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Why is Griffith so hated when literally anyone would have done

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Why is Griffith so hated when literally anyone would have done the same thing in his situation?
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>>158148342
Because /a/ fools themselves to think they're above anyone so they try to claim the moral high ground.
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>>158148342
The problem isn't his decision during the Eclipse, the problem is his decisions up until that point starting with when Guts wanted to leave were all fucking moronic.
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>>158149648
This
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>>158149648
Yup
he brought everything upon himself. If he wasn't prophesied to be a member of the God Hand he would have died as some loser in a dungeon
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>>158149648
the only choice he made after guts left was fucking charlotte which is understandable since his husbando dumped him
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well i may sacrifice people if my life is in danger but thats it.
i wouldn't rape my friend's live interest in front him while he is being mutilated just for the lolz and i would certainly apologies if i resurrect in mortal world and try to ressurect my friends back
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>>158148342
>Make a contract with some demon necklace to revive yourself after getting fucked up
Yep probably most people would
>But you have to kill almost everyone you knew and loved just to accomplish this, thus destroying their dreams and goals in life to selfishly save yourself
Yeah no.
>And as an extra fuck you, rape your best friend's girlfriend for no real given reason as to why and then leave them both to die when the world has gone to shit around them
Why would anyone who isn't a sociopath do this? Griffith did everything wrong. Granted, he did get burned, castrated, and several muscles severed, but even if I was him, I don't think the price to pay would be worth the reward.
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>>158149672
>>158149714
He was in the best possible position but then decided to go "waaaah my boyfriend left me so I'm gonna force myself on the princess and lose fucking everything."

>>158149741
Or he could not have been a bitch about it and accepted that Guts wanted to find his own path in life.
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>>158149746
>Yeah no.
Thanks for proving me right. <3
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>>158148342
He is fucked up, and messed with the wrong king heh. Should ask his permission first.
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Griffith did nothing wrong
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>>158149743
femto doesn't have feelings so yes you probably would

>>158149746
after a year of torture and being shown illusions by flying octopus dwarf anyone would do what he did
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>>158149799
In what way exactly? Are you telling me you would crush all the people you loved and lived around's dreams and goals to fulfill your own?
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>>158149901
>In what way exactly?
>>158149537
Are you telling me you would crush all the people you loved and lived around's dreams and goals to fulfill your own?
If all the people I loved equal 1 then yes, even more when they were troops that were there for MY dream and most of them had no dreams aside from serving me. Go on.
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>>158150017
>>In what way exactly?
Yeah in what way exactly did I prove you right? Can you read?
Well if they exist for your dream, what's the point in killing them? They'll still be loyal to you or your mentality/ideology, even after you deceased and could carry it on as well. Seem likes a losing game to just go "lol fuck it I'll become a demon".
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>>158149888
Griffith has no honor, just a selfish fuck who got tricked. Played like a fiddle. The Band of the Hawk was his family, they worshiped the ground he walked on. He was their starring leader.

And he betrayed them. He betrayed the people who risked their lives to rescue him in the first place. He's a back stabbing failure, who should have died in that room. A coward, nothing more.

And after he got what he wanted, it still wasn't ebough. He raped the women his only friend loved. Why? What type of person would do that? Surely no one good with any sense of justice. That illusion about him having his own castle and all the corpses he had to step over to achieve it, it just showed how truly selfish Griffith is.

I would have rather died than out the people who loved me through that. I think most real people with a conscience would.
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>>158148342
Casca, Guts and Griffith all got sexually abused when they were children but Griffith is the only one who went and raped someone. Think about that for a second.
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>>158150017
1. be a mute cripple until death, knowing you killed thousands for nothing
2. become demigod for sacrificing a few more

after being tortured to the point where you're barely sane I find it hard to believe you wouldn't pick 2
it probably isn't a morally good choice but it's perfectly understandable thing to do under the circumstances
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>>158150185
>Yeah in what way exactly did I prove you right? Can you read?
Apparently you can't.
>Well if they exist for your dream, what's the point in killing them?
Because their deaths will get me there, the same way he sold his ass just so that they'll didn't die early.
>"lol fuck it I'll become a demon"
I already knew you were retarded just from the fact that you didn't agree with me so no worries.
He became a "demon" because he was literally fucked, there was no way he would be able to achieve his dreams without his body, hell, the Hawks would had fallen apart faster that they did without him, and if he didn't then all his hardships and the Hawks would had been for nothing.
>>158150282
Why reply to me?
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>>158150386
cause you didn't use meme arrow and I didn't read properly
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>>158148342
>Why is Griffith so hated when literally anyone would have done the same thing in his situation?

