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Time for another shitty thread where Tsukaifags, shitposters, and fujos try to coexist in peace and have a good discussion. Haha who am I kidding
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>>158778884
>asks for shitposting
>is surprised when he gets shitposting
Good job, OP.
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>>158779187
I think in this case it's better to clear the air to start anew rather than pretend the elephant in the room doesn't exist. Previous threads did that and they all devolved into shitposting so I'm trying something else.
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There's not really anything to talk about right now. Maybe tomorrow when the preview images get released.
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A while ago someone asked me for source on pic related and I couldn't give it right away because my twitter feed is way too cramped anyways it's @cro_iz
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So does he have a dick?
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>>158780554
Pretty sure he does, unless this is just an overly puffy vulva.
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>an iho sonzai will never massage your shoulders after a rough day of work
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>>158780953
wew
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>Takes Shindou on a date wearing a T-shirt with a giant clitoris on it
>Going in for the kill with the boyfriend shirt treatment even though there was no reason for her to undress unless I'm misreading this and they already fucked

This woman has the subtlety of a 41-dimensional brick.
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>>158780412
Thanks anon.
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ED is out today. Any rips yet?
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>>158782297
Her mahou shoujo clothes disappeared when her powers wore off. I'm pretty sure she just took his shirt to cover herself with.
Though, why she did that instead of saving them both some embarassment and just borrowing his suit jacket I'll never know.
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>>158782442
>>158782297
Well she wouldn't have gone "kyaaaahh!" had she just taken the jacket. Because that's not embarassing enough. And we all watch anime just to watch girls screaming kyaa in embarassement right? Right?
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>>158778884
Will we get an implied gangbang with the Shindo clones?
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bump
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>>158783291
Hopefully not. zaShunina is already made for suffering, he doesn't need even more of it.
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>>158783291
Why isn't this a doujin yet?
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Is there a future for zaShunina beside reincarnation and yandere hikkomori with clones end?
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>>158786051
>implying this isn't just the beginning of his suffering
Just look at the OP, it's obvious the author is only just starting.
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>>158787545
>reincarnation end
>first cucked, then childzoned
This is the worst possible ending.
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I can't tell if this is a translation error or what, but zaShunina greeting aniso!Tsukai with "So you're this world's administrator" doesn't jive with the next episode where she's called crazy for going into the cocoon. So is it normal to have an admin or not?
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>>158778884
These threads prove humanity isn't ready.
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>>158788257
How so? She set the initial parameters of the universe, and fell in love with her own creation, enough to jump into it instead of watching it from afar, like most anisotropes.
An admin isn't supposed to live among us, is all.
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deddest bread
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>>158780554
He looks so much more human/meaty/organic in the manga, for some reason it creeps me out much more than his almost robotic CG version.
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>>158781065
>tfw this will never happen because they had to shove some shitty romance and make the ayylmao evil.
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>>158792124
Cry more
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>>158792453
Nice bump
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>>158792502
You're welcome.
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>>158792612
>anon has a nu IP
Maybe we aren't so dead after all
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>>158792668
Is she wearing a One Piece tee?
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>>158792652
You weren't. I put this show on hold because fujobait but I've been lurking the threads since the first episode.
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I just caught up and I think people are exaggerating about how bad episode 10 was. I'm still enjoying this show quite a lot.
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I mean, I'm still pretty much on board the iho sonzai train.
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Is the OST out yet?
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>>158793935
It should be released along with the second BD. Don't know when that is though.
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>>158794144
Hot damn, why is Adam Ward so attractive?
That is a face I'd sit on
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>>158778884
No one's forcing you to make thread 24/7 retard
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>>158794264
Eh, better to have a containment thread than shit up anything else, right?
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Tsukai Saraka is too perfect. Please post extra cute Sarakas.
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>>158794525
>tsukai saraka
Did you mean Alien thigh gap? I think you did.
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>>158794525
I think it might only be fujos in the thread at the moment.
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>>158794818
I did not mean this particular iho sonzai.
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so are they going to bring sci fi back to the show or is it fucking dead?
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>>158780953
If he doesn't have a dick, he definitely doesn't have a vulva. At worst, he's a Ken doll, but >>158781307
has me inclined to believe he does in fact have a dick.
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I haven't watched the last 3 episodes vut I heard this went full retard.

What happened?
I'm afraid to continue it was going so well
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What time do preview images usually come out?
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>>158795780
Not as bad as people keep freaking out about as long as you weren't expecting high art from this show.
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The next episodes look like a literal Geass tier trainwreck.
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>>158795878
I never cared for the art, I am genuinely interested in the story.

Good to know it wasn't the story that went to shit.
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>>158796247
>high art
It's a figure of speech. Not the literal art.
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>>158795943
At least with Geass the slope was meticulously built and oiled with a purpose, the show intentionally slid on it with great results. But here? I'm not sure there's even a slope. This could be a freefall.
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>>158796405
>It's a figure of speech

Oh shit, that implies the story took a turn for the worse
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>>158797168
It took a turn for the tropey. Not terrible, but a bit cliche.
I think most of the complaints are the implementation of the romance aspect and the NTR memes. And Tsukai is a Mary Sue who can do no wrong.
As a piece of entertainment, it's still watchable.
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>>158797166
the fuck is that image? Giygas?
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>>158797168
That depends on whether you like Saraka or the alien better.
If you like Saraka, you'll think "hey, this is shit but at least my girl came out on top so okay". If you were more attached to zaShunina on the other hand, you might find yourself on suicide watch when you're done.
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>>158797408
>you might find yourself on suicide watch when you're done.
Hey, there's still a chance for a happy ending for him!
Oh, who am I kidding, suffering for all eternity's all he has to look forward to.
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>>158797240
>And Tsukai is a Mary Sue who can do no wrong.
I don't care for her way of thinking but ok.

>>158797408
I'm a Shinawa fan, I couldn't care less for Tsukai
I'll brace myself as a zaShuninafag for when I catch up tomorrow.
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>gets his hand chewed and slobbered on
>doesn't even protest
In hindsight, it's pretty obvious he really didn't know what dislike was.
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>>158797888
>Shinawa fan
>zaShuninafag
You're alright buddy, don't come to school tomorrow.

>>158797536
Exactly friend. All we can do is watch the wreck in slow motion. Nothing can stop it now.
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I believe Tsukai's smile will be protected.
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So is it safe to assume that Ki and Wa were zaShunina and Tsukai respectively? They're the only ones who were really interested in the process and Ki sounds like an analytical type, while Wa was all about the direct experience.
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>>158799973
Maybe this is why Zashunina arrived so late, he actually took time to think about stuff and make calculations?
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>>158799973
I'm still a bit confused on the creation story. From what I was understanding, the anisotropics create a bunch of universes, or "cocoons" so they can compute data. One universe ended up creating humans, which are unique because they can create their own data. They talk a lot about the singularity, but it didn't make much sense in the context. Was ours the only created universe to undergo a "Big Bang"?
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>>158800386
>take 2 billions of years to descend on earth with kado and the rest of his gifts
No wonder he didn't want to redo the calculations to warp out and warp in Kado to Sayama Lake.
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>>158799973
I assumed Ki was another anisotropic being who descended on earth and will be revealed soon. But then again you could be right.
Still it would be strange since neither zaShunina nor Tsukai looked like they knew each other. Or maybe even they can't tell the identity of the anisotropic being they're talking to in lower dimensions.
Also I'm curious about zaShunina's name. How come all the anisotropes have monosyllabic names but his is so fucking long? Could he be an aggregate of many anisotropes in one body?
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>>158800885
>Still it would be strange since neither zaShunina nor Tsukai looked like they knew each other. Or maybe even they can't tell the identity of the anisotropic being they're talking to in lower dimensions.
I don't think the anisotropics are very "personal", as we would call it. The producer mentioned in one old interview that zaShunina has trouble seeing people as individuals, so it's possible they don't place much emphasis on personhood and individuality. Since the true anisotropics are emotionless, the only thing that distinguishes them from each other are their information analysis priorities.
The lower dimension difference could be a factor too.
>Also I'm curious about zaShunina's name. How come all the anisotropes have monosyllabic names but his is so fucking long?
Who knows how their names really work. "Ki" could be a relative position, while Yaha-kui zaShunina a formal identification tag that no anisotropic would normally use because it's irrelevant to them.
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>>158800885
>Still it would be strange since neither zaShunina nor Tsukai looked like they knew each other.
They are probably very isolated beings
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>>158801442
>The producer mentioned in one old interview that zaShunina has trouble seeing people as individuals
Precisely, but if I remember well, this applied to humans, not anisotropes. zaShunina can barely distinguish us in much the same way we can barely distinguish ants.
> it's possible they don't place much emphasis on personhood and individuality
They had a whole conversation, surely they must have been able to distinguish between one another enough to hold it.
>Yaha-kui zaShunina a formal identification tag that no anisotropic would normally use because it's irrelevant to them
I suppose, that would make sense.
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>>158795815
Last week they came out just a couple hours before the episode aired.
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>>158801842
It applied to humans, yes, but it'd make sense if they treated each other in a similar way. They're eternal and isolated and without emotional attachments, one's personal identity probably doesn't matter much.

