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Is this the most overrated show of 2016?

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Is this the most overrated show of 2016?
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Love it or hate it, but you cannot deny the impact it had on the industry.
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>>157628787

Goes to show what shitty shape the ""industry"" is in.
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It's legitimately the best Isekai in like a decade and some of the episodes were great.
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>>157628909
>It's legitimately the best turd
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Worst protagonist ever. Worst writing of the year. Best trap.

>>157628979

kek
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>>157628909
> Best isekai in a decade
Not even the best of last year tbqh
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>>157628394
It really is. It's not absolute trash, but it has average plot, story and animation. Definitely not worthy of all the attention it got.

Subaru is annoying and Rem has 6 lines for bangs.
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https://youtu.be/IuyxcKsFWhI

This is better than the entire anime.
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>>157628394
its a deconstruction of isekai
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>>157628394
It has a lot of flaws, but no anime feel so impactful since then.
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The whole Rem thing was so rushed in the anime. They actually get together, have2 kids, and grow old in the novels, but when he does of old age he's transported back 50 years, so he knew he chose the wrong option.
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>>157628394
Obviously.
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Outside of /a/, the most underrated anime of 2016 was Hibike Euphonium 2.
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>>157628394

It had a few shining moments. In general, rem saved the show.
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>>157628909
Konosuba, Kemono Friends, and Youjo Senki all aired within the span of one year and they're all better.
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>>157630239
>>157630068
>It's a deconstruction
>but no anime feel so impactful since then
Summer has come early. It's neither a deconstruction nor does it match the impact of other shows/movies that came out in 2016.
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>>157628394
Yeah, but /a/ still loves it because this place has the worst taste in anime out of every board
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>>157628787
What impact did it have? After it ended, everyone packed up and left like with every meme show.
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>>157628787

What fucking impact?
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>>157629081
S2 was much weaker than S1.

Also it is much easier to make a work that is a parody in nature.

Still was pretty good although I wouldn't rate it above Re:Zero.
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>>157630621
>wouldn't rate it above Re:Zero.

That's because your taste is terrible.
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no, sword art online is.
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>>157628394
it was alright until the trapped showed up. noped out of there real fast. no faux females for me
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>>157630998
you can come out of the closet now anon, its 2017
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>>157631038
well i would if i was gay. but im not so...............
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>>157630782

>2016
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>>157628909
>the best Isekai in like a decade
>Ixion Saga DT came out in 2013

You are wrong.
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>>157628394

Overrated? please, you obviously haven't seen Mob psycho or YoI
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>>157632397

The only reason Re: took off was because viewers found out about Rem. She was the shows biggest attraction. Look at the view count from the episodes that featured Rem prominently and you'll know what I'm talking about. The story wasn't as big as an attraction. The character(s) were.
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There is no need to post the same thread every 3 days anon.
http://desuarchive.org/a/search/image/CF377ph3OrggcRkdDG1hOw/
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Probably but overrated ≠ bad
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The most misunderstood show ever. It's so complex, every single scene has to be analysed by professionals, in order to be understood by the low educated masses. It's too deep for the current generation of people, to be honest. Ram was the key to all this, they got her working and she was not simply a write-along character to Rem with implied depth (without actually having any). It's like poetry, every arc feels so different from one another, one must wonder if the creator is a hack/fraud, or actually the smartest writer of the decade. And the villainous cult that utilises "sins" as metric of leadership is something NEVER done before, in dat way, therefore deconstruction. The fact the you see the dead corpse of the main character (a lot), really makes you glad that he suffered due to being an (intentional) airhead, who isn't concerned about to the people that he left back home. So, as I was saying this is a the best anim 2016. I just wish my kids grow up to see the best scene in season 3, where it's revealed that Rem is in a comma and that the doctors won't be able to save her. So then Emilia has to pull the plug, on the life support, but she can't because she is too busy not being an actual character, but a cut-out that any audience member can attach character traits to, so that she can seem D E E P. I bet I'll be dead by then,tho. Shit I might die today from over-watching re:zero. I watched it, like, five hundred times already and I am so glad at times the show's so slow; I can literally go outside, piss on my neighbour's ugly bicycle, go to the convenience store, go into another dimension full of boring characters devoid of souls that look cuter than my highschool crush, Kill-My-Self until the witch that brought me there actually gets angry with me and sends me back to the store. Then buy that delicious jalapeno sauce, go home and then noticed that I haven't missed anything, due to the fact that Subaru fucking died and retconned 3 episodes worth of "development".
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>>157632540
Are you retarded? How would they know if she was going to appear or not?
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>>157633264

The mango is complex, the show is not.
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>>157632397
Mob Psycho isn't overrated at all. And even if it was, at least it deserves it with how excellent the animation quality and characters were.
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>>157628394
>be Re:Zero
>make Rem best girl
>"hurr durr i liek Emilia-chan-sama"

Episode 18 is where this show has ended for me.
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It was popular, and people here don't like things that "normies" like, that's all there is too it.
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No, Flip Floppers is.
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>>157628394
Yes.
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>>157633765
>and characters were.
besides the blonde boss, all the others were just meh or generic. really.
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>>157628787
>Impact
Ya should go to sleep lil mate
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Yuri on Ice and Re:Zero
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People that don't like Subaru are self-insertfags that don't think of themselves as self-insertfags.
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>>157633798
if there's ever another season it'll become the rem and pals show so don't worry
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it's the most overrated anime in history.

>>157628909
I can literally think of ten contradictions to this statement and that's just off the top of my head.
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>>157628394
>most overrated show of 2016
would that not be Yuri on Ice? Faglers pushed its popularity into the stratosphere.
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>>157634722
This
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>>157634545
Why you gotta lie on the internet?
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>>157630422
>Meme Friends
>Good
Come on! The threads were Waaii and Sugoii everywhere and posting of lewd pics. There's nothing in it besides some cute designs.
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>>157633551
You mean the LN or WN. Those are certainly more complex. It's not even worth analyzing the anime, since it simplifies and cuts way too much to fully grasp anything. Reading the source material is almost shocking, with how much the anime failed to portray.

