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People really think the tournament arc in this is even top 5

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People really think the tournament arc in this is even top 5 in the battle shounen genre?

Goddamn
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I can see why anime only fans might say it but I think it might be the weakest part in the manga possibly.
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>>158768584
I would say it's legitimately one of the worst done tournament arcs in shounen manga. Like, the whole Todoroki Deku fight that people jizzed over when it came out is the most generic nonsensical "MC changes the perception of his enemy by saying basic shit" I've ever seen. There's no pacing or buildup and it doesn't even make any sense. If Deku saying that garbage is able to effect Todoroki at all him being so hung up so many years after the event in the first place is ridiculous.
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>>158768762
>most generic nonsensical "MC changes the perception of his enemy by saying basic shit"
>enemy
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The shit pacing of the anime is what kills it.
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>>158768785
Yes, enemy, as in opponent, in the fucking fight. Fucking kys bokufaggot, and don't reply to me again.
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It is ok-tier but better still better than others
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>>158768803
>>158768762
>pacing

I love this meme
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>>158768536
Where is your argument?
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>>158768762
Except Todoroki didn't make up his mind after Izuku's talk, it only triggered his need to take his life back into his hands.

To answer your first question, this tournament arc isn't really one. Its point wasn't to expose every character and see who is the strongest, it just served as a setting for Izuku to realise he can't keep hurting himself and for Todoroki to get over his ego. If you didn't get that I see how you wouldn't like it
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>>158769036
A battle tournament arc loses points immediately for not having any real stakes involved for losing
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>>158769086
Says the self-proclaimed anime expert?
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>>158768584
Fuck off tripshit
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>>158769086
That's a statement, not an argument.
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>>158769086
>battle tournment
>stakes

The whole fucking point of tournament arcs is that its the only time you can see the MC lose and suffer no consequences from it.
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>>158769137
Ask yourself

Seeing people push to their absolute limits or people just doing whatever, whats more entertaining to you?
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>>158769198
Again, where is your argument?
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>>158769184
You see battle tournament arcs are not only about the MC. Other characters participate and it's enjoyable to see characters pushing their 100% knowing if they lose they're absolute fucked ( some expulsion bullshit) or literally die.
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>>158769198
One of the best tournament arcs wasn't even about stakes it was a lesson that set the groundwork for the entire fucking franchise and what shaped Goku's character.
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>>158769293
When has that ever been the case in a battle shounen tournament? Are you perhaps confusing genres?
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>>158769330
Just ignore this retard, he saw something was popular and instead of finding out why for himself he figured he'd make a "heh nothen personnal kiddo" thread to show off his superior knowledge.
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>almost nothing happened in first season
>second season is a tournament arc where all the interesting characters job and the boring characters win
It's honestly the least interesting shounen I've seen next to Fairy Tail
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>>158769395
>anime-only baby
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>>158769364
He's just going to bring up Dark Tournament again despite the fact the the bulk majority of the fights were boring as shit because you knew the protagonists couldn't fucking lose or else they would be dead and that people ONLy gave a shit about the drama with Togoro instead because that was the only highlight.
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>>158769330
>best tournament arc
>DB trash

Battle stadium in flame of recca is the all time goat
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>>158769482
>flame of recca
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>>158769330
>implying cell games isn't the best

Wew
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>>158769482
>flame of recca
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Lets just agree that this whole tournament was the biggest pile of trash,
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The forest test in naruto was a lot more entertaining than the chunin exams and yet people still hype the latter
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>>158769514
>Cell Games
>good

While I liked the Cell arc as a whole the actual Cell Games wasn't really a tournament more like Cell trying to show off his new found abilities and then get rekt'd by Gohan in the process.
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>>158769543
Not sure why Oda even bothered with a tournament arc, it's clearly not his forte.
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>>158769546
I never got why there was a tournament after you went through that forest to begin with. Seems like a waste of time.
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>>158769514

Nothing after Namek is good.
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>>158769546
Most tournament arcs are generally poorly written and contrived with a few standouts here and there.

