How come there aren't any iconic villains in anime and manga

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If you want edgy, go watch shows from 80's.
If you want some morally ambigous shit, 90's.
In the end moe won.

>>158816761
What do you predict the next decade or so will be about?

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>>158816817
more moe, hopefully

>>158816666
You literally posted one.

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>>158816666
But Satan, you just posted the most iconic villain of 2017

>>158816666
Kyubey counts, at least.
And nice quads.

>>158816761
No, that means it's next for the chopping block.
>>158816817
Vivid Strike says edge moe.

I was about to contradict you, but thinking about it, I really can't think of any good, fun antagonists from the 2010's. The ones we do have are weaksauce LN walking infodumps that show up in the last 2 episodes.

>>158816666
Shogo Makishima and Squaler are pretty iconic

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>>158816666
Otakus care about moe & harems, rather than meaningful plot. Main-stream anime was, is, and forever will be asinine Shōnenshit.
The market is geared towards the demand.

Q.E.D.

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>accelator

>>158816666
You can only measure how 'iconic' something is a good time after it is out. Anything may look iconic when it comes out, but is later forgotten. So you'll only be able to say what is iconic about this decade during the next decade or so.

>>158817135
2000's.

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>>158816666
There is one right now.

>>158817155

>>158817264
>>>/reddit9k/

>>158817286
my feels predate you ;_;

>>158816813
Leave.

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>>158816666
We had this guy last year.

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Wrong.

>>158818773
2000s

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>>158818910
FUCK WHY AM I SO OLD

>>158818941
Even Homura was already 6 years ago.

Most of the villains in the very notable shows seem to be more environmental. The world, or society, or zombies. Probably a reflection of the nebulous nature of most modern problems. There's not really any individual who could be killed or defeated to make the world a better place, and even our diseases have less singular ability to cure than when it was just bacteria or viruses

There's too much over saturation of mostly short running anime to get a Joker or Darth Vader tier villain.

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>>158816666
Devilish.

>>158816950
QB isnt a vilian retard

And anime hasn't had any iconic vilains since DBZ

>>158819480
Light was pretty iconic.

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>>158816666
>there aren't any iconic villains in anime and manga in this dec-
Try again sweetie

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>>158816666
wat

>>158819554
who?

Because anime and manga or most medium in general is now a great big shitshow of idolizing females. I mean how many anime where you see non macocistic anime girls get beaten up senselessly with various bruises on their body? Less than one. Fuck these modern faggots trying to idolize the shitty race of breeding machines who are only good for such things. Call me /r9k/ I don't give a fuck.

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>>158819756
>idolizing females
>a modern thing
you need to go back.

>>158819873
Yeah, I'm sure CGDCT and purityfagging was a thing in the Greek era.

>>158819756
Have you seen a certain magical index?
https://youtu.be/k7NhP0k2iIs

>>158819966
Are you being sarcastic? Purityfags are literally one of the oldest groups in existence

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>implying

>>158816813
Ueno was based but in manga.

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>>158816666
>How come there aren't any iconic villains
>

If I wasn't on my phone, I'd be posting Junko.

>>158816666
>Who is Kyubey
>Who is Makishima
>Who is Nui Harime

We don't get any memorable villains anymore. Go watch/read stuff from the 80s or 90s.

>>158819756
Freezing

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>>158816666
>implying

Remember to report and ignore thinly veiled spoonfeeding threads.

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This is the greatest villain manga has seen, at least this decade.

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>implying

>>158822093
dumb phoneposter

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>>158816666
?

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OP is absolutly correct.

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>>158816666
There's a certain redhead that is the protagonist and the main villain of the show. Her devilish deeds have a certain iconic value.

>>158816666
>implying Squealer isn't iconic
>implying OP isn't fishing for recs

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>>158816666
>>158824042
Squealer is not a villain

>>158816666
>Madara
>The Coolest guy "aka /a/'s dream"

>>158819480
>>158824979
Don't be obtuse, villain obviously means antagonist in this context

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You can't really say whether or a character is iconic this early

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Nice get, but you are wrong.

