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ITT: Anime tropes you would like to see more often. >tsundere

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ITT: Anime tropes you would like to see more often.

>tsundere gets mad and beats MC
>she's too weak to actually hurt him
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>MC isn't a self-insert character
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>worst girl doesn't win
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Strong country boys.They were a lot more common in the 70s and 80s. Shichika was a nice example of a modern one.
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>>157803589
I'm pretty sure that the 90% of time the girl actually doesn't hurt anyone, is only for comedic purposes.
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>>157804367
Sakura from Naruto alone made it unbearable
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>>157804337
How about strong tanned country girls?
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>character with average human strength beats a planet buster using solely their wits
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>>157803589
is that anime good?
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>>157804793
If you don't mind episodes with 50 minutes of pure talking and only 1 or 2 of action, sure.

Seriously, this anime is basically a huge middle finger to everyone that hates dialogue in excess in action series.
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>>157803693
The only ones i can think of are Guts and Kenshiro,name the others if you don't mind
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>comic relief character is actually OP as fuck and hides his true powerlevel
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>>157803589
>Final boss is the MC
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>>157805039
Spike Spiegel, Shinji Ikari, Madoka, Chaika
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>>157803589
>MC is not the pinnacle of mental health
>Love interest confesses to MC and they get together before the ending
>self sacrifice
>asshole villain gets tortured before he dies
>demons are not the reluctant good guys but are actually bad
>angels are stronger than demons
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>>157805256
>implying that the average Japanese anime watch isn't just a fat shinji
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>>157805340
I highly doubt that they have THAT many mental issues, mostly it's just autism.
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>>157805365
I don't know man some of those herbivore types seem really fucked in the head
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>>157805510
Meh, two nukes weren't enough
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>>157805248
But Yu-Gi-Oh Arc-V was terrible.
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>>157803589
cheerio
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>>157805566
The last season of Shakugan no Shana was fucking mint tho
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I love when they make fun of edgy characters.
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>>157805256
Holy fuck you can try to defend Shinji anyway you want but nobody will ever convince me that he isn't a self-insert.
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>>157805743
It's just me. I can't self-insert as Shinji, or most other MCs. But hey, what do I know, I'm a fucking normalfag.
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>>157805838
Well, being a complete failure of a person with no redeeming traits that lives with 2 hot chicks and gets to pilot a giant robot looks pretty self-insert for me.
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>>157805838
Same here, I'm just too Intelligent, Nihilistic and have a Wicked Sense of Humor
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>>157805908
It kinda makes sense if you put it this way. I just find it wierd that anyone would want self-insert as Shinji. The guy is a fucking psychotic loser.
>>157805989
God for you
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>>157806282
Giving an alpha male life to a beta male character is the most common form of self-insert, just look at those harem MC's that are just average dudes at best but are always making all girls of the show wet their panties.
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>>157806379
I don't watch harem anime, my man. Hell, I don't watch a lot of anime at all really.
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>MC is a asshole to women
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>>157807712
really roasts my vagina
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>the jobber that got his ass kicked by the MC in the first episode is the final boss
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>>157804425
She was the worst girl in that show so makes sense.

>>157804734
How would someone reasonably accomplish this without some deus ex machina bullshit?
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>>157806282
>I just find it wierd that anyone would want self-insert as Shinji.
>The guy is a fucking psychotic loser.
why are you here
why am i still here
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>>157804793
yes
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>>157805329
>angels are stronger than demons
hasn't that ways been the case?
>>157805365
shinji doesnt have many issues but the one he does have is a pretty fucking big one for humans are creatures of communication
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>>157808686
Only when the angels are true to their biblical nature. You know, the one where they're horrifying inhuman monsters with terrible power. Where merely looking at them will drive you insane or burn your eyes from your head.