Re:Zero is simply not a good anime, as it simply wasn't written in a manner that makes for a good anime. It's pretty funny how they wasted so much time on the fucking whale fight, when the action is practically the least important part in Re:Zero.
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>>157634884
>I didn't watch the show, so let me base my assumptions on a bunch of autists shitposting on a Botswana mud painting board.
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>>157635065
Oh yeah. Like SAO and DXD, the LNs are always better!
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>>157635093
Muh deep post apocalyptic world. It was just a cheap ad for a shitty mobage.
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>>157635194
The lego movie was an ad for legos. That doesn't mean it wasn't good. Same applies for KF.
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>>157635145
I'm not saying they're great, but they are better. The anime is just missing too many details.
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>>157634824
I mean it's kinda true since she becomes a big reason why Nissan does things.
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>>157635335
But the Lego at least had some more effort and money put in its production. Also, Legos are all about creativity and creating your own world and shit like that, so of course you can make something fantastic out of it, but when you pick something which source was a shitty game in the end of its lifespan, there's not much you can do is there? It's better than idolshit, I'll give you that though.
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>>157635631
Yeah, but that doesn't mean she gets much focus. Rem doesn't even have any friends after Arc 3.
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It's underrated DESU. Give it 10 years and it will probably go down as the best anime of all time.
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>>157628394
I was so happy when Kemono Friends outsold this.
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>>157635917
Well, digibro is a youtube faggot, so his opinions mean nothing to me. I think Re:zero is a brilliant anime, and there is nothing a youtube faggot could say that would convince me otherwise.
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>>157635726
She has one, which I guess puts her higher than most of /a/
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>>157635905
Aside from the first part, the rest of that never happens except in a side story. And the last part never happens at all. As in, he does get together with Rem in the main story, but that only lasts a few minutes before she gets put into a coma by cultists while Subaru's back is turned.
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>>157636092
>anime critics
Wew.
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>>157636263
Turns out we're all anime critics
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>>157628787
ha, they aren't some 60s music group or something. they'll be forgotten in years and only be remembered as fotm trash
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>>157628787
Every time
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>>157628895
>>157630529
>>157630579
>>157634408
>>157636300
>>157636358
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>>157635994
Narcissistic much?
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>>157628394
It's a 6/10. Tries to be different at least, but the characters outside of the main one seemed like poor pasteboards and the setting wasn't very inventive at all.
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>>157635917
He was okay until I saw his retarded KLK vids. And I hate seeing his face.
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>>157636485
>fedora.png
>I-I sure showed them
typical re:fag
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Wtf. Why did this suddenly became youtube "stars" shilling thread? Can't you make some decisions for yourselves?
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>>157636836
Instead of fun craziness it was a postmodern masterpiece with several layers of meaning. I'm all for thoughtful analysis but I feel like Digi just wanted to give a show he splurged over an intellectual edge to make him feel good.
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>>157636987
Ultimately the driving metaphors behind KLK don't actually hold up very well under scrutiny, so you might as well just say its for zaniness.
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>>157628394
>Is this the most overrated show of 2016?
yeah, probably. I still enjoyed it a lot though, it wasn't revolutionary or anything but it was admittedly pretty fun
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>>157628394
That and it showed just how terrible the genre of isekai is. I thought Overlord and Grimgar took the cake but oh dear lord.
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>>157628394
Honestly, I really liked the parts of the show that were just about the characters in the mansion bonding and interacting with each-other. It turned to absolute shit at the fucking whale arc
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>>157630422
>Konoredditsba
>Shitmono friends
>YouTips Fedoraji
All trash compared to Re zero. S2 Konoshitba was especially bad. And you contrarian faggots can deny Re zero's popularity and impact all you want while you watch derivative trash like Re:Creators and Mahou
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>>157637142
That's what I'm saying.
The guy just takes things too serious all around. He doesn't actually say anything original in most his animoo analysis yet he speaks like an impassioned literary critic.
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>>157637284
I actually feel like those were the most important parts of the whole story. The action parts only matter to show how the characters have progressed and to show how they behave under stress. The reset mechanism just lets you see that from multiple angles.

It's really just the character interactions and relationships that matter, and the largest mistake the anime made was not fully realizing this.
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>>157637348
Good fallacy practice. But it's true.
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>>157637506
>It's really just the character interactions and relationships that matter
In a way that's how it works for most LN adaptations isn't it? Since the story shown in the anime almost always is incomplete. That being said, I don't think Re:Zero made that big a mistake. Seeing Subaru finally learn from his own mistakes and actually having a civil conversation with his to-be allies against the white whale and grasping their intentions was pretty good. And it's not like we don't see the other characters interacting with one another either. I actually don't know what's so bad about the white whale arc that made people so mad.
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>>157637944
All of those are the samefag.
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>>157638060
I think its just drawn out. It burned an extra episode it probably shouldn't have that would've been better used elsewhere. Even ignoring obvious things like not doing the correct ending which they could've done, the Royal Selection start would've been better served with another episode so they didn't have to dilute the candidates.
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>>157638060
It took like almost 3 episodes to deal with the whale situation. It was a drag with no character development.
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>>157638060
>I actually don't know what's so bad about the white whale arc that made people so mad.
I don't think it'd be inaccurate to say that at least half the dialogue was cut from what it was in the source material. The basic structure is still there, but it's extremely rushed in a way that changes how the characters and their interactions come across.
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>>157638152
They are still fags and shitposters though.
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>>157638248
>normies
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Why is there suddenly so much youtube eceleb cancer on /a/? Since it's pretty much exclusively talk about one certain faggot I have to assume shilling.
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>>157638248
Do you consider Isekai as a bad genre in general?
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>>157638432
Neck yourself.
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>>157628394
I wouldn't call it overrated. It was pretty good, although it could have been really good with less focus on action and more time spent building the world and characters like in the source material. As an added bonus, it triggered OP so hard that he spent hundreds of hours over the better part of a year fishing for validation of his zealous hatred of a particular congolese rammed earth sculpture. Not too surprising though, this forum probably has the largest concentration of actual clinically diagnosed autists in the world.
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>>157638596
Youtubers aren't /a/ related so I don't really need to argue.
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What's better? Reading the WN or the LN? I know the LN was licensed, so is there still someone doing the translation?
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>>157638727
>I know the LN was licensed, so is there still someone doing the translation?
Nope, at least not the actual thing. There are some translated side stories that are technically part of the LN.
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>>157638727
The YenPress translated volumes so far end right after they kill the dogs in the forest and you can probably find pdfs out there somewhere. After that you'll probably be best off mixing whatever bits have been translated from the LNs/WNs. For post-anime stuff I think your only option is WN translations/summaries.
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>>157635145
>DxD
The LN's are better you dumbass.
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>>157633798

He actually married her in the ln, had kids. When he died at old age he was transferred back 50 years, so he knew he fucked up.
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>>157639537
>reading softcore porn
wew
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>>157638727
Unfortunately, there's no translation for the first few Arcs of the WN, which is a shame because there are some serious differences in characterization between them. I've been putting off finishing Arc 3 of the WN for awhile now, and I haven't read the LN version, but I feel like most people who started reading at Arc 4 of the WN are missing a lot of shit.

The general plot is the same as the anime, so you can still work things out if you continue from where that ended, but there's a lot of shit you'll be missing. You'll have to understand that you're basically missing out on half of the content of Arc 3. The dialogue cuts have a major effect on how characters are perceived.