Not everyone that lurks /a/ is a psychopath so jot that down.
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>>158150561
If Griffith is a psychopath then how did the sacrifice work? It only works when you sacrifice people you care about. Checkmate atheists
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>>158150561
>Not everyone that lurks /a/ is a psychopath
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>>158149648
Beyond that raping Casca and forcing Guts to watch wasn't pragmatic. It was just cruel.
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>>158150215
This. Sure what Griffith did accomplished his "dream" but anyone rational would throw that dream away if it meant killing those you found as your people and your family.
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>>158149648
FUCKING THIS.
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>>158149648
I came here to post this. Everything would've worked out just fine if he didn't go MUH GUTS while throwing his plans out the window.
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>>158148342
Same reason everyone hates the likes of Ohgi and Seishin Muroi. They're fucking pricks but we wish we were them. Still, fuck 'em.
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>>158148342
Griffith didn't attain godhood so he could help the world. He did it so he could screw it over more and crown himself at the top of the rubble.
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>>158148342
I am a fucking terrible person, but I feel completely justified in saying I am a better and more ethical decision maker than Griffith
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Griffith was essentially engineered to make his choices so I don't blame him at all.
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>>158150780
>meant killing those you found as your people and your family.
He has already sacrificed a ton of his people on the way to the castle.
Just going "nah I'll pass" would be just as criminal
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>>158152916
I don't trust your spiel on fate Void.

Immortality and omnipresence don't equate to omniscience.
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>>158152962
>thousands already being dead due to the decisions you've made justifies killing infinitely more people in the future
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>>158148342
>literally anyone
stop posting, griffith. you're a cunt, end of discussion.
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>anyone would have done the same thing in his situation
No.
I'd sacrifice my companions to save myself and heal my fucked up, tortured, mutilated body, sure. But I wouldn't fuck the princess on a whim which would put me in the situation of needing to be saved in the first place
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I know a person like Griffith that have alot of his traits of personality,He does what is logical when the time comes making the best out of situations BUT ignoring his own heart which bites him in the ass later when it comes time to hit the "fuck it up" button.
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When you really get down to it, isn't Griffith's sacrifice really for the greater good? Sure, he wiped out the Band of the Hawk, (which, mind you, was a mercenary band that killed and raided), sure he betrayed them, but to what results? Currently, he IS saving hundreds of thousands of civilians as well as protecting them from countless horrors. He has made all of humanity unify together underneath one banner, and ended these petty wars (of which he used to participate in) that dictated human history. With a common goal of safety for all inhabitants, Falconia truly is a shining jewel.
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>>158153097
Masturbating is literally killing your lost offspring and all the descendants they could have had.
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>>158148342
He doomed the entire world

Whether or not you'd have done the same thing is irrelevant
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>>158153515
also since he doesn't understand his own heart,he cant understand others.
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>>158153793
Just a bunch of cells :^)
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>>158149648
I don't have to type it now
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people don't honestly give much consideration to the idea of being torture for a year straight. they just think "yeah, that would suck, but..."
they don't honestly put much thought into beyond that though. ANYONE would do the same in his position, and you're deluded if you think you wouldn't.
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>>158154741
Retard brought it on himself. He deserved what he got
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>>158153522

i assume grifis is just the puppet of some dark god and the end game is some massive eclipse on all the midlands
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>>158153522
The horrors are there just because griffith is in his humane form. Because one of the god hand is living as corporeal form, everything is changing.
This faggot is not saving the world, he is just killing every lifeform outside his kingdom. People just have no other choice. Trolls and ogres was just legends until griffith come to earth, now there are everywhere raping and gangbang´n everyone who has a health pussy.
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>>158154741
>1.kys and die
>2. Heal and be a shadow of your formerself along with your friends to support you
>3. sacrifice your friends and get a new body
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>>158154741
You know what else sucks? The entirety of Guts and Casca's lives after they risked everything to save Griffith from his own mistakes.
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>>158155219
sacrifice your friends and become a god*
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>>158149746
but if you were just granted a demonic bird penis, wouldn't you want to try it out on the first person you saw?
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>>158154741
So was his friends, living an year of hiding and running.

