Why is horror manga/anime so scarce and unpopular?

>>158220597
Because it's all the same shit, weird faces and eyes, there's nothing more to it

>>158220692
But you are wrong

>>158220692
This
Asian horror is fucking boring and silly

>>158220597
Because you can find better horror outside of the horror genre because the horror genre is fucking trash.

>>158220597
I want to ask something
Does anyone get scared when they read horror manga?
Because i read shitton of this and i didn't get scared even once.
Even horror anime

because it's never scary

>>158221078
Read Tomie in nighttime, scared? I'd say yes, I was a little.

>>158220597
Because we're in the era of kawaii girls and moeblobs
Everything else doesn't matter unless it's a classic

>>158221078
The visual novels are scary though. Just by their atmosphere.

>>158221078

got freaked out a little reading junji once.

only thing that has seriously scared me was fucking terra formars

>>158220597
because it sucks nigga

>/a/ hates horror
>/a/ loves moeblobs and shonen shit
What the fuck happened?

>>158221405
kids found 4chan

>>158220597
Yami Shibai was kinda spoopy.

>>158221405
Everything went to shit since gg. Also, the reddit invasion that keeps growing since the last years.

There's not a lot of great examples of it. Horror manga requires both writing and art. Portus is great to look at but the writing is pretty bad.

Compare it to other genres where the artwork can just be charming and serve to carry the characters/writing.

>>158221571
Watched the first season and it was 90% of ear-raping spook scares.

Kagewani was much better when it came to building atmosphere and keeping up tension, some reasons being lack of ear-rape, a more realistic artstyle, rememberable characters (both humans and monsters), and well-paced directing. While some episodes were definitely unintentionally funny (eg. the ceiling turtle), most of them managed to set their mood properly whether it was suspense, panic, or disgust.
Also, ARRIVAL OF FEAAAAAAAAR

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Silly /a/nons that think the thrill of horror is about being scared

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>>158220597
I don't understand why horror as a genre is popular in the first place. I like more atmospheric horror like Kuro and Ghost Hound and Dead Space but the vast majority of horror tries to be as gory as possible and chock full of jump scares for some reason.

>>158222074
Because it's fun and the settings are limitless.

How is a cartoon suppose to be scary?
It's literally not real, so there's no possibility at all of a threat happening to you.

>>158221684
This.

>>158222135
How is a cartoon supposed to be funny/cute/romantic/etc? It's not real

>>158222135
How is resident evil 7 with VR even scary? It's not real

>>158222135
Horror novels have been a thing for ages. But it takes more to make drawings scary I'd think.

Something like:
Video Games>Film>Book>Cartoon

Anyways as far as horror manga goes there are a few good ones but most of them don't pull it off well.

>>158222074
Dead Space is both less atmospheric and more gorey than almost any horror manga.

>>158221078
I remember reading Uzumaki like 10 years ago during the night and a scene involving a staircase going down to the basement creeping me out (can't remember what exactly).
I think that's the only instance of me being scared by manga/anime.
I probably should re-read Uzumaki someday.

>>158222221
Not the same thing, you're retarded. Something can only be scary if it's a threat to your well being.

>>158222247
It's not. Who actually thinks it's scary?

>>158222403
Dead Space 1 only becomes scary when you play it in imposible, you fear for your life at every corner. The anmo is so scarce that you'll have to slow enemies and run away.

>>158222221
How can demonstrate and ghost be scary if they aren't real
How can cockroaches be scary if they can't really harm you
How can the dark be scary if you don't see anything
How can noises be scary if it doesn't physically hurt you
How can divorce be scary if all you lose is paper with imaginary value
How can death be scary if you can't be conscious
How can the unknown be scary if it's not known

>>158222548
That's not scary, being annoying to play doesn't make something scary. Being afraid of your fictional life isn't scary after your first death.

>>158222495
I love horror stuff but I never get scared. Horror is not about being scared to begin with. You just don't like/understand the genre.

>>>158220597
I love the creepiness more thant the horror, weird stuff it's entertaining.

>158222461
You should, and other works from Junji Ito if you still haven't.

