For old times sake lads, lets have a thread without shitty memes

http://live2.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv301236311

Kouki is streaming.

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>>158847644
I wish back the good old times when these threads were just called Muv-Luv and started with these images.

>>158847644
>maburabu is now ancient history

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Hey there, sexy

How will KimiMuv end?

>>158851619
BETA invasion

Is android vn version happening or they just lied straight to the fans?

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But what are we without our terrible memes?

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Good thread

>>158852685
So far it doesn't look like they'll even deliver alternative

>>158853201
Its almost a year from Extra/Unlimited release in Steam. Going to be pretty ridiculous if they end up releasing Alternative in Fall or something.

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>>158847644
It's sorta impossible to have those threads without the Schwarzesmarken fags coming in and turning it into their own little general.

It's going to get interesting when MLA on Steam rolls around, though. Lots of new recruits to join the ranks of post-Muv Luv PTSD.

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Manga translations is taking forever ;_;

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>>158847644
>>158848415
Tfw I always see this image in /a/ years ago and just ignore it most of the time cause I dont know who sumika is cause i only read unlimited and i thought extra is actually extra aka spinoff.

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>>158855004
But you have to finish Extra *twice* to even unlock Unlimited.

>>158852685
>>158853201
>>158853401
A few screenshots have been posted on either Evan's page or somewhere else but despite that I wouldn't be surprised if they wait till Octobre to release the damn thing. And I'm not even talking about all those other promises they made with the Kickstarter. They really ate more than they could chew.

>>158854854
This is one of my reasons to start learning moon. Was it still running or did its publishing end by now?

>>158855072
I mean the manga. I only started the vn a few months ago.
Only started with the Jap stuff when my PC cant handle modern western gaymen anymore.

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>>158847644
>>158848415

>>158852936
Outdated, no one posts any of these anymore.

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Then someone has to

>>158855799

Yui is for abandoning in Anchorage and making her get a job at the Bush Club to afford a ticket home.

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Were there healthy versions of maburabu ever posted?

>>158847644

The main thing I do not understand is why anyone who went through Extra, Unlimited, and Alternative could possibly enjoy Schwarzmarken or the Alaska nonsense or any of that. The plots are really boring and pedestrian. The character struggles are uninteresting. And these all cover events where we already know what happened.

Age should focus on continuing the Alternative Universe. Since Sumika/Takeru are not going to be able to save it, it would be interesting to see how the whole place stands on its own two feet and what progress they can make against the Beta given the time they bought. But going back into past is stupid and to do it with flatly inferior characters and no real stakes is absolutely a waste of our time.

Why would anyone post about this stuff or follow it at all. It makes no sense.

>>158856799
I honestly wish Takeru didn't get the memory wipe. I'm okay with it resetting back to his first meeting with Meiya (and I guess Yuuhi), but he should have kept the trauma. Would have made Altered Fable a bit more interesting.

>>158856799
World building before they go into moon / mars?

>>158856799
I like SM setting a lot, but I never managed to care about its characters, which was one of my main reasons I loved Trilogy. I havent read Martyrs yet and I dunno if I even buy it, but first vn had same problem as that shitty anime adaption of it. I just couldnt care about its characters. I never hated any of them, I was just indifferent.

But yeah, I should give it more thought if I ever get motivated enough to buy Martyrs. I'd like to add it in my ML collection at least.

>>158856314
Mitsurugi sisters still best girls.

>>158855799
Jesus.

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>>158855799
All of my babies.

>>158851619
With Takeru going 2/2 and NTRing Bakayuki twice.

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I'm bringing gifts as i promised.

http://imgur.com/a/0wkQI

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>>158865836

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So do you guys think we'll be able to play Schwarzesmarken and Total Eclipse translated into English sometime before 2020 rolls around? What about TDA3?

I neeed my regular dose of Muv Luv and the Kimi ga Muv Luv thing isn't cutting it for me.

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>>158867293
SM should be getting demo at least, unless they dropped that idea. And the vn passed greenlight in Steam already. I guess KS team go for it after they are done with photonflowers and melodies.

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Why is Inia so sexual?

>>158867938
2nd best race in the series just behind Sweden

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I'm surprised this thread is still alive.

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This is your partner for tonight.

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>>158869213

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>>158865836
Dat look of uncertainty tho. For the femme fatale Stasi leader of their primary mecha battalion, she's so cute!

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>>158870070
I hope we will get BiS VN soon so all the non-believers will see how cute she really is!

Did it really take 12 hours for them to even notice this thread? I refuse to believe this.

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>>158847644
Why don't they just nuke the shit out of BETA?

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>>158870427
Are we doing this again? Its been a while.

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>>158870470
all those ideas seem like they could work. why aren't they using them?

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>>158870192

Did someone say cute Beato?

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>>158870470
Why don't they just use smokescreen against the Laser-class BETA?

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>>158870565

>>158865836
Bless you leak Anon, know anything about the backstory on the scene?

>>158870727
nope. but i will do a 10x10roll now and try to unlock the fourth scene. wish me luck. I might upload the scene once i unlocked all of them and if an /a/ thread is up.

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>>158870192
From moeblob to this and back. How can such a dangerous, vicious, and sexy woman be so cute and demure?

>>158870804
Fourth scene is usually the best since it's the one where they put it in. Lise, Iris, Gretel, and Beatrix's first scene all involved the same format. Fifth scene is climax and cuddling.

>>158870389
Just proves that majority of them didnt even read original trilogy.

>>158870883
got her. will post CGs soon.

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>>158865836
What the hell. This is more cute than sexy. Beatrix is for sexy femdom, not nervous cuteness!

>>158870989
Clearly you have some divinity backing you up anon. God speed.

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>>158847644
Here's a Stella https://imgur.com/a/kcVOL

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>>158870943
It's more like we'd resigned ourselves to our fate and weren't looking.

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>>158870999

How could you not want to turn a she-wolf into a squirming little puppy?

