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I KNOW
I KNOW I LET YOU DOWN
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>>158678828
I'VE BEEN A FOOL TO MYSELF
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What the fuck did I just watch?
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Asuka loved Shinji and hated herself for that, but why didn't Shinji truly loved anyone ever? even tho he had friends that cared for him
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>>158679014
A post on /a/.
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>>158679014

The greatest shitfest known to man. Now go watch the Rebuilds so you can be disappointed like everyone else.
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>>158679043
Shinji had lack of selfsteem, lack of will power to make a change into others lives, too coward to break his own cycle of hurting.

And im not sure if i could say asuka LOVED shinji. She had "strong emotions" about him, thats for sure.
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>>158679043
This is just Shinji in a wig, right?
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>>158679043
If you watched 2.2 or 3.3 they make it a lot more apparent that she actually likes him. She competes with Rei for his attention. At one point Shinjis talking about how Rei was hurt and her hands were bandaged, next time you see Asuka, her hands are also bandaged.
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>>158679241
NGE, for all its animation quality, suffers horrendously from SameFace. Seriously, everyone is shinji with another hair cut.
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>>158679345
Whoops, meant for >>158679194
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>>158679345
I strongly dont consider the rebuilds canon, a spin off sequel at best. But yeah, she does have feelings about him.
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I THOUGHT THAT I COULD LIVE FOR NO ONE ELSE.
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>>158679426

I hope you're ready to be butthurt then.
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BUT NOW THROUGH ALL THE HURT AND PAIN
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>>158679555
You see, my reasoning is, i strongly doubt the rebuilds were planned since day 1 like the rest of the series and EoE. Its an "after-thought" sequel, with plenty of flaws. A spin off sequel that should never have been.
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>>158679555
pretty fucked version of groundhog day t b h

I still associate NGE and rebuilds as different entities though
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>>158679572
TS TIME FOR ME TO RESPECT!!!!

THE ONES YOU LOOOOVVVEEE MEAN MORE THAN ANYTHING¡!!!!!!!!!!
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>>158679752

>i strongly doubt the rebuilds were planned since day 1

Given the "preview" for 3.0 was nothing like the actual thing (and seemingly, the same is happening with the 4.0 preview), I'm pretty sure Anno has no idea what the fuck he's doing.

>A spin off sequel that should never have been.

The Rebuilds had some fucking fantastic action sequences compared to NGE and EoE.
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>>158679829
>MEAN
This fucking baka right here destroyed everything.
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>>158679043
Didn't he say he loved Kaworu?
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>>158679875
What the hell are you talking about those are the right lyrics.
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CHAAAAAAANSU
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>>158679946
Yeah, but thats because kaworu was "perfect".
Misato, Rei, Asuka, all had serious flaws that scared him. Shinji wasnt strong enough to handle it, to try to help his friends overcome the problems, so he abandoned them.

Kaworu had no apparent problem, and yet showed full affection for shinji. 100% reward for 0% effort, exactly what shinji wanted. Of course he "loves" kaworu.

On the other hand, i remember some anon saying once (not sure if his own opinion or if it had some proper source), but the very fact of not trying to "calm down kaworu, find out if his "fate/instinct" to destroy the world was or wasnt inevitable", was abandoning kaworu like he did to the others. Because he didnt had the fortitude to help anyone.
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>>158679014
nice meme
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>>158679873
>Evangelion
>Action sequences
I mean, they were cool, but they arent, by a long shot, the real meat of the show.
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IT ALL RETURNS TO NOTHING
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Guys, guys, hey guys... we are all a little bit Shinji on the inside...
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>>158680074
Whoops, my bad, senpai.
>love mean
Sounded so wrong. Carry on.
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>>158679555
>This time, at least, I will make you happy
>only makes Shinji even more depressed
what did they mean by this?
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>>158681037
Depression is the ultimate path to happiness. At some point you will be so depressed that you completely withdraw fom society and at that point, no one will make you suffer or depressed anymore because you don't interact with anyone anymore.
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>>158680776
>Silly glasses Rei
Not sure how to react.
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>>158681037
Kaworu isnt good at making plans. Too autistic.
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>>158679043
Because 10 years of Shinji's life was a continuous demonstration that he wasn't wanted anywhere and nobody cared what he did or what happened to him. He improves over his 6 months in Tokyo-3, where all his good memories come from, but it doesn't flip his whole brain before that last act of the story where all his nice things are taken away.
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>>158679555
It's pretty fucking obvious the Rebuilds are sequels: the children all learnt from their mistakes and their personalities shifted ever so slightly.

Compare Shinji crying for Asuka to save him in EoE, whereas in 3.33 he's trying to save everyone else.
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>>158681195
I want to behead the author of that doujin and shove his blood-dripping head up your ass
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>>158681129
You know it suits her.
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>>158681482
Nigga, calm down, its just porn.
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>>158679380
>everyone is shinji with another hair cut
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>>158681833
So yeah, everyone is nadia with another hair.
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>>158680423
Kaworu was the most suicidal cast member in the entire show
He was also miserable, but unlike the others he hid it behind a smile
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>>158679043
Shipfaggotry begone.
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>>158682348
Im not sure if the term "suicidal" is right, because i dont think he WANTS to die. He just thinks its the best alternative, the other being the destruction of humanity.