>>158222556
They aren't.
No one is really scared of cockroaches, but they are disease ridden, and used to be one of the things that spread the plague.
The dark prevents you from seeing threats, thus is a threat itself.
Noise can psychically hurt you, you dumb fuck.
Money is not an imaginary value, and who hell thinks that's scary?

I mean, you're not even smart enough to type correctly and literally all of your examples are wrong.

>>158222607
Horror is literally define by intense fear, disgust and shock.

>>158222618
What are you doing anon?

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Anyone reading this?

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>>158222652

>but they are disease ridden

That is dependent entirely on their environment. The average roach is probably cleaner than you are.

>>158222618
>>158222689
Failing quoting >>158222461

>>158222652
You are a very autistic person.

>>158222693
I can't read it if I don't know the name.

>>158220597
Because Japan consider horror shitty child ghosts you can kill with dick strikes?

Manga/anime is just bad for any kind of horror and no adult men should be scared about "scary" stuff displayed in a screen anyways

>>158222655
Not really. I've seen/read/heard so many horror stuff so far that I'm practically desensitized by it. And I still love it.

>>158222652
>Noise isn't scary if it doesn't hurt you
>if it doesn't hurt you
Reading comprehension. Get it.

It's hard to not come off as cheesy. I don't know why all asian horror has this feeling.

>>158220597
Most anime/manga art style don't look very creepy sans a few exceptions, most of the time it looks more stupid than unsettling.

>>158222652
this >>158222848 anon has a point

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>>158222783
Spooky ghost waifu.

It's not. It's just actual scary ones are scarce.

>>158222652
>The dark prevents you from seeing threats, thus is a threat itself.
and thus 'The Dark' is scary, you just proved his own point not refute

>>158222736
It's funny, because you're the autistic one for not actually addressing anything that's said. I also love when people reply "autistic" while act autistic themselves.

>>158222848
>>158223014
>this anon
It's just you. And retard, the point is that can hurt you, which everyone knows, which is why you considering it a threat. Knowing it can hurt you is where the threat comes from, not if it's currently hurting you.

>>158222403
Stop your bullshitting, Dead Space if any fucking horror game is atmospheric as fuck. Now usually I'd refrain from making vidya posts on /a/, but I can not stand this fucking bold faced lie going uncalled.

>>158222403
I haven't played the sequels but the first one was definitely atmospheric. It was definitely gory but it wasn't in your face all the time.

>>158223064
You can't read at all. Not can you type.

>his
You.

>>158223112
Google it's your friend.

>>158223024
Now this is an image I can reverse search with. Thanks anon.

>>158223128
It's a shitty shooting corridor simulator.

>>158220597
You could say that about horror in every medium

>>158223206
Your mom is a shitty shooting corridor simulator

>>158223237
My mom is also not scary

>>158223217
Naah. Horror movies and vidya are plentiful, it's just rare that they're actually good.

>>158223123
kek

If you haven't noticed the recurring theme of happiness and confidence reassurance within anime, you clearly aren't aware of the reserved timid attitude that sweeps across 80% of the average Jap teenager

>>158223297
What's a good horror work?

>>158223347
Thanks for just continuing to show what a bad poster you are.

>>158223416
Franken Fran

>>158223416
Devilman

>>158223416
A Deserter in the House

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The only kind of horror that matters is existential horror desu

>>158223416
Yami no Koe

>>158220597
It's barely translated because no one wants anything to do with the cancer that plagues horror. Not even 50 replies and it's already a /v/ thread full of "kek" and "vydia".

>>158223484
That's more of a straight up gorefest, innit?

>>158223563
Maybe it's just me, but that story has been storytimed to death in LOL threads that it stopped being spooky. Ito's works ranges from gross to spooky to unexpectedly hilarious in general.

>>158223643
>That's more of a straight up gorefest, innit?

No, it's more psychological if anything.

>>158223416
Silent Hill WAS good. Lovecraft is good. Poe is good.

>>158223416
Gamesforgirls

>>158223618
>it's another glyceride re-read
How devilish

>>158223513
Devilman is not horror
>>158223642
Moeblobs and shonen shit is miles better right?

