What pisses you off most about manga?

Japan's fear of experimentation and their mindset to instead copy what's popular but add a small tweak to make it seem original which goes on until someone or something breaks the mold and is super succesful which then makes everyone just follow that.

>>157651433
The fact that I won't go in a coma for 30 years and then wake up to read a lot of good new series

/a/

That they're great when you binge them but turn to crap if you follow them as they release

>>157651546
More like the disgusting part of /a/ that comes into the threads once the anime starts airing. I fucking wish we had a separate board for manga & LNs/WNs.

Not every series is completed yet. Too much good shit that's still being published.

It's not updated

>>157651433
That like 90% turn to shit halfway

>>157651433
That some lazy artists go on hiatus instead of cancelling the whole manga because it is clearly that they don't want to work on it anymore.

Whenever an evil character usually which isn't the main antagonist does a karma houdini and gets off scott free from being a total dick, usually to women.

>>157651433
That there are so many good ones that will not get animated.

>>157651625
This

>>157651489
Came here to post this, at least specifically in the context of "comedy" 4komas and such. It's all the exact same unfunny, rehashed, sexy but no sex allowed trash. Bkub is pretty much the only one I can stomach anymore and that's because of the sheer originality and unpredictability even when it isn't funny.

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>>157651433
>characters shouting moves/techniques as they do them
>muh friendship/muh edge is what gives protag super powers
>OP cardboard cutout Isekai/fantasy protagonists with bullshit "cheat" powers
>it's another copy pasta of commercially successful generic formulas episode
>entertaining series gets cancelled and has rushed ending because Japan has shit tastes

>>157652115
poptepipic is the only 4koma i want to see animated

>>157652357
Were getting our wish soon, very soon. Fans of the super cute bunny, too.
Not to jinx it, but this ought to be a pretty good year.

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>>157652545
Forgot pic

The fact that unlike LNs, they almost always cuck out of stuff like incest and actual harem endings. LNs and even some anime push the boundaries and often actually go through with what they set up, while I am constantly disappointed at manga backtracking everything with only a tiny handful of notable exceptions. Shit, even fucking To LOVE-Ru pussied out from the harem ending. I also hate how manga often go on hiatus or have shitty scanlators that fall behind or drop the series. Then on top of that there's the infamous trend of series being drawn out without really doing much then suddenly wrapping up in the most aggravating way in 2-3 chapters when the series is axed.

>>157651489
> fear of experimentation

There is much less than in comics.

>>157651625
If you cannot take banter, you do not belong here

Pandering/Baiting.
I like some good old Fan-service, but putting boobs on the cover just to get more popular is annoying(e.g. Fairy tail)
>>157651433
Suprisingly good thread up till now.

That I just can't get enough and I will never live long enough to savor every flavors it has to offer.

>>157651433
Endings. They just can't end series correctly.

>>157652760
I'm more glad that manga even allows stuff to be pandering. Versus the shitstorm you get out of comics these days

I can't think of anything that applies to all of the manga industry, but I guess one thing i hate alot is the need for manga to immediately pop or risk cancellation some stories need time to develop their characters and world before things can get rolling, it sometimes seems like everything has to be rushed now

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The fact that there are some series which were huge when they were running but still have no scanlations.

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Lazy artists who draw like they don't give a shit. Pic related is the first Touhou manga. It looks so bad you'd be forgiven for thinking half the pages are some sort of early sketch instead of the real product.

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>That smile....I want to protect that smile

General cringe dialogue followed by a lack of believable characters with real-life human traits.

However, when they try to convey a human like character they tend to over-exaggerate certain strengths, so they end up inadvertently making a mary sue, or they over-exaggerate flaws and end up making this abomination (pic). I know it's an animated movie and not manga, and perfect blue is generally really good, but It would've added to the thriller if the stalker was a completely normal looking guy that the main character couldn't possibly pinpoint on looks alone.

>>157652739
Kill yourself. Animeonly faggots are cancer and every fucking manga has its threads temporarily ruined by a mob of retards like yourself who discuss seasonal garbage.

>>157652150
>Spoiler

I felt that when i was reading star light woman

>>157653614
what do you mean by "seasonal garbage"
- not guy your arguing with, but you don't like one-offs? some of them are great, no?

>>157654014
>one-offs
that doesn't describe most seasonal anime though, is there anything even airing right now that isn't based on something else?

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when the threads are once and week and comfy, until the anime airs and it attracts a bunch of filthy secondaries that turn my once comfy threads into several-daily waifu wars/shitposting/blogging threads

>>157651433
That there are like 20 golden weeks every year.

>>157652925
And this.