He was miserable, because he knew what he needed to do, but he also seemed to have accepted it. Your pic proves it. He smiling that scene isnt hiding it, its acceptance.

Too bad he had no idea how much he really was hurting shinji with that.
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Best girl coming through
>*gags*
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>>158679555
yeah this has way more reasons why it makes 0 sense at all and it's pretty obvious that they just changed how the second impact happened in rebuild
rebuild seems far more like a parallel reality just taking the same characters starting in the same situation and leading it in a different direction
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>>158682788
Crazy dyke.
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>>158682462
Love and relationship, specially the ones that dont work out, is a legit theme in Eva. Its more than clear that asuka had strong feelings for shinji around the middle of the series before it all went to shit.
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>>158681126
Is this logical?
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>>158683019
Not really, i think anon is just rambling about kaworu fucking up.
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>>158683019
It's sound Kaworu-logic. Life includes pain, death does not, so convincing people to kill themselves is net-positive happiness.
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>>158683554
I dont think eva is tragic. There is a lot of suffering, but it ends on a message that people can improve their own lives.

Nearly nothing that happened is irreversible, its all up for the characters to go ahead and try to be happy.
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>>158684176
>it ends on a message that people can improve their own lives.
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EoE is unironically a masterpiece.
Anno should just make 4.0 a remastered EoE and let it all to rest.
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>>158684214
Yeah, it does? It doesnt say it will WORK, but the last talk between shinji and yui is about TRYING.
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>>158684214
It is. The memes are twisting your perception of the actual show if you think EVA's ending is depressing. Both the show and EoE.
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Why did EoE need an intermission?
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>>158684268
Wait... It isn't going to be EoE HD edition? What is it then?
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>>158684496
So you understand that it's happening at the same time of the two last episodes.
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>>158684496
I never watched Rebirth. Wasnt it the entire first part?

EoE got released in 2 different parts, so theres an intermission.

Plus it goes along with the rest of the series. 26 episodes.
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>>158684214
>ends with choking and insults
>improvement
This is just a lazy explanation for lazy writing. Anno couldn't think of any decent resolution on Asuka and Shinji's dangerous and venomous relationship.
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>>158684634
I think he is talking about the credits that roll when shinji and 01 finally leave nerf and see dead asuka. The TV episodes still havent happened at that moment.

Its because it was released in 2 parts.
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>>158684496
Whatever you think of Asuka, her state is that dramatic for Shinji.
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>>158678828
What would Asuka's panties smell like?
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>>158684975
Probably like shit
BRAP
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>>158679098
>disappointed
But are they not better than the original? I like them.
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>>158685007
or cinnamon and hazel with a hint of urine.
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>>158684975
>Is afraid of even using the same bathroom of misato and shinji
>Lived 7 days starving herself in ruins in a rusty bathtub with blood and likely piss and shit.
When the depression kicks in, she probably dont have really good hygiene.
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>>158685081
Then think l level-headed, not stupidly depressed Rebuild Asuka.
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>>158684975
Chamomile and citrus. And too much lavender if Misato leaves her perfume sitting out.
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>>158685120
While pretending to be normal, she probably has impeccable hygiene and is ready 100% of the time for either shinji or kaji jump her and start fucking.

Are you satisfied?
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>>158685120
Dr. Pavel, I'm NERV
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If Asuka "loved" Shinji so much why was she so mean to him?
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>>158685900
W-where's this from? And w-why is she crying? I'm crying now too...
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>>158685900
Because love hurts.
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>>158679043
>choker

SLUT
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>>158688548
>Asuka, out of everyone, is using a choker
Pottery
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>>158685900
Asuka, for the first half of her presence in the series, is pretty much a straight forward "notice me" tsundere.
She teases him to get a reaction out of him
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>>158682648
Prototype draft Kaworu was apparently a cutter, he had scars on his wrists. That's where the Kaworu is suicidal thing comes from.
It's not as evident in the final episode, but I think it's still there. That's why Kaworu has literally no self-worth.
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>>158692441

Rebuild Kaworu is superior.
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>>158692533
You're wrong.
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>>158692580

>Manly piano playing Kaworu that wants to make people happy

Versus

>some guy who can never make a coherent plan and wants to kill himself
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>>158692649
>Anything about kaworu
>Mainly

Anon, pls.
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>>158692649
Animeworu:
-more interesting
-more depth
-actually acts like how an ayy lmao would act
-no pupils
-suicidal, therefore waifuable and makes me want to protect him
-cute design pandering to shotacons like me
100/10

Rebuildworu:
-whole character revolves around Shinji
-has pupils and is humanized
-shadow the edgehog hairstyle
-no flaws therefore not waifuable
7/10, still better than the Eva girls in Rebuild though
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>>158692800

Rebuild Kaworu's entire point was to act as a guide for Shinji. That, and get played like a fiddle by best dad to get Shinji in the robot. He takes the role of Shinji's only real friend in the Rebuilds. Gendo is Gendo, Misato manipulates him for revenge, Rei is fucking dead, and Asuka is a cunt who punches bullet-proof glass instead of explaining the situation to him.