The anime makes Rem look more passive than she really is, and doesn't fully convey how much Subaru starts to cling to her. To the point where he has a very nasty panic attack, wanting to claw at his brain before losing consciousness, when she says something he could interpret as her not having full and complete faith in him.
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>>157639611
That never happened.
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>>157639633
>To the point where he has a very nasty panic attack, wanting to claw at his brain before losing consciousness, when she says something he could interpret as her not having full and complete faith in him.
neat. I've heard Subaru is a lot scummier in the WN compared to the LN as well.
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It had a lot of great moments, but the way a number of characters practically disappear at some point in the story was really lame
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>>157638596
>arguing with shitposters
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>>157637191

>we'll meet again
>never shows up again
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>>157639706
He's not evil, but you can understand why he didn't have friends. He doesn't seem to have a working filter at all, and there are a lot more anecdotes about stupid shit he did as a kid. He gets jealous a lot more quickly in Arc 2, and that leads to him jumping to rather unsavory conclusions. And since he doesn't know how to shut his mouth, he tells others about them as if they were true.

So, yes. He's definitely more repulsive and less sensitive. The LN makes him look more "charming eccentric", compared to the WN's "obnoxious douche". Still, he starts treating the people around him with more respect at the end of Arc 2, and starts communicating with them better after he stopped imagining that they were all fucking the clown.

Oh, and stopped think of Rem and Ram by their hair colors, or as inferior/superior versions of the other sister. Rem was "Upgraded Ram" in this context, since Subaru always thought she was better than Ram in every way.
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>>157630621
>Also it is much easier to make a work that is a parody in nature.
It's actually harder. To make a good parody you need to make a good product in the genre, and then make a parody out of it. This is something most parodies miss, so you the comedy eats the genre and it becomes too stupid.

Konosuba is first and foremost a good isekai, and then a good parody on top of it.
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>>157640693

Who is this?
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>>157630529
>currently in second re:Zero thread today
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>>157631358
>SAO
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>>157641900
blue ram
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Reminder that everything is just Subaru's coma dream after he got hit by a truck while crossing the road on his way home.
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>>157635726
>Rem doesn't even have any friends after Arc 3.
Crusch will ask her to join her camp after she wakes up.
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>>157639706
They make the "villain" part more blatant, like how he enjoys violence due to previously being a chuuni and that he has a habit of trying to pry info out of people and manipulating them. Like the time he was trying to manipulate Wilhelm who was mourning for his dead wife in arc 3.
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>>157628394
It was never overrated. It's just /a/'s compulsion with shitting on things people enjoy that resulted in so many threads. You overrated it.
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>>157643117
That's not such a major incident. I think his siccing the Leweses on Garfiel is more notable. Though yes, Subaru is supposed to be a schemer.
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>>157635726
Doesnt Rem have Liliana and Crusch? You can also argue the village kids as well as Beatrice but she's more mother figure towards them.
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>>157643167
None of them remember who she is, so Rem officially has no friends after Arc 3.
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>>157643167
>she's more mother figure towards them.
Rem? Mother figure? What? No! They never say they want Rem to be their mom. Also Beatrice has a Mom already.
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>>157643413
Echidna does not count as a mom, she needs a roper mom. Like the one who habitually washes her sheets hen she wets the bed or the one who runs around the mansion trying to give her porridge when she gets a gold or forcefeeds her and tells her to clean her room.
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>>157643040
good lore actually
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>>157643505
>or the one who runs around the mansion trying to give her porridge when she gets a cold
Wait, did this happen?
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>>157643639
Pretty sure Subaru mentions it in the "Some like it cold" chapter.
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>>157628394
Fuck off /a/. It was fun and Toyota was interesting. Apparently the LNs and WNs are even better.
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>>157643737
Well then, I guess that's all right. I wouldn't call her a psuedo-mother figure for anyone in particular, aside from Subaru, but she has a lot of potential in that role if she interacted with others more and grew closer to them.
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Nobody cares about reddit:zero anymore.
Just accept it faggot and move on, don't become a madoturd.
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>>157628394
>About to say Mahouka
>Realize it aired in 2014
>2014 was 3 years ago
Jesus christ, the ride never ends
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Re:Zero is popcorn anime, like the latest capeshit film.
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>>157644052
So many shows. Feels like watching them yesterday, yet it was years ago.
Is this how old people feel? I'm not even 30 yet its not meant to be like this.
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>>157628394
Definitely. Also rem the most overrated waifubait in years.
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I liked that episode where Ryan Heart shitfucks an entire village with Excalibur, yet he couldn't kill Lust.
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>>157637303
putting reddit or shit or tipsfedora in the title of the show you hate is not an argument, neither is calling anyone who disagrees with you a contrarian faggot.
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>>157644314
He didn't use Excalibur on her, and not dying is basically her super power, she's more or less some kind of zombie/vampire.
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Only good thing about this series was the Wise Magical Negro.
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>>157643950
I'm rather sad that Petra forgot about Rem, I wonder how Petra will act towards her if Rem ever comes back since she already is attracted to the potato and has the feeling of being safe around her.

>>157644334
How nice of you to be stupid enough to be baited by shitposter-kun, since he too was the one who made this thread and the first post of it.
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>>157644314
Her name is Girlverine.
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>>157633309
Rewarching episodes probably
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>>157633309
Because the source material is a thing
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>>157642013

Who?
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>>157647088
The blue version of RAM
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>>157647647

I've never seem her.
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soon
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>>157636657
>>157644210
>>157629199
100% These
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>>157648682
Waifubait.
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>>157649260
best girl
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>>157628394
you mean fag on ice
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>>157649311
You only like it because it lusts Subaru's dick.
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>>157649370
You only dislike it because it's more popular than your fav girl
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>>157630529
yeah man those advertisements of re:zero figurines on the front page dont exist
the constant threads dont exist

are you forgetting it starting airing over a fucking year ago and it STILL has threads up unlike your shit favorite anime?
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>>157649395
No, I dislike it because it's such an obvious waifubait and people keep denying it.
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>>157649433
>She likes the MC for very good reasons and I hate girls who like the MC!!!
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>>157649472
She became a mindless sexdoll and everything about her now revolves around the MC's dick.
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>>157649552
damn, this joke was so bad that u need gluttony to eat it
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>>157649552
lol no
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>>157649552
Even if you're an AOP that's patently wrong.
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>>157649552
ugh, I thought you were dumb but serious before, thanks for wasting my time
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>>157649566
>>157649574
>>157649576
>>157649580
Rem is a waifubait. People only like her because she is ready to die for the MC after having known him 2 months. Discussions about her are
>OMG WHEN SHE WAKES UP SHE AND SUBS GONNA FUCK SO HARD, LIKE ONIS"!
or
>LMAO how long do she stare at Subs when he sleeps best GURL!!
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>>157648682
This is the one where Subaru pulls her down onto his bed and sleeps with her right?
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>>157649676
>people only like her because of her admirable traits
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>>157649676
thanks for spouting nonsense so far, u even make my joke seem more serious than what u said
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>>157649730
Waifubait traits.
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>>157649676
>completely ignoring the traits shown when she was killing subaru to defend her family
>her ability to care for children
>her power

