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>anime/manga where everyone has a bunch of widely varying creative powers
>the mc's power is just "punches hard"

why does this keep happening?
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>>158625077
Because Gon is just a child
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>>158625077
Because pounding Shitou's head into oblivion is still the best thing in HxH.
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how many series do it?

>hxh
>jojo part 3
>naruto (can create clones but just uses them to punch hard)
>one piece (is rubber just uses it to punch hard)
>snk (until he uses coordinate but even then it's extremely restricted)
>boku no hero
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Could Mob Psycho also be counted as one of these?
Yeah it psychic powers, but he's still just unreal powerful compared to everybody else
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>>158625732
Lost against Mogami.
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>>158625077
>why does this keep happening?
because it's cool.
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>>158625520
>boku no hero
Not anymore
He kicks hard now
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Because the main characters abilities are best kept simple so that seeing how they're going to overcome the antagonists power is more interesting.
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>>158625077
MC powers are always at least one of the following:
>Punch really hard
>Regeneration
>Power copying
>Electricity
>Technique that harms him/shortens his lifespan

Any MCs with anything other than these?
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>>158629075
That's pretty encompassing for shounen but seinen tends to get more creative.
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>>158625520
forgot to mention dragonball. Goku originally had an unbreakable stick of varying length, was a weremonkey, and punched hard. Now he just punches hard and shoots punch lasers, but everyone shoots punch lasers now.
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>>158629075
Shooting his soul out his fingers.
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>>158629075
Guts.
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>>158629075
Combining
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>>158629846
>Swings sword really hard
>Armor that harms him/shortens his lifespan.
Okay...
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>>158629075
>electricity
Come on, that's comparatively rare as shit, fire is much more overused. It's just sometimes they don't call it fire but it looks like fire anyways or is black fancy fire or whatever.
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>>158629982
Come to think of it, lightning/electricity powers are much more common with the MCs rivals. Sasuke and Killua come to mind, but Chinese Electric Batman is an MC, so...
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>>158629075
Index?
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>>158630224
>Power nullification
Okay, that's simple but relatively rare among MCs.
>Uses it to PUNCH REALLY HARD
Dammit.
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>>158625077
That's why Togashi reseted his Nen, so he can choose something more interesting.

>>158629075
You forgot fire, how could you forget fire.
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>>158629075
Johnny Joestar, unless you'd count Act 4 under punching really hard.
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>>158629957
pic related?
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>>158629075
Psyren
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>>158625077
he could've had something cool if he kept the fishing pole but alas, togashi is a hack
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>>158625520
>naruto (can create clones but just uses them to punch hard)
>Naruto
>Punch
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>>158633058
Surely he uses a wind-tree-electricity-magic attack. Please use the copy pasta about Madara to explain your approach as if Naruta wasn't hated on the site until the former admin made it a safe space for your ilk.
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>>158625077
Don't you mean
>a skill that makes MC look like weak but is actually the strongest
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>>158625077
Watch superior manga like one piece.
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because its easier to write fights for an mc that just punches really hard
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Naw every mc has a evilside superpower that totally kicks ass cause evil is badass
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>>158633058
>>158625520
>All other characters have multiple skills and unique abilities
>Naruto
>Anything other than clones and wind ball
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Reminder that an adult Gone full power Jajanken punch is weaker than Uvogin's nuclear bomb punch.
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>>158630106
>killua
>gon's rival
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>>158629075
You forgot
>cancels other powers
>one-shots anything but MC is frail as shit
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>>158629075
Don't forget the power of arousal.
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>>158630847
Ironically enough, because of everybody trying to hard counter him he barely punches anybody in the LN anymore. Now he uses raw sophistry, bombs, buses, the occasional mounted HMG, and whatever else he can get his hands on to win. The boy sure learned to adapt to everybody trying to fuck him over at every turn.
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>>158625520
Bleach. OK it's not punching but "energy slash from my sword" is as generic as it gets for swordfighting.
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>>158633058
>>158635361

