Linlin easily breaks Yoruru's weapon and punches him into the ground. She quickly heads towards the giants' food storage sheds to collect the Semla.
Carmel extracts her/a soul and gives life to the village's fire which makes it calm down. This was to restore peace to the village and to feed Linlin Semla.
Yoruru died there. The orphans from the Lamb's House run from the enraged giants.
A new Lamb's house is rebuilt elsewhere.
Carmel was in cahoots with the World Government. While pretending to be a nun, she would collect children and sell them to various places. She was going to sell Linlin to the government for a huge sum.
On Linlin's birthday there was a pile up of Semla to make a Croquembouche for her. She and the children were going to eat together. Linlin was so happy she couldn't see through her tears, she headed towards the Semla.
When she'd eaten the Semla and reverted back to normal, Linlin didn't see Carmel or the other kids, though she'd expected them to be there.
Linlin: Mama!!! Where did you go??
tl;dr Big Mom is so fat she ate everyone.
This kid is alive and he'll be present at the Reverie.
I really hope that poison strategy works on this monster.
Caramel is still alive, so how big mom got the soul fruit needs to be explained.
Oda must really, really hate giants.
Giants equipped with armor and swords and experienced in fighting humanoids lost to a 5 year old girl who never fought anything humanoid before.
I just can't see an assassination plot working out in a fighting manga like One Piece. I'm sure you could pull out some examples from other fighting series like Hunter x Hunter, but I can't see a Yonko dying like that in OP.
He's just downplaying them so that when SH's do get to Elbaf, the strength of royals probably suprise us. If there's prince loki, there may be a prince thor, etc. So I still wouldn't say they're complete jobbers imo.
Newfags think Ceaser's poison isn't gonna be a fucking joke when Ceaser's superweapon poison he worked so hard on couldn't even give Kinemon any permanent damage.
No assassination plot. BM will get her ass handed to her though
>Luffy, Capone, Brooks, and Nami vs BM
>Sanji and Jimbe vs Katakuri
>Pedro, Carrot and Chopper vs Smoothie
>Vinsmokes, Jimbes crew, and Ceasar vs the Rest
Lillyn who straightened the sword he swung down
without difficultily threw the yolule on the ground as it is
Giants going to pick up Semara stored in the food store in a hurry
Carmel extracted Seoul from the palm of the hand and lived in the fire of the village As The Fire Subsided By
Being Obedient, Linglyn Also Tossed Semula And Took A Nap As It Is.
Finally The Village Regains Calmness.
In The End Joruru Died As It Is, Children Of The Sheep 'S House Leaving The Land Of Elbaf As If To From The Angry Escape Giant In Order To Build A Sheep House
Again In The New Land.
Carmel Dodge Talks With The World Government.
Carmel Was A Scoundrer Who Flirted Our Lady, Gathered Our Children And Sold Them All Over The Place.
Carmel trying to sell Lwinnhin that broke Elbaf halfway to the government at a high price.
Linlin 's birthday, children celebrating with Crocan Bush piled up Semara in the heap.
Everyone together to eat Semula.
Lingling is also happy tears and it sticks to Semula In A State Where He Can Not See The Front.
Eating Up The Desks And Chairs For Each Semla, There Is No Appearance Of Carmel And Children Should Have In Front Of But Lingling Regained Composure Eye
Mom "Did You Go To Anywhere Mazaa !!! "
Mark my words. He'll having something to say about
Big Mom's defeat.
And the giant girl will befriend the SHs when they reach Elbaf.
Kureha is like 140 years old, although she's abnormal. I would think that someone with the soul soul fruit would be able to live much longer however (if they can steal lifespans). That being said, I don't think that Miss Bakkin is Carmel.
Obviously she didn't. We know that BB didn't eat WB to get his fruit. He must have prepared a fresh fruit to get the Gura-Gura powers transferred into it.
Regardless, we can probably be sure that Caramel is dead, since BM has her powers. Unless this flashback is about to reveal some new DF mechanic, that lets the user to voluntarily give up the fruit powers. But I doubt that'd be the case.