come on lad im not even digging that deep into things but you need to learn how to read a fucking book
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>I-I SWEAR REM IS NOT A WAIFUBAIT
>SHE LIKES SUBS THAT'S ALL!!
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>>157649739
>it's bad to like girls who would make good wives
Oh I was talking to a tumblr feminist all along.
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>>157649676
Sure there are discussions about Subaru and Rem acting like a couple, this is a romance series after-all, but to say that all let alone even 1/4th of the discussions revolving around her are like that you clearly have not read the story or the threads. That's like saying all of Subaru is husbandobait due to how he solely treats Rem.
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>>157649739
so basically every girl who likes the MC is waifubait? how it comes only Rem is that popular?
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>>157649775
Waifubaits make great wives.
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>>157649676
>she is ready to die for the MC after having known him 2 months
Imagine that, intense feelings for another person will push you to irrationality.
>OMG WHEN SHE WAKES UP SHE AND SUBS GONNA FUCK SO HARD, LIKE ONIS"!
Yes, usually, romantic relationships get to that level and that's where most people want it to go, and towards making children. The "headpats and handholds are lewd" are just memes, anon, human beings and characters made by human beings tend to wish for the same thing.
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>>157649801
that makes them waifus without bait
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so subaru is also waifubait because he dies for other people too?

is kamina also a waifubait?
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>>157649837
yep, every character that is generally liked is waifubait
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>>157649837
Pft, hey, didn't you know, FAN SERVICE is made out of two words, FAN and SERVICE.

When you SERVICE the FAN in ANY WAY, that means you are giving him FANSERVICE.
And since FANSERVICE is EVIL, that means EVERYTHING THAT IS FANSERVICE (Everything, basically) is EVIL.
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>>157649788
In ReZero only Rem likes the MC romantically, and it's taken to disgusting waifubait levels so there is no competition so she became that popular.
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>>157649686
yes but I'm more excited about her trashtalk with Beako and Emilia
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>Rem is not a waifubait
I love this meme.
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>>157649936
If anyone made her to look like a waifubait, its the fandom..nothing else
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>>157649936
cheap excuse for why your waifu is not popular, try again
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>>157649966
>implying that waifubait is not a meme in itself
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>>157649936
>In ReZero only Rem likes the MC romantically
Emilia might not know what love is but that does not mean that she does not have feelings of affection (romantically) for Subaru.
> and it's taken to disgusting waifubait levels
No such thing, her love is pretty normal.
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Had to drop ReeeZero after the blue bitch started to suck Subaru's dick.
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>>157649936
>literally every character in every romance/harem show
how comes they are nowhere near as popular as Rem?
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>>157650045
Nice meme
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>>157650073
>literally every character in every romance/harem show
Harems have multiple people lusting the MC's dick, so their popularity is divided.
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>>157650045
>blue bitch started to suck Subaru's dick.
She wishes
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>>157650136
Of course she does, she a waifubait after all.
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>>157650128
that doesn't explain the other romance shows, also Emilia/Petra/Satella are also lusting for the MC's dick but they aren't popular
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The amount of memes here is increasing as it seems
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>>157639659
It did, but it was an alt reality story.
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>Rem ready to die for the MC after having known him for 2 months
>Says she believes she was born for the moment where she jumps out of the carriage to go against the Whale and dies
>Not a waifubait
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>>157650220
It's an IF story. IF stories are non canon "What if" situations. It didn't happen.
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>>157650237
She's actually insane if you didn't notice. Her and her sister both are fucked in the head and basically crazy yanderes with little to no self worth.
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>>157650237
>2 months not enough time to fall for someone!
>Subaru dies for Emilia/Rem after a couple days
just listen to yourself
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>>157650237
What is anime without waifubait?
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>>157650271
Good anime.
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>>157650268
Being a 4ever alone makes them say that I guess
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>>157650291
Is there any point in baiting for the purpose of only getting replies that tell you you're baiting?

If at least you were subtle about it, you wouldn't be a punching bag. Are you a masochist?
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>>157650136

they actually get together and have kids in the LN
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>>157650343
Nope.
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>>157650324
he's been doing it for several months, so you can guess what type of person he is in rl
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>>157650371
>>157650343
WN lads
every year on rem's birthday theres a new chapter and its on off-shoot
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>>157650371

yep

they get married and have two kids

he dies of old age and returns 50 years and realizes what he did wasn't right and makes that scene with rem 100x more awkward - but at least spells out a reason he declines unlike the fucking anime
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>>157650343
>>157650383
It's a non canon what if situation and Tappei is doing it because he is not planning Rem to have a happy end with Subaru.
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>>157649785
I mean
>Saved his money to design and construct a wheelchair to bring her outside
>Loses sleep visiting her every night to talk to her
>Constantly trying to find ways to help her solve her emotional and psychological problems
>Showers her with presents, praise, cuddle sessions to the point that he is almost always in her beck and call
>Trying to find new ways to become a better man for her sake
>Has literal panic attacks when there is something that implies she doesn't have faith in him

Subaru is husbandobait by his logic
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>>157650391
>TFW when a meme is dropped harder than a rock
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>>157650391
how many tries until you got it, scriptkiddy?
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>>157650428
>non canon what if situation

It isn't. It happens just at the point where Subaru tells Rem they should run away. It happens, lasts 50 years and doesn't work out.
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>>157650343
Only in an IF story that isn't canon. Canon Rem isn't going to be sucking anything anytime soon.
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>>157650468
NOT WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
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>>157650466
>lasts 50 years and doesn't work out.
where did that come from?
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>>157650427
>but at least spells out a reason he declines unlike the fucking anime
She declines you retard. The IF is predicated on Rem doing something she wouldn't do for reasons she clearly explained.
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>>157650391
Ruined it like day after, what an incompetent little shit
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>>157650502
His butthole. He's probably jumping at random morons who say he RbDs like the IF story ended at some point, which it hasn't.
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>>157650502
Where does it keep on coming from?!
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>>157650427
Huh? Where are you getting this bullshit from? I've read the novel chapters and I have not seen an inkling of any of this happening, its just Subaru deems himself incompetent and unworthy to have a woman like Rem. Hence the whole "I love Emilia" thing. Which kind of doesn't matter now since they already confessed to each other twice and their affection for each other has gotten so obvious that Ferris thought Subaru and Rem fucked already.
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>>157650503
Let's not forget that we still don't know if Echidna is right or wrong, and that's probably because we don't want Subs to end up as a potato.
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>>157650436
>All of this plus is inherently a good at raising or taking care of children
Have we found the real best girl?
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>>157650573
Echidna essentially can't be right. The reason she said that to Subaru was to terrify him, and it worked, both he and her understood the ramifications of that. From an in-universe standpoint he must operate as if that was not the case even if it is and from a narrative standpoint if it is the case then things become rather pointless rather quickly, which is why he has to operate as if that isn't how it works.