Looks like Beatrix shitposters are here now.

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Here it is.

http://imgur.com/a/pCRU9

>>158871316
Well, some guy posted new Beatrix sex scenes, and that's what we're going to talk about. If somebody had posted the new chapter of the alternative manga or a new KimiLuv video, then we'd be talking about that instead. Besides, if we take Beatrix's reaction as canonical, it opens up some interesting paths for character interpretation.

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>>158871502
SF can't even keep characters consistent between scenarios. Take this scene, where Beatrix is a complete step on your balls dom and compare it to the other where it looks like it's her first time sleeping with a man.

Sumika is the best. I want to pat her ahoge.

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>>158871368
>he cums inside
Is Theo going to take responsibility? What about Lise?

Also, for anyone who missed it, here's the start of Iris's scenario:

http://imgur.com/a/ewgL5

>>158871597
Completely unrealistic that somebody could be dominant one time and then be submissive the next.

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>>158871685
Sumika would be the best if Meiya or Yuuko weren't around, but I don't know of many girls who could compete against those two, and Sumika is just a step below.

>>158871597
That scene was Theo's "nightmare"

>>158871814
>Sumika would be the best if Meiya or Yuuko weren't around.

Their relationship will end up probably just like those childhood friends NTR doujins due to Takeru's nature without those 2 moving things.

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>>158871368
I guess this picture has never been more pertinent than now. What is it with GK predicting the future?

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>>158872038
damn you. you just reminded me of how much i miss GK. he never finished pirate beato and asagi beato.

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>>158871685
How about this ahoge?

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>>158871368
>>158865836
If Theo is the one sexing her up, that is going to make this moment really awkward.

>>158871685
She was until i played alternative, since then i can't see her face without having small ptsd attack
six years and i still can't masturbate to doujinshi with aliens or tentacles without remembering the game and having my boner killed

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Reminder

>>158872284
That's a cute ahoge too. Adorable.

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>>158871368
Theo is huge. It must have been quite painful for Beatrix taking Theo's CIWS inside her cockpit.

Haven't been following these threads for a while l, since I really just couldn't give a shit about Total Eclipse or Schwarezesmarken, but did the Altered Fable translation attempt ever go anywhere beyond the airsoft scene?

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>>158872966
She looks better once she grows up a little.

>>158873163
her hair and eyes are the color of my poo.

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>>158873163

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>>158873414

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>>158873465

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>>158873517

>>158871246
>>158871368
Wow, those facial expressions look almost the same.

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>>158873035
Are the steeling ideas from GK now?

>>158874852
This would have been the best version of Beatrix had they cut out the backstory crap and left her as a psycho killer semen demon.

>>158875095
>animeonly
>current year
Really makes you think.

>>158871079
Did you draw that?

>>158875311
Not really. This guy sums up how I feel:

>I preferred the version I heard of initially. Tragic waifus who are bitches on the outside, broken and crying on the inside are a dime a dozen, but how many truly evil, repulsive semen demons are there, especially in a work like Muv-Luv? Anime Beatrix was a fun villain, someone you could really despise and who was terrifying despite her attractiveness. They ruined it by trying to write in some of her backstory though. Cut those bits out, make her motives purely selfish and cynical, and leave the Beatrix who tried to fire on Katia's station, got off on execution and torture, and smirked when she heard the news of Lise's death and you'd have the Beatrix I wanted.

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>>158871368
>>158865836
>>158870070
I'd just like to point out for comparison that this is how Irisdina reacted to Theo:

http://imgur.com/a/9Bea4

She comes off as way more confident and in charger, ironically.

So how good are the Muv-Luv anime? Not as adaptions, but as anime. I don't really care too much about visual novels that will never be translated for me to read.

>>158848415
Shrwaz ruined it

>>158876079
Shwarze brought the discussions back. We'd basically be like /m/ without SM.

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>>158877187
I think the original take on that character archetype was the best.

>>158876013
Pretty bad if you don't have the fan bias going in. They both just fall apart halfway through and are full of QUALITY.

>>158876013
TE had pacing issues and wasted its budget on the first couple of episodes. It also sets up expectations in the first two episodes of being mecha horror before abruptly switching to harem hi-jinks, before swapping over into a political thriller in the last quarter. The first couple of episodes are good, and the last arc involving the RLF is pretty good, but the middle leaves a lot to be desired. TE is also an incomplete story, and obviously serves as more of an advertisement to the VN than a good anime in its own right.

SM has much better direction, script, and pacing but it had even less of a budget. Furthermore, the story actually concludes. The ridiculously evil villains drag things down (though you might like them as the karmic payoff for them is pretty good), and some of the characters make very stupid decisions without any adequate explanations. The characters aren't as memorable or immediately likable as TE's cast either, but then, SM was very plot driven, whereas TE was character driven. Another issue is that the color palette is very dull and flat. Everything just looks washed out. This looks especially bad on the characters, whose designs look like they were drafted around the idea of being very colorful and full of energy in mind, and thus look especially off with the washed out color scheme. At least TE's had a ton of vibrancy and life to its art.

>>158877885
To add, there's also Kimi ga Nozo Ein, and Akane Maniax. KGNE was where the term tsundere came from, so you might owe it to yourself as an anime aficionado to watch it. It's very infuriating though, especially the maliciously stupid main character, and has some NTR in it.

Akane Maniax is crap, and nobody really talks about it. The director of it did go on to direct Schwarzesmarken though.

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>>158871368
>>158865836
Too much Bernhard im Schatten and Liebe, not enough Strafe™.

>>158869629
Context check.

>>158871714
>jpg

THAT'S WRONG! DO IT AGAIN!

>>158879421
There's no context to check. It's exactly what you think it is.

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>>158870619

To all providing the HCGs, start posting on the /m/ board, at least they're not subject to arbitrary purges by anal-retentive sperglords.