The only one who take a vacation year is Gutts, everyone else is hiding for theirs lifes. In the end, only 10% of the band is alive and trying to save grifis.

>friends are dying to save you
>they finally found you and save you
>your retribution is killing all of them to buy a new dick
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>>158155265
Nah, Guts was retarded for leaving the band in the 1st place. It's all his fault to begin with, and Casca agrees with me.
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>>158155265
If only Griffith wasn't a autistic shit maybe he would have relieved how much his friends loved/risked to save him.
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>>158154741
Griffith raped the Princes and is the reason he was tortured
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>>158155596
Its was 100% consensual sex.
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>>158155596
His real sin was spilling his stuff all over the floor "6: i just dont give a fuck motherfucker let the bodies hit the floor" style and not cleaning it up before leaving, which caused the king to notice.
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>>158155474
Maybe you need to read the manga again to know the reason why he was leaving.
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>>158155474
>not wanting to live in a shadow anymore
>going off to do your own thing like you've always have
>retarded
Gut decision was clear, Griffith reaction to guts decision was not and because of Griffith reaction they are paying for it now.
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GANISHKA WOULD HAVE CONQUERED THE WHOLE WORLD

>it all lies within casualty
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>>158150017
>If all the people I loved equal 1 then yes, even more when they were troops that were there for MY dream and most of them had no dreams aside from serving me. Go on.
yeah, good for you pal, but we aren't all the same
I don't really get what's the thing here with people thinking everyone would think the same way on a certain situation.
i guess i understand how saying this could make me look like i'm thinking too much of myself, or whatever shit like that. but i wouldnt.
I mean, i don't know how my brain would work after being tortured for as long as he was, all i can say is that if i had that choice right here and now, to kill every single person i've met and become a demigod, i wouldn't take it
Don't want to believe it? well alright, it's not like this argument is a big deal
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As much as I love this guy, I can't help but feel like killing the Godhand will have some consequences on the world that only he knows about.

Ah well, fuck it.
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> It all lies within causality
What are the odds Farnesse finds a way to screw it all up?
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>>158155914
100% everytime guts makes a new ally or even takes a shit he disrupts fate. Farnese is outside the current as long as she continues to follow guts
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>>158156015
Uh. Let me clarify.

What are the odds Farnesse finds a way to fuck up causality? She's got a pretty good track record of cocking things up.
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>>158155908
What dos the Godhand do that's so important (they look like committee)? Keeping the astral plane in balance? Does skulbro want to destroy the plane or the balance and fuck everything up?Maybe be the only godhand left since the others are cunts.
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>>158155726
I think I know the manga fairly well, probably better than yourself. Like this scene here, for example, where Guts admits he made a mistake that took him a year to realize.
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>>158156099
She already found a way. That way is guts
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so the only plot points left are:
-What will healed Casca do
-Island slowing time
-Charlotte's marriage and Griffith's coronation
-Griffith sacrificing the human population of Falconia
-Zodd, Slan, SK, Void backstories
-Guts and Zodd's final duel
-Killing the rest of the apostle generals, Serpico will take Irvine
-Slan will certainly try something again with Guts before being killed in the final battle
-SK killing Void
-Killing the other God Hand
-Magical upgrades
-Joining with Rickter/Silat
-Vitrannis Alliance against Griffith
-Guts VS Femto
-Idea of Evil
-Bad ending
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Okay so know it's starting to get a bit convoluted here. Is guts outside the casualty because he survived the eclipse? Then what about casca?
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>>158155461
Even fricking Corkus, the guy who doesn't believe in dreams or higher ambitions worth a damn, stuck it out running for his life as an outlaw just for the slight hope of maybe having Griffith back.
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>>158148342
Lack of perspective.

