Gundam Twilight AXIS Episode 1

subs fucking when

>>158853956
https://youtu.be/zax3LcPvfsA

>>158853956
click on the wheel and change the subs to whatever you like

>>158853725
Wish they would do actual full or even half length episodes rather than the stupid 3 minute snippets. This felt more like a shitty trailer.

>>158854306
Why so many dislikes?

>>158855389
It's a short, not a full-fledged TV series

Frankly, I see it more as an Sejoon Kim's demo reel

>>158855435
I thought it was going to be an OVA series. Why the fuck did they do three minute shorts for a Gundam series of all things?

This 15 second clip was better than any sequence in 50 episodes of IBO.

>>158855463
Did you not like what you saw?

The zeonwank has to stop.

>>158856188
There were exactly two zeeks present plus the Red Zaku III at the end.
Watch more Gundam.

>>158856555
You're retarded aren't you?

>>158856188
But Zeonwank sells like crazy. That's really all people give a fuck about. They know Gundam is bad but they'll keep shouting "SIEG ZEON!!!!!" no matter how shit the franchise is. It's kind of sad but that's what UC fans like.

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>>158856188
Like it or not, Gundam IS Zeon.
The most profitable series are riding the Zeon train, the biggest flops were the series that tried to distance themselves from early UC.
You think Banrise doesn't realize this?
As long as it sells, get ready for "Neo Neo Super Ultra Neo Neo Hyper X Fighting Continuum Neo Zeon The Ultimate 3: The Electric Boogalo 2" uprising.

I'm convinced people who unironically use the term zeonwank never watched Zeta. Fucking idiots.

>>158857373
Watching anything gundam outside OVAs is a waste of time.

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Zeon fanboys

>>158857687
>go zeon
>I heart char aznable
That is how you know people who complain about the plot and the characters don't really pay attention and just look at pretty pictures.

>>158853725
>tfw no ple clone cute side story
>tfw TA is literally more char dicksucking and amuro cucking

>>158858512
>tfw no ple clone cute side story
Purus were made for suffering, see Marida
>tfw TA is literally more char dicksucking and amuro cucking
"I've never watched the original anime trilogy": The Post

>>158858512
>there will never be a post-Sentinel story about what Amuro does during the ZZ storyline
>literally his only other side story is a slapstick manga by Yas
What the fuck Japan

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>>158858091
Zeon =/= Zabi

>>158859070
The Zabis were the best thing to happen to Zeon. Char Aznable is a literal pedophile and a sociopath.

>>158859225
>literal pedophile
How the hell did this come about?
Is it something that happens in CCA or The Origin?

>>158853956
>First female protagonist
>3 minute shorts
Sasuga Sunrise

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>>158859225

>literal pedophile

If that's a minus for you then leave /a/ forever

>>158859769
go away neo-/a/

>>158859611
>First female protagonist
Wrong.

>>158861152
Kamille amiriteeee

>>158855530
Same, but with G-Reco

Kill yourselves feddies.

>>158859070
Okay, lets take a look at the other Zeon movements.

>Delaz Fleet
>People who practically worshipped Ghiren who stole a nuclear gundam and wiped out a good chunk of the EFF fleet with it during a naval review followed by a colony drop on random farmers in order to hopefully create a food shortage and spark unrest in the colonies in the hope that a new spacenoid movement would rise up.

>Haman's Neo Zeon
>Wanted to install the final Zabi as the ruler of the Earthsphere while secretly using her as a puppet to amass wealth and power. Dropped a colony on a civilian city as a "warning". Backstabbed their allies at the soonest possibility and fucked themselves over with infighting due to a baseless claim to a rival for the zabi throne.

>Char's Neo Zeon
>Wanted to force the remaining population into space and allow Earth to heal by dropping a massive asteroid on it and rendering Earth inhospitable to life for the foreseeable future but their leader shoots it all in the foot over his obsession with having one last fight with a rival who stopped caring about that. In the end his own troops turn against him and help stop the drop.

