Why the fuck did this series suddenly become about Shiro? Doesn't

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>>158430027
Haremshitters ruin everything. I stopped giving a shit about prisma Ilya awhile ago.
>have a wonderful /u/ series
>change it into a harem for no reason

Fuck prisma Ilya. A complete insult to the prisma Ilya franchise

>>158430110
I dropped it when it turned into /u/ shit

>>158430027
Because girls want the dick. That's why Stella, Leysritt, Ilya, Kuro, Mayu, Tohsaka, Bazett, Luvia, Angelica, and Sakura are motivated mostly by Shiro's encouragement and suffering.

>>158430027
>Why the fuck did this series suddenly become about Shiro?
Because the Writers saw the High Jump

>>158430027
Hiroyama had a midlife crisis and suddenly decided that his series made of lewd lolis needed a heavy dose of grimderp and NUFFING PERSONNEL KID.

Because Shirou is the best part of Fate, and Ilya is actuslly a boring protagonist if she's not headcanoned in to a 100% different personality.

>>158430027
Shirou is the best character of fate so you should be happy

>>158430027
shirou saved this shitty serie

>>158433516
I like Shirou, but i like a lot even my favorite Blonde edgelord faggot. Kid Gil was great.

>>158431326
Caren.

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>>158430027
It was the only way to get more best girl.

>>158430027
What the fuck are you complaining about. The series was a complete joke until 3rei where it became readable.

>>158430110
>have a wonderful /u/ series
Ilya wanted Shirou's dick from the first page, retard.

>>158430027
The only Fate entry that's more autistic than this is FGO. Why is this crap even relevant?

>>158436897

Because both Prisma and GO outsell all other Fate products combined. There's a reason Prisma is getting a movie, 4+ seasons, and so on.

>>158431326
>Because girls want the dick. That's why Stella, Leysritt, Ilya, Kuro, Mayu, Tohsaka, Bazett, Luvia, Angelica, and Sakura are motivated mostly by Shiro's encouragement and suffering.

Except that a part of these don't even like Shirou, a part of these only like Shirou from the alternate universe and so on.

>>158437086
GO I understand, but Prism too?

>>158437561

Yep. GO obviously sells well due to the nature of being a mobile game, but Prisma has sold on its extreme popularity. That's not even going into the sales Prisma generates from figures and other merchandise.

Whether people like it or not, Prisma has a BIG following that really likes the series. This means we're already up to 4 seasons and a movie, and apparently there's going to be an announcement for Seasons 5 and 6 with the movie.

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I can't wait for Angelica to wear the virgin killer outfit.

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>>158433516
>Best character
>Not gilgamesh

>>158440530
Does Prisma Shirou know about the whole "me from the future" thing in some way? Has he had some interaction with EMIYA beyond using his install card?

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>>158430027
hatesex when?

>>158440652
Is Luvia bi too?

>>158440680
You don't need to be bi to be attracted to Tohsaka, according to my niece.

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>>158440680
What do you think?

>>158437641
actually the funny part is that the Prisma writer is a huge GOfag and he's already incorporating GO designs in the story.

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>>158440628
No interaction other than a wordless conveyance. Think more Heaven's Feel than UBW.

>>158436683

3rei is where it turned into trash.

>>158440628
He knows that it's him and how he died, but that's it.

>>158430027
>Why the fuck did this series suddenly become about Shiro?

I already lost my interest when it became all about Gilgamesh, and lost the remnants when it became also about Shiro. If I wanted to see disgusting boys I'd go to a homo club.

>>158430110
Your tears are delicious.

>>158437641
>prisma
>selling
Are you being ironic? It's just sold to a niche pedomarket nobody gives a shit about. So niche the Prisma event in FGO didn't get record-breaking influx of new players unlike Zero or Summer events.
You're completely deluded if you even think Prisma is popular.

>>158442252
>things that never happened
Gil was a secondary at all times. And Shirou has stepped out of the spoitlight. If he's doing anything, it will be related to zombie Lancelot wormslut.
At least complain about stuff that's actually real instead of your pathetic delusions

>>158442252
>when it became all about Gilgamesh

This didn't happen, though.

