>Is a perfectly decent adaptation >Is something we've

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>perfectly decent

>>158249832
schierke and isidro have shit voice actors

>>158249832
>Having the word "perfect" anywhere near that pile of bullshit trash of an adaptation
Also
>is something we've asked for years
>it's a rushed as fuck adaptation that's arguably one of the ugliest and cheapest-looking TV anime of the past 2 centuries

>>158249832
Was getting guaranteed responses for this shitty bait part of your plan?

>>158249832
>>Is hated just because it's in CG
And the CG is goddamn terrible.

>>158250194
>cheapest-looking TV anime of the past 2 centuries
I didn't know they had anime in the 1800s.

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>>158249832
>perfectly decent

No
It doesn't have to be this bad just because it's cg

>>158249832
I'm ok with CG. But this isnt CG I can handle.

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>Can't disscuss about how good this adaptation is
Seriously guys im leaving

>>158249832
The directing is utter shit, I hope the person responsible for this show never gets work again.

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>>158250458
Anon, dont say that kind of shit. We need more Teekyuu in our lives

>>158250458
Holy shit, fuck off. Teekyuu is fucking great.

Why didn't they just animate it?

The CG is shit but tolerable BUT when they cant make up their minds and switch between 2D and 3D for a character scene to scene it really shits the bed.

>>158249832
It's hated because it's bad CG. CG can be done well, but it's so obviously lazy here

>>158251139
>cg isn't animated

>>158250458
Fuck off dude. Guy might be awful at handling 3DCG dark action series but he's a great 2D animator & does comedy well.

If anything, whoever assigned someone known for wacky cartoony comedy animation to this project is to blame.
>>158250416
The problem is that anime fans will shout "horrible CG" even when it actually is pretty decent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXyUVdmb_WM

So some might get contrarian even when something is legit bad

*CLANG*

>>158250080
>Implying you didn't laugh out loud when that happened

>>158251256
well transformations like >>158250416 aren't animation

>>158249832
>Is hated just because it's in CG
No, it's not hated just because it's in CG
It's hated because it's really shitty CG and fails to convey the story through said shitty CG. It's so shitty that the suspension of disbelief can't even happy because everything is so uncanny you can't help but laugh at the production quality of it.
Knights of Sidonia and Ajin (done by Polygon) are both in CG, have often-shitty FPS for whatever reason, but does a decent job at portraying the situations the characters are thrown into.
I'm not sure if the studio doing Berserk (whatever it is) has literally given up, or what's going on with them. Konosuba and Kemono Friends' tone allows for QUALITY because they don't exactly take themselves seriously. Berserk, fanbase aside, isn't a series you can get away with this much QUALITY since it's a grimdark, serious story.

>>158251594
can't even happen* because everything is so uncanny

>>158251594
I heard something about a money embezzlement or laundering scheme.

Instead of this shit fest I would've preferred a motion comic with good VA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG0UUdGI01o

I never asked for an adaptation. In fact, id rather animefags to stay away from Berserk.

Can someone explain to me how people think CG in anime is at all acceptable ever?

CG doesn't even look good in mecha shows.

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>>158250080
I've given Berserk 2016/17 a LOT of slack due to the low budget animations.
BUT
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT SCENE?
seriously, what were they thinking?
If they didn't have the time to properly make that serene, just don't include our little spinning friend.
IT has ZERO impact and is completely unnecessary.

>>158250080
Why is he rolling?

>>158251817
>people
Depends who you mean by "people," really. Executives? Animators? Viewers? A lot of viewers hate it, and some animators hate it, but depending on the situation it takes less time and/or money, which obviously the financial side likes, but which also means that it can be useful to animators if they have limited manpower to devote to stuff - 3D lets background cars move without detracting as much effort from other aspects of a scene, for example.

>CG doesn't even look good in mecha shows.
Orange's looks pretty good nowadays.

>>158251971
NO one knows.
it's doesn't make any sense.

i initially thought my stream glitched out.

>>158249832
It's really hard to take important scenes seriously when they make you laugh at how dumb they look

>>158250416
This looks like something that came from those early "3D EXPERIENCE" games from the 90's

>>158250416
so i just found and watched this scene and it doesn't look nearly as bad as that WEBM.
i think that WebM just has a shitty framerate or something.

It's cutting corners for sure though

>>158251936
I can just imagine
>"well this looks good producer-san, nice first rough draft can't wait to see what it looks like before it airs"
>Uhh it airs in 5 minutes
>shiiiiiieeeeet

>>158250416
>>158252098
This. Webm is actually pretty biased against CG in anime. It doesn't look nearly that bad. It's honestly pretty stupid that you people think a webm actually proves something..

>>158252135
i work in Aerospace and i'm fully aware that deadlines can make everyone go into panic mode.
but those guys could have just deleted Isidro all together.
>>158252167
ive watched a few on /a/ and they all look like garbage while the show is like 6/10 acceptable.

>>158250080
>>158250416
Fucking hell, this looks even worse than the first season. Might have to pick it back up.

>>158250415
That's when boku no pico started anon. You should learn some history.

>>158249832
but you're wrong, anon

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>>158249832
Is there any hope for Berserk to be animated by a different studio or is the franchise just so perpetually fucked from here on out?

>>158249832
>manga looks good
>anime looks like ass
Therefore there was no reason for it to be made desu.

>>158252240
Just give it 10 years anon. Another studio will come along and fuck up the animation again.

>>158252213
>Fucking hell, this looks even worse than the first season
season 2 is acually better than season 1 by far.
these Webms are misleading as they look way worse than the actual show.