The rest of the time it's just good beats low level evil guys kind of stuff.
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>>157808968
I thought that devil lawyer one did it pretty great. and is that really how they're described? I know they're supposed to be hammers of god bringing divine wrath on the wicked but never heard looking at one would drive you insane, what are they cthulu?
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>>157808686
He has repressed memories and school shooter anger.
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>>157808968
You know angels do make really good villains because they're just so fucking intimidating without even being god-level, all glowing and powerful and majestic. I'm not even trying to be edgy, they just make for really cool villains. Having them be the good guys would make it too easy on the protagonists.
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>The always calm & happy-go-lucky character gets mad.
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>>157809091
It was made already
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>>157809052
>repressed memories
re you talking about the manga?
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>>157809040
Cthulu is just generic as fuck wierd monster bullshit that was trite even in it's day.

Look up what the angels are actually
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>>157803589
>best girl winning
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>>157803589
Please don't remind me of this. I'm still upset.
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>>157803589
>Boss rush before the final boss
>"Leave this to me, you go on ahead"
>"Your opponent is me"
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>>157805039
I dare you to find me one person who self inserts as Kiritsugu
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>>157809259
No.
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>>157809407
it better happen with her
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>>157805039
Watch more anime, most aren't actually self-inserts.
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>>157805248
reminds me of Ten, it wasn't the very last match (the one Akagi had with Soga), but that specific round had the antagonist attempting to guess MC's wait (which is also not shown to the reader), and the manga followed the antagonist's perspective.
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>>157803589
>tsundere girl is violent towards the mostly ambivolous mc/dude she's soaking her pantsu over
>He either laughs at her actual attempts to hurt him or show genuine concern when she hurts herself while trying to hurt him. Like she thinks she breaks her hand after punching him in the chin.
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>>157808502
>How would someone reasonably accomplish this without some deus ex machina bullshit?
I was going to mention Squealer among other characters but then I remembered he actually fucking died.
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>>157808502
That's why most of Batman fights against non-street level villains are forced as hell
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>cool handsome villain gets both his testicles irreparably damaged in battle
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>>157803589
>"If you kill him,you'll end up just like him"
>MC frozes for a second
>''Bullshit"
>kills the asshole villain anyway
Not trying to be edgy here,but at least let those fuckers get what they deserve
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>>157811590
Think the closest thing there is to this is games where you have max talk skill and then you talk to the final boss and reveal why their plans won't work/why they should stop their evil plan thing/etc. Don't know of any anime examples.
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>>157811664
Ixion Saga?
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>>157803589
At least post the gif.
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>>157811652
>That's why most of Batman fights against non-street level villains are forced as hell
Not really, it's not like the regular super powered types are immune to having shit thrown at them or punched.

Against shit like Darkseid, Doomsday, other villains Superman would have trouble dealing with by virtue of their resilience to most standard attacks, yeah you have a point.
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>>157811752
>Punching a sword
What did she think would happen? She's lucky she didn't cut her hand off.
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>>157811695
>Frozes
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>>157811695
The only time I saw something like this was in the Deadpool movie
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>>157811713
No no no, anything but talk no jutsu.
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>>157812036
To be fair in most animes that do that that's only after a fight where they're too tired to argue back after losing. I mean more of a logic fueled debate than "DON'T KILL PEOPLE IT'S WRONG, I'LL DEFEAT YOU IN MONOPOLY TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND" anime arguments.
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>>157812017
And that was the only time it was done well. Colossus' speech was executed decently if a little hokey and superheroic, but Deadpool just doesn't work that way.
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>>157803589
delinquent MCs
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>>157812205
Yeah but just because someone can logically explain something to me doesn't mean I agree with them or intend to change my plans. Like, it's always the MC that is steadfast in his ideals and never wavers, but villains are always so weak to the slightest argument.
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>>157811695
This fucking manga.
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>>157803589
Glad I'm not the only one who finds the inverse of this infuriating.
>mc is basically god level by end of series, performed over a dozen historical feats
>no one has a clue who they are, still fucking treated like a rookie and jobbing to every new arc boss
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>>157808502
A clever trap or anything that takes advantage of their weaknesses in a way that's foreshadowed well?

>>157808502
Squealer is actually a really good example of doing this well, it would have made total sense if he had won, and he was the true hero of SSY.
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>>157803589
>Anthrophobic tsundere girl is miserable and unpopular
Why do these types of characters always seem to be popular student council presidents and such? At last there's one show that did it right.

