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Why is forced animation bullshit like this allowed? Do the animators

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Why is forced animation bullshit like this allowed? Do the animators not see how janky and unnatural this looks?
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>>157883237
why is her head so huge? i hate this kind of art style so much. she looks like a toddler
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>>157883237
Behold, true forced animation.
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>>157883457
Whoever made this should be hung
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>>157883457
>>157883237
Jesus Christ that's disgusting.
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>>157883237
Apart from how oddly far she says when she walks at the end, this doesn't seem very odd.
>>157883457
This just seems like it's trying to be funny. It's really not that bad.
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>>157883482
You mean hanged you faggot,
Unless you think his dick is big
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>>157883682
What the fuck.
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>>157883682
I didn't notice this but damn this looks scary.
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>>157883630
Hey shithead, hung IS the correct term. Stop with the shitty "hanged" meme.
Hung = noose tied around his neck, killing him.
Hanged = not a real word
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>>157883682
This has to be a fan project, I refuse to believe something that awful would come from a real studio.
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>>157883682
They didn't even bother to make Ace look like a girl, fucking rotoscoping should be a crime.
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Someone post that webm of the girl eating. I can't even remember the name of the stupid show.
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>>157883237
>>157883457
By forced animation do you mean animating in 2s and below? It probably looks jarring to most anime fans because a lot of anime is animated on 8s and 16s. So when they can afford to animate in 2s which tends to be the standard in western cartoons it looks "overdone".
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>>157883682
I'm not seeing it?
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>>157883237
>>157883457
>forced animation
I really really wish this meme would die
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>>157883682
>>157883698
>>157883787
>>157883817
Rotoscoping has aged really badly. Just watch some of Ralph Bakashi's animation and its hard to believe he was considered groundbreaking once.
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>>157883682
Did they hire 2 professional wrestlers to rotoscope this crap?
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>>157883955
No that's not what they meant.
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>>157884010
LOL
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>>157883457
There is only one thing that is wrong there, and it is the noodle people.
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>>157884076
The lack of weight and ridiculous flips and flops are fine, though.
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>>157883892
This one? It's from Luck & Logic.
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>>157883983
>meme
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>>157884143
That's the one.
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>>157883806
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/hang
>with object Kill (someone) by tying a rope attached from above around their neck and removing the support from beneath them (often used as a form of capital punishment)
‘he was hanged for murder’
‘she hanged herself in her cell’
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>>157884164
That's fucking awful.
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>>157884143
everytime i see this i cringe and im not one to cringe since my main source of entertainment is anime
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>>157883630
your the gay one for thinking about dicks. faggot
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>>157883682
this just seems low fps, I don't see whats poor about the animation
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>>157883682
>worst player gets worst animation
All is right in the world.
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>>157884143
There is literally nothing wrong with this.
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>>157883682
>Ping pong at trapcon.
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Posting Bones.
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>>157884205
It's rotoscopped, that´s poor by default
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>>157884010
While i think forced animation is not just a meme, i don't think this is it, i think this is just animated very stupidly with no sense of weight.
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>>157884003
Main problem with rotoscoping is they make a man play a teenage girl.
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>>157883237
I agree. Webm related should be the unironic standard of animation.
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>>157884426
Okay, this one is not even bad. You're just retarded.
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>>157884463
Now this is some quality non forced animation
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>muh forced animation
Kill yourselves.
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>>157884484
I didn't say it was bad. I just posted it because it's a great scene.
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>>157884556
You have no idea what forced animation even means, retard.
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>>157884556
Completely out of context with the thread and you didn't bother to provide context. You only have yourself to blame
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>>157884594
"Forced animation" doesn't mean anything. It's just a shitposting buzzword.
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Is forced animation another way to say bad animation now?
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>>157884738
It actually tends to refer to good animation
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>>157884594
Forced animation doesn't mean anything. It's a directing problem, not an animation problem.

>>157884619
This is a thread about animation and I am posting good animation here.
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Sansha Sanyou was great.
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>>157884760
>This is a thread about animation and I am posting good animation here.
So because this is a thread about cartoons we can just post Tom & Jerry then? Because that's your retarded logic.
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>>157884760
This is a thread about forced animation you fucking idiot.
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>>157884754
Okay, that's what I thought at first, but everyone seems to love using vague buzzwords.