What anime-only MHA fags aren't getting is that the tournament arc isn't the highlight of this season; it's purpose is to set a steep contrast against the Stain Arc and the reality of the job these characters are training for.
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>>158769590
Too many people passed the forest test so thet did it to cut the fat or that was the in universe explanation for itml.
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The tournament arc in Naruto and HxH were better
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>>158768536
Doing a top 5 of shounen tournament arcs is like doing a top 5 of animal feces.
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>>158769086
One of the major points of the tournament is that doing well / showing off makes you more likely to be scouted for field work with actual heroes. Getting the shit kicked out of you is penalized by getting less attention and possible training from Heroes.
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>>158768536
Show me a post that said that.
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My favorite tournament arc
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>>158769546
>"Chunin exams were so great"
>People literally just mean Gaara vs Rock Lee
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>>158769514
> implying cell games was a tournament

well.. no
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>>158769586
it introduced and made clear the power levels of soon to be mugiwara allies
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>>158770925
and Naruto vs Neji
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>>158770925
>People literally just mean Gaara vs Rock Lee
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>>158770925
> "I didn't watch the Naruto Chunin exams"
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Does Yu Yu Hakusho count having a Tournament arc or is it a Tournament show in it's entirety
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nowhere near the best, the smaller fights should've been seen, and the tournament itself could've been better done

>>158768762
Todoroki didn't just change like that, he said it himself he forgot about it for a while
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>the biggest fight was a guy shooting ice and then the other flicking it away for 10 minutes until the final part where the fag finally used his flames for one single final flashy attack and match over

Wew, the fight with the 2 guys who have similar hardening power was more interesting
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>>158771201
They had an arc that wasn't a tournament in between the the three tournament arcs.
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>>158771460
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>Another "It's popular, so I must shit on it" thread.
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The manga is just generic trash in general. Shounentards just have no standards and /a/ has turned into a shitshow with it's naruto generals.
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>>158768536
i like how it did everything naruto didnt during chunnin exams
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the best tournament arc is obviously the Foxy arc in One Piece
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>>158769543
I don't think that counts.
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>>158770925
I find it funny how people say Chunin exams was the only good part of Naruto when it's just a far inferior alternative to the Hunter exam arc.
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The introduction of the Fukamichi Rankings was the greatest tournament arc ever.
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>>158768584
The fight between Todoroki and Deku was greatly done in the anime but besides that scene, I was bored the entire arc. So far MHA anime wise isn't the worst shonen out there but it's far from the best.
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Negima has the best tournament arc.
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>>158774619
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>>158768762
Way to miss the point dumbfuck. It was the sight of seeing Deku literally killing himself to keep up with Icefag and yet cheering him on to become a hero that did it.
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>>158768536
>wow, it's almost as if people who wanted to watch a high school SoL got exactly what they wanted
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>>158769543
I like it, but I can see why people mostly wouldn't it. that part of the arc is better for binge reading and not weekly release.
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>>158770925
Doesn't that good for every Tournament arc?
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>>158769586
He probably wanted to try out a tournament arc. We got some good things like the Straw Hat Grand Fleet. We got bad things, like Rebecca who is the worst character in One Piece.
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Name 5 superior tournament arcs.
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>>158775916
Jackie Chan
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I think the tournament arc is the worst one in the whole series actually.
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>>158776038
>Worst than License Exam
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>>158776269
I think most people forgot that arc exists despite it being one arc ago, its been completely overshadowed by the arcs that came before and after it.
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>>158775916
Maximum Tournament and Raitai from Baki, Hunter exam from HxH, all three tournaments from Yu Yu Hakusho, Kengan tournament from Kengan Ashura, most of the Budokais in Dragonball, Hyper Battle in Tough, and the Shaman Fight in Shaman King. That's just what I can think of quickly, there's a lot more.
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>>158776383
Yeah I did actually.
That arc sucked.
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>>158776457
How many of those end with the MC winning?
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>>158775152
>Way to miss the point dumbfuck.
>misses the point

