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>Sony President announcing that F/GO will get more anime to investors
>F/GO making millions of dollars during May because of the CCC event
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/05/24-1/sony-president-indicates-plans-for-more-fategrand-order-anime

There is no stopping Fate now. All of Aniplex's money is going to it for now on.

Can't wait to see people claiming Jeanne Alter as their waifu once the order is animated.
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>>157627270
How much it has been making in China
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>>157627270
>Can't wait to see people claiming Jeanne Alter as their waifu once the order is animated.
It's too late for them, I already claimed her multiple time on /fgog/, also max grailed, max fou'd and max skilled.
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>>157627270
F/GO was a mistake
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>>157627333
Jeanne Alter was a mistake.
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>>157627351
Not for Nasu
>Gets to be lazy 85% of the time while he is "working" on F/GO 2 and tsukihime
>Gets to have fun with his writing and put things in he wanted to for years but never had the opportunity
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>>157627384
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Welp, this is it.

Pay your respects to those forever lost.

RIP funny vamp.
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>>157627572
Just wait for the Tsukihime event.
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>>157627572
It's best just to remember the good times.

>>157627598
>just wait for the corpse desecration
No thanks.
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>>157627572
Gone before even had a real chance to shine.
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>>157627441
Going out of his way to write way more than required sure as hell isn't him being lazy.
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>>157627786
No, the fact that because of doing CCC he doesn't have to do literally anything until 2018.
>Epic of Remanent still going on with two more chapter to come out. One coming this summer
>Swimsuit event for this summer
>Apoc airing this summer for Apoc event
>HF airing this fall HF event
>Halloween Event
>Christmas Event
>Fate/Extra anime so another fucking Nero event
Based on the current F/GO time table F/GO 2 won't be coming out this whole year which means the only thing he will have really have done is this 1 event while he made everyone else do the other work.
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I want to get off Mr. Nasu's Wild Ride. I'm most excited to see English-only players react to everything. Pic related.
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Rest in pizza
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>>157627598
Still surprises me that they haven't done this. Maybe they'll do it to promote the remake when it comes out.
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>>157627384
To be honest, she's in the same vein as Jeanne was for vanilla Saber.

An exaggeration of a trait Arturia had.
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>>157630204
At this point there will be a side story like Strange Fake or Zero just made for EOP before Tsukihime remake.
Pic related is the MC's Servant
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>>157630176
>English version
Oh fuck me, I don't need this. I just started med school. I just stopped playing Strike Frontier, piece of shit. I already know the answer but is the gameplay...fun?
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>>157627572
Man, it hurts.
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>F/GO making millions of dollars during May because of the CCC event
>CCC
Grand Order is fine, in general. This is not.
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>>157630446
It's a pretty simple turn-based RPG. If you want to try it before the English version comes out(probably around July, to match the JP and CN releases), it's easy to download either Asian version as a trial.
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>>157630468
Blame cute Alter Ego and slutty nun
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>>157630446
No fun, just suffering.
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>>157631087
I blame whichever fuck[s] came up with the designs and motions for Kiara and Mooncunt. Really, they kinda border on being 'acceptable' if you just read about their existences in concept, but actually seeing them fucking ruins it.
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>these will be animated soon
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>>157627270
I hope the next F/GO anime is made by a different studio. The OVA looked awful.
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Stage play applications site to be allowed to buy tickets through a fucking lottery crashed within the hour of release by the massive traffic. Looks like all sold out or is in the process of chosen who gets to attend and who doesn't. Stage play has days with female protagonists and other screens with male one.

Nasu and Takeuchi teased too they want an anime version with the female protagonist someday too in one of their latest interviews. That's why Nasu chose a neutral name (Ritsuka).
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>>157630209
Nasu said he'll do a collab when Tsukihime R is out with SSR Arc.
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>>157630176
Leonardo Da Vinci and King Solomon are the thinking man's couple. Type Moon Complex guy agrees. I hope Nasu gives her a happy ending eventually after all that devotion.
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>>157630468
They always make millions of dollars, though.
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>>157632744
CCC was in the tens of millions
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>>157632856
Not daily, and it was a long event with two gachas with limited new classes. Completely understandable. Valentines still earned more during the first week, so not counting a second gacha and an additional week, it just seems what to expect of long lasting event with multiple units.
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>>157627270
since when is Sony in bed with type moon?
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>>157633626
Since Aniplex funded Kara no Kyoukai and they realized how much money they can make from it.
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>>157633626
Sony owns Aniplex which helped make the KnK Movies, UBW movie, Fate/Zero, UBW TV and the HF Movies.
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>>157633626


Jewplex is the publisher of FGO
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Vive la France!
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>>157638298
Her interlude hurts me now.
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>>157633851
Wrong UBW movie was still a Geneon Universal Entertainment production, and Deen was the studio in charge.

Aniplex/Sony knew they could make some mad dosh after the success of Kara no Kyoukai, so they bought the right to the Fate franchise and that's also the reason why previous works are not even mentioned today, like in the anniversary for example.
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>>157638298
No. This is fake, not original!
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Fuck you all I'm pleased that F/GO is being anime shows
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>>157630446
I think it's a decent mobile rpg. The most annoying part is the item farming when you upgrade your servants and you're in a situation where you have something like 4 servants who need 10-20 dragon fangs each. There's also the difficulty spike in Camelot but if you're patient enough you could just force your way through with your command seals.
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>>157642440
You say "Fake"?
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>>157627572
>>157630209
Tsukihime is getting an Order in Grand Order though, Nasu straight out says he wants a 4 Star Arc and 5 Star Archetype Earth.

>tfw three way with Archetype Earth and Void (Shiki)
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STOP THE GENDERBENDING
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GO is a mistake.
If it wasn't mobage cashgrab trash it would be worth looking into.
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>>157643299
i mean for the mostly either only play it because it's a combination of their like for the nasuverse and any addition that it may add to it + their easy addiction to what is essentially gambling.

All I saw people playing on their phones in Japan for games were either this game, puzzles and dragons, and some weird version of candy crush
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>>157643165
>Tsukihime is getting an Order in Grand Order though
See: >>157627670
>just wait for the corpse desecration
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>>157643535
Not really corpse desecration considering for the Servants to be any use against the Vampires in it, the Tsukihime Event will most likely take place in a singularity where the DAA and Heroic Spirits can both co-exist. Once the Singularity is resolved that world will cease to exist.

>Not wanting Mashu and Ciel interaction.
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>>157643655
I don't see why you think that makes it any better. Tsukihime being subsumed by Fate at all, especially FGO of all ghastly things, is pretty much the worst case scenario.
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>>157643655
>wanting currybutt in any form
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>>157643789
I'd take currybutt over 80% of the FGO servant roster, but then I wouldn't want FGO in the first place.
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>>157627441
He's just gonna sit around being rich, writing random stuff on a whim. Get other writers to do stuff while bossing them around.

And ultimately not actually make anything new.

Living the goddamn dream.
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I'm beyond caring at this point. Typemoon has been dead to me for a few years now.
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>>157627270
Sony is looking for something to use as a full cashcow.

Look at their recent movies. They're all shit.

Anime is the in thing again. May as well go for it.
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Can you cancerous fucks please just go back to /jp/? Letting [email protected] faggots bring their mobage horseshit to the board has been one of /a/'s greatest mistakes.
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>>157644380
I thought Sony Japan and Sony US kinda operate more or less independently. At least that's the impression I got since Sony JP is doing ok while Sony US went full retard.
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>>157644380
The only thing good and marketable in the entire clusterfuck that is Fate is the recent UBW.
Litterally everything else is unmarketable to 99.9% of the rest of the world market.