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>>158220597

>>158223643
>That's more of a straight up gorefest, innit?
I wouldn't call Franken Fran a horror. I think of it more like a macabre slice of life.

>>158223643
>Maybe it's just me, but that story has been storytimed to death in LOL threads that it stopped being spooky.
Ignoring the fanbase and just looking at the work itself, I still think it's one of his most spooky stories. The first time you read that one you're genuinely creeped out by that final reveal.

>>158223842
You make a good point. Horror is about the unexpected, and reading things where you already know what's going to happen takes a lot of the impact away. Now that I think about it, I do genuinely feel spooped out the first time.

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Because horror needs hard work to be good and nip artists that do that are scarce.

>>158223790
It's definitely horror, I'm not sure how you could ever consider it anything but that.

>Implying there is a correlation between genre and quality.
>Caring about something being a certain genre without actually caring about the purpose of a particular story.

>>158224023
Ah yes, I remember the part where two sentient fursuits have unprotected sex. Truly horrifying.

>>158224023
Because it's not scary, and it rarely ever tries to be scary. It's just dark. A bit like Berserk, I don't consider that a horror either despite it being shock full of horror elements and gore

Franken Fran is more like a comedy with horror elements

>>158224079
It doesn't matter what you consider it.

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Horror anime is probably ruined by the limits they can do on TV.

Even late at night I doubt they could do much.

>>158223899
>and reading things where you already know what's going to happen takes a lot of the impact away
Definitely. The ending of Amigara Fault terrified me for a while when I was younger, but I've seen and discussed that manga so many times on 4chan that it has absolutely no impact on me what so ever anymore. I can understand that a lot of people feel this way about Junji Ito. However he's still a creative genious when it comes to body horror art and character design, and some of his stories are still very well written.

>>158224098
But it's not scary, and it doesn't try to be scary. How can that be horror?

>>158224245
Just because you personally didn't find it scary doesn't make it not horror. Your subjective experience doesn't change a genre.

>>158224279
Then what fucking characteristics defines this comedy as a horror?

>>158224366
Maybe you should actually read it instead of shitposting you fucking /v/ crossposter.

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>>158220597
Plain horror doesn't sell, what we need is battle horror, isekai horror, idol horror.
Maybe with streaming sales getting huge they will try some.

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>>158224388
I HAVE read all of it you fucking imbecile, it's one of my favorite manga because of the fun one-off stories format and the fantastically drawn gore. I even made a fucking honey select card of her

But Franken Fran is not a horror. A few of the stories parody horror, but for the most part it's just a black comedy

>>158224501
>shonen
>isekai
>idolshit
Hope this is bait

>>158224501
>isekai horror
We already have Drifting Classroom. Not that I've ever read it, but I think it counts.

>>158224562
ESL?

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>>158224501
>idol horror.
I'm intrigued

Do you mean like horrible shit happening to cute idol girls, or do you mean an idol show where the girls are all different types of ghosts and japanese urban legends?

>>158221078
Don't know if it counts, but I read some of Ito Junji's stuff a few years back. Instead of feeling scared or frightened, I felt disgusted. Completely disgusted. That is something you rarely feel in any horror depiction.

I mean if you aren't disgusted by the sight of some dude squeezing his face full of zits on someone, you will be utterly disgusted by that, no matter what.

I feel like shit.

>>158224807
I don't know what that is.

>>158224854
>I mean if you aren't disgusted by the sight of some dude squeezing his face full of zits on someone, you will be utterly disgusted by that, no matter what.
I fucking knew this what was you were referring to even before I opened it. That manga is pretty widely considered to be by all means and interpretations of the word, really fucking disgusting

>>158224899
It means English as a second language. He's implying that your English is fucking terrible, though personally I don't see much grammatical mistakes minus the part where you put 'a' in front of 'horror' and 'black comedy'.

>>158224836
Perfect Blue?

>>158224974
It really makes you wonder if Ito has actually seen or experienced the things he draws and writes in his works. We almost always put small amounts of real things in fiction we create, we can't help it, and we almost never even realize it.

