is this the worst anime ever made? i'm into season 2, and

ur the worst anime ever made

>>157689342
trolling aside Bog arc was pretty drawn out.

>>157689342

i'm glad to see i'm not the only one who thinks this shit is completely overrated

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its still better than aldnoah zero thou

>>157689342
>literally the most painful thing i have ever had to watch
Damn, wish I were that new

>>157689427
Hey, retard. Want to not seem like a fucking cunt? If you don't like a thing, just say you don't like it, rather than calling everyone who likes it wrong. Especially when the thing is popular and critically acclaimed.

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>>157689571

>WAAAAH Stop hating what i like !!!

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>>157689563
ITS SEVEN EPISODES STRAIGHT OF PACHINKO BALLS BOUNCING AROUND WHILE PEOPLE CRY

COME ON

>>157689342
Ending of season 2 is a massive fucking joke

>>157689682

what's the matter ? you don't like watching men crying for 15min each episode ?

>>157689342
You forgot about the
ざわ～　ざわ～

>>157689342
Huh, when you describe it like that it sounds more like really gay otome game.

>>157689682
I'm just saiyan that if Kaiji 2 is the worst you've seen then you must not have seen much, also
>posting 3DPD
Sweet summer child

>>157689793
name anything that could be worse than seven episodes of repeated exposition, balls, and tears.

you can't

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>>157689342

>>157689962
110 episodes of nothing happening in which the author pretends to understand politics and military tactics despite knowing fuckall about either.

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>>157690253

Pachinko arc was a mistake.

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>>157689962
>Hating on balls
You have yet to see Kaiji just become another FMK Mahjong manga

>>157690330
Read a book, nigger.

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>>157690414

HE HATES IT

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the manga is excellent and season 1 is on the best adaptations ever when you consider how well they nailed the VAs and music

FKMT is niche stuff, theres no shame in being a pleb and admitting its not for you

HE TILTED

THE

FUCKING

BUILDING

>>157689342
>18-25
Jojo reference?

>>157689342
I'll admit the Bog arc was unnecessarily slow as fuck but if you can't appreciate the good shit you need to fuck off.

>>157689962
Eight episodes of repeated episodes.

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Who cares? Underground chinchirorin more than made up for it

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I need more FKMT animated badly.

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>>157689342
>not liking the bog
The release was entirely worth the wait

Ichijou cries too.

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>>157689342
If you can't even handle the Bog, be glad that you haven't read Akagi. The Washizu Mahjong arc lasted actual 20 years.

>>157690494
Every time I think about this, I get a solid kek. What a fucking balls to the wall move.

S1 was premium shit. S2 had some issues.

Don't expect anything different if Part 3 ever gets animated. Almost the whole thing takes place in an unremarkable back office room.

In Part 4, everything with Kazuya has been interesting, and there's much more spectacle and tension, however there's no conclusion yet. I don't want the ending to feel like Akagi's eventually did. I want to feel the zawa zawas.

>>157691013
>premium shit
Meant as a positive, if I didn't make that clear. Good shit.

>>157691013
>S1 was premium shit. S2 had some issues
>Don't expect anything different if Part 3 ever gets animated.
What horrendous fucking taste.

>>157691078
There are good things in Part 3, but it's the least dynamic part of the series. If OP didn't like half a season sitting at a pachinko machine, he's not going to be engaged by an entire season in a back room playing majong for relatively low stakes.

>>157689342
First season is awesome, I really couln't sleep and watched it in one go because of the suspence.

The second one is "eh".
The dice game is pretty cool yes, but the Pachinko thing is waaaay to long.

>>157689650
> a jojofag
not even suprised

>People saying Pachinko was too long

You weren't there, imagine waiting every week for 20 minutes of nothing, the suspense, the hype the sheer rage when you realise it's another week before something may happen.
Then when he won it was magical. >>157690757 this guy gets it

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>>157689342
Akagi is the superior anime

Can somebody explain to me why has Mistuyama betrayed Mario and Chang? That is one of the things that don't make sense to me.

>>157689342
>Hating on crying Kaiji
Consider suicide. I could watch Kaiji cry for hours, it's a pure beautiful sight.

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>>157692407
I prefer Kaiji smiling.

ICHIJO
ICHIJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>157692483
It's good too, obviously. He's moe in every way possible. But him crying is the epitome of cutesy.

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>>157690550
>NO COUNTO!
FKMT really knows how fat cunts are the worst cunts.