The only way to make Fate into something of worth is to rip apart the entire story and wrap it around UBW while ditching the less...useable stuff or relegating it to AU stuff.
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>>157644571
>rest of the world market
They don't have to. Just mainly Japan, China plus some Asian territories. Did I mention China? Because China's a damn good place to get some cash out of it, especially for mobage. So really, those things are marketable enough.
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>>157627270
That's my wife you are shitposting with jerk
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>>157644699
>>157627270
I kind of like Jeanne Alter, but I honestly prefer her in white.
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It's a shame all the shit they have to go through before getting to Babylonia

I don't care about the rest, but they better make sure the endgame looks as great as it deserves
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>>157644970
enjoy your shit 3d
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>>157644901
How is that headband (?) thing supposed to stay put on her hair? Camelot magick?
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>>157645331
It's stapled on.
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>>157644472
This is one of the reasons I hate Nasushit so much, though this shit doesn't belong on /jp/ either, it has its own general already in /vg/.
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>>157645331
The Adhesive of Assured Attachment 「PRITT STICK」
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>>157644472
>>157645666
In that vein, we might as well remove all Danganronpa and Persona and Pokemon threads.
We know full well that those threads are at best 20% anime and 80% games.
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>>157645799
>Pokemon
Yes. Pokemon threads are cancer.
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>>157645799
Might as well get rid of the mecha threads too, since they also have their own board.
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>>157627572
atari dumbledore is ugly as fuck anyway. she dresses like an extra ugly granny
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>>157647536
Well aren't you just the cheekiest cunt around.
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>>157630270
>An exaggeration of a trait Arturia had.
But that's wrong, Jeanne never had any desire for vengance. Alter is literally Gilles OC.
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>tfw literally all I like in Fate is the OG VN and Ataraxia
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>>157643165
I'm sure they'll release Tsukihime remake as a side material to the event, right?
KILL ME
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>nasu will never get around to do any of his other projects because he's too busy printing money
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>>157645331
>Jeanne
>camelot
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>Finally get to roll for my precious son Mordred
I love TM
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>>157648922
All the special exceptions and retcons that were re retconed after Apo were all done to make Jeanne possible as a heroine love interest to a MC that nobody asked for.
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>>157648965
It's ok, anon. She wasn't meant to be your waifu anyway.
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>>157649101
Not even, just a big red flag to plenty of later shit.
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>>157627270
Can't wait to see best girl animated
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>>157649154
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>>157649292
>Jeanne will forever get double teamed by Astolfo and Sieg

Is is possible to rewrite Apo?
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Will they animate major events like GudaGuda, KnK, Prillya, etc?
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Does that mean Altera is finally getting her own anime?
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>>157627270
>There is no stopping Fate now.
Too bad. Almost all of fate (except for
Zero) is garbage.
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>>157649340
No. You will love what you got.
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>>157649449
No.
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>>157649590
oh, okay.
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>>157649340
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>>157649623
Aviceborn that tall.
But he is the manlets of manlets.
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>>157649503

Zerofags are insecure autists who are paranoid about how others see them and only prefer Zero because the presence of a grown male protagonist and relative lack of cute girls makes them feel comfortable.

Zero is a case of an ensemble cast gone wrong. Every conflict felt like supporting character vs. supporting character. Even Kiritsugu felt more like the sort of protagonist who's the most important in the grand scheme of things but not necessary in the spotlight during each individual conflict that involves him (typical to more episodic stories that change protagonists every episode... except without the episodic protagonists). The end result was a big, poorly strung together mess that was difficult to get invested in.

Comparatively, F/SN had a very firm direction. I'm not even much of a Fatefag (I'm more of a Tsukihimefag), but I hate people who act like Zero is head and shoulders above Nasu's stuff.
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>>157650071
This sounds like MaL.
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>>157650196
But MaL fellates all over Zero.
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>>157649623
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>>157650071
Both stay night and zero are garbage. But zero is more enjoyable garbage. I had fun watching it (even though I hate Urobutchi trash). It's a solid 7/10 for being just a fun and trashy action show. Meanwhile UBW is completely boring garbage and a 2/10 at best. The characters are unlikeable and don't get focus, because a visual novel does not work as an anime (while Zero works as a complete anime). I also tried reading the novel, and it was also shit.
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>>157650945
You have some massive shit taste
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>>157650699
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>>157650945
Zero is utterly unmemorable. At least FSN has some strong moments.
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>>157650071
>Every conflict felt like supporting character vs. supporting character
Sounds good to me. Most of Bleach's best moments were between supporting characters.
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>>157643655
Nasu said DAA do exist in Fake (to cover up Narita fuck up) and they can exist in FGO, but not in the Fate franchise anymore. Same goes with Arc. FGO is meant to be the crossover setting.
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>>157650945
Zero is edgy shit and doesn't have the best character, Redman.
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This has to have the worst gatcha rate in all the mobage I've played.
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>>157652381
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>>157649449
She appears as an antagonist in Septem, remembered by the worst antagonist in the worst order.
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>>157627270
I wouldn't mind if it wasn't just Grand Order, and Nasu actually did something else. As it is, he'll be stuck with that forever.

Fuck gacha and fuck mobile games, waste of all that cool lore.
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>>157643165
>Tsukihime is getting an Order in Grand Order
That's just insulting more than anything, though.
If it were an event promoting the VN if it ever got made, that'd be different. Everything becoming Grand Order is the lamest shit.
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>>157653864
But he did Extella and is working on Tsukihime R.
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>>157643655
>wanting Mashu anything
>FGO getting all the special circunstances that allow cool shit to happen thanks to the new lore is a good thing
End yourself GOfag.
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>>157654047
Extella was the same Servant wanking crap as GO. "Hey, look at all these famous people as anime characters. Now they fight xD."
No human characters, no well written character development (Altera is as waifu bait as it gets), and a legitimately bad game.

He's "working" on Tsuki like he's been for years. The last concrete news were the Shiki/Arihiko designs before GO became a thing.
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>>157653860
At least she gets a good scene in Solomon.
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Altera deserves more love.
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>>157654379
At least he's more serious about Tsukihime now he wants a collab with FGO.
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>>157654755
Why?
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>>157655467
Because she's lovely.
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>>157655484
You're lovely.
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>>157653836
I'm not trolling. I have a very hard time remembering anything really significant in Zero. There's the dumb action scenes, a few overwrought drama pieces and that's about it. None of the characters are compelling. FSN isn't exactly an amazing piece of literature but at least there are a few parts that can stick with the reader, especially in UBW and HF.
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>>157655821
I know, but nowhere near as lovely as Altera.
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>>157655465
Yeah right. Didn't he say that a while ago already?
Money talks loud and GO has a lot of it. I hate the route Type-Moon is taking.
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>>157654379
>>157653864
Couldn't agree more. TM can cash in on FGO all it wants for all I care, but Nasu needs to do something else. Not more promises about a remake that was announced almost ten years ago, something actually fresh that makes the most of his writing style. Or at the very least finishing non-Fate material that he started, a conclusion to DDD or Mahoyo would be nice.
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>>157627270
Pure only
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>>157656774
Is Alter still pure?
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>>157656073
No, he said that this year, anon.
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>>157654583
Her scene was literally Extella ad and "I don't want to be a character, my wish is to be a bland waifubait from now on" line.
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>>157643165
I have no idea what class Archetype Earth would be. Regular Arc would obviously be a Berserker.
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You think the english release will have censorship?
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>>157658811
Can she even be a class? If the system doesn't even support the existence of DAAs, how can it support TAs, let alone an Aristotles?
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>>157658962
The system is able to support the existence of [ ]. She will be class as something.
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>>157659059
It's just a human with a personality that's an outlet for [], strictly speaking it should be possible to manifest as all humans are innately born with that potential quality according to KnK principles. Aristotles are a different issue altogether.
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>>157656856
Gilles knew she was a virgin, so Jeanne Alter would also be a virgin, so in the case of bodily purity, she is. But not in the spiritual purity. Jeanne Alter is a twisted parody of her true self, born from the dark fantasies of a mad man. She may hold some personality traits of her original, but she mostly is just the product of sick imagination.
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>>157658856
Only unless the ESRB takes notice.

>>157658962
>Can she even be a class?
I'm sure they're find a way to put her in the game.
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>>157658856
I'd be surprised if we get Prisma Illya.
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>>157658962
Gaia in FGO is an useless fuck who relies on Servants to protect her spinning ass, so naturally for AE to be of any use, she should be in a Class. Alter Ego most likely or "Funny Vamp."
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I'm worrying about Type-Moon...
I know that many newfags didn't even read VNs / Light Novel F/Z and just watched shitty animu by Deen, Ufotable and JC Staff.
And now even more retards will play in shitty April Fools' game, Fate/Extra and even worse CCC, watch Fate/Zero and Carnival Phantasm without even reading VNs/LNs and pretend to be TM-fags after that, make tons of shitty threads about characters and power levels.
They will not be even familiar with the original art-style and will think that this shitty K-on CP is "okay", Morii-san's art is not pure shit, RCO Wada is nice and F/Z is soo kewl stylish and grim dark, also Fate/Extra is acceptable by any means with all this "wH0 iZ mai WAiFUUUU" & UmUshit whore of babbylon crap.
Type-Moon is not supposed to be this popular, get the fuck out you narutards.