Here was a guy who shouldered the burden of the entire group. He sacrificed his own wellbeing and his own body to feed/arm his soldiers. Yet they keep him at arms length because his nature is that of a charismatic leader. Hence comes Gutts who treats him as equal, a friend, etc. Griffith's heart changes as a result of this friendship. When Gutts decides to leave, he couldn't figure out why Gutts would leave, after all, what more could Gutts want that Griffith couldn't provide. So Griffith falls into depression and loses his composure.

Finally after the torture, after realizing he's lost all he can offer to the world, his primal desire to simply regain that glory took root.

People who cannot realize this feeling do not understand the weight Griffith has to carry and had carried.
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>>158156190
>-Bad ending
Miura already stated he wanted to do a happy ending.
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>>158156190
>No guts slaying a dragon
>No guts going to kushan land
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>>158156244
go away griffith
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>>158156287
Dumb frogposter
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>>158156150
He changed his mind. If I wake one morning feeling that my life have no sense, it's only logical that I want to change thing and sort myself out. It will still be logical if I feel that there was no need to do nothing at all.
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>>158156287
At this point, anymore diversions would make the manga take even longer than it already is.

I'm actually hoping it's just a straight path from here. I need muh conclusion.
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>>158156100
Conrad's the only one I remember having a day job, and that was just spreading the plague around.
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>>158148342
Because a majority of the people who post here would be naive enough to follow a man of his calibur.
And their fate would be the same as his pawns
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The way Berserk works, if you ever got into that situation you would have to be Griffith to your very core anyways.

The simple point of a person willing to sacrifice those around them to not only restore their ravaged body but to accomplish their primary desire still holds weight though. Most people cant even imagine the kind of suffering he went through, or having such burning ambition.
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>>158155908
I bet killing the GodHand will result in a total cutoff of anything non-physical from the physical world. No more magic, no elves, no afterlife, nothing
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Rest well sweet prince.
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>>158156358
Its only in the 300s lmao. Berserk has the potential to reach 500 or even 1000 if miura wanted an arc for each godhand and some fantasy monsters slayed(dragon, headless horseman, giant, minitaur etc) just have hope lol. He's gonna come back with a monthly or a weekly contract soon
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>>158156486
Miura lost the passion for Berserk, he only continues because he needs the money
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>>158156190
>tfw Irvine will eventually die
he is best apostle
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Casca will be the one to give Griffith the finishing blow during his final moments. Screencap this.
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>>158156100
>>158156363
The way I see it, the Godhand is more or less the reason why humans are such pieces of shit, acting as agents(very loose use of the word) of the Idea of Evil.
>>158156486
Dude, Miura is not going to keep it going for that long. It's just not in him anymore. He's lost the passion for it.
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>>158156541
It'll be finished dude even if something happens to him he has the ending written sown has also asked Kubo to finisg it
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>>158156379
>Following a strong, charismatic and resourceful leader is naive
I rest my case.
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I just want to see Zodd, Slan and SK&Void backstories

I don't even care if the manga never finishes
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>>158156710
Fucking this.
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what's the consensus on Gigantomakia?
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>>158156743
It's pretty good. The art is great because it's Miura. It isn't getting the attention it deserves though because all anyone wants is Berserk.
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>>158156363
>Conrad spreads disease and vermin
>Ubik whispers "do it faggot" to random people all day
>Void stands around all day like a giant awkward lanklet and talks philosophy to himself because tfw too intelligent to actually do anything
>Slan cameos in cultist meetings and thinks of how badly she wants to have a session of rape and murder with Guts with no preference of who's on the recieving end
>Femto plans how he's going to fuck up everything and teamkill everyone again
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>>158156695
>the Godhand is more or less the reason why humans are such pieces of shit
I think humanity does a pretty solid job of that on their own, but spreading Behelits and disease certainly isn't helping anyone.
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>>158156979
That's what I meant. You worded it better.
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>>158156743
>Gigantomakia
Didn't read it after I saw the image of the little girl straight-up getting ready to piss on the guy.