>>157654195
i don't know, but I have a whole MAL catalog of stuff for when I can't find anything new and interesting. Old series you haven't watched can be better than always looking for the latest stuff. I can link you if you want

stuff like this helps me: http://www.imdb.com/list/ls057577566/

there are too many good anime for one person to watch imo, but i agree that the boards more often than not post some dumb shit

The "main girl" is always the most boring one. Absolutely shit tier in girls and shipping in general.

>>157654674
You might just have shit taste.

>>157654576
I also browse TV Tropes sometimes and if you find something interesting you can scroll and find movies, shows, games, books you never heard of that have really interesting characters and plot points.

misunderstandings

>>157651433
You wait a whole week and get about 4 minutes of content.

>>157651433
The animation is so slow!

>>157651433
Weekly release schedule + popularity polls deciding whether the series will be continued or not are cancer when combined together. It creates shit paced so fast you have no fucking idea what's going on because every fucking flashy thing needs to be shown in at most first 3 chapters or you're getting kicked out of serialization. It also creates cookie cutters to the point where you can no longer tell shounen series apart.

>>157651433
>last update 3000 days ago
>harem

As with anime 5% is gold, 10% is watchable, 85% objective garbage. It's a lot like Steam in that regard, the garbage is so prevalent that it deters me from trying anything without a recommendation.

Long term Hiatuses. Like for fuck sakes if you manga has been in production hell for more than 2 years just pull the fucking plug and so the fans could have some sense of closure you selfish bastard.

>>157655290
Doesn't the serial own the rights to your manga for X number of years? I don't think you can cancel a series you don't own.

Whern people post bad fan art with bad coloring before the chapter.

Why they do that ?

When the attacks aren't well defined and melt into the background.

>>157651433
Girls that enter the bath and beat up boys for accidentally seeing them naked.

the fact that every site names each page and each series slightly differently so I have to spend time bulk renaming everything so it works properly on my ereader

>>157655702
this, definitely this

>>157655702
Just use shitty online readers like mangarock like everyone else.

>>157655702
scanlators should try this:
https://github.com/Daiz/manga-naming-scheme
>inb4 daiz
whatever, it's still a good idea

>>157651625
This.
Miazaki was right.

>>157651433
My fear that the translation I'm reading isn't accurate. Or worse the translation sounds better and what is actually being said is lame in comparison.

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>>157654238
I still remember the time where MonMus threads where unofficially the crowned the most comfy threads on /a/.

>>157651605
This
Fuck keeping up with series
I would rather wait 5 years for them to end than to read each chapter alone

Turning the page and seeing the left page before the right and sucking all suspense, tension, or surprise straight out of the right page.

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The fact no one ever seems to want to do color.
I mean yeah sometimes a bad job can ruin fine art but that's not often especially compared to how amazing some good color can make a splash page.

>>157655751
ereader is for reading in comfy bed silly

>>157653492
>It would've added to the thriller if the stalker was a completely normal looking guy that the main character couldn't possibly pinpoint on looks alone.
But the REAL stalker WAS completely normal. Added to the fact that she was her manager it's completely fucked up. That guys was just a tool

>>157656731
>The fact no one ever seems to want to do color.
I this is more a of how they choose to present the medium rather than they not wanting to do it.
Also the fact that drawing manga is completely done at neck breaking speed by a small team.

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>>157655702
Why are you not simply having them in CBR/CBZ format?
Then all you have to worry about is the name and a decent CBR reader like CDisplay or PerfectView

>>157656941
Yeah I guess speed is an issue.

>>157651433
When the scanlators needlessly bloat their releases by saving grayscale images in 24bpp unoptimized PNGs

>people only reading generic mainstream manga and then complaining that manga is too generic

>>157651433
People tend to shit on anime for being advertisements but manga endings are a lot worse. They either go on for too long or get axed.
That and boring paneling. A lot of manga tend to have safe, dull panels.

>LN anime has a good and strong premise for episodes 1 and 2
Neat!
>first major arc introduces secondary characters, or remaining main characters
4 fine episodes, I'm okay with this.
>rest of the 8+ episodes are holding-pattern shit fluff that does nothing with an initially good premise, and the opportunity for a strong 12-episode series is wasted on harem, lolrandumb, and status quo

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Battle/sports shonen manga that insist on pausing the action to explain every single move the characters make in unnecessary detail.

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>>157651433
>discover a manga that you adore
>hasn't been actively translated in 2+ years

As for things about manga itself I hate harems with more than three girls, romances with no actual romance, and school settings with overly-aggressive and/or sadistic bullies.

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The fact that it's coming out so slowly. Yes, I understand that drawing takes time. But I can literally read a series that was coming out for a decade in a day or two.
I can find a cool manga, read most of it in a day, and then have to wait years for chapters to slowly trickle in. It's just horrible.