>>158878050
Just for clarification, the NTR in KGNE isn't netorare, its netori.

>>158880625
What's the difference?

>>158880762
In netorare the MC's lover is stolen away, in netori the MC is the one doing the stealing or is the one being stolen - in KGNE's case it is the latter.

>>158880886
KGNE spoilers!

To fill in the blanks with KGNE's plot, Haruka and Mitsuki are best friends in high school. Haruka starts dating the MC. A bad event happens. MC starts depending on Mitsuki more and more until they start secretly dating. A lot of drama ensues.

>>158857138

It would be nice to continue the crusade and see where everything ends up-- of particular interest would be seeing how humanity uses the time that was bought. What the political situation is like after the UN scores a real victory. Also, some advancement towards reaching the creators of the BETA and the bigger backstory.

The problem with this kind of development is that the MLA world, by necessity, is defined as a very life or death place, where hope is barely visible, humanity is always on the back-foot, and the BETA are scary because we do not know all that much about them or their origins. Perhaps seeing the BETA weaponized more directly by humanity would also be interesting and could create new plotlines. I don't know. I just think that the prequel stories are really awful and not particularly worth telling. They lack the weight of the Trilogy.

>>158857560
Martyrs could be good.

>>158856977
The memory wipe is something I greatly approve of and while the memories may be gone, the connections are definitely still present. Takeru has absolutely no use for those memories in the world of Extra. It's a silly place with cooking contests where he is a love-love nucleus rather than the causality conductor. His memories would enslave him, burden him, guilt him, and would not give him the gift Sumika wanted him to have-- a carefree High School life where he was free to choose someone other than her, despite her feelings for him.

Takeru proved that, if he really needed to, if push really came to shove, he could be instrumental in saving the world. He earned his reward and harem in a place far removed from bloodshed.

>>158880321
/m/ would just yell at us.

>>158881595
Then you can tell them you wouldn't be there if they didn't insist on having the /a/ threads purged.

Anybody else?

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>>158882928

I'm still here.

>>158882928
What?

>>158882928
What is it?

>>158882981
Feel free to leave.

>>158884186
wtf is pierce-chan

>>158876264
Shwarze also brought all the generals.

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Should I bother with watching Shwarze?

I only got into Muv-Luv with the steam release then went on to read alternative and loved them. While nowhere near as good as the trilogy, the anime for TE was fun when seeing it as anime top gun.
While in comparison SM made me hate almost every moment of the pilot episode, especially the whole little sister character shit, does it get any better /a/?

Beatrix seems to be my type though

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>>158884909
>Beatrix seems to be my type though
Anime Beatrix and VN Beatrix are two totally different people. Even if they roughly do the same things, they have totally different personalities and attitudes about it. Do keep that in mind.

For instances, this is VN Beatrix.

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>>158885210
This is anime Beatrix.

>>158884909
>While in comparison SM made me hate almost every moment of the pilot episode, especially the whole little sister character shit, does it get any better /a/?
Assuming you're talking about Katia, that little sister character loses the spotlight later on and becomes more of a plot device.

>>158885728
>Time of Blessing

>Katia: Weddings are great aren't they~
>Anett: Right~

>Katia: Calling everyone and spreading the joy...
>Well-wishing citizens
>Anett: Well that's a different kind of happiness...

>Anett: What kind wedding do you want, CO?
>Iris: For me-
>Iris: ...no

>Iris: Let's stop,
>Iris: I can only see Beatrix barging in
>Beat: I won't let you be happy
>Katia: Since no one would take her, right...

>>158880321
no. we get delet because of /m/ faggs so i won't post any any new content i get my hands on on there. ever.

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Why do we have two threads?

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>>158887217
Maybe newfags dont know how ML thread used to be created without even using a title in the OP

>>158887217
Some faggots are blind and cant change.

Its 2017 and Meiya is still best girl

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>>158888369
Tfw you will never perform piss / scat play with Meiya
Why live?

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>>158874067
Coma anon was right about everything.

>>158888583
This was awful. Taking advantage of dumb girl who loves you.

>>158888369
>>158888583
Mana-sama > Meiya

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>>158888756
DAMEEEEEEE

>>158886265
Based STALKER.

>>158886265
>>Katia: Since no one would take her, right...
Hopefully they follow up that line in the next 4koma with something.

Also thanks for the translation STALKER.

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Did she deserve it?

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>>158888653

>>158889380
Deserve what?

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>>158889380
Yes

>>158889415
You know. That.

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>>158889415
Deserve to be robbed of a happy end EVEN IN THE FANDISK

YES I AM ANGRY

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Why is she so violent?

>>158889499
That's why karma hit her so hard with a violent deaths.

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>>158889499
Unfulfilled sexual frustration

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>>158889499
Beats me

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>>158889668
>that Yuuko

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>>158882981
Lise should be getting another new card in a few days. Right in time for her birthday

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Luv ya, Marimo!

>>158887217
The other one baits shitposters away. Well most of them.

>>158889430
Its punishment for trying to steal one of ManaMana-sama's shotas.

>>158889768
>wedding dress Lise
Would be a fitting follow up to the Katia card.

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last scene CGs.

http://imgur.com/a/OsxOT

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>>158886265
Beatrix status: burned

Who knew Katia had it in her?

>>158890393
Can you make a full archive of all your CGs?

>>158890393
Was it a dream?

>>158890393
tomboy

>>158890393
Care to post text or vids for future translations?

>>158890411
Let's just hope that the Stasi listening device didn't picked that up.

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>>158890501
(VN) Beatrix wouldn't do shit. Her bark is actually worse than her bite.

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>>158890501
>Stasi

>>158890576
I could just imagine her whining to the other stasi.

>Th-that girl from the West said nobody could love me. This is just like middle school all over again. I just-I just- She doesn't understand. Nobody understands. I miss Jurgen.

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>>158890646
>Meanwhile, at Katia's residence...