>>158825360
top 10 anime fights of all time material right here

>>158825556
>off by one
Killing my self

>>158825360
The scene unironically was the greatest thing I have seen this decade, you name it, Tatami Galaxy, Katanagatari, Mejuca, nothing was as good as KF last episode.

>>158822814
not a villain cause no one liked those fags anyway

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given his screen time

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Bakemono puts a lot of effort into it's villains only to kill them off right away if they're existence makes the story to hard to continue unless they're gone or stop being a villain.

Nisioisin makes could villains in general but gives them absolutely zero lasting power.

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>>158816666
He had a good reason to be evil, had a good plan, everything went according to keikaku, was only defeated by the power of bullshit plot armor.
I think he's going to survive the test of time. Then again dragon ball is popular so with that brand alone he won't be forgotten.

There is also full copypasta Uchiha Madara but I didn't watch that far so I don't know how he works as a villain.

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>>158826492
>implying
Kumagawa is one of the greatest villains ever and he stays for the whole time

>>158826624
>He had a good reason to be evil, had a good plan, everything went according to keikaku, was only defeated by the power of bullshit plot armor.

The only correct thing in that post is that he was beaten by bullshit.

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She is basically the mascot of the franchise at this point

>>158828618
her design is way to generic, it's on purpose but that doesn't change the fact.

>>158818773
>>158818910
and gay

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>>158818773
Antispiral is so fucking good.

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Homura and Kyubey

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you can't even post this guy without a thread hitting bump limit

>>158828618
Calling a character from a show that is still airing "iconic" is going way too far.

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>>158829915
>Villain

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we forgot about him but he was a big deal for like a year or two

>>158818773
He isn't even a real character, he is a plot device so the MC can look like big heroes.

>>158816666
Is no one gonna point out how the deboru actually got a bunch of 6's?

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>>158816666
You just posted one.

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more monster than villain I guess but he was the face of the opposing force in the show everywhere you looked

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>>158816666
Soon to be villain of the decade.

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>>158829993
>satania does something moderately evil for once
>no one notices

Seems fitting desu

>>158816666
Japanese Truck seems to be on a roll this decade.

>>158826785

The whole point of Kumagawa is that he isn't really a villain.

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>>158822880
How the fuck is he a villain though? More like a antihero with a tortured soul than any villain.

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Maybe not as iconic as he should have been, but still pretty baller.

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We all know how much /a/ loves this villain right?

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I only have two because type-moon hasn't made any other villains this decade

>>158830377
yuno it

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Once the anime adaptation of Zero airs the memes will converge and he will reach true iconic status

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Villain Mastermind

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godlike waifufag was pretty good until he went out like a bitch in the end

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>>158816666
>forgetting best mom.

What are you doing /a/?

>>158819756
This nigga is doomed.

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Guy on the right is the greatest anime villain of the 2010s, you know why? He fell from grace and became a tragic hero, devouring his own friend in order to attain a faustian mindset that would launch him into worldwide fame. He rampaged and destroyed temples in order to prove the nihilistic and anarchistic point of view of his mindset. Sacrificing his family, time, and reputation in order to prevail in his ambition of destroying all the change everything. And he got away with it.

Vark Vikernes is my favorite anime character.

https://twitter.com/wreckinrod/status/433848859144359936

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>>158825245
Bad example. Nui was minor, brainwashed and nuts.

Their Momma was a genuine cunt.

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Villains that plan to take over your heart!

>>158830737
thread over

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this dude was a villain or something right?

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>>158819966
There were no waifufags in Gr-

>>158826624
Zamasu is probably one of my favourite Dragon Ball Villans.
I loved his smugness and romance.

A nice change from
>bahahhaa I am ebul and will do ebul things
or
>I am insane muahahaha
Zamasu was just getting rid of some lice.

>>158830854
He got pretty insane by the end of the arc

>>158830841
Could you imagine a 1000 years people are digging around in forgotten parts of th net and they see fan art from this era as we see Greek art.

Shit like Sonichu data being sold for millions and hung in the louvre.