And now you can CLEARLY see all these "typemoonfags" of 2010-2013. Fucking horrible. You're not TYPE-MOON fans, but NEO-NARUTO-MOON fans.

I ordered Mahoyo and finished that shit VN in this year (2011 late release) while you are still sucking dicks for at least 5 years or so without the translation, fucking plebeians and casuals. But even Mahoyo was a PIECE of SHIT and BOMBED really hard.
And what is more hilarious - Type-SHIT is pretending like it never happened and preferred to completely FORGOT about their new VN by making another absolutely IDIOTIC fate/shit such as EXTRA/SHIT and APOCRYSHIT.

And now Type-Moon decided to resurrect this shit Fate/Apocrypha like it wasn't enough to make Fate/Milking Sabers shit, their outbursting impotence and rectal dysfunction is taking them way far away from something actually new and original, you may suggest that Mahoyo is new but you'll be terribly wrong because the sequence of Mahoyo was made in 1996(!) year and the only "new" thing will be Girl's work but I'm not sure even about this, there's no guarantee that they didn't pull this shit out of someone's old ass again.
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>>157659160
>Aristotles are a different issue altogether.
When a creature evolve to Beast, they are far superior to Aristotle as Galaxy-tier or above threats, with Crown/Grand Servants as their counterpart in quality of their Saint Graph (which is now the spiritual foundation bullshit lore word Nasu uses).
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>>157659732
Except they're better than ever now with how much money F/GO is making, face it, T-M= Fate now, nothing else matters for them.
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>>157652580
>Zerobabies are Bleachfags
huh
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>>157659892
>GOfag replies to clearly dated pasta
>thinks profit = quality
This fucking guy.
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>>157659892
This. Even this guy changed his series from Type Moon Complex to Type Moon Complex GO.
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>>157659800
Oh yeah, I forgot about the power inflation garbage.
Makes me wonder how nothing left on Earth can properly stand up to Aristotles in the Notes scenario if they're not even that big a deal in the grand scheme of things, but oh well. I'm sure Notes isn't relevant at all anymore.
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Reminder that now the Facebook FGO page got 30,000 likes. NA players will start the game with
>Mash
>Saber Lily
>Enough Quartz to roll 10 times or 10 roll once
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>>157659800
You have literally no source for Beasts being superior to Aristoteles. Especially because it's simply not true.
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>>157660007
>guy follows the current trends in the franchise
Woah, really says a lot about its quality.
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>>157660037
>NA players won't get the quartz from constant maintenance the jp version got.
lel
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>>157660037
No one cares, game mechanics and balance are irrelevant when you're talking about a waifu mobage.
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>>157659992
Never said that, but that's how things are for the company whatever you like it or not.
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>>157659892
Type-moon is pretty much dead after F/GO ends. Nasu can't write anything new without re-using characters from his past work now. Also now that he is decided that all his past works must now bow down to F/GO lore there is no meaning to them anymore. Since if F/GO ends then their relevance ends as well.
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>>157660180
It's true, but you were retarded to reply to that.
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>>157660212
Ergo never end FGO and other works should include FGO content. Like Demi Servant Kouhai.
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>>157660130
They will probably start with 3 quartz a roll though.
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>>157660212
>TM liquifies
>Nasu only has DDD left because it isn't an actual TM inprint
>He actually has to finish it because that's all he has
Well at least that's something.
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>>157627572
F
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>>157660170
What he said has nothing to do with gameplay or balance.

>>157660037
>Mash
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>>157660262
FGO forever is the worst possible fate for TM.
2015 will be the year where everything good ended if that were to happen.
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>>157660375
>Mash
That's her official name in proper English.
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>>157660034
Notes is a doujin Nasu wrote in his edgy youth. I'm not certain why do you assume is relevant.

>>157660046
>t. never played FGO
>t. never read Nasu's Chaldea Ace Interview
Beasts are the 7 (or more depending if L/R) Multiveuniversal Greatest Foes in Nasuverse. There's nothing that says an Aristotle can't achieve Beast level, as is a title to a huge fuck powerful Saint Graph that can potentially endanger everything. I'm sure Nasu will make ORT, but just ORT, one of the Beasts as he made Primate Murder a Beast-in-the-Making too. But on their own Aristotle aren't impressive anymore. Even Alter Ego Kiara, who is on par of a Solar System, can BTFO them.

Beast isn't a species.
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>>157627270
So can we now just say that Tsukihime is dead, forever?
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>>157660412
Waver as a Servant and demi-servants in general is the stupidest fucking thing they're done so far.
Really makes GO stand out as just a fanservice game with a story forced in because fans wanted Nasu.
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>>157659732

shouldn't have expected anything from commie, all herkz is capable of is stealing CR subs and memeifying them. how can you TL a game if your """fansub""" group doesn't even have a TL on stuff, just editors who rip the subs off HS releases? I'm sure Beast's Lair will have it done by 2026 though. Crossed fingers!
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>>157660496
Maybe we'll see her in Illya for 3 seconds.
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>>157660479
Damn, not that anon but that's some incredibly awful power creep.
And I thought Grand Servants and Solomon were retarded enough. Fuck FGO so much, there really is nothing good left to milk from Fate.
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>>157660503
They weren't created in FGO, newfag. Shirou as Angra Mainyu is the original Pseudo Servant, retard. That's the basis for Leticia and Jeanne in Apocrypha too. If you weren't such a blind hater fanboy you'll know that Nasu did it in the past already. He even called Avenger "Shirou Pseudo Servant" in Apoc mats.
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>>157660503
>Forgetting the angry manju
Anon please.
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>>157660653
What's wrong with him?
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F/GO contradicts fundamental laws the multiverse is built upon. Plenty of things in FGO are impossible even without the dumb time travel aspect(ex: Berserker having access to Nine Lives, Mashu tanking Excalibur Morgan, Mashu or the incarnate-heroes even existing the way they do, parody servants, etc).

The game literally states that servant summoning system isnatural part of the world. Which is LOL.

A human being should not be able to fully house a servant. Vessels are empty constructs created via grail for a reason. The whole vessel thing is inconsistent too - Waver apparently can house one of greatest strategists inside him without loosing an ounce of his personality or identity(oh and he somehow ages backwards with ascensions), yet Rin somehow is 100% Ishtar.

Grail summoning gods makes no sense, but then again, grail summoning an "alternate" Artoria who lived completely different life(Artoria Lancer) makes zero sense too. The fact that F/E servants remember their grail wars or overall servants remember previous summonings also is nonsense.

The prologue of FGO already encompasses a lot of problems when you see magi in white coats use scientific mumbo jumbo(despite science being the opposite of magecraft) with it all culminating when your heroic heroine Mashu ends up defending from a full powered excalibur by shielding you with(and I am not making it up) a spaceship table that is powered by willpower.

Even the idea of "backwater" Holy Grail ritual is messed with now with Solomon, the big moustache twirling villain of FGO apparantly having had a hand in it somehow via manipulating Zouken and shit.

FGO overall exists on the principle of retconing bunch of shit to exist. Final Order felt disjointed, felt like a shonen genre finale, was filled with out of nowhere asspull fixes and retcons and one huge insult to tsukihime/nasuverse lore. Completely tonally disjointed from rest of nasuverse too with all the wishy washy "HUMANS ARE THE BEST" bullshit.
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>>157660615
In HA it was done because it fit the narrative and added to the mystery. Also Angry Manjew wasn't an actual god like Ishtar or Parvati.

In GO it's done purely for fanservice and lazy re-using of old designs. They can't come up with new human characters, but still bring the old ones back as Servants because fans actually liked them. FGO is beyond idiotic in its mix of pure fanservice and self-insert protagonist, with actually trying to build a "serious" story.
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>>157630468
CCC is great, fuck off you massive contrarian retard.
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>>157660589
Crown/Grand Servants are the counterpart of Beasts, though. They are titles that are given to the best of their class and whose saint graph is just fucking good. For example King Hassan degraded his Saint Graph to hurt Tiamat's Saint Graph and make her killable and be possible to harm her.

