to Armin.
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>>158883896
I think you are lying to yourself, all the flashbacks point to different reading. caring about people does not mean you can't want them out of the way for a while
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>>158884064
If it's all gonna came back to personal perspective then it's pointless to argue it, I read it like he wants the best for them, not that he's letting resentment for either guide his tongue. Maybe if he continued to urge them not to after they made their choices clear I could see some merit to the argument that he just doesn't want them around, but since he takes it in stride after they give their reasoning, it doesn't give me that impression.
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>>158884052
That's not the point of that page. That's what you think and you can't prove it either.
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>>158883561
The wait for season 3 begins. At least it'll be here sooner than the last one.
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>>158884096
>you can't prove it either
He always wants the best for AM throughout the series, is that not proof enough? I don't even like EMA's relationships much but Eren undeniably cares for them both and wants the best for them.
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>>158884064
This. It's the same Erenfag that doesn't even understand his character at all.
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>>158884120
Never said he doesn't but that wasn't the case in that scene.
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>>158884122
I understand his character plenty, but when you try to say his most notable traits are being a selfish egotistical ignorant kid who thinks people dying for him is necessary it begets arguments and differences in opinions.
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>>158884178
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>>158884177
Nobody said he is an ignorant, though I think he is. And I have already told you being selfish isn't something wrong.
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>>158884177
>who thinks people dying for him is necessary
no one said that but the rest is true.
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>>158884157
I still disagree, though you did convince me that he might be a little annoyed because she just made a fool of him by bringing him outside over her shoulder. It still wasn't what made him tell her to go to the MPs for, he wouldn't bring up the fact that she's being recognized as a prodigy if it was all about his own desire to keep her away, he'd just tell her to leave him alone if that were the case. Same with Armin. It's deeper than just "I don't want them here". It's more like "I think these two can do better in other places but if they want to follow me instead, okay".
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>>158884214
>>158884229
He isn't any of those, though. His whole purpose in life from the very first chapter is to NOT die as one of those selfish, egotistical ignorants that are fine with staying complacent inside the walls.
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>>158884281
being outside the walls does not mean you cant be egotistical and ignorant
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>>158872049

Pairing Mikasa with a character is like attacking that character. Annie, Hanji and Hisu are much better than her.
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>>158883658
Sure... she just attempted to make out with him just for fun, right?
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