>>157692311
I think the pressure if his situation just started to weigh on him more and more. The temptation of escaping his shit life while guaranteeing his own safety pushed him to betrayal. Could've happened to any of them honestly

>>157689342
people these days can't handle 2 episodes without the series having the plot fly or some teasing shit, back in the days people would watch 8 times the same episode just to get ir right

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>>157692311
He didn't come from a poor rising, he can't understand a way of living outside the money pyramid scheme.

>>157689962
>naruto, bleach, one piece, black clover, fairy tail, any mahou shoujo for kids (pripara), endless 8, oreimo, sagiri is 12, saki, etc

>>157689342
There aren't any cute girls in it, so people will pretend that its good.

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>>157692506
I feel bad for Ichijou. I hope he gets out of TEIAI hell and we get to see him again.

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>>157692744
>There aren't any cute girls in it
Wrong.

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>>157692824
stop it

>>157692646
There is plenty of content in playing the Bog. Yeah it probably could have been condensed some but honestly I could only see it being cut maybe down by an episode. The point of the Bog is how desperate Kaiji has to get, it's supposed to really punctuate that he's truly doomed to be the struggler and that this is his doomed fate. But the reason Kaiji is the struggler isn't just his awful fate but the fact that he won't accept it, he will forever fight to keep himself from falling into hell.

The Bog is literally Kaiji fighting impossible odds, every episode is him encountering a new insurmountable odd as he just tries to buy himself more and more time in order to pull victory from a sure loss. Every episode is rich in atmosphere, tension, and character interactions all while building up to an amazing climax.

I prefer season 1 but the Bog had some excellent execution that to this day ties my stomach into knots with the genuine anxiety it creates.

Can you pick up the manga where the anime left off? Would I be missing anything or should I go back and read from the start?

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I stopped reading Kazuya-hen so long ago that I had to start from the beginning. It has been a fine morning reading.
Will pic related ever be translated?
>>157694580
Anime is so well done even the scanlators advise to skip the manga. So yes, you can pick it up where the anime left off.

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>>157689342
Kaiji is meant to be watched while in the middle of holding an imminent urge to endlessly ejaculate while simultaneously prying your eyes from the screen using bitter and salty tears as you die from a heart attack and panic-induced convulsions. Your pain is nothing.

>>157689571
>getting this mad

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>>157692824
When will Mikoko become relevant to the plot FKMT you fucking tease

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>>157689376
It really was. My least favourite arc of Kaiji, but still a solid series overall imho.
>>157690550
>Underground chinchirorin more than made up for it
Because this^

>>157689342
You should check our Haruhi Suzumiya season 2, I reckon you'll love it.

>>157694960
not him, but I can just pick it up from the 3rd arc then? how far along are translations?

>>157696176
Stop bullying Kaiji, he doesn't deserve it!

>>157696341
Translations are already on the second half of part 4, so you'll have alot to pick uo on. Fair warning though, we're about 100 or so chapters behind the raw so it's gonna be awhile till we see the end of it
But yes, you can just pick up from Part 3

>>157696424
are the translations active or are we always gonna be 100+ chapters behind and never catch up

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>>157696403
I would never bully Kaiji
He's just an innocent boy who needs love in his life

>>157696176
>I will NEVER get my hands on the Kaiji figma
Maybe this is what he feels like

>>157689342
I fuckin love it how people here automatically assume all the other people know every fucking anime there is.

Can't you at least list a name of it?

>>157696471
Active, but I can forgive the group because they're doing all of FKMT's other current works as they're being put out

>>157689342
is this the worst bait ever made? i'm into sentence 2, and words 1-22 are just scenes of anon crying, and balls circling around anon's holes.

literally the most painful bait i have ever had to read

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>>157696546

>>157689342

They dragged the last arc out for way too long, you're right.

>>157696568
hm that's not too terrible. I guess I've got something else to read at work now, thanks

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>>157689342
Kazuya is a good and fair man and did nothing wrong!

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>>157689342
I know this is a Kaiji thread but can we take a moment to acknowledge how weird Akagi looked as a teen

>>157696546
>literally states the name of the popular and easily recognisable series in his post
>also posts the character and provides a handy image which, when searched, would instantly give you the series if that wasn't enough already

(you)

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>S3 never
>full manga translation in years
How does that makes you feel?

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>Hey, did you forget? Dealer goes twice.