That man is truly deranged, but absolutely brilliant.

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>>158223746
This was pretty alright in my opinion

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>>158223484

.....PLEASE

>>158224993
>though personally I don't see much grammatical mistakes minus the part where you put 'a' in front of 'horror' and 'black comedy'.
Oh yeah, I guess that was kinda unnecessary

>>158225011
Oh right, I forgot about that one.

I liked it.

>>158225227
Same artist as the Chainsaw Chick?

>>158220597
because the "common" anime artstyle that many modern "horror" mangas / animes utilize doesnt fit with the athmosphere that a good piece of horror media should utilize, even though the black/white look should add a lot to it. but non-naturalistic proportions and the traces of idealized stilization like in OP's image fuck up the whole thing

>>158225227
>Reiko
>good
You've got to be joking.

>>158225138
He used to be a dental assistant, so I'd assume he's seen some awful shit since Japan doesn't care about mouth hygiene.

>>158223416
Gantz

>>158225505

>me joking

you sound that you probably never read it

>>158221551
More like you got old

>>158223416
Ibitsu

>>158221078
Not really, but I get a very uneasy feeling if I keep reading horror manga nonstop for a couple hours, specially if I try of binge ito's stuff.

Is weird, I even laugh at the strips in some cases so I'm certain it doesn't scare me, but it just feels like something is wrong or about to go wrong. If I go to get a glass of watee it feels like I'm alone in the house even if my folks are literally in the next room.

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>>158224836
Like the idols are the murderers and they get away with everything because of their big daddy CEO.

I think the only animated things I've seen that have ever haunted me were stop motion. Amateur claymation horror makes my skin crawl.
I've been unsettled by Junji Ito and Fuan no Tane, but really the most scared I've been by a Japanese thing was the RPG Maker game The Witch's House

>>158225753
I read it and I don't regret downloading the volumes instead of buying them like I originally planned. It was garbage compared to his more recent series.

If anything I was surprised it wasn't canceled halfway through since that was where the mangaka ran out of ideas and changed it into some short story anthology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYOc-LqkrsE


This wasn't scary, but it gave me chills.

>>158221078
The reason most horror literature and manga suck absolute dick is the fact that they rely so much on selling the horror through shocking images and atmosphere when both mediums are ridiculously inferior to cinema in that regard, which has both the benefit of setting a specific pace it needs and through concrete audio-visual stimulus. Any good horror literature will focus on worldbuilding, suspense and mystery instead. Not dumb shit like OP's pic.

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>>158227198
>doesn't regret downloading them
>he's telling me it was garbage anyway

who's joking right now?

>>158222135
Your common sense hurts me

Any horror involving social/current issues or based on real life events?

>>158230199
Mahou Shoujo of the End

>>158221078

I only get "scared" by specific things. I've never read a horror Manga but normal things can't scare me. I get really jumpy only when i watch real creepy stories videos on youtube. Nothing creeps me out more than "true" stories about the deep web or people selling things online or when people find out there was some creepy guy standing at the foot of their bed every night watching them sleep. Some youtubers have extremely good reading voices and they make things scarier.

Fiction written in a way that makes it sound believable and told as if it were real events is what gets me and i love it. It's not easy to get scared reading fiction. There was that one creepy webcomic with that crawling girl that had the cool scrolling thing that got me with the surprise jumpscares but i can't say that was Manga.

>>158220597
>yooo freaky faces!
>guro! yeah, gore porn yo!!!
>woahhh look at all this bad writing and creepypasta plagiarism!

Horror is basically just a low-brow meme. For a more serious response, it's not a smart business choice when different genres are far more popular and will net you more consumers and cash for the work put in. Unless you hire the best thriller writers and have god tier sound design (eg; manga simply isn't a good medium for this), horror as the primary element won't work and at best will come off as a silly feverdream for fuckwits on the web like me to make fun of.

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>>158225828
This anon gets it

>>158230346
But thats modern horror, not horror as a whole.

>>158220597
Because I hate being scared.