As a side note, Satella doesn't appear to travel with him and due to her nature it doesn't make sense to pass him off to anybody, even other versions of herself, so it seems unlikely that would be how something she is doing operates.
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>>157650674
With how well he cross-dresses he might as well be
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>>157650674
>He didn't know it was about the boys all along
It's Otto
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>>157650774
>Echidna essentially can't be right.
And you supposedly proved this with a bunch of non sequiturs...
>so it seems unlikely that would be how something she is doing operates.
How do you know she travels with him? We haven't been shown or told.
And if he's jumping from his own body to another one of his own body, why couldn't she do the same?
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>>157650917
Because she resets along with everything else, its why she doesn't stay pissed when he comes back. Also you're a retard if you think that's a non-sequitur, it was literally the point of an entire chapter.
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>>157650428
>mfw there is probably going to be no happy ending for anyone in this series

Damn you third trial for ruining my hopes and dreams
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>>157651035
echidna said it could possible happen or any of those scenes will never happen. the only possible bad end is for emilia with how things are going. i am still convinced of a time travel to the past plot device.
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>>157651035
Each of the scenes in the third trial are likely to show up at some point, but most of them aren't likely to stick. Its sort of the nature of the series.
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>>157650428
>[Rem: The sword demon love song is a total of five acts. I of course love the ending 5th act, but I can’t miss out on listening to tomorrow’s 3rd act, too. I’ll finish my work and run over, no matter what.
>[Subaru: Rem, you really love this. As of now, I’m not so absorbed in Liliana’s song that it overwhelms me, but if I listen to it until the end, then my thoughts might change.]
>[Rem: Yes, they sure will. The sword demon’s way of life is the ideal way for many men and women, even today. Subaru-kun, please come and see me someday just like in the sword demon love song.]
>[Subaru: If the spoilers I heard were true, then wouldn’t that mean Rem and I would kill each other in the end?]

I await the fated and tragic day.
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>>157651166
>Fifth act is when Wilhelm is forced to kill his wife in the WN
>Third act is when Rem gets erased from existence

Final act or arc will become the arc where Subaru and Rem are forced to kill each other
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>>157651166
>If the spoilers I heard were true
they weren't true though
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>>157650997
>Also you're a retard if you think that's a non-sequitur, it was literally the point of an entire chapter.
Don't try to put the blame on Tappei for not understanding that your argument is a non sequitur and that it can't be used against Echidna, albeit Echidna has no evidence herself.

Even if what you said right after is true, it does not mean that different dimensions cannot be a thing in Re:Zero, because it doesn't prove that, hence why it's a non sequitur.

The only argument you have is that Satella might not want to pass him to other versions of herself, but does she see her past version as anything but another version of herself?
Also, why won't she travel with him?
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>>157651228
This is probably the most believable crack theory I've seen to date
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is it true emilia cut her hair? but why? when did this happen?
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>>157651254
>Don't try to put the blame on Tappei for not understanding that your argument is a non sequitur and that it can't be used against Echidna
>Hurr durr don't use the argument the author put in the story itself for why it needs to not work that way and don't blame him for writing it
You're literally retarded. Narratively, for meta reasons, it needs to not work that way. Echidna specifically brought it up to scare the shit out of Subaru and fuck him up. If it does work that way SUBARU HIMSELF says everything he is doing is pointless, and as such, even if it does work that way, he cannot act as if it does, or he would break or go insane.

>Also, why won't she travel with him?
Because she doesn't. Whether that's something she wants or a limitation of whatever she's doing to make RbD work is unknown but not particularly relevant.
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>>157651697
Another IF. When Subaru accepts Echidna's deal he becomes a complete fuckass and basically mindbreaks Emilia, who becomes more or less a broken doll. In order to try and get his attention that she desperately craves she cuts her hair short so she looks more like the potato that he seems to spend a fair amount of time with.
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>>157651228
You can say the 3rd and 5th act is where the Wilhelm and Theresia romance gets focus, the third being the White whale and Wilhelm and the 5th and supposedly final act is when Wilhelm was forced to kill his beloved. If there is going to be a reflection or mirror of those two Subaru is going to definitely get revenge on Ley, aka. Baitenkaitos, aka, "Belly of the Whale" and turning him into flesh paste only to be forced to kill Rem due to her being corrupted or something like how Theresia was.
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>>157651732
>Narratively
Not an argument then.
>If it does work that way SUBARU HIMSELF says everything he is doing is pointless
Yes, but he doesn't know, hence why I've even said this myself, we don't want Subs to end as a potato, that does not mean that we don't have a "Nasuverse" at hand, despite Echidna only voicing her theories.
>and as such, even if it does work that way, he cannot act as if it does, or he would break or go insane.
That doesn't matter at all to my argument either, which is why I mentioned it myself.
I was aiming for the IFs to be canon.
>Because she doesn't.
Not an argument. You don't know if she does or not.
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>a year later people are still mad
Everything else in it's season was lackluster, it rose to the top simply because their wasn't anything as interesting on.
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>>157651861
Mad about what?
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>>157651839
Then you might as well stop reading the series, because you think its pointless.

>Not an argument. You don't know if she does or not.
Literally stated that she doesn't fuckass.
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>>157630249
>an entire life wiped away in an instant
True suffering.
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>>157651921
>Then you might as well stop reading the series, because you think its pointless.
No? Even if we know what Subaru is doing is pointless because he's leaving mountains of bodies behind, it wouldn't matter as long as Subaru doesn't know it.

Hence why no one made a statement of truth in the series.
>Literally stated that she doesn't fuckass.
You stating something does not make it true though.
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>>157651922
Also fake spoilers.
>>157650554
Also while Rem got erased it was most likely due to how she acts like Satella repellent.
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>>157651965
Right, so another retard who never read the story talking based on hearsay they pick up in threads to talk shit and be dumb as fuck.
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>>157652010
Right, that's why you don't have an argument whatsoever.
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>>157652080
not him but please stop it. you are a serious waste of time
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>>157651803
I'd rather not have something like that happen to those two like how Wilhelm and Thearesia there has to be a silver lining for them somewhere
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>>157652107
>"THIS MATTER IS SETTLED"
>Here's how it's not
>"B-BUT MUH HEADCANON"
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>>157652172
That's a different guy retard, and you've presented literally nothing BUT headcanon. You have no sources, no chapters, no quotes, no facts. Probably because you haven't read shit because it is made abundantly clear that Satella does not go back with him and is reset like every fucking thing else. There is half a chapter devoted to explaining exactly this. There is also a chapter devoted to explaining why the world cannot work the way Echidna conjectures it to, conjecturing mind you, with the express purpose of unnerving Subaru when she could know exactly how it works if she so chooses.
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>>157650436
Is Subaru whipped? He sounds whipped.
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>>157652172
>HEADCANON
try again after reading the story anon. not going to take you seriously no matter how hard you try
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>>157652333
He's pretty whipped.
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>>157652333
Whipped to an extent