>The Sleeves (aka neo neo neo zeon)
>Wanted to acquire the macguffin and use it to cause civil unrest in order to prevent the Republic of Zeon from being dissolved and side 3 from being officially reabsorbed into the EF. When offered the map to the macguffin on the condition that they don't bring MS and start a fight, they brought MS and started a fight, followed by riling up zeon remnants on Earth into pointlessly attacking population centers (and being pretty much wiped out themselves in the process) and then getting told to fuck off and that their plan is stupid even by the last Zabi. Their leader turned out to be posessed by part of a magical ghost who already fucked over a zeon movement before this, and instead of just using his god-like machine to kill the last remaining obstacle in his path he showed him a magical slideshow.

Was that a sazabi or zaku at the end?

>>158857004
>muh zeon
>muh zeon remnants
>muh neo zeon
>muh neo neo zeon
>muh neo neo neo zeon
>moon zeon
>mars zeon

I know! we need to have another spacenoid movement, taking place in UC 0179, based on a war they lost a century ago! Saturn Zeon!

>>158859769
Did char also sex haman when she was 12 or 13? Someone told me that online but I'm not sure if canon.

>>158863634
Zaku III.

>>158853725
>Iron blooded failure
So you came to fucking /a/ of all places because you kept getting BTFO'd from /m/ everytime you tried to say IBO was a failure? Hahaha God you're pathetic, to fucking /a/ of all places.

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>/m/
>liking IBO

lel

Is this before or after F91?

>>158853725
Can I watch this I only watched gundam up untill the first episode of victory?

>>158866706
No
Watch the movies of the first series, Char's counterattack, Unicorn, then this

>>158866751
Why do.I need to watch the movies if I have already seen the tv series and I already watched CCA.
When I mean everything up untill thw first episode of victory I mean I watched every animated gundam series/movies/OVA that got released up.untill victory episode 1.

>>158866697
Before. If I've understood things correctly, the salvaging group that made this gundam goes on to make the MS the Crossbone Vanguard use.

>>158866960
Oh I see, I misunderstood. Go ahead and watch it then, but even with the necessary context it's a jumbled mess

>>158866646
Liking it or not has nothing to do with facts, that's the reason why /m/ is shit.

>>158866503
He's so pathetic and ridiculous is almost cute, like a kid with downs.

>>158855435
>It's a short, not a full-fledged TV series

into the trash

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>>158853725
Not a big fan of IBO myself but jesus the levels of hate are reaching autistic levels. that whole True Gundam Fan nonsense is bollocks.

Anyways, I actually liked the shorts, the OST was awesome and I read the story on Zeonic Scanlations and it's pretty good.

>>158868447
Its an obsessive shitposter from /m/. He shat up ibo threads on both boards and on /m/ he keeps making hate threads and bumping them every few hours. Its gotten really sad when you look at any one thread he makes and the last 5 posts are all him blatantly samefagging himselfself and trying to force his meme shit that never caught on.

>>158868447
It's probably autism. Even if IBO was good some faggots would still hate it for being different. Breaking the routine or some shit like that.

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>>158868648
So it's all the same guy? Wow, some people are really obsessed with things they hate. I bet he's the same guy that keeps saying SEED was better.

>>158868447
>>158868773
Hard to believe these are the same character.

>>158862352
Forgot Glemy's Neo Zeon aka best Zeon

>>158868773
he is. /m/ has gotten a few really, really autistic shitposters over the last two years or so, probably fewer than five of them all together but combined they have seriously damaged the board.

>>158869218
>Forgot Glemy's Neo Zeon
>and fucked themselves over with infighting due to a baseless claim to a rival for the zabi throne.

>>158869119
Adaptation's one hell of a drug.

>>158869245
I have a feeling these are the same guys from the G-Reco threads.

