>shy >introverted >weakling >oblivious to women Why

Maybe if anime put out more assertive MCs the guys there wouldn't have trouble asking women out.

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So faggots can self insert I was very happy when episode 13 of pic related aired and all the self inserters got BTFO'd

>>157910333
>self inserting in anime
I understand If you do it in video games, but in anime I think is autistic and a sign of insecurity.

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Barring the oblivious part I wouldn't mind it if the MC's shyness actually lead to consequences.

>>157909948
>Why are the majority of male MC's always so shit?
This gets asked all the time and the answer is always the same. Lurk more.

>>157910469
A little bit of shyness is ok. The problem is when they overdo it
>>157910499
>lurk more

>>157910469
By that, you mean
>feminization
>femdom
>pegging
?

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What are some based MCs?

>>157910922
Onizuka from gto

>>157909948
Short Answer: Shinji Ikari
Long Answer: The problem isn't even as wide-spread and exasperated as you think it is, you just need to look beyond the surface of mediocre pandering harem bullshit. Even for basic shounenshit, I can't remember one who wasn't focused on becoming powerful and was fairly outgoing. Oblivity to women is much more common, but that's mainly to prevent the series from dipping into romance unintentionally.
So basically you just need to watch more anime and stop complaining about percieved problems in an medium you barely know anything about.

>>157909948

Pic related is shit

He's an edgy teenager

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>>157909948
Because that's what anime studios believe is easiest for the audience to self insert into.

If you don't like it - become rich, famous, and beautiful and let everybody know you love anime. Then they'll change it. Easy, right?

>>157911098
He develops beyond that, which is what the series is about. And OP clearly doesn't have a problem with a character being edgy, otherwise it would be in his list of qualities he dislikes.

>>157910762
If it would not sell like shit I would be inclined to say "Yes".

>>157911201
Tons of famous people like anime but the cultural landscape hasn't changed at all because of it.

>>157909948

because that would require actual effort

>>157911098
>edgy
He doesn't give a fuck. Thats all

>>157911254
>Tons of famous people like anime
[citation needed]

>>157911201
Lmao anime is not even liked or considered a majority in japan. The audience compared to citizen ratio is small. Thr reason we get weak mc is because the majority of anime fans are weak fucks that were bullyied in hs

>>157911415
>Lmao
Ahyup. It's summer.

>>157911464
I'm not an americuck thank god

>>157911318
Clint Eastwood, Zack Efron, Samuel L Jackson, Terry Crews, Robin Williams, Lupe Fiasco, Keanu Reaves, Kanye West, Leonardo DiCaprio, etc.
Christopher Nolan also cited Paprika as his primary influence when making Inception, but I don't have a clue if he's shown any more of his powerlevel, or lack thereof.

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>>157909948
What about best husbando?

>>157911682
I understand. Do you want western shit to influense anime?

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>>157911724
Or best husbando manlet edition?

>>157911740
No, I wasn't the guy who first suggested becoming famous could change things.

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>>157911724
>>157911750
Or I'm the reason the universe exist husbando?

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>>157911724
>>157911750
>>157911781
Sad husbando?

>>157910333
A trained Knight vs. Autistic suicidal Japanese high-school drop out.

It wasn't much of a fight. Subaru should've suicided and redid the match.

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>>157909948
Because you seem to be only watching/reading shit?

>>157910446
>not wanting to be in the situation the MC finds themselves in and imagine how YOU would work your way out of it

If you think it's autistic or whatever, that's just because you can't appreciate stories beyond being a spectator.

>>157910333
>I was very happy to see an autistic faggot be autistic the whole way through the series

Sounds like you have issues.

>>157911839
I'm sorry I don't do that in TV shows.

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Because most otaku are shy, introverted virgins. If they don't self insert then the series won't sell.

>>157910922
Tobia Arronax from Crossbone Gundam.

>>157909948
The MCs reflect the audience

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>>157910922
I miss this dude so much

>>157911098
>everyone who doesn't murder, rape, and obliterate all human life is a pussy beta
>everyone who dares touch m'lady is edgy
Where's the middle ground guys?

>>157911682
What anime does DiCaprio like?

>>157911682
Zack Snyder cited Tetsuan Birdy for Man of Steel as well

>>157914618
He supposedly owns or owned the rights to do an adaptation of Akira and Ninja Scroll, and at a conference in Tokyo, 2010 he said he was a huge fan of japanese cinema and anime, but only named Spirited Away as an example. Considering he starred in Inception I have to assume he's also seen Paprika.

>>157914469
OP pic is middle ground

>>157909948
Pic related is all that, the only difference is that he is actually well written

>>157914469
The middle ground is boring

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>>157910922
Akatsuki from Hagure Yuusha no Aesthetica. The most based MC ever.

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>>157915482
This. There's nothing wrong with the traits in the OP, stories only suffer when writers don't have the awareness to take advantage of them.

>>157916164
Guess I gotta agree.

>>157909948
Because you apparently only read young adult fiction manga that follow fantasy structure. Bratty, naive kid is thrown into the world, learns harsh realities, grows, etc., Etc. There's probably some image that shows it but fuck it.

They write their mc's like that so we can have a "character arc" of them "growing up" and not being such whiny shitters. It appeals to the masses because who can't relate to feeling self conscious? They turn that behavior up to 11 so that it feels more important when the mc finally does something.

There's a reason this stuff is mass produced. It's easy to write and easy to exploit. Writers don't have to try and think of interesting characters because the whole thing is held up on the easiest type of character arc. Give them some kind of interesting power or item, a cute side kick, and a love interest and Bam. You'll sell 50k copies of your first few volumes before the series dies when your readers get bored because you can't write your way out of a wet paper bag and you do it all again.

>>157910922
Kamina and Simon

>>157910446
Even self-inserting in videogame is autistic. It is one thing to relate to the character (empathy), but it is another to needing to be the character to create empathy. That lack of empathy shows autism.

>>157910922
Sugimoto the Immortal

>>157909948
>shy
you mean realistic, and of proper social conduct
>introverted
you mean not an adhd asshole with entitlement issues
>weakling
you mean lean, attractive muscles not chocking the bloodflow to the brain
>oblivious to women
you mean pure

>>157917260
The thing with Simon is that his shyness and cowardice is a character flaw that he has to overcome during his development.

>>157918193
What? Kind of projecting there buddy...

>>157918240
>projecting
you mean objectively correct

>>157918240
I don't think you know what projecting means. Not that the other guy knows what he's talking about either.

>>157918266
>what I say is the truth
You have issues anon

>>157913313
Unfortunately, this is true.

The MC's reflect the wishes of the audience, and the lack of experience from the creators. The audience wants wish fulfillment and they can't relate to a character if they are assertive, cool, and popular. Likewise, a creator who never left the comforts of home would know nothing except a sheltered and isolated life.

This is why artists should at least travel around, it gives them depth and experience that would make for much better stories and work.

>>157918193
Faggot

>>157910333
>>157910446
It's not exactly self-insert, more a point of association, so that target audience immediately liked MC by sympathizing with his character. Logical commercial move, since most of anime-viewing audience are shy introverted virgins, but pandering to core audience can only get you so far as that particular audience.

>>157918231
That was his point.

>>157918550
It looks like he was simply agreeing with the Simon-poster.

>>157917184
shit show, best protag

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>>157910922
itou and mitsuhashi