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>>157696870
I HATE IT

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>>157696918
HE HATES IT

>>157696870
no we already got s3 :^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SGBX3xKwFo

I really liked the mahjong chapter in Kaiji.
Any other good anime or manga about mahjong similar to that or Akagi?

>>157697055
Legendary Gambler Tetsuya.

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>>157689376
You could say that it bogged Kaiji down.

>>157692744
Kaiji is cuter than any girl.

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>>157689342
go watch your flat superficial fake badass glossy kproject shit then, anon
unless pic related

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>>157697055
Ten is by far the best FKMT manga when it comes to mahjong. On top of having much more fluid pacing than Kaiji & Akagi, it goes much more in-depth about strategies and smart plays, has a much bigger cast with everyone having their own little things to spice up things, plenty of ballsy cheating and the best characterization of Akagi by far.

Harada and Soga would destroy Washizu without even breaking a sweat tbqh

>>157690569
every time a new live action thing gets announced i can't help but feel angry fkmt isn't getting the sweet animes he deserves....... the live actions aren't half that bad, but a lot of the charm is lost...

>>157689571
But he did though, he clearly said he didn't like it.

>>157697388
Sounds good, going to read it now and after that play some mahjong games on my Saturn.

If I don't understand Mahjong fully (I know the names, but don't know possible hands) will I be able to enjoy Akagi?

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>>157697729

>>157697388
i see you're a man of culture as well!
i always found it strange how the stakes in the east west battle are a little unclear, and i'm not sure what they mean (the balance of the mahjong playing underworld at stake?), but the matches are so engaging and interesting regardless. it's really good mahjong. somehow a little less flashy than in akagi, and it taught me a lot more about mahjong than i expected.
not to mention all the fleshing out the characters get in the last three volumes damn, rip akagi you magnificent bastard
ten really is fkmt's magnum opus

>>157692793
He really didn't deserve what he got. Poor thing.

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>>157697388
>Harada and Soga would destroy Washizu without breaking a sweat
Washizu mahjong is too geared in Washizu's favour. Is it even possible to win that easily?

Would Akagi win if he played all the games (not related to mahjong) Kaiji went through?

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>>157698075
It's a double edged sword. Washizu is a shrewd asshole who set up a game where he's practically guaranteed victory, especially with his almost cheating luck, but he's also overly reliant on those favorable odds and the psychological pressure it puts on the people facing him. He's also particulary vulnerable to mindgames as a result. He wasn't able to score one single ron against Akagi who was reading him like a book, and the dude was practically half-dead for 4 rounds as well.
Harada and Soga are both tough dudes who ruled the underworld and they're also scarily good players. I really doubt someone as lenient as Old Washizu who's just using the game as a distraction to wank himself wouldn't completely lose his shit when facing players who could actually give Akagi a run for his money.

>>157698533
You're forgetting Washizu's godly luck, and determination to win.
I mean, how many godly hands did washizu assemble over these past 20 years?

>>157689342
Is this the biggest plebeian who has ever posted on /a/? Holy fuck.

>>157698587
Soga has also a godly luck that may actualy be a sixth sense to know what tiles come up. He'd be unstoppable in a setting that allows you to pick whatever tile comes in your hand, on top of actually be able to play the game.

>>157689682
>>157689962
Yeah crossboarder-kun, not every show is pile of muscles hitting each other for 20 minutes while explosions go off in the background. If you can't understand what makes Kaiji what it is, then how the fuck did you even manage to watch 3/4ths of the entire show? Did your read about it in a recommendation chart and jumped blindly at it, forcing yourself to keep going just because other people said it was good?

>>157692824
https://exhentai.org/g/418454/b550b7be8b/

>>157689342
To say that it's the worst anime ever made is a bit of an overstatement. S1 is ok, S2 is garbage and the opening songs are great.
The worst part of Kaiji is how disappointingly bad it is compared to Akagi.

>>157692793
I thought he was a girl from the opening when I started the season.

>>157697388
Ten is a fucking masterpiece, goddamn.

Cemented Akagi as the best FKMT character.

>>157698943
I want Kaiji to make me into a woman.

>>157697729
Yes, it's how most people start. Thing is, the shit Akagi is pulling doesn't make much sense regardless. Just rewatch it again later after you know the rules - refer to >>157697789

>>157698533
>facing players who could actually give Akagi a run for his money.
Old, chilled out Akagi that was no longer trying to win at all costs anyway.