>>158869470
I fucking hate how much damage a single person can do to an entire board these days. The Ragers on /m/, Alphonse on /o/, cram enough autism in one person and the entire board goes to shit. Between people like that and the tacit acceptance of shitposting as a passtime and a fact of life, things aren't looking good for the site as a whole these days.

>>158869576
I agree. I used to post on /m/ regularly until the autism started. The ragers on /m/ all post like gaiafags and 12 year olds.

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>>158856016
Did Arlette want Char's D? She didn't look to happy about the whole Lalah thing.

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>>158870271
You tell me.

>>158870296
You can hear the moment she creams herself.

>>158853725
Bandai where is my metal vs EDM gendum?

UCfags in full denial, IBO was better than this, cucks !

>>158870431
Scroll up, Hermano. You've been figured out.

The Gundam looks extremely close to the GP01 in its design. Is this just a coincidence?

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>>158870513
It's just a refurbished Gundam Alex.

>>158870576
>a
The.
How the group got its hands on it, nobody knows yet, but the Ronahs definitely had a hand in it.

>>158870610
That sounds pretty cool, I'm hoping we find out more about that.

>>158870576
>>158870610
Wait, so this is the same machine that Christina piloted in 0080?

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>>158870705
Pretty much.

>>158870705
The very same. Here, let me give you a quick rundown of what we know so far for those who aren't caught up yet.

>Survey team is Federal
>Made up of both Federation soldiers and civilian volunteers, a handful happen to be Ex-Zeeks that help out
>The Zaku III was pretty much just found and commandeered by them
>Other side is a vague PMC-ish merc deal
>Made up of mostly rouge Feddies and civilians
>Both groups are investigating Axis
>PMC Merc dudes are backed by the Ronahs, searching for something specific, likely the remains of Char's MS for the Psycoframe technology
>Tristan is literally THE Alex, refurbished and upgraded with design cues (and probably actual parts) of the MkII
>The series is supposed to tie into the timeline leading up to F91 and will likely feature an actual Ronah/Buch Concern cameo

>>158868447
>>158868773
Arlette is so god damn cute. Beauty mark + braided pony tail is a deadly combo.

>>158870705
Yeah. It's the Alex, but customized with scrap parts. The head and torso are completely new.

Tristan has such a sexy head design

>>158853725
IBO was a masterpiece

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>video is only 3 minutes long
Sigh.

>>158872667
*
Fuck me, is this the new Pokemon Generations? What the fuck is with the episode length?

>>158868648
>>158868773
It is not one person, this is a boogeyman for IBOfags to pin any post they do not approve of.

>>158872160
Iron Menstruation sucked, ANN.

>>158869576
>I have no evidenceof these numbers

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>>158872160

>>158873036
No, he uses very particular terms such as Iron Menstration and Felcher-gundam.
See >158873095

>>158873135
So what, you think a coordinated effort is more likely? Are you high?

>>158873209
Right, /m/ is small as is. It really is just one faggot trying to force that crap. I'm fairly neutral to IBO (except for those sexy MS), but it isn't that bad. More boring than bad. Felcher-fag is just one person who is incredibly butthurt.

>>158873698
>I'm fairly neutral to IBO (except for those sexy MS), but it isn't that bad. More boring than bad.
This is legitimately how most of /m/ feels about IBO. They don't hate the show as much as they hate bandwagoners who think Gundam minus the beamspam equals the next coming of Christ.
Regardless, Felcherfag is in the wrong and needs to leave /m/ and /a/.

>>158873923
THere was a poll taken over a number of days with, I think, a couple hundred responses. The rating averaged out to a very low 5. /m/ merely considers IBO to be boring, flat and completely unambitious. Felcherfag acts like it is an affront to life itself and won't stop samefagging his own threads with literally copypasted canned responses.

When asked to stop he gave a list of demands that had nothing to do with 4chan and included some ANN writers or something and an apology about how they treated Greco and refused to stop until that stuff happens. So yes, he has admitted to it.