Beasts candidates aren't born into that power, or are automatically dangerous, and they can be anything. Gaia's dog, the sentient foundation of magic, some sluttly cultist whore, a sumerian genesis goddess. Their origin isn't relevant, but how they evolve and power up eventually to be fucking dangerous. Once their saint graph changes to Beast is because they have leveled up into huge calamities everyone needs to stop. Once they reach that mature form, they are also unaffected by time paradoxes and are multiverse residual shit.

From the Aristotles, I bet ORT is gonna be a Beast candidate.
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>>157660788
That anon must be an EOP.
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>>157660824
Yeah, retarded power creep because Nasu can't establish high stakes in Fate any other way, since he needs every single OP Servant to be on the player's side for the shitty gacha mobile game.
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>>157660759
Is this pasta?
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>>157660932
>since he needs every single OP Servant to be on the player's side
What? Almost half of them were enemies in other orders, and some of them are still NPC only.
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>>157660932
Well, neither Grands or Beasts are rollable (in their powerful vessels/SG), so it's a moot point, and the way the Beasts are defeated follows Nasu's pottery conceptual handling.
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>>157660976
Yes but none of them were the big end of part 1 bosses, which is reserved for Beasts, and all of them will eventually be rollable and enter the bland MC's harem. Shit medium for a shit story.
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>>157627384
short haired jeanne is the miracle of the universe
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>>157661014
Retarded power creep for the sake of making a mobile game more relevant is never a moot point, anon.
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>>157660479
>Notes is a doujin
It's still a TM release. It's doujin, but then so is Tsukihime and so was KnK. Apart from anything else, Notes characters were depicted in Carnival Phantasm, so that's at least some level of acknowledgement. There's no reason to think it isn't part of the lore until directly stated otherwise. I assumed it might've been but from what you're saying it hasn't, so whatever.
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>>157660589
Beasts and their enemies were an idea Nasu toyed with since Prototype. The Beast of Revelations was always a thing and it was going to be big, but he dropped it when he wrote FSN.

Now he has free reign, he can go back to the origins. Proto Beast and the Whore of Babylon are Beast VI. You know all the BB buffs she hacked from Mooncell in CCC? Those are all natural traits from the VI. The Beasts are very varied. Our boy Shirou helped to take down one half of Beast (the R of the III) in some worldlines, because he killed Kiara when she was still human as a premonition of what she was going to become if left alone and alive, it destroyed him as consequence and became EMIYA Alter. Of course Kiara does finally evolve into the R of Beast III in FGO CCC event, but she had aborted close cases beforehand.
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>>157661314
The story of Waver being a girl and dating Iskandar who is a nerd is also a Type Moon release. How is it relevant to the 'lore', anon? In any case, Nasu already set three distinctive settings and Notes have no place in Fate-universes or FGO, where we have confirmation humans and Gaia are gonna exist to the end of the universe.
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>>157661222
pray for the one and true lord of cinder
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>>157661466
I'd rather the original Jeanne.
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>>157661318
Retarded power creep for the sake of Servant wanking. Doesn't matter if he had the idea a long time ago, Prototype was trash and vastly improved by FSN. Servants were just right as they were in SN, with Gil at the top and as the strongest familiars. Now it's all about humanity and all about them, because they're popular and sell merchandise/gacha.

>caring at all about Shirou's awful, edgy and black AU self
Demiya was a mistake and no backstory or ties to a Beast will fix that.
It's amazing how GOfags always post the most cringeworthy fanart.
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>>157661379
>The story of Waver being a girl and dating Iskandar who is a nerd is also a Type Moon release. How is it relevant to the 'lore', anon?
F/Z contradicts that. I was trying to figure out if anything contradicts Notes, you going on about doujin releases isn't helping and doesn't really have anything to do with it.
>In any case, Nasu already set three distinctive settings and Notes have no place in Fate-universes or FGO, where we have confirmation humans and Gaia are gonna exist to the end of the universe.
Thank you for giving an actual answer. That's all you had to do in the first place.
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>>157661211
The mobile game is what Nasu calls his will he wants others to inherit after he dies. He doesn't call your favorite VN or notes like this.
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>>157661625
>the marketing statements say this so it must be true
>never read KT where Nasu is confirmed as The Lying Adult
>doesn't know he said Extra CCC had all he had left to say with Fate

If FGO ever dries up and he does a Fate reboot, a Prototype VN, or some other big project, he'll go "this is what I really wanted to write since high school, everything that marked me as a person is in this work".
With death of the author, it's obvious from a literary perspective that FSN will always be his most impactful work, regardless of whatever bullshit he comes up with.
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>>157661572
>I was trying to figure out if anything contradicts Notes

As I say, in FGO, Merlin's profile alludes he's gonna watch humanity's journey until the universe ends from the Garden in the tower. This also means Gaia is alive because Avalon is an island in the middle of her soul. FGO make seem like the Heroic Spirits protect Gaia too, so it does seem men and nature relationship is more harmonious in this setting. Look at Primate Murder being a mascot of Chaldea as a clue.

Extella also contradicted Notes. Humans will move onto Mooncell and leave Gaia agonizing behind. Maybe in Fate setting, except FGO, Gaia dies while humans leave the planet (Gilgamesh prediction about them going to the stars). Servant planet exists too, that's where MHX comes from (yes, it's a parody of capeshit and SW, but Nasu still wrote that). Tsukihime setting and Fake can be different. Not everything happens the same, in Fate, Roa is slain by Dantes. In Fate, at least in Extra, Sion dies at birth and her sister survives and she leads Atlas.
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>>157661860
>Extella also contradicted Notes
I thought Extra/Extella was separate from FGO anyway.
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>>157661945
It dies, I'm listing it as another setting Notes can't happen, but it's a bad end for the planet. FGO seems to be the only setting so far Gaia lives alongside humans. In Notes, she's already dead.
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>>157662118
*It is
Sorry.

I was saying before this discussion started that Archetype Earth can easily be an Alter Ego. That's kind of the appropriate description of her existence too.
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>>157661854
If F/Go dies then the Fate verse and any other verse he made up or approved of that is tied to F/Go dies as well. Their is no re-using of his past works after what he did to them with F/GO.

Tsukihime and F/SN will always be the two works that helped put him out there on the map regardless of how he views of them now. Without Tsukihime success I doubt we would have ever known about F/SN. Along with F/SN being a bigger hit then the former we wouldn't have Fate along with Type Moon being big as it is Today.
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>>157662191
You're delusional if you think that. Mobage don't last forever and I doubt he actually wants to only write about Servants. There's plenty more he can do with his old franchises.
Worst case would be him quitting completely while guest authors work on GO, which keeps milking shit-eating fans and the Fate setting.
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>>157662317
>Mobage don't last forever
But what could possibly kill it?
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>>157632856
Valentine+ the first 3 days of Shinjuku made 34.M
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>>157662191
>being this naive and salty
FGO is far more recognizable now in Japan than FSN. Nasu admitted it. Tsukihime isn't even more recognizable than Melty Blood either.

The future works are all going to be linked to the ground that is more familiar to his fanbase which is FGO, not FSN or Tsukihime (which is a niche VN that is getting a full reboot).
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>>157662371
Don't forget how less than the 20% of FGO players knew of Fate before playing the game.
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>>157662349
The current model of mobage becoming outmoded or enough competition hits to push down profits. FGO is popular now, but something will surpass it down the line and in probably not that short a space of time, it's a pretty turbulent market after all.
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>>157662317
But fans like Nasu's writing. The top three orders in popularity were Camelot, Babylonia and Time Temple.

He even introduced a lot of interesting characters and concepts in FGO before focusing on the Servants. Like how Goetia's curse affected the magi which would not get anywhere in FGO because we must fight Beast VII now. The people dealing with Clock Tower shit are free to explore Goetia's curse and the pillar demons possession in their bloodline outside that setting.
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>>157662452
>Don't forget how less than the 20% of FGO players knew of Fate before playing the game.
why does /a/ bothering being elitist about Fate if that's the case
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>>157662452
He better hope that crowd stays after F/GO is over. I doubt the original fans that supporting him since Tsukihime or starting with F/SN is liking all the retcons Nasu is doing to appease the F/GO crowd.
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>>157662452
I don't. That's my point.