>>158890584
>Stop putting ketchup on my tits
That Heinz, what a joker.

>>158890646
>whining to the other stasi.
And losing their fear of her? Naw she'll bottle it up inside and it will join with the other things that corroded her morals away.

>>158890477
don't see the point if we have nobody to translate them. seems like a waste of my time.

There is a thread for for your mobage trash images. Why not use it?

>>158890646
>Beatrix whining when pretty much everyone around her has had it worse than her in one way or another
What a melodramatic cunt.

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>>158890704
He should really be more careful who he pranks.

>>158890750
I could just imagine the normal, well adjusted Werewolf having a shit time of it all. Everyone else would go to him/her to whine about their shitty lives.

Why do you shitsmarken fags need two threads to shit on here?

>>158890730
STALKER is around, if he is up to it he could translate it or gives us a summary of their conversation.

>>158890737
It makes the cancer believe it has a right to exist because """it""" delivers OC.

>>158890818
didn't he say he won't translate anything beato related?

>>158890840
he just translated that 4koma so you tell me mr stupidyhead

>>158871714
Wow nice image (shower).
Where is the rest anon? For my personal culture of course.

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>>158890784
He had some pretty good death CGs. If only they'd given Beatrix some satisfying CGs to go along with her demises.

>>158890880
Ignore this (I'm retarded).
Thanks anon.

>>158890868
but that's because there are other girls involved and they are shit talking Beato mr stupidyhead.

>>158882981
Cute imouto.

>>158890891
>satisfying CGs
Maybe thats was their reasoning, make her deaths unsatifying to take the triumph put of her killing. Its a shitty method of making the reader not enjoy her death if one hated her though.

>>158890840
Just post them so we can at the very least machine translate them. Another japreader is bound to appear sooner or later.

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>>158890646
>implying the shit Beatrix hears on a daily basis from her colleagues or says about herself isn't way worse than anything an idealistic, hopeful 15 year old girl from the west might say

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>>158891056
Her death in the anime was pretty satisfying though. Also, the LN wasn't afraid to say that Theo stabbed her in the tit after she'd been immobilized.

>>158891207
They went all in with Beatrix as a hatesink in the anime and its doubtful the LN was written with Beatrix's final purpose and backstory all fleshed out, so its irrelevant. Its just a change to the original message of the scene. And they can still change it back, so to speak, if the add CGs in the rerelease.

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>>158889934
I'd say they are hard pressed to top that last Lise card given how top tier the scenario was but a wedding dress would do it.

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Its a shame I have no interest to participate in this mobage/SM discussion, so I might as well leave again. It was fun old times thread for a while I guess.

>>158891314
Have a nice day then, anon.

>>158891285
No, from the LN portions, she makes a lot of references to her "oath to that person," so it was there, just not obvious. I think they made Beatrix's death like that to make the read feel even more mixed about it. Here you have a woman who's done absolutely horrible things, even forcing a battle in a heavily populated area, but by the end she can't fight back and lies trapped in her cockpit, yet the hero still kills her in a brutal manner.

Course, the LN used the anime's modified version of events, partially because it's cooler and more action packed, and partially because VN Beatrix is way more sympathetic and grey. She shows regret, and most of the time, it's her doing what is "good" rather than expedient that screws her over. She's a villain whose innate goodness rising to the top is her downfall, rather than most villains (including the anime's take), where it's their lack of good that does them in. She's a tragic character, and having Theo approach her downed TSF, pull out his knife, and stab it into her cockpit would have made people flat out hate him instead. Just look at how many people were upset at him about Lise, and Theo had Heim and Suzy's gun to the back of the head on that one.

>>158890880

Don't have it (yet). Would a Matika/Yuuya scene be fine instead?

http://imgur.com/a/571R3

>>158891056

This is the first scene. If it gets TLed i will upload more.
https://sendvid.com/vavb3733

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Just finished MLA week ago. I feel bad for missing all those threads few years ago.

Probably shouldn't have opened the spoiler images back then

>>158884412
>he's a newfag in maburabu threads

I liked Muv Luv when it was a high school romance about playing lacrosse. I didn't like Muv Luv when it was boring and about giant robots and shooting giant bug alien things.

>>158891788

Not gonna translate the whole thing because that is tedious. First scene is:

>俺はアイリスディーナを , カテイアを, そして第666戦術機中隊の仲間を裏切った. 全ては義妹リィズ ・ホーエンシュタイン.

I betrayed Irisdina, Katia, and the 666th for my sister in law, Lise Hohenstein.

Next frame is about his adoptions by the Hohensteins and his reoccuring nightmares of the night Axmann caught them at the border:

>実の親を早くに失い,養父母をあの時に矢い
I lost my family at a young age and was taken in by my adoptive parents

We all know the rest of the story, so I'm not going to bother.

Theo wakes up, shouting Lise. The Stasi dorms are still strange to him.
>跳ね起きた俺は辺りを見渡した. そこに 違和感を持つてしまうのは, ここが見慣れた基地の私室ではなく国家保安省内にあてがわれた部屋だからだ

He then ruminates about how when he sleeps, he's in a nightmare, when he's awake, he's in a nightmare, it just never ends for him. He's depressed and losing sleep.
>起きても悪夢,寝ても悪夢......か......

He's depressed because he's thrown his old life, everything away for his sister
>何もかも捨てて国家保安省に来たのは全てリイズ てリイズのため

But Lise fell into the hands of Axmann
>それなのにリィズはアクスマンの手に落ちた...

He's been in the stasi for a while now and hasn't seen Lise. No one to protect, no one to protect him.
>そして,俺は守るベき者の居ない国家保安省という籠の中で鬱々として日々を週ごしてるだけ......

It's awful
>...最悪だ...

Theo feels super depressed, but still carries on (maybe Lise is dead then, he wasn't this depressed in the VN):
>この後......俺はまんじリともすることが出来ぬままに,夜明け右迎えるのだった.

