Why do you pirate? Don't you wanna support your waifu and

Yes, that's why I'm pirating anime and buying figs, unlike you retards giving money to crunchy or funi that doesn't do shit to the industry.

Because I would need to be a millionaire to pay properly for all the media I consume, doesn't mean I don't buy at all though, far from it.

Pirating doesn't do anything

>>158127079
Let them give money to CR and Funi. At least we will have something to pirate. I don't want to go back to fansubbing days. They at least have no more drama now that they are all on CR's payroll.

I buy all the loli porn comics I can.

>>158127079
>I like your book, it touched me, I bought it and loved it
>Hey man i liked your movie i watched it in the cinema and on Netflix now and again
>I love you, you're my favourite seiyuu and I love all the characters you voice i don't buy your stuff though instead i torrent it. I-I buy figures though.. Even though you don't voice them but imagine you do.

>>158127047
Online shopping is shit on a 3rdworld shit hole. Famous online shops aren't shipping on my shithole.

>>158127251
If you don't know shit about the industry, you better not talk.

>>158127251
>implying the money you give to crunchy goes to creator or seiyuu
Must be nice being so naive.

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>>158127047
>paying
>to watch anime

>>158127315
>>158127346
>I do x legally therefore i am entitled to do x illegally.
No
Also, I never said anything about crunchyroll

>>158127047
I'm poor, you fucking asshole,

>>158127047
I used to pirate, but then nyaa died so now I buy all my anime.

Buy whatever you want, spend your money on however you want.
The ones who ultimately get all the money are the big megacorps in Japan, not the small slaves working for them.
Doesn't fucking matter if you import figurines from Japan directly or pay your local streaming service or fly to Japan and attend one of those live events.
You support the MAN at the top.
The MAN is the winner.

>>158127423
>he doesn't know how to get anime outside of nyaa

>>158127423
Woah, it's the fabled target all anti-piracy laws are based around.

>>158127047
The only money I spend is from all the HDDs I buy to store all my downloaded anime.

>>158127047
>why do you pirate
Because i can? Anime isnt only thing i pirate

>>158127047
not being sarcastic here, but can anybody help explaining how not pirating is a support for our waifu and fav anime/manga?

video related(?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH38DM03KK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBQqjNf3LwA

>>158127047
Because I like to rewind and screenshot a lot and it's easier to do on my video player than any streaming site. Also I'm fucking poor.

>>158127047
I'm poor.

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>>158127047
>Don't mind me, I'm just stealing some anime.

Downloading something doesn't mean someone would pay for it. 90% of what I watch is shit anyways.

>>158127047
For the bst experience, I wanna use my customised player, codecs, renderer, interpolator, etc. For which I need offline access to the video file. Which current seasonal legal services don't provide.

>>158127047
Cause the pirate is free.

>>158127079
Buying third party merch does almost nothing to support the creators. Almost all of your money goes to GSC or whoever and a couple pennies per unit for their way into a licensing fee.

正規の人間で無いからだろ、ＰＫＯでも海外の派遣部隊と現地スタッフは一緒に銃を持って戦っても立場が違う、イラクのアメリカ軍が雇った現地通訳スタッフみたいなモノ、国に帰ったらさようなら

>>158127047
>Don't you wanna support your waifu and your favourite anime/manga?
No.

Anime isn't worth money.

>all those filthy entitled poorfags in this itt thread
Top fucking kak. Just stop breathing, you disgusting imbeciles.

>>158127370
stay ass mad my newfriend

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>>158128005
>when a kike calls someone else filthy

>>158128005
If your English is that bad, you may as well shitpost in your native language

You should head to /v/ or /g /.

>>158127895
>what is production committee
Here's a tip: most studio (unless they are KyoAni) are contracted and funded regardless if the product does well.
And yes, buying merchs funds the guys who actually funds the shows.

>>158128005
I'm poor but happy.

>>158128137
>And yes, buying merchs funds the guys who actually funds the shows.
wow this totally convinced me to support the animators by buying blu rays and dvds!

>>158127695
I like x anime so much and like x girl.
I buy and support this series and with it buy x girl figures and buy x stuff related.
I enjoy the anime and what I do shows that i like their work.
Vs
I like x anime so much and like x girl.
I don't support them however.
I enjoy the anime and what I do doesn't show i like their work.

>>158127047
Because if i not pirate, all my anime/mangas since the start =
14.000€ Animes.
70.000€ Mangas

>>158128198
>you can only like something if you consume consume consume consume
every time

Because you can't download rum.

>>158128212
1.67€ / episode
7€ / manga

>>158128245
You could make moonshine. That's kinda like pirating alcohol.

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>you can't pirate and buy figurines to show support
?
Why are you faggots so autistic?

>>158128245
One day, we'll have sufficiently advanced augmented reality, where sex waifus will have tactile sex with us the way we want and whenever we want.
All the benefits of masturbating and copulation without having to interact with any real living being.

>>158128245
It's called a recipe.

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>>158127423
I wonder who's behind this post?

>>158128295
I want to pirate the figurines and sell them for cheap on the markets of Mogadishu, but I doubt that there's enough cargo ships full with animu figurines shipping around to make it worthwhile to hire nigger pirates with guns and become lord of the seven seas.

>>158128194
If you're not aware, buying those actually support the animators as much as someone buying a merch.
To say otherwise is like saying purchasing an apple product supports the foxconn workers in some way or another.