>>157811695
Check out Gun X Sword. The only anime I've seen that doesn't portray that "going to any lengths to get revenge" type of MC in a negative light.
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Alliances of convenience
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>>157812036
Disregarding that,does doing this only AFTER the MC defeats the villain by actual strength,strategy or skill(not by power of fucking friendship,massive power boost just because "i won't give up,you will never defeat me" crap,jesus fucking christ i've had enough of that horrendous shitpile) can still be considered good? Somehow i still think there's still some appeal on seeing a villain change his ways,but not completely allying himself with the MC
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>Enemy loses
>you will never defeat my final form
>attempts to enter final form
>shits pants and passes out instead
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>>157811695
I like when MC talks reason to the antagonist and the antagonist gets buttmad for being proven wrong.
The only thing that comes up in mind now is One Punch Man though.
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>>157812455
>>157811695

Finally a chance to post this
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>>157805039
Just from this season we have Favaro (though I guess he's not the MC, but I guess Nina can be considered not a self-insert), and Yasaburo from Uchouten Kazoku.
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>*teleports behind you*
>character getting teleported behind immediately swings around and grabs the teleporter by the neck and procedes to kick his shit in
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>character that always has his eyes closed opens them and gets serious
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>>157812812
>hero shows enemy mercy
>enemy takes advantage of the situation and does a surprise attack
>hero obliterates the attacking enemy without hesitation
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>>157813085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKOTtx-uOEk
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>MC and his female rival are attracted to each other but don't want to admit it
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>Final boss is literally unbeatable
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>comic relief character that's the verbal punching bag of the show
>very slight hints that there's more to their character than meets the eye
>final story arc and comic relief character gets serious
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>>157813379
>comic relief character that's the verbal punching bag of the show
>very slight hints that there's more to their character than meets the eye
>final story arc and comic relief character does nothing and you were imagining things
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>>157809492
I tried but couldn't.

How can someone cheat on his wife with a girl that's only half as attractive?

That and I'm not a hitman.
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> The comic relief character becomes a insane bad guy later in the story.
>The MC has a healthy sexual life with the woman he loves.
> Harem mangakas and LN writters should do multiple endings with the other girls.
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Can't believe how many of these is done by Dragon Ball
>>157803589
Launch shooting Goku and him just knocking her out with a kick.
Bulma whenever she hits anyone.
>>157803693
I don't think Goku is a self insert.
>>157805329
Not all but Goku is definitely not mentally sound, Angels are extremely strong, Demons are completely bad.
>>157805655
They made fun of Black and Zamasu a lot.
>>157812812
Happened to Goku against Black. >>157813085
Goku vs Freeza.
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>>157809367
Some of them are described as weird fucks, but some others look pretty.
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>>157812861
Best.
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>characters that act and speak like real humans instead of caricatures
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>>157814913
This.
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>>157812861
>Close-eyed side character/MC's friend or sidekick suddenly becomes serious
>Does not say usual shit such as "you made me mad,now you're gonna get fucked, " i will never forgive you: etc"
>but instead says something normal but in a cold,dead serious tone then opens eyes
>atmosphere then becomes 10x tense as fuck
>shit goes down
>obliterates the shit out of evil minions and the big boss
>after battle,turns around to look at MC and co then gives off a faint smile
>but then everyone just stares at him in awe
I doubt this will happen in any anime,but goddamn
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> harem
> one of them is a tsundere
> procede as usual, with the tsundere taking the lead
> suddenly in one episode the tsundere get kiddnaped by the main villain
> ohshit.jpg
> he tights her up, strapping her into a complicated torture device
> mc infiltrates the villain's hiddeout
> he gets to where the tsundere is
> "just as i planed mc-kun" as he presses a button
> a giant rock gets dropped into the tsundere's head
> blood is everywhere, and only mangled stump remains where the head used to be
> mc gets with cute chilhood friend
> the end
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>>157805100
This isn't a rare trope.
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>>157803589
>harem gets an ending
I need closure damn it
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>>157814359
That's just it.
They don't, all of the pretty angels are bullshit!
The thing about how things are winged? They mean they fly, or have some kind of propulsion.
None of the angels described in the bible are supposed to have bird wings or something.

Even the fire and brimstone version of hell is total bullshit!