I wished it was just called good animation.
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>you now remember the "forced" meme
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>>157884924
Forced deep is my favorite
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>>157884893
>>157884846
>>157884810
This is crap
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>>157883457
What the fuck is supposed to be wrong with this animation?
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>>157884984
It's forced
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>>157884901
The point of the meme was to shit on kyoani for animating non-action shows "too well"
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>>157884984
Autists get triggered if they see more than 4 keyframes per second.
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>>157884984
Well, the jumps and flips are all a bit weightless, but that anon is just bothered by a character moving a lot.
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>>157884205
That's not a girls's back. That's not a girl's wingspan. That's not a girl's center of gravity. That's not a girl's belly. And that's not an anime girl's head size. (note she loses like 4 inches in height and 40lbs of overall mass at the end)
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>animators go out of their way to add personality to character animation rather than the standard mouthflaps and still poses
>people call it forced animation

Are action scenes the only time you fags can accept abundant animation?
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>>157883237
I like it.
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>>157885031
Nice
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>>157884738
No, it describes unnatural and jarring animation like >>157884143 and >>157884158 where there is an unnecessarily high amount of frames and movement.
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>>157885233
Animator Expo, it's Robot on the Road I think.
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>>157885086
Nah, these were all 100% fine.
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There's a worrying amount of anime fans who are not interested in good animation.
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>>157884143
this will never not be funny
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>>157885031
I wish this short was better because Okiura animating titties should be A+ material.
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>>157885189
You sure picked some terrible examples.
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>>157885297
Most anime fans are bottom-feeders, if you haven't realized it by now.
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>>157883237
>Gee, this demon girl sure doesn't natural.

Well duh.
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>>157885189
It's like someone with talent not knowing when and how to apply such talent.
Not that I particularly mind it, I guess I consider it one of the appeals of animation to over accentuate motion, or the illusion of it. There is varied degrees of success though.

Joshiraku did it as a joke though, so there's that.
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>>157885297
No animation fan would watch anime for the animation considering how it's full of shortcuts. There's really not much to appreciate.
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>>157884810
ugh
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The only problem with it is that it sticks out because the rest of the episode is 98% completely still characters moving their mouths
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>>157885031
Was this just a trap?
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>>157885446
Read the meta data.
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>forced animation
When will this meme die?

There's nothing wrong with putting more work into scenes, the issue is poor animators not knowing what to do with higher budgets and whatever, so they make janky looking shit. That's not forced, that's just bad. It has nothing to do with how much they move or whether it's on 2's, it's all about poor application.

>>157885406
That's fucking retarded. As a big animation fan myself, 90% of the history of animation is animators finding ways around cost problems. Disney's noodle limbed characters like Mickey mouse? It was easier to replicate and draw for most animators, and drawing proper musculature was too hard. Iconic styles like Postcard memories and action smears come out of lack of budget.

Necessity drives invention, after all. Oftentimes the shortcuts are more entertaining, I'd argue that a show like Mononoke or Bakemonogatari or Ashita no Joe is far more visually interesting than Howl's Moving Castle.
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>>157883237
Don't talk to me or my daughter ever again you fucking piece of trash.
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>>157885436
Well, they have to be selective with where to allocate resources since anime production is full of constraints. It's better than consistently spreading out what little they have for bland mediocrity like modern western TV cartoons.
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>>157885515
Would you feel better if I changed the filename of my "forced animation" webms to "bad animation"? What difference would it make? Calling it forced might be a meme, but regardless you still know more or less what it means just by watching the webm.
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>>157885526
Ha ha, that's a funny pic. Can I save it?
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>>157884846
Are those different lesbian oral sex positions she's showing off?
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>>157885488
Thanks, have not thought of that. Nerawareta Gakuen if anyone else is interested.
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>>157885587
It's all yours, my friend.
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>>157885515
>that's not forced
By definition it is.
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>>157885579
Sure, do that, if that makes it easier for you to see you're just shitposting loudly.
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>Forced animation

Thank god western has no influence in the Anime industry at all,you guys are really fucking retarded
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>>157885579
Yes, people will continue to refer to "forced ____" as a stupid meme until you faggots stop pushing it for the nth time. Deal with it.
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>>157883457
What a dumb fucking movie that was.
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>>157885436
That's just sakuga. There's nothing wrong with sakuga.