>>158442399
>muh pedos
>muh fictional children
Nah. Not listening to a cancerous moralfag

>>158442492
Not him but maybe you should look at sales figures instead. Prisma has been lucky to break the manabi line while zero and UBW sold 10s of thousands. They aren't comparable. The mainline series does a lot more fig and merch sales as well.

>>158430110
It started as a harem and then the yuribait showed up and started increasing. Don't be retarded
It's retards like you who make yuri haters feel like they're right. Making it harder for people like me who simply enjoy yuri without being an obnoxious extremist obssessed faggot to do so without being grouped in with retards like you

>>158430027
The author likes Shirou. This is his manga and he writes whatever he wants. Cry more, retard

>What if we took the idea of a peaceful EMIYA family fun times and some Mahou
>And
>Sexualize the Illya
Y A M E R O

>>158437641
>moralfag
I call a duck, a duck. Should I call them any other label to point out they are sexualizing and fantasying children who aren't even in middle school?

Now on a serious topic: Prisma only seems to attract starving lolicons who don't give a flying fuck about Fate. You can even tell this by /a/ threads, full of people insulting Fate and how "Prisma" is the only "good thing". In Japan, most Prisma fans who buy those figures don't give a shit about Fate, they just fap to lolis in underwear or barely clothed making lewd poses. Illya as a character is least popular than ever in Type Moon polls ever since the cancerous manga began serializing. In the past she used to get in the top 10 or beat Sakura, ever since Prisma became a thing, her old fanbase dropped her character completely because to true Illya fans who actually loved her character, Prisma Illya is how EMIYAfags reacted to EMIYA Alter reveal. A complete disgrace to the fucking character. Those who just saw her as loli they fap to, the series pander to them by making her a bland piece of shit who catered to their fantasies.

>>158430027
because hes Miu's onii-chan and he wants to protect his imouto
wouldn't you do the same?

>>158442616
for >>158442492

>>158442549
I don't care if he's right or wrong. Because I don't care about sales. I hate salesfagging. I just depise the retarded "hurr durr lolicons are pedos who'll rape real children" crap

>>158442549
Prismafags love to overinflate their importance by so called "merch" numbers they never show even if the Fate figs always topping in rankings are FSN or FGO related.

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>>158442616
>I'm a proud fate primary

>>158440530
>but to me they're more like graves
this line always stuck out as odd to me.
Does this have any deeper meaning or is it just chuunishit babble?

>>158430027
the only best fate

>>158442616
Nice fuking bullshit
Go back to le ddit. As a fan of both cute magical loli shows and Fate, I love Illya.
Also
>hurr durr she's not like in SN. So she's bland and sucks
Did you forget that her personality in SN was a result of how she grew up? The very premise of Prisma (Illya not going through that crap) means she can't develop that personality

>>158442750
Did you forget that we see Illya with her dad and mother as a playful smart and scheming little thing before the war? That Illya is smarter than the dumb as rock moeblob for lolicons to fap and needed something less threatening. So she turned into bland colorless stock magical girl protagonist.

She's just a shitty generic magical girl wearing Illya's corpse as meatsuit.

>>158442580
>It started as a harem

You're retarded if you believe that for a fucking second. Shirou wasn't even a character until the third season.

>>158442750
>>158442814
Isn't SN Illya technically Kuro?

>>158442814
That Illya was already being prepared for the war.
Kerry killed the einzberns and took the maids before any of that happened. And he and Iri used magic to seal whatever magic knowledge she already had.. That's how Kuro developed as a separate personality

>>158442858
That's what the manga likes to claim, but Kuro isn't even like FSN Illya, she's a random slut loli who is just as dumb as the bland one. Grasping straws for the shitty excuse to replace a character for OCs who wear her face.

>>158442830
The only Shirou with a harem is the comedy relief from the first few seasons. Miyu's brother has no harem

>>158430027

Eins: Meh
Zwei: Okay now it's actually good
Drei: Fucking garbage

The writer is focusing on his own boring as fuck made-up characters, fuck off with that shit. Like the entire fucking Drei has revolved around his family of Donut Steels.

>>158442898
>That Illya was already being prepared for the war.
That doesn't matter. Illya had no idea of this until later and she was carefree and smart. You're again missing the point she lost most of her IQ functions to cater the UGUUUUUUU mobeblob lover lolicons. Totally gross.