And speaking of identity and names, even human cultures have showed similar weirdness in the past. Reading The Tale of Genji in its original form is a huge pain in the ass, because pretty much all characters are identified by their current rank or position and not by name. They did have personal names, but at the Heian court, it was considered rude to use them.
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>>158801842
>They had a whole conversation, surely they must have been able to distinguish between one another enough to hold it.
Their conversation could work like an anonymous chat. They know they are talking to someone, but the exact identity remains uncertain/irrelevant.
>yfw it's a whole race of anons
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>>158802599
>our universe was created by a 40D 4chan out of boredom
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>>158800386
>>158799973
Ki is the one who does most of the initial analysis and points out the singularity. He's also the one who first brings up the possibility to do something.
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>>158803176
If zaShunina was Ki he should have known who the administrator was.
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>>158803176
Meanwhile, No and Sa think Wa has brain problems.
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>>158803221
Ki's personality does match zaShuninas.
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>>158803208
See the discussion in the last ten posts or so. They may not know each other in any real sense.
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>>158803221
Speaking of brain problems, looks like Ki got really excited here.
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>>158803487
What is this, some untranslatable gibberish?
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>>158803487
It's probably meant to represent a concept with no equivalent in Japanese.
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>>158803944
The novel manuscript also had symbols on it.
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>>158804440
Forgot pic.
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>>158799973
>>158803221
>episode is called Towanosakiwa
>it's the group of the anisotropics who witnessed the birth of our universe
Neat.
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>>158805016
Nice catch anon.
Any idea on the meaning of Rotowa?
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>>158805211
No idea; "ro" doesn't seem to be a common syllable in their language. I'm more interested what "⊿г≡" is supposed to mean. The symbols are ours, though.
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>>158805492
>⊿г≡
Hiroyuki Sawano confirmed for anisotropic being
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>>158805492
>⊿г≡
Ki (>>158803487) would approve.
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>>158805531
Too short and concise for Sawano.
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>>158805016
This sounds oddly promising. I still have hope it'll turn out not as bad as we expected. Looking back at latest developements with Tsukai it wouldn't be that bad if they just pictured it differently. A few changes and the idea behing it is okay, too bad the delivery sucked
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>>158806410
Keep in mind that the series was originally meant to be twice as long, so some things ended up rushed as a result.
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>>158804460
http://www.hayakawa-online.co.jp/shopdetail/000000013593/
>two weeks to release
>still no cover image
Why. It can't be that much of a spoiler.
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>>158807154
At least all the episodes are interesting
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>>158807154
The last month's Animage interview mentioned that a lot of stuff got cut, including some development for Tsukai. They had to pick between zaShunina's scenes and Tsukai's, and since he was the more important character, they prioritised him.
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>>158782782
Kek, I'll never get tired of reading these kinds of posts
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>>158807154
Wasn't it supposed to be a film originally?
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Preview images when?
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>>158807335
Back when it didn't even have a story. The story was written for a two-cour anime show, which got cut down to 12 episodes.
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>>158807154
I'm aware of that but that's not what I meant, maybe I didn't use the right words. I'm not complaining about how it was rushed and didn't have enough build up, my issues are with how it was visually presended. If it were more abstract and not typical visual cliche depict of power-levels, light swords, barriers, animu sparkles and healing kisses instead of more surrealistic or scfi apprach (of the same events), it would have been easier to accept shortcomings in the story. But rushed story combined with magical girl fighting visuals was too much dissapointment at once.
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>>158807993
It's hard to notice, honestly. The pace is sometimes really sluggish and on several occasions the show focuses on aspects that are completely redundant, like the failed attempts at humour.
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>>158808391
I get the other stuff, but there weren't any power levels to speak of. It was all over in a matter of moments.
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>>158808412
I disagree, Tsukai winning the Shindobowl out of nowhere is proof enough.
It only feels sluggish because the show is dialogue driven. It's not sluggish at all by the standards of anyone who watched all of LoGH for instance.
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Preview images yet?
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Are you ready for this smile to be erased from existence in this universe?
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>>158812504
I am ready to suffer, mon ami.
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>>158812504
If they do reincarnation ending I will erase Mr. Nozaki from existence.
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A plug only matches with a socket. And I'm not talking about the other two sockets
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>>158809826
LOGH had over 100 episodes and was an OVA, so they had the luxury of taking their sweet time.
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>>158812504
I am ready, but I don't approve.
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Who here would join the anisotropic?
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>>158813799
I would with the caveat that he perfected the transformation process beforehand.
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>>158813799
I would. After Zashunina figures out a safe way to do it.
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>>158813799
Maybe when I'm older and sick and ready to die. But not while I'm young.
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>>158813984
>>158813991
>>158814078

Presumably, you would not step into a hypothetical teleporter to Mars.
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>>158813799
Would join immediately if zaShunina managed to reduce the risk of dying.
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>>158809826
I wouldn't say it was out of nowhere.
>dude likes her well enough and they have a solid rapport
>has a boner for aliens
>she just saved his life
>his previous alien relationship just went up in flames
It wouldn't qualify for the greatest love story ever told, but adults often have flings with much less basis than that.
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>>158808391
There was nothing wrong with any of that.
Given that Yahakui has never killed someone before, it was an opportunity to gain new information. What better way is there to dive into the human experience than slaying a human with a sword, the tool created exactly for that task and represents it better than anything else throughout history?
The barrier and beam of kill are fine too, I doubt fancy tricks like time stop work on anisotropic beings, and if they were creative entities they wouldn't need cocoons in the first place so the eraser beam and barrier is fine.
The "sparkles" are tiny geometric shapes representing the power of the anisotropic that they tap into which you can see other instances of.
The kiss didn't magically heal Shindo, given that he saved her life she felt like sexually assaulting him. However since she saved him too they gained huge affection points, and being trapped in an isolated space together in a heavy situation scored more, so the closer relationship and>>158808391
park bench scene isn't "out of nowhere".
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Also, Tsukai is fucking cute. You know Shindo has been into her since she laughed at that delegation meeting.
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You think he'll fuck the clones?
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>>158817715
Probably won't have enough time for that. And clones clearly aren't enough anymore.
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Are the preview images late this week?
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>>158817984
They were very late last week too.
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>>158815461
>What better way is there to dive into the human experience than slaying a human with a sword, the tool created exactly for that task and represents it better than anything else throughout history?
Meh, but that's the thing, it's just too straightforward, and uninventive to boot. While it is true that zaShunina's character arc supports his using human tools, we're here in presence of a 40D being who calls food "metabolic fuel" and has been thus far considerably more inventive in threatening Shindou's life just by being careless.
Might as well invoke another infinity fractal table to knock him off his feet and let him land on his skull. Alter their relative time again. Lock them up in a part of Kado, forever. Alter their relative time at the cellular level to stimulate malignant cells only. Get rid of the air inside kado. Use that snow assasination technique, but with fractals. Carve out his heart Trafalgar Law style. Anything.
There are so many possibilities and opportunities for such a character yet we get DBZ tier power stylization? How lazy.
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>>158819498
Hell, no need to even get all that creative with it. If he can completely control the space within Kado, how hard would it have been to instantly and painlessly vaporize him?
I mean sure, it doesn't allow for Tsukai to burst through the wall for a dramatic rescue romance, but it would have been efficient.
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So the only thing that could potentially kill zaShunina is a broken heart.
That about right?
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>>158819878
Assuming his mind isn't too tied to his current body, yeah. If it is, all bets are off.
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Whose hand is this, /a/?
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>>158821344
Tsukai, of course
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>>158821344
Tsukai's, most likely. The preview has a shot of someone's hand shrinking out a dark sleeve.
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>>158821344
mine
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>>158821377
Why is this alien so smug?
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>>158821344
> Hand holding
98.6% PORN
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>>158821580
zaShunina had it first
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>>158821344
Hanamori.
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>>158821377
Needs a macro.
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>>158821776
>copy thyself
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>>158821344
>Shindo holding Tsukai's hand
>>158821377
>ZaShunina looking sadly at his empty hand
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>>158821776
>consider the following
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>>158822179
Pottery
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>>158822179
You forgot to mention the diametrically opposed light directions and colors.
>light vs shadow
>light beige background vs dark purple background