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>>157697789
>>157699558
i always wondered about that particular meme, like i don't understand what he realizes after watching the third time, what else is there besides that he just stole dragons to make daisangen while the mobsters were distracted? as time goes on im hoping to get it, im far from "advanced" in mahjong but you know

>>157699856
I believe is more the fact of the ballsy cheating and how that would make an expert of mahjong feel than a hidden detail.

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How is the manga doing at the moment anyway? I kind of forgot about it a bunch of chapters into gaijinbutton.
And where the fuck is my Zero anime

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>>157699626
old akagi a best

>>157699626
Old mellowed Akagi is still an absolute beast, though. I don't think it takes away from Ten / Harada's prowess at all.

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>>157699975
Maybe if FKMT makes part 3 after Akagi ends, and it somehow raises Zero's popularity?

>>157699856
1st is trying to understand the cheat, 2nd realizes how crazy such a move would be especially in front of Yakuza, 3rd is so experienced he empathizes with the yakuza and is about to burst a blood vessel with rage at the idea of getting cheated in such a way

I know a lot of FKMT's stuff is all connected sorta, is there a particular order I should read them in

>>157698943
lmao favorited

>>157701003
They aren't really connected.
The only ones that are is
1. Akagi
2. Ten
3. Hero
You should read them in that order. Other than that they are in their own worlds.

>>157701305
>Other than that they are in their own worlds
I don't think that's the case. They're in the same world, the stories are just connected. Kurosawa shows up in the Kaiji S2 OP, there's a few other cameos I'm forgetting too.

>>157689376
WATER CUBES made it all worth it imo. You just didn't see that shit coming.

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man, Kurosawa is so good

>>157701002
thank you anon!

>>157689342

Akagi was a mistake. You'll notice that the perspective switches from Akagi to the antagonist more and more as the series goes on because Akagi is the one with all the secrets and hidden plans to victory. Being in his head would ruin the suspense.

This is why the prespective still bounces back and forth with Kaiji and his opponents. Kaiji actually struggles to win.

>>157701391
The Absolute Madman
If I remember correctly, he just thought of using water on the fly? It was lucky he learned that the soil the building is on is shitty.

>>157699558
Should I go immideitly to manga or is anime also good as Kaiji?

>>157701859
you were a mistake anon
we aren't in akagi's head because the whole point is that his understanding is that beyond of regular humans, and the story approach of interpreting the matches from the perspective of onlookers (which is much more often than the antagonist), is a brilliant move on fkmt's part, allowing us to figure things out with them as the match progresses (if not understanding before they do)

>>157702045
The anime is a pretty faithful adaptation, and i really like the soundtrack as well. If you watch it, remember that there is one match they cut out from the anime, the one between the Urabe and Washizu matches.
You'll probably be inspired to give both the manga and the anime a try, if you end up liking it. I loved to see how they adapted certain scenes from the manga into the anime.

>>157702249
First I hear this. What was the gamble? By any chance do you know around what chapter it is?

>>157702045
Watch it for the soundtrack alone, some tracks are amazing.
You will still have a lot of manga chapters to read after Anime ends.

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>>157702429
Around volume seven. Mahjong against pic related.

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>>157698943

>https://exhentai.org/g/418454/b550b7be8b/

solid gold

>>157701305
Akagi literally just finished, why would you read it before Ten?

>>157703498
There are still few chapters left for Akagi

>>157703498
there are 8 or 9 more chapters left and also, it's not a bad idea to get to know akagi better before reading ten. it's good to get a better grasp on mahjong as well.
if you read ten first, and then akagi would be kinda interesting. it might help you understand akagi better. older akagi is more chill, but at the core they are still the same person of course.

>>157703848
understand akagi as a character, i mean. not understand the series better.

>>157703848
I think you should watch Akagi, read Ten, read the rest of the Washizu mahjong match.

I also think he should start with Kaiji then pick any point to read Kurosawa, but that's just my preference.

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>>157704096
yeah, that's not a bad idea! kinda wish i did that now... kaiji is a great starting point too, but i was under the impression anon had already watched it.

thank you all for reading my thread. seems like the consensus agrees with my op.

>>157689682
>3DPD swine
>>>/hc/

>>157708112
>master1200

>>157690861
I just finished Washizu Mahjong yesterday.

The ending is unironically some of the most poignant shit I've ever read.

RIP Washizu, you went out like a champ.

>>157689342
do you ever just start walking out of a restroom and accidentally step on a cardboard box and lose your mind?