>>158252310
Looks the same as the jewtube videos I've seen

>>158250447

>OP will defend this godly South Park animation

>>158249832
Honestly you should be banned for this shitpost

>>158252338
i just watched it on crunchyroll and it's night and day different.

not saying the CGI isn't bad, but it's not as bad as that Webm
also, Youtube has a bunch of weird compression bullshit so you can't use it to compare quality.

>>158252167
>Webm is actually pretty biased against CG
how does that make sense? It's just a clip it looks exactly like that in the show and it made me sick there as well before I saw the webms

>>158252240
You better pray to hell that Netflix pays Mappa in gold to animate Berserk for their "GoT killer"

>>158252379
>i just watched it on crunchyroll
Fuck off and kill yourself, nigger. As if they don't have shitty encoding themselves, anyway.

>>158250777
That hair is actually perfect. Everything I want. Thick, long as hell, high ponytail, brunette. HNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG

>>158252310
>>158252167
What the fuck are you even saying?

>>158252379
>i just watched it on crunchyroll and it's night and day different.

had me going there for a bit

>>158251256
Sure its animated via model rigging. Completely different kind of animation though.
Its not anime and I will never concede that CGI counts as anime. It doesnt even require 1/10th the effort.

>>158252438
not the same person

>>158252447
it's far different than the Webm.
idk what else to tell you

>>158252479
>not the same person
I'm not claiming you are. You're both saying retarded shit.

>>158252479
>it's far different than the Webm

Its really not lmao, just tried to watch the first episode before.
Why are you shilling so hard for this pile of shit? You the producer?

>>158252489
>You're both saying retarded shit.
HOW?
the real show doesn't look nearly as bad as that Webm.

Is that hard for you to understand?

>See this OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDbctEO2qjQ
>Get hyped by the music
>Get to the Casca rape part
>Can't believe what I'm seeing
I mean, how tasteless is that? That's supposed to be a disturbing, horrifying moment that shows us how far gone Griffith is, and how Casca was completely mind broken. And they totally cheapened it by putting it in the beginning of every episode, with some hyped up rock music over it. What the fuck were they thinking?

>>158252508
>what the fuck were they thinking

Very little. I doubt these people put much thought into anything.

>>158252505
No one's misunderstanding you, you dumb nigger. You're just wrong.

>>158252508
Also this J-Rock/Metal soundtrack is so unfitting. If there's one things the movies got right it was the soundtrack. You dont need stupid distorted guitars blasting the whole time. Its an epic story, both literally and figuratively. An epic is set to an orchestra not edgy emo music.
Its like 12 year olds made this show, just speedread the manga and didnt really focus on the important details at all.

>>158252538
>you dumb nigger.
go back to /pol/

also
not an argument.

Screenshots don't do it justice it looks a lot better in motion.

>>158252598
Look at this newfag and laugh

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>>158252616
>Anyone that disagrees with me is a nigger or newfag

>>158251139
Because, like they've done with s1 bd, the cg gets replaced with the 2d.

>>158252606
>there's people defending this trash
That's it. I hope for WW3.

>>158251680
>miura owes money to the yakuza
>has to repay them somehow and the only thing he can do is act as a washing machine with one of his works
There might be something to this.

>>158252859
IT has enjoyable moments.
but the CGI is still extremely distracting

Watching it doesn't do it justice, it looks better in my head.

>>158249832
>perfectly decent adaptation

>>158252683
Wasnt even that anon, you're just a newfag.

>>158252859
Not far off anon, cant wait to thin the herd.

>>158252983
Nothing enjoyable about this >>158252240

>>158253161
again, that WEBm is misleading.
the real show doesnt look that bad.

did you even read the thread before commenting?

>>158253223
Are you saying that scene didn't look as bad?

Can you post a webm of it then?

>>158253260
i'm saying the webm format doesn't like CGI for some reason

i watched the scenes back to back and the Webm is fucking up somehow.

>>158253223
I'm watching the show you goddamn autist.

>>158253318
ok?

>>158253314
What the actual fuck are you trying to say here?

How does it differ? Explain with more detail.

>>158250080
>Dark souls speed run

>>158253318
Wow, big wolf on campus over here.

>>158253341
Well that Webm has a weird frame rate and color for starters
someone with editing knowledge could probably tell you the technical reasons.

there's a very large difference between the show and that clip.

>>158251987
>>158251971

Isn't that the part where he was trying out his technique where he rolls under the attack of some dude and then comes out of it with a slash to the belly?
If I recall correctly from the manga he came up with it during a fight, and then he kept doing it for a while to show off.

>>158253388
>frame rate

It doesn't matter what framerate its at, it's the torso's movements that look like somebody is moving a fucking doll.

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It's the Mars of Destruction of our time. You got to have actual brain damage to enjoy it on an unironic level.

>>158253426
>torso's movements
that's directly tied to the frame rate mang.

>>158253464
>directly tied to the frame rate mang

The framerate doesn't animate things, idiot. Merely upping the framerate doesn't make things move more naturally.

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>>158253388
>>158253464
This guy.

>>158249832
It pains me to recognize it, but this show is awful. I m only watching it because it s Berserk but hell, the rendering/lighting is ugly, the CGI is badly integrated and the animation sucks.
The only good point besides being Berserk is the characters models are actually good.

>>158251332
I don't care whatever fuck "anime fans" say, but you cannot deny that >>158250416 and >>158250447 makes bocu no piko looks like Oscar material

>>158253499
cutting the frame rate in 1/3 is gonna make animations look shitty man.

it's obvious in that ZOD webm
as his hand just transforms between frames.

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>>158253373
>you

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>>158253520
>character models are actually good
I totally agree, friend.