Different is, if you buy a merch, you'll actually get a physical product worth a value while buying the discs gets you a piece of plastic, and maybe some cover box.

>>158128194
>what is investment
>what is IP ownership
You have to go back.

>>158128435
>IP ownership
hello goldstein

>>158128232
>I really like your work, i enjoy all your work illegally and you won't get a cent from me.
>Don't worry i still like it just as much as the people who show their love for your work so much they bothered to work to pay and support your company and through that you.
>You should love me as much as them.

No

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$80 is a lot of money for a single Blu-Ray consisting of 2-3 episodes.
If it guaranteed an S2, hell yeah I'd buy, but most anime is garbage I could live without watching in the first place and the stuff that (mostly) deserves a second season was never destined to get one because it was relegated to being an advertisement from the outset.

I only buy manga and some light novels I like enough to buy, don't care if it "helps sustain the industry.", in the west like a lot of retards claim I'm just glad I got some niche titles in English I wouldn't expect a decade ago. We're living in marvelous times.

>>158128457
>>158128194
>/pol/niggers can't type properly

>>158128470
>You should love me as much as them.
Who are you quoting retard?

>>158128482
Just try netflix, crunchyroll etc.
Through licensing they get some money at the very least.

>>158128470
>>You should love me as much as them.
>projecting this hard
This is some cringy ass shit.

>>158128387
I am not giving a shit about the animators.
All I want is more episodes of a show that I like.

I am willing to invest some amount of money into the show as long as the content is enjoyable enough. If it's not, I will give no shit about it anymore.

>>158128514
>streaming compressed anime when you can download the highest quality
what the fuck are you people retarded?

>>158128501
>>158128523
so they shouldn't love you and see you for the scum you are.
Glad to know

>>158128198
I do have some x anime and x girl that I like, and I buy their figurines and nendos from time to time (also gacha, coz I simply love gacha, while I assume it should have much less impact compared to other form of figurines). However as a seasonal anime viewer, I pirate to watch them coz of the same reason here >>158127839 , yet the anime industry is going to keep producing new stuffs by new artists, and the series that I liked already ended. Tell me, why shouldn't I pirate until I find my next wow-this-anime-got-best-girl-gonna-buy-the-figures?

>>158128482
Don't waste your hard-earned money on value less non-physical goods.
Go buyfag once a year and spend $200 on a merch or something from a show you truly appreciates.

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>>158128575
>so they shouldn't love you and see you for the scum you are.
Why do you think I give a shit about what nips drawing anime think about me? Why are you so obsessed with what other people think of you holy shit

>>158128554
>fuck capitalism I'm entitled to free expensive shit for no reason.

>>158127047
Why should I pay for it when I can get it for free and easier? All the episodes are automatically downloaded for me in better quality than streaming.

>>158128609
>I'm entitled to free shit
huh? I just pirate it? It's not like I'd go demanding free shit from studios if I was suddenly unable to pirate shit. why can't you faggots make an argument without making baseless assumptions about how people act?

>>158128609
>I should accept the shittiest possible service and be thankful for it

>>158128530
See >>158128594
Don't waste your money on intangible goods.
At least with merchs, you could actually sell those things when you needed the cash.

>>158128575
Jesus Christ, no one gives a shit what those people thinks about me.
Why are you even expecting that they'll like you if you just spend some shit on their stuffs.

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I'm too cool and badass to pay for things. It's tough being this awesome but I'll manage somehow.

>>158128602
Never said anything about animators, it's everybody who worked on it.
Seiyuus, writers and so on.
I like x so i buy x to show that i like it.
I don't act like a nigger and steal it's simple really.

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>>158128514
I buy figures and do have a netflix subscription; watched BLAME last night as a matter of fact.
I'd like to do more but really there's no point when, again, most shows are adverts the production committee had already washed their hands of at the time of airing (Konosuba sold like gangbusters, and even then they only begrudgingly gave it a cheap-ass 10 episode S2 instead of the full-adaptation it deserved).
Moreover I really liked Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikaku, bought tons of merch, bought the BDs, got a re-airing; amounted to fucking nothing, no S2.

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>Waste money on something you won't know the quality of until you've experienced the whole thing
Who the fuck actually does this? Are you fucking terrible with your money or something?

>>158128679
no, you are mori summer sama

>>158127047
Because I'm a britbong and i can't get it anywhere else.

>>158128679
Good for you- I can only not pay for valueless things like thoughts.

>>158128686
Yeah I'd rather not be obsessed with paying people to give me the misconception that people who live in a completely different country somehow give a shit about me

>>158128686
>still giving a shit about random people thinks about you
I really hope you're not an adult.

>I don't act like a nigger
>buying intangible goods
>2017
Well, you spend like a nigger.

>>158128738
I feel I should emphasize that stories are compilations of thoughts.

Have you guys talked about this yet?
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-06-03/funimation-subpoenas-cloud-hosting-platform-over-copyright-infringement-of-one-piece-anime/.116979

Also you guys might find this interesting.
https://youtu.be/K5nxyV0Jrvg?list=PLDnLw6-5epm-DF4i0fnnbu5kJ86KHFZ_u

I support the Anime of my Waifu but why should I care about all the other sluts out there?

>>158128838
Because you're waifu lives in a socialist state and wants you to support all her sisters.