>>157689342
I will find you and kill you. Don't go to sleep fucker, you won't ever wake up.

>>157708155
Everyone says this when I post an image from pixiv
What does it mean? Doesn't it have something to do with how the image is scaled?

>>157701634
>tfw no animated Kurosawa

>>157709957
I'll be nice and help you.
When you save from pixiv you can click on the left corner and it'll open the same art in better quality and size.

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>>157709957
the "master' versions are often scaled down from the real resolution. You should click on the arrow icon next to the picture and the full res should open in a new tab.

>>157709356
Kaiji is crazy smart, too bad he has to be in serious shit to really use his brains....

>>157710273
What a 'whatever' reason to reprimand someone, maybe I just wanted that particular picture smaller...

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>>157709081
>Washizu out

>>157710632
Is this an edit, or is there a new chapter out?

>>157710687
It's real.

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>>157710730
Damn Washizu.

You just won't die, will you?

Wonder what he'll do now.

>>157710687
Chapter 297! Washizu back at it again

>>157710814
i was kind of hoping that the remaining ~9/8 chapters would be setting the tone for ten, but right now i don't really know. considering how fkmt relishes in dragging things out, especially recently, i wouldn't really be surprised if nothing much happens up until the end, but i'm desperately hoping that's not the case.

>>157710997
I think we'll get some introspection between Akagi and Washizu.

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>he made them loosen the rods themselves
>he replaced the flippers with candy
>he tilted the building
>he tilted the FUCKING building

I just rewatched all of s2 a few days ago and it was just as good as the first time. Chinchiro in the first third was also great, especially the payoff.

>>157711299
kaiji made me realise that knowing the ending/accidentally getting it spoilered doesn't really count when it comes to good shows because it's all about the buildup. from the S1 finale I knew 100% that he would never hold on to money to the end.

>>157711452
I liked how with chinchiro they gave the viewer several hints and chances to figure out how the foreman was cheating. They even showed the 4-5-6 double sided dice spinning in the background during an exposition once.

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>>157711452
it's a really peculiar thing for me with fkmt works, even if you're spoiled an ending or element of something, it's still such a wild ride, and the payoff is great anyway! can't really say that about everything out there.

I like Kaiji, and it was a fun enough watch, but god damn if the character designs aren't the ugliest thing I've ever fucking seen. It's like the worst sameface syndrome I've ever witnessed coupled with the most "look how unique I am" art style. I truly hate it. Decent show though.

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>>157711819
>I truly hate it
HE HATES IT

>>157711819
How does it feel to live with a taste as bad as yours? I'm genuinely curious.

>>157712126
Feels fine to me, it was still a great manga and a fun anime.

I want to do things to Ichijou's feet.

>>157711819
he hates it

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>>157712530
i fucked up

>>157696968
This makes me so irrationally angry, but at the same time I kinda get it with how mahjong heavy Part 3 is.


Also this video is clipped out of order and that triggers me.

>>157697873
Part of that lack of clarity into the real stakes of the East-West battle is because we're following along side Hiroyuki, who's an outsider to that entire scene. I think HERO might go a bit farther into that sort of balance of the underworld, but I kinda doubt it.

>>157712762
Part 4 with Kazuya is really great.They should just skip mahjong and make S3 prom part 4.

>>157713003
To be fair, a major point of part 3 is the introduction of Kazuya. Without having that context, Part 4 doesn't make as much sense as to why Kaiji is so angry towards him initially. This is coming from having just reread part 3.

You can do part 3 is 12 episodes or less, assuming you cut out most of the in depth mahjong analysis that's there. Taking that out, its an amazing arc on its own without needing an understanding of mahjong. We get a 2-cour where its split with 17 Steps and Salvation Game, you'd have a pretty solid season (then having One Poker as a 1-cour after).

>>157713305
That sounds good too. Is there any hope for another season at all? I heard that S1 and S2 were really a flop for Madhouse.

>>157712530
Not you again.

>>157713590
this is my only haven to post about how i feel

This entire thread. /a/ please, please get your shit together. I don't want this to suffer a terrible falling like /g/ or /v/ has the last 4-6 years.

>>157713623
it's cool anon, i'm always glad to see you're still around.

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>>157714435
don't lie, anon...