It's even more sad when you remember Kado used to be golden back when things were okay between Shindo and zaShunina. I'll never forgive Tsukai for this reeee
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So will episode 11 be even worse, or will the show be able to dig itself out of the hole that was 9&10?
If nothing else, I imaging zaShunina fucking around with clones will be both sad and entertaining.
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>>158823101
Half episode will be Shindo Tsukai deito
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>>158822179
He didn't deserve this suffering.
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>>158823187
>deito
>while the world is falling apart and one or both of them are still on zaShunina's hit list
Those crazy kids and their skewed priorities.
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>>158823187
>Half episode will be Shindo Tsukai deito
Fuck this shit, this is actually likely and now I'm not so sure I want to watch this episode anymore.

>>158823101
My bet is that it will keep pulling epic tweests until the very end. Though I don't have much hope that it can get better.
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>>158823194
zaShunina literally did nothing wrong
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Rejoice hetfags, Google-kun has spoken.
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>>158823971
> Harem anime
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>>158823971
zaShunina best girl
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What a fucking flop
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I have just realized that it's impossible to fix this show in the ramaining 2 episodes, considering the pace it was going at this whole time.
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>>158826174
May as well watch it go down in flames.
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>>158826174
Inb4 season 2
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>>158826350
>reincarnation end
>Season 2
>It's a SoL with Shindo and Tsukai trying to raise zaShunina who is starting to reawaken to his power
Hell, I'd watch it.
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I don't even know if I should watch the remaining episodes. It's only going to make me more angry and nobody wants to see Tsukai Deito while zaShunina is suffering ._. well I'm speaking for myself though
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>>158826442
>It's a SoL
Yikes.
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Give more Tsukai deban.
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>>158826442
>i'd watch it
People like you are the reason why we can't have nice things.
Obviously the better SoL is the one about zaShunina and Shindo's married life in the anisotropic
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>>158826442
>7 episodes of garbage SOL
>Epsiode 8 twist and genre shift: zaShunina awakens to his power and memories, kills mom, rapes dad
>Endless despair ending
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>>158827223
This anon gets it. This is the only acceptable kind of reincarnation ending.
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>>158782442
>fujos being this delusional
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>>158827829
>hetfags being this delusional
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>>158805016
towanosakiwa also makes the jp phrase 永久の先は "(what lies) beyond eternity"
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>>158828639
Foreshadowing?
I'm still half-expecting Shindo (or one of the clones at least) to get anisotroped.
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I want zaShunina to know that taste when you cry so hard your nose runs into your mouth.
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>Shindo goes to the anisotropic with Tsukai
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>>158829720
> Shindo has no air so he has to smell Tsukai's armpits
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>>158782297
>>158782442

she had to contact the upper half of his body with hers to heal him. "that's how it works"
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>>158829859
>here's some bullshit intimate healing to facilitate this forced romance
God damn it, Nozaki.
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>>158829720
>Implying Tsukai would leave her beloved ningens for one guy
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zaShunina doesn't even have to win the Shindobowl. I just don't want him to suffer or get childzoned via reincarnation
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>>158821344

That's it, I'm out. When's the last time we've heard anything from the world outside of Japan? Let's introduce some reality altering concepts and then completely forget about them in order to focus on a cliche romance that we could have found literally anywhere else. Kado had the potential to be in a genre of its own, how the fuck did we end up here?
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>>158830618
See you tomorrow.
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>>158821344
inb4 he's actually removing her hand
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Is anyone else here actually enjoying their anger?
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>>158831037
In what sense? Enjoying one's own anger? (cause in that case, a little now that immediate annoyance has passed)
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>>158830700
>"Please stop trying to remove my shirt again, Tsukai. It's inappropriate and I really need to get back to ZaShunina. He proposed to me, but I was too dazed at the moment to tell him yes."
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>>158831571
More like
>"I can do my own buttons, mom."
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>>158831571
Shouldn't he still be suffering from severe hunger and dehydration at this point?
No way they fucked with him in that condition.
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>>158831702
Protip: Highly stimulated tits can solve both problems!
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>>158829720
Tsukai ain't leaving her beloved universe unless something really drastic happens.
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>>158831571
I'm laughing but deep down I'm crying.
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I'm going to laugh so hard if the Tsukai baiting in this and the last episode is also a fakeout.
I mean, I know it's not, but it would be hilarious.
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Someone webm Shindo's awkward scoot away from naked Tsukai.
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>>158832260
Nice filename.
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>kissu in preview
Need I remind you that this was also in an episode preview?
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>What did he mean by this?
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>>158832719
Well, he wasn't wrong.
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>>158832719
Well he's not wrong.
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>>158832833
>>158832846
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>>158832346
>can improve people's lives and save the planet
>nah, let's not
Truly the worst god.
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>>158832833
>>158832846
> Technically correct mind

Actually he's referring to the euphamism that Americans have huge meat blasters that can easily overwhelm a simple farm town girl.
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>>158832926
>simple farm town girl
Wasn't she born in a Tokyo suburb?
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>13 hours until episode 11
I am ready to suffer.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JFRmFp4s60&feature=youtu.be

Completely forgot about this old PV.
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dead thread, spread bread.
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>>158833642
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>>158835404
You know, Shindo did touch the god console. I wonder if he has any new abilities as a result, or if you have to maintain contact with it to work?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiqRGJe6Re4
I'M ONLY AS GOOD AS MY GOD
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>>158832178
Not even into the homo ship but this would be funny as hell I'd lose my sides
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Are the OSTs out?
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>>158836885
5 minutes
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>>158832541

What's your point, though? It vaguely looks like a hug but with the wam clearly visible and the distance of the arms it was obvious even at the time that it was something else. While it would be great if it were bait, there's one shot of what can only be a kiss and now Shindo tenderly holding Tsukai's hand to his chest. Episode 8's preview hinted pretty clearly that shit was going to hit the fan and most denied it. If you're expecting anything else than what's been shown this time, brace for disappointment.
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>>158831037
They're cancer though.
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I just want zaShunina not to suffer but the way things are going, it seems like he's going to die of a broken heart ;_;
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>>158837421
Don't bother with the fujos. They're in denial harder than I've ever seen denial before in my life.
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>>158838843
What is this, your first rodeo? The fujoshit has more basis here than in many other series where fujos delude themselves. In a scenario like this, it's not much different from waifufags deluding themselves into the belief that their best girl is going to win the MCbowl even when she's obviously a doomed player.
You're quite weak if this is a heavy fujo delusion to you.
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>>158838512
To be fair, his vulnerability was foreshadowed right at the start. The very first thing Shindo saw of him was a naked, unguarded heart.
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>>158839890
Is this what fujos really believe?
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>>158840007
It's just some good ol' theorycrafting.
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>>158838843