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>>158870705
It is literally THE Alex gundam, yes. It was created by a junk/salvage subcontractor of AE that later went on to develop the crossbone Vanguard MS. They refurbished it with a mix of salvaged parts and some newer parts.

The HG is being widely panned because Bandai reused the old HGUC Alex for it.

What did you guys think of the animation for Twilight AXIS?

>>158853725
I would kill for a Crossbone adaptation rather than this crap.

Even IBO was better than this.

>>158874185
Art was nice, animation was a bit shoddy along with the pacing.

>>158864916
No, that never happened.
In the CDA manga, Haman tried to sex Char when she was like 14-15. Char told her to GTFO and git gud at piloting before she'd even get a shot. When Haman went to git gud, Char porked and impregnated Haman's caretaker/secretary.

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I am forever salty that not only did Bandai make one of the two lead ms a P-Bandai release, but the reused the horrendous 17 year old hguc zaku III molds for it. Its got terrible and innacurate proportions, brick-like articulation, soft and scarce detail, and big blocky hands. This was the best chance we had for an updated zaku III kit and we got this crap instead.

>>158874556
>Char porked and impregnated Haman's caretaker/secretary
Anything interesting happen to the child?

>>158867245
>>158867245

i thought this was just some mid UC stuff (after 96, before victory).

>>158853725
You fucking shit ucfags
IBO is the best gundam

>>158853725
IBO > pussy uc laser beam

>158874809
>158874905
newfag or falseflagger?

>>158863800

At least the first few zeon wars made sense. All over a 30-40 year span, so it's reasonable that a few people (who live 80-100 years) can be alive for that period to be butt hurt enough to want to kill feddies. Hell even the civvies are justified to continue the war(s) after the crap that was pulled by the titans and feddies failure (complacency) to save dublin/side 3.

But hey, what the fuck else are they going to war over in later UC anyway.
>muh independence
>no independence allowed!
>I want your resources!
>you can't have my resources!
>newtypes!? they exist!
>oppression! get off the earth it's polluted! corruption!

And what ever the fuck victory is about, I haven't watched it all yet but my guess is that ring-like ship is some cryo-seed ship.

I think the early UC is liked because because it's first got characters you know and like (even if they die eventually) and follows a few engagements over a few decades. Though it has some fucking insane power creep both in mech tech and magic.

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>>158874905
Nice reverse trolling

>>158875222
Who thought bringing Amuro back for the movie was a good idea?

>>158875766
It's literally the entire point of the movie. It's a rehash of Kamille and Jerid's last fight, but it's stlll the whole point.

>>158875222
Laser beam is just for pussy

>>158858795

What the fuck was kameille and the jupiter fleet doing in CCA and Unicorn? Isn't it only a 3 year round trip?

>>158859070

The original idea for independence from EF was fine. What the Zabi's did was terrible, worse than the trade/oppression EF was implied to be doing. But then it goes full circle as titans and further EF do horrible shit as well. No Zeon remnant wanted purely self governance and to be considered a 'nation' in their own right, they all had to play pretend and throw large objects around, then some how build massive fucking armadas all to loose them. How the fuck after gryps was there enough people to fill the zeon ranks? Fucking millions had to get vaporized in OYW and Z.

>>158876450
You mean Judau.
1. Jupiter Energy fleet isn't a military force or it's own faction any more and Jupiter doesn't form its own faction after Paptimus until well into UC100's.
2. Judau was never a formal member of the Federation or even AEUG so after he fucked off he was straight done with everything.
3. Kamille, according to supplementary material, developed a strong distaste for fighting and became a doctor.

>>158876586
Well, Char's Neo-Zeon only had 89 Geara Dogas, a handful of other MS, and a single fleet of little more than ten ships. The Sleeves had even fewer. The only odd thing out of Unicorn is the fact the ground based remnants still had that many functional machines and transports left hidden after rising up three damn times.

>>158876605

Oh, I thought Jupiter Fleet was more affiliated to EF (funding, personnel), but were somehow 'neutral' enough that they sell fuel to EF, Zeon and colonies.