Whomever he fights for, whether the stasi or the NVA, his job is always the same, piloting TSFs, even if the opponents change.
>武装警察軍であろうが国家人民軍であろうが衛
>士の仕事はたった一つ一一戦術機で戦うことだ.
>しかし, 戦う相手が違う.

>AH戦......
AH war....

Fighting other humans is far more stressful/traumatic than the BETA.
>同じ人間銃を向ける対人戦闘は神経を削る. BETAとの戦いこはないス卜レスだ.

When Theo gets back from a job, he throws himself on his bed in his assigned room utterly exhausted.
>俺はあてがわれた部屋に戻ると疲れ果てた体をベツドの上に投げ出した.

Seems his body wants to sleep even if his mind can't.
>疲れ果てた体が眠ることを望んでいるようだ.

>>158894083
Thank you for translating anon.

>>158894083
scene 1 https://sendvid.com/vavb3733
scene 2 https://sendvid.com/txgws6o0
scene 3 http://sendvid.com/24pwtgh8
scene 4 http://sendvid.com/ibu7i9zb
scene 5 http://sendvid.com/31p0n7py

even thou i said in the other thread i won't.

>>158886414
Why not? It would be poetic justice: fill their threads with material they utterly refuse to tolerate because they won't let us do it here.

>>158888583
That would actually be interesting if she could do it standing up.

>>158889428
>.....round~ two~!

Of what?

>>158895105
h-hand holding of course.

>>158894083
>それなのにリィズはアクスマンの手に落ちた...
>そして,俺は守るベき者の居ない国家保安省という籠の中で鬱々として日々を週ごしてるだけ......

He says Lise is captured by Axmann and is depressed because he can't protect her, if there was a difference in the plot and she was actually dead he would have said so. Also a nip on twitter who got the card said its supposed to take place within the Lise route.

>>158895105
Adult activities

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Why didn't Takeru fly when escorting Yuuhi?

>>158894083
He gives into his body's desire for sleep.
>体の欲求に身を任せ,俺はそのまま目を閉じた

It's always a deep sleep, but the dreams are the worst.
>いつもよリかは深い眠リ,しかし,夢見は最悪

He knows it's a dream while having it, but can't wake up or do anything to effect it nonetheless (kinda like having your worst memories on replay in your head).
>また,あの夢......悪夢だと思うのに目を覚ますことも出来やししないし,夢の中ですら結果を変えることも出来ない

Somebody starts calling him. Eberbach. 2LT Eberbach. 2LT Theodore Eberbach...
>エーベルバッハ少尉......少尉......テオドールエーベルバッハ少尉

Next couple of slides are about him waking up slowly and how he feels. He calls out for Lise. He then awakens and sees Beatrix and reacts like you'd expect him too.

[Beatrix] (Sarcasm) Having a pretty good dream? I don't like nightmares (or men who get nightmares) either, but calling me another woman's name is such a turnoff.
>ずいぶんと良い夢を見てたようね? うなされる男も嫌いではないけど,別の女の名前を呼を呼ばれろと興ざめね

[Theo]
>なにをしいる?
What are you doing?

My head feels strange, and my body is dull. I couldn't even raise my arms to drive away this (?dream) woman.
>頭は妙にえている.しかし,体の動きが鈍い. 寝がる披女を追い払うどころか,腕を上げることすら億劫なほど

[Beatrix]
Uhuhu...I wanted to talk to you, so I gave you a dose.
>ふふ...ゆつくリ話がしたいから一服盛らせて貰ったわ.

(Pretty sketchy, but she says something about depriving certain freedoms, but not taking away the power to think, so not to worry)
>休の自由は奪うけど, 思考力を奪ったリはしないから安心して.

[Theo]
What are we going to be talking about?
>なんの話をする気だ?

[Beatrix]
Straight to the point...I want to keep you a little closer to my side.
>単刀直入に言えば...あなたをもう少し私の側に近づけておきたいのよ

END

>>158895325
>>158895006
テ才ドール
....早く取り返して貰いたいものだな

ベアトリクス
もちろん, その努力はしているわ.
あなたがどう思っているかは知らないけど, 私は彼女を高く評価してるわ. あなたの妹であることを抜きにしても, 有用な人材だと思うほどよ

Yep Lise confirmed alive. Theo admits the only reason he's there is for her and intends to rescue her as soon as possible. Beatrix agrees because Hohenstein is a useful asset to her.

>>158895325
Yeah.

[Bea]
私にとつて最悪の展開つて何か解るかしら?

[Theo]
俺とリイズが逃げ出し,アイリスデイーナナの元に戻ること

Also, here's Theo admitting to Beatrix what his plan was (Run away with Lise and join up with Irisdina).

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>>158891299

Dubs of truth.

>new Lise will come, I'm sure of it

>>158889768

>oniichan cuddles incoming

>>158895006
>that part where she starts sliding her vagina/clit from Theo' balls up his shaft to the tip and back down again while deeply kissing him

>そうとだけ言うと彼女はわかに腰を浮かして, 俺のペ二スを彼女の濡れた部分にゆっくりと押し立てた.

So hot.

>>158896558
>He knows it's a dream while having it, but can't wake up or do anything to effect it nonetheless (kinda like having your worst memories on replay in your head).
>Somebody starts calling him. Eberbach. 2LT Eberbach. 2LT Theodore Eberbach...
>Next couple of slides are about him waking up slowly and how he feels. He calls out for Lise. He then awakens and sees Beatrix and reacts like you'd expect him too.
Jesus Christ age, vague shit like this is the worst you coud have done.
>Uhuhu...I wanted to talk to you, so I gave you a dose.
Last time he was restrained, now he's drugged. Seems his dream wasn't that far off.

>>158899722
Despite the CGs, the scene is more like sexual combat between the two of them that somewhat parallels their final battle. They even use similar lines. Theo shouts out things like;

>なんでも.....ないっ
>It's...NOTHING

While they both pant and breathlessly taunt each other.