Well its pretty much about about an epic war between a royal family. But it includes almost every type of story imaginable and goes into depth explaining the backstory of each of the characters. Includes dieties and gods with their own backstories. Has huge philosophical discussions. Its bretty fukin good imo. You can probably find a translated summary pdf somewhere. It's good to pass the time imo.
She killed her and ate it.
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Here is additional info from spoiler provider on 2ch:
Carmel's epithet is "Orphans dealer" and "Yama-Uba" ("Yamanba")
After got exiled from Elbaf, Carmel demanded a large amount of money to World Government, saying that such a talented kid like Linlin will be able to become Admiral or Fleet Admiral.
The reason why Carmel sneaked into Elbaf in the first place is to sell John Giant to Marines. She deals orphans since it's hard to get arrested.
Carmel wants to retire from the business as soon as possible once she receives the money for Linlin from WG since orphan-dealing is not a easy task.
Anyone notice these two have always had a lot of sexual tension towards each other?
Caramel probably gets killed by some 3rd party who hates slavers before she can meet up with the WG people and the fruit appears somewhere on the island where Big Mom is. That bitch can eat. No piece of food for miles is safe.
Garp joining the marines is still kind of wacky to me. I mean the dude knows how fucking shady the WG and Marines are and all the fucked up shit that they have to do. Yet for all those years he just turned a blind eye to it, even though hes a D. I hope we get a Garp redemption story, where he realizes that for all those years he's supported a cancerous organization.
>Carmel was in cahoots with the World Government. While pretending to be a nun, she would collect children and sell them to various places. She was going to sell Linlin to the government for a huge sum.
The Promised Neverland
>tfw the whole df regeneration thing was shown and demonstrated explicitly on PH
>in the exact same arc that a character with a unique and powerful fruit is introduced, and then immediately killed literally out of nowhere
face it, the fruit's on the ship. setting up a straw hat with a logia is the entire reason monet's character ever existed - i mean literally what purpose did she serve other than to have another strong character on caesar's side on PH? and what the FUCK would be the point of making everyone think she was dead when she actually wasn't? her death meant nothing, it was completely murder ex machina, if oda had decided that caesar didnt stab her heart at the end of PH literally nothing changes other than a) she shows up at dressrosa and pees her pants at the sight of zoro, and b) her devil fruit isn't up for grabs. it just doesn't make sense from a storytelling perspective, everything in one piece happens for specific reasons and given what an irrelevant character monet was oda would have no reason to pretend to kill her off
Garp sat back while all those pregnant women the Marines caught either were forced to get abortions or murdered alongside their baby.
Garp is a beta piece of hypocrite shit.
He's no hero.
I'm trying to look up the chapter but Pekoms was recuperating with Jinbe's crew and was spazzing out about BM when he woke up. So I think they may be coming back, after all what sort of crew would leave their captain behind to a likely death.
Yeah I really like Garp and his character design and everything but this is true. He's strong as fuck and rather than using his strength to actually help people, he's just a dog of the celestial dragons. What do you think the best thing he did was, catch a couple of pirates? Fucking Luffy, while still being relatively weak, did a lot more good than Garp ever accomplished in his decades long career.
>linlin eats carmel and gains her soul fruit ability
titan shifter from attack on titan
>carmel is a fake nun shipping kids to WG
>linlin takes souls from one body and place in another
konpaku from bleach
>vinsmoke massacre plan
red wedding from game of thrones
Oda is not only recycling his own arcs but is now copying from other series too. Genius indeed. Genius thief for stealing from other series.
celestial dragons might be hiding some secret but there exist a worse threat in the form of pirates. just because two or three crews are good doesn't mean pirates are the good guys. big mom destroys cities for sweets, kidd does so too. doflamingo enslaved an entire nation. jack destroyed a nation because they said raizo wasn't there. so garp's choice is perfectly logical.
That would be the most savage outcome for this story. I hope Oda has the balls to make Big Mom into a legit cannibal even if it's accidental. He still hasn't explained what happened with her intro when she ate that potentially human (or equivalent) subordinate.
Yeah and Garp did what exactly? All the pirates that are a MAJOR threat, in terms of having control of nations or whatnot are in cahoots with the WG. The marines cant in terms of the pirates that cause the most harm so they stick to fodder and to arrest those that actually do have a chance to change the world for the better. The marines exist to maintain order, but order is the problem for much of the OP universe, because order is maintained by douchebags.