Not what I'm looking for Miura.
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>>158156743
the protagonist is a pacifist so unless he got development to start killing evil people it would be garbage

not to mention the overtly pedoshit...
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>Never read Berserk
>Enjoy the Griffith did nothing wrong meme because of all the asshurt it generates
>Randomly watch an analysis of the dynamic between Guts and Griffith
>mfw Berserk turned out to be the most Metal manga in existence
If only I wasn't a lazy piece of shit so I could read it.
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>>158157159
back2facebook
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>>158156695
What's the opinion of kubo finishing berserk? I think it would be fun
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>>158157208
you can read it in a weekend at most...
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>>158157287
Could you really or are you just fucking with me? I actually did read a little bit after watching that video. I made it up to when Guts and Puck find the guy and he shows them the thing, then I got tired and stopped.
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>>158157287
>weekend
nah he'll need a week if they has nothing to do or a 3-4weeks if he took afew hours of reading a day.
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>>158157208
Just skim it and use the wiki to answer questions you may have
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>>158157405
nice downs syndrome you got there
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>>158157456
>>158157287
>>158157377
>>158157208
kill yourself.
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>>158148342
Ikr op his life was basically over after they saved him he was just a patato like casca is now hue
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>>158157548
no u
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>>158153012
>Void
He has 6 fingers and his hand looks different, but even I liked to imagine that was Void's hand.
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>>158157405
Yeah it's about this

t. finished reading friday
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>>158149746
Wait he got his balls cut off no way family don't remember that
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>>158157537
>not having other prioritizes
ADHD thank you
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>>158157159
>PACIFIST GAY SHIT
>WHERE'S MUH EDGE
Kill yourself emo faggot.
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>>158157456
My fucking god, please neuter yourself.
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>>158157710
SJW detected
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>>158157794
Hate them. Hate just as much mindless faggots who only like shit because MUH EDGE, MUH KILL KILL KILL.
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>>158157853
are you OK?
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if berserk ended right when guts left it would be better like its been like 20 years and i just want to watch grifffith die
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griffith raped casca if front of guts fuck him
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Griffith
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>>158152727
So the God Hand each seems to represent a aspect of life/evil. What aspect does Griffith/Femto represent?
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>>158148342
Because most of the readers have the level of self-insight of a potato and are completely incapable of puting themselve into Griffith's place.
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>>158148342
Fuck off only fags level dex
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>>158157896
I'll be once you do humanity a favor and out yourself from the human gene pool.
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>>158158372
Ambition, dream, control, kingdom.
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>>158158372
ambition ?
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>>158153012
Maybe it was Void's hand before he became a demon. The story of the sage and Gaiseric seems to imply it was Void and Skull Knight.
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>>158157287
Eh, I started this weekend and I'm just at the chapter where the Holy Chain Knights get their hands on Casca and Nina.

I even overslept for today's class because I kept reading all night.
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>>158157628
It helps that the narration during that intro was done by Void's actor.
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>>158150691
he never cared for them, he only cared about his dream
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>>158157628
Ubik is the one that convinces and gives beherits thought.
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>>158158372
What's that poor schmuck Conrad represent?
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>>158158645
disease
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>>158158597
If that was true, the sacrifice wouldn't work
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>>158158645
Pest and disease.
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>>158148342
I don't remember a griffith child part
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I'm retarded.

Why did Griffith keep giving Guts and Casca the death glare everytime they were together after he was rescued?
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>>158158730
The jelly
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>>158158698
It's Ubik's representation of Griffith's conciousness or something.

Griffith must've seen himself still as a kid.
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>>158158730
Grffith wanted Gattsu all for himself, that's why he raped Casca, to make Gattsu know what it feels to be NTR'D.
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>>158158597
I think he cared at some point in his life. He just cared about his dream more.

Dream >>>> Guts >>>>> Casca > Princess Meal Ticket > The Hawks > Everyone else in the world.
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>>158148342

Honestly he was in a pretty bad place to say the absolute least.

I may have sacrificed the band to become a god.

But I would've tried to at least resurrect them in some way and would've fucked over those demons who killed them.

I would've even gone to lengths where their memories of the eclipse were suppressed.