>>158128821
>Funimation previously filed a copyright infringement complaint against 1,337 "John Does" for using BitTorrent to share a One Piece episode in 2011.

Oh man, I forgot all about that. What a load of shit.

>>158127047
Japan Anime Studios are bad at marketing their products.
They do little effort to broad their audience and instead keep focusing in the same saturated market.
They dont even try to translate their own animes to english and kickstart their own streaming service, instead they prefer to broadcast it on TV with horrible schedules.

Instead they waste a lot of effort trying to curb piracy the same happens with manga.

>>158128787
>intangible goods aren't real so I don't need to pay for it
>2017
Wow really going all out for this.
If something has value and you want it and it's not yours you give something of equal value, its basic capitalism.
If all electronics were deemed free as you said we wouldn't have a market and nothing really would thrive other than hobby work, really shit hobby work.
Also your argument falls flat since it's 2017 given how things work with intagible material now.

>buying advertisements

>guise, pirating is bad
>I buy figs and merch though
>n-no, buy a CR subscription instead!
Why isn't this thread deleted yet?

>>158127047
Because I'm not paying $400 USD for a blu ray set for a single fucking season. I mean at that price it better come with a fucking blowjob and back massage.

>>158129009
One right doesn't fix a wrong.

Trying to defeat piracy is like bashing your head against a brick wall. There is no stopping it, people will always find a way around it.

Now, making a better platform that attracts people to give up piracy works, just dont make it substandard like current streaming services. Just recently CR dropped their stream bitrate which pissed off its paying customers.

>>158129052
Tell your boss to offer better services if CR wants my money.

>>158128876
Exactly.

And shitshows like Funimation and Crunchyroll are the cancer of the western anime "industry.". You remember the crap Funi did with Prison School and le ebin "You're one of those gamergaters aren't you" BS, and CR's staff supporting AniFem, a SJW anime blog. If I wanted SJW bullshit in my anime, I'd take a SPAS-12 to my figurine collection, eat it, and shit it out, and mail it to Patricia Hernandez at Kotaku.

>>158128989
But, I don't own the anime when I buy it- the people who sold it to me do because they're afraid I'll show it to my friends without paying again.

>when anti pirate can't understand basic economics and won't give people an actual incentive to spend their money
lmao

>>158128989
>you give something of equal value, its basic capitalism
I don't think you know what capitalism is.
The merchant on the other side of the street don't get wealthy because he's trading goods on equal value at all times.
Value are dynamic and perceived, not examined, thus subjective.

No one's claiming that intangible goods are not real.
It's just a really poor way to spend your money on as you'll get something that is essentially worthless outside of your own personal use.
Go ahead if you want to spend like a nigger, I'm not stopping you.

>>158129115
Please, don't eat guns- they'll give you several kinds of poisonings.

>useful idiot moralfags
Companies fucking expect you to pirate, it's like your free trial. My professors openly advocated for all of the students to pirate Photoshop, modeling and programming software, etc. How the fuck are you supposed to learn if you have to pay thousands of dollars before you can get started?

Same shit here. You watch it for free, and if you like it you can go ahead and pay whatever ridiculous price they are asking for you to own it.

>>158129115
>AniFem, a SJW anime blog
I'm somewhat curious what this would be like but at the same time dont wish cancer upon myself

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>>158127047
Didn't Tatsun or some shit say that BD sales go to producers or distributors while merch sales goes to the studio?
Basically buying BDs encourages more seasons but to actually support the studio you should buy merch.

>>158128821
thanks anon, that's rather educational

>>158129100
I'm not talking about crunchroll.
A Seiyuu voice acts or a writer writes and people enjoy it want to thank them for their enjoyment and possibly see more or of their work so they get paid. If they didn't there would be no voice acting or story.
Basically you like the industry or you like anime, so support it, if you don't then they will go where the money is. In this case waifu figurines sell so more waifu moe anime.
Simple.

>>158129166
Even if they aren't equal like what you said they still get paid, due to demand for that product, and people deserve to get paid for their efforts. If you don't they need money and will get work elsewhere.
How will people know that something is popular if people don't buy it and support it.
Also niggers don't spend money they steal.

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>>158129115
Crunchyroll supports them all.

>>158129227
My nigga - This is what pirates like me believe in. If I like a artist who makes music after pirating their music - I buy their albums. If I like a game, I buy it after checking out a cracked copy. If I like a movie, I buy it after watching it online or from TPB. Companies need to understand this - By no means should piracy become commonplace, at least, more than it already is - But they should at least tolerate piracy to a point.

Has any japanese company ever taken action against western piracy or is it all just western companies?

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>>158129382
>mfw

>>158127047
To be honest, it's mainly because my shitty burgerland internet is inadequate for high-def streaming.

>>158129439
I know GAINAX did something against The Pirate Bay - They have legal docs on their website, or at least they did - If you want a good chuckle, give em a look if they're still there or if you can find em.

Fuck off to /v/. Nobody here cares.

>>158128787
>intangible
>Blu-rays and DVDs
It's literally tangible.

>>158129506
I know the page you are talking about, they used to have a list of all the DMCA notices they get and some snarky replies. But it seems to be gone now

>>158127346
Almost nothing that you pay money for goes directly to the people who design or craft it. This is true for almost any product you buy, not just anime.

