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I bet nobody uses this any more, but there's still a great use for it: denoise3d
Normally if you upscale anime with MadVR and use high adaptive sharpen settings the result will be noisy as shit, but if you switch MPC-HC from LAV decoding to ffdshow, upscale with NGU Sharp and enable denoise3d it'll look like a freaking waifu2x upscale. Pic related, with adaptive sharpen on 1.0 and denoise3d settings at default. I can't promise this'll work well with poor sources but it's pretty magical with great sources like this 720p YrYr BD rip.
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Posting a few more examples.
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>>157768355
just use vlc and put it fullscreen
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Anyways, tl;dr: ffdshow's denoise3d allows one to use higher adaptive sharpen settings without a noisy image resulting. denoise3d's effect here is easier to notice in motion than in stills, so try it yourself and see.
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I just noticed that denoise3d is also great for any Horriblesubs files, upscaling/sharpening or no.
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The denoise3d+adaptive sharpen combination is also nice for 1080p anime at native resolution when the lineart is listed at an in-between 720p and 1080p resolution on anibin... this combination can make these files look like full 1080p anime.
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>>157768866
>>157769082
It makes 1080p Horriblesubs Eromanga Sensei look great. This doesn't look like ~873p lineart anymore, as anibin says it is.
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Try it on some old cel animu in SD and post results.
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>>157768355
This looks like a crappy emulator filter.

>>157768726
This looks really good though.
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>>157769364
>This looks like a crappy emulator filter.
I think it looks great, but I know what you mean, and it's because the source has thick lines.
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More of 1080p Horriblesubs Eromanga Sensei looking like a full 1080p lineart BD rip.
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>>157769683
It seems denoise3d does almost as much for Horriblesubs videos as debanding.
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Post some side-by-side comparisons.
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>>157769905
The difference between denoise3d on and off on still shots can be very subtle, but the difference is much less subtle in motion. You're better off just trying it yourself.
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This is a Horriblesubs video. Let that sink in. I can't believe I didn't think of this sooner. This shit is voodoo magic.
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>>157770575
Time?
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It works good when upscaling 720p TV rips as well.
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>>157770904
...as well as 720p Horriblesubs, which are typically poor downscales. This is from [HorribleSubs] Eromanga-sensei - 08 [720p].
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>>157770788
~20:50
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>>157768355
>denoise3d settings at default
With the HQ checkbox checked. Forgot to mention.
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>>157770575
>>157770984
Not bad. But I'm too lazy to change filters and I sort of like the noise.
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[Doki]_Non_Non_Biyori_-_01_(1920x1080_Hi10P_BD_FLAC)_[324F003D]
~846p lineart according to anibin. Sure is looking full 1080p in here.
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>>157770575
>>157771235
The denoise3d is pretty apparent here if you look at her irises. Thanks for posting that, >>157771235
I was having trouble finding a still frame that it was obvious on.
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I may be wrong about this but http://avisynth.nl/index.php/Hqdn3d appears to be the same thing as ffdshow's denoise3d with HQ box checked in avisynth format which mpv users may get use out of.
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The hell is ngu sharp and why are kons suxh shoujlets
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>>157772060
>The hell is ngu sharp
The most advanced/powerful realtime video upscaling algorithm available; part of the software known as MadVR. IIRC it's a neural network upscaler.
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>>157772121
How do you set the upscale to that?
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>>157772121
I've been using ngu anti-alias, should I have been using sharp all along?
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>>157772159
Use sharp by default, change to AA when you encounter a poor source that sharp makes look like shit. AA is particularly good for poor 480p sources.
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>>157772159
https://diff.pics/fLi5MbaICEn0/1
https://diff.pics/WGmhXzGI4LSl/1
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/209790
Some links from a previous media player thread here on /a/ to show you how NGU Sharp is better for some sources and NGU AA is better for some sources... and how one or the other will always be better than mpv's ewa_lanczossharp aside from the unique case of cel grain preservation, which is, of course, a matter of taste since some like grain and some hate it.
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After playing around with this more and some help from /g/ I would recommend setting the time setting in denoise3d to 0 to avoid distortion of gradients during panning shots.
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>>157768355
where is it?
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>>157773665
Blur and NR
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>>157768355
Just use awarpsharp tasteless nigger
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>>>/g/60622830

Extremely relevant info.
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After more experimentation, I discovered that my AMD R9 270x video card has a hidden setting unavailable in the shitty new Radeon settings app which can be accessed by RadeonMod, found at http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=403389
Setting the setting CmMode_Denoise to a value of 1 produced a superior denoising effect to ffdshow's denoise3d. Here, it looks essentially the same as >>157770575
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>>157776413
However, while ffdshow's denoise3d blurs the grass at the bottom here...
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>>157776441
...the hidden CmMode_Denoise setting at 1 preserves the grass much more faithfully. This setting looks good to me in motion across many different anime I've tested, and I'm confident enough to state it's superior to the ffdshow denoise3d.
I think NVIDIA cards have their own version of noise reduction for video too, so this may be worth testing in conjunction with adaptive sharpen for NVIDIAbros.
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>>157776514
Er, accidentally saved this as .jpg, creating banding.
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