>>158830920
He literally falling apart.
Bio Broly Zamasu was dumb, I love his fusion form of himself and Black.

>>158830932
>Shit like Sonichu data being sold for millions and hung in the louvre.

sonichu artifacts already go for thousands of dollars on ebay

>>158830988
The Totem was never shipped. The dude got his money back.

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>>158830958
>Trump
>Villain
Go back to r/politics

>>158830958
>>158831090
>Love reading Fantasy novels all my life
>Use it as a form of escaping the dull real world
>Local Author from my country writes cool fantasy books set in Ireland
>Been reading them since I was 12
>Finished up the series a few years ago but recently released a new book set five years after
>The American president in the book is a exaggerated Donald Trump character and is being set up as a minor villain since he used sorcerer to cheat his way into the white house and do what he wants.
Fuck man I just wanted to read about skeleton adventures and magic, I don't need real live following me there

>>158830737
Only good post in this thread

>>158825360
Fuck, I miss Kemono Friends

>>158817097
How about Seinen and Shoujo

>>158830721
Mommy wasn't that endearing, just a rapey cunt. Nui fucked with the story and characters so many times.

>>158816666
Because kouta hirano is a lazy faggot

>>158831262
I havent finished Ressurection yet but i really felt that what you mentioned and the Special Snowflake guy/girl felt really out of place.
The original series was definitely better
It also doesnt help that all the best characters are dead

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>>158830958
nice try villlain

>>158830799
Her

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even if my mind forgets, my dick will remember

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>>158830958
>America
>Not China

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His design was cool

>>158833656
i guess he is iconic since he single handedly trainwrecked the show

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you have the shortest attention span as all get out /a/

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She was totally a villain.

>>158833703
>trainwrecked
heh

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>>158833744
He was not iconic, and Re:Zero was terrible.

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>>158816909
She's so cute when she's mad

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Will we remember him?

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>>158816666

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I just want her to be real

Weren't people saying iron blooded orphens had good villains or something? I didn't watch so I dunno

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her love of ramen clinches it

>iconic
>most of the characters posted so far don't even get posted outside of their threads

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Satanichia is VERY iconic. So iconic people only watched that shitshow only for her.

>>158834732
most stuff on /a/ doesn't get posted outside of it's threads these days

>>158830854
>A nice change from I am insame muahaha
But Zamasu was just that, didn't he drove the point hard enough with all his cliche-ridden monologues?

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Looks like Satania wins

>>158834060
>He was not iconic, and Re:Zero was terrible.
>Beetle juice
>Not iconic
What a fag you are. He was literally Joker with a good voice actor.

>>158817135
Everything about Raildex, including the edgy albino, is shit.

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>>158830069
Sad he and erwin died for armong

>>158823140
OP said villains.

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>he still wasnt posted in a iconic villain thread

>>158830854
Zamasu was a faggot that only underage ESLfags like.

>>158830080
>>158828618
As annoying as I find sharkposters, Magane is more of an iconic villain than Altair.

>>158816666
Dio is old, but resurged this decade.

>>158816666
you know, i'm starting to think that Japan isn't as good at making funny yet treatening villiains as the west is, just imagine an anime like Konosuba in wich the main character travel in a fantasy land but that fantasy land is always threatened by an evil dark lord, in anime we don't get to see this dark lord but they keep building him up, and keep building him up... and keep building with no pay off, just imagine if the main villiain is saw since the first episode and he (or she) keep making appearances through the series, i ensure you that the villiain will be more memorable that a build off-never pay off villiain.

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Would she count?

>>158833912
she is technically not covering her nipples... why are her nipples not visible?

>>158836428
>Imaishishit
Only if you're a stupid 12 year old.

>>158824042
How the heck freedom fighting is evil?

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>>158816666
Dumb Sataniaposter.

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He's a great villain but David Productions made him much more menacing

>>158836593
OP said villains, not best girls who did nothing wrong

>>158836502
Name someone more iconic from the decade

>>158836967
Literally anyone. Nothing from that show is iconic at all. It's bait for the same kind of retards that think TTGL invented drills.