>BM pirates are heavily based around European folk/fairy tales like Grimms'
>she ate the children, like the Big Bad Wolf
>SH defeat BM and cut her belly open to free the children who were alive all along
>arrest those that actually do have a chance to change the world
it's like saying that the people (garp) who join as government servants (VA) should support terrorists (Pirates) because governments (WG) are corrupt.
Sure. But thats not Luffy's fault. Thats the fault of fate and of the prison security for ever thinking they could trust Shillew. Ultimately BB was responsible and that sort of reasoning can twist any good person into evil or any evil person into good.
Magellan was pretty retarded: yo! You on death row help me here!
Shirley: no longer on death row?
Magellan: no, no, no we'll execute your ass but help me. Don't try to escape thougj.
I never got the HXH hype. It just seems like an edgy shounen tournament/battle manga. The fuck do I care if the characters have "fucked up morals", there's barely any world building and compared to OP it just seems stale. But thats just my opinion.
I don't see the need to troll both OP and HxH have their strengths and weaknesses.
>A bit wordy
>Inconsistent and at times indecipherable art
>lacks worldbuilding outside of Greed Island which had great worldbuilding in that arc alone.
>Fantastic fight choreography
>Tackles philosophical themes without feeling cheesy as fuck or shallow
>Incredible power system
>Poor fight choreography (post-EL)
>Mismanagement of character resources and development (post-Timeskip)
>Repetitive arc structure, although he has been changing it up recently
>Inventive power system (haki not included until he confirms the elemental aspect of it)
>Excellent use of reverse-foreshadowing to build the world
>Character designs are iconic
>Stories that can wrench out real tears
Thats true, though I doubt the lost books would ever be as large. The enormity of the Mahabharata is simply astounding. It's a shame its barely taught anywhere outside of India and Indonesia.
you guys havent read any shounens before if you think Big Mom is going down easily.
The same way Crocodile won twice before finally going down as our first Shichibukai, Big Mom is about to have arguably the best showing of anyone as our first taste of Yonkou's power.
>retards in this thread fall for the falseflag asshole who wants fanbase wars
lmao s m h
Yeah, she wont go down easily. Which is why its gonna take the combined abilities of Luffy, Capone, Brook, and Nami to take her down. Her role in the development of the plot is done.
>>Loki and Thor being brother
>Only in Marvel shitty version, Loki is closer to a adoptive brother of Odin
I have only viewed the shitty Marvel live action, but wasn't it the same there? With Loki being a Jötun(?)/Ice giant that was adopted?
Whitebeard took on armies of marines and exchanged blows with all three admirals, 5yo Big Mom trashed legendary giants in Elbaf, and you think Capone, Luffy & a few friends are the equivalent?
Whitebeard was the strongest character in the series at the time. Nami and Brook can neutralize her weather and soul powers. Also Luffy has been getting consistently stronger after every fight. He just beat a yonko commander and is due for a powerup. Capone can help house luffy to overcome his time limit for G4. We're 70-80% done with the manga and luffy still has to be able to take down yonko's one v 1, and will probably need to be far stronger than a "mere yonko" as said by Jimbe to become the pirate king. Its pointless to continue having BM in the story imo as the shitstorm after her defeat would be far more entertaining than having her there to be fought later. But we'll find out in a few weeks.
But he his supposed to have been raised like Thor brother and shit, wich is false. He his older, and much more of a dick, also everyone know he his a not from the same race, they just don't give too much of a shit because Odin say that he was part of them.
He his also much more of a dick, and generaly do thing just BECAUSE including killing Baldr, a fellow god. And to catch up on how much weird he his, you see that horse Odin is suppose to ride, the one with a ton of legs and all ? Well Loki is his MOTHER. Yeah, mother, he once turn into a female horse to lure the magical horse of a guy the gods make a deal with, because he was winning. But he wasn't fast enough to get away.
That's not confirmation she loses here.
And no she might not lose at all. She could devastate the shit out of everyone here and become an ally because of some silly reason like Sanji cooking.
It was confirmed when Oda OFFICIALLY started the Yonkou Saga in which order they will fall.