>>158442901
>cunning bitch ready to murder people without a second thought
>isn't even like FSN Illya
?

>>158442901
And you're grasping at straws to complain about the show

>>158442960
>cunning bitch
She's retarded, just assertive and slutty.

>>158442979
She's no more retarded than FSN Illya.

>>158442974
If you admit your show is nothing but a brainless lolicon pandering that features a character who has nothing to do with Illya except because she stole her life as a parasite alien, I'll leave it be.

>>158443000
She hasn't showed actual feats of her cunning, all she has showed is that she's a total slut unlike classy Illya.

>>158443009
Nah. That's just your retarded opinion. It will never be a fact

>>158430027

Drei was shit. Both manga and anime.

It's not even about Shirou. Bad guy is boring as shit and entire drei is sleep inducing boring.

>>158443060
Hot opinions

>>158443031
What did FSN Illya do that makes her more cunning than Kuro? They're more or less the same.

What is this about

>>158443054
But it is as long Pedo Shityla exists.

>>158443076

True opinions.

>>158443083
What if we took (...) a total embarassment to the Fate franchise

>>158443079
Illya showed her cunning in tricking her enemies. She never showed her cunning by trying to sleep with people. That shit is OOC as fuck. Kuro is just an oversexualized slut and is pretty fucking insulting that the shitty author has the fucking nerve to claim is our Illya.

>>158443031
Illya in the original wasn't cunning, what are you talking about?
She was over reliant on berserker's brute force and was helpless whenever she was taken out of the equation.

>hurr she tricked Shirou
Even a toddler could do that.

>>158443083
Telling the quaternary pedos to fuck off from Fate.

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It's not about Shiro though. It's "Fate/stay night" related so Shiro would have to become involved in the story eventually. If it was Extra or Apocrypha you'd be just in your anger, but it's not. It just seems to me you have a personal problem against him.

>>158443125
>tricking people is a super cunning trait that puts Illya above the rest
pfft

>>158443105
>>158443091
Kill yourself, moralfag
Fate had violence. By that same token, you're a dangerous psycho who could murder people at any moment
Kill yourself, disgusting murderer

Kerry & Iri should've been best parents towards Illya & Shirou. Children are for 0 sexual

>>158443152
Miyuverse Shirou is HF's Shirou except he has an actually believable and compelling motivation to throw away his ideals.

>>158442609
>Sexualize the Illya
Best part

Reminder that the only reason F/SN doesn't have any Illya sex scenes is because of budget and scheduling constraints.
If he had the time and resources, Nasu would have included sex scenes with Illya. Hell, Len had sex scenes in Kagetsu Tohya
Throwing the word "pedo" around to demonize loli sexualization is retarded.
It's proof that you're part of that cancer called SJWs and thus, you're a retard who should die

>>158431028

So at the end of season 1?

>>158443338
No, Nasu said in the 2012 FAQ before anniversary that Illya scene didn't have sex scenes with Illya, only with the maids. The scene he wrote in FHA where Shirou and Illya sleep together and then play around like she did with Kiritsugu were scenes he recycled from her route. He called it a "platonic sister route." He never imagined her as a real love interest, he was joking in Tiger Dojo (or rather Illya was).

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>"Shiro"

The people who love Luvia are meme loving autists who spam Rin pleases old men for money.

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>>158443402
>only with the maids.

>>158442616
>Prisma only seems to attract starving lolicons who don't give a flying fuck about Fate. You can even tell this by /a/ threads, full of people insulting Fate and how "Prisma" is the only "good thing". In Japan, most Prisma fans who buy those figures don't give a shit about Fate, they just fap to lolis in underwear or barely clothed making lewd poses

I can say that this much is correct, besides the wearing any underwear part.

>>158443402
Doesn't change the fact Len (a loli) has a sex scene in KT. Thus, proving Nasu has never been against lolicon stuff.
And that only retards use the word "pedo" when talking about 2D

>>158443437
Actually I'm more a fan of her shacking up with Rin. The old man meme has gotten really stale, and it's only good when used very sparingly and clever.

>>158443481
It was never clever to begin with, dipshit.

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>>158443481
The old men meme was always cover for Luviafags being as tsundere for Rin as Luvia herself.