>>158816666
You posted her
Also fucking checked

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>>158816666
This decade is all about villains who are the mc.

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>>158836967

>>158816666
>iconic
>this decade
I think I found the problem. We won't be able to tell who is actually iconic and who is flavor-of-the-month garbage until more time has passed. Try asking about iconic 2010's villains again in 2027.

>>158836884
there is literally nothing good to be found in the way DP handled that already meh fight.

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But there is one.

>>158816817
Capeshit.

Well, we have Griffith, but idk if you can call berserk an anime

>>158816817
Isekai will be in it's prime in 2020's.

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>>158836967

Ragyou is top ten.

Sanetoshi deserves a spot, but Penguindrum might not have been as widely viewed.

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>>158816666
I know it's not exactly a villain, but the Titans were memed to death even in mainstream media. Or at least they were at the beginning.

>>158838262
>top ten
Shit villains in shit shows?

>>158836884
literally the decade that killed Dio for me

>>158821867
I would give it either to sensei or his backstabbing friend

>>158825420
>>158830799
She did literally nothing wrong. She rightfully told the degenerate to stop being a degenerate.

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You can only pick one

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>>158836434

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>>158837569
sadly the show itself only has small time villains, demon lord could have been a cotender if he was actually shown

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>>158839041
I literally ruined everything

>>158816666
why have edge when we can have cute girls doing cute things instead?

>>158839910
Because that's the cancer that's killing anime. Cute girls need to be used like salt. You don't make soup out of salt.

>>158819966
>He never read the old Norse story of Brynhildr the virgin maiden who had superhuman strength as long as she remained a virgin
You really shouldn't pretend to know things.

I feel like in anime or manga an villain is hardly a "villain" in the western sense of bad guy from superhero comics, unless it's an obvious otherwordly inhuman thing set to annihilate universe or something. Most of the time they try to build some sympathy towards the villain until he eventually becomes an antihero or even a sidekick, working tohether with main cast to overcome ever bigger threat.

>>158840087
what the fuck does that even mean and you do put salt in soup for flavor.. and by that logic an edgy series with cute girls would be good
madoka?

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>>158839910
you can have cute villains too, the fact the moe shows can't even do that is proof that they're not even trying

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>>158829915
>Villain

>>158816666
how come you are an stupid cynic faggot

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>>158816666
>How come there aren't any iconic villains in anime and manga in this decade?
This decade is a fucking garbage can filled with trash anime.

>>158829961
that's what an antagonist is

>>158839133
nipples dont go that low, I mean I've seen some low nips, but you might as well say they are in her pits

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umm sweetie

kayaba akihiko

>>158833250
That show was more about girls at the hot springs than the Godzilla fights.

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>>158819966

>>158816971
>edge moe

Literally the worst edge and the worst moe.

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>>158816666
This decade includes this guy too, Satan.

Esdeath was iconic at the height of AgK's popularity.

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>>158819966
Anon...

>>158850712
>all those different reaction faces
Beautiful

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>>158816666
DI is getting an adaptation, so if it's good and takes off this guy will be fairly iconic.

>>158816666

Because just like in this case with Satania, it's hard to take a villian seriously when their staying power boils down to "I WANNA FUG THIS CHUUNI RETARD"

>>158839223
How the fuck was he the villian? He just did what had to be done.

WATASHI WA

NINNNGGEEEEEN

>>158836761
What was his name again?

>>158839223
>thread about villians
>posts a hero
baka

>>158830516
cross ange was ruined by dick.

>>158831262
Are you serious? I just lost some respect for Derek Landy there.

>>158837569

I just showed him to you though.

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Aizen is iconic and of this decade, for better or worse

anime return when

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>>158851187
Man, I really hope it won't suck

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>>158816666
Satou deserves at least a mention. Too bad about cgishit

>>158833703
It didn't become a trainwreck. Show was overall calm compared to real trainwrecks

>>158854591
there were no heroes

I'm pretty sure Manami qualifies.

>>158860015
>Manami
>fucking your brother is wrong!
>hurr fuk u

>>158850712
That's a nice statue.