Careful with generalizing, anon. I'm a fujo too; the denial is annoying no matter what you support. The strangest thing is that the animation of this show allows for unusually clear body language, and yet so many people miss the cues entirely.
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>>158840007
>what is symbolism
His first appearance was chock-full of it. Even the character designer pointed out the intentional contrast between him and the other characters (pure white vs. various shades of black and brown, natural blues and greens of Kado vs. gray human structures). And since he was literally pure at that point, it's not even a very subtle symbolism.
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>>158838512
He's going to be fine. The key art is too positive for it to end with high-octane angst.
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>http://www.hayakawa-online.co.jp/shopdetail/000000013593/
The novel cover is out.
>Alternative "right answer"
>Shocking spin-out novelization
Oh boy, here we go.
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Does anyone know if Murata talked about what influenced this story? I just learned about the story of Valiant Thor and he's so close to the personality and goals of zaShunina that I doubt it's a coincidence.
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>>158841422
Shiny cover tb͏h
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>>158842187
The producer said the overall atmosphere and such was influenced by Interstellar (the movie), while the story seems to follow the theme of misunderstandings that arise when completely different entities are trying to communicate. There's a companion short story anthology that paints a pretty good picture what they were going for.
>one story has human explorers kill a gentle, intelligent alien which then takes over the attacker's brain
>little kid grows close to his not so imaginary alien companion and they merge
>vulnerable animal-like aliens serve as onaholes for horny ningens
>a space explorer enters a foursome relationship with three different alien entities, tries to have family with them
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>>158841422
>Alternative "right answer"

Does this sound a bit stupid or what
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>>158842471
>there is more than one answer
Wew
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>>158842471
Now that you mention it.
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>>158842471
Not at all. There is never just one right answer.
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>>158842547
>cuckolding: the thinking man's fetish
wwwwwwww
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And I can't say that I enjoy Kado's edgy palette
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>>158842589
>edgy pallete
What did he mean by this?
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>>158842689
You know how it was pretty and golden all the time and then went purple and gloomy when zaShunina went antagonist?

I hope it gets a new theme soon.
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>>158838512
How do you die of a broken heart? I'm not sure zaShunina can even suicide.
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>>158841187
>zaShunina and Shindo standing in the twilight
>positive
Hahaha good one anon.
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>>158842733
Kado is connected to him on a mental level, so it's no coincidence that it became gloomy when zaShunina started feeling anxiety and despair. If you pay closer attention, the Kado interior has actually changed several times, reflecting zaShunina's inner change.
>blank and golden, no features or interior design
>golden with interior decorations
>golden, green and gray with complex interior decorations
>vast blue and green during his and Shindo's "last supper"
>dark with a huge core of light during his confession
>completely dark after the subsequent fiasco
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>>158842841
>pink sky
>twilight
It's dawn.
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>>158843067
Come on anon, pink sky isn't limited to dawn. Both dusk and dawn are valid interpretations of that pic.
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>>158843204
The tagline ("the beautiful answer has arrived") wouldn't make much thematic sense with the dusk background.
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If they find a way to destroy Kado, then Zashinina probably won't be able to return back to anisotropic and will get stuck on earth. Also transfering himanity to anisotropic will become impossible too.
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>>158840749
>The strangest thing is that the animation of this show allows for unusually clear body language, and yet so many people miss the cues entirely.

Not just cues in this show. Sorry for semi blogshit, but even though I'm the dumbest dumbfuck compared to normalfag show watchers, animefags outstupid me all the time. E.g. it seems they divide between hallucinating canon relationships from two characters sharing the planet, and denying attraction between two characters banging on screen. I want to know why, if it's culture clashes or young/sheltered fanbase or what the fuck it is.
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>>158843720
It's not just animu. Anyone who has ever tried to discuss anything of substance with multiple people has experienced situations where three people looking at exactly the same thing had at least three completely different interpretations of what it meant. We really don't see the same world sometimes.
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>>158843720
I don't think it's limited to animefags. People only see what they want to see. Just like irl.
People will miss anything subtle that they aren't paying specific attention to. And that's how you end up with diametrically opposed opinions about what happened in a visual media.
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>>158843720
>This >>158843889
Anyone who has ever tried to discuss anything of substance with multiple people has experienced situations where three people looking at exactly the same thing had at least three completely different interpretations of what it meant
This. Just try going to a drawing/painting lesson someday and look at everyone's canvas at the end of the day. Everyone might be drawing the same thing, but you still end up with vastly different interpretations. Even if the whole class is both talented and going for a realistic approach.
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Preview pics.
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>>158844266
zaShunina in existential crisis
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>>158844281
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>>158844303
Incoming cuckage
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>>158844303
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>>158844303
Stop it! The fujos are already dead!
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>>158844322
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>>158844266
Who the fuck is that next to him?
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>>158844344
>crying Hanamori
This is terrible.
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>>158844344
>"go for it tsukai-san! i'll be rooting for you"
>cries when she actually succeeds
Someone protect this guy.
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>>158844344
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>>158844344
>>158844281
This is unacceptable, Nozaki needs to be stopped
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>>158844349
Copy Shindo?
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I want real Shindo to die.
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>>158844281
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dgbbtUbgcM
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Is it just me or is the art in some of the preview shots way off or at least different in style?
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>>158844281
>>158844384
>Kado is turning gold again
Interesting.
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>>158844456
It not the regular golden though. The light doesn't engulf zaShunina the way it used to. His face is shadowed.
As for the second one, I'm pretty sure that's not even golden. This is red, yet another color.
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>>158844446
>when you realise that zaShunina probably absorbed /r9k/
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>>158843720
>E.g. it seems they divide between hallucinating canon relationships from two characters sharing the planet, and denying attraction between two characters banging on screen.
Shippers gonna ship. Have you never seen crazy slashfics?
https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Pregnant%20Severus%20Snape/works

>>158840749
>unusually clear body language
Anons are terrible at picking up any subtle cues, be they verbal or non-verbal. And even if they are picked up they're considered as open to interpretation. Even explicit confessions of love, marriage proposals and on-screen kisses will still be questioned on the grounds that they have turned out to be misunderstandings or were treated as puppy crushes.