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>>158223288


mine does she's paraplegic and i have to assist her every day

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>>158227580
This. I love Higurashi but I always felt like it was good for the world building, the characters and the mystery, the horror was there but it was used less and less as the true plot unraveled.

>>158221078
The only time I have ever got scared from horror manga was with Junji Itou "Long Dream", and that was mainly because I suffer from something similar, sometimes I can dream for weeks in just 1 night is very creepy, and something even creepier is that dying doesn't always wake me up of the dream.
I think that if you can't relate to the story it won't affect you at all.

>>158227488
That was great, thanks anon.

Because horror anime relies too much on physical appearance being odd than actual themes.

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HORROR

>>158223024
>>158222693
Yeah, waiting for an update, though

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>>158232169
DONE

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>>158232250
RIGHT
Open it if you're not a total fucking pussy. It's drawn. Don't worry. it's only so scary.

>>158232286

I like it, I might start reading horror manga. I'm not a huge fan of Japanese Horror but i did really like The Nameless Game on the DS.

>>158232169
>>158232250
>>158232286
I Am A Hero shit itself inside out and the concept was never that well executed in the first place. It seemed the author was going to do something with the whole "Schitzophrenic man dealing with the apocalypse" but then it just got stupid.

>>158223416
Gyo

What is some good HORROR hentai on sadpanda

Oh yeah, this reminds me that someone recommended Kakurenbo in another thread like this some time ago and I forgot to actually watch it. Maybe I should soon.

>>158232770
Another is laughably bad and you should be legitimately ashamed of yourself enjoying it on an unironic level.

>>158232781
Guro + futanari + netorare tags and let your brain melt.

>>158232936
I'm not the anon you're replying to but the first half of Another had a really good creepy atmospheric vibe and I would fite whoever told me otherwise.

>>158221405
/a/ never liked horror

>>158221078
Some of Junji's stories creep me out a bit. Hellstar Remina was especially unsettling to me, although I generally get creeped out by deep-space horror.

>>158223156
>>158223123
>S-same fag
God people like you are pathetic

Horror is an awkward genre because its predictable in every way.
Unless the series doesn't outright claim to be horror, you sorta know what to expect.

>>158232936
I love how nobody can mention another without some anon always tipping his fedora about how bad it is.
You should be ashamed of yourself for shitposting on an unironic level

>>158232286
That scene is immediately hilarious like 2 pages later, I Am A Hero is not horror done right, it's not scary at all.

Animated horror is impossible.

>>158233645
>making fun of a bad show is now fedora tier

You have to go back.

>>158233645
>laughing at Another is shitposting!

Are you 12 or something?

>>158234153
>You have to go back.
how about you go back instead with your reddit spacing

>>158234464

There has to be a space after the post number for it to be reddit spacing, like this.

>>158232536
>>158232581
>>158233769
To be fair that's probably the scariest horror i've seen in a manga.

If Miura wanted to do horror he could with that art skill.

>>158220597
because rice monkeys can't into spook

>>158221078
Hideout had me a little creeped out, especially because of the drawings, sure it was just some old dude living in a bunker but I was pretty spooped

>>158231678
Does that shit actually exist? Seems fun, I would love to sleep forever.

And I also agree with you, there are two Ito stories that really creep me out. One is the trypophobia one (I've always suffered from It) and the other one it's Drifting ashore (because I'm scared of deep sea creatures, Who the fuck knows what's down there)

>>158221078
I get upset sometimes because I start to like the protagonists a lot so I'm sad when they die.

But scared? Not at all. Am I the only one here that reads Junji Ito and laughs his ass off because it gets really silly? Black Paradox is so fucking goofy.

>>158232230
Two chapters per month anon, they should be up next week.

>>158235418
I love that funny tone that his stories sometimes have, It's hilarious how messed up the protagonists end up

First season of Kagewani was really fucking good IMO. It was like a more storydriven Yamishibai, though with more focus on monsters than ghosts and urban legends.

episode 6 was especially great
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3cqdl0_kagewani-episode-6_tv

A shame season 2 wasn't as good. The whole fun of the show was seeing a different monster each episode, but with season 2 it was all completely just storydriven and action shit instead of suspenseful horror

anybody has actually survive trough Shoujo Tsubaki?