So next time you go to the supermarket, steal all the food you want with a clean conscience, since the farmers have already been paid and the guys working the registers aren't working on commission.

>>158129510
Someone's a special flavor of assmad today.

>>158129358
>people deserve to get paid for their efforts
So basically you don't know how the industry works.
The studio are paid and contracted even before the show is completed, these people who funds the studio are called the production committee which involves various investors from megacorps.
Why does this production committee invests tons of money for a show? Because it's simply profitable. An average show will recoup its costs in 7 years, after that, its all passive income.
How does it do that? TV ad slots, and most importantly, merchs.

You're better off buying merchs like the rest of /a/ and stop wasting your money on worthless intangible good while pretending to be morally superior.

We have this discussions every year, and every time people are being fucking idiots and claim stupid shit without even spending 5 minutes to research what they are talking about.

>>158129615
Just looked it up - got your back senpai.
Enjoy the legal lulz:
https://web.archive.org/web/20120105212840/http://thepiratebay.org/legal

>>158129621
>you wouldn't download a food

>>158129621
Thanks for the permission slip.
There are people who were against superstores taking over the world you know.

>>158129621
>goes to grocery store
>steals sushi
>spends 2 months in jail
Thanks you anonynigger. Just because you can do shit like that, doesn't mean you should, lest you want a assfucking in the county jail.

>>158129621
We all do this. Self serve checkouts are great, save a few dollars by putting the top grade of fruit and veg through as the cheapest options.

>>158129595
I was referring to subscriptions, but sure.
Also a piece of mass produced plastic is nowhere as valuable as a figma or nendo.

I like Gundam, so I pirate all of the anime and my room is full of $3000 worth of Gundam models. And most people aren't going to give Sunrise a dime for any of their products. But that is fine, because there are enough Gundam fans out there that will. I haven't spent any money on any other anime product, because they don't interest me.

That's how the real world works. That's how capitalism works. I can spend money on what I want to spend money on, and if I don't give you money then another consumer will. And if nobody gives you money, you are weeded out and replaced by someone more competent who can sell more products than you.

>>158129657
Yes these people get paid through these producers. Producers pay the studio, and consumers pay the studio through the studio.
If these big wigs see money come in for a show they would be enticed to produce more like it and perhaps with that the same studio would get contracted again.

lol I don't have money

>>158129807
Cool, now the question if whether you spend your money on merchs every once in a while, or you pay subscriptions that funds a million merchants as middlemen.

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>>158127360
Once you get used to the finer things in life, you'll never wanna go back. Damn Peasant

>>158127047
I'd rather buy a BD or two of shows that I actually like than fund Crunchyshit.

>>158127047
Because I don't live in Japan or neighboring nations. And due to the Japanese being very poor at making their products easily accessible to me at a reasonable price, I obviously resort to other means.

Let's not pretend that Japan has put any real effort into market their shit out west. Their consumers are a small group of rich otaku who shell out loads of shekels for their hobbies at a premium price, but they will have to pursue a different strategy if they want westerners to buy their shit. Until the Japanese get their heads out of their asses, they HAVE to expect rampant piracy. It would be illogical to pretend otherwise.

>>158129880
I would like to pay a subscription direct to them like Netflix that produces it's own series.
I'm not interested in figures nor in blu-rays or DVD.
But i would like to watch anime subbed, and read manga and light novel up to date without having to wait months for a single chapter.

>>158129880
Now now, Bobby, the streaming service providers only have to pay the electronic rights distributor (who in most cases is also the disc producers), so all the Crunchy/Funi/Netflix/Amazon-money still goes to Sony or Bandai/Namco.

>>158127047
Jokes on you, I don't have money anyway.

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>>158127047

>>158130021
>I'm not interested in figures nor in blu-rays or DVD
Welp, I can't dictate you how to use your money, this isn't a communist state after all.

Well at least you can understand that most people or fan would be interested in figures/merchs, and they are too using their resources for their best interests.

>>158130026
>so all the Crunchy/Funi/Netflix/Amazon-money
>all
More like pennies. And since most electronic rights are sold on flat rates, it doesn't even matter if people subscribed or not.

>>158130026
Did trying to think of a way to demean your opponent in this argument take up the brainpower you needed to actually understand his point?

The electronic distribution market has been an astronomical boon to media producers. Piracy is a natural extension of that, just like bootleg VHS / CDs of the previous generation. Really, people downloading their videos "illegally" is a small price to pay for the ability to distribute their product digitally across the web.

>Amazon/Sentai/Daisuki/Funi/AN/CR be like: goyim, did you really expect some quality translation and video for money?

>>158127470
Lol
Are you me

>>158130204
If the western companies manage to trick the nip companies into accepting pennies, then so much better for them.

>>158130400
I thought this was about supporting the creators?

>>158130400
>if the western companies manage to trick consumers to 'support the industry', then so much better for them
Well anons on /a/ didn't buy the trick.
Don't know about that other guy there, seems like an easily tricked fellow.

>>158127047
I watch my shit fir free, but I kinda support I guess. I hour a BnHA poster a few days ago

>>158130469
Go to sleep, /a/non.

>>158130457
The creators are businessmen in suits laughing about dumb teenagers.

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>>158127047

If piracy was such an issue, we would see major companies going bankrupt left and right due to it.

All I see are media producers getting bigger and bigger, and much better off than they could have ever been had the internet not existed.