Oh you were talking about the anime? Good fucking joke. They all look like garbage. Especially Guts.

>>158249832
>we

>>158249832
the only reason because i watch this shit is that it's berserk

>>158253780
Don't think so. Armors are detailed, nicely done and the characters of the show are faithful to their manga version. The rig sucks but the model in itself is doing his part.

>>158252461
>takes 1/10th the effort
Do your research nigger, in berserks case, sure it's less effort.
But things like the berserk films it's actually more effort

>>158254371
You have never drawn a single frame of an animation in your fucking life. You have no idea how much work goes into animation.

>>158254371
>things like the berserk films it's actually more effort
Then why'd they make it CGI in the first place when it looks worse?

>>158250416
>>158250080
Is this fucking real m8s? This is fucking terrible like those fan made touhou music video things

>>158254468
Not the guy you were talking to.
Certain complex scene arrangements are impossible to draw. And they obviously thought it wouldn't look like shit when they made the decision to use it. The people who made the new anime could have gotten a hint from all of the critics of the movies who said the CGI looked like shit.

>>158252508
Just shows how retarded the people behind the anime are

>>158253423
Yes that's it. During volume 24 or 25, even in the manga this scene is supposed to be funny.

>>158252167
>webms are interpolating frames in muh arm fade out
Oh fuck off, that isnt related to file format or presentation in the slightest, that hand fade is simply a lazy shitty animation technique.

>>158253628
holy shit just stop, that was the actual episode, we all saw it, that episode was of especially low quality compared to the other episodes but the other episodes are pretty bad as well.

>>158252583
Yeah, the old intro was SO much better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2rV8oKWSdM

>>158255576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhEzb-FCFnk

>>158254778
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>>158249832
>Is a perfectly decent adaptation
That would be Berserk (1997)
>Is hated just because it's in CG
Is hated because it's shit CG

>>158255959
All CG is shit CG to you people. You just can't be pleased.

>>158255959
>Berserk (1997)
>Perfect adaptation

I love the show but it is not a good adaptation of the manga at all

>>158256078
Nobody said "perfect adaption", it says "perfectly decent" and it's a fucking good adaption of the Golden Age arc all things considered.

We would be blessed by Femto to have an adaption of similar quality even if it had slight differences or even better if the 1997 adaption didn't stop where it did.

Any differences to the manga and any content not present in the adaption was caused by the studio having a limited budget and having to cover the golden age arc in 24 episodes.

It was pretty fucking great for what it was and captured the feel of the arc perfectly.

>>158256171
Ah my bad misread
In all honestly though if you take off the nostalgia goggles it was a pretty badly animated show even for the time, its budget was tiny
They left out several key plot points and characters

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>>158256362

not true at all, saw the blu-ray recently and it looks very well, especially the watercolored still-images

of course it is no evangelion or cowboy bebop in terms of animation, but it is perfectly fine, and compared to the dogshit we get now it is miles ahead in everything

>>158256171
at least someone that agrees with me

>>158256362
The animation was fine most of the time, it just had a lot of still shots. It was a great adaption and a masterpiece if you compare it to the modern Berserk movies or the 2016/17 anime.

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>>158255576
It is. There's nothing wong with it at all.

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>>158256877
>>158256922
Pretty much anything is a masterpiece compared to this garbage >>158250416

>>158249832
Are you referring to the Golden Age movies???
I hope you are.

>>158249832
WHY THE FUCK DID THEY MAKE IT CGI? WHAT WAS THE FUCKING REASONING BEHIND IT? HOW THE FUCKING FUCKITY FUCK DOES IT HELP?

>>158257123
CG is the future of anime

>>158257123
Money goy
Its all about the money

>>158257123
it's cheap as fuck

each episode costs less than a burger and a diet coke senpai

>>158257123
Mostly it's about money. But Berserk does have a lot of things that are difficult to animate. Large armies and many transforming monsters for example. It is really hard to bring Miuras panels to life with regular animation.

>>158257402
If that's the case it should not have been made at all.

>>158257123
Because:
A. Berserk is a manga that's centered around grand vistas, fluid action, and large-scale battles; and that shit isn't cheap to animate,
B. Production Companies are niggardly with their budgets at the best of times, the cunts with the KonoSuba license only greenlit a 10-episode cheapass S2 despite the first season selling gangbusters; no one has either the money or the willingness to properly fund a Berserk adaptation, and
C. Miura is a creatively-bankrupt hasbeen that'll rubber-stamp anything with his mealticket's name if it means more money to hire hookers that'll dress up like his waifu Chihaya.

The only way, and I mean ONLY way you'll ever see a quality adaptation of Berserk is if an insanely rich auter like James Cameron somehow becomes enamored by the property and agrees to fund a Hollywood film entirely on his own dime.

>One of the most influential and celebrated dark fantasy series in history
>Not one company is willing to properly fund it
>Only a literal who with nothing but pandering garbage under his belt is given the directorial seat

How
why
why is this the way things are?

>>158257402
Honestly the movies did this shit more justice. They used the CG where it made economic sense and the rest was still beautifully drawn and animated.

>mfw 2 totally different both both adequate adaptations of the golden age arc

>this shit for the rest
>missing children / black swordsmen never

Some scene wasn't as good as the manga and the sound choice don't match the scenes. The art is good imho even if its CG

>>158257123
>>158257140
>>158257376
>>158257402
>>158257605
>>158257681
Then why can other shows do amazing action, monster fights and stuff like that, with no problem? Let's look at some examples.