WCI (Big Mom) -> Reverie/Wano (Kaidou) -> ??? (Shanks) -> ??? (Blackbeard)
And the pic. Took a while to find it again.
That's still not a "confirmation she loses here"
Yes it's obvious she won't be the Pirate Queen or that Luffy won't surpass her but that's like saying "Zoro will be the best swordsman so it's confirmed he beats Mihawk" back in Sanji's arc.
I see. I am not very familiar with either Norse mythology or how Marvel butchered it.
But the stories about him becoming a mare and the one about him and Thor being disguise as women eating multiple whole animals always come up one way or another, so I know about those.
>making an argument based off something that happened early in the the story
You're reaching bro. Besides, isn't Biggu Mamu already the Queen of the pirates? There isn't a woman alive stronger than her.
>create a fanfic using a picture
Yeah there's no reason for Oda outright making an order for the Yonkou's right, retard? Us knowing about WCI -> Wano already reconfirms it, you shitposting tard.
It's a win for Luffy and co either way
He doesn't have to kill her and decimate her crew for her to fall.
Now to 'defeat' the Yonko is about the same as acquiring copies of the Road Poneglyphs in their possesion and thriving in the New World until they can locate the OP and go where it lays.
Oda doesn't have to show her physically eating caramel, he will probably imply it. Like what the spoilers are suggesting. And no, theres really not much of a difference. The scene with law is probably more graphic to a lot of people including myself.
A picture is not confirmation that >>157904427
She loses here. And don't give me that bullshit about her not being a threat. You know damn well he was indicating it's 100% "confirmed" she is beaten in combat here and now. Nothing about that shounen jump cover indicates she loses a fight right now.
>A picture is not confirmation
It's a confirmation that Luffy will effectively leave with the poneglyphs, sanji (+family) and jinbe. Therefore outright winning this conflict and never having to face Big Mom again, because he already overcame her. Stop trying to pretend your delusions matter here.
Everything about that cover implies that her story ends this arc. There won't be a rematch.
I don't think being graphic has much to do with it, Law's backstory is harsh sure, but it was illness that got the kids.
For example, if Blackbeard said that he raped women, killed them and fucked their headless bodies, even if you didn't see it happen, you'd agree that's way too bloody for One Piece.
Since it looks like the flashback also ends this week Oda might just leaves it as that, but maybe he'll go back to it shortly for a couple panels like he did with Whitebeard.
I didn't say specifically there would be a rematch. I am saying whatever happens we will have Big Mom demonstrating why the term Yonkou exists. Getting beat by this motley crew in a fight would diminish that and it won't happen
Luffy just struggled with cracker not to long ago. He isn't beating Big Mom. Her "defeat" won't be from fighting.
This is where the debate started>>157904043
I don't get how you guys move the goal posts from her getting "btfo" to Big Mom will eventually be defeated prior to the Kaidou arc.
>88% of OP readers are adults
There was an SBS where a kid asked Oda in which order the Strawhats joined, and they felt the need to print that. With that in mind, and seeing how Chopper was made cuter after the timeskip, I'll need some verification.
Not nailing you on the exact number, but I'd love to know the demographics either way.
The kids were ill, sure. But they got shot down and their lifeless bodies were shown, which is heavy even for a seinen. And Oda would never make Teach say that because it doesnt fit in with the story. BM eating her most beloved person in the world due to her inability to control her appetite does. And if its drawn implicity, it fits well into the story.
To be fair, he's elderly and probably has no fruit power to rely on, it makes sense he's past his prime although using one of the two ancients instead of a random does make it feel like an attempt at hyping BM too much
Luffy getting beaten up by her would set the story back by hundreds of chapter. This is basic story telling. No matter how he escapes, Luffy won't be defeated. And Capone and his entire plot there is reasons to assume that (even if he should fall) Big Mom won't survive this unharmed. No matter how Oda resolves this arc Luffy will be the winner and Big Mom the Loser. This is set in stone, deal with it.
>I don't get how you guys move the goal posts from her getting "btfo" to Big Mom will eventually be defeated prior to the Kaidou arc.
Because it's literally the same thing, you retard.