Memes asides, he creating clones and using them to build the windball is pretty cool, and I don't even finished naruto, it's just too boring.
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>>158629075
Law of Ueki mc? I forgot about his power
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>>158629075
Ushio to Tora I think is an exception.
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>>158637308
Military gear is the LN equivalent of fire for shonen protags.
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Sometimes they learn to punch in creative ways.
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>>158625077
>why does this keep happening?
Because the MC is meant to interact with the powers of everyone else, which means the physics of his power will be explored more deeply and needs to be something the writer needs to understand to some extent. If the MC had a quirkier power like say... "separate water into hydrogen and oxygen" the writer would need to understand chemistry very well in order to then have said character fight water/fire/electricity/etc. user.
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>>158638052
Kek. Luffy got nothing on Popeye in terms of creativity.
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>>158625077
It's a smart move to give the MC very simple abilities, it allows them to use it in different ways against more complicated abilities.
Punches hard is usually there with some other power.
For example, Yusuke's reigun and Jolyne's string powers work very well by the side of punching hard.
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>>158637455
one piece managed to turn """wind slash""" into """"""energy slash""""""
iirc the slash wasn't even visible, just the effect, but now it's "who can slash harder" and "who can punch harder"
not just that but luffy's attacks go something like:
>punch
>punch with accelerated bloodstream
>punch with black coating on hand
>punch many times very fast
>punch with black coating on hand that's on fire
>inflated punch
>inflated punch with black coating on hand
>inflated punch with accelerated blood and black coating
>inflated punch with accelerated blood and black coating but both arms
>inflated punch with accelerated blood and black coating but also even bigger now
>inflated punch with accelerated blood and black coating but many times in a row.

did I miss any?
the rest is just a kick here and there, or maybe he'll turn into a balloon and redirect the enemy attack
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>>158633058
He either punches or uses Rasengan, which is just a glorified punch infused with ninja magic. A shounen punch in all but name.
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>>158638052
Jesus christ, Popeye was violent as fuck.
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>>158625077
that one i cant ever remember the name of . its about some guy who you never see his face he always has a book in front of it and he is going to screw his sister because the family line has divine blood

it has the @ symbol in it and brother in the title. some of the craziest fights in any anime ever

fucking guns unfolding out of a bitch and a city tuning to chocolate
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>>158625732
Lost against Mogami and Claw Boss both in his strongest from besides ??? and died to Truck-kun
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>>158625520
Technically One Punch Man, but I wouldn't count that as a power and everything he does hits hard
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>>158631172
>That's why Togashi reseted his Nen, so he can choose something more interesting.
Wait what?
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>>158625077
You've missed the point.
It's not about creative powers, it's about creative people. You can have an amazing ability and still be the boring idiot.
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>>158625077
Punching really hard is the ultimate power you fucktard.
Literally anyone from any series can be defeated by punching really hard prove me wrong.
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Because it's cool.
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>>158629075
K-kenshin?
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>>158629075
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>>158638938
This
They make a point that despite Jajanken being kinda mediocre it has the potential to become incredibly stronk due to things like
>feinting one hand and going to another
>effective at long, medium and short ranges
>gon needing to call it out works as both a mindgame, and also a thing that boosts his nen and makes it stronger
It may be another example of Togashi examining how someone like Goku would be like in a more serious setting but that would be jerking off Togashi's writing.
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>>158638422
The Rasen Shuriken isn't a punch though.
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>>158629075

in Kuroko's basketball the MC was literally just irrelevant to the point of it being a superpower
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>>158629075
How could you forget the power of friendship?
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One of the reasons why authors give MCs or characters they want to develop such binary abilities is because they "train" the character so they can eventually defeat the villian. Example: Villian has a shield, MC cannot punch through it
MC trains
Final fight, MC can punch through shield.
Since these abilites have no special characteristics, it's easy for the author to scale the MC's power as he likes
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>>158639326

example
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>>158629075
>power copying

name a few
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>>158637874
>he creating clones and using them to build the windball is pretty cool

yeah, it was the last cool thing Naruto ever did
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>>158638273
He used to do more creative shit, like the Net he used against Arlong, but yeah now he basically just punches
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>>158625077
>>158638212
this but it also put the protganoist in a situation where they have to use their simplistic ability to overcome something much more complex and complicated like in jojo, it's also alot easier to write someone like Gon, who's powers are simple but always work, into battles in general as opposed to someone who has a neat power but comes with a million different conditions to use
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>>158637874
>>158639609
>>158635361
Naruto could literally get Sharingan, Susanoo, Byakugan, Rinnengan or any other special ability and the writers would still make him create clones and make wind ball variations

