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What was your honest opinion on it?
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>>157792583
notenoughdisabledjokes/10
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>>157792583
Best movie of 2017. Plain and simple. Hollywoodfags btfo
Kimi no na wa fags btfo (nah, it's a good movie, but not as good as KnK)
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>>157792583
The manga was better.
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>>157793534
this
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Forced drama.
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>>157793298
Jesus fuck that image. I'm keking and feeling bad at the same time.
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>>157793534
>Kimi no Na wa fags BTFO
Keep telling yourself that faggot.
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Do not (NOT) breed with defective genes.
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It was a good movie but I felt that it would've been much better if it was a seasonal show.
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you can call me reddit, i genuinely enjoyed all of it. felt very wholesome at the end.
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>>157794245
I don't think it would benefit from episodic format.
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Victim Blaming - The Movie.
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>>157792583
That Kimi no Na Was was better animated and directed movie and Kyoanus shills here should accept that.
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I thought it was great, yea they cut some stuff out like the making movie stuff, I'm actually ok with it since they were able to work around it and I think it came out better. Only thing that bothers me is they changed slight minor events, but overall I think the movie did the manga justice.
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>>157793802
Kono Sekai no Katasumi ni won 34 awards
Kimi no Na wa won 12 awards
Koe no Katachi won 4 wards
The only reason why KSK won so many awards was because of its historical setting. KnNw won those awards just for being a heavily promoted Shinkai films.
KnK didn't win any awards because Japan doesn't care about deaf people. They're insenstitive as fuck in regards to disabled people in general.
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>>157794625
This is the absolute state of kyoani fags in 2017.
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>>157794625
>KnK didn't win any awards because Japan doesn't care about deaf people.
The story isn't even focusing about disability you retard.
It's a fucking (forced) bullying drama with terrible writing just to make people feel bad.
It also failed to deliver whatever message it meant to deliver.
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>>157792583
Animation hard carries a sub-par adaptation that should have cut a bit more from the source material. Yamada has a bit more to learn about directing a feature length film but she did an above average and good job none the less. The hype and melodrama along with the stellar animation is currently keeping the score high and it's doubtful the anime community will really change their general attitude toward the film. That's ok though. I look forward to Yamada's future work and I'd love to see her take on a serious romance.
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>>157795097
>stellar animation
Pretty color pallet and shitty effects is stellar animation now instead of animation being actually good? Movie was static as fuck and pretty effects and storyboards really tried to hide that.
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>>157795097

I pretty much agree with this. They should have either cut more of the side characters that dont really do anything in the movie to add in important scenes that were cut or lengthened the whole thing a bit more. They crammed too much into such a short runtime. Other than that the rest of the show was top notch.
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Test
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>>157795248
Step up your bait.
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>>157795351
How is that bait? Movie looked static as fuck, that's a fact.
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>>157793693
>it's horrible what he did
>but the joke is so fucking good
Yeah, I know
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>>157792583
Went in expecting it to be inferior to Tamako and K-On!, came out to be literally my favorite anime.
The realism, the gentle minimalist OST, Shouya's character, the visuals, the themes, and the use of body language made it, in my eyes, better than anything I have ever watched before, and I empathized with it on a very personal level.
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>>157793298
>>157793693
>>157795651
I don't find it funny at all desu
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It was ok, the rushed pacing (ferris wheel to bridge scene are little less than 20 chapters apart from each other in the manga, three minutes in the film). It cuts a lot of fluff from the manga, specially when it comes to characters stating and re-stating their intentions and postures on different topics, and besides the obvious flaws that come with axing the source and a big portion of the side cast, and the contrived scenarios for emotional climaxes it was aight. 6/10
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It's pretty good overall, but something about it felt incomplete. Kinda sappy too. Deaf girl was also pretty lacking in personality.
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>>157795786
how does it feel to have no sense of humor?
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>>157792583
I wanted to rape the shit out of glasses bitch
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>>157796413
It's really just not funny. Like burning a homeless guys tent isn't really funny either.
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>>157796562
That makes the two of us. I'm not even above "dude edgy 4chan culture and edgy jokes" but that wasn't funny at all.
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I didnt want the movie to end. Kimi no nawa didnt have that for me
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>>157796562
>Like burning a homeless guys tent isn't really funny either.

LOL PRANK MASTER

>>157796413
Seriously, I bet that faggot wouldn't even find it funny if we took a socially anxious person, tore off all their clothes, tied them up, took photos and stuck them in front of a crowd to gawk at. Distributing the photos to all their friends and family at the same time.

That would be hilarious.
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>>157796930
>>157796562
nah, those are pushing it.
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why was shouko so horny though?
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Amazing
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>>157797539
Perfectly normal
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>>157797772

her horniness?
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>>157792583
It made me curious about whether Japan has a deaf culture different from that of the US and most other anglo countries.

