It's out

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>>158761191

>>158761384
Why did Sebastian look so surprised when he saw the other Ciel?

>>158761555
you are barking to the wrong tree

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>>158761555
>>158761384
Theory around is that Real Ciel was the sacrifice used when Summoning Sebastian, so in theory he should not be alive. Sebastian took his soul

Now we can have Cielcest.

>>158761901
No


>>158761555
Most likely because as he told Ciel he ate his soul

>>158761191
Is this the last arc?

>Ciel means blue
The whole blue star shit was stupidly obvious

>Finny is the only one to notice something is different despite the fact that realCiel doesn't wear an eyepatch
Why are his servants so fucking stupid?

>>158762112
>>Finny is the only one to notice something is different despite the fact that realCiel doesn't wear an eyepatch
>Why are his servants so fucking stupid?
one is literally stupic muscle head and maido is blind

>>158762427
You'd think one of Snake's snakes would be intelligent enough

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Endgame right here brothers

>>158762472
they are snakes

>>158761191
It's been a while since I read this, but hasn't it been years since the series started? Why does Ciel still look like a shota? Doesn't he age?

>>158763349
The Ciel you know is an impostor (a twin or a body double), this is the real one, most likely a really convincing undead.

>>158763387
what if Ciel were twins but cause Aristocrats 1 was kept hidden??

>>158763387
Yeah but they're human, right? Why doesn't he age?

>>158763510
he dead bro

>>158762112
Ciel means sky, not blue.

>Hate "there was a twin all along!!11" developments
>Despise mistaken identity drama, and the addition of Curry's personal vendetta isn't helping
>Loathe the predicable general development of Ciel breaking yet again > all is lost > wait no he's stronger than he looks > everything is k... for now


And yet this chapter and the reveal were fucking amazing. How does this manga do it? It has everything I hate in the medium but I fucking love it.

Why is the Viscount th ebest part of this manga?


>>158763675
I agree it has nothing that really interested me yet I enjoy it for some reason

I don't get why it was revealed NOW of all times.

>>158763349
Everything has taken place over around a year so far. And maybe other reasons

Is he going to cuck Ciel and take Sebastian?

>>158761191
Love this smug shit already

>>158762091
No.

>>158761555
>eat soul of sacrifice
>literally comes back and even remembers our Ciel's weak constitution
>as if nothing had happened

>>158766952
Original Ciel is going to drag sebby down with him

>>158761555
Undertaker must be stole real ciel soul during Voyage Arc

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>>158764378

>>158761555
Currently LAMOing @ your life my dude.

>>158764636
Hopefully not

>>158761555
Because he was dead, and it was implied his soul was the price for summoning Sebastian.

>>158763510
The plot has only been like a year or something.

>>158764378
There's been hints for like 10 years now. I'm not bothered that it's finally been shown.

>>158764636
He's far more likely to cuck Sebastian and take Ciel.

>>158764378
The movie just came out

So theres alot of hype for the series at the moment

can someone dumb this down A LOT for me? is there some twin/doppelganger nonsense, and did the undertaken manage to find the original's body and slip his soul back in?

>>158764636
Impossible, the contract was made to the living one.

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>>158771720
tl;dr: There's been subtle hints that Ciel had a twin brother who was the heir for a long time. This ranges from noted inconsistencies in Ciel's behavior (present vs the past, and past vs past), some dialogue, and flashbacks (some of which were assumed to be hallucinations). The Undertaker was really close to their family, and all the zombie/blood transfusion stuff seems to have led up to his reviving the brother or something.

Here's a good master list of all the hints: https://ddreamzone.wordpress.com/2017/04/22/the-two-ciel-theory-masterpost-kuroshitsuji/

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I like these two.

>>158772562
What's even their point in the story?

>>158772562
How likely is Soma x Sieglinde pairing?

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>>158772808
Side characters that support the MC in their respective roles as well as expanding the plot and building the world outside of Britain. Having a personal doctor opens up a lot of opportunities such as having medical insight, being able to save other characters and providing more character interaction so we can learn more about them. I think Sullivan and Wolfram are excellent additions to the cast.

>>158772905
So, a healslut?

>>158761932
>No
Yes and now neither will be virgins

>>158773148
Can /ourCiel/ be counted as a virgin if he had his penis touched by a girl?