HAfags really are as stupid as Narutofags.
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>people are saying it's one of the worst arcs
>tfw really enjoyed the tournament arc
I'm excited for what's to come now
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>>158776457
Hunter exam was only great because of all those anti-climaxes.
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What did Bleach have?
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>>158776652
Filler
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>>158776652
Bleach, for what it's worth, never had to rely on a tournament arc. Never really understood the comparison to YYH for this reason.
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>>158776559
Oh now you've got to add other qualifiers to it. You got me, only 3 of those end with the MC losing and one is still in progress.
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>>158776457
>Hunter exam from HxH, all three tournaments from Yu Yu Hakusho
>Hyper Battle in Tough, and the Shaman Fight in Shaman King
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>>158776797
>Never really understood the comparison to YYH for this reason.

Yeah because it missing a trope means all the rest is invalid right.
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>>158771478
>Actual detective work/4 Saint Beast
>Dark Tournament
>Gay bois get powers
>Sensui
>Three Kings """"""Tournament""""""

There were only two tournaments in the anime, and the final tournament was barely one at all, almost as pointless as being called a Tournament as the Cell Games were.
>>158772210
But it's not great. It's okay, at best, but people are treating BHA like it's the next DBZ or YYH, and it's not remotely close to that and likely never will be.

That moniker goes to Fairy Tail
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>>158776457
>Hunter exam from HxH
Ant-climaxes, anti-climaxes everywhere
> all three tournaments from Yu Yu Hakusho
Out of all of them only one had a memorable fight and the last one was outright skipped in the manga and was boring as fuck in the anime
>Kengan tournament
>Shaman Fight
Doesn't really count if the entire manga is centered around it also Shaman Fight sucked shit
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>>158776907
The rest of what, two rescue arcs and Chapter Black?
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>>158776949
>But it's not great. It's okay, at best
Says you right?
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Literally every arc except Waking Dragons and the last Egypt arc in the original YuGiOh is a tournament and they shit all over BHA.
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>>158777012
>Fairy Tail

I'm surprised you even replied.
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>>158773891
The hunter exam arc was shit though.

Literally only interesting event was getting tags off people
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>>158776949
>That moniker goes to Fairy Tail
Wut?
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>>158776949
I'm confused, are you saying Fairy Tail is the next DBZ/YYH or are you saying it only gets shit on because it's popular? Because both of those things are retarded
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>>158777038
>YuGiOh
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>158776949
There was short tournament arc at the start of YYH in order to get Genkai to train him. Even that is better than the Sports Festival.
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>>158776949
>That moniker goes to Fairy Tail
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>>158777038
YuGiOh isn't a battle shounen.
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>>158777055
In terms of character driven, shonen action. While most of the baddies fall to Natsu, almost every character is still important and actually contributes to the overall resolution. Like in YYH, where Yusuke takes center stage most times, all of his compatriots still have incredible fights and plenty of screen time.

Plus, Grand Magic Tournament is hype as fuck.
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Man this fandom went to the shitter after the anime adaptation.
Anime secondaries were a mistake.
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Its kinda cute seeing people try so hard to downplay MHA because its popular now.
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>>158777102
I totally forgot about that. It's fairly short, but I guess it counts.

But yeah, you right.
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>>158777163
Oh I get it I'm being trolled. Nevermind
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>>158777163
>unironically praising Fairy Tail
>2017

Thats it, I'm out.
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>>158768536
Eh? I'm a huge mha fag and this isn't a top-tier tournament arc by a long shot.

It's great for MHA's story and it's handled well IMO, but as far as a great tournament arc with combat? Hell no. The tournament part was literally just window dressing for the character development.