Beatrix wins the first round:
俺はついに絶絶頂を迎え,ベアトリクスの中に熱い精液を注ぎ込んだ

But Theo turns it around. To get back at this woman, he deceives her with a technique, gains the upper hand, and thrusts deeply into her (not tauntingly or playfully like Beatrix was doing earlier) but as if he's trying to stab her and his penis is a knife, which leads to Beatrix screaming and climaxing:

俺がベアトリクスの中に出した瞬間, 彼女もひときわ大きな声を出し絶頂を迎えた

>>158901189
Was Beatrix a virgin in this scenario?

>>158903010
Of course.

>>158904529
>Beatrix thinks that banging her subordinate is a good idea
>Beatrix thinks that giving her virginity to a guy who hates her guts is good idea and thinks it will make him more loyal
She's definitely socially retarded then. Also,

>age thought that this scenario was a good idea
They're really inconsistent when writing Beatrix and are surprised when her stories and goods don't sell.

>>158904840
Theo isn't her subordinate and virginity isn't a big deal unless you make it a big deal.

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>>158903010
Girls in SF tend not to bleed, even when they should. There's implications for and against though. For instances, Theo brings up Iris, which results in Beatrix going on a tangent about their rivalry, which is then followed by Beatrix getting a strange glint and asking Theo if he's popped Iris's cherry yet. She says that she has one over Iris now, and at the very end, again asked (before her final line, which is that she'll have to wink winkpunishhint hint Theo if all their copulation makes her wake up late the next day):

[Beatrix]
>大したことしゃない...アイリスデイ一ナと汰寝たのか?

>うふふ...なんでもないむ...それじゃ,おやすみなさい.寝過ごししたう懲罰は受けて貸うわよ

Theo is just happy to be rid of the troublesome, if sexy woman and have his room back to himself.

[Theo]
>え終えたベアトリクスはさつさと俺の部屋を後にした.

>彼女の言葉の意味を図りかねていいる俺だけを残して

>>158905222
Girls do't always bleed during their first time. In fact, it's more uncommon for them to than not.

>>158905219
>Theo isn't her subordinate
He literally is here though and she calls him her subordinate in the scenario.

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>>158904840
>>158905222

She's adorkable. What would TheoxBeato married life be like, on a day to day basis?

>>158905219
>a member of the werewolves
>not Beatrix's subordinate

>virginity isn't a big deal unless you make it a big deal
It was her and Jürgen who wanted to wait until marrige don't blame me, if age made it seem like a big deal to her.

>>158905222
>Girls in SF tend not to bleed, even when they should. There's implications for and against though.
So in short. Its not explicitly stated?

>>158905564
>So in short. Its not explicitly stated?
Exactly.

>>158905605
>Exactly.
Age keeping their options open perhaps?

>>158905564
>It was her and Jürgen who wanted to wait until marrige don't blame me, if age made it seem like a big deal to her.
No, Beatrix was the one who wanted to fuck him badly. Jurgen want to put his sword in Beatrix's sheath, but he's a good Christian and all that, and then there's Abel to consider, who'd destroy Jurgen and Iris if he fount out his daughter had Bernhard seed in her, and Axmann, and being away from home for years on end, and the planned coup, and just a ton of shit in the way.

>>158905793
And yet we are supposed to believe that she'd jump on Theo's dick at the first time she gets, even if drugs are necessary, but wouldn't do the same to/for Jürgen. Nah, its inconsistent writing alright.

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Beatrix bunny when?

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>>158895725
That's actually a good question Mr. Frodo.

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>>158904840
>>Beatrix thinks that banging her subordinate is a good idea
>>Beatrix thinks that giving her virginity to a guy who hates her guts is good idea and thinks it will make him more loyal

Yeah its bizarre, she admits to doing it to make him more loyal to her personally because she knows Lise is the only reason Theo is sticking around, and decides to do it by paralyzing him with a drug so he can't properly resist, talks about how Axmann might end up killing Lise with torture(which ends up making Theo feel even worse about the whole situation) which is why she'll need another incentive to maintain Theo's loyalty and thinks this is the way to go about it.

And all the while she's pulling that crap pic related is happening at that very moment. More torture from Axmann, brainwashing drugs, and by what the Martyrs CGs implied probably getting raped again too. She also explicitly knows what happened to Lise in her past and how devoted she is to Theo yet figures its cool to forcibly have sex with the guy at this particular time anyway. After talking about how much Lise has helped her out too thats some serious lack of respect for the girl's loyalty, sacrifice, and continued suffering.

And by the end of the scene she ends up not really changing his mind about anything anyway and we all know how the route continues from there with Theo helping Iris kill her and then running off to find Lise.

The whole things kind of silly and really doesn't do Beatrix's characterization any favors. Its good for the CGs and if you wanna see Beatrix having sex but the scenario itself just makes her come across terribly. Nothing about Beatrix's actual character made me believe she would do that though, more like out of character hentai logic.

>>158906484
Though TE probably answered this with Stella needing a proper runaway for softer take-off with injured Yui. They still feel a bit inconsistent with the flight abilities of TSFs.

Or did I just miss them discussing the fuel cost of flying to the sea?

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>>158907373
>The whole things kind of silly and really doesn't do Beatrix's characterization any favors. Its good for the CGs and if you wanna see Beatrix having sex but the scenario itself just makes her come across terribly.

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Irisdina, Cryska, Inia and Yui are my waifus. I would also Stella and Beatrix.

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>>158907683
>multiple waifus

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>>158907790
You're going to get loved, taken care of and married to me Cryska.

>>158907373
I tend to think of SF as a parallel world where Theo fucks all the girls, and is open about it, yet no one gives a fuck because he's that awesome.

>>158906475
Why does the hidden knife make this so much hotter? Why does the idea of having a sweaty knife fight with bunny Beatrix make me so hard, even if she'd almost certainly penetrate me?