Subaru has shown to do his fair share whenever Rem too does something stupid
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>>157652267
>That's a different guy retard, and you've presented literally nothing BUT headcanon.
Are you retarded? I said that the theory could be true, you don't deny a possibility because of lack of evidence.
>You have no sources, no chapters, no quotes, no facts.
No, I truly don't have any quotes or chapters, I'm not that autistic to catalogue a WN I read like you are.
But I do have my facts and sources, one of these facts is that different dimensions are still a possibility, which Echidna hypothesized but never said it's true, hence why it remained in the air.
The source is clearly the WN.
>because you haven't read shit because it is made abundantly clear that Satella does not go back with him and is reset like every fucking thing else.
Where? There's no chapter saying that she does not go back or saying that she does.
There's nothing proving that she can go back or not go back.
You also don't know her mental state when Subaru goes back or not, you just assumed it, that's all.
>There is half a chapter devoted to explaining exactly this.
None of the chapters are devoted to this.
>There is also a chapter devoted to explaining why the world cannot work the way Echidna conjectures it to
That chapter did not explain that it's impossible, that chapter simply explained that they don't know.
>>157652341
None of you seem to have read the WN, it seems.
Most likely AO only's here trying hard to look otherwise.
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When the fuck is season 2?
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>>157650201
Petra and Satella have some iffy stuff about them though. Petra due to how her love for Subaru was divided between Rem and him and due to memory fuckery she started liking Subaru then there's Satella is probably lusting for the cock of multiple people, or just Fugel.
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>>157652402
>None of the chapters are devoted to this.
Chapter 52 literally is you stupid fucking retard.

>That chapter did not explain that it's impossible, that chapter simply explained that they don't know.
I've never said it was impossible you stupid fuck, I said it NEEDS to not work that way, for a vast numbers of reasons. And that it probably does NOT work that way for other reasons. Your claim that it has to work the way Echidna conjectured it to based on literally nothing, merely that they don't explicitly say it doesn't, which is the scheme of a manipulative psychopath. You might as well argue that Priscilla is a magical unicorn because there's nothing that explicitly says she isn't.
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>>157653423
>Chapter 52
No, it's not.
>I said it NEEDS to not work that way, for a vast numbers of reasons.
All of them that I just debunked.
>And that it probably does NOT work that way for other reasons.
Without reasons, your claim is not based on facts.
>Your claim that it has to work the way
Never claimed it has to work that way, I said it's a possibility, you retard.
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>>157653521
Hilarious, can even spoon feed you an exact chapter and you won't read it, not like you did before which is why you didn't know about it. Color me surprised. Well this sure has been fun, but seriously where do you idiots come from? You come into threads for a series you've never seen or watched and spew half-remembered bullshit you've seen other people say maybe once for hours.
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>>157653691
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>>157653693
Sorry, but you must be retarded. Chapter 52 does not prove anything you said.
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Is Ram the only one who's seen Subaru's dick so far?
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>>157653693
This is entirely unrelated to your discussion but you're comment reminded me how much I dislike that trend where people do exactly what you're describing. Or make excessively confident/stupid claims off incredibly sparse information (like "<blah blah blah making argument here>, which makes sense because Subaru is Flugel"). For some reason it's really prevalent.
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>>157653980
Stelly is always watching
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>>157649423
>because a bunch of guys keep calling re zero shit on /a/ it means it had an impact on the industry

Cocksucker.
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Satella probably peeps on Subaru every time he takes a bath because she's such a naughty girl.

Oh, I can just imagine her saying "Subaru (naturally, she's on a first name basis), did your thing get longer today?" or "Subaru, it seems that your right testicle is hanging lower than your left one today, you bad boy." Just think how things would turn out when they actually do meet: Being the all-powerful, time manipulating witch of Envy, she'd probably abuse her time-stopping abilities just to have her way with him. She would unleash centuries’ worth of sexual frustration on Subaru, perhaps more than every single beta harem protagonist combined. And she won't stop for even a nanosecond, even if her pussy gets completely destroyed – Of course, only by her doing.

Just imagine what she would demand out of him when it's time for Subaru's turn. Or maybe, the poor thing won't even get his turn until a millennium had passed. She'd probably heal her hymen just so her precious Subaru can always take away her “innocence” whenever they do have sex. With an obsession this deep, it was no surprise that she destroyed half the world before she was tamed by the sage, the sword saint and the dragon.

I could picture it already. "Why are you stepping on the same ground as Subaru? None of you insects are worthy of him." She wound say, before proceeding to mercilessly slaughter everyone. Don't even get me started when she actually does meet Emilia and Rem. She'd probably morph her own pussy to one that’s identical to theirs, if that's what Subaru wants. Or even better, she’d probably mind break Subaru until her own holes are the only ones he can and will ever possibly want. Of course, any filthy whore who ever tried to steal Subaru’s heart would definitely be subjected to a fate worse than death beforehand. Beyond the shadow of a doubt, Satella would be more than happy with milking out every last ounce of Subaru's affection and semen for the rest of her life.
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>>157654295
Not him but saying everyone packed up and left is just plain wrong.
How are people still unironically falling for the "impact on the industry" meme?
There's no effort put into that trolling
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>>157654308
She probably does it to Al who she isekai'd as well, slut.
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>>157654741
like this
this kind of comment is what i mean
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>>157628394
no rakugo is
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According to Ram, Subaru's D is pathetic.
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>>157655410
What if it's just pathetic in comparison to the big clown cock?
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>>157648682
Why did Roswaal encourage Rem to be more attached to Subaru even though his goal was to make Subaru become another Roswaal, as in being devoted to only Emilia, as seen in arc 4? Or did he underestimate the maid and think she wouldn't be able to shake Subaru's feelings regardless of what she does to him, which would be dumb and silly since Subaru is a teenager and can grow feelings for another girl just fine.
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>>157655656
>only dick she saw was the clown dick
>doesn't know about growers
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>>157655773
So that there would be more significance in Subaru choose Emilia and abandoning everything else. He wanted Subaru to be a mindbroken edgelord.
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>>157655773
Maybe the gospel didn't specify it was Emilia he should get together with, so Roswaal just assumed bet on Rem.
Also
>In the gospel's text, or otherwise the writ, there is something Roswaal is hiding which he cannot let
>be known. Was his stubborn adherence to the prophecies also something originally spurred by that
>hidden something?
>If not, then how could someone on the level of Roswaal have not noticed the contradiction of the
>gospel?
Do we ever find out what that was about?
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>>157655970
Seems like Roswaal had way too much faith in Subaru who is actually a jerk and asshole. Did he seriously think Subaru would love Emilia that much despite him spending time with Emilia and Rem evenly?
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>>157655782
What if Roswaal is big when limp and also a grower? He probably magicked his dick size so he could make Echidna ahegao.
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>>157656166
It's not that he thought he would be an asshole and ditch them, it's that he thought Subaru would give up out of despair from failure like he did when he wanted to run away with Rem, and choose to focus on Emilia.
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>>157656166
>>157656224
Did both of you forget Roswaal's ideology? If he loves Emilia, he couldn't possibly think of anything but ditch everyone else, since that's how he himself works. For him, people cannot change.
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>>157656289
And that's why Roswaal expected Subaru to cut off Rem when pushed to make a choice.
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>>157656289
Very weird that Roswaal would expect Subaru's crush on Emilia to be as great as his obsession with Echidna or Garfiel's love for Sanctuary. Roswaal really is dumb without the gospel.
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>>157656616
Well Subaru does have an unnaturally strong love for Emilia. It's more like Roswaal just couldn't understand that not everyone is as autistic as he is.
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>>157656616
Maybe he thinks Subaru did Arc 1-3 solely for Emilia which would imply a proportionally big obsession
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>>157656772
Wait no forget that, Arc 3 didn't happen by then
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>>157655410
I'm looking forward to Rem's backhanded compliments about Subaru's dick when they fuck.
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>>157651989
>Also while Rem got erased it was most likely due to how she acts like Satella repellent.
So does Petra's handkerchief, after Echidna enhances it. I'd say that other people loving Subaru is what keeps away Envy, so she has motive to remove anyone who tries to get close to Subaru.
>>157657726
She should be glad that it's the perfect size for her petite frame.
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>>157628787
Look if shows start getting more than 12 episodes I'll start buying my meat at the local butcher shop for the end of time.
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>>157652394
That's the last time Subaru manages to whip the potato though. Doubt he can bring himself to shit talk her after she wakes up and Subaru puts her on a pedestal.
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>>157628394
desu the only people who dislike this show are hipsters
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>>157657726
>Again about Rem's sex life
Waifubait.
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>>157660189
>REEEE why is nobody talking about my waifu?
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>>157628909
12 kingdoms is better
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>>157660189
People make jokes about things. Woo.