>>158873216
More like a ton of copycats and zealots. You guys are paranoid and have autism tourettes.

>>158876700
They do. but they don't pull bullshit until after Hathaway has his bitchfit.

>>158853725
>the original white devil
>not consistantly a blurry monster running on stuttering bullshit and reality warping insanity
not muh gundam, fuck off with this shit.

>>158876740
/m/ isn't a large board and if that were true there'd be more variation in the posts and it would be happening at nearly all hours. It's incredibly obvious when he goes on a shitposting binge.

>>158874058
You sure that was really him and not someone fucking with you?

>>158876803
Positive. It was in the middle of one of his shitposting binges and he'd been shitting up the thread he posted that in for a while.

>>158876758
You're an asshole but the
>consistantly a blurry monster running on stuttering bullshit and reality warping insanity
threads were some of the best on /m/

>>158876779
It is much easier to copy other people, kindly study forensics and grow a brain.

>>158853725
But IBO was actually a coherent well told story.

Unlike G-Reco, the "Star Wars: The Phantom Menace" of the Gundam Franchise.

>>158876874
and i will argue its canon until the day i die.
eh oh well.

>>158876841
In other words you have no hard proof, you are a cognitive meiser, and you people cannot tell you are being invaded by bare bones zealots.

>>158876891
Because newfags think this the best gundam

>>158876891

Only issue I had with it was the erratic dialog, more erratic than what I'm used to from him. Also that whole 'post turn a' implication.

>>158876891
Hi Anime Suki, care to lie more?

>>158876885
>muh stand alone complex
Unless you can prove that it's multiple people copying eachother, which you probably can't because it's clear you don't even go to /m/ and you're just posting conjecture, I'm going to continue concurring with the conclusion that the vast majority of the board has made that felcherfag is one of the handful of shitposters known as the 'ragers' that have cropped up the last few years. Stop pretending you know what you're talking about.

>>158876943
Prove it. The patterns all point to one or two dedicated autists. Always happens at the same times of day and the posts are always 1-2 minutes apart.

>>158876980
Don't you mean ANN, you colossal waste of oxygen?

>>158877036
I like how you bring up patterns and never go into detail with them. Almost as if you are projecting one nonexistent boogeyman.

greco was shit, complete and utter shit

ibo was slightly less shit

Turn A remains the pinnacle of the franchise.

>>158877155
What part of 1 to 2 minutes apart and the previous posts about the terms "Felcher-fag" and "Iron Menstruation" did you not understand?

>>158874735
Haman had them killed

>>158877155
Never go into detail with them? I'm not going to waste my time crawling through /m/ to find his posts just to appease you. He posts at the same time of day, indicating a single timezone. He posts the same one or two sentence responses and OPs, always using the terms Irritating Bowel Odor, iron Menstruation or Felcher Gundam if he's not bringing up some new bullshit ANN article. He always response to his own posts as soon as the cooldown time allows him to. He always blames ANN for having 'bad math' and accuses them of shitting on greco. He accuses anybody who replies to him of being from ANN or being an assblasted IBOtard.

I'm fucking done wasting my time on this, I have better things to do.

>>158877326
fug

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>>158877180
>greco was shit, complete and utter shit

>ibo was slightly less shit

>>158877180
If IBO less shit why many people like it

>>158877393
>why many people like it
People, not Gundam fans.

>>158877393
because it followed up greco, which was objectively worse, and it's the "new" gundam of the season, so new watchers don't know any better

lesser of two evils, etc

>>158876980
Just admit Tomino is past his prime, and move on. I love the man, but he's entered his "rambling old man" phase for storytelling.

>>158877477
But this the best gundam MC is not pussy like other gundam MC

>>158877644
see the 4th sentence of this post >>158858780

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>>158877393
>why many people like it
People thought it was boring shit only a select few of retards and fujoshits thought it was good. Even Japs agree that IBO was worse.