>>157662503
FGO is saving Sony Music Branch during a tough time. There's nothing that Nasu could do that will surpass it. This isn't a joking matter and isn't exclusive to Type Moon. Sony fucking CEO has his eyes on the franchise. You think Extella almost 200k odd sales compare to 30-50k million revenue a month for a mobage?
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>>157662503
>FGO is popular now, but something will surpass it down the line and in probably not that short a space of time, it's a pretty turbulent market after all.
What was the biggest mobage around before GO came out?
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GO is great. Stay mad EOPs.
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>>157662536
But Japanese oldfags love FGO? Case point our dear Shiki "I can Kill Servants" Tohno wanker >>157660007 Nasu was originally aiming to them and thought he would only have 100k players at most, like Extra series got. It exploded beyond his expectations.
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>>157662601
Pretty sure EOPs already play GO, and even more will this summer
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>>157662536
I'll buy DDD volume 3 20 years from now when TM is all washed up. Not many others will, though, I suspect.

>>157662573
>There's nothing that Nasu could do that will surpass it.
I'm not talking about something that TM would produce, I'm talking about the mobage market at large.

>>157662582
Probably something like Puzzles & Dragons or Granblue, if Granblue was even out before FGO, I don't remember. That's how rapid the market fluctuates anyway.
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>>157662452
$1,000,000 each and every day with spikes every month. Sony/Aniplex make adaptations from Fate which will sell great each and every time. FGO in NA will probably sell decently due to whaling like Fire Emblem Heroes, which consistently gets within the top 25 ranking in terms of profits
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>>157662719
>I'm not talking about something that TM would produce, I'm talking about the mobage market at large.
I'm sure Monster Strike is the biggest Mobage but has a different audience (it's toward kids mostly).

Sony is taking measures to expand the FGO playerbase to promote the franchise in stage play medium and the Mashu VR thing. It's very clever even if the old fags whined about "why not anime?!" they shut up now with Sony CEO promises. The female actorfags are looking into FGO now because the stage play is directed by that popular Kuroshit musical director and has tons of their favorites cast. Not sure about the VR.
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>>157627348
But is she max bond and NP2? If not then she is mine.
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>>157662876
yes to both lad, If I could do anymore for her I would.
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>>157656856
Purer than vanilla, since she is Gilles OC donut steal.
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>>157662835
The problem is the playerbase in the west is never going to come close to matching the East Asian market, which cripples its worth compared to other potential investments. Maybe it won't matter that much on balance, but you can be sure it'll only be a matter of time until the next big thing comes along and starts hoovering up its playerbase even in Asia. It's lucretive now and worth investing in for the time benig, but it's not a model built for the long term.
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>>157662504
Nasu doesn't write shit. It's mostly Sakurai and other TM writers.
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>>157663058
It doesn't really matter when China and now Tawain are generating a lot of money?
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>>157643777
Arc was already a Servant in Extra though.
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>>157663130
Anon, he wrote America, Camelot, Babylonia and the main story of Time Temple (the cast interludes were by Higashide and Sakurai), along with other scenes in all singularities including the Prologue.
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>>157663130
He got them to write FGO1.5 filler while he writes FGO2. He wrote the CCC event too which was recent
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>>157663162
That's why I said:
>you can be sure it'll only be a matter of time until the next big thing comes along and starts hoovering up its playerbase even in Asia
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>>157663247
What is your point? Was FSN forgotten because it wasn't the most popular VN of all time? It was relevantly small in comparison to Muv Luv and Keyshit.
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>>157662948
I sure as hell will roll everything for her next time she has a rate up.
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>>157663355
Mobage market is like MMOs in that it functions on continuous supportive userbases, it's not really the same as a VN that had maybe two or three printings.
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>>157663578
That is only true when isn't an established franchise, anon. You sound absolutely anal devastated FGO is here to stay.
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>>157663630
I'm not, I don't really care that much about FGO either way, though I might give it a look when the western release hits. I'm just being a realist, these things aren't meant for the long term, the market turnover is far too rapid.
Maybe I'm wrong and Puzzles & Aliens or whatever hits next doesn't hurt FGO, and that'll be just swell. But if it happens, don't say I didn't call it.
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>>157663578
Weird, because FGO is has the biggest supportive userbase of the Fate franchise
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>>157663745
>of the Fate franchise
It doesn't have to compete with the rest of the Fate franchise, it's other potential mobage, or even the next equivalent that'll replace the current model of mobage.
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>>157663720
FGO is liked by the story and plot. One of the moments of tensions was due to Septem being shit and they were losing the players' patience. It's getting experimental VR shit from Sony, tons of manga anthologies, anime, stage play, and who else what else in the future. Sony has its eyes on the franchise and they might even milk a movie or something. In the meantime all Fate shit gets promoted because of FGO. TSUKIHIME gets promoted because of FGO, a lot of new fans want to know more of Tsuki vampires because they liked Tantarella (Roa in Dantes' story).
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>>157662514
Because those other 80% are cancer that are dealinh Type-Moon down its current path? Bet most of the retarded whales are among those too.
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>>157664038
I don't see what that has to do with FGO being practical to maintain, but okay. Like I said, investing in it now is the smart move, which is what Sony's doing. Maybe it can be maintained for a while, but it's crazy to think it'll stay this lucretive indefinitely.
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>>157664208
FGO was going to be a browser game first. Nasu will simply change platforms, they chose mobage because it was what was popular (by Takeuchi's suggestion).
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>>157662835
Anime is irrelevant though?
Most of the future GO anime will be shit, just like most of the game. Especially if it's the same studio.

All anyone's complained about is the complete lack of anything that isn't a Servant fest by Nasu, and the focus of a whole universe on a cheap mobile game due to its financial dominance.
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>>157664298
That's not going to solve the problem though. It might offset it for a bit, I suppose.
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>>157664208
We're getting at least three more years of FGO. It's May and we only covered 1 out 4 parts of Epic of Remnant (plus 'Extra' part which was the CCC event) which is the "interlude" between part 1 and 2. Part 1 took a year and half to be complete. Assuming part 2 starts on jan 2017 at earliest, it'll run for at least as much.
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>>157663225
>fanservice appearance is the same as the entire franchise being consumed and constantly linked to a mobile game
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>>157664305
>All anyone's complained about is the complete lack of anything that isn't a Servant fest by Nasu,
Which is only you and a few of sour grapes in the western fanbase? Most nips care only about the Servants. Why do you think Nasu eliminated the no Servants in Extella?
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>>157664381
I guess we'll just have to wait and see if it's still making the same amount in three years time. Dunno, maybe it will.
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>>157664381
*Jan 2018 FUCK
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>>157664123
T-M is still alive because of casuals, not people who play Extra and read Prototype
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>>157664298
>(by Takeuchi's suggestion)
Why does he ruin everything?
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>>157664461
The story was planned two parts tentatively with part 1 as complete in case it didn't do well. Now they are doing part 2, so it's going to stick to it to the end. after that is up to Nasu/Sony.
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>>157664429
Exactly, that's all I said. Nip shit-eaters only care about the "cool" aspect and fanservice, which is why there's a risk of Nasu being completely stuck to FGO and shitty Servant-obsessed games like Extella. Those fucks are the ones paying exorbitant amounts of cash in a gacha mobage.
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>>157664470
Yes, and at this rate it'd be better off dead and buried.
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>>157630204
Rest in seventeen pieces.
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>>157664616
Like Tsukihime?
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>>157664507
He was the one who forced the gender bent to prevent a sausage fest
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I hate Grand Order so fucking much. Literally ruined Fate for me.
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>>157665816
All of TM, if GO is its future.
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>>157666255
>wanting people to lose their jobs because you're salty it no longer panders your headcanon
You can just ignore it.
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>>157665942
>EOP
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>>157627572
I'm alright with Tsuki being dead if it saves it from being whored out.
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>Muh Tsukihime is dead
You will never able to read Tsukihime Remake because no one will translate it. Same for DDD, CCC, Maho. I bet there is only 3-4 people who know Japanese ITT. Glad you can read F/SF at least
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>>15766639
Most of Grand Order's fanbase is the EOP dumbasses.
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>>157666600
>I bet there is only 3-4 people who know Japanese ITT
どうも
>Glad you can read F/SF at least
I couldn't give a toss about it, to be honest. If DDD v3 drops within the next decade or so I might pick that up, or at least something that follows up on SnS.
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>>157666378
You don't know what headcanon is.
And no, no TM fan can ignore it when a fucking mobile game is the center of TM now.
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>>157653700
Who?