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>>157702842

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kJXwCuBCDI

>>157711819
I know that FKMT used to draw in an almost-cutesy style, appropriate for the time his manga won in the chiba tetsuya awards; it kind of makes me think he forcefully developed his style to the current version to be more noticed. But the style in beginning of Ten and Gin to Kin are between the cutesy and current styles, and show a natural progression, so I don't know.
I like the way FKMT draws, honestly. It made me get into his series in the first place.

>>157711819
>sameface

You're a fucking idiot. No one in Kaiji has the same face.

>>157689342
>not taking pleasure from Kaiji's tears and despair
What the fuck

>>157716495
Get back to work, Ichijou.

The fact Kaiji is so loved on /a/ and MAL is fucking hilarious, it's pseudo-intellectual trash that appeals to the impressionable.

>>157689342
>kaiji crying, people screaming kaiji, and balls circling around holes.
You just described all the best bits of Kaiji though

>>157716808
you mean all anime?

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>>157716668

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>>157710814
I hope for the (very unlikely) possibility that the doctor (from his own spin-off) re-grows up (he should have around 20 years for that) and can remake his anti-aging drug and so Washizu could be alive in Hiroyuki's spin-off, like Ichikawa.

>>157710327
it would be fun to imagine what would happen if we were to replace Urabe with Kaiji, of course Akagi would accept a rematch (the madman thinks that family, etc., are all breaks between games, and that if he becomes unable to play, he'd have no use for his life -- "the self is more important than life"), Kaiji could then be comparable with Washizu after the 4th hanchan (showing his true abilities, going to the bitter end of an agreement and putting his own survival aside).

i read akagi from beginning to end and still couldnt tell you how to play mahjong

>>157718609
You can't understand it unless you're Japanese. They're born with the ability to comprehend mahjong. It's genetics.

>>157717022
speaking of comparisons (>>157718355
), Kaiji could be compared with Ten due to the endurance theme, although they deal with it on different ways (it feels like Ten knows he'll get beat up by cheating his way to a win, at times badly, and still does it anyways, has great pressure/psychological resistance, and great perseverance in adverse situations)

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>>157690414

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>>157692824
I fixed you're waifu

>>157719076
I'd let her handle my balls.

>>157689342
I watched this on rec and it made me think less of them

>>157689342
>had to watch
Who forced you to watch this?

>>157691836
Akagi is the dumbest character I've ever seen in an anime.

And aside from the attempt to make his character look smart being an utter failure, he is also unlikable unlike kaiji as he's a motiveless coldhearted piece of shit.
It's like watching a show of the old fart in Kaiji as he grew up.
Absolutely disgusting.

i dont know the rules of mahjong and i don't plan to lean.

why did it have to happen in kaiji for the mother of fuck i dont CAAAAAAAAAAAAAARE

>>157689342
DAGA
SHIKASHI

>>157689793
>saiyan
Fucking off yourself asap

>>157689342
>Hating on bog arc
>can't enjoy something because it's long
It's either autism or adhd, i say suicide is the only cure

>>157689342
legitimately lafffed

>>157713574
japan has a really crazy anti drug mindset and the musician got busted for weed so he's now an undesirable. a kaiji crew is now kinda stigmatized as "those people who worked with a stoner" and even if they did miraculously make a third season, it wouldn't have the same music so what's the point

>>157723715
The version in Kaiji is super simple and fast paced
It mostly just boils down to 'this is the piece I need, how can I cheat or guesstimate as to what piece he needs'

>>157726849
it was too long

it was 10 episodes on that one game (16-25)

>>157723362
Akagi is fkmt's attempt at writing a story about different kinds of genius. Through mahjong he explores the different ways people are talented, and I feel tries to reconsile his own feelings about how unfairness of someone being extremely gifted in comparison to everyone else.
In that respect, Akagi is one of the best written fkmt characters, understandable but maybe not quite relatable. It's too bad you don't like him. He definitely doesn't grow up to be like Hyodo too.

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*narrator yelling in background*

Where do I learn how to play Mahjong?

>>157730672
google.

>>157730672
>>>/jp/17032441

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>>157723362
>And aside from the attempt to make his character look smart being an utter failure
how so?

>he is also unlikable unlike kaiji
I personally prefer Akagi, because not only Akagi is a complex, unique character himself, more importantly, his abilities are more entertaining to read/watch for me: he has amazing people reading skills, intelligence gathering, can plan ahead and see deep possibilities (for example, the final round against Ichikawa and especially against Urabe)

>as he's a motiveless coldhearted piece of shit.
Kaiji plays games (seriously) because he gets himself in situations where he's forced to, games are to him a mean to a goal. For Akagi, games are the goal themselves. He plays them without regard for rewards or payments (showing apathy after the matches end, offering to play games where he doesn't benefit from them, whether he wins or loses), and high-stakes games are how he can play against other people who're also serious about winning.