>>158772808
They need a wacky scientist to match wits with the Undertakers crazy stolen future tech and revival abilities. It was she after all who discovered that the Undertaker was performing blood transfusions.

>>158772955

All healers are sluts so saying "healslut" is unnecessary.

>>158773400
Men can't be sluts

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>>158773463
>Men can't be sluts
Oh, my sweet summer child.

>>158774132
Boys and traps can be sluts, but not men.

so lizzy doesn't want to return because she has found out that our ciel is actually not the real one?

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So in this scene one of the Great stars calls himself a "Butler" and due his attachment to the Sirius Star which is most likely Ciel, do you think its a fake body version of Sebastion?

>>158774943
Why are there two speech clouds coming from the right door and then unite into one? Someone with personality disorder? Siamese twins?

>>158761191
i have always wanted to see orgy doujins involving shota.

>>158776086
>the inevitable shota twincest doujins

>>158777023
>the inevitable shota twin rape doujins

>>158774943
Or the old butler or even another demon. It would be a good excuse to bring Ciel's father back. I guess undertaker is trying to bring their mom from the dead tho

>>158773148
At least one of them got raped by faceless old men.

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>>158761191
Shit finally hits the fan. Next chapter Undertaker removes the mask revealing that he's actually Aizen.

What if new Ciel is actually Vincent?

>>158774943
Saw a distressingly convincing theory that it's Tanaka.

>>158780334
Why would Tanaka suck the real Ciel's dick too? For the same reason Lizzie does?

>>158780392
Because he's very loyal to the Phantomhive family and real Ciel = real heir, apart from just being part of the family in the first place.

>>158780230
Then Lizzie is being brainwashed so she can be the next Rachel.

>>158780230
This is highly unlikely. The new Ciel knows that the ring was cut out of his stomach (the whole candy from the tummy thing). Nobody other than "Ciel" or Sebastian knows about that. Even if it was Vincent's soul, somehow, he wouldn't know about that.

>>158780667
Ring out of stomach is still just a theory, right now.
That said, I'd like to think him being Vincent is unlikely.

Just to be sure, does everyone agree that new Ciel is the one who own the gun that was pointed at Soma?

>>158780839
Not sure. Was he the gunman or the one with the knife? Gunman seems more likely, but the message carved into the wall begs this question.

>>158780533
But fake Ciel is part of the family too.
I mean, I can see it happen.

>>158780712
It's a pretty solid theory though, with the soul record fragment of Sebastian asking about "getting the ring out" and how bloody "Ciel's" arm and the ring is in the flashback (meaning he probably did it himself).

>>158780839
It seems very likely, based on Soma's reaction to him and Ciel afterwards.
>>158780912
For the same reason as above, I doubt he was the knife user - and even as a zombie or whatever I doubt he could take out Agni. He could of just borrowed a knife or ordered the other to do it.
>>158780941
I get the feeling that whatever is going on, Ciel himself is probably not at risk of harm. We know that Undertaker wants to save him from Sebastian, and his brother was very protective of him and likely wants the same. I don't see any evidence for Tanaka being involved, but I could see why he'd get in on it.

>>158780941
Right, but it would make sense for Tanaka not to want to abandon the heir.
I'm not saying the theory is true by any means, but it's surprisingly plausible when everything is put together.

>>158781067
I agree it's solid, I'm just saying it's still only a theory for now.

>>158772808
MC harem expansion
additional shipperbait
the german reich arc wasn't too bad

>>158781222
Do you have any ideas on whom the knife user might be?

>>158780912
For me, new Ciel is the gunman cause when Soma saw him he hit him.
The man with the knife might be a guy from the music hall, in which case if Vincent is the new Ciel then he'd know about the carved message.

>>158781277
Honestly? Nope. I've seen people say it was Elizabeth, but she got her ass whooped by Sebastian. I doubt she could beat Agni, even with him taking a bullet for Soma, as he's someone Sebastian believes would be troublesome to fight. Agni commented on how abnormally strong/fast the knife user was, and he's superhumanly strong himself, and she never displayed that - just crazy sword skills.

>>158781431
>For me, new Ciel is the gunman cause when Soma saw him he hit him.
Probably, it just seems sketchy to me until I know the whole picture.