Of course I'm aware of that. But how many people have dropped it, and how many more have picked it up after it gained immense popularity?
I also vaguely recall Oda stating that he basically writes a kids' manga (more or less) still, even after all these years. But I have no source for this so you can disregard it if you want.
Or you know, maybe Big Mom eat the fruit that spawned near her
>Thinks theres only one way DF powers can be transferred.
>Thinking that fucking cannibalism is a viable way to get a DF power
>Luffy getting beaten up by her would set the story back by hundreds of chapter. This is basic story telling. No matter how he escapes, Luffy won't be defeated.
He was defeated by her army just a while ago. It didnt set anything back. People don't even remember it.
This is his very first clash with a Yonkou. Big mom was shown to defeat giants while being 5 years old. She has been in the new world longer than he has been a live. Nothing will be set back if she is still stronger than him. Hell everything should point to her still being stronger than him with his struggles against doffy and cracker.
>He was defeated by her army just a while ago. It didnt set anything back. People don't even remember it.
Because that's not the same thing, you retard. His plan is to take on the Yonkou and foremost Kaidou the beast. If he loses now to Big Mom in a direct confrontation and needs to be saved by gastino or some shit like that it would put him back into the sabaody/MF situation and effectively destroy all of his development. Learn to read.
>This is his very first clash with a Yonkou.
And his second is just around the corner, losing the first one would destroy the narrative.
>Hell everything should point to her still being stronger than him with his struggles against doffy and cracker.
Not even one (1) person said that that Luffy is stronger than Big Mom or will defeat her alone.
Luffy had to team up with Sanji to take down the Trial of Balls guy, yet he still BTFO enel. Luffy is near admiral level already and having him team up with people who can exploit BM's weaknesses is still plausible and fits in with the greater aspect of the story.
Oda's not gonna waste his time developing BM's character even more given that there's SO much more to cover. Who knows man, maybe you're right? But I doubt it given that its a shounen, and we have been primed for a fight. Brook v. BM was foreshadowing, and her immense powers in flashback was as well. As a storyteller Oda has no better time than now to initiate a direct confrontation. And given that Luffy is shown to be vastly inferior to BM, having him win in a planned out way would make sense as well as would surprise most readers.
Well Luffy has a fuckton of allies waiting for him in Wano maybe even more if Moria really appears so maybe they could pul this off seeing Kaido track record of losings
I dont think he was too serious in that fight desu. But even then people seem to make the mistake of making Zoros power comparable to that of Luffy. It seems that all of the Yonko can BTFO Mihawk, so Luffy fighting folks WAYYY above the caliber that Zoro will eventually end up fighting.
Basically the problem is that people overrate both Mihawk and Zoro.
I hope BM goes down this arc, but if she does, I don't think it'll be too straightforward. I just feel like BM has too much influence to not be defeated, she'd cause issues in the story.
All these fags arguing about whether Big Mom going down or not, yet no one mentioned the leaked information that has been rolling around here about the Fishman Island war after Wano with Big Mom as a main antagonist again.
I don't recall anyone providing counter-arguments against that leak, so it seems pretty solid to me that Big Mom is NOT going down this arc. The SH will probably have to escape after someone almost dying.
>There are people who unironically believe that Caesar's poison will kill Big Mom
>Tries to take luffy's soul
>"oh it's so strong the power of D., i can't contain it!"
>Gets weakened, Benge deals a final blow
>We won, time to have jinbe on our crew, and goodbye everyone else, good seeing you
>Tries to take luffy's soul
>"oh it's so strong the power of D., i can't contain it!"
Thank god you're not writting One Piece
>Moon arc: 6-9months
>BB: 1-1.5 years
One Piece has been running for 20 years. 70-80%done means we have about 10 years left.
All the arcs listed above are realistic in terms of how long they should take to complete and it comes out to about 7-10 years.
No. Lawfags cant get peace cause they are subservient to the celestial dragons. What lawfags want is order and the elimination of piracy. What they dont realize is that the entire system of the celestial dragons creates the conditions for piracy in the first place so they go after the symptoms instead of the problems. Gorosei and Marines are pretty much just bitches.
I think my real issue with Franky is that he's a complete comedy character now. Nigga used to be a mafia leader, why doesn't he show his really serious side when he obliterates an enemy from time to time.