Honestly, deaf culture has made me truly respect how fantasy or sci-fi series where humans interact positively with some more "gifted" race are unrealistic as fuck.

People who are deaf actually resent and hate people who can hear by and large. A significant proportion of their conversations are just them insulting the people who can hear around them.

In a fantasy setting humans would fucking purge and kill any species we had an inferiority complex towards.
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The first half was absolutely amazing and really managed to draw me in. Loved the premise, the characters felt natural and relatable, the music and animation was beautiful. The scene in which Shouko and Ishida were fighting each other made made my eyes watery.

The second half was ok, but I feel like it could've been a lot better. The pacing in the second half felt a little bit rushed. Shouko didn't get enough development. The romantic subplot came out of nowhere and didn't have any payoff. Things escalated too quickly after the fight on the bridge. At the very end, things still feld unresolved. Despite the weaker second half, KnK is now one of my top five favorite anime.
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>>157794625
It barely won anything because it's a shitty adaptation of an average manga.
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>>157798022
>thread is about your opinion on the movie
>talk about some RL shit in degenerate countries

nobody cares
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>Kimi no Na wa marketed as the best film ever
>2017 rolls around and this movie is released
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>>157798334
>go to theater and see knk
>it's inferior to Kino Na Wa
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PEOPLE TRY TO PUT US DOWN
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It was good as it could be, I think an episode format would have benefitted it for the sake of the story. But the movie was so gorgeous that I'm fine with it. I already read the manga so I could fill in the blanks.
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>>157799744
>I think an episode format
No way. The story would become muddled like the manga.
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>>157799744
in reality they should have just cut characters
or not re introduced them in the second half
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A much better film than Kimi no Na wa which had no characters, themes, animation or any sense of effective cinematography to grasp.
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>>157794181
>This cute
>>Defective

Suck it anon
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Needs more chex.
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I enjoyed it, not as much as Kimi No Na Wa but it was still a nice film to watch, didn't like the pace of the second half though, it felt super rushed in comparison to the first hour or so of the movie, character development was almost unexistant to the point it felt like deaf girl and ex-bully dude feat a bunch literal who's
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>>157792583
>pata pata
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>>157793802
You are forgetting the prizes the manga won.
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>>157797539
Years of repressed selfhate tuned her hormones up to eleven
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Imagine making a deaf girl laugh. She's never heard a laugh before so she wouldn't know what it's supposed to sound like or have any influence on how she makes her laugh sound, thats 100% pure unfiltered expression of her soul right there
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>>157793802
Many of the most acclaimed movies in history didn`t win important awards.
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>>157802041
That doujin is still great for a hearty fap.
Vanilla is always satisfying.
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>>157792583
Impressive. Very few movies make me keep thinking about them after I have watched them.
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>>157792583
>What was your honest opinion on it?
My honest opinion is "who cares?", because I already knew that MC guy didn't fug the deaf chick in the end, so why bother.
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>>157802783
Truly deaf people laughing is honestly kind of weird, and the movie made that obvious enough. Like I'm sure you would get used to it being around them a lot but it definitely weirds out people who aren't. Same with sex noises (from what I've heard at least).
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>>157803260
Sunday talks with Flipper.
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>>157802783
Imagine making a baby laugh. She's never heard a laugh before so she wouldn't know what it's supposed to sound like or have any influence on how she makes her laugh sound, thats 100% pure unfiltered expression of her soul right there
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>>157805541
Yeah but I jack off to anime BABES, not anime BABIES
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>>157802783
>>157805541

You guys probably never saw that video of two chads fucking deaf slut Who grunts like a wookie in heat while they make fun of her.
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If it didn't end out of nowhere and passed the manga's ending, it would have been a great movie.
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>>157792583
>lens flare
>crome aberration
>out of focus
I could barely stand it.

>>157793534
>>157793595
>Best movie of 2017
>Kono Sekai no Katasumi ni exists
Kill yourself.
>>157802795
That's the problem. Kimi no na wa shouldn't be important. I'm glad it did well but it being the best ever anime movie? Fuck no, it will only bring cancer.
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>>157805901
>>lens flare
>>crome aberration
>>out of focus
You don't understand art
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>>157805901
>Kono Sekai no Katasumi ni exists
It was good, but nothing more.
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>>157806153
I can understand some scenes but the whole fucking movie? Just no.
>>157806354
Still better than the other two.
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>>157805765
Link or it didn't happen.
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>>157793802
There's only 3~ important awards here. Especially the Japan Movie Critics Awards.
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>>157805901
>it will only bring cancer
Yeah, like you muh award faggots. Kill yourself
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>>157802159
>>157798084
That's how I felt about second half too. Too rushed and some of the characters got too much of the screen time even though they were almost irrelevant.
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>>157806354
This