They dont' even describe the devil. Most description are just asshole dudes that are evil.
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>>157816936
the bible alone is gay anyway. you need to include the bible expanded universe books for it to have good lore.
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>>157816936
Nah, supposedly the angels don't have a physical body but appear to humans as men(for example the ones who visited Abraham). Also in the book of Ezekiel the Cherubim are described as ugly fucks, but in other cases they are shiny beings whom people fear but they are not explicitly ugly. And there are a lot of other "religions" mixed that expand on this.
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>>157803589
Literally Shichika in general
>starts as a blank self insert character
>as the story unfolds he starts to show more emotion and understanding
>when something important from him gets taken away he snaps and awakes his true potential
>mfw bahasa palsu jazz mix
>mfw ''I came here to die''
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>>157807712
even better
>women actually don't find this attractive and dislike him for it
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>>157803589
>ITT: Anime tropes you would like to see more often.

Sure.

>A fantasy world with a dungeon-crawling based economy that DOESN'T have retarded "video game" mechanics and is more based on the actual reality of the situation of the world.

>Power Levels/bounties do not accurately reflect how strong or powerful someone is and even a seemingly weak individual is capable of killing a "powerful" person if they underestimate them.

>The MC doesn't let themselves get hit for the sake of physical comedy.
>The MC isn't an autist and actually possess social skills, awareness, and actually has some shred of self confidence without being "cocky".

>Trap/femboy/shemale/PC-term 'potential' love interest that isn't played as a joke. (I've seen this done ONCE.)

>The gay-sexual-tension-beautiful-boys actually kiss/there's actual romance and it isn't all implied fujoshit. (I HAVEN'T seen this done.)

>Homosexual/Transgender character isn't just played as a 'joke' character.

>None of the female characters are basically adult children/female autists who shout, scream constantly, and misunderstand situations because >funny joke.

>The 'bad guy' isn't a psychopath. They actually have good reasons for doing what they're doing and don't take any satisfaction in doing evil deeds and will avoid doing so if possible.
>The bad guy is objectively just as nice to his minions as the MC is to his friends/allies. Doesn't needlessly harm, kill, etc his allies- will even police his own baddies if they're crazy.

>>>The english dub isn't by fucking funimation and their same 5 voice actors.
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>>157813616
pic unrelated obviously
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>>157816032
name at least five (5, V, viisi, fem, пять) animes
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>my favorite animes
>getting a season two
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>>157805100
Beerus from DB?
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>>157817525
Fuck you, the franchise took a fucking plummet when the Catholics took over writing.

Go Mormon or go home.
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>>157819217
>>A fantasy world with a dungeon-crawling based economy that DOESN'T have retarded "video game" mechanics and is more based on the actual reality of the situation of the world.

Dungeon Meshi and Made in Abyss come to mind when I hear this.
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>>157813666
He cheated on her because he knew he was going to cross all bounds and wanted to lower his opinion of himself right off the bat.
You are one bizarre being if you manage to self insert into that regardless.
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>>157822028
>Made in Abyss

This looks really fucking good, thank you so much Anon.

>Dungeon Meshi

This was the main example I was thinking of (a long with a host of other OVA animes from the late 80's to early 90's that were based off of Dnd campaigns and not fucking video games.)
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MC Actually tries to hit on girls and stops being a fucking faggot
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>>157804793
I recently finished it. It was alright because it released too much info without build up in last 2 eps. The art and music was very nice though.
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>>157818633
Now you are just asking for the impossible anon.

>>157805908
Dawg. Dawg. This is retarded. It's a failure of a person with a crazy chick who he can't understand, an emotionless robot, and a women with more daddy issues then your local prostitutes. Also piloting the robot isn't a good thing because he keeps getting screwed over by doing it. Shinj's life blew I can't imagine anyone who would self-insert themselves into his hellish life.
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>>157803589
>ITT: Anime tropes you would like to see more often.
No tsundere within the cast. It's a terrible character type, even moreso when characters are just tsundere for the sake of covering all popular bases too.
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>>157804503
Stop bringing up my ex, /a/.
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>>157804906
Why does everyone in my generation have ADHD?
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>>157811695
This is what I would so like to see more of since it's correct. If you kill a murderer you have also killes. But the reason is different. He killed for pleasure. You killed to protect others from him. NOT THE SAME.
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>>157823814
Theres a shitton of anime like that. So its more you wanting anime with tsunderes in it to not exist instead of wanting more anime with no tsundere characters because that already happens on a regular basis. Dumb tsundere hater.
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>>157823894
It makes more sense in the context it was used first in. Mostly police dramas where murdering the murderer before trial would make the policeman or private eye a murderer if the person is helpless.