And zero is not unmemorable. It had amazing action set pieces. The characters were more interesting and it had a lot more strong scenes.
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>>157666600
I seriously doubt the remake won't be translated, just be prepared to wait half a decade like the original.
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>>157666767
It was a shitty eroge VN before, stop thinking TM is high literature.
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>>157666395
He's right though, FGO has almost nothing of what made FSN/HA charming. It's mass produced shit with a few drops of Nasu's good ideas thrown in, it's hard to not be somewhat soured by it.
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>>157655983
Good bait.
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>>157666660
Woah. Hot news, retard. Maybe "tsukihime" fags are better? Wester TM community is pure cancer.
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>>157666855
It was a good VN and is still good with the h scenes removed.
Ero content was a small part of FSN to pander to otaku, most of FGO is pandering mobage shit.
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>>157666858
>He's right though, FGO has almost nothing of what made FSN/HA charming.
What would that bed? The badly written 'dates' and sex scenes? Or the endless and mindnumbing pointless filler like "Cooking with Shirou"?
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>>157666930
>moogy
Laughing.
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>>157652580

The difference here is that Bleach was-

>supporting characters (protagonists) vs. supporting characters (antagonists)

One of those supporting characters is temporarily stepping in and acting as your primary window to the events of the conflict. In Zero, everybody felt like a third party.
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>>157666997
Moogy-dono is always right.
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>>157633626
For a while. Aniplex distributes Ufotable and Shaft. FGO's other sponsor is Sony. You do the math.
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>>157666938
>>157666930
People who can read Japanese think it's shit.
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Reminder Takeuchi is literally the CEO of TM he can't be fired as long as he makes money which he does
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>>157666855

Seeing as how the definition of eroge is "anything with explicit sex", it's pretty useless for judging the content of a story.
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>>157666984
No. The surprisingly well written protagonist, consistent shift towards darker tones as you slowly reach HF, consistent character designs that actually fit instead of shoving in guest artists, lack of filler content and focus on scenes that flesh out the characters in ways that will be relevant to the story instead of background lore, very developed main heroines with many flaws, and a good balance between heroic spirits to (spice things up) and fully original human characters that often take the main stage instead of the superhumans.
Just to name a few off the top of my head, none of those are in FGO.
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>>157667204
It was just a fanservice VN that genderswapped King Arthur to pander to lonely otaku. You are really mistaking Type Moon shit with Wuthering Heights or something.
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>>157667099
Yeah right. Still one of the most popular and well rated VNs of all time among Nips, regardless of your meme translators.
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>>157667099
Japanese think Tsukihime is shit.
Source: my ass
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>>157667293
>Comparing a VN to a mobage
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>>157667201
He's unironically good at making money.
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>>157667201

And we should have a problem with that because...?
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>>157667494
>backpedalling
Yes, as I've said, I think mobage is an inherently terrible medium for a proper Fate story. Many of those could still happen in a mobage though, they just didn't because GO is bad.
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>>157667776
>GO is bad
To be fair, some chapters are pretty good.
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>>157666600
I can't bring myself to care about DDD anymore knowing that Nasu will never write more of it. People may complain about Tsukihime sitting in it's grave but DDD already had it's funeral reception and is long buried soon to be followed by Mahoutsukai which is a shame because I really liked Alice.
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>>157667845
Yeah, the ones Nasu bothered to put effort into, and the only reason anyone should read it. Overall it's a bad game, so it's normal that it soured some TM fans.
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>>157667099
I'm japanese and all my friends are japanese and we all think it's good.
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>>157667849
Is DDD even good?
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>>157665942
How? Grand Order doesn't negatively affect the original FSN in any way shape or form. In fact, it actually helps so that the Heaven's Feel movies will get a bigger budget. Hell we may even get more stuff like a Hollow Ataraxia anime or even more Carnival Phantasm. The better Grand Order does, the more we get to see better adaptations of classic FSN.
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>>157668178
Yes, it's classic Nasu if you really like his older style. Granted the first volume was awkward to read but the second one was really good.
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>>157668280
Fate fans aren't complaining, these are Tsukihime powerlevel shitters who whine pretending they care about Fate.
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>>157668677
Why though? Their remake will get released eventually.
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>>157669260
>Their remake will get released eventually.

I don't think Nasu has worked on it in years
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>>157668178
Great until last chapter. I hate last chapter so much
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>>157668280
>new Carnival Phantasm
>it's filled with GO's shitty designs taking time from the original cast to pander to the new audience
No thanks. I'd rather Nasu make something new that isn't half-trash, than constant adaptations of really old shit.
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>>157658856
Aside from literally every Nintendo game and a couple of RPGs from the 90s/early-2000s, what video game has had censorship in modern times?
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>>157668677
As a Fatefag who thinks Fate is drained to death and Servants shouldn't be the only focus of any Fate work, I disagree.
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>>157669710
Carnival Phantasm humor was not better
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>>157669412
>I can’t reveal anything concrete yet at the moment, but rest assured that we’ve been making progress on various titles within TYPE-MOON. I’d like to apologize about not having anything to say right now. But all I can say is that as long as FGO is in service, I just have to make the Tsukihime R collaboration a dream come true.
>That’s why I feel that producing good content for FGO and releasing Tsukihime R are the duties entrusted to me and all of TYPE-MOON. After all, I also want to see SSR Arcueid Brunestud happen!

From March this year. There's hope, even if just a little. I just don't want it to be flooded with GOshit because of the lore connections.
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>>157669412
>TM ACE tsukihime remake articles
>"I don't think Nasu has worked on it in years"
I hate you. You're pure cancer
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>>157669790
Than what?
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>>157669741
I wasn't keeping track of which games were nintendo games, but I think they all were. Hope you're right.
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>>157669882
To be fair, the last solid update was 2015. Last year we just got 1 page with that shitty Takeuchi pic where Arc looks more Saber than ever.
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>>157669903
>new Carnival Phantasm
>it's filled with GO's shitty designs taking time from the original cast to pander to the new audience
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Half this shit isn't even translated, literally who cares. Fate is dead.
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>>157669882
>"I've been working on this for a decade and have nothing to show for it except a few pieces of art but I'm totally working on it, trust me. After all, I have to get it into the game I actually care about now."

Very reassuring.
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>>157670070
Well DS3 is taking up his time, and next month is Splatoon 2 eventually he'll just fuck off and play DQ XI, then there's Bloodbourne 2
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>>157670070
Do you expect him to show you the script?
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>>157670070
>the game I actually care about now
Fuck off with your headcanon GOfag.
If he only cared about GO and its Servant wank he wouldn't even mind Tsukihime staying out of it. It's not like the newfag audience who plays it cares about Tsuki.
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>>157669961
That wasn't about the humour at all though?
It was about all the new characters I dislike being shoved into CP.
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>>157670070
>have nothing to show for it except a few pieces of art
What the fuck do you want him to show?
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A FGO Carnival Phantasm would be pretty cool actually.
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>>157670353
No, no it wouldn't.
The original game already has plenty of comedy moments. 12 OVA episodes would just be a clusterfuck with too many characters.
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>>157670149
>>157670286
Literally anything aside from the promotional art usually showcased when a project is first announced, not 7 years in.
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>>157670516
What is that "anything"? Parts of the VN?
It's obvious it was delayed for a long time thanks to Fate, but they have shown a new character and talked about differences in the setting from the original.
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>>157670510
Just make theme focused episodes. One with the Hassans, one with the KotR, one with the Onis, one with the Emiya family and more.
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>>157670353
I just want to see the events animated.
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>>157670516
>anything
What do you want? Concept designs are not enough for you?
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>>157670353
I'd rather a normal CP to be honest. We never got proper Mahoyo or Kara based episodes.
It would be more fitting to get Shiki meeting Shiki and whatnot.
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>>157670010
FGO will have an official English release in Summer.
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>>157670010
>Fate is dead
>HF has 3 movies
>Apoc coming out this summer
>Extra anime airing this upcoming winter