>in which case if Vincent is the new Ciel then he'd know about the carved message.
If neither the knife user nor Vincent-in-Ciel's-body are real Ciel, how would the message have been carved in the first place?
Vincent being in real Ciel is just plausible enough to worry me, but overall I don't think it will happen.

>>158781277
A new character, likely one of Stars or whatever, presumably a demon or some other supernatural being.

>>158781463
I agree it's unlikely to be her. I don't think it's Bravat, either, although I guess it could be possible. I don't know whether to expect that the knife user is some new faggot or what.

>>158781431
You'd think Souma would recognize his so called friend. Or at least notice that the new guy doesn't wear a fucking eye-patch.

>>158761191
When this became monthly it killed the interest

>>158762091
>>158766691
The hell do you mean no?

This is a monthly manga.

At its current rate we'll all be dead before it's finished if this isn't.

>>158781631
It was always monthly. It's been monthly for over ten years.

>>158781533
Anon, we know that there is 4 Stars. One of them is (real) Ciel, that leaves three more. Do you really think all of them are characters we already know?

I just want to know why, if he really is "Ciel's" brother, did they go after Agni/Soma? Or where they just unlucky collateral in the wrong place/wrong time? I've seen some people argue that he might be a bit of a wonky yandere due to his undead status, and that even as a kid real!Ciel was apparently get a creepy stare (the thing about fags).

Also, people are claiming "Ciel's" name is probably Astre, since it was the author's second favorite name for the character.

>>158781700
They seem to have been described as quite frail beforehand so there's not really much to go off of. It probably is some literally who, yes, but personally I think it's bad writing to gather a well-known cast together, introduce a character who has been hinted at basically since the beginning, and then alongside all that, drop a completely new rando in the middle of an attack personally directed at the main character.
Of course, Kuroshitsuji has never been known for its good writing, so I'm not disappointed so much as resigned to it. I was just mulling over possibilities.

>>158781690
Try Berserk sometime, then you'll get it.

>>158781802
>since it was the author's second favorite name for the character.
Is there a source on this? I've seen the "Astre" fan name but didn't know there was any actual basis for it.

>>158781607
It'd be pretty easy to slap on a fake eyepatch and just take it off later. The lack of Sebastian should of been more sketchy.

>>158781850
The Official Character Guide, has a initial sketch and a bunch of names of the character.

>>158781965
Nice, thanks.

>>158781809
And a bunch of previously known characters suddenly being revealed to be leaders of some weird cult would be a better writing to you?

Where are people getting the idea it's Vincent? Just from the line about "the Earth" that Undertaker drops?

>>158782114
No. As I said, I was mulling over possibilities. Such an innocuous thing to make you be defensive.

>>158782114
To be fair, the weird star cult thing seems like it was all set up by Undertaker to bring back the Phantomhives, since he's obsessed with them. There's plenty of characters who'd be interested in that.

>>158782152

The desperation of people who hated the 2 Ciel theory.

>>158782152
the Earl*

>>158782210
Yeah I've seen a lot of butthurt over the reveal, despite how relatively fleshed out 2CT has been

>>158780392
Where has Tanaka been these last few chapters? Last I checked he has been in full health. Cold be a body double of Tanaka with some stolen memories.

I'm still freaking out. The theory had been around for over 2 years or so? FUCK YES!

Do you think Soma will try to kill /ourCiel/ or will the misunderstanding be cleared before it?

>>158783964
realCiel and ourCiel will bond and reconcile at the end of this arc, but then Soma will appear and kill realCiel at the last moment.

>>158784316
>>158783964
Soma could just use his status as a prince to cause a serious political divide between the British Empire and Bengal.

>>158784733
>his status as a prince
Damn, I almost forgot that he is not a random Indian, but is actually a royalty himself. An assault at a prince does indeed sound like a major crime.

>>158775457
There was a child's room with sets of furniture iirc, so yeah twins.

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>>158781690
Could be worse, could be one volume of material every seven years in the middle of a multivolume arc that doesn't appear to be the finale.

Kuroshitsuji is doing alright for itself considering people are still reading.

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>>158774943
Bloody bandages for Canopus, twin girls are Vega, and the Polaris butler wrecked the shit out of his room.

>>158785623
imagine having sex in these bed rooms must be hot.

>>158785033
Think of it less as a major crime and more of a political earthquake that can jeopardise control of one of your major colonies

>>158785623
>Knives
Yeah, the butler was the knife user working for rCiel.