The issue is shitty sakuga, not the premise of it.
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>>157883237
>background mob girls are literal statues
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>>157884885
>This thread is about a meme
How /a/ have fallen.
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>>157885297
I like good animation
Having a lot of movement doesn't automatically make a piece of animation high quality
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>>157885771
Who animated this scene? Great stuff. He deserves credit.
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>>157885336
Those two are the only examples of forced animation in this thread.
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>>157886008
This is called directing probably more so than animation. Animation is what is used by the director to show specific things.
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>>157883237
Every episode of Eromanga-Sensei is forced animation.
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>That retard run at the end
It's the best.
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>>157884810
This is really cute so i'ts okay.
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>>157886143
There's really nothing wrong with it. It's supposed to be over the top and exaggerated.
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>>157884893
>watches If... once.
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>>157883682
Reminds me of the [email protected] movie. I don't have the webm, but I know someone does.
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>>157885245
>white flag comes out immediately after getting wrecked by the rocks
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A classic
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>>157883682
>FLAT ASS
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>>157885661
They just don't like it when their 2D waifus move 10 times as much in the span of 30 seconds than they do in a day. It feels too unrealistic for them.
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>>157885031
That's kind of hot.
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>>157886553
You messed up that one doesn't look very good
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>>157885472
The robot traveler she invited into her home is a perv who likes to take pics.
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>>157885966
Nothing forced about this. The work put into a meal has meaning.
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>>157886128
>Reads from left to right
Riiight....
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>>157887057
Just goes to show robots are not to be trusted.
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>>157883682
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>>157887213
>people have this abomination as a waifu
some people have the worst taste
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>>157883237
You clearly don't get her character then. That haughty baka swagger is very fitting for her.
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>forced animation
Posting in an IRC thread.
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>>157883457
Those fucking jumps are awful
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>>157883237
i dont understand

satania is genki baka. that "animation" fits her
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>>157883682
They look like guys wearing those flat paper face masks.
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>>157883237

>too stupid to understand that this is part of her character
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>>157886413
That scene got rotoscoped because the original animation was lost close to the final release. This is why it's the only fucking scene in the movie that uses rotoscoping.
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>>157884158
That was the whole point of the scene. It's a joke, unlike >>157884143 or >>157883457.
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>>157887896
>the original animation was lost
How the fuck does that happen?
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Doga Kobo is the second best Japanese animation studio behind KyoAni.
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>>157888144
KyoAni isn't even top 10. Name 2 good KyoAnime to air in the past 7 years you cannot do it.
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>>157888256
Back to back /a/ AOTS's Hibike Euphonium and Maid Dragon.
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>>157888290
Neither will be AotS once you filter out those who watch less than 5 anime a season.
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>>157888336
Nowadays I watch less than 5 and I believe recent KA shows are rancid shit.
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>>157888336
Literally backwards. The more anime one watches, the more likely one is to appreciate KyoAni. "Moe" is the highest powerlevel "genre," by far.
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It's supposed to be cute
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>>157888290
>>157888384

this
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>>157888384
Kyoanusshit is literally one step below Naruto and Bleach normalfaggotry.
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>>157888384
But KyoAni fans are most likely to be tards from MAL and other sites.
But the original Gaiafags were KyoAni fans
But according to polls it's not backwards
But very often you see anons claiming Lucky Star or K-On to be their first anime and their favorite
But none of their recent shows have been very moe.
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>>157884143
Why must DogaKobo do this?

Although I honestly think the DogaKobo in the OP is fine.
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>>157887841
Leave them alone. They'll never understand Satania's magnificence.
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>>157883682
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>>157888621
>the snapping
Every time.
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>>157888640
That was some good shit, the soundtrack went HAM
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>>157888499
>>157888517
http://www.strawpoll.me/12888117/r
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>>157888714
>KyoAni haters eternally BTFO.
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People who don't understand the concept of forced animation shouldn't be allowed to watch anime at all.
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>>157888714
>>157888795
HOW WILL THEY EVER RECOVER
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>>157888714
>Somehow they forgot to include fucking Sunrise
This only further proves KyoAni posters are literally retarded.
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>>157888852
Sunrise consists of too many studios. It would be a shitshow.
Also
>implying the poll was made by a KyoAnifag
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>>157888852
Sunrise would only win on /m/ and you know it.
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>>157888905
100% of studio war shitposting is by either KyoAni, Gainax, or Trigger fans.
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Original anime
Good story>good animation