But really, a lot of what happens in this series is people reacting to shit going down, rather than actively making shit go down. It's hard to speculate on what Rem would do in the future, especially since she's likely to come back disoriented. Maybe something will happen with Al or the assassin's guild, but we don't know enough about Al or the assassins.
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>>157660553
We probably talk about Ram's sex life more than anyone else's anyway.
I kinda hope Al isn't going to be totally evil or something, what's the worst thing we know of him till now?
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>>157628394
No, fuck off.
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>>157660091
>Still, days like these passed by for a whole year. Even though she had lost her memories of Rem, it was possible for new, different ones to form. Perhaps now definite memories were taking form within Ram.
>[Ram: Earnest feelings aren’t things that sprout that easily. I still don’t have memories of her in me and I’ve never witnessed this girl in an awake state. Although I could imagine that she was probably someone of excellence and dignity, similar to myself.]
>[Subaru: Sure she was excellent but, I don’t really have any memory of her being that dignified. Rather, there was a lot of times where she would surprisingly be in such a hurry to the point of being reckless, causing me to worry.]
>Rem had this other reckless part of her that she would show on occasion. Ram responded to Subaru with an “I see” with a listless voice similar to the wind.

Nah, Subaru will still be Subaru. Just this time Subaru will start sneaking into Rem's bed more often once she wakes up since it became a habit of his.
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>>157660850
Rem and Ram are practically the only female characters with a noticeable fucking sex drive. Whose sex life are we going to talk about? Betty's? Emilia's? Petra would be a better option than them.

Rem and Subaru are practically the only pair which has displayed any degree of mutual sexual attraction in the entire series.
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>>157660850
Still think that this entire Reid problem would be solved if Ram or Shaula took one for the team and distracted him. Maybe Ram can laugh at his tiny club.
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>>157628394

Yes it is. One of the worst mcs I've ever seen in my life. Shitty copypasta of All You Need Is Kill plot, with somehow a crappier mc.

/r9k/ faggots pumped it up, and now its everywhere. Normal faggots love it because its edgey like Tokyo Ghoul. Same reason they like SnK this season. Weak shitty mc with lots of mindless action where hes barely a contributor.
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>>157661005
There is always Capella
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>>157661270
He's not the Club wielder. He's literally just the "Stick Swinger". He swings sticks around. To him, a sword is just a sharp metal stick.
>>157661307
S/he's only fucking for attention, and because s/he wants to fuck the entire world. But sure, s/he shows interest in sex.
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>>157660975
>Subaru walks into Rem's room while she's changing.
This sounds clichéd as hell but for some reason I want to see it. Probably because it has a tragic story behind it.
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>>157661401
Club wielder, stick wielder same thing. If only Sekhmet was around still, at least she would be a guarantee.
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>>157661401
Can dragon AIDS be contracted through lewd acts?
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>>157661536
Translate what she's saying there. Now.
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Stop posting that doujin. Nee-sama is not waifubait.
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>>157661423
It breaks the cliche, since she wouldn't punch him. They'd probably just have an awkward chat as a result.
>>157661609
Well, it needs to enter in through wounds. So, maybe?
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>>157661611
>As a waifubait, I must have sex with Subaru-kun. He needs to fuck me like an oni. I believe I was born for this moment.
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>>157661748
Pretty sure that's not what it says. From my poor nip what I can read from that is the usual Ram insults.
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>>157656166
Subaru always loved emilia from the very moment he stepped in the mansion Rem was only a thing after she helped him in arc 3

Also Roswaal idolgy of love is : the person i love > the World , which is clearly not subaru's way to thinking
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>>157661748
That's nee-sama you idiot.
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>>157661777
So who is she fucking?
http://nijieromangadoujin.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-1418.html
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>>157662180
Pretty sure that's just a nameless, self-insert male character.
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>>157662259
Fuck, I wanted Subaru to give her a dicking as revenge for everything.
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>>157662283
Subaru can fuck Rem and make her sister watch them doing it instead.
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>>157662523
I doubt she'd care, Rem wants Subaru.
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So, is Ferris actually unable to learn offensive water magic?
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>>157662575
But she got mad at Rem sleeping with Subaru already?
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>>157662612
He's pretty much useless at anything that isn't healing.
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>>157662787
Well that and necromancy
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So I was re-reading Emilia's first trial and she knows Betelgeuse's full name. Has any reason been given in the WN so far as to why doesn't she recognize him as the Betelgeuse, cardinal of Sloth, that is recognized to have killed? Does she think it's a name passed down like Roswaal's? Does she know he went insane from killing Fortuna because of Pandora?

This seems like such a big plot hole, hope it's fixed in the LN.
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>>157663152
>cardinal
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>>157663152
Yep, she got her memory wiped. At least in the WN.
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>>157663186
Or archbishop. Since Translatoranon calls them cardinals, it was the first thing that came to mind.

>>157663217
Wait what, all of her memories from the 1st, 2nd and 3rd trial were wiped? That makes no sense at all, she wouldn't remember her real past if it was so

Also another thing I remembered, does she notice Regulus in Arc 5 as the same person in her memories of 100 years ago?
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>>157663217
He means after Arc 4. Subaru still doesn't know Juice is Betelgeuse and Emilia still doesn't know he killed him
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>>157662575
If you pay attention, Ram was getting along with Subaru pretty well until Rem fell in love with him. It was only then that Ram turned into a complete bitch and started getting more violent. Ram doesn't want anyone to steal her Rem away from her. Rem declaring her independence from her was her worst nightmare.