Griffith went the extra-mile to rape Casca just to fuck with Guts some more.
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>>158158372
Good question. Do they really represent actual evil, or just morally ambiguous aspects of life like you said?
Ambition certainly isn't evil, it's pretty neutral from a moral stance.
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Wait a second
The band was ready and willing to die for Griffith's dream right? Hundred already died.
He just gave them what they asked.
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>>158158645
Disease, pest, calamity, poverty, death.
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>>158158618
>gives beherits thought
How so?
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>>158158981
They were ready to die until they realized he was a cripple. Fair-weather friends.
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>>158148342
>when literally anyone would have done the same thing in his situation?
I wouldn't.
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>>158153855
desu the Kushans would have done the same anyways
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>>158158981
That was certainly not what they signed for. I'm sure most would be okay dying in the battlefield as normal mercenaries. Not being branded, sacrificed, dying horribly by hundreds of gruesome demons and having their souls be absorbed in the vortex.
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>>158148342
>anyone would have done the same thing in his situation?
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>>158148342
>literally
Go to Hell.
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>>158155679
No sure if I'm remembering this right I'm pretty sure that the princess's maid snitched on him. Or maybe someone saw him go into her room.
>>158158645
Diabetes
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>>158158730
Jealousy
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>>158159428
Maid snitched, King went to her room and went apeshit because he saw Griffith stuff on the floor plus the Princess' bloodstained blankets.
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>>158157268
Don't even joke with that
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>>158149648
You fuckin moron that was all a part of his destiny as a result of the Crimson behelt. It was his and everyone's destiny to reach the top and close to his dream and have it plummet out of site so he would become a part of the god hand. How can you fuckin hate someone's actions when it was all pre-ordained?
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>>158158669
I care about you, Anon.
will it work now?
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>>158158574
I actually thought godhand represents the fingers differently
Void being the longest and(seemingly) the centre of it all being the middle
Conrad being the big finger cos he is shorty but bulky
Nameless finger being slan coz its second biggest and is a wedding ring finger
And ubik being smallest is the little finger
It seems i was wrong
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>>158159684
>big finger
Bruh that's called a fuckin thumb
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>>158148342
Because Griffith accepted fate instead of fighting against it like he claimed and was trying to do his entire life
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>>158159603
Because "destiny says so" is the stupidest fucking excuse to justify anything.
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>>158158823
I think Dream and Guts were pretty close since he risked getting himself killed a couple times and everything
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>>158159603
>It was his destiny
>t. the man who wanted to fight against the norms of society and even fate to get his dream
>submits to fate
lmao griffith is the biggest ideological cuck
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>>158148342
It's a Shinji Ikari situation. Everyone hates him because deep down they know that they are just like him.
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>>158159865
>>158159603
Didn't the Count deny destiny?
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>>158159865
Well fucker, then hate the premise of what happened, because that's the fucking way it is. Why do you think Zodd said what he did, the God Hand let things go as they did, and how it all wrapped up so neatly? Because that was the fate of the Crimson Behelt holder.

>>158159943
P Much, but it's still a means to his end goal.
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>>158159910
Yeah, Guts was the only one who surpassed Griffith's ambitions at all in his mind. Or at least made the line blurry.
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>>158160193
Still doesn't make it a good excuse when Guts and Casca were "destined" to be sacrificed for Griffith's ascension if I'm not completely fucking wrong here.

Unless there was yet another bullshit destiny I completely glossed over because the words "destiny" or "fate" or "prophecy" just make me completely blank out.
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>>158158645
fucking filename kek
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>>158155850
>yeah, good for you pal, but we aren't all the same
But for Griffith it was, what now? End yourself.
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>>158160354
That's the whole thing man, Guts is so fucking intense that he is defying fate daily. That and Skull Knight got him and Casca and Rickertt out of the hell hole. They're all branded to die but they're actively defying their fate unlike Griffith. It's the juxtaposition against them, and proving further how Guts surpasses Griffith.
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>>158159590
But miura said he would be great choice. We may not like kubo but those two get along like anno and miyazaki
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>>158160693
Well my point here is that if preordained destinies can be avoided then there's once again no excuse. Griffith COULD have averted the whole thing but he didn't.