>>158907373
The dynamic between Beatrix and Theo has always been weird. There's a ton of sexual tension between the two of them, and some of their fight scenes have a lot of innuendo in them. Beatrix is at her most sexual in her final fight, with descriptions of her large breasts being jostled, her panting, husky voice, and red lips quirking in a sensual yet beastly grin.

「さすが、だな」
　アイリスディーナが目をかけた理由がよく分かる。
　だからこそ、テオドールに些かの手心を加えるつもりもない。全力で叩きのめし──勝利を手にし、東ドイツに再び国家保安省シユタージを復活させる。そして、あの日の誓いを果たしてアイリスディーナ・ベルンハルトに見せ付けてやらねばならない。
　灼やけ付つくような緊張感がベアトリクスの全身を襲う。


>"Just as expected"

>I understand why he is in Irisdina's eyes.

>That's why I'm focusing on Theodor. With full effort, we will achieve victory - and reinstate the Ministry of State Security again in East Germany. And I must do this to fulfill my oath and show to Irisdina Bernhardt [that I am right].

>A thick, sticky, burning sensation of tension hits Beatrix's whole body.


　もつれながらマンションの壁に２機が叩き付けられる。網膜には機体各所が大破したことを示すウィンドと警告音。蹴り飛ばそうとするが機体が反応しない。
『────！』

外部マイクが衛士の獅し子し吼くを拾う。 そして自身の胸元に迫る短刀──ベアトリクスはそれを満足気に見つめた。


>The tangle of the two machines fly down to the wall of the apartment. Her retina display and the warning sirens indicating that various parts of the aircraft were destroyed. She tried to kick it [back into the air], but the aircraft is dead.
"────! "

>Her microphone picks up the lion's roar of the male eji. And as his dagger entered her breast - Beatrix had a look of satisfaction.

So is it in character for them to have sex? Not really. Beatrix is too loyal to Jurgen's memory, and Theo has Iris/Katia/Lise.

Do they subconsciously want to sexually fuck the other to death? Definitely.

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What would these two be like if they escaped to the West the first time?

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>>158911350
Genki

>>158907373
If they really want Beatrix and Theo boinking, they need to write around it better. If certain circumstances align, I could see Theo fucking Beatrix like a savage animal, but dropping it into Lise's route is just bad form.

>>158906475
What a scary smile.

>>158911642

How about in a timeline where Lise dies, and Beatrix tries to comfort him, but ends up showing her own inner dorkiness?

Also prelude to secret Beato route.

>>158912302
Yeah, that'd work better. He didn't backstab Beatrix, and because of that, they get to Lise too late. She's already dead. Having nothing else, and all his comrades dead, Theo is aimless and is just there with the Werewolves. Que Beatrix's scene with Theo. The lines of her trying to keep him from abandoning her would have worked better too.

But I guess they wanted to build up distaste or hate with Beatrix. The whole first set is just basically Theo saying how much he loves and misses Lise, and then suddenly, surprise NTR rape. I seriously don't know what they're trying to do with Beatrix, or what we're supposed to feel. Most sensual and innuendo heavy girl in the cast, but the MC apparently doesn't lust for her and finds her repulsive, even as every single description about her is how she's so incredibly irresistible, how her forceful kisses seem like they breath life into you, and her virgin pussy is so much better than anything he's ever experienced before. Sympathetic backstory that isn't really brought up. And scenarios written to undercut her at the same time as scenarios are written to make her more likable. Then artwork that seems to depict her as being cute and nervous, but is instead taunting and cruelty.

>>158912648
>and her virgin pussy is so much better than anything he's ever experienced before
To be fair that seems to be a recurring statement in SF, if he actually said that in that scene.

Lise: お兄ちゃん .... わ, わたしの中 ... ちゃんと, 気持ちいい ... ?
>Onii-chan… n, inside of me … does it feel good…?

Theo: ああ, ああっ... 当たり前だっ ... 悪いな, とめられなぞっ... リィズっ
>Aa, aahn … of course … sorry, I can’t stop thrusting… Lise

Theo: 気持ちいい... 最高に決まってるじゃないかっ ... ! お前は, 俺が一番する妹なんだからっ ... !
>Feels so good…. you’re the best … ! You are, my little sister is the best … !

>>158904840
>They're really inconsistent when writing Beatrix and are surprised when her stories and goods don't sell.
Says who, you? The only consistent thing that doesn't sell is Katia.

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>>158912648

How adorably dorky would Beato be in that kind of ending?

>>158914300
Beatrix wants another round with Theo since the night is still young. She starts taking off the last of their clothes.

Theo says that despite being a known stasi leader, she was still famous/praised throughout the DDR for being such a "breathtaking beauty."

Seeing him drink in the sight, she covers Theo's eyes and says that its embarrassing to get started at.

Theo then calls her evil.

Then he feels Beatrix straddling his waist, rubbing her soft thighs against his hard waste. Beatrix then uncovers his eyes.

Theo then asks her what sort of relationship she had with Iris, since she seems so obsessed about her.

Beatrix kinda dodges the question, and gives him a ridiculous answer about how they were friends but the relationship became an eyesore because one was always better than the other.

She sees Theo's expression and asks him if he believes that.

He give a noncommittal "I don't know"
[Beatrix]
夜は長いわ......もう少し楽しみましょう


そう言うと彼女は俺の上かういったたん下り,最後に残っていた下着を脱ぎ捨てた
ー糸まとわぬ姿になったベアトリクスに俺は思わず目を奪われた
窓の外から差し込む外灯の明かリに照らし出された彼女は国家保安省の女だと解つていても, 息を呑むほどの美しさをたたえていた

[Beatrix]
あまりじろじろ見うれるとさすがに恥ずかしいわね

[Theo]
......悪かつたな

そして,再びベアトリクスが俺の腰の上に跨がつた

[Theo]
あんたとアイリスディーナとはどういう閲係なんだ?
すいぶんとこだわってるみたいだが

[Beatrix]
士官学校時代からの古い友人.......そわだけの関係よ.
ただ,いつも二三歩先を歩てたら目障りだっただよ.......