Piracy is not a problem for the sustainability of the open market, it is a problem for CEOs not being able to afford 4 mega-yachts, and having to settle for 3 instead.

>>158128687
>amounted to fucking nothing
What did you expect? If you think one person buying shit amounts to anything then you are fucking retarded.

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>>158127155
>*fansubbing days flashback*

>>158127047
i pay for the anime i pirate with my soul
i don' have much left

>>158127047
Anime airs on TV in Japan, so if for every episode I watch I go click on some Japanese ads, everything will be fine, right?

>>158130927
That makes sense.

>>158130927
If you be talking about the late-night shit that /a/ tends to talk most about each season, then literally watching the show is watching the advert.

>>158130995
nah

>>158131354
Sure it is. The anime is telling you to buy merchandise shit, BD or DVD shit, light novel shit, manga shit, and game app shit.

Because a good fansubber will put more work into it than any of the paid services do.

CR subs are basically 2007 tier, and do they even update their catalogues once BDs hit?

Because until the day comes where I can simply turn on the TV in the USA and have the same access to anime as the Japanese do, I will use the easiest and most effective means to watch it.

>>158129621
But then the store won't have money to buy the product from the producers in the future. This makes 0 sense.

>>158131637
TV is for fucking brainlet normies though.

>>158131722
If you don't steal things, then you'll make those poor mall cops sad, because they have nothing do.

>>158131637
Meh, at this point, using the internet is really far easier and gives access to more anime than Japanese TV itself.

>>158131831
>wanting to support authority figures

>>158131725
My point still stands that life is too short and complicated worry about how acquire my anime. Until there is a more simple way to get access to it than simply downloading a torrent, I would be a fool to do otherwise. There is someone else who will pay for it.

I buy mangos and figures though. Anime is usually shit so I pirate it.

>>158131946
Hey, they need the exercise to stay fit on their segways.

>anti-pirate /v/ermin are starting to shit on /a/ now
Who's next? /g/? When will this fucking cancer stop.

>>158132099
Oh god, will the RIAANiggers from /v/ on this thread just fuck off? Fucking moralfags need a good buckshot sandwich.

>>158132099
We have this thread every day on /v/ and /g/, it gets the same replies every time.

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Because local stores trying to cash in on the popularity by selling counterfeit

This image is enough to justify why people living in Singapore should blatantly pirate.

>>158127047
>Don't you wanna support your waifu and your favourite anime/manga?
No I don't the less influential the west is in anime the better

>>158132099
This is nothing new, and there will always be debates on the morality and ramifications of piracy as long as it exists (AKA until the end of time.)

>>158127047
I bought a Berserk shirt from Hot Topic does that count?

>>158127155
>no more drama
just look at the state of torrent trackers after nyaa. There's half a dozen of them all broken as shit and in constant attrition with each other

>>158127047
Why would I ever buy that new Berserk anime on Blu-ray?

>>158131457
>Because a good fansubber will put more work into it than any of the paid services do

Sadly we know this is fucking false. Sure initially they're way better. Then fansubbers (like scanlators) get into gay little dick measuring drama contests and fuck everything up for the rest of us.

>>158127047
I spent 200 bucks on my waifu last week.

Remember to sage anti-piracy threads.

>>158131457
>do they even update their catalogues once BDs hit?
I'd assume streaming rights for the BD version are a separate thing from rights to the TV version, and that they're more difficult and expensive to obtain since one of the main points of the broadcast version is to sell discs.

>>158132832
>he pays for his waifu
How does it feel to know that you're waifu is a prostitute?

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>>158129115
>You remember the crap Funi did with Prison School and le ebin "You're one of those gamergaters aren't you" BS
Wait, what?

>>158133255
I treat my waifu, but dubs are shit so I rip em.

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>>158128369
Do it
Be the man you want to be

>>158133452
http://nichegamer.com/2015/10/02/funimation-distances-itself-from-writers-shoehorning-politics-into-english-dub-for-prison-school/

>>158132358
It's NEVER been as bad as this, though.

>>158127208
doing god's work

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Buying BD = supporting production committee and businessmans.

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>>158133500
I fear for the future of anime as it edges towards the mainstream in the West.

>>158133657
Razgriz (and our waifus) help us all, /a/non.

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>>158127047
*teleports behind your sales figures*
nothing personal kid

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>>158128005
enjoy wasting money on something you can get for free faggot

>>158128369
EY YO JACKIE CHAN HAND OVER THEM WAIFUS YA SQUNTY EYED MUTHAFUCKA!

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>>158128369
>ywn crack the African weeb market with cheap knock-offs
>ywn live like Nicholas Cage in Lord of War except exporting counterfeit anime figures and BDs instead of weapons and munitions

I'm surprised nobody has posted about that faggot on twitter with the lupin avatar that shills for CR constantly.

I don't pirate because I don't wanna get fucked by my ISP. Fucking Japanese ISPs monitor that shit and I can't be arsed to do VPN/seedbox

>>158127047
Because I'm leeching off my parents and can't just tell them "dad I need money to buy this overpriced chinese cartoon".

>>158134004
Meme

>>158133982
I'd forgotten about that cancerous faggot. Anybody remember his Twitter handle?