Koe no Katachi > KonoSekai > Your Name
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>>157806957
Pretty much this.
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>>157806957
Koe no Katachi > KonoSekai >>> Your Name
Fixed that for you my man.
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>>157793802
If 3 different awards say each of the 3 movies is the best what does it mean?
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Kono Sekai subs where?
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Post 'em
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>>157806748
That's not why it's better.
Die.
>>157806957
As above.
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>>157792583
Liked it but I still like the source material way better. Too much stuff was cut and rushed through, particularly in the second half, to feel truly complete and the supporting cast really lost their relevancy with the film-arc excluded in its entirety.
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>>157807645
Explain what "character set" is first
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>>157807833
Nobody cares about the supporting cast. I'm glad it was cut.
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>>157807645
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>>157807645
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>>157807903
I'm guessing it's "character setting" or "characterization" or some shit, so I went with that.
Plot is pretty barebones, setting is a simple modern setting in an average suburb, characterization gets good points for the flashback and setting everything up.
As for character development Koe no Katachi is up there with the best of the best, same with art. Animation is great, but it isn't sakuga heavy, OST is extremely memorable and accentuates the film very well.
Voice Acting was so good that it made great scenes into GOAT scenes. Directing is flawless as usual, sasuga Yamada. Enjoyed it so much it trumped K-On! as my favorite anime.
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>>157808010
This one seems right to me.
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What was his point? It felt like he was there only when he needed to say some lines that were important to main characters development. Actually, I could say this about almost any other character from the supporting cast.
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>>157799903
nice b8 m8
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>>157808796
In the manga he was supposed to represent the antithesis of Ishida growing up. He was picked on, etc, and he constantly talks about how he hates bullies, which was supposed to kinda make Ishida's journey of coping with his actions more difficult because he's reminded of how people view his past, or something like that.

Even in the manga he was kinda one-dimensional and stiff, and given that the movie didn't cover that sort of thing at all, he really didn't add anything to the movie.
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>>157808796
His presence came about more naturally in the manga, even though he's still kind of the most "outsider" member of the group. In the movie he's a literal nobody. They should have just cut him out.
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>>157809278
He's obviously the only reason Kawai hangs around though, and Kawai plays a pivotal point in the movie.
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>>157792583
It was rushed and shallow. I have read the manga but I try to watch adaptations as their own thing, but even standalone the movie was awkwardly paced, and trying to squish the whole story into two hours made all the characters feel more superficial and random than they should be.

I also don't like the style Kyoani approached with this--I don't mean the bloom and blur even though I disliked that--but that it seemed like they were focused on making the movie as "pretty" as possible. Characters weren't as expressive as in the manga, and their faces got hidden so much it became too noticeable rather than subtle. It really lent to that shallow feeling I got from it, you can't put some of the ugly emotions these characters had on the table without actually showing them.
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Why do Kyoani feature so much legs shots?
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The manga was garbage but the movie was a near masterpiece. Based Yamada does it again avoiding the melodrama and exploitation of the source material.
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>>157809800
Yamada loves to do it, but in Koe no Katachi it's an important characterization point for Ishida.
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Yuzuru a cute
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>>157809906
>tfw no tomboy /p/ waifu
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>>157810085
They should have made Yuzuru deaf so she could be the main character, she's honestly a better developed character than Nishimiya
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>>157792583
another kyoanus moecrap
I didn't watch it and I never will

every fucking screenshot of this is blurry shit or stupid lens effect cause these retards can't draw proper movie backgrounds
waste of fucking money on yet another adaptation
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>>157810311
Stay mad
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Animeonly fag here.

Why do people hate Kawai so much? Is she a bigger bully in the manga? In the movie they never really show her doing anything wrong and a couple of times she even asks Ueno to stop bullying Shouko.
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>>157792583
Gordon Ramsay: HEY! KYOANI! C'MERE YOU!

KyoAni: Y-yes chef?

GR: WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?!

KA: I-it's our adaptation of Koe no Katachi chef...

GR: Koe no Katachi... A seven volume manga. Did you remember to cook it to 2 cours?

KA: W-we thought it'd be better if we shortened it down to a movie chef.

https://youtu.be/SFtLvkqHIds [Embed]

GR: A movie?! A FUCKING 2 HOUR MOVIE FOR A 7 VOLUME MANGA?!

KA: W-we thought it'd be better to trim the fat off the story chef.

GR: Oh bloody fucking hell! It needed less fat trimmed off than Lindsay fucking Lohan! WHAT ABOUT SHOYA AND SHOKO'S CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT! HOW ARE YOU GONNA PROPERLY ADAPT THAT IN A FUCKING MOVIE?!