[Theo]
えっ

[Beatrix]
そう言えば信じる?

[Theo]
.......さあな.......

>>158915608

I meant in a secret Beato happy ending.

>>158907373
ﾍﾞｱﾄﾘｸｽはイイ女
少なくとも隻影のベルンハルトの頃は
まだ、完結してないけど、なんとなかくどうしてああなったのかはわかるしね
そこまで、ふまえればｼｭｳﾞｧﾙﾂｪｽﾏｰｹﾝも許される！

>>158919433
定期的に隻影のベルンハルトの続きまだかなー…って気になって検索してみるけど、まだ続報ないなー…気長に待つけど。

You guys might like this. It's a compendium of every SF 4koma ever:

https://twitter.com/i/moments/789135277604286465

>>158919819
Guardbro maniax when?

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>>158919433
>>158919602

>>158905222
I don't believe you.

>>158922386
Why?

>>158885728

>Katia's people are all dogs

Poetry.

>dat Beato

I would take her. In an instant.

>>158925114
>I would take her. In an instant.

But no one could love her, right...

>>158925865

>1983
>believing the retarded Pomeranian's pro-BETA propaganda

laughingmoderates.jpg

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>>158925865
>But no one could love her, right...
No belly rubs for you today Katia.

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>>158849526
>Sumika
>sexy

>>158906475
What's the knife for?

>>158926299
Keeping stabby redheads away.

>>158925955
>Pomeranian's

?

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>>158926885

>not knowing the truth about the Wessie scourge

Look closely at the dog's collar.

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Tama is my waifu!

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>>158927530

Same. I am surprised she doesn't get more love.

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>>158927561
Because I took all the love.

Everyone knows- used to know.

That Tama is my waifu.

>>158919433
>>158919602
Quoting jap BiSfags isn't going to make the SF scenario more palatable, only less so.

>>158927530
Ohayo Pierce-kun.

>>158927530
>>158927561
If Meiya didnt exist, I would've picked Tama.

I only played the original trilogy, am I missing out on much by not watching or reading anything else?

I want to share some twizzlers with Sumika.

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>>158927694
Ohayou anon-kun.

Still waiting patiently on those kickstarter rewards.

>>158927726
>I only played the original trilogy, am I missing out on much by not watching or reading anything else?
That's a matter of opinion. You are missing quite a lot of stories and potential fun, but nothing ever comes close to the trilogy, character and storytelling wise, and some of them shit on its themes.

Considering the popularity of this series, I'm still surprised that the original trilogy has yet to get another anime adaptation. It doesn't seem too hard to adapt given they keep some of Takeru's thoughts intact.

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>>158927726
Read at least Altered Fable since its fun.

>>158928037

>dedicate an entire episode for 1 of Yuuko's explanation

I actually have no idea why they haven't yet.

>>158928161
Extra and Unlimited seem pretty easy to adapt. Extra could have two final episodes, and Unlimited could have one. Alternative is where things get pretty excessive. Hasn't age expressed interest in an anime adaptation of the original trilogy?

>>158927476
Looks more like a Shiba Inu.

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It's taking me a long time to finish this vn before alternative arrives.
Is Kasumi = Sumika?

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>>158928609
Because that's fanart.

>>158928609
Maybe.

>>158928521

Some draw it differently, but there's a bunch of art (some of it official) where Katia is portrayed as a dog or with doglike characteristics, such as >>158885728.

Hence the retarded Pomeranian thing, since it's a dog breed from Germany.

Does this scenario has whole body naked CG?
https://imgur.com/a/ewgL5

>>158929438
>>158930951
No one knows yet.

>>158929438
>>158930951
>that look of utter defeat
Delicious

>>158932671
Sagiri did nothing wrong

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>>158932671

>>158928650

It helps that Pomeranians are the same color as Katia and Pomerania is a region that Katia could reasonably be from as an East German.

>>158936815
>sadistic cunts
>best anything

>>158936883
Yuuko's not sadistic, just Machiavellian.

>>158921845
Nukes are underrated in muv luv.

>>158940693
Not when they can be easily intercepted by your target.

>>158936883
Beatrix is the only one who is a sadist. Yuuko teases, but she never goes out of her way to actually hurt others unless the sacrifice is necessary or take delight in it.

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>>158915608
Meanwhile, at rebel HQ.

Didn't see the nipple, I swear.

>>158944166
Torpedo tubes are flooded, Captain!

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>>158905222
So if Beatrix hadn't drugged Theo, would Theo have resisted? Would he have tried to throw her off or beat her up? Or would he have grabbed her, twisted it around and been the one dominating her? How would that scene have played out instead?

He does say that she's one of the most lusted for or beautiful women in the DDR despite being a stasi officer, and go into detail about all her features like her soft breasts, erotic voice, and amazing thighs, so he might be attracted to her. Beatrix might have only drugged him to to be in a position of power over him (stripped of everything, in that moment she'd just be woman in the presence of a stronger man).

>>158848415
Good shit

Sumika best girl.

>>158946158
>in a position of power over him (stripped of everything, in that moment she'd just be woman in the presence of a stronger man

?

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Would you enjoy being oppressed by these two organs of state power milking you dry?

>>158951150
I'm saying that if the sexual encounter had not been with drugs, she really wouldn't have any control or power over Theo once it really picked up. Status and soft power don't count for shit when the other person has his penis in you.

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>>158951325
What is this expression trying to convey?

>>158943879
>but she never goes out of her way to actually hurt others
Running over people with her car for shits and giggles does count as that though.
>unless the sacrifice is necessary or take delight in it.
Applies for VN Beatrix and arguably LN Beatrix.