>It's like watching a show of the old fart in Kaiji as he grew up.
except that unlike him, Akagi actively gets rid of his prize money instead of letting it pile up, he sees money, success and fame as luxuries which build up to take away one's freedom, and aren't truly part of one's life. Even Gin (from Gin to Kin) who's rich and ambitious is more likable than the old fart, character-wise.

when is season 3

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I've recently read kurosawa and just started the sequel 8 years later. The first was great and I've enjoyed it more than anything in a long time, but the sequel just seems like it's now entirely self-deprecating with next to no redemption. I'm only a few chapters in with Kurosawa just regaining his voice and begging to go to the mixer, but it doesn't even feel like it's worth bothering to keep reading.

Does it get better to make reading worthwhile? Does it ever get close to the original?

>>157733729
Never. I hate it.

>>157723362
I ended out rooting for Washizu.

Not because I don't like Akagi, but more because Washizu, despite being a horrible bastard, was more human.

I like how the two characters begin to relate to each other as the mach progresses.

>>157691327
>not losing your fucking mind when kaiji calls ron
part 3 was great

>>157696573
underrated

>>157733935
I've held off on the sequel, because frankly the first ended so perfectly I'm surprised it was even returned to.

That said I have faith in FKMT and I'll definitely read it at some stage, but your concerns aren't helping me.

>>157735012
I wouldn't be surprised at all if it does pick up and have a decent ending, but it's still ongoing so I don't have that to look forward to for a while. The original's ending was great and the first 10 or so chapters of the sequel has really hurt its impact to me. It's like fukumoto did a hard reset on kurosawa and got rid of most of his character development, I hate it when writers do that.

So Kaiji vs. Akagi never ever ? I mean, they both in the same time period, right ? Same country. They even deal with same shady people.
Akagi would have been winning all the time and near the end tables would have turned for Kaiji.

i dont even want season 3. it would never be the same without the music composer, who was blacklisted form the industry for being caught with weed

fuck nippon, man

Potential bait thread but I really wasn't a fan either. It had its moments, but the narrator got on my nerves is my main complaint

>>157736743
Did he get out of jail yet, at least?

>>157737051
not a clue

>>157736583
Not even Kaiji could stage a last minute turnaround against Akagi. He's got no chance.

>>157736583
Kaiji has 0 chances against Akagi. This setup is literally only good for another display of Kaiji's infinite suffering.

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>>157697789
The Saki version is still the best one

>>157737107
>>157737257

No. When Kaiji is absolute shit that´s when he is at his best. This would have helped him to defeat Akagi.

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>>157738228
No one's denying that. Kaiji is a real piece of shit until he's backed into a corner, but even his best isn't enough to scratch Akagi. Akagi plays on a different level to literally everyone else.

>>157738228
>>157738329
Someone post the Kaiji vs Akagi Rock Paper Scissor pasta

>Fukumoto will never do an UNO gamble manga
Just zawa my shit up

>>157740605
I hope the big finale of Kaiji is an UNO match between Kaiji and Hyodo

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>>157737257
maybe if the players are of equal strength, both of them might survive. As for pic related, I like how the chance for a complete tie is 1/362880 (if I'm not mistaken), yet Akagi accepts it, while Hiroyuki refuses a match with a much lower probability (1/156).

>>157689342
How do we get FKMTKrazy to translate more of FKMT's older work like Wani no Hatsukoi or Shinjitsu no Otoko
That is, after they're done with this already heavy load they have

>>157741793
You have to defeat them in a gamble
Seriously
http://mahjongkrazy.blogspot.com/2015/10/mukoubuchi-chapter-1.html
http://mahjongkrazy.blogspot.com/2017/04/shin-janki-underground-mahjong-gambling.html

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Why is this in english? Last translated episode is way before this.
The joke was worth the spoil.

>>157730672
learn basic yaku off of osamuko or arcturus and then you can practice a little bit on http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html or some japanese mahjong phone app, before you go against real people on tehnou.net, if you want. the rest will just come along the way.
also while reading whatever mahjong manga, just look up every term you don't know on arcturus and you'll be fine.