The only thing left it just Hollow, Proto, and SF
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>>157671674
It'll be another year before it gets to the good stuff.
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>>157671674
>FGO
That's what killed Fate's creative value for good.
Pray for Tsukihime news soon.
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>>157671760
i assume he meant in the west, in which case it was never alive to begin with
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>>157671885
All those anime are coming out in the west dumbass, only HF is delayed.
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>>157671863
>Pray for Tsukihime news soon.
translation WHEN amright?
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>>157671935
That'll happen eventually. An anime of it might come sooner, when ufotable is done with HF.
What matters most is that Nasu actually finishes the damn thing,
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>>157671975
>That'll happen eventually.
Mahou was released in 2012.
Shortest TM VN ever. No routes.
Still untranslated
Same for CCC.
This is not 2008 anymore. Fan-translations are dead.
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>>157627270
Regardless if Alter or not, choosing Jeanne is always a wise choice, be it for lawful glory or tsundere glory.
>>157627572
You know she will have her time soon right?
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>>157672176
It was translated up to ch. 7 recently. FHA took 9 years, but it happened.
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I find it hilarious how butthurt people are. They can't handle FGO is doing well and people in Japan liking it. I pray for the day the west will stop this false superiority they have going on and learn to enjoy things.
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>>157672290
It's natural to be mad when you don't like it, or when it directly takes away from other things you like.
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>>157672342
>It's natural to be mad when you don't like
It's not like EOP even able to read anything
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>>157627270
>Jannu Alter
Animated Kiyohime is where it's at
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You know what? Fuck everyone, I like how blatantly fan-service FGO is and I'm even more going to enjoy the anime. It'll have fun characters and I'm going to like it no matter how shit the plot will be.
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>>157672370
There are several translated parts. You can play the game and just decide you don't like gacha mobage or the gameplay. And it will indeed be translated soon.
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>>157672342
It's one thing to be mad when you don't like it, and another to be mad at those who do like it.
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>>157672480
Seems like a normal correlation to me, since those people are supporting what you don't like and keeping it alive.
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>>157672454
Best part of FGO will be translated maybe in 2019
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>>157672454
>And it will indeed be translated soon.
badly

>altria
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>>157672532
I thought Camelot/Babylonia/Solomon were already mostly TL'd?

The point about disliking gacha mobage or the designs still stands regardless.
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>>157672610
That's not even a translation error.
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Nasu will never do anything even vaguely interesting ever again. I'd even be fine with fate shit if it wasn't this awful mobile game crap.
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I really hope too see DAA vs DAA in remake from same director who made this and HA battle scenes
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLf9oWUe2fc
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>>157672624
>I thought Camelot/Babylonia/Solomon were already mostly TL'd?

Each one of them is a s long as a route in the VN, what we have are summaries.
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>>157627270
GET HYPE
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>>157672750
>as long as a route in the VN
They're long but I think that's a tremendous exaggeration. Unless you're counting the time spent grinding through combat instead of actually reading, I doubt they reach 20 hours each.
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>>157672814
For >>157672762
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>>157672747
This but I hold hope for Tsukihime R being good.
I just hope they move on from GO shit as their main project, sometime.
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>>157672814
Babylon is 1000 pages, Camelot is a lot
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>>157672986
How much is that in words? Pages is a little abstract.
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>>157671808
Orleans only needs a rewrite to make it less rpgish and it'll be fine, the story and Jeanne Alter as villain (before she became a tsundere meme) was fine. Septem is the only order with major issues.
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>>157672290
It's funny when the old guard in Japan adores it.
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>>157672176
>Still untranslated
It's mostly due to Commie's incompetence.
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>>157673561
Once again, female Master just looks better than the fucking male one.
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>>157673058
Alot battles make up less than half of the chapters in Babylon its mostly just text
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>>157672747
>awful mobile game crap
Still better than Extella.
Seriously, fuck Extella.
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>>157673622
I'm just asking because if 1 page = 1 VN dialogue text box, that's not very much at all.
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>>157672750
Is there any video of the fight against the puppet?
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>>157673617
>Commie's incompetence
No one knows Japanese except Commie?
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>>157673744
>Extella 2 announced
>more Nerowank
Remove Sakurai from TM. She's pure cancer.
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>>157673779
Would you start translating a VN if someone else were supposedly translating it?
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>>157673820
Nasu is the one behind Nerowank, not Sakurai. Sakurai prefers to write about Victorian ikemen and loli madames in steampunk setting. She has to follow Nasu's instructions.
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>>157673744
Extella was trash and the result of going full "Servant-only cast interacting and fighting, hilarious and fun xDD". But it's still just another sequel of a spin-off to add to the pile.

FGO is supposed to be a huge deal and the next big TM thing. Or raher, it wasn't, Nasu didn't intend for it to be huge but it still blew up. Which is why it's disappointing that it became the center of everything simply thanks to money.
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>>157672372
>Kiyohime
The epitome of shit taste.
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>>157673847
If they didn't know Japanese or were doing it wrong or had severe delays, yes.
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>>157672372
>She'll have a new VA
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>>157673977
That's exactly what happened. After years of delaying with no signs of finishing, someone else finally stepped in.
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>>157673977
Too bad most translators aren't like you.
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>>157673935
Nasu did intent for FGO to be the end of all lore for TM, because part 1 was going to reveal how the Age of Men came to be, but he didn't think it would become so popular with this wide audience it got. He began to promote it with a short story of a murder mystery set in the Clock Tower for fuck's sake.
Stop spreading misinformation. He always promoted it as center stage of TM before it became millions of players hit.
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>>157674067
ego is biggest cancer in fan-translations
>do not steal our 70% dead translation!
>start from the beginning!
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>>157674109
I see. Nasu really is a massive fucking hack then.
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>>157674255
He wrote the plot outline when he was revising UBW script, where he came up the concept idea of Roman's character when he was doing the EMIYA's and Shirou's revised script (the Stardust scene). They were working on a multiplayer work since the proto Apocrypha which got reworked into a LN, and now he had the money and the OKAY, he wanted to think about the plotline. That's when he thought about Beasts and to tell the story of "the end of the ages of gods at last". The first recorded lines in the game was Goetia and Solomon confrontation, Nasu already envisioned in 2013 but nobody even knew what the fuck they were doing, so they assumed it was a CD Drama.
The mobage platform was decided later by Takeuchi, who proposed DelightWorks as the developer. Nasu didn't think a story for a mobage game, rather he thought a story and later squeezed it in a mobage game.
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>>157660007
>tfw CCC cannot do fate lewds anymore due to doing official art for F/GO
Slightly perturbed.
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>>157674509
It's too bad because it'll be one of the few who draw Da Vinci x Roman without making it futa.
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You're telling me,Jeanne Alter surpassed Seiba in terms of profitability?

What the fucking dicks
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>>157674434
Exactly, that's why I hate what he did with it and the way it's taking TM.

>Man, I've got all these universe-changing lore ideas, and a cool final boss. Even Caster Merlin, who just got properly introduced in GoA, will finally have a role!
>I know! I'll dump it all into the fanservice mobile game. Complete with a self-insert protagonist so Solomon gets all the spotlight, and have someone else write the earlier parts I don't care about.

I know the mobage idea was Takeuchi's, but the old browser game would've been roughly the same shit and made less money. What a waste.
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>>157674066
>>157674067
I don't even actually know what happened. Which VN are we talking about? HA, right? Surely not SN? I thought some random dumbass finished HA, not Commie. What's the deal?
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>>157674255
It happened the same with FSN. The basics and twists were already set up by Nasu's original idea that was Prototype (Servants summoned by Masters, altered Servants twists, love story with King Arthur, Grail birthing a twisted evil, evil priest, Gil and Cu and others, etc) which was going to be a published novel, but Takeuchi suggested some changes like making it a VN and genderbending Arthur to be a cute armored heroine, which had him revamp and readjust his plot ideas to the more otaku pandering medium.