Zou is just inbetween arc like Jaya or Long Ring Long Land, and WCI doesn't even feels like a major arc(already 1y1m long though). I think next major 2+ years arc will be Kaido.
Franky is and always was most boring strawhat.
>measuring character quality by strength
fuck off, sanji isn't as weak as the memes make you believe. he may not be as strong as zoro but he makes up for it as the chief strategist of the crew
Will this meme ever die. If anything Nami is more of a strategist than Sanji, because she actually orders the SH's around. Sanji just comes in clutch at times.
The crew makes strategies on the fly because everything always turn to shit quickly, Jinbe trying to plan anything would just slow them down. Also Luffy doesn't do strategy, ie Enies Lobby.
The meme is just there for Jinbe fans to make up some excuse of a role for him even though it's clearly shit.
Shounen writers don't have balls to make a major big bad die in a based way like this. They need to die in an epic fight by the hero hands because otherwise retards think it's "anticlimatic".
Can't repeat enough how much better it would be if Gin had succeed in killing Aizen.
Pre timeskip had the perfect balance of robot, human and being a joke character. Now he is just a straight up joke character robot. I wouldn't minded if he kept the gear he has on now as just an armor, but not his actual body he uses casually, Oda fucked up
>implying i dont love franky to shit
I hate saying this word, but blind fanboyism isn't the way to do things. Franky is still his good perfect self but Oda ruined his fucking design, there is no doubt on that and i'm not going to shut my eyes and scream loud to avoid seeing the problem.
Marguerite is also a moon of uranus...
>how much better it would be if Gin had succeed in killing Aizen
How would it better to kill off the most hyped, coolest big bad guy everyone loved in such a cheap anticlimatic way? Without even showing his main fight vs the main protag. Also what would happen to Gin? Make him return as hero? What a fan-biased shit writing. Make him take Aizen's role? Wouldn't make as much impact as Aizen, who was literally the best character in the series.
Even as makeup, i wouldn't leave those lips easily.
mihawk used to duel toe to toe against shanks. that single feat is enough to determine mihawk's power level. apart from that there are other facts such as marines + shichi = yonko. so mihawk was among the strongest people there.
>mihawk used to duel toe to toe against shanks. that single feat is enough to determine mihawk's power level
no it isn't fuck off
moria dueled toe to toe with kaidou
luffy dueled toe to toe with don krieg
His design pre-TS is fucking great, really underrated.
Post-TS Franky, while having grown on me a little bit, looks atrocious. Which was the point I guess, and really fits his character, but still, I really the old one.
>TOEI keeps using his shaved haircut
>TOEI keeps using the Sabaody Return/Fishman outfits
>still painful to this day
>Shanks says it's not like he was careless in the least
And Mihawk probably doesn't want to fight him in a straight up fencing/sword only duel. Maybe he'd lose to the one-armed Shanks if there were no rules .
>only the mc has progression the other characters just stagnate
mihawkfags are really the most delusional posters. they USED to SWORDfight before even the start of the series, shanks obviously became yonko level after that.
consedering the yonko are all more or less equal to each other if you think zoro is going to become as strong as whitebeard and big mom by the end of the series I don't know what to tell you. Not to mention the fact that it's ridiculous for the marines to have a yonko level character under them which in that case they shouldn't even have been worried about the WB war
From Volume 16
Obviously that was a long time ago so things might have changed.
Shanks, but I'll pretend I never thought that after he inevitably embarrasses himself by jobbing to Blackbeard.
If he has a Davy Back fight against Luffy instead everything's cool, though.
they were worried about the war with WB because of the collateral damage it could cause. and as it was seen he destroyed marineford but the top tier fighters were almost at full health (except akainu)
I play both desu.
Are you the carrot spammer from OPTC threads on /vg/?
>Whitebeard was the strongest character
we saw what two admiral level characters can do when they actually go all out. whitebeard wasn't even a real concern. he shit the bed every time he went against an admiral.
>go all out
They went all out with no regard to collateral damage. Whitebeard could literally split the world with his ability but had to worry about all his sons around him. If you put Whitebeard and an admiral on Punk Hazard there would be rubble and old man with a white mustache left.