>Attack on titan.
Still ongoing, has giant monsters every episode, a kinda medieval setting, but still uses traditional animation and manages to create some pretty amazing scenes while it's at it.

>Fate/Zero
Another example of amazing animation doing many creative and beautiful action scenes. Armies, monsters, armors and everything else looks fine.

>Seven deadly sins.
Another show in a medieval setting, featuring knights, giant transforming monsters and many well made action scenes. Sure it's style is more ''cartoony'' than the other examples, but at least it is pleasant to look at.

And even complete garbage like SAO, UBW and Re:Zero can look nice, have top of the line animation and all that good stuff.

So other shows can pull off good animation, good visuals, armies, monsters etc. Why not berserk. If any of the studios that made the shows i mentioned, made berserk, it would at least be watchable and enjoyable, even if it can capture the mangas art 100%.

Here is my prediction for Berserk. Once the manga finishes (and if we are 100% serious about it, then it might be in the next 5-10 years.), we will get a faithful remake of berserk (similar to how Fullmetal alchemist and Hellsing had a shitty anime, when the manga was ongoing, and a good one, once the manga ended). I hope they do it as monthly OVA's like Hellsing and Gundam unicorn. Those two looked fucking incredible, and got away with all the R-rated shit.

>>158254545
No those have better animations

>>158249832
I don't hate things just because they're CG. Granted, I'm really *leery* about CG because I think on the whole the Japanese just aren't very good with it, but that doesn't mean I just write it off or am prejudiced to it.

I watched Ajin and really liked it, for example.

Berserk 2017 is just REALLY fucking terrible, which pisses me off because Berserk 1996 is in my top 3 anime of all time. The Berserk manga in particular I genuinely believe to have the most consistently high quality artwork of anything else ever made, and that's pretty goddamn high praise.

And considering how I'd actually identify myself as a diehard Berserk fan and yet I STILL couldn't stomach this trash to the point that I dropped it around the time Mozgus transformed, that just goes to show how bad it really is.

>>158258164
>Attack on titan
Is talking heads 90% the time and it still has scheduling issues and animation errors out the ass.

>Fate/Zero
Was filled with QUALITY, much of which wasn't fixed for the Blu-Rays. It's an atrocious adaptation all 'round though.

>Seven Deadly Sins
I don't watch garbage so I can't vouch for this one.

>SAO, UBW, Re:Zero
Were we watching the same shows? SAO was full of panning stills and talking heads, UBW had exactly the same flaws as F/Z due to having the same staff working on it, and Re:Zero looked downright mediocre throughout as is the standard for White Fox.
No anime and no animation studio has ever brought forth anything close to the scale of the action or the breakneck narrative pacing of Berserk. There's no way to animate this series to an acceptable standard without a monthly airing schedule and/or charging $200 per BD.

well at least they skiped best arcs so they can be properly adapted in the future

>>158258753
>No anime and no animation studio has ever brought forth anything close to the scale of the action or the breakneck narrative pacing of Berserk
Are you not aware that there was a 90's adaptation with shit budget and animation?

>>158258835
"To an acceptable standard"

>>158258973
It was to an acceptable standard, it's still on top of many people's favorite anime lists.

>>158259032
They're wrong. But that's okay, they're allowed to be.

>>158259177
They aren't. You just have shit taste.

>>158259212
>*You just have taste.
Fixed that for you.

What's strange is that sometimes they cut to 2D animation, and it looks passable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtatJZUmCzc

I remember everyone was shitting on golden age movies when they came out, especially 2nd one, but now I bet you'd sell your souls for 2017 anime fights to look like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3i-CAGHtKU&t=47m15s

>>158251332
yeah, because people sure hated Tiger and Bunny

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Only thing I'm hoping is that the Blu-Ray of Season 2 incorporates more 2D like the Season 1 Blu-Ray
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nDzg-F_09M
(NSFW, BD is left image)

>>158250080
>>158250416
Last couple of episodes have been quite bad for some reason

>>158259835
Final episode of the season airs tomorrow, so maybe they could redeem it, if only a little?

>>158259901
S3 confirmed?
They should adapt the whole manga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI7FqvX21eI
it alright

Berserk should just be yearly OVAs

>>158258753
Yeah, every anime has some minor QUALITY moments and errors. But a few small, funny looking shots, still don't take away from AOT, F/Z and NNT, having really good looking animation, and being capable of doing thing berserk does (and those few moments of quality are not as laugh out loud bad as >>158252240 >>158250416 >>158250080 ).
.

>>158260717
my dream is that Netflix tries to get an anime adaption when Berserk draws closer to a conclusion, but who the fuck knows what when that will happen.

>>158260717
>>158258164
I agree, Berserk should be an OVA series. It would be super, if they do it Hellsing style. 2 or 3 big budget, hour long OVA's a year, adapting every arc. I wonder, how long it would have to be? If it airs for a decade or so, then the manga has to be finished by the time it catches up?

Just imagine Berserk being done with a theatrical budget, like these two:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTmLHoBA9es
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUwPcpDlq_I

>>158252387
>netflix
>berserk
No

>>158262334
If we go with hour+ long OVA's, then let's see:
Black swordsman arc would be about 2 episodes.
Golden age would be about 8 episodes.
Conviction would be around 5 episodes.
Millennium falcon arc would be another 8 episodes.
And the boat/fantasia arc is still ongoing, but maybe 4 episodes right now.
Thats 27 over hour long OVA episodes, so more than 10 years.

>>158262690
they're sponsoring Devilman. Why not?

>>158262752
>so more than 10 years.
seems about as long as Hellsing Ultimate took to finish and that was a completed series.

>>158262791
Nah, it took 6 years for hellsings 10 episodes.