>Oh hey Shinji just woke up for a decade of sleeping
>let's not tell him what's going on, all while blaming him for something Misato and Gendo ultimately caused
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>>158692894
Yeah, but that's the thing. Kaworu's entire character revolves around Shinji in Rebuild.
We don't know anything about him and that's boring.

At least in NGE, even with his one episode, we were still able to learn a bit about Kaworu as an individual. He had his own issues about humanity, music, and SEELE and shit that were all separate from Shinji.
In Rebuild all of that is gone.

I agree he's a lot more tolerable than the other characters in 3.0, though. He's just a chill dude who wants to play piano, that's cool.
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>>158681037
Kaworu's head popping like a fucking watermelon will never not make me grin like a retard.
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>>158693002
All the deaths in Eva make me laugh, they're so over the top
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>>158684679
wrong, we see dead ritsuko and asuka in refuge in ep 25
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End of Evangelion > Neon Genesis Evangelion > Evangelion: 3.0 > Evangelion: 2.0 > Evangelion: 1.0 > Evangelion: Death and Rebirth
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What's cool is that in the Japanese laserdisk collections for the last two episodes they contained the TV episode as well as that half of EoE
25 came with 25 Air and 26 came with the second half
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>>158679043
>top cunt
>capable of feeling love
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>>158693633
>3.0 above literally anything
You were right on every other point, at least.
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>>158692580
Damn, I'm not a big fan of Kaworu and usually hate Kaworufags but that is a damn cool shot
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>>158679345
Uh that's a completely different character anon
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>>158693633
Death and Rebirth is good
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>>158692953
Kowru in Rebuild has the knowledge of NGE Kowru
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>>158693858
Its literally a recap episode the movie. Yeah theres some improved art, but still.
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>>158678828
Jesus I just watched Rebuild 2.22 for the 1st time and it was so fucking good that I don't want to watch the 3rd one because I know I will be left waiting for the 3.0+1.0.
I was a bit dissapointed by 1.11 but 2.22 blew me out of the water.
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>>158693796
Weird way to spell best girl
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>>158694533

>stopped at 2.22

Go watch 3.33 so you can be pissed off and be eternally waiting for 4.0 like the rest of us.
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>>158694533
>I don't want to watch the 3rd one
No anon you're doing it wrong.
You need to watch the 3.33. Being blue balled for 3.0+1.0 is part of the experience.
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>>158688548
>>158689692

Legit question: Is there any explanation of the neck / choke motif the series seen to have? Anno sure love his strangulation.
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>>158696737
Fetish
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>>158679873
The action sequences are complete garbage because the way the Evangelions move and act were completely ignored. There's no sense of weight. Asuka vs. the MPs is better than anything since
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Studying and analyzing Eva, I've come to the realization that if Shinji had ask Rei, Asuka, or Misato "Let's have sex" they would have all said yes to him. Also Shinji is gay.
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>>158698063
>I've come to the realization that if Shinji had ask Rei, Asuka, or Misato "Let's have sex" they would have all said yes to him.
Thats not even a question. And if somehow you missed it, the wagon instrumentality scene only confirm it. Its was shinji being a coward.
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>>158679043
>Shinji didn't love anyone
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>>158698063
>And Shinji is gay
Pretty much.
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>>158681037
>he doesn't understnda subtle pottery
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Where does the "Get in the mech, Shinji" meme come from? Even if they manipulated Shinji to get in the EVA they always left him the choice to run away.
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>>158700663
tumblr fujoshits probably, where every stupid emo meme about eva comes from
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>>158679555
The asuka wounds argument make no sense since the unit 02 analyser decays all into red in end of evangelion
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I'm going to start watching Evangelion. Should I watch the last two episodes before EoE or just go straight from 24 to EoE?
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>>158701136
Watch the end of the original series, it allows insight to the characters' psyche. Don't expect amazing action in the two last episodes though.
After that you can watch EoE.
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Why is manga Shinji so much less annoying than either anime or rebuild version?

>>158701027
positioning is similar enough, that you can kinda draw connections. I'm more interested about why they bothered to change her surname in the rebuilds.
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>>158698347
>Kill his autistic friend instead of trying to straighten him up.
He gave up on kaworu too, anon stands correct, shinji never loved anyone.
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I miss Moot.
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>>158701136
Watch 25 and 26 too. They are great for multiple reasons.
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>>158701491
He was a complete hypocritical faggot, but he was our faggot. We needed more usuka drawing days.
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>>158701491
Literally whomst.
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>>158701491
>Some day in 50-60 years i will wake up, open up /a/ like i do everyday, will see a thread reporting that Christopher Poole has passed away
>It wont even get a sticky.
>It will get archived with 12 replies to open up space for another moe blob, waifu war or one piece general.
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