>>158877809
>implying elevens ever have anything but the shittiest possible taste

come on man, at least try

>>158877333
Wow, someone asks you to bring evidence and you /y/ne and scoff off, typical mung drunker,

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>>158877838
>Japan has shit taste meme
Yeah because we all know westerners have great taste in anime.

>>158877477
>which was objectively worse
Wrong
>>158877550
I'll admit Tomino declined once he finished Victory, but G-Reco was a massive step up from Turn A, Brain Powerd, and especially Wings of Rean.

>>158877477
>lesser of two evils
Nah it just attracted the retards who still cling to their edgy Gundam fantasy while everyone else just dismissed it.

>>158877888
The trips are wasted on you. You want proof, go to fucking /m/ and look for it. I have to get up for work in the morning. Stop fucking defending this pile of human feces.

>>158877036
>Don't you mean ANN, you colossal waste of oxygen?
Your supposd scapegoat brings up Anime New Network, Anime Suki, Evageeks, and Mecha Talk. For someone that supposedly finds patterns you aren't observant, are you?
>>158877333
>Irritating Bowel Odor, iron Menstruation or Felcher Gundam
You're forgetting Iron Blooded Ovaries

>>158877895
>I'm one of the 3 burto states
>still give no fucks because it's a) shitroll and b) streaming

>>158877946
>gwrecko
>a step up from fucking anything except maybe seed
pffft

>>158877955
gundam is edgy you fucking mongoloid

cold-blooded genocide both in space via poison gas, and earth via FUCKING COLONY DROPS

it's just the the older shows weren't as in your face about it

>>158875210
>but my guess is that ring-like ship is some cryo-seed ship.

You mean the Angel Halo? Its packed full of "Espers" (Low level weak almost-newtypes) with a powerful newtype at the center to cordinate control of their psycowaves. The device was supposed to emmit psychic waves that make people passive and docile to use for calming riots in colonies and conducting non-violent takeovers. Of course, it turned out to have the side effect of making animals and people retarded and actually doing cellular damage to organic life, so Zanscar decided to use it to kill everyone on earth for an easy takeover.

>>158877967
I go to /m/ and don't see the shit posting you're shitting your pants over.

This thread has proved either /m/ is too stupid to realize it is being overrun or trolls are using propaganda to make a samfagging boogeyman.

Go away Felcherfag, no one loves you on /m/ nor /a/.

>>158878474
>paranoid mung drinker thinks it's me

I'll add that one to the list, Felcher-fag

>>158878736
I'm not felcherfag, mung drinker

Sure thing, Felcher-fag. Go back to posting "mecha-sarkeesian" articles and bumping your own threads.

>>158878057
That wasn't a side effect, that was a feature kagatie had built in so he could threaten the EF with it. He just told maria and shakti that was only meant to pacify people so they'd go along with it.

>>158878888
>being this paranoid and thinking this is a thing
Mung Drinker is your new name until further notice.

>>158875826
Hmm. Never saw it in that light, but it makes sense.

>>158877809
Hahahah a fucking pie. I snorted

>>158874716
they just don't give a fuck seemingly. I don't see the point in trying to cash in on a 3 minute per episode show if they were going to sell recolored shit molds, one being a premium product only. People will defend this decision by bandai but I see it as a major blunder, they could at least make new molds for Alex and Zaku III and release them at a later date if production scheduling would be very delayed or something.

Whatever you said, Felcher-fag. Use some more insults so I can update the /m/ wiki on filtering certain users.

>>158879281
>implying there is an /m/ wiki
Mung Drinker pls go

I'm not as disgusted by the shortness as much as I am with the slideshow animation. Even Unicorn had a magnificent teaser trailer to commercialize the novels way before the OVAs were greenlit. This is just abysmal and makes me give even less of a shit for the Twilight Axis novel than I already did.

Please let the Twilight Axis novel continue production after this slideshow gets done airing.