If Subaru wants revenge on Ram, fucking Rem right in front of her would be the way to do it. Especially if he could get Rem to say she loves Subaru more than her, and is planning to have all of his babies. Who she'll also love more than Ram, though maybe she could babysit while Rem makes even more babies.
>>157663131
And brainwashing, yes.
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Poor Ferri. Bullied here and hurt in the story. But happiness will come.
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>>157663400
I am getting NTR vibes outta this
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>>157663501
That's the point.
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>>157663501
Well, we're talking about the ideal way to punish Ram here, aren't we?
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>>157663501
She prioritizes her yuri fetish over oni race's survival (aka Rem's oni kids) so she deserves to be NTR'd.
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Will Julius ever catch a break? I feel like he's been getting kicked around a little too much recently.
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>>157664205
I though after sorting things out with Subaru he was just gonna stick around and be cool. I didn't expect him to get focused on and kicked around this much.
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>Woman: “Then your father was big. And when you're that big, you're bound to have superb guts.
I'm excited.”

RIP AND TEAR
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>>157663500
>But happiness will come.
>Tappei's story

KEK
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>>157628394
That would be ERASED.

God knows I wanted that show erased from my memory. I'm not even angry at the end. I mean, the mangaka shoves in his fetishes with all his works so it was to be expected and lets face it, 15 years is a long time.
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Also, which one of the witches was a Vampire? It obviously can't be Satella, Sekhmet, also Minerva if we go off the speculation she's Emilia (human) mother. Carmilla shouldn't be it either, so it's between Daphne, Typhon or Echidna. I'm betting Typhon.
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>>157665406
>Vampire
did i miss anything AGAIN?
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>>157665447
>Garfiel: “After all, yer th'same as one'v the old Witches.”
>Elsa: “—”
>The swaying motion of her dagger halts.
>Elsa's dark eyes look nonchalantly at Garfiel. He jabs his finger at her,
>Garfiel: “—Yer a goddamn VAMPIRE!”
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>>157665447
Garfiel said Elsa was like one of the witches, a vampire
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>>157665406
>she's Emilia (human) mother
Elsa was born human and even says she doesn't recall ever stopping being human. It's not something you're born as.
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>>157660850
Has anyone ever occurred that Roswaal's mana treatments may be the reason why Ram fell for him, like how Ferris tried to brainwash Subaru with his mana treatments?
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>>157665589
Then he wouldn't be surprised she wants his dick, unless this can happen randomly somehow
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>>157665406
>Minerva
>Emilia's human mother
Where the fuck did this come from?
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>>157665589
Well there isn't really a good reason why Ram fell for Roswaal so
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>>157665643
Do I have to start lecturing you about how affection works again?
Also, shouldn't Roswaal know this crap?
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>>157665636
You never know with Roswaal, the man is a layer of kekkaikus
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>>157665516
Good point.

>>157665639
The name Minerva is familiar to her, while the other witches' are not, both have fuckhuge, near infinite reserves of mana, their faces are simillar. Also her mother is full-human so it can't be Satella either.
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>>157665767
She also felt odd when meeting Sekhmet though.
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>>157665751
Who says that he doesn't know?
>>157665636
Maybe he planned for it but never expected it to be genuine or something like that.
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>>157665829
>Who says that he doesn't know?
His reactions to Ram's confession for example?
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>>157665406
Daphne got experimented with and Echidna may have tried something with herself.
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>>157665643
Ram told Subaru about Roswaal's good and charming traits in arc 2 already.
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>>157665767
>Good point.
So, you want to know who the vampire really was? Well, maybe it was the one defended by a bunch of devoted thralls. Maybe it was the one who literally shares her name with a fucking vampire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmilla
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>>157666028
>a female vampire named Carmilla, later revealed to be Mircalla, Countess Karnstein
>Karnstein
>Karsten
Retarded crack theory go
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>>157666656
Crusch and Elsa are related
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>>157661270
What if his is actually bigger than Roswaal's? Would she begin to love another 400yo man?
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>>157666745
Wouldn't that be Crusch and Carmilla?
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>>157634300
Yeah, thousands of people acting like a mediocre show is 10/10 isn't overrating.
A show with a small dedicated fanbase that sold like shit is the actual overrated thing here.
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>>157666028
Also didn't Carmilla burn to death like Elsa?
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>>157671980
Yes, I believe she did.
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>>157633798
>advertise it as one of the greatest anime episode ever
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Is it really popular among elevens?
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>>157672229
google tells me it was the 4th highest selling light novel series in 2016, being very slightly beaten by SAO and beaten by about 100k by konosuba. your name was highest. This is total sales though so I'm not sure which had the highest purchases/volume.

Seems pretty popular. Expect a butchered Netflix adaptation with Black Subaru and tranny Rem in 2018.
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>>157661748
I wonder if Rem would fall for Capella's trick as she disguises herself as Subaru-kun and asks Rem to fuck. If Rem doesn't then perhaps that would help dispel the "Rem is a waifubait" argument for good (in case Rem's rejection to Subaru's offer to run away isn't enough already).
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>>157650436
>>157650674
>Implying he isn't already
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>>157674038
you seem to not understand that it doesn't matter what happens, the people who call her waifubait are just frustrated kids who can't handle the fact that she's much more popular than their fav character. It's a pretty retarded argument to not like a character if you think about it.
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>>157628394
Yeah but why do you care? Some series are bound to be overrated no matter which year they debuted in.
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>>157665821
Minerva refuses to see Emilia for 'reasons' and made Sekhmet do it. Minerva wants to help Subaru for personal reasons, but won't say why. Minerva had some dealings with elves. Also Emilia was instinctively intimidated by Sekhmet, but the name Minerva is nostalgic for her and she doesn't know why.
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>>157674038
Dude. Subaru was able to see through an illusion Carmilla conjured from his own mind. Do you think the Rem who's always watching Subaru wouldn't see through Carmilla's bullshit? She's always noticed when Subaru was acting a bit weird.
>>157671980
I just realized that Carmilla dresses in heavy winter clothes, and Elsa is from the frozen north of Gusteko. They probably have the same homeland.
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>>157628394
With all certainty, and the same old shit, about the otakus in a fantasy world saving waifus with an overpower ability
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>>157628787
What impact did it cause? Is the same shit as ever, the only impact on the industry was that they confirmed they throw shit on the wall to see which sticking is a model of success ...
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You know. If you have to find a thousand ways to validate your disliking of it, you're making it not overrated.

Much loike the uber-plebs who bitch about FFVII despite not understanding it at all.
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>>157632397
How was Mob overrated?
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>>157630006
>gigguk
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