>>158443505
It's clever sometimes. But very rarely.

>>158443463
Nice moving goalpost faggot

>>158443590
I didn't move anything
One of my points was that only retards use "pedo" when talking about drawings. Only retards try to apply morals to drawings. The main reason CP and pedophilia is looked down upon and is illegal in real life is because real children are harmed.
No children are harmed with drawings. So the moralfaggotry is completely retarded.

Stop bashing on him! Shero is a great character!

I never played any VNs yet but I just knew they were considered as an eroge.

Why though?

>>158442616
You are completely correct. I don't give a flying fuck about Fate, and neither should anyone else.

>>158444034
Because people have sex in it. Shirou bangs all three main girls, and Rin gets to do Saber as well.

>>158444202
I thought it was something harder than that

>expecting the main character of F/SN not to show up in a spinoff
You're like those faggots who get upset about touma being in Railgun.

>>158444291
>You're like those faggots who get upset about touma being in Railgun.

It was supposed to be a 4-girl CGDCT only. Fuck that, they even made the MC like a damsel in distress. Fuck touma.

>>158444332
>It was supposed to be a 4-girl CGDCT only
No it wasn't, not at all. They absolutely butchered the first season.

>>158444383
The first season was proven to be a better format, knowing the sales.

>>158444231
It's like not even 3% of the game. The sex scenes are a tiny, tiny part of it. They're blown out of proportion, because gasp, people having sex!

>>158444460
Anyone who read the manga and also had seen/read Index would have known that it was never just going to be CGDCT. Only retard secondaries would have been deluded enough to think otherwise.

>>158444472
Purityfags, everyone.

>>158444493
But the fact that the format worked, means something's wrong with the source

>>158444528
It didn't "work", it was a complete disaster story wise. I don't know about sales or anything, but that doesn't matter. It was the lowest point in the entire series.

>>158444500
I'm not a purityfag. I was mocking them for overblowing the sex scenes in fate. In fact the fact that people do have sex is one of the more normal things in fate.

>>158443463
Which has nothing to do with Fate, you know? Nasu always thought Illya and Shirou as siblings. Their love is fraternal.

>>158444563
You didn't knew about sales, that's why you think otherwise it did bad. But no, sales were fucking better in the first season.

>>158444291
He doesn't show up in Apocrypha, Strange Fake or Extra (unless you count EMIYA's flashback).

Technically Fragments isn't a spinoff but the zero of Prototype which is the original story, and FGO is labeled by Nasu as "not a spinoff, but a complete franchise."

>>158444666
Sales aren't fucking important, what we're discussing is retard secondaries who didn't know anything about the story and thought it was going to be CGDCT yuri slice of life. It was never going to be that, right from the start. Only delusional faggots thought otherwise.

>>158444682
>Apocrypha
No spoilers, dude. That was a big twist to me when I read volume 2... and now I forever wait more chapters

>>158430027
It's lost its charm when this series become usual F/SN ripoff. Because original F/SN exists and it was better at this, Prisma was good because it was a mahou shoujo in fate setting, not too serious and self-ironic, but still good as spinoff because there was nothing alike before. Now I just wait until 3rei end and hope they continue this series in its own usual way.

>>158447122
FUCKING SPOILER THAT SHIT
FUCK

>No Angelica /ss/ doujin
FemGil is basically asking for This

>>158441269
What exactly do you find "funny" about that?

>>158430027
so where exactly does this series become shiro centric? I dropped it because I thought it was gonna be shiro centric from the start instead I got some /u/ bullshit with jailbait and I ain't falling for that one any time soon.

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>>158443402
>only with the maids
Well, it's even better.

>>158447616
Fuck off.

>>158430027
The focus is still mainly on illya and miyu. Just that the flashback part is focus on shirou.

if prisma is so unpopular as people claims, why is it on season 4?

>>158448606
Because salesfags can't make predictions.

>>158448606
Because it's actually popular.

>>158442731
Remember that when Shirou records a sword he's recording everything about it. This includes things like who created it and who used it.

So the whole grave thing is along the lines of this is where the legend of who made this sword famous rests and I'm borrowing their power.

>>158442580
>have a yuri show
>show no longer yuri
>get upset because of it
That's far from extremist, that's just a standard and rational response you shitlord.