For actual tournament arcs with top to bottom great fights series like YYH, Tough, and more recently Kengan are all better.
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>>158768536
the fandom for this mediocre show on here is truly something. it's almost downright embarrassing to go into these threads when an episode airs. like all flavors of the month it's popularity will wane once they find some other mediocre shitfest to attach to.
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>>158777163
>Plus, Grand Magic Tournament is hype as fuck.

If you didn't drop the series at this point you are literally a masochist
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>>158777238
>>158777231
>Unironically liking MHA
I can do it too wow
>not adding to the discussion, just dismissal

Classic 4chin
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>>158777210
You probably forgot it because Togashi just did almost the same thing again but drawn out way too long for the Hunter exam in HxH.
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>>158769543
Dressrosa as a whole was a pretty shitty arc.
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>>158777281
>mfw people have been calling this flavor of the month for almost 3 years and still counting
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>>158777163
>Like in YYH, where Yusuke takes center stage most times, all of his compatriots still have incredible fights and plenty of screen time.
Kurama's and Kuwabara's fights were boring as fuck
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>>158777303
>I can do it too wow
Yeah but people won't take you seriously now, you gave yourself away
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>>158768536
To be honest, it's making me wanna drop the series entirely.

From the anime I have no desire to read the manga. Anime's gotta be good to get me to read ahead of it.
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>>158777300
Pic unrelated
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What's funny is that the Sports Festival isn't even the only "tournament arc" we'll be getting.

The last arc in the manga, the License Exam, was like a light tournament arc.
And I think I heard that most people hated it compared to the Sports Festival.

Also, there's actually faggots that WANT a second Sports Festival in the kids second year.
They literally want them to repeat shit.
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Agreed. I love me a good tournament arc but this was a huge let down. Each fight felt meaningless and was short as fuck. Haven't watched shounen in a while but what were some good tournament arcs? Yuyu Hakusho is the only thing that comes into mind. The OP tournament arc in Dressroas was also pretty disappointing
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>>158777430
>Also, there's actually faggots that WANT a second Sports Festival in the kids second year.
Hey Speedreader-kun there's a Sports Festival for second and third years as well with the last one having the Principal commandeering it.
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>>158768536
>Still no post where anyone has said this
Nice meme thread
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>>158768536
Not much competition
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>>158768536
I liked the tournament arc because usually in these arcs the whole point is to win
Deku's goal was originally to win it all but after hearing about Todoroki's problems, he decided that saving Tod was more important than making a name for himself
This is the whole point of the series, Deku is to remind people than Heroes need to save people not just become famous or try to look for rewards or profits
It shows how much of a hero Deku naturally is to save someone in their time of need instead of doing stuff for his own benefit, which is emphasized by the amount of trauma he puts his body through to try and help Tod
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>>158769077
>>158771237
this, it made him think about it but not change.

I mean people are overreacting still, but it was done well.
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>>158777586
Yeah yeah nobody cares about the motivation of the MC.

The actual general fights for most participants was boring as fuck. You don't watch UFC to care about the fighters motivation.
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>>158777506
That's not what I meant.
Of course there are Sports Festivals every year.
But there's no point in following the second year one with the pace things have been going at.

They're basically doing real hero work already and they're not even done with the first year.
Shit is going to escalate far beyond the second sports festival by the time we get to it.
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It depends on what you look for in tournament arcs.

If you like nothing but fights to be the focus then you won't like this but if you like character drama and development its pretty tops it also doesn't drag on for episodes on end. I think it takes cues from the first Budokai in Dragonball where in the end Goku lost but the experience impacted his character more so than any of the fights did before. Hunter exam doesn't have much in terms of character development or drama until the very end and the fights are nothing to sneeze at compared to everything else in the series, Dark Tournament is overrated since most of the battles not centered on Yusuke were boring as fuck and the crux which was Togoro's development didn't happen until the very end so everything in between was just to fill up time.
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>>158777790
>nobody cares about the motivation of the MC.