That said I also partly blame Guts for leaving even though he SHOULD have known how much Griffith cares.
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>>158160751
you're comparing fates as if they're equal my dude. The Crimson Behelt is for the king, that is no easily defied fate. They are not equal.
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I honestly feel so sorry for Griffith, his insecurity, fear and ego drove him to hell
I think he hates himself and hates being femto
Daily reminder that you need to sacrifice the ones you love to become god hand, Griffith killed his entire army
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>>158160852
Gattsu defied all that fate shit, Grffith is just a faggot that literaly whore himself. I'm going to get the biggest orgasm when Guts finally stab Griffith with the DS.
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What are the GodHand like during their off time?
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>>158161161
Slan is an accountant, Void was wrestler in college, and the other two fucks like to play D&D.
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>>158148342
>Guy kills a band of people who trusted him with their lives, a few of them being interesting and fun characters for his own personal gain to fix a situation that he wouldn't be in if he didn't act like a retard and thought things out like the tactician everyone revered him as

I wonder why people don't like him. This meme has gone to far, now people are starting to believe it.
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>>158148342
I believe the only thing Griffith can be blamed for are his deeds after becoming Femto, starting with the eclipse.

The old, human Griffith, even after a year long torture, still wanted to tell Guts and the others to stay away and kill himself right before the eclipse took place, but he wasn't able due to his critical condition.

He was nothing but a shadow of his former self at that point, but there was still some good will inside him until the sacrifice was made.
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>>158161161
The kid brain I do not know, but the two balls, one likes to spread plague and the other of insanity, the girl has a cult with sex, drugs and human sacrifice
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>>158160703
>>158159590
As long as he doesn't change any plot points or writing I'd be fine with it. Say what you want about Bleach and it being a total piece of shit the art is pretty fantastic.
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>>158161488
There's a lot you can read into things, but it's pretty telling that the final straw that would drive him to suicide is the premonition of his future being taken care of by Casca.

In a way it wasn't the torture or having his army decimated that broke him in the end. It was the idea of being forced to live a normal and peaceful life.
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>>158160963
Guts defied being sacrificed with the help of the Skull Knight. After that it's been his own sheer willpower and skills which were already proven to be superior to Griffiths. The whole premise is to show that the fucking grit and burning hatred in Guts can overcome any bullshit about fate.
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>>158161900
>The whole premise is to show that the fucking grit and burning hatred in Guts can overcome any bullshit about fate.
With the help of a few misfit friends along the way.
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>>158162145
Yee. That too. Idk, I just don't think the premise of the series is hard to understand. People are comparing apples to oranges.
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>>158148342
Let's say that Griffith hypothetically wanted to redeem itself. What actions would take him the closest to being redeemed in your eyes?
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>>158162981
he should kill himself, and admit he did wrong.
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>>158148342
>Why is Griffith so hated when literally anyone would have done the same thing in his situation?

No, you're just projecting. Not everyone is a selfish psycho. Losers use Griffith character as justification for their own psychopathy.
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>>158148342
>Why is Griffith so hated

the rape, if he didn't rape Casca in front of Guts then he would be liked more
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>>158163116
Simply killing himself doesn't clean up the mess he made though. He doesn't have the right to kill himself yet.
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>>158162981
Undo the damage he did to the world, destroy all members of the Godhand, and fight against evil until he dies.
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>>158159497
I always thought that was rain, showing the king that someone entered through the window that night
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>>158163661
virgin?
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>>158164015
I swear it was near the window, around the curtains. I'll go back and re-read it
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>>158149648
spbp
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Next episode looks good.
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>>158160703
Since when did Miura said Kubo was good?
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>>158156743
The art is great because Miura loves martial arts and he had wanted to do a new series for years before actually taking a 2 year hiatus to do it.

But it sold poorly and nobody liked his loli fetish, which was unexpected. His native fanbase aren't lolicons and no-one new jumped onto Gigantomakhia.
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So here's a question for you: did Skull Knight just ruin literally everything?
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>>158166438
No. It was a process already well underway, the moment Griffith reincarnated the worlds already started merging, and the spirit trees have been progressively burned or destroyed for some time (some even by Guts, like the one where Rosine lived).

Skull seemingly helped speed up the process, but it wasn't such a fuck-up like some people might have thought about.
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Is Guts hispanic?
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Looks like we've answered the question as to whether Casca was black or not.
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>>158148342
I wouldn't rape Casca, Op.
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>>158168993
Why not? You wouldn't have any human feelings after becoming godhand and there's this hot bitch feeling horny after demon rape right there
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>>158169244
nah, i don't think i would.
And I Wouldn't want all my friends seeing my tiny penis.
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>>158150219
Yeah he did, he literally went and killed the dude that abused him with the band of hawk.
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