>>158134004
>tfw ISPs in my country are required by law to issue written warnings to people they catch pirating
>3 warnings and you will be charged with piracy
>they occasionally catch somebody pirating some mainstream normie shit and send the letters
>even after 3 letters nothing ever happens because the ISP market it quite competitive here and they are afraid of losing customers even if they are breaking the law

>>158132239
Ahah, this. Pretty much every anime discs in SEA are bootlegs, no matter how much photocopied "official" certificates they plastered in.

>>158134119
>Pretty much every anime discs in SEA are bootlegs
>SEA
Well there's your problem.

>>158133982
I'm suprised that he doesn't have a CR button shoved up his faggoty ass.
>>158134004
>can't be arsed to use VPN
Dude - Avast has one for 40 bucks a year. Same with Tunnelbear.

That and when I got caught pirating NFS:HP 2010, EA just told my ISP to shut off my net, and they turned it on after I reagreed to the TOS.

Why is this garbage thread still up.

>>158134101
What's a meme?

>>158134110
>>158134219
I don't want my residence card revoked which can happen if they charge me with piracy. Didn't give shit about it in my home country but it's different here.

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>>158129621
>So next time you go to the supermarket
>He goes to the supermarket
Haha, look at this looser. If you don't produce most of your food yourself and get the rest from a farmers market you can straight up kill yourself. I bet you don't even have bees.

>Paying for processed food
haha

>>158134357
Are you born in 2000 or something? No one gives a fuck about piracy in Japan. It's meme. Unless you're uploading tons of stuff and makes money from it

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>This thread.
>No, I won't pay a dime to these studios, damn these japanese and their shit taste.
>Meanwhile, series loved by /a/, like flip flappers sold like shit, while yuri on ice is breaking records.

>New season thread.
>Hey, anon, what are you watching this next season?
>Moe crap, moe crap, generic shounen NotNaruto series #2501, moe crap, moe crap, fujoshit, moe crap, moe crap...
>Damn these Japanese, why they can't be bothered to do something good for a change?
>Because moe crap sells! That's why.

How it feels to know any fujoshi throwing some pocket change have much more power over the industry than this entire board?

>>>/g/60755443
Fuck off.

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>>158134544
>Meanwhile, series loved by /a/, like flip flappers

>>158134544
Feels good. I don't care about industry

>>158134457
Maybe but why risk it when it's on the TV for free and netflix/hulu costs buttons.

>>158128610
Pretty much this. As far as I'm concerned the anime industry is so shit at distributing anime to western audiences that piracy offers a better experience than legal methods.

Honestly if anime can't figure out how to compete with pirates, it doesn't deserve to make money off of viewership. If they can't figure out how to make money by other means (and they are).

If anime were to die tomorrow because piracy is killed the industry, I wouldn't care. The reason why I like it is because it caters to autistic Japanese NEETS in the hopes that a few will buy their shirty plastic dolls and drama CDs. Give them normal revenue options then shitty pandering, fanservice, and unique ideas disappear. We'll be left with shit that appeals to the widest audience. Everything SAO

>>158134544
/a/ doesn't love flop floppers

>>158127047
>Don't you wanna support your waifu and your favourite anime/manga?
no

>salesfags

>>158127047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol-SAWurTxY

>>158134656
Nobody here on /a/ should. The ones who should care should be the ones who can influence it for real, as in, politicians in Nipponland enacting laws to tell the studios to treat their slaves more humanely, and studio presidents with more backbones talking back at the cheap-ass producers demanding a higher cut of the money.

But the studio execs prefer the current work model anyway. They get assured constant new cheap project offers because they promise that the staff they hired will finish the anime within a year with the meager budget ready for TV broadcast, cutting on corners everywhere.
And the ultimatebetaomega-otaku animators will eat shit because being treated like shit at least means that they get to work on shit, instead of having to look out for another job.

Westerners shouldn't give out pity-money to such a system. If the nips want to fix their nipponimation industry with its underpaid shitty animators who are all overworked and stressed out, they should do it on their own without begging for scraps like sniveling dogs.

>>158127047
>don't you want to suck jakob's jew cock?
Fuck yourself shit for brains.

There is no legal anime localisation/distributing industry where I live.

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>>158134828
>Historical revisionism

It doesn't matter. You could screech all day /a/ hates flip flappers, it won't change, at one hand, the fact /a/ had 500+ replies threads every time a new episode aired, and even today there are still /u/fags posting threads about it; and at the other hand, the main argument remains the same, because that was just an example. I could have said keijo, the point remains the same.

Any fujoshi with some pocket change is more important to the industry than this entire board.

>>158134979
Good post

>>158135340
lol

>>158134979
You're one delusional faggot. Do you also believe the minimum wage should be increased to the double?

Hint: if the industry isn't profitable, the workers won't become millionaires.

>>158135647
>industry isn't profitable

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>>158127895
Merch is the most important thing when it comes to supporting the industry. By the way, that foreign income is from China not USA.

>>158135340
Mayoiga had 1000+ replies threads all the time.

>>158135715
>Conspiracy theory
>muh 99%

Without piracy you faggots wouldn't even know what Anime was.

I lived during a time before the internet, to me anime was buying a 60 minute VHS for my monthly allowance. It was dubbed, there were no reviews so it was probably shit and yet I still spent 6 years of my life doing it.

The only reason you posers are here is because to you, anime was free, on your computer and someone on the internet told you what shows to watch.

>>158135862
Weaksauce. I also lived before the era of the internet, and I watched anime on TV.