>Without attending the first tournament Goku would have never became the character he is today
>After being humiliated by Togoro Yusuke joins the tournament as a way to get back at him while also learning more about himself in the process
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>>158777790
Yeah man! I watched Dragonball to see the fight between Ran Fan and Nam
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>>158777505
Kengan Ashura is apparently getting an anime someday so you'll probably want to watch that if you love tournament arcs. Almost the entire manga is one giant tournament arc so far.
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>>158768536
Most BHA fans weren't even alive when something like Dragon Ball or Yu Yu Hakusho was airing.

That might contribute.
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>>158768762
How did he suddenly fix his trauma? It's not like todoroki even used his fire abilities in the next round. He didn't suddenly just get over things.

And the tournament arc wasnt meant to just be a payoff arc. Instead it was used to build more storylines for later. Deku's recklessness, birbs dark shadow, bakagou's need to prove himself, mom's self doubt and much more. The only payoff was Todorki.
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>>158778093
Yu Yu Hakusho was garbage and completely overshadowed by Hunter x Hunter in 1999/early 2000s. Only a small minority of Americans unironically thought YYH was better than HXH.
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>>158777924
It literally doesn't matter.

If the fight is good then that's what i care about in a battle tournament
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>>158778200
>Yu Yu Hakusho was garbage and completely overshadowed by Hunter x Hunter in 1999/early 2000s.
I think anyone who likes Togashi and knows him realizes that YYH was the inferior work because at least with HxH he knew exactly the type of story he was going to make from the get go and wasn't just making shit up to stay afloat.
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>the hot headed fag was the ONLY one to consistently use his quirk in varied ways against his opponents in the whole tournament

Literally how? Characters like him are supposed to be stupid.
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>>158778200
Debate over YYH or HxH being better all you want but
>Only a small minority of Americans unironically thought YYH was better than HXH
is absolutely delusional.
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>>158778284
Yes. It's like the people who think Hisoka ever could stand a chance against Chrollo in their fight when Hisoka was vastly outmatched by Chrollo, who was able to beat two Zoldicks in a fight.

Anyone that read the manga knew this but there was still a small group of people that thought Hisoka could hold his own against Chrollo.
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>>158778512
>who was able to beat two Zoldicks in a fight.

You're as retarded as the Hisocucks
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>>158769590
They basically wanted to show off how awesome their ninja were in a safe setting to get more jobs from the people who saw/heard of the stuff there, to see who among the young ninja were exceptional and worthy of getting promoted, and to scope out what kind of genin the other villages thought were worthy of being put out there.

They decided to have the written test, forest test and prelim tournament as a way see if there were people worth giving a promotion in the first place, to actually see who would be good to show off WITH, and because, as said, they had too many participants for the main tournament already
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>>158778565
??
Chrollo completely shut down both Zeno and Silva in a fight and neither of them were able to land a finger on him. You're the delusional one if you think Hisoka wouldn't have gotten immediately BTFO like he did in his fight with Chrollo if he was in the same position.

Imagine being as retarded as you, I don't think it's possible.
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>>158769518
>>158769509
is this a meme?
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>>158778712
Chrollo was on the run the entire time in a fight where nobody was taking it seriously. They were biding their time and gauging abilities until Illumi finished his mission then they left. Chrollo in no way beat them. But you're as delusional as the Hisocucks so it doesn't matter.
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>>158777790
>You don't watch UFC to care about the fighters motivation.
But I'm not watching UFC am I now? Go watch AMVs if that's the only thing that you value in a series.
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>>158778914
>loses argument
>d-delusional!!!!
every time
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way better than hxh and dbz tournaments. You can even argue against yyh.
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>>158779052
Yes Chrollofag we get it you're retarded.
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Even the OPM tournament arch was better lmao
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No it's not, the tournament arc is one of the most boring parts of the manga. Shit gets good after that.
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What i really like about the tournament arc is that it's not really a tournament arc.
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