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Read Uzumaki. I loved Junji Ito.

>>158221078
I read on a big-ass screen, so if they do that thing where they draw a close-up picture of a scary face that takes up the whole page you can bet your ass that it would make me jump.

>>158221078

Higanjima was scary at the beginning.

>>158233379
>deep-space horror.
This is genuinely the best genre of horror

Almost every single horror sci-fi movie is at the very least decent. It's something magical about space that just merges very well with fear

>>158232936
Liking Another is perfectly fine as a guilty pleasure though. Just like the Final Destination series.

You don't watch it because it has good writing, you watch it because it has entertaining deaths

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Speaking of Junji Ito, someone picked up Rasputin recently.
Anyone knows if its it horror or just some kind of manga biography similar to Cat/Dog Diary?

>>158221078
Reading Fuan no Tane was the only thing from both anime and manga to legitimately creep me out

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>>158226577
The Witch's House is actually getting it's own manga adaption based on the novel and is premiering in just two days.

Very hyped for this!

>any horror series that features a spooky female just makes me completely horny rather than scared

Having a horrorgirl fetish sucks

It only works in manga.

1) I've watched Higurashi, the Ghost Stories one, Another, and I'm watching Shiki. Outside of these are there any more notable works? There's basically nothing on the /a/ wiki about horror and other sites recommend stuff like Tokyo Ghoul and Monster
2) Any notable upcoming horror anime? I want to funpost a horror mystery with /a/

>>158238754
Ghost Hound

>>158225828
only one that ever spooked me and I don't even know why
side stories were a pretty fun read as well

>>158236717
his works don't unnerve me but I love them for surreal they are
like if Salvador Dali was a horror writer

>>158238116
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-SSm9cdkf0
did they get permission from the maker?

>ywn have people come to you looking to adapt your work

>>158239280
I'll check it out next, thanks anon

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>>158233379
How does pic related make you feel?
A lot of people say its unsettling but I couldn't stop laughing

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>>158240010
Hellplanet Remina is an underrated masterpiece

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>>158221078
I remember the end of Perfect Blue and some bits of Paranoia Agent getting to me when I was younger.

But I can barely name any other horror anime I enjoyed.

>>158240060
Same, it got to me too

now I have a fetish

>>158221078
>Does anyone get scared when they read horror manga?

not really. Sometimes I get unnerved if I'm reading at night

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>>158221078
Just that jumpscare Korean horror comic that knocked a few years off my life back in the day.

>>158240458
Fucking hell, that one.

>>158220692

This so much.

>>158221187
Any good psychological horror VNs you recommend?

Kept trying and failing to get into Higurashi.

>>158221684

OH fuck off, /a/ has always had terrible taste.

>>158239859
Yup, I learned about it directly from Fummy's site.
The novel itself was originally made by the creator of the game and I thought it was fantastic.
It really helped explain things leading up to the game itself.

I really hope it eventually gets turned into an anime but it is doubtful considering some of the graphic and disturbing content.

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>>158240726
i know what you mean by that my friend

for example, i remember that someone around here call me a underage newfag because i was going to talk about my favorite slashing horror action manga,then he left me this capture of a stupid shitty moe vampire (pic related), i was going to say someting to that little piece of shit fucker but unfortunately the thread was closed

>>158221405
There's probably like 1 good horror anime. That being said, it's already above the 0 that moeblobs are sitting at.

>>158240458
The train in the tunnel one is way scarier.

>>158242085
You talking shit about Demis? I'll curse you.

Junji Ito´s Hanging Ballons is really scary. I think it is his best work.

>>158240674
Seconding

>>158222461
Was it a spiral staircase?

>>158244697
Don't start it.

>>158240010
Ok that part of the story was so ridiculous that I actually forgot about it. The part that creeped me out was obviously the planet eater and the idea of totally random and uncontrollable human annihilation. I thought them jumping around the planet was pretty damn silly, but it was kind of amusing.

>>158244742
Afraid it would spiral out of control?