Anime adaptation
Good animation>story
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>>157888954
He says, as he helps to perpetuate studio war shitposting
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>>157889013
S-Shut up
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>>157888980
>2017
>being a QUALITY apologist
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>>157888911
They can easily win on the fujo/gay boards too and of course they'd win on Code Ge/a/ss if you filtered out all the underage crossboarders.
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>>157883237
How is this "forced animation"?
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>>157885132
Yeah, this thread is cancer.
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>>157889250
It's not, forced animation doesn't exist. It's either good or bad
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>>157889293
forced animation = anything that had effort put into it
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>>157888640
>munemune's mune animation
Wew
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>>157889413
Here's a question, why was this animated?

Yes it's a beautiful masterwork of craft and skill, but in what way did the medium help the storytelling? Everything could have been acted out instead and shot live action. The mimicry of chromatic aberration in lenses just shows how desperate it was trying to be a real film anyway.

Try to answer something other than just "2D>3D"
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>>157890043
Is this pasta
That's the only explanation I can think of for how stupid a post this is
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>>157888290
>Maid Dragon
>AOTS
Maybe for normalfags.
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>>157890077
He's kinda right. Although I feel this webm would be better with the dialogues, since it'd work with the hands moving to create a what the hell mood for the watcher.
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>>157889413
Reminder that this is Homura fantasizing about holding hands with Madoka
See Luminous for reference
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>>157890146
Sometimes the director tells you to do things and you do them.
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>>157890146
I mean if you want an example of something that doesn't benefit from being animated, Madoka (including Rebellion) is certainly not that.
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>>157888550
Took time to get used to it, but the show was great and I'd rather have this animation than CGI shit everywhere.
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>>157890220
True, even the symbolism was mostly on point, making sense, not being too intrusive or too hard to grasp.
But more than Shaft gimmicks, I think the soundtrack and Ume's designs did most of the job.
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>>157890289
>I'd rather have good animation than CGI shit
wow you don't say
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>>157888550
Why does everyone run so weird?
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>>157886539
This might be only example in this thread that might be forced animation. I like you anon.
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>>157890106
>lesbian loli twister
>normalfags
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>>157886539
Wow, this is really good animation. Expression is captured perfectly. In fact, this is probably a perfect example of really good animation.
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How about I force you to animate my dick
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>>157890559
Doesn't fit the tone of the scene or the usual animation style. And the expression is slightly exagerated, Nanoha blinks like three fucking times.
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>>157890842
It's a shame forced backgrounds ruin this otherwise good animation.
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>>157890842
What's wrong with this?
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>157890885
I swear to god people on /a/ play a game out of attempting to make the stupidest possible fucking post that'll still draw a (You).
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>>157890842
This was a really good shot with the rotating camera. Animation is quite simple.
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>>157891023
Go back to >>>/b/ retard nobody cares about yous except the most braindead of autists.
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>>157890842
This looks legitimately good
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>>157890445
She must really need to pee.
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>all shounenshit and moeshit
really makes you think isn't ?
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>>157891425
That's what the current generation of good animators want to draw. Too bad.
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>>157891485
more like what pathetic otakus want to see.
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>>157884426
That's fucking sick. Every goddamn time I re-watch Battlefront, That scene sends chills down my spine.
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>>157883406
>Good or bad animation = forced animation

Do the world a favor and rid the world of your pathetic misinformed lives.

Some of you are correct though.
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>>157883406
>>157891606
Didn't mean to quote you, anon.
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>>157891485
Are you implying good animators refuse to work on projects they personally don't enjoy?
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>>157883237
why is nobody calling out the characters not moving at all in the background, or the girl in the fore fore ground doing same?
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>>157891781
Everyone's frozen in awe by Satania's magnificence
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Anime shouldn't even be animated. All anime should be a power point presentation
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>>157891781
Maybe those characters don't want to talk to that girl who is obviously trying too hard?
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>>157891781
If you had the background characters moving as well, that would be really forced animation. Only series I've seen do that is Handshakers.
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>>157891820
Once again SHAFT comes out on top.
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>>157883237
>not having lifeless classmates

sounds like you're missing out anon
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>>157891781
Someone did call that out. Stop making forced posts and read the thread.
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