>Susanoo Rasengan
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>>158637909
He had the power to turn trash into trees, but he used mostly to punch people with trees. Then he got the treasures, who were mostly punches, and his second level was a power nullifier, which wasn't mentioned here >>158629075 but it's kinda common too.
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>>158629075
>>158631276
Thanks God Araki got more creative after Part 3, and maybe too creative in Part 5
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>>158626303
kek
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>>158638996
He had superspeed; if you can't punch really hard you can punch really fast
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>>158639801
>too creative
I agree.
>part 3 stands: Punch! Go fast! Shoot fiyah! Create a maze! Gambling with your Soul! Time stop!
>Part 5 stands: hhhhthis nigga can make zippers anywhere, this man can create mini-sharks in water that alter what a person says, this man can swim in water, and the "final boss" has a person-seeking murder rock that turns into the person it's trying to kill
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>>158638857
Turning into a mummy caused Gon to lose his powers even after being healed.
If he ever becomes the MC again, he'll probably have to start over from scratch.
The happy-go-lucky Gon who developed a punch/energy blast/blade/ rock paper scissors technique is dead.
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>>158639924
I was more thinking about how Giorno's powers were like Adam West's Batbelt, but I agree with you too. That's why one of my favourites is Josuke, he had a more or less well defined power and got the most out of it.
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>>158639246
Jajanken is really only viable as a short range attack, it's weak as shit when Gon goes long range and Gon has literally only used his mid range attack once
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>>158640024
If he comes back, it better be with his fishing rod
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>>158638857
Theoretically, when Gon became Gon-san, he got to the peak of his potential, at the cost of losing his potential forever, which meant not using Nen again. His body got that damaged because it was too much power to suddenly handle, so Alluka could cure that, but losing his Nen was the price he agreed to pay, so he can't get it back. It has been theorized that he could relearn Nen from the beggining, and get a different type of Hatsu, but Gon hasn't appeared again since the Election Arc, so who knows what could happen.
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>>158640024
hope he doesn't relearn Jajanken, at least not instantly, i'd rather if he learns an entirely different Hatsu because he gets a different nen type or some shit
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>>158640197
>it's weak as shit when Gon goes long range
I don't know why. Theoretically, as an Enhancer, he should have good affinity with Emmision, his long range blast should have 80% of his fist attack's power.
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>>158639924
>this man can swim in water

Absolute madness

>this man can create mini-sharks in water that alter what a person says

Two different stands.
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>>158640266
If Togashi goes the hack route and lets him cheat his Nen back, I hope he at least gives him a new ability.

>>158640218
I don't know why did he drop it, he could have created some really good abilities with enhancing and a fishing rod.
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>>158640274
probably because Gon has only exclusively trained as an Enchancer and in the manga its said that his nen type leans more towards Transmuter
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>>158640290
>this man can swim in water
he probably meant the guy who could turn anything into mud, and swim on the floor
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>>158640357
>his nen type leans more towards Transmuter
Oh, that's true, but he did both Transmuting and Emmiting training in Greed Island.
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>>158640315
Togashi already brought him back, if he didn't have plans for Gon (he does btw, Gon still needs to meet Gyro) he would've just killed him off
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>>158640367
I did in fact mean that. Sorry it's like 2:30 AM here and I just got done work about 3 hours ago. I'm running on soda and spring rolls
>>158640290
I forgot that being two seperate stands as well.
Fuck.
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>>158640415
>spring rolls

fucking degenerate
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>>158640492
They're delicious anon. Fuck you.
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>>158640411
>Gon still needs to meet Gyro
That wouldn't happen in the Dark Continent, unless Gyro gets in the boat too, or is already connected to one of the calamities.
Anyway, I think you anons give more importance to that little bit with Gyro than Togashi does, he might have forgotten his plans for Gyro by now.
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>>158640635
i highly doubt Togashi would forget about Gyro, abort the arc? maybe. but Gon isn't going to the DC, he has no reason to, neither does Gyro, he's just chilling in Meteor City right now probably twirling his moustache or some other evil shit
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>>158629075
Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer had original powers that allowed for individual differences while still being within the same system.
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>>158635361
I actually liked it because he had so few techniques. Instead of trying to use 100 different techniques for different situations, use the standard set in different ways. It's much more interesting.
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>>158639299
It's just naruto's spirit bomb
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What MC's don't have "punches hard" as their default attack?
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>>158625077
Its a tactile sensation people can connect with easily.
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>>158625077
If everyone has weird powers brute force becomes unique.
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>>158629075
You forgot anti-magic
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>>158625077
you don't question to kamijou touma punch. ever
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>>158643016
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>>158629320
Everyone's powers overall got less and less interesting over time.
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>>158629320
>>158643462

Even Piccolo is just a generic punch and beam tosser now.

Back in the old times, he was able to do shit like splitting himself apart and even make himself Gigantic.
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>>158640024
surprised that Ging gave Gon his cellphone number t b h
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>>158625520
>Bleach was basically this but instead of punching it was swords and Ichigo's bankai just gave him a faster sword
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