>>158262791
>>158262943
episodes which were around one volume each.

That means a production that would last for more than 20 years for Berserk.

>>158256045
Not true, the Jojo Openings had great CG. Berserk CG animation is shit both in relative terms and on it's own.

>>158256877
>>158255959

The big problem with the 1997 adaptation is they relied heavily on pans and recycling animation to save money.

But damn, considering the overall quality of the show and looking at this new adaptation, it's perfectly fine for it.

I can't take anyone seriously who doesn't appreciate the adaptation when they watch every single episode of it.

>>158250194
>cheapest-looking TV anime of the past 2 centuries
someone hasn't watched a lot of anime here.

>>158258164
>>158258753
Even if none of those shows he listed are great, they're all at least mediocre at worst. Berserk 2016/17 is fucking SHIT on a screen. It is actively bad, I could make a much better berserk anime by coloring the manga and making a slideshow out of it.

>>158263155
I can't think of many that match Berserk in the "looks like shit" department outside memes like Musashi Gundou.

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>>158255959
I remember movie did that scene better.

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How does this even work? Do publishers choose the studios or is it the other way around?

>>158263254
The movie did a lot of individual scenes better, like Guts vs Caska or Guts escaping after killing the noble. The problem is that despite having potentially the same runtime as the anime series, the story was told overall worse. Also pretty shit backgrounds and CG faces were a mistake.

I liked CG Zodd though.

>>158263311
>Miura watches Teekyu
Holy shit

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>>158263047
>The big problem with the 1997 adaptation is they relied heavily on pans and recycling animation to save money.

Thing is that's absolutely fine if they maintain it throughout the show. Consistency is always better over obvious inconsistency because of budget. I know I'm comparing OVA to a TV series, but compare old The Heroic Legend of Arslan to the new show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjCFnAqaogI

Director who gave a damn about, well, direction and wanted to create something with artistic worked on that OVA while series has seemingly crisper visuals, but that CG and basic as fuck camera work sinks it. Character designs are their own matter.

>>158263388
I said it was fine myself. Sure, it looks on the cheap side, but the art quality is great and it's used intelligently for a high quality end result despite the cut corners. Incomparably better to Neo Berserk CGshit.

>>158263388
Also, 1991 looks amazing, but isn't it a movie?

>>158263742
Nah, OVA. I think it covered the same ground as the first season of TV series.

>>158263897
Well, those are usually higher budget, aren't they? Don't get me wrong, '91 has clearly superior direction, but a lot of those complex sweeping shots are probably too much for a tv adaptation today. Anime budget in general seems to have fallen a lot. The Jojo OVA compared to the TV series is a pretty similar example.

>>158252167
>posts a completely unedited scene from the anime
>biased
why on earth does anyone anyone defend this garbage adaption?

>>158251680
not sure what it is that they doing but the fact that this exist only for money reasons has become kinda obvious at this point

>>158252240
>when you draw Gut's abs where a human chest should be but get away with it because bad animation is more noticeable than your mistake.

>>158264328
>adaption
Adaptation.

>>158265231
Abortion.

>>158264738
Holy shit you're right, what the fuck, how did that even happen?

>>158253435
It's the Other M effect. The actual fanbase hates it so hard that it's easy pickings for trolling. When it's all said and done, the trolls then go around showing these threads to everyone as proof of how bad the "fanbase" is.

Enjoy never getting to have another good Berserk thread. It's all preordained.

>>158249832
>Perfectly decent
The beserk 2017 version is the "inproved" version with better cgi animation before that the 2016 version was even worse just let that sink in for a moment.

>>158265478
>implying another good metroid game isn't just around the corner
Nintendo will announce something big this E3, just you wait.

>>158265716
>Metroid Kart: Federation Forces

>nice

>>158263325
>97 berserk
>10 hours, 25 minutes, and 0 seconds
>Movies
>4 hours, 38 minutes, and 47 seconds
>potentially the same runtime as the anime series
Are you kidding me? They cut stuff out like madmen.

>>158254545
>>>/out/

>>158266414
I said potentially.
3 3 hour movies would have been quite close to the full anime runtime. They couldn't do that, so they made 3 90-ish minute movies. My point is that, in 3 movies, they had the time to be able to transcribe the series 1:1 (which would have been grossly unnecessary), but as you say, they cut out a lot and the pacing was kinda fucked.

>>158266539
Berserk 97 was 10 hours long, and even it left out a few scenes here and there (not to mention skull knight and Wyald). If you go under 10 hours, then it has to be non stop, constantly moving story. No atmosphere or quiet moments, no long action scenes etc. under 7 is already a disaster. Golden age just is about 10 hours worth of material.

>>158266755
The anime was padded a fair bit, anon, even if it did skip some stuff from the manga (that was unnecessary for adapting only the Golden Age).

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>>158253520
>the characters models are actually good
>Armors are detailed, nicely done and the characters of the show are faithful to their manga version
You sure you don't want to get your eyes checked?
The models in literally every other adaptation is more "faithful" to the manga than they are in the TV anime. I mean I guess you can recognize the characters but the models in this anime are of the lowest quality.

when will we get the episode that didn't air last week?

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>>158256045
>you just can't be pleased
Are you fucking blind? Have you even seen the CG used in the anime?
I swear I can never understand people who defend the anime when people complain about it, it's literally the worst-looking anime adaptation of the past decade.

>>158267687
Well how would've you done the transformation?
You fucking smartasses talking smack without understanding shit, he's a humanoid guy and he smoothly transforms into a beast, what the fuck do you want? A Sailor Moon-esque sequence? Do you fucking fags want to turn every anime into a shitty moeblob?
Berserk is a dark fantasy, sparkly magic and effects don't fit.