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>>158135862
Go to bed, grandpa. I bet you use fiber and not your telephone to connect to the internet too you poser.

>>158135862
>The only reason you posers are here is because to you, anime was free

>Therefore, piracy help to casualize anime,

Thanks, mate, for further proving why piracy was bad for the industry.

You don't give a thought before posting it, right?

>>158136007
Speed Racer and Candy Candy doesn't count. Akira almost counts but good luck catching that on TV.

>>158136060
Anime was never good

>>158136060
>anime is nothing special in Japan
>muh secret club
You're not like others, right?

>>158136101
Don't you dare dissing on Speed Racer and Candy Candy (I do wonder if Speedy ever found out that the mysterious racer X is his brother Rex who ran away from home years ago).
I also watched Heidi, Astro Boy, Captain Harlock, Maya the Bee, Saint Seiya, Fist of the North Star, a bunch of weird mecha-shit and whatever else Club Dorothée was willing to air.
I even watched them uncensored the first time, before the French moralfag guardians started to realize that those Japanese anime shows were actually quite violent. And man, Samurai Pizza Cats was the best thing ever since sliced pizza.
It was a glorious era.

But now, everything is even better than before. It is the bettererest.

>>158136536
>before the French moralfag guardians started to realize that those Japanese anime shows were actually quite violent

It was inevitable, during the pussy era for cartoons you couldn't even portray conflict in shows like the get-along gang. Meanwhile cute anime shows like candy candy has the love interest fall from a horse, snap his neck and fucking die.

>Try to be legal and buy anime
>Get put on the FBI's list over potential child molesters

>>158131725
>normies

>>158135769
Most people want to support a studio, not the industry. Your chart just proves what all the anti-piratefags have been saying.

>>158135340
Kill yourself fucking imbecile. Bastard son of a bitch.

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>>158138903
>Most people want to support a studio
Hence why the Trigger patreon is gaining traction.

> dont you wanna support your waifu
I already bought bloodborne and the DLC
> and your favourite anime/manga
Already bought steel ball run's physucal copies and some S.A.S why would I spend money on blu ray that I can get for free and aren't even good quality?

>>158127047
>implying you can't do both
I buy my manga and figurines, that's enough.
Fuck off CR.

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>implying chinese cartoon sub isn't the new frontier
I never wanted gettho sub back so much.

>>158138903
The studio gets paid, no matter how much money you spend on bluray or merch they get paid the same. Unless they are part of the committee in that case supporting the industry is the same as supporting the studio because they get a share of whatever you buy plus they get get paid too.

>>158127047
>supporting anime
>ever
>buying digital goods
>ever
I buy manga I like after I read them. Thousand of € worth of manga even though I've always been unemployed.
>>158127079
>buying figs
This is the worst of them all.

>>158127047
I'm poor. I don't have the option of buying the anime or spending money on it. I like being able to have something to eat when I come home hungry after work.

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>>158140082
>This is the worst of them all.
But figs look nice, as opposed to rows of manga or BDs on your shelves.

>>158127047
because then shit like PsycoPass 2 happens.

>mfw I even bought that badass dominator and the BD

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>>158128245
Based anon, post yours.

>>158127047
>it's a /v/ makes another terrible thread episode

>>158140202
Fucking faggot.

10 times better a newfag that buys Naruto than a faggot who buys figs.

I will never pay to stream. If I like a manga series I buy it, if I like an anime series I import merch from Japan, from the studio's own store if I can but they don't always ship overseas. The real trick is buying directly from the studio, because otherwise they only get a small cut of whatever profits are made. For studios like KyoAni this is easier, but I have a hard time buying directly from studios like SilverLink.

Bullshit. CR is the cancer of the earth, so is fansub nowadays mostly because they're are all CR jews by now anyways. If you want to buy shit you do it directly from Japan. Anything else is just you being normalfag pleb and the bottom of cancer.

>>158140517
Being such you should fucking kill yourself.

>>158127047
I wouldn't mind supporting the industry more if the japs actually put effort into allowing us to support them. Nobody buys BDs before watching a show. If I were japanese I'd probably just dvr or something but because I'm a foreigner I can't do that.

>>158140245
>>mfw I even bought that badass dominator
Do it works? ^)

>>158140517
This is why narutards shouldn't be allowed here.

>>158127047
Pirating anime is a little bit different morally than pirating video games. More often than not an anime doesn't have an official HQ foreign release and even so asking somebody to buy a BD before watching a show isn't very reasonable. Video games work differently. Most of the time people can buy a game as easily as they could torrent one. Lets not confuse the two.
Crunchyroll is not a valid solution.

People don't actually want to support the studios or the production committees, but the animators who work themselves to death.
On the other hand, should people really try to help otaku who do things that earns them the Darwin award?
If they really want to work themselves to fatal exhaustion levels willingly, why should anybody even step in?
People know that that they shouldn't smoke too many cigars, people know that they shouldn't drink too much or drive around while drunk, and yet they do so anyway.
At some point, people should just shrug and take on the Japanese proverb of "It can't be helped" and be smug about their plights.
It can't be helped that otaku animators want to be exploited like miserable slaves.

>>158140818
But you shouldn't give money to Funi or CR thieves, either. It shouldn't be an option for you. If you think it's troublesome to get stuff, then don't.