Then people started extrapolating this to superhero and other genres where it makes no sense because the only person who can do shit to the villains is the heroes. So if they don't no one will.
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>>157823814
I want the character type to die out altogether, yes. It's not funny when done comedically and it's not endearing when done seriously.
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>>157823814
Not happening, it's the ultimate in wish-fulfillment
>you know that chick who constantly hates on you? She actually secretly loves you!
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>>157819217
>A fantasy world with a dungeon-crawling based economy that DOESN'T have retarded "video game" mechanics and is more based on the actual reality of the situation of the world.

I don't get why this shit is so fucking prevalent. Seriously.
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>>157823814
>>157824012
>>157824042
Samefag
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>>157823945
>Theres a shitton of anime like that
Did I say there wasn't? Most of what people are saying here have lots of examples where what they're complaining about isn't present, I personally just want even less of it.
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>>157824066
Well thats literally retarded since you can just not watch those anime. This word is overused nowadays, but youre actually autistic.
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>>157824012
I always find it hilarious that most of the major starters of the Tsundere craze were actually hilariously mild about it.
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>>157824106
>but youre actually autistic
You're the only one here getting anal about me having an opinion different to yours. I can like and dislike whatever I want.
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>>157823814
It's not as popular as it used to be to be fair. Or atleast it's at the point where it's pointed out in-story that it's dumb more often anyway.
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>>157824229
Theres a difference between not liking something and actively wishing it didn't exist even though you have no intention to watch it in the first place. Heres another protip, just because you say "w-well its m-muh opinion" doesnt mean its not a stupid, autistic opinion that you should be mocked for.
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>>157824294
ma-ha did nothing wrong
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>>157824275
>actively wishing it didn't exist even though you have no intention to watch it in the first place
All I said was that I don't want shows with tsunderes in the cast, calm down sperg. There are plenty of shows around that I would've liked more but for there being a tsundere shoved at the forefront of it, I'd like less of that. There is a case of tsundere characters being present just because it's a popular character type too which I could do without, if it has to be there then have a good plot for it atleast.
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>>157805655
Lotton ze Wizzard got btfo pretty hard in BL s2
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>>157819217
>>A fantasy world with a dungeon-crawling based economy that DOESN'T have retarded "video game" mechanics and is more based on the actual reality of the situation of the world.

Goblin Slayer
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>>157824334
Im perfectly calm, Im just informing you that your posts are autistic nonsense and I wouldn't be surprised if youve seen maybe 50 anime max. With the way you write, you also sound like ESL trash. Anime with tsundere characters 'shoved at the forefront' are subtle about their tropes, and they arent exactly dominating the market. So i'll repeat myself, what makes you autistic is wanting less of something that you basically have to seek out in the first place. Youre acting as if every anime you watch has some random tsundere gag thrown in for no reason. That may very well be the case, but again that only shows how little anime you watch instead of showing how prevalent the tsundere trope is.
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>>157824514
>Youre acting as if every anime you watch has some random tsundere gag thrown in for no reason
I'm not acting as if this is the case? I dislike a thing that happens to be relatively popular (despite what you're incorrectly saying about it not being so, it's one of the most popular archtypes for a heroine) and said that I'd like for there to be less of it. That's all. Also don't call someone an ESL and then have worse grammar and punctuation than that person you dummy.