Standards of evidence are very high in these waters.
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>>158844384
I don't think I've ever seen him look so displeased.
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>>158844342
With shindo clones everyone can win.
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>>158844539
Looks more like wariness/doubt to me.
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>>158844518
Hey, at least we're getting out of the doom & gloom zone.
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>>158844349
>>158844417
Nah, I thnk it's Hanamori. Look at the color of his shirt.
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>>158843720
>hallucinating canon relationships
Are you new to 4chan?
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>>158844621
>striped shirt collar
It's Shindo.
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>>158844706
Ah shit you're right.
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>>158844706
Will the real Shindo please stand up?
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>>158844736
zaShunina has at least five of them now, so good luck with that.
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So who's next to Hanamori?
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>>158844774
I hope he's behind seven proxies when the laser of death is created.
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>>158844778
Black suit and black hair suggest it's a Shindo.
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If anyone else gets clone/copied this will be confusing.
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>>158844303
Slut. Sluuuuuuuuuut
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>>158844774
I wish I had five versions of my love interest to molest as I please.
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>>158844736
>>158844774
Nah it's easy, the real Shindo will probably wear his short sleeved shirt from now on.
It's both a good way to fit Saraka's color scheme >>158844303 and to make it apparent he gave up on his ties with zaShunina (Shindo's suits and zaShunina's costume were clearly designed to make them look like a set of complementary indivduals).
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>>158845171
Colour coded for your convenience
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>>158844612
Red is an angry color, so I think we're actually getting closer to doom.
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>>158846127
If someone stole your human out from under your nose wouldn't you be feeling a bit annoyed?
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>>158844281
>>158844344
Look at what you've done, Tsukai.
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>>158846279
>>158844281
>>158844344
That's why the winner is always worst girl.
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>zaShunina won't even end up with science girl
Fuck Shindo
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>>158846333
>implying zashunina ending up shinwawawa was ever a possibility
That would make about as much sense as Yuno settling for not Kaworu in Mirai Nikki.
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is everybody ready for more shit today? I know I am.
I miss the comfy science threads of the first few episodes with the waifufags and best girlfags nowhere to be seen. After all the Tsukai shit went down the threads devolved to your normal every day status quo threads.
And before anyone says fujo tears, it's just really sad we had half a season of how every little thing zaShunina does has huge impacts on earth, the people, politics, and science. And then turn into "ayy well humanity wouldn't exist in a billion years anyway"
It just kinda made the first few episodes lose their luster, to me anyway. I mean we had that web comic with the kids and zaShunina's effects on every day lives going too.
I read some anon a few threads ago say the creator normally writes his anime from the end and works backwards, if true. Could that explain why we've got really crazy and shit ending but an amazing beginning since by the time they were done writing the story they would have thought out and had more detailed plans, leaving the start (or the end in this case) full of crazy shit?
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zaShunina's prison cell looks like a potato. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN8NDJYt9Sw
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>>158846465
I was going to say that it looks like a Max Revive.
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>>158846520
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>>158846520
Is she even in the damn prison? She escaped with Shindo after he got shot, but then suddenly zaShunina walks out with her in a cell?
I didn't know if I was stupid or just not understanding the scene correctly. Anyway, if she is in the prison, she'll just break out due to power of love
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>>158846568
Rewatch the intimate healing scene (as cringy as it is). She says they're in an isolated space she created.
Sure zaShunina might not force it open, but that doesn't mean he can't isolate the space around it and put it in a fancy little stellated dodecahedron.
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>>158846568
Pretty sure zaShunina was lying.
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>>158846795
>>158846856
This is some nice fractal posting, good job anon.
If it was up to me, I'd have the story go like this.
Tsukai and Shindo prime are in their isolated space, and zaShunina created a mini universe around it for them to exist in, he may have even been able to create a small copy of the universe, so then he can continue to do things in Universe A while they exist in Universe B unaware.
Or, to go a bit more crazy... Maybe Tsukai could use this isolated space to live a human life with Shindo, hence the scene of them kissing, while zaShunina continues to fuck with the main universe..
Or maybe... who am I kidding, it's going to be none of that and be just as unexciting as the last two episodes with some small tweeeest or something cliche happening with her continuing to win Shindo while our ayylien suffers..
I think I'm depressed, but in a fractal, 5D sense.
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Question: given what we know, wouldn't anistropic beings be able to perceive all of time forwards and backwards? I know there are multiple universes or whatever, but I'm assuming that the beings should be able to know what the outcome of their actions will be. Why is zaShunina surprised by Shindo in episode 10?
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>>158844281
Even his hair is droopier than usual.
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Is the theme of gods gaining emotions by interacting with humans common in japanese literature? It reminds me a lot of what happened in Kaguya.
Though at the end Kaguya goes back to the anisotropic/moon and loses both her emotions and her memories.
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>>158847099
So would Kaguya be zaShunina or Tsukai?
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>>158847004
>zaShunina created a mini universe around it for them to exist in, he may have even been able to create a small copy of the universe, so then he can continue to do things in Universe A while they exist in Universe B unaware
Now that's wicked. Not sure I'd like the idea of my love interest being locked up together with my love rival if I were zaShunina though.
>I think I'm depressed, but in a fractal, 5D sense
Me too, who knew abstract fractal suffering could be so deep.
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>>158847070
Anisotropic space, not time.
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>>158847070
>I'm assuming that the beings should be able to know what the outcome of their actions will be. >Why is zaShunina surprised by Shindo in episode 10?
The answer is you assumed wrong. Anisotropes aren't octapods.
Even in the dialogue they had concerning our universe all they could do was comment as it was unfolding before their eyes. They never made predictions or drew conclusions.
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>2 hours until stream
>2.5 hours until subs
Why does this have me so stressed out?
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>>158847140
I wish it were Tsukai if that meant she'll fuck off and leave Shindo and zaShunina alone together.
I have the feeling zaShunina is the one though ;_;
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>zaShunina and Tsukai merge into one being
There, now both of them get their husbando. Problem solved.
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>>158847326
I would rather see zaShunina marry Tsukai
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>>158847231
Assume zaShunina will continue to suffer more, accept this, you know it to be true.
I've accepted I lost the battle and war this time with Kado.
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May as well load the train with fireworks if we're going to wreck it anyway.
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>>158847326
>>158847337
I'm not sure which one is worse. You might as well ask me whether I'd rather drink a glass of pus or a glass of period blood.
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>>158847401
I FUCKING HATE MERGING SHIT HOLY SHIT THE END OF (this particular book from this year's Hugo's) Ninefox Gambit MADE ME SO FUCKING MAD.

MERGING ENDINGS ARE FUCKING CANCER
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Why does Tsukai's hair suck so much?
Actually, why does Tsukai suck so much?
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>>158847231
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>>158847367
This guys is right. Go for it Nozaki, unleash all the worst tweests in existence to make the most trainwreck end that ever was.
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>>158847532
>laser beam
We are going all the way, huh.
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>>158847523
40DPD
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If y'all can't understand the whole "love as the celebration of what it means to be human" angle they got going on, that might mean you're as unaware of human standards as zaShunina is
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>>158847464
I like merging. It opens up new possibilities and tends to deliver a pretty uplifting message overall.
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>>158848010
>love as the celebration of what it means to be human
Helen of Troy.
Romeo and Juliet.
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>>158848010

it is done poorly, especially when compared to the first half of the show.
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>>158848010
zaShunina got into the whole love business too and it clearly isn't good for him.
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seeing johnny depp in the news again made me think about something I said about Kado was that it reminded me of Transcendence, and funny enough Kado too kind of fell apart in the last act just like that movie did, which is a real fucking shame, because I would love if just once a "let's advance humanity" setting to actually come through with it's ending, and it reminded me how a lot of settings like this tend to fall apart in the last bit of the story for power of love endings or other bullshit, why exactly can't we have some alien or whathaveyou advance humanity beyond our wildest dreams without the ending being fucked up?
Is there any movie or show that doesn't screw up and humanity becomes a shining utopia?
At least in Eva everybody got orange juiced.
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>>158823660
>>158847004
>>158847567
>tweests
>tweeeest
>tweests
Could you stop that? It was only slightly immature the first hundred times, but it's getting annoying.
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>>158847326
Sounds good. They can resolve their ideological differences and uplift mankind at a more reasonable pace.
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>>158847227
>octapods
Chiang is one of my favorite sci-fi authors but the Arrival reveal was fucking retarded. The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis is mostly nonsense anyway, but seeing into future because you learned random grammar is literally just "it's magic, I don't have to explain shit".
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Reminder that Tsukai was a massive slut swallowing thousands of gallons of sponge cum in a past life.
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>>158848292
It's a cool idea, what more do you need?
>the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis is mostly nonsense anyway
Nah you're full of shit. It's proved the more gendered a language is the earlier children are aware and acting in accordance with their sex. People speaking a language that doesn't have a future tense procrastinate less. Aborigians can't say good morning or how are you without knowing which direction they're facing. They have 11/10 sense of direction as a result. They could tell you which way they're facing in a closed room without windows.
Sure they're taking it up to eleven with the arrival and there's but storytelling wise it works and really that's all I ask of a story.
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>>158848292
I tried to read that Chiang short story collection and honestly have to say that I dropped it.

The only writers that have really impressed so far from the recent stock are Ada Palmer and Peter Watts.
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>>158848128

These stories always seem to end up celebrating humanity in the most conservative, "our lives are alright if you think about it!" way and by vilifying the alien side, like it's the only way. Why not celebrate humanity by showing humans making good use of the new tools given or something?

This is what annoys me the most about Tsukai. She has tools far beyond anything we are currently capable of at her disposal but she actively struggles to keep humanity from progressing because muh natural and muh humans. By the time humanity has naturally made it near her level - we're more likely to suffer a complete wipe-out before that - probably millions of people will have died.