>>158878932
Sorry, I was going off crossbone ghost for that bit. In the manga its one of the technologies that the reformed Jupiter empire built on contract and it was listed as being made for riot supression, which is why they went ahead and designed it for zanscar.

Hang your life, Felcher-fag.
You're using 4chan as your blog and no one wants to subscribe to you.

>>158879599
Mung Drinker nobody cares about your paranoia

How does it feel to not get any (You)s, Felcher-fag? I have plenty to share from you, but I'm not really feeling it.
What does Mung mean anyways?
I haven't browsed UD since '09 or so and am not into such grotesque things.

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Reminder that Bandai actually gave some indication of kit sales for ibo and announced it as a major success the other month with over 3 million units of kits sold.

>>158879707
I'm not felcherfag, grow up

Oh, am I getting to you?
Did I hit a nerve, Felcher-fag?
Not even calling me nicknames anymore?
That's too bad, I was just starting to have fun.

Looks like you're the one with a struck nerve, mung drinker

>>158879718
I think the vast majority of us can agree that IBO had some really excellent MS design. The models seemed pretty good too.

>>158879918
>I think the vast majority of us can agree that IBO had some really excellent MS design.
Nope, I thought they mostly sucked balls.

>>158879865
You are more pathetic than the guy you are complaining about.

Just couldn't stay away, could you Felcher-fag?
I was even going to stop replying since you sunk to not giving me any (You)s but I guess you've got Stockholm Syndrome.
Go ahead, give me another one, Felcher-fag.

>>158879718
And yet Japan reviles the series, go figure

>>158880077
>look ma I'm trolling

>>158880077
What if felcherfag isn't doing it for the (You)s, but rather to dominate conversation and alter the zeitgeist?

>>158880125
I knew it.
Sasuga, Felcher-fag.
What Gundam series are you even watching currently. I suggest 0079 TV series, since I know you haven't bothered with it yet.

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>>158879918
The kits were for the most part extremely well done with only a couple of exceptions like the reginlaze having some loose parts. They're great if you want to try out kitbashing and customizing as well.

>>158880168
I wouldn't care, this is /a/ and not /m/ after all.
I tried to prompt (non-gunpla) discussion in the thread earlier but no one replied so this is slightly better.

>>158880181
You're being played like a fiddle, anon. This is what zealots want, make your side look dumb so their side can dominate more minds over time, have you never taken a rhetoric class?

>implying I would even care about mumbo-jumbo that hardly affects my everyday life
My degree is in SE, I took such courses in 2010 or so but they weren't anything I bothered applying or making use of later on.
I'm obviously not out to change anyone's mind, people are going to believe what they want to and be jackasses if they please. I'd just rather them do it somewhere else.

>>158876874
Context.

>>158880083
Cool looking suits that make gunpla worth buying is not mutually inclusive to an appealing show that advertises said suits.

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More UC racism

>>158877838
Both shows are terrible though, they just picked the lesser of two evils.

>>158857373
I'm convinced they never watched the original series.

"The federation aren't nice people" has been a thing since day 1.Literally episode 1 where people are like "wtf are the feds doing building secret weapons in the middle of a city"

>>158853725
>another UC shitfest

Dropped. 0083 and 8th MS Team were the only non-shit UC Gundams.

>>158884992
This is some next level bait.

>>158882674
That's nothing compared to CE racism with Blue Cosmos where they're literally worse than Hitler in their hate against Coordinators.

>>158868447
>the levels of hate are reaching autistic levels
Beyond the fact that IBO wasn't good, which is pretty much the standard for anime anyway, the thing taking 18 months or so to wrap up is what brought things to where they are.

>>158885022
Non-UC is just consistently better than UC in every way.

>Watching victory
>Char clone says gundam is a symbol of the spacenoid race
Sweet baby jesus amuro must be rolling over his newtype grave

>>158858780
I wonder if we'll ever get to see cameos of her in twilight axis

Why gundam has such a cancerous fanbase ?