KA: W-we decided to show more scenes of the other secondary characters to make fans happy chef.

GR: OH MY GOD! 86 THIS FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT! GET OUT!
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>>157811019
Animeonly too, I guess it's the fact that she pretended to be the dindu nuffin and tried to put the blame on others all the time.
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>>157811142
But she genuinely didn't do anything in the movie...
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>>157811019
One of the movies most blatant flaws, the lack of characterization and building of relationships(which the entire movies banks it's emotional climaxes on) is what ruins it for me.

It's so bad some of the characters aren't even themselves in the movie, kawai copied shoya and bullied her too, also embarrassed her in chorus class. The anime mirrors this scene but it's too subtile for it's own good and 99% of animeonlys missed it.
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read manga, though it was underwhelming, didn't watch movie
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>>157792583
was shit
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>>157809800
The absurd amount of chromatic aberration in this movie never ceases to amaze me. How can anyone look at this and think it looks good?
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>>157792583

Kyoani a shit.
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Koe no Katachi's manga is a dog shit, poorly written melodrama that spoonfeeds you every detail with a shovel. The film was a Fellini story in animated form. Unapologetically realistic and cleverly understated.
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>>157811842
>guy wakes up from the coma and goes to the bridge exactly at the same time as the girl he likes because they had a similar dream
>realisitc
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>>157811962
That hasn't happened to you before anon? Your life must be pretty boring.
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>>157811842
Hahahahahaha
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>>157792583
So good I can't seem to enjoy normal anime anymore.
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>>157792583
+Emotional
+Conveyed _enough_ of the source material to be satisfying
+Cut out the shitty movie within a movie subplot

-Masturbatory direction by Yamada. Seriously, how many times are we going to see legs, instagram filters, and autistic female leads from this hack?
-Poor characterization for most of the cast. You can blame the length of the manga but they were able to cut other things satisfactorily.
-Highly feminized main character. Again, another trademark of Yamada who seems to be revolted by any display of masculinity.

Overall, an enjoyable but flawed flick held back by the difficulties of being an adaptation and the masturbatory fantasies of the director. Get your popcorn ready and also a box of tissues just in case you cry.
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>>157813203
Highly informed and insightful review, thank you anon
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>>157805765
gonna need sauce on that my man
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as someone who was a beta faggot in highschool (and still is), i got bullied, and all i have to say regarding this movie is that i don't understand japan, bullies are people with exceptional power in their surroundings, they are the ones who are friends with everybody (excluding the people that fear them), they are the people nobody rats out, unless they have something to loose from not doing it, this movie makes it look like somehow they are the victims, like "yeah bully the nerds, but the rest of the poeple will treat you like an asshole", this is frankly backwards to me, and it ruined the whole movie, i guess i don't understand moon people
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>>157814417
The rest of the class used Shouya as a scapegoat when shit hit the fan.
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>>157792583
Kyoanus agenda for Blacked propaganda
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Why did we never get to see his sisters face?

Also dem sister legs tho
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>>157814417

The problem is that Ishida wasn't the typical bully, he was clearly the leader among his little group of friends but he was more of the class clown. That's why his classmates and fucking teacher threw him under the bus the moment things got really ugly.

Japan's bullying seems to be more social, where all the group picks someone who's a little off the accepted standards and make him an outcast, not the bullying when there's a particular leader/leaders. Ueno never stopped liking Ishida but ignored him with everybody else due to peer pressure.
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>>157792583

needlessly dramatic, which of course makes it a flawless work of art
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>>157815147
So why didn't he get over it? It was just a kids thing. Why didn't everyone get over it?
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>>157792583
Manga: good
Anime: okay
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>>157792583
There are a lot of things i want to say but filthy anime-only secondaries should just off themselves.
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>>157792583
It was very good.

Those who say Kimi no Na wa was miles better than KnK are wrong.

Those who say Kimi no Na wa was shit compared to KnK are wrong either.

Kimi no Na wa was exceptional in terms of plot direction while KnK was exceptional in terms of character interaction.

Though, if you ask me which movie was more enjoyable for me, I would still say Kimi no Na wa.
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>>157815748
Cause humans never get over things entirely
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>>157794625
Honest and true
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>>157814417
His friends didn't rat him out, the teacher already knew Ishida bullied Shoko. But when he tried shoving the blame on them, they denied everything because they realized it was their chance to avoid punishment.
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As someone who has never read the manga, It was a disappointment. Art direction was pretty good but I felt the characterization fell completely flat which made the story boring for me. Alot of the side characters in the flick were cardboard cutouts. Also, I'm by no means a psychologist but I don't think MC was a very good representation of an anti-social and depressed person.
But my girlfriend and her friends liked it a lot so I can't complain about money spent.
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