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>>158267826
Sometimes it's far preferable to imply gore and violence than it is to outright show it. There's tons of ways to get around poor animation and the staff behind Berserk doesn't know them.

>>158249832
>Is a perfectly decent adaptation
Gr8 b8 m8
>Is something we've asked for years
And somebody used the Monkey's Paw to wish for it.
>Is hated just because it's in CG
Because the CG is Dreamcast tier dogshit with grossly unprofessional animation.
>This is why we can't have nice things.
Here's your (You).

>>158258164
Attack on Titan, Fate/Zero, and Seven Deadly Sins are a lot more popular/mainstream franchises than Berserk, so there's interest for anime adaptations since they can do well reception-wise and commercially too.
Obviously a hand-drawn Berserk adaptation could have been made, but Berserk as a franchise is still pretty niche in Japan. The trilogy movies not doing so well in theatres was an indication to anime studios that it wouldn't be worth all the time and money spent making another Berserk anime if it doesn't have a good reception anyway.

We only managed to get another Berserk anime as a very low-budget
project because of this. Honestly I'm surprised that we even got a new anime, but after seeing the final product I think it would've been better to just not have it in the first place. The only positive outcome from this anime is that it's advertising Berserk again, and more people are getting into it, which is good, at least over here in the West, and it's now the most best-selling title for the Dark Horse publisher.
Hopefully more people are getting to read Berserk in Nipland too and that this makes Miura want to continue churning out chapters on a more regular basis.

I'd like to add that Shingeki no Bahamut has fully hand-drawn people in armor too and has many fantasy elements as well. But it's mostly a passion project by Cygames, so in the end it's pretty much all about money.

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>>158249832

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>>158259649
Even though the 2D animation looks kind of wonky, it makes me think that they could've made the anime this way if they were given all the time needed.
The 2D shots really look miles better than the CGI shit. This frame was literally the best part of the entire episode, aside from the ending still of the Berserker armor.

>>158268068
But there are so many shows that have a source material that is far less popular than berserk, yet they get a normal tv anime for some reason.

>>158259901
>Final episode
Anon tomorrow's episode is #10, there's still episodes 11, 12, and 13 left.

>>158259963
>Season 3?
I hope not, they would make the whole Ganishka fight look like utter crap.
I have a feeling that they'll end it with the second season.

>>158263155
I meant 2 decades, but really have you seen other anime with this level of ugly characters and camera movement? Super cheap 2D adaptations are one thing, but a super cheap CGI anime is even worse. The characters all look lifeless, and there's zero detail/shading on the clothes. At least in a cheap 2D anime you can have frames expressing character emotion and details on the characters.

>>158267826
https://youtu.be/7Zo5vTIf_5o?t=4m45s
https://youtu.be/kCZw_6eJC1A?t=1m58s
Literally could have added some smoke and it would not have been a laugh out loud moment.
>>158267909
I agree with this guy. They could have just implied that Zodd transformed, by having the other guy look up at him, have Zodd's shadow get bigger and then show his transformed arm.

>>158267826
>he's a humanoid guy and he smoothly transforms into a beast
There's nothing smooth about it, Zodd just pops into monster mode like a Hanna-Barbera cartoon.

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>there gonna be s3 of this

How well is season 2 doing in japan, numbers wise? Is it a bomb or a bestseller? Do the nips like it? Do we have any reviews/comments from the nips, about the quality of this season? And how bad does it have to do, to stop a third season from happening?
I have seen shows with 10 times more popularity than berserk 2016/17, not get a sequel, but i have a bad feeling that they will announce season 3 at the end of the last episode.

>>158268650
Why is he talking without moving his mouth?

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>>158267826
Are you implying nothing else could've looked better? They literally zoomed in on the hand and did a fade transition when the entire goddamn storyboard is laid out for them in the source material.
If the directing were any better they could've just followed the manga by having a close-up shot of the eye, next shot have the arm in a transitioning look, and then have the next shot showing the fully transformed hand crushing the apostle.

>>158268827
The first season's first box set sold only 803 copies, and I'm pretty sure it sold about the same or even lower for the second box set. So it fucking bombed sales-wise. Also the anime barely had any merchandise aside from like 10 keychains and 4 posters so all in all they probably already knew that they wouldn't sell much.
Nips probably just don't talk much about it anymore since they're not interested.
And I think the anime staff did plan to make 2 seasons initially, so I don't think they would make a third one. No use making more when it's all universally disliked.

>>158262760
>>158262690
>>158252387
Netflix's anime team actually has gone for some particularly odd choices. Like the Seven Deadly Sins anime, which was pretty good, and Blame!
Berserk getting picked up by them would actually be good as long as it doesn't get 3d animation

>>158263990
Well, the JoJo anime had 48 episodes which the budget needed to be spread across.

>>158268982
The apostles talk that way in their monster form.

>>158269243
>Berserk getting picked up by them would actually be good as long as it doesn't get 3d animation

Why not? I'd rather they go to the same people who did Gantz:0. Movies showed they can't do both and the new show just uses shit CG altogether.

>>158269681
Gantz:O was insanely good, but I don't think that they'd be able to use that quality of animation for a series. One movie for sure though.

>>158268255

This. Even if the movies where somewhat watchable despise the CGI the tv show is not.
They should have kept making ova/movies.

>>158251495
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyJSh1rhhiU

>>158249832
>perfectly decent adaptation
that's where you're wrong kiddo

>>158251332
But anon, that's still ugly as shit CG.