>>157731864
Couldn't have said it better myself, anon.
Have you been reading HERO? I am hesitant to start, I don't want to see Hiro continuing to chase after Akagi and Ten's backs. I'm sure it has good mahjong though.

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>>157734708
I feel the same way, I was liking Washizu more and more as the match went on; by the time he went to hell and back he had already cemented himself as a favourite.

>>157743788
I was able to find sites only till 100th chapter. While I know that it ain't fully translated could you tell me where to look for more?

Could anyone not named Akagi Shigeru beat Washizu? I'm pretty sure Washizu is invincible too.

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>>157745219
Washizu is cute, CUTE!

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>>157745667
I'll spoonfeed you but this will be the last time!
FKMT Krazy uploads a chapter every week on their blog. That, or Batoto.

>>157689342
season 1 > season 2

>>157747861
Hell>Espoir>Slave game>high crosssing>bog machine

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>>157744970
caught up with the english scanlations, liked Hiroyuki's insights and apparently, there will be a second East/West showdown on it, looking forward to it.
Hiro is following Akagi's advice and attempting to improve as a player, he now believes he has the resolve needed to follow the path he wants. His first match is against Ten.

>>157690414
Well, LOGH literally is a book/novel.

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How is kaiji so fucking cute?

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>>157753002
Suffering is moe.

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>>157753002
He's like a lost puppy.

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What the fuck guys I just marathoned this thing and I'm so fucking angry about that ending. What the actual fuck? I was glad he finally won the pachinko game after 100 episodes of fucking agony. Something good finally happened to him. But now this?? I just can't believe it. What did he do to deserve this? Everyone keeps fucking him over but he remains so nice and pure till the end. Truly unbelievable. I am angry boys. I'm off to read the manga now. Will anything good ever happen to him? Please post your moe Kaijis to soothe the pain. Thank you.

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>>157754954
It's a seinen series. No one is allowed to be happy.

>>157754954
why are you angry? kaiji's world needs 70% brain and 30% selfish attitude to survive. he knows that very well but still tries his best to put himself in a disadvantage by rescuing other scumbags. he is also a gambling addict. he is trash, but everyone loves him and the show is great.

>>157754826
No, that would be Karl. Kaiji is doing this to himself. Why would he lose his fucking mind and offer a lottery to the chairman when he already got all the money he needed to repay the debt and start a new life? He's a gambling addict. He's still my waifu though.

>>157755319
I know I know but I just lost my shit when Endo left with his money. I know Kaiji's actions don't make sense but I can't fucking help getting angry cause he kept helping others even in his condition only to get backstabbed. Anyway it certainly was a ride and the soundtrack was pretty awesome.

>>157689342
Watched the whole series 2 times.

>literally the most painful thing i have ever had to watch
Yeah, no shit, Sherlock. Pain is what you're supposed to feel while watching that.

Imagine:

You are nothing, have nothing and you've done nearly everything to get yourself a chance at living a normal life.

How would you feel if you were short of fucking up pretty bad?

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>>157754954
If he ever was to stop getting fucked over the story would end. So he has to be in this infinite cycle of suffering some great win only to get into more despair later. Plus he's a gambling addict, he can't control himself. When he won 300 mil later in the manga he only thought about getting a higher bet.

>>157754954

There is never any happiness and no payoff. Such is the life when you're a dreg of society.

>>157755600
I knew Endo would fuck him over with the 2nd contract since it was signed in such a hurry and when he signed the 1st contract he made such a fuss about being fucked over even in such a situation. That's the thing I liked about the series, it gave you hints and you had to guess what's coming.

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>>157755753
>>157755787
>>157755266
Well fuck. Anyway, I'll have to accept the harsh reality. But it's not like I won't enjoy reading numerous chapters of Kaiji suffering and crying.
>>157755865
You are right now that you say it. I completely overlooked that part.

>>157754954
He got off pretty good with 100 000 yen left and his friends saved (plus one). Endo did fuck with him but it wasn't so bad and he also invested a lot in the plan so why not.

The bad things actually start now

>>157689342
The thing that irritated me about Kaiji was the crowd noise, that "sha sha sha" sound that's supposed to be people talking under the breath or something.

>>157756237
I guess there was no saving him either way, cause even if he got all his money he would waste it in no time, but it still was frustrating.

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>>157756696
That's Kaiji for you.

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>>157756755
True

>>157689793
>just saiyan
>sweet summer child

Not even reddit would tolerate you