>>157657808
Fucking Uchuu Kyoudai reminds me of this shit.
>biweekly schedule
>manga already has an agonizingly slow pace
>literally takes months for anything to happen

right to left

moe

>>157651433
Shitty editors

>>157657879
The worst is when it's stuck on some long, drawn out arc that everyone hates. Like with Prison School recently. At least that one is over.

>>157651433
Axe, shit art, slow, dead authors

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This expression. It's now ruined two manga I was following.

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>Author dies without leaving transcripts right before the most interesting arc of the series
>When manga is adapted into anime
>Exposition dumps, pages full of words words words
One Piece is near unreadable because of this, every page is a fucking book or repeating exposition
>The whole shitscene that is scanalations and scans
>Golgo 13 will never be translated

>>157657879
>>157657808
God help you guys if you ever get into webcomics and their 1-3 pages a week, if updating at all.

reviving characters or making good death scenes only for them to somehow survive (Pell for example)

rather have an anime with 0 deaths than any of these

>>157651433
>What pisses you off most about manga?

Great and interesting stories, amazing ideas, and fantastic art, ruined by rampant, out-of-place fetishism.

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>>157658191
Webcomics exist only to perish. Their purpose is found in their demise.

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>>157657939
Do we even have non-shitty editors?

>>157651433
i don't know Japanese

what manga i can read is depend on the translator taste

>>157651433
The fact that it's all in black and white and backwards

>>157651433
The fact that I hate trouble following up with fight scenes and onomatopoeia.

telling apart characters in 20+ character casts when everyone looks the same. DAMN YOU ZIPZANG

>>157651433
All of it is in japanese.

>>157659213
I took 7 years of Japanese classes and I barely know shit. I know enough to read sound effects, and understand context better, and it really helps a lot. It's embarrassing that I can't even follow a simple conversation after 7 years of classes, though.

>>157655702
can't you read them in a normal image viewer?

>>157652948
this fucking sameface though.

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>long running series
>newer chapters are translated
>early chapters are not

>>157651963
Fuck you and fuck anime. Just read the manga, you stupid faggot.

>>157655335

Thats wrong, the serials own the initial publishing rights but they never own the series itself.

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>>157651433
>Most of the good shit is untranslated
>Good shit that gets translated gets translated poorly and/or has shit quality scans
>Managaka are flaky as fuck sometimes and go on indefinite hiatuses, quit, get fired, die, or get distracted playing video games and never update their manga

That it's not anime.

So many good manga series out there, and most of the ones that have been "turned" into anime have sucked balls compared to the manga.

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>>157651433
>It's a episode where the author devotes entire chapters to edgelord philosophy literally being spouted by middle schoolers.
>It's a suspenseful and tense manga has an ending that ruins the entire thing where nobody actually died and takes away all the interesting mystery episode
>It's an episode where the author shoves in their fetish
>It's an hiatus episode.

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>>157660495
>>It's an episode where the author shoves in their fetish
>it's your fetish too

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>>157657736
>discover an anime that seems right up your alley
>no scans or torrents available.

Also I have to second the sadistic bullies. I mean jesus fuck, I can see a bully hitting or insulting someone but did you have to have the bullies rape the kid with testtubes sweet crispy fuck.

>>157661010
>anime

Gomen, you know what I meant.

>>157661010
Which manga is that picture from?

>>157661135
Boku no As109.

I just dislike the fact that some of the best will never get an anime worthy of them.

>>157651433
authors afraid to branch out of generic shit because otaku won't buy the manga otherwise

>>157651433
When garbage groups insist on translating sound effects and the end result is something awkward like "STEP STEP STEP"

>>157651433
Not a ton honestly, I've almost entirely stopped watching anime because I just find manga to be that much better.

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A boring final arc and/or ending.

>>157651433
That they almost never have a satisfying ending - either they get cancelled halfway through or they get dragged out and milked for ages, ruining the story.

>>157651433
Honestly, when it never ends. On a second note, it also piss me off when people stop scanlating/translating, fuck that people.

>>157651489
That's in every medium to some extent

>>157662520
Scanlating is a pain in the ass and people do it for free, you should be grateful that you get anything at all.

>>157654674
Harems in general are trash. They usually end up having only a few actual characters with several of the girls just being a prop to show off a archtype/fetish.

Exceptions to this exist of course.

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>>157662686
>people do it for free

That's their fucking problem, then. If you're good at something, don't do it for free.

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>>157659654
Very. Like jesus, I can practically follow along simple conversations in Anime just because I've watched some and did minor studying.

Most likely, if you actually sat down and went through everything thoroughly, you'd pick it up pretty fast. Either that or you're autistic.

>>157662686
I understand a small group dropping something because they either don't have the free time or they've lost interest in the manga.

But don't come here saying stupid shit like "they do it for free" do you /really/ think the bigger groups like mangastream don't make money off of their scanlations? Like, honestly?