Heck why are you replying to me and not all the people asking for fewer spineless MCs anyway, what I'm saying applies doubly to that if anything.
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>>157824654
What does 'relatively popular' mean? What genres are you watching that tsunderes are ruining for you? I dont understand please explain. Its like if I complain about shounenshit being 'relatively popular' and that I want to see less of it. But instead I just dont watch shounenshit because its not interesting to me. If you want 'good plot' then why are you watching harems and battle shounens? If you want there to 'be less' then just dont watch shit with tsunderes as a a main character.
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>>157805039
>Guts
>not a self insert for edgy losers

that's the entire appeal of berserk
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Walls of text: the thread.
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>>157824721
who would self insert into getting raped?
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>>157824746
Women.
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>>157824754
people who want justification for their misanthropy
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>>157824485
The Guild and potion system is explicitly fantasy RPG mechanics, as is the MP system and the "class clothing".
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>>157824850
you don't need to look that hard to see that humans are disgusting creatures
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>>157803589
The one where the best girl dies in the second last episode
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>>157805329
>>self sacrifice
Fuck this. Especially when there is
>Love interest confesses to MC and they get together before the ending
in the same fucking series. You build your future, you are a step away from happy days, shit is over - and here comes massive fuck you and you die. What is that even about?
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>>157819217
>A fantasy world with a dungeon-crawling based economy that DOESN'T have retarded "video game" mechanics and is more based on the actual reality of the situation of the world.
>Power Levels/bounties do not accurately reflect how strong or powerful someone is and even a seemingly weak individual is capable of killing a "powerful" person if they underestimate them.
>The MC isn't an autist and actually possess social skills, awareness, and actually has some shred of self confidence without being "cocky".
>>The bad guy is objectively just as nice to his minions as the MC is to his friends/allies. Doesn't needlessly harm, kill, etc his allies- will even police his own baddies if they're crazy.
grimgar?

fuck off with all your laser-guided-bomb-target tumblr shit though
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>>157811695
>"If you kill him,you'll end up just like him"
>"You're right"
>Walks away
>Villain smirks, gets up and tries to attack mc from behind
>MC instantly kills villain and says something cool
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>>157803589
>Everyone teaming up against the final boss.

One on one's are fine, but a massive team up beyond the main cast is lovely too. Has to be set up well to work though.
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>face overwhelming odds
>win with the power of friendship
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>When the despair is at its highest
>Hero swoops in at the last second
I love that shit so much. Just the look of terror on people, knowing they have to accept death and then BAM, hero appears to save the day.

I think I got my fetish from the zeruel fight in evangelion
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>>157825334
>The MC isn't an autist and actually possess social skills, awareness, and actually has some shred of self confidence without being "cocky".
>grimgar
Literally what. Not only he is turbo-autistic not romancing Marry, but he is on a constant butthurt "am I a good leader?". Where did you find self-confidence?
Also no bad guys in Grimgar, it is more like PvE.
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>>157805039
Hei from Darker Than Black; Shirou from Fate/Stay Night (if you understand him and the type of person (if that term even applies) he is, if you don't then he's a SI to the max); Onizuka from GTO; Shiki from Kara no Kyoukai; the last keeps going on.

If you want good MCs then look for series which have a focus on character development and narrative first and foremost. That or thing's which are critically acclaimed, as they tend to tick this box, amongst many others.
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>>157804793
At first glance it looks like some kind of experimental arthouse thing (given the atypical episode lengths and art style) but in reality it's a lot more down to earth and accessible as far as anime go.
It takes a little while to adjust to its slower pace but overall I think most people would enjoy it on some level so long as they don't have ADHD.
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>>157824721
>but then Guts gets new friends and they go on magical adventures!
exactly when I stopped self inserting myself
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>>157805256
I thought part of Shinji's purpose was as a fuck you to the people that always try to self-insert as MCs.
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>Final arc of the series begins
>Big showdown with everyone gathering for the final battle
>Main protagonist dies against the first boss and doesn't come back
>Long time main antagonist ultimately wins and gets everything they want
>Antagonist never pays for any of her crimes by shoving all responsibility onto the final boss

Was one hell of a development then and even now.
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>>157818633
This.
>>157819217
>The 'bad guy' isn't a psychopath. They actually have good reasons for doing what they're doing and don't take any satisfaction in doing evil deeds and will avoid doing so if possible.
>The bad guy is objectively just as nice to his minions as the MC is to his friends/allies. Doesn't needlessly harm, kill, etc his allies- will even police his own baddies if they're crazy.
This.
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