You know, I hope the twist won't turn out to be zaShunina being mustache-twirling kind of evil.
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>>158848587
does this >>158844281
look like moustache-twirling evil to you?
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>>158848616

No, but I'm mentally preparing my anus in any case. You never know. Did you expect Tsukai to henshin?
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>>158848470
Or webm related. He's probably more traumatized than Shindo now.
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>>158848870
Was meant for >>158848616.
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>>158847523
CGI anime hair is hard. If you look at handdrawn hair they do all kinds of inconsistent things.
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>>158844281
Remorse.png
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>>158844303
> This handsome negotiator is having 40D sex and basically you are retarded.
> Click Here to find out more!
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>>158846465
I rewatched the trailer yesterday and realised how much the story changed in just one or two episodes. Maybe I was just naive, thinking it would be just aliens, negotiations and cool technology.
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>>158849196
I don't have a problem with the render, it's the design I have a problem with. No responsible hairdresser would look at such a disaster and say "yeah, I did a good job".
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>>158849196
I'm glad that this isn't being done by Polygon, they made the CG, jarring, unnatural and somehow empty without warmth.
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>show went to shit
>stream for the new episode finally works good after weeks of lag
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>>158849407
irony
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Regarding the self: physical continuity, psychological continuity, dualism, or other; and, do you recognize the problems of each of these schemas of the self?
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>>158849407
There's a good side to everything, even to a show turning shit.
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>>158849455
More like direct consequence
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starting huhuhu
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>>158849568
I'm scared
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>>158849609
Oh come on, how much worse can it get. Besides >>158844344
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>>158849630
Where'd they get the clothes from???
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>>158849646
Anon, she's anisotropic.
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>>158849667

But didn't she take his shirt before
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>>158849688
:3
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>>158849701
WHAT IS HAPPENING
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A team of heroes gathered to beat the evil guy!
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>>158849688
Different shirt, too.
>>158849720
I'm so confused
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>>158849712
I think I got it. Tsukai group vs Yahakui group.
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>>158849712
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>koushou
YES
YES
GOOD END
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>>158849742
Does...does he have a harem now? I can't watch the stream right now
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So Shindo clones are treated like puppets without proper thinking in the story now? They really feel dull compared to Shindo from past episodes.
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>>158849723
But... but zaShunina isn't even evil
God, no more suffering, please
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>>158849780
He can copy his biology but not his personality, I guess.
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>>158849742
> 40D girl and her new 3D anime boy toy
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>>158849825
So they are building a weapon.
I still hope it comes to talking zaShunina down.
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>that kissu
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>>158849852
HAHAHAHA
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DROPPED
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>>158849852
Oh well. I gave up being mad a long time ago.
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>>158849852
Is there any build-up at least
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AHAHAAH that costume!
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>>158849846
> A weapon to surpass Kado Gear
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>>158849852
Sorry fujos, but I wanted this moment.
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I wish the turn this show took wasn't leaving me so bewildered. I can't shake the feeling that something truly odd has happened.
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>>158849852
Kek.
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>>158849883
Fujos aren't even surprised or angry any more. All we hope for at this point is a non-suffering end for Yaha-kui.
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>>158849898
> truly odd
But it's perfectly normal for boys to love girls and girls to love boys. Anything else defies the natural order.
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>>158849917
>dat boob outline
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>>158849930
Slut.
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>>158849919
I don't care about him desu
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Did the writers honestly expect us to root for the ningens to destroy zaShunina when they spent such a long time endearing him to us?
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>>158849919
It's okay to cry, fujotachi.
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>>158849945
Then why are you still watching this?
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what did zashunina do to deserve getting annihilated by super lazer beam? they didn't even try to talk with him

>>158849917
what the fuck is this
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>>158849954
You're supposed to feel shocked at the seeming betrayal, or rather the gulf in understanding between the truly alien and the human self. Perhaps the idea is not that you are rooting for anyone, but you see this as the inevitable result of irreconcilability.
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>>158849974
I have no idea what's going on, but I'm laughing
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>>158849984
Because I want to finish it. It's not a one-man show, you know.
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>>158844281
>I just don't know anymore
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>>158850001
We /Kylo Ren/?
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>>158844281
>I'm so fucked up.
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>>158849883
It's okay anon, it wasn't that bad even for me.
If anything Shindo changing ties was more of a blow.
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>>158850001
>"STOP BREAKING MY HOUSE!"
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>>158850001
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>>158850010

But they didn't even truly try to reconcile

There was not nearly enough negotiating for an anime with a supposedly top negotiator MC

Also Shindo looks like he's going through his midlife crisis now
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>hanasou ka, zaShunina
>aitakata, Shindo
HNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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>>158850047
The sperm to fertilise zaShunina's ovum
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>>158850051
This makes me mad. And I was calm when the kiss happened. Fuck.
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>>158850047

F
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>>158850047
Well that was inevitable.
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>>158850061
How do you negotiate when what your opponent wants is entirely mutually exclusive with what you want?
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>>158850047
Shit there's blood in here
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Holy shit the trailer? This is "Narutooooo" "Sasukeeee" tier, god damn!
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Holy shit that preview
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>>158850051
Tsukai is so good.
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>>158850087

Things look a bit too silly at this point. If they were going for Tsukai endgame from the start they should have spent the previous episodes developing her instead of the ayylien.
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>>158850109
> Mutually exclusive
All he wanted was data, anon. Why was that too much to ask.
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>>158850131
That's not blood though
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>>158850135
I was relieved when Shindo talked about negociating but the trailer and the mahou shojo tanktop made the alarm bells rings in my head.
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>>158850142
Happiness, despair, and finally, anger.
He's officially gone through the spectrum.
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Incoming.
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>>158850152
You becoming data means giving up your sense of self, anon. If the idea of death is at the very least discomfiting and something to avoid for you, then losing your sense of self and becoming 37D should be even more so.
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>>158850175
that face, though
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Is it me or did things start getting crazy (in a bad way) after the recap episode?
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It really went the trainwreck route, huh
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All of this feels so wrong. What the fuck happened to this show?
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>>158850109

The show itself isn't very concerned with those questions at this point
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>>158849852
>THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF FUJOSHI
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>>158850025
But zaShunina is an appealing character
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>>158850201
There's millions of autists who would happily join him willingly. They will never have that chance now.
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>You can't say it's not a trainwreck without being called a fujoshit

It'd be like if Childhood's End turned into a romance half way through and became about driving the aliens out the moment they revealed their true form
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>>158850228
Like I said, load the train with fireworks.
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>>158850228
>>158850229
I actually got the feeling it got back on rails with this episode. Shindo's objective is to negociate with zaShunina. He wants to give him what he wants, and he thinks that he wants to be surprised. It makes sense.
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>>158850286
They're loading the train all right, but it definitely isn't fireworks
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>>158850109
By showing him that what he wants isn't what he needs. Which is exactly what Shindo is about to do.
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>>158850330
Then we're on the right track.
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>>158850367
>NARUTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>SASUKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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So reincarnation end imminent?
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>>158849738
>>158849742
What does Hanamori do?
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>>158850338
We Eva now?
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>>158850261
I don't know if millions of autists should be making the decision for billions of people.
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We evul gay albino aylien nao?
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>>158850367
>ends with a cooldown hug
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Kado : The Shit Answer
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>>158850385
They make it for themselves. The anisotropic has enough processing power to know who wants it and who doesn't. zaShunina just needs to rapture all the fags and be on his merry way.
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>>158850379
We don't know. He's part of some kind of plan.
I'm curious as to what kind of plan Tsukai would be on board with but Hanamori would cry his eyes out over though. I felt really bad for him.
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zaShunina is going to react irrationally to Shindo's negotation because muh newly developed human feelings and they're going to violently eject him from the earth using super lazer
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>>158850338
I hope ZaShunina cries while trying to choke him.