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>>158263325
>shit backgrounds
Did we watch the same movies?

It's better to never get an adaptation than to have it be shit CG.

>>158250080

It's worse than RWBY. How is it possible that a couple of amateurs doing a show can do a better job than a professional studio?

>>158275236
The Berserk staff had less than 500 days to work on the anime.

Someone post the webm of cascas cute little bum in the hot tub

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>perfectly decent

>>158249832
animefans suck

>>158269243
>the Seven Deadly Sins anime
That was just a licensing. Blame is the only actual Netflix original anime so far.

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>>158250113
>Chiwa Saito
>shit

>>158250424
This. I'll defend CG where it works and I can tolerate it and watch this but I won't defend it. It's garbage.

>>158253351
Kek

>>158255755
The webms didnt make the hand fade into a bigger one, which looks like shit, which is my point.

>>158279064
It's a well known fact that webms do that

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Some of us will die waiting while waiting for a decent adaptation. Let that sink in.

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>>158263155
>he hasn't been watching anime since the 1800's

>>158279354
>implying some of us didn't die waiting for the boat ride to end

>>158268562
anon.....someone show em the screenshot from the future we're getting two more seasons at the very least & I'm looking forward to it

>>158268325
>literally just traced

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>>158250080
Now I kinda of get how Guts felt when Femto was raping Casca in front of him.

>>158279354
They're never going to do another adaptation.
Sorry anon. This is it.

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>>158282445
look at the bright side berserk will never see Jill or pic-related again

>>158250212
You're a big guy

>>158258828
which arc was that?

>>158276785
Sure that could've been done better, but I still think it looks passable.

>>158249832
Wish this was the truth, but the chi is fucking horrendous, sometimes.
But I understand your point, kinda. No one wants to see another adaptation of the golden age, everybody agrees that Arc is the most important. But those little details it's what charmed people on the first place, and see something like that it's disappointing.

>>158249832
>>Is a perfectly decent adaptation
Let me stop you right there.

>>158249832
Everything about it is bad. EVERY SINGLE THING. Even if you didn't know what Berserk was, you should be able to see that from a mile away.

>>158283114
>look at the bright side berserk will never see Jill
What's wrong with Jill?
I'm actually dissapointed she is the only one who hasn't reappeared so far.

It looks like one of those Newgrounds flash movies that made you go: "Wow these guys really put some time into this".
But it still looks like a shitty flash movie.

>>158284134
stop

>>158286656
That looks like it's some alpha render waiting to get the post processing done.
Instead they didn't have enough money and put the alpha in lieu of the finished scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYtlcwXr6AA

I'm just happy a masculine show died. I hate masculine shows. I prefer cute girls doing cute things. Berskerk type things don't interest me, so they can just go away.

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>>158250080

>>158287541
>Everything about it is bad. EVERY SINGLE THING
Well, I mean, the opening song is pretty good.

>>158268827
It sold well, hopefully we'll see more of this

>we want berserk anime
>gets berserk anime
>nooooo we don't like this
sigh

>>158295329
>It sold well
For real? I thought Japs hated it.

>>158250080
A single bad scene meant for humor doesn't say anything about the overall quality you idiot

>>158250194
Very mature vocabulary, as expected from a berserk hater.

>>158250447
What's up with his abs? Is it just shadows, or did they actually place his muscles that far up?

>>158295376
Yeah?

Was this humour too?
>>158267687

I honestly don't see why people here hate CG so much. It has huge potential, and will most likely replace 2d in the future.

>>158295422
>and will most likely replace 2d in the future
Noooooooooooooooooooooo

>>158295490
It will. Why is this a problem?

>>158295560
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

>>158295422
>most likely replace 2d in the future

Nah.

>>158295422
The only time CG in Japan has been anywhere near good was with Shin Godzilla

>>158253568
>implying it wasn't Oscar material in the first place

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>>158249832

>>158295761
The CG Gantz movie looks amazing.

This is unironically the most meta anime of all time.

>>158295856
QUALITY

>>158295856
>Not even the OP is good
JUST

>>158295572
Because it's easy cheaper, faster to make, and looks just as good. There's no reason for it not to become the standard.

>>158295877
That's just budget in action.
The critical element Berserk 2016 lacks.

>>158249832
I bot the CGI, if it looked as smooth as Wakfu nearly nobody would complain.

>>158260010
The last fucking hope I had for this shitty adaptation was to hear the english cast again cause quite frank Guts in the japanese version sucks ass in terms of voice acting for this adaptation. But no, funimation picked it up and decided to be fucking funimation and get new voice actors cause they're assholes despite the original cast WANTING to be apart of this as well.

This adapation sucked in every possible way and the only positive I can think of that I got a few more Susumu Hirasawa songs out of it and that's literally it.

>>158283114
>implying
She'll be the one to kill Guts

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I'm wondering, is there other anime that look worse in the whole history of anime?

Even Toei animation look much better.

But the animation of this shitty Berserk abortion is the least of his worries. The directing in every single aspect is awful.

>>158250080
wait fuck s2 came out already?

>>158255576
It took a while for this to grow on me, but I love it now. I still think that Forces should have been the opening theme though.

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>>158275236
>It's worse than RWBY.
As good as, really.

when is ep 22 god damn it

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>>158296385
It's the Musashi Gundoh of our time.

>>158249832
People have the right to complain about things that bother them. The CG can be so bad its distracting.

For me its frustrating that a manga that is well known for having superb art is getting less than top notch animation effort. I understand that it probably wouldnt have been made otherwise, but its hard to accept.

>>158275236
RWBY has better action scenes that most 3DCG anime even post Monty.