>>157651433
The lack of discussion about most them.

>>157662906
Okay, but the point is that the vast majority of scanlators make nothing for their work. Even for groups like Mangastream I doubt they're getting a whole lot.

>>157663168
>but the point is that the vast majority of scanlators make nothing for their work
Fair point.

>Even for groups like Mangastream I doubt they're getting a whole lot.
You're very likely wrong about this.

>>157652739
>Banter
Being a real life frodo that can't follow basic structure isn't having banter. It just means you're from south america and can barely understand subs.

>>157657736
>>157661010
>Fireworks blasted on anus
Do they really do this?

>>157651433
The fact illegal sites make tons of add money out of it.
I want to delete niggerfox, niggerstream, niggerpanda, etc.

>>157657879
>pick gantz right when on break before catastrophe
>they didn't kill Kato
>they didn't kill Tae
I wish someone had just warned me

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>>157651489
That describes every industry and field.

Super imposed Japanese otaku cringe culture even when the manga has nothing to do with japan, especially fantasy/isekai stuff.

>>157658185
>One Piece is near unreadable because of this, every page is a fucking book or repeating exposition

Adding to the above, OP is a one man circlejerk
>Gazillions of characters introduced
>They add nothing to the series itself
>Hundreds of episodes later they make a cameo
>"How could you not remember him?"
I already dropped OP but I'm sure for the guy who sold Ussop the glasses will tell a story about how he sold those very glasses to the great pirate Sogeking to some newfag at the end of the series.

>>157660495
>>It's a hiatus fetish episode

>>157662754
>If you're good at something, don't do it for free.
>implying you will pay with real monies for manga
Don't kid yourself

>>157658185
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks One Piece dialogue is nothing special and actually pretty mediocre.

When translators put a link to a wikipedia page as a note when some obscure japanese shit comes up.

>>157666959
When translator explain a pun
>This character is X and what he said is written with the kanji Y which is therefore this is a pun between X & Y

>>157660335
This also applies to webcomics too.

>>157664062
Not that anon but I'd have zero problem with paying the people translating some of my favorite on-going series just to get to read the newest chapters slightly faster.

>>157667915
There are some groups that do take donations. One in particular that seems kinda mythical to me is the WildFang Project. Can't find them anywhere yet they are active

>>157667335
G-Goman. I won't do it again I swear!

TL note: Gomen is the jap word for sorry; go means the opposite of stay; and man is the English word for an adult boy.

>>157651433
Having to read panels right to left. Fucking why

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>>157670062
>Reading right to left
>Some new chucklefuck translation group takes over and flips the pages
>Have to tell myself every page to read the other way
>Switches back as soon as you get used to reading the other way

>>157662906
Profit-hound groups like that mostly scanlate things that have lots of attention and would be picked up by other groups anyway, though.

>>157666959
My favorite is the ancient scans where they cite some random info page that stopped existing a month later.

>>157651489
>Japan's Fear
You mean the entire world's fear? The idea of investment stifles creativity because you want low risk and profitable returns.

Mold Breakers are basically the idiots who took a big scary risk and it turned out fine, even though other idiots do the same and fail.

>>157658428
If your mind perceives fetishism as some kind of pollutant strangle-holding the atmosphere you might want to check your upbringing.

>>157671537
There are always people willing to gamble on the idea of a big pay-day. That's how startups work. Only problem is that in media there's not really the same sort of disruption or profit potential. Even if you make the best anime or manga ever, it probably won't penetrate the market, and the average person will continue to shovel down whatever shit is put in front of their faces. In the end the market only works if the consumer base is invested in the quality of the end product, and sadly that just doesn't seem to be something that happens in entertainment. The people who actually care about quality are so small a base they aren't worth pandering to, and as for everyone else, well you can lead a pleb to kino but you can't make em enjoy it.

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>>157663748
This, this, this.
>Fantasy or alternative universe setting
>militant or combat oriented protagonist faction built around fighting some antagonist
>Organization is literally modeled after the Japanese high school system with the same cultural and social norms occurring between "students" and "faculty".
>The only difference is instead of studying math and science, they're studying how to use magic/robots/monster hunting techniques

Or perhaps a more recent one
>Virtual Reality MMO setting series
>No effort into making the setting actually seem like a videogame
>If there is any effort or rules they fade eventually as characters just mold into what amounts to a fantasy setting
>The only reason it even uses an MMO setting is to allow the caste to be Japanese highschoolers.

Even though Shonen is written for high schoolers, is it really that hard to create relatable characters without blatantly shoving Japanese high school life into it?

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>>157651433
When a series is successful and the author or editor is worried they won't have that kind of success again, so they drag it out for hundreds of chapters over years and years.

20th century boys was great but was such a chore to read at times

>>157653492
Looks Japanese to me