ZaShunina really should cry.
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I'm at work but losing my mind. Is Shindo actually trying to destroy zaShu? Has he actually committed to Tsukai, like lovers? What the fuuuu-
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I want to have a discussion without the Tsukai fags or fujos picking sides and have a honest and open discussion and negotiation on exactly what the fuck happened to this series. This was suppose to be about a alien who comes down, visits humanity, drops new tech, helps humanity, gets into earths affairs, and he just happened to make a friend along the way.
Exactly what was the need to make zaShunina the bad guy and throw random romance in here?
I really, really want to know why this is a thing, because Kado started off being fucking amazing 10/10 to me and I thought it was going to be a thought provoking and super serious show.
why is this happening
i honestly, unironically, and truly want to know.
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>>158850367
>KASUMAAAAAAAAAAAA
>RYUUHOOOOOOOOOOO
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Up on horrible guys. Early for once
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>>158850464
Becuase cuckery
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>>158850460
Nah see >>158850299
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>>158850464
>what the fuck happened to this series
Tsukai happened.
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>>158850338

zaShunina must be demanding Shindou to give his peace of mind back, like it's something material, as the anisotropic probably has no clue about feelings
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>>158850428
If zaShunina thought he could get away with just a fraction of humanity, he would have acted in accordance with that. Clearly his 40D math tells differently.
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> The answer all along was to marry and reproduce
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>>158850464
Some producer probably wanted to make it more marketable or something.
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Kado caressing zaShunina's cheek as if to try and comfort him ended me.
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>>158850464

I'm in the same boat, although at one point I thought they would go for an ambiguous ending with Shindo and zaShu in Kado. At first I did think Tsukai might be a potential love interest but as the show developed I never thought that they would take that route, and in such an extremely cliched and underdeveloped manner. This love story has been done many times in every medium

It feels like I'm watching an entirely different show now. I picked up Kado because its philosophical musings were fun and unique for an anime, and the threads were similarly fun to participate in
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>>158850464
How is that thought provoking? What was originally stroking was that the theme and subject matter deliberate broached and discussed the problem of the epistemology of communication, which itself leads to questions regarding the self and the truly alien Other. In the middle it dipped into the still interesting but somewhat less metaphysical themes regarding moral responsibility for unintended consequences, but that was just a means to get back to the underlying theme. That's the road we're on now.
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>>158850508

I'm wondering if this is some weird punishment on fujos. Like, homo is the wrong answer? I've never been bait-and-switched harder in my life. For a show that has had a hard enough time getting interest because of 3D, I'm not sure why they felt the need to attract and then piss off so many people. Four weeks ago I was looking into buying the blue rays. Now? No fucking way.
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You can't tell.me that dissatisfaction with the direction the show is going is not at least 80% fujo butthurt.
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>>158850509
I like this. It should lead to ZaShunina crying and Shindo realizing that he poisoned this being and developing a laser to kill it was the wrong answer. Then this >>158850403.
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Well at least I'll get a last negotiation
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>>158850763

I'm not butthurt, I've been buttblasted.
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>>158850763
Tsukai has always been important based on the OP animation.
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>I'VE MISSED YOU SHINDO
za confirmed cuck
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>>158850763
You can't tell me that people who enjoyed episode 0 and 1 couldn't have hoped for a thought-provoking show that stays firmly rooted in politics and scifi without any romance or magical girl bullshit.
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> This entire sequence of events
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>>158850464
Nah it's not just fujos, the ones watching it for "intellectual" scifi got vocally BTFOd last couple of weeks too.

Anyway, the author wrote it ending first, so you should be asking what happened to the beginning of the series.
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>>158850763
When shit like this >>158850367 is about to happen, my fujo self is the least mad part of me that exists.
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Is zaShunina about to be Orson Krennic'd?
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>>158850763

I'm not a fujo but I think the entire Tsukai plotline ruined the show. She is poorly developed as a character, a poor fit for the broader themes of the show (the human "conservative" girl is not human) and there were A LOT of ways the show could have shoehorned her as a love interest that didn't involve a magical transformation, a kissu, kyaaah, taking his shirt for no reason etc.
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>>158850367
S-so fast!
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>>158850679
This show has never targeted the Fujos though. They were only watching like they watch the other shows, and I've never seen them get crazy like they do on many other series. I don't know who this show was targeting in fact. It looks to me like they needed more than the sci-fi fans they understood needed more than this to buy the future DVDs and redirected their plot to target the much wider 'het' audience.
It looks to me that they lost everyone instead, as Tsukai isn't even a likeable character and was barely built/developed.
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>>158850553

You joke but for the last two episodes all I've been thinking about is Japan's falling reproduction rates
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>>158849780
Fuck that's lazy and breaks the fucking worldbuilding. If this is true I'm more butthurt by this than mahou shoujo lazers.
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>>158850763
>show about politics, aliens and shit
>suddenly mahou shoujo transformations and romance by the end of it
>hurr fujos are butthurt
My little anon can't be this dumb
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>>158850823
You can't talk.abiut the self and communication without actually talking about humans and what humans do, which is, namely, love one another. And you aren't giving Tsukai nearly enough depth--is your problem that she is also an anisotropic being? Consider this, then: she's seen through all of life, all of the nasty and horrible things that both nature and man can do, and she still loves humanity and the universe. It's seems so absurd on its face that such a long lived being can not only find even mundane things novel, but that she can love it despite all its faults, but she does. That demonstrates a depth that I think people are not considering.
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>>158850885
Very fast Shindou negotiating etc.
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All the fallen Shindos look like sperm against zaShunina's egg and the design of the anti fregonics looks like the corpus spongiosum and corpus cavernosum of a penis
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>>158850853

I'm a sci-fi fag and I feel butthurt

People were wanking all over the author about his books in these threads. I know it's stupid but I feel cheated
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It amazing how an underdeveloped character can drag a story down.
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>Hanamori missed Tsukai more than anyone else did
>Hanamori gets a comic relief butt wiggle while Tsukai and her boytoy watch
Where is the justice
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At least it was better than episode 10.
We're guaranteed negotiations, so that's a plus.
I'm still expecting reincarnation end, though, which is not a good feeling.
Also, Jesus Fuck, Kado paper-shredder. I feel bad for the Shindo clone.
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>>158850938
>anisotropic being thinks humans make a jolly good ant farm
Wow, such depth
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Let me put it this way: Tsukai set the initial conditions, came down to watch over us, knows and has experienced all of the worst things humanity has to offer, and still loves us. Narratvely and emotionally speaking, the attraction to Tsukai is the attraction to something like God.
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How are nips reacting
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So let's see:

Het fans indifferent because Tsukai is a shit character
Sci-fi adepts turning their back on the show because 90% of it was wasted
Fujos already getting back to all the other threads like this show never existed
Hetfags only here to shitpost and laugh at all the others

This show is going to be the fastest forgotten in whole /a/'s history.
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>>158851022
That's literally zaShunina.
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>>158851019
>Kado paper shredder
A metaphor for the quality of this show
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>>158850464
Because it was meant to be two cour haha. They needed to focus on the three main characters but for episode 1 to 7 I felt Tsukai was a secondary character which she clearly isn't. If she had been developed properly and interacted more with Shindo I would be perfectly okay with the realationship but this feels rushed and frankly, unrealistic...which is how this anime feels right now. The pacing we've got reminds me of Charlotte.
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>>158851085
You take that back.
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How long will it take for an angry virgin to console command earth into the sun with the nanomis heim?