>Impossible to kill
>Can't satisfy her hunger
>Kills things in one hit
>Moody and austistic
>If she gets hungry she kills literally everyone
>Even when she's happy she'll accidentally eat people
Jesus CHRIST, this bitch should have been thrown in the ocean.
Of course it is expected that Shanks would lose in a direct confrontation with Blackbeard, since BB is under multiple layers of plor armor. Actually, "muh fate".
But it's still stupid in a "all five Kage lose against Sasuke" kind of way, if you ask me.
In the end it would be more the disappointment of Luffy not defeating Shanks himself if this were to happen.
>In the end it would be more the disappointment of Luffy not defeating Shanks himself if this were to happen.
why do people want this so much
literally the most boring and anticlimatic thing you could wish for in the manga
>My cute giant loli waifu has been eaten by a fat slob.
Not giving the strawhat back goes against their promise and Luffy would never break it. Making him suddenly want to keep it and fuck over Shanks just because of that is beyond retarded.
he also promised to give back shanks hat, luffy never broke a promise so he is going to do just that
when he finds shanks grave
a fight/war with shanks would either be boring because they are friends and there would be no real danger or anticlimatic if there was actual danger, so he's going to die to someone else 100% probably blackbeard
Chopper, hate new designs and he is too scared like usopp and nami he can transform into a giant ffs have some guts. pre ts I loved him always.
Franky hate is bs. Remember when he asked luffy permission to help tontanas? senor pink fight aswell, if u dislike that part ur just a woman or pick a fancy gender but you can't call yourself a man.
Nami is worst by far, pre ts she was annoying but not 24/7 now its just fanservice and garbage, i'd take fucking rabbit Mctits over nami.
Sanji just looks weak with a few redeeming moments.
tie between Robin Chopper and Nami.
They are mostly sideline niggas who dont really fight anymore. Robin sort of gets an excuse since shes an assassin But Chopper's a monster, he needs to do something.
What are some autistic thoughts you had about OP?
>crocodile and sanji will never be friends
>games of thrones
i dont see normies series :(
>konpaku from bleach
i watched bleach and have no idea who arre yoy talking about
>BM eatin caramel
this kind of concept of the son eating the father is very ancient and known in a lot of cultures
>after all these years luffy... you did it, you brought me my strawhat. incredible, you truly are the pirate king
>alright there's no more use for this go lock it in a chest or something
I was in a part right i guess
but it was kinda obvius and isnt worth of al the theory
ZOO-WEE-MAMA you guys are desperate. Those old ass books ain't got nothing on the subspace emissary
Moreso, thanks to modernity. It took those works eons to travel the world and become known only amoung scholars. OP is already known by millions around the globe, and has been a massive influence on many people who have grown up with it.
Is there really no way Luffy could keep the hat? E.g. Shanks saying something like "alright Luffy, now take that hat to Raftel"?
Or he could pass it on to somebody else, like Roger and Shanks did?
it depends if it was the marines/gorosei that imprisoned him or the agents of the CDs
i'm kind of under the impression that the gorosei and marines, while having brutal methods, do genuinely want to advance towards peace and make the world a better place, as well as help humans get on with other races. however they can't ever make decisions that would impose any kind of restrictions on the CDs themselves, so even though they tried to outlaw slavery it still exists for the dragons, even though they want to get on with fishmen the dragons still fuck them over with impugnity etc
look, I won't deny those are impossible scenarios and I could very well be wrong and shanks and luffy have a friendly fight and then a party and all is fine and dandy right before going to raftel
I just find it unlikely to have 3 yonko arcs, and luffy to personally defeat all 4. I know we still have a long ways to go but come on. Shanks getting beaten by Blackbeard is the far simplest and cleanest option for the story to go and gives BB the final "hype" he needs to be big bad while adding drama and avoiding all sorts of unnecessary shit
I just really want that Davy Back Fight, man.
But I also don't think we need drama or more hype for BB. The best reason for that to happen is time, because there is lots of other stuff that needs to be addressed besides the Yonkou. And as far as anticlimactic things go, off-screening a Yonkou is what I'd call that. Maybe Oda will at least show the whole fight if it comes to that.