>>158140804
Yeah, if you buy figs you should kill yourself, I agree.
>>158140928
This is why buyfags should be banished to /jp/.

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>>158141073
I don't. Crunchyroll is garbage. Basically the tl;dr of this whole thread.

the only one making money with my purchase is the chinese reseller that gets 70% of the amount i pay.

export pachinkos worldwide

>>158127079
This, streaming accounts for almost no revenue for anime. If I could I would pay patreons for studios I enjoy. I also have merchandise too.

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I buy physical

>>158132453
We have half a dozen of them because we don't want to take the chance of any one of them going down. And we're (mostly) trying to cooperate with each other.
>>158132419
Isn't that the place that sells indie rock and emo wear?

>>158143241
Nah, streaming from overseas accounts for 583 billion yen in the year 2016.
Making lots of anime shows and selling them all to chinks and burgers makes the producers rich.
Not the studios, but they've always been nothing more but imbeciles with their own shares of imbeciles as followers.

No money

>>158144235
Can you fuccboyis fix the seeder tracking? It's kind of a crapshoot when trying to get something.

>>158127047
They made a shitty adaptation of my waifu's life. They don't deserve any money.

>>158140076
That's not what your chart says. Your chart says domestic studios make as much money off of movies and videos as they do merchandise. In almost every instance, studios make twice as much off of TV than they do merchandise.

BDs are absurdly expensive, otherwise I'd buy more. Not going to pay for streaming because downloading is higher quality. I do buy some manga though.

I bought 1000€ worth of manga I think I did my part

>>158149929
You supported the manga industry, not the anime industry.
For this, you must commit shinjuku.

>>158150579
>>158140082

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>>158127047
>1990+27
>giving a fuck
>not doing what you want when you want all the time

>>158127047
I do support my favorite anime/manga and my waifu's source material already ended. The only reason why I don't buy as many BD or manga I would like to is because
>200$ package
>hit by 100$ customs
>EU believe this is ok
The sooner this commie cancer die the better.

I'm forgetting, but does anyone have sources on how when people pay for Crunchyroll subscriptions, the money acquired from subscriptions isn't used top pay for those who gave licenses to Crunchyroll?

>>158127047
Because I always choose the easiest path
No

>>158127047
Yes, I'm not giving money to SJW companies

>>158152335
>commie
It's called capitalism.

>p-piracy is wrong!
>y-you're being bad
Yes, we know that. This is the same group of people who jacks off to 2D children and lives off of NEETbucks. Do you think we give a single shit that something is "morally wrong"?

>>158152641
>steal money to give others
>not commie
Real capitalism wouldn't allow something like this because it go against free market and harm potential profit.

>>158134544
Japs don't care about any sales except jap sales, only ones that do are stuff funded by kickstarter like Little Witches

>>158152817
>steal money to give it to yourself
Yep.
Free market is only internal, retard.

>>158152641
It actually goes against the free market, protectionism isn't capitalism

BD prices are absurdly high and designed to fleece obsessed otaku. Nobody should be enabling this.
CR and Funi provide an inferior service, for money, to Horriblesubs, which is free.
If you want to support the industry, buy merchandise.

>>158153067
>>158152817
You guys are fucking stupid, in real communist countries you'd not be free to buy ladibois comics on the internet from Nihongo and then complain on 4chan because you paid a bit of customs. If you ever managed to do that right now you'd be in a dark cell shitting in a corner. If you're lucky.

I don't really count myself as a person

We shud all get things for free. I'm not going to pay for something that encourages me to be unproduktive and waste valuble aging time

>>158153335
Those are already illegal in my country, soon they plan to become the world leader in internet censorship because a bunch of shitskin keep bombing us

>>158153491
Good. Now go out of your basement and start procreating for the glory of your country.

>>158153665
No way, I'm giving some whore a lifetime paycheque

Every dollar I could spend on BDs or figures is another step towards Japan considering pandering to the west. I would rather only have one or two shows that truly appeal to me each season than the entire industry turned into a virtue-signalling mess that almost all western entertainment has become.

>>158152960
>give it to yourself
They give it to goat fuckers, EU is bleeding money like this for some time now.
>>158153335
There are people from real communist countries in buyfag thread, and we had entire subculture based around imported stuff before communism collapsed here, so it's definitely not impossible just more expensive, unless you live in best korea.

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Who here doesn't care?
Even if anime, TV, movies, books, etc. ALL stopped being produced today because of the "harmful" effects of piracy I would not care. My media backlog would last me several lifetimes. Of course that will never happen because piracy has very little effect on industry. People who pirate aren't people who would be paying for these vast amounts of material without the internet.
>b-but i pirate so i can buy what i like later...
literally lmao. I hate people who try to justify this sort of behaviour. I don't care about the moral implications of piracy and i believe most pirates don't either

>>158154100
>I hate people who try to justify this sort of behaviour
>I don't care about the moral implications of piracy
Hurr durr.

I wonder exactly how much of the 5 million a year CR makes from subs actually goes to the japanese studios

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>>158154450
i guess you're one of those idiots who tries to excuse his piracy? or even worse, one who doesn't pirate at all?

>>158154646
You're not very good at logic, are you?

>>158154711
elaborate

>>158127047
I don't actually watch enough anime to justify a Crunchyroll, Funimation or Anime Strike subscription. I rarely watch new shows as they're airing for instance