>>158297243
>People have the right to complain about things that bother them
Yeah, that's the excuse /a/ uses to hate on anything that isn't moe.

>>158279354
I'm fine with that. The manga's all we need, and we're certainly never going to get a completely faithful adaptation until the manga is done. At this rate, I'll be in my fifties or sixties by the time that happens.

>>158298332
and that would make miura like 100. No, it wont ever end. Miura is going to die before that

>>158269243
If netflix hires Studio 4C to make it, then nothing will go wrong. They mastered 2d and CG in the thkrd movie.

>>158269243
Both of those suck

>>158297277
No

>>158250416
this can't be real

>>158263238
>>158268562
id-0 is airing just this season and has clunkier animation. the absolute state of /a/...

>>158252167
It's a flat video that captured the CGI mate, just like any other animation. It's not like there are actual 3D models used in that fuckin WEBM.

>>158297385
>Yeah, that's the excuse /a/ uses to hate on anything that isn't moe.
So whats your point?

>>158279354
Dont need no adaptation, ill settle for berserk finishing before im dead

>>158251971
He is practicing his technique for fighting. When guts was training him he said cause of his size he should stay low. He used it against a troll earlier and he refunes it as tge series goes on.

>>158249832
just admit it, it pure trash
kemono friendship is magic is doing pretty good despite a 3dcg shit

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>>158295856

Not like this...

>>158301471
So the only time CG isn't bad is when it's moeblob?

Typical. And /a/ acts like it has good taste.

>>158294526
It would suit Gurren Lagann better than Berserk. It's shit.

>>158296645
Well, this was independently produced in 2013, so it makes beserk look even worse in comparison

>>158301513
I think he's saying that the only way to do CGI on a TV anime budget is to make it very stylized and simple.
If you're trying to do something as detailed as beserk, it won't work.

>>158301613
That's a very complicated way of hating anything not moe.

>>158263238
That's because you don't watch anime. even everybody's favorite series kemono friends looks worse.

>>158250080
>sonic's my name speed's my game.gif

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any one know what time the new ep comes out?

>>158258164
>Seven Deadly Sins
>pleasant to look at
pick one.

>adapt anything except the quality

>>158295856
>my quality is like a truck...

>>158250416
This is not real i won't believe it.

>>158302448
It seems CR simulcast today is delayed because production issues.

>>158302578
It has a very pleasant art style.

>>158255576
Worst anime OP of all time

>>158296476
>I still think that Forces should have been the opening theme though.
I think Forces was better as it was used throughout the series. Hearing it at the beginning of each episode would've cheapened the feeling of impending action and tensity it gave. A similar song would've been better than Tell Me Why though.

also the lyrics of the ending song was nonsensical as well, which was disappointing, the melody is really nice.

People focus too much on how the characters move and that's why they hate it, it's kinda irrational

Motion is irrelevant to animation, if you focus on the art and story you'll enjoy it

>>158305838
>Motion is irrelevant to animation
Anon I think your retard helmet is fastened on a bit tight.

>>158305838
then just read the manga, it has a much much better art and story than this piece of hot crap

>>158250447
>>158250416
>>158250080
>>158252240
>>158267687
>all from the same episode
We all know they made that episode in 5 minutes and are making the entiire time to make the next one, because of the battle with the berserk armor

>they delayed it
>Again
Now this really feels like Berserk.

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>>158305838
>Motion is irrelevant to animation

What the fuck am I reading

>>158306040
they're staying true to the source

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>>158302448
>>158303718
Holy shit, you can't make this up. They needed 2 weeks and 4 extra hours to churn out another ugly shitfest.

>>158295401
Anon does it even matter anymore

>>158307223
Raw was out a couple hours ago.

>>158307267
Where?

I'm actually really enjoying it. The CGI is not perfect but it's still very good and it means objects like Guts's sword is super consistent in size and shape and has a solidity that drawn stuff lacks. They really nailed the sword, especially the sound when he swings it. It sounds like a cannon going off. I know /a/ doesn't like it, but I look forward to a new episode every week.

>>158307455
https://nyaa.si/view/929553

>>158307531
Thanks.

Holy shit we sonic now
>>158307184

>>158306040
The ride never ends

>>158307494
Fuck it, I'm going to watch it.

>>158286656
If you allow yourself to have such low standards, then it's all you'll ever get from studios.

>>158295422
Because the nips are, for a variety or reasons, absolutely awful with CGI.

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>>158305838
>motion is irrelevant to animation
Why do people even bother to bait like this? For the (you)s? Here, have one. Does that fill the roaring void inside of you?

>>158252505
>the real show doesn't look nearly as bad as that Webm.
oh but it does

>>158310862
In your experience maybe. But in my experience, no.

>>158311085
ok??

>>158311085
You have yet to post proof of your claims that the actual show doesn't look as bad as the webm.
I'm not going to take some anon at their word, especially when the opposition has actually posted evidence.

>>158311319
How can I prove something subjective? You're being completely unreasonable?

>>158311657
It isn't subjective. You're claiming that the webm changes how the show looks. Compare them side by side, the same scene in the anime and the webm and show the differences.
FPS differences, animation differences, color differences, all of those and more are not subjective but can in fact be compared objectively.

>>158263254

fuck man he looks like a ugly pig

in fact the art direction of the movies was pretty godawful

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>>158295856

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>>158295877
>amazing
It's ok, kinda. But if you consider that it's a movie then it has many shortcomings. It's not so much QUALITY and more that the limitations of the technology they use are blatantly obvious.

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>>158310078
The void will never be filled. Those who hunger for yous will forever stalk these plains, never sated, always craving.