> cosmic tier trolling
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>>158850958
Apparenly the author's boner is for girls with zaShunina's personality, not Tsukai's. Looks like he can't function after turning his waifu into a dude and replacing her with another girl.
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>>158851066
Tsukai is literally no different, but becuase she's been watching for a lot longer and doesn't want to add anything new to the farm, she's the good guy.
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>>158851114
Both shows are decent but the pacing prevented them from being great.
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>>158850938
No, there's nothing demonstrated here. She is too bland to imagine the half of what you're describing.
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>>158851123
This is so boring though, where's the fun in knowing what route his stories will take? Generally speaking, because Kado's development is crap right now anyway.
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>A weapon to negotiate with an anisotropic being
NEGOTIATION AT GUNPOINT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE
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>>158851012
You meant Shindo?
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>>158850938

It's not depth. It's just poorly thought out. She's either a human otaku or a fucking sociopath by human standards. All the death and suffering and famine doesn't bother her. So she either approaches humans like zaShunina does (ant farm) or she truly adores them, completely unbothered by the endless suffering humanity has gone through these past five years alone. Not to mention that we can be wiped out within the blink of an eye. She should have stayed human if she was going to be an actual love interest.

zaShunina's fascination is understandable because he's clearly after data - he doesn't do things out of a reverence for humanity like Tsukai supposedly does. He likes Shindo because he's special.
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>>158850958

My nerdass picked the show up since 0 when the Shindo/Hana team negotiated the repartnering of a metal fabricator and the government. I would have still watched the show even if fantasy elements weren't introduced. I mean, we got a believable depiction of the UN, has that ever happened in the Japanese-circlejerk of anime? So I'm completely salty that no one outside of the main characters has even been mentioned throughout the last 40% of the show. It presented itself as something that it definitely is not.
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>>158851042
If she a goddess then she's a terrible goddess. Considering how much suffering humans go through throughout history.
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Migrate
>>158851245
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>>158851203

We only have word of mouth about his works though. It's not like anyone in these threads actually read them. I agree with you on Kado's current status.
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>>158850958
I'm a fujo and I feel indifferent. It's not like we were promised anything, and now that I have YOI, all the rest is just anecdotal. It looked interesting like any japanese sci-fi attempts are, but now, more than the shallow yaoi bait, what looks like a total waste is the overall plot itself. Hell, I've seen and liked a lot of other non-yaoi/fujo pandering shows, but this one was a waste of time.
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If Tsukai was going to the heroine, they should have cut out Shindo and made her the MC.
>would have to make her competent
>would have to give her development
>would give her more nuance as she negotiates with zaShunina
>the reveal that the MC was god all along would be a much better mindfuck
>reverse harems aren't as cancerous as harems
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>>158851209
Negotiation can only happen from a position of respect. Otherwise it's a one sided demand. Weapons are important for a fair exchange just like anything else.
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>>158851209
Reminds me of those prisoners on death row who """consented""" to give up their kidneys.
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>>158849974
That was legitimately horrifying. The paper-shredder noises and Natsume's reaction actually made me shudder.
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>>158851265
I think there was one anon who'd read them, he even translated some passages.
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>>158851265
At least one anon said they read at least one, but I don't remember which.
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>>158851065
Basically yeah. I also agree with >>158850899
I have never been more disappointed in a anime in my entire life, I believe. And I've been here for every trainwreck or epic twist or shitshow there's ever been, and I really don't think anything has ever set my expectations up so high with the first few episodes only for them to be dragged down to nothingness. I truly am just fucking depressed.
It seems like this show started off great, with a intended target, and then it just sputtered and died and now we got your typical good vs evil.
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>>158850899
>This show has never targeted the Fujos though.
Maybe not, but the marketing sure was.
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>>158851218
So in hindsight, was episode 0 the best episode?
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>>158851326

I'm genuinely angry about this show. I don't think I've been this angry since Code Geass S2. It's even funnier because Kado isn't even that popular. I feel like it brought my hopes up about being a unique sci-fi anime and then sucker punched me.
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>>158850899
It totally target fujo. Zanina design is textbook fujo design.
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>>158851399
Pretty much. Episode 1 was ok too.
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>"More information that he can process"
>"Basically we need to surprise him and overload his emotions."
Appealing to emotions is a good direction. I'm guessing a Haruhi-style surprise, but maybe with a hug instead of a kiss, because we already know how afraid this show is of the homo now.
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>>158851360
Any more than any other show with bishounen characters? I remember anon said that pic related was from a wedding themed issue of a fujomag where all the male characters were posing in wedding outfits.
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>that kyaaaa at the end
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>>158851423
What else did you expect?
How else would story with omnipotent, alien being end like?
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>>158851423
Yep. I completely feel the same. And here I am having preordered the bd boxset, the space jesus statue, and the book and other shit.
I'm probably just gonna cancel the expensive as fuck BD box set and book and just keep my space jesus statue. Because at the very least, I will not let this show ruin zaShunina for me.
He's still a very good character, and I feel like the authors betrayed him.
I however will still praise my sad ayylien overlord. He deserves somebody who he can trust.
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>>158849852
>kicking dead fujos
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The last time I was this disappointed in a piece of scifi and fantasy it was because the retarded author wrote about the fact that this girl had a tight vagina in a book and inserted it into 90% of the fucking fantasy book about politics, suffering and colour magic.
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>>158851399
Would have watched that with pleasure. This is just pain.
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>>158851467

For what it's worth, before it started airing, merch of this show was all over animate in the aisles targeted at women, mostly stuff with zaShunina
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Did any anime ever succeed at being what Kado originally tried to be?
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>>158851513
>the retarded author wrote about the fact that this girl had a tight vagina in a book and inserted it into 90% of the fucking fantasy book about politics, suffering and colour magic.
That's how you know the author is a man; breast size and vagina elasticity are considered essential information when describing a female character.
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I think I need to read at least half a dozen classic sci-fi books I haven't touched yet to wash away this dirty feeling.
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>Anisotropic being
>Literally gods
>Literally only a love interest and a fucking cliche one at that

Wow, I hope they fucking kill her.
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>>158851564
I have a old copy of the tale of genji around here somewhere I never read yet. I kinda want to read it and feel close to zaShunina.
I need a gif of him rocking in that chair from this episode, because it was the saddest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life and exactly how I feel.
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>>158851513
> the retarded author wrote about the fact that this girl had a tight vagina in a book and inserted it into 90% of the fucking fantasy book about politics, suffering and colour magic.

It was a male hetfag, wasn't it? Male hetfags can be worse than the scummiest fujoshits.
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>>158851445
There is at least an equivalent of him in practically any anime. It didn't target the fujos, it 'optionally' targeted the fujos too.
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>>158851557
He wrote an excrutiatingly long post note on how vaginal tenesmus was real.
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>>158851510
Hu, but I'm not dead?
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This episode was way better than the last one. Why are people acting like it was worse?
If anything, this episode makes me optimistic for the ending.
provided they don't go the reincarnation route, which still seems ominously probable.
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Is this the biggest disappointment of the season?
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I want a webm of the PM's face right before they got sucked in to the Kado
It was at that moment, that he knew he had fucked up.
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>Shindou's lack of reaction when he knows about his clone(s)
>Hanamori is suddenly friends with Tsukai
>Tsukai's lack of proper development and backstory crammed in half an episode
>next to no external reaction to zaShunina's appearance
>zaShunina's sudden yandere switch
>that romance subplot
>the mass-media angle is gone

You can tell this was cut in half.
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>>158851497
That's why I never buy anything related to original shows before they finish.
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>>158851670
>>zaShunina's sudden yandere switch
>sudden
No. Fuck off with your retarded bullshit.
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>>158851631
That's some next level autism.
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>>158851664
There's nothing they could have done anyway if zaShunina had tried this from the beginning
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>>158851631
Did he also think that the hymen is an internal barrier that breaks when girls have sex for the first time?
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>"A dream?"
WHAT DID IT MEAN
And since when did zaShunina need to sleep?
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>>158851774
No.
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I had nearly forgotten this show was by TOEI.
FUCKING TOEI. AGAIN.
It had to be turn into utter shit.
There is someone who loves to destroy plots and characters with retarded ideas there.
There must be.
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>>158851399

Absolutely!
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>>158851811
You better stop questioning the show.
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>cries
>Shindo, you idiot!

Not skipping any boxes on the tsundere love interest checklist eyy
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>>158851811
His body is biologically human. He can sleep if he wants to, just like Shindo.
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>>158851811
Part of that dream sure did look like sperm fertilizing an egg.
The beginning part (when the pillar breaks) also might have been foreshadowing zaShunina's death.
You know what that means.
Reincarnation end.
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