Ten years from now, you'll know what FGO Prototype entailed. We know Roman's relationship with Solomon was there, as were the Beasts and the time travel, plus was a multiplayer game, but they could have been explored different and be just as different as Prototype and FSN.
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>>157674833
Mahoyo
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>>157674788
You seem ignorant, all the universe changing stuff wasn't just in FGO, but also in the MB spinoff, Labyrinth, Fragments, Extella, FGO was just one of the works which had it.
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>>157674833
Commie was doing Mahoyo, but they haven't done shit. So Mcjon from BL did his own TL and released a partial up to chapter 5 last year, and another up to 7 some time ago.
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>>157674892
FGO is the one that most proeminently features Beasts as actual main villains, that introduced Grand Servants, and had a couple of them directly show up.
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>>157674754
Jeanne Alter is gameplay meme. I expect Merlin to sell as much among the gameplayfags of China.
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>>157674901
How many chapters are there anyway?
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>>157674901

oh shit yeah, once Aoko's game is done gonna have go enjoy knowing Nasu will never make the next part
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>>157674936
A lot of those Beasts are recurrent villains who got an extra power up like Kiara. UBW Anime also buffed Angra Mainyu into one, remember the giant bullshit and Gil in the new revised dialogue called it a Humanity's Evil. Maybe it'll be retconned because FGO already killed the FSN/FZ Grail and wasn't a Beast. Nasu did cover his ass making Gil admit he didn't know about Beasts very much because he wasn't a one of the Crown Station.
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>>157674955
13 I believe.
Don't know for sure because I'm not reading a partial.
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>>157675020
Not sure what point you're trying to make, nothing about that goes against what I said.
Nasu is a retard and GO is a massive waste of lore potential, fuck gacha mobage.
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>>157674788
I like what we got. I wouldn't have minded ditching the self-insert and make Mashu and Roman the MCs of a series of novels, ending with his and Fou's sacrifice with her taking the baton as Guardian of the Human Order, it would fitting because Mashu was raised by Roman. Would even be in parallel to explore their psychology the "human" who becomes more Servant like, and the former Servant who becomes human.
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>>157675558
Would be a thousand times better, yes.
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>>157675611
It would be also nice because Fou could also entrust her the protection of the planet, basically Mashu deciding that her shield would protect humanity and Gaia from threats. If Nasu needed to add some romance, he had Da Vinci and Roman.
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>>157630270
Speaking of which, when are we gonna get a doujin of Arturia Alter and Jeanne Alter hatefucking?
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Jeanne Alter will continue her war-march against the anglo and subjugate their lands by subjugating their king's futacock in the name of france!
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>>157675558

I like what we have too, but I don't mind to see an alternative story that explored and focused more on Mashu and Romani mental state, and their relationship. They are very interesting characters. Da Vinci too, and Lev, and Olga and our mysterious Marisbilly.
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>>157675871
Oh? That chapter's translated? Or is it just that page?
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>>157675948
It's translated but it's missing two pages because the scanner forgot to scan it. One is Da Vinci shaking his hand after meeting him and how he insisted on treating Mashu as a person, and another is a page of his nightmare.
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>>157676013
And where might I find it? Far as I know, I'm not going to find it with a reverse-search.
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>>157676207
https://imgur.com/gallery/8atOH
The translation is a little spotty and awkwardly worded, but here it is. As I said, this has missing two pages.
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>>157676253
I forgot to add: The name isn't Farewell Script, but Goodbye-Scrap. Scrap is the Maaya Sakamoto song that inspired Nasu to write FGO part 1 and Roman's character and story, he wanted it to be the Opening song of FGO but he wasn't allowed to use it.
https://pastebin.com/pr8047Lr
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>>157676253
>>157676360
Thank you, friend. But - do we know what the pages which weren't scanned look like?
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>>157627572
RIP turkeyhandle shit
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>>157677385
This is part of one.
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>>157627270
I can't believe I never thought of the possibility of playing dress-up with servants.

This changes everything.
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>>157678477
t. never played a single spin-off
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>>157674754
Less than 20% of FGO players have played the vn.
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>>157674754
Well, she's basically Saber, evil, has tits, wants to burn France to the ground, and is a Lord of Cinder.

She's fucking perfect.
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>>157672661
Yes, it is. There's no arguing against it.

>King Arthur
>feminize name
>spell it Altria
>not Art(h)uria

Seriously?! HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY SOD THAT UP?!
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>>157673502
>before she became a tsundere meme

What's she really like?
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>>157680467
DQN edgelord that's jealous of Jeanne and Marie.
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>>157680537
I want to summon her, live with her for a while, and then surprise her with plane tickets to France!
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>>157649449
Delete this picture.
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>>157680411
Fucking Extella went with Artoria. That bothers me more than it should.
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>>157680739
Delete your existence.
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>>157680411
>>157680844
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artorius
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>>157660759
I'll help you: anything that is not Fate/Stay Night or Fate Zero, is not canon.
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>>157673886
Sakurai is a guy. But yeah, he's a superior author to anyone else involved in Type-Moon these days. I wish they'd cut him loose and let him go back to writing his own original projects. I was pumped for that anime project he was supposed to be working on but there hasn't been any news about that in three years now.
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>>157681025
Sakurai is a woman and she's a shit.
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>>157680975
Okay, I know that, but his name was King Arthur, not King Artorius, thus it should be Arturia, not Artoria. Altria isn't even close to Artorius

I'm just nitpicky
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This is King Arthur, not the little bitch craving for japanese teenage cock.
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>>157644472
>fate
>/jp/
>not /a/
Fuck off
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>>157681427
What's his excuse for being a cuck
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>>157681089
Wow, wrong AND uncivilized.

Steampunk series collab event never.
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>>157681113
You're right; Artoria is bad but Altria is even worse.

It makes me think of these things, with an ahoge and maybe a little crown.
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>>157681258
I want us to sacrifice the citizens of France to one another!
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>>157681024
>anything that is not Fate/Stay Night or Fate Zero, is not canon
>he doesn't know
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>>157681113
>Altria isn't even close to Artorius
I would never argue for that. Altria is not a name at all.

My point is just that there are many derived female variations of "Arthur" and "Artorius". Picking one is more a matter of aesthetic preference than anything legitimately academic.
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>>157681024
Nigga, my fanfic of Gilgamesh buying a pizza is canon.
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>>157681574
And I want to raze France altogether. We're not so different.
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>>157681623
>>157681641
>muh parallel universes
Fuck that shit. Just an excuse to keep milking this franchise.
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>>157681662
Now enjoy being a secondary.
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>>157627270
I want to have gentle sex with Jeanne Alter in bed.
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>>157681662
>Just an excuse to keep milking this franchise.
Does that have any bearing on what is canon?
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>>157681025
>he's a superior author to anyone else involved in Type-Moon these days

Everything he's written for Type Moon seems like the work of a fucking rookie: some good ideas, absolutely shit execution.

And yes, it's the execution that he fucks up. If you're saying he just follows Nasu's demands for the plot, then you're saying the only good parts of his chapters are Nasu's. Shinjuku is easily the best he's written and it's still ridden with constant potholes and pace-murdering digressions at exactly the worst possible time imaginable.

The "WE HAVE EXACTLY TEN SECONDS BEFORE WE GET MAULED BY LOBO so this seems like the perfect moment to discuss what Phantoms are in middling detail" section and the like felt like absolute rookie moments, like someone who can more or less conceptualize ideas but can't make scenes flow for shit.

London was a master class in how not to write a suspense story with shadowy villains, and the least said of Septem the better. Higashide is shallow, but at least the whole thing flows and there aren't such gaping faults to detract from the fun bits. The only thing in the game worse written than Sakurai's chapters was the Prisma event, and perhaps the final chunk of Accel Zero.
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So what's the highest quality of weapon EMIYA can recreate? What's the most powerful he can manage?
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>>157681449
He preferred fucking Merlin (female) and his sister over his wife.
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>>157681734
Yes. Stay night and Zero are mostly well written, everything else is fanfiction tier garbage with neither originality nor soul.
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>>157681766
A-Rank wolf
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>>157681793
>originality nor soul.
Anon, did you mistake canon for quality?
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>>157681755
Are you saying Nasu is good? Because the CCC event was full of abysmal writing.
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>>157681802
I'm not the exactly caught up on everything so now I'm just imagining EMIYA pulling a fucking wolf out of UBW and beating someone to death with it and parrying B ranked attacks.
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>>157681755
Oh, I forgot: ANTI-EXCALIBUR BUILDINGS.

Like, of all the imaginable oh-shit-I-wrote-myself-into-a-corner patches he could have thrown in there, he chose fucking ANTI-EXCALIBUR BUILDINGS and then proceeded to never mention any part of that ever again.

Fuck Sakurai.
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>>157681827
All right, then let no one, least me, stop you from keeping up with the infinite universes and timelines that keep retconing themselves at the smallest convenience.
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>>157681858
>EMIYA pulling a fucking wolf out of UBW and beating someone to death with it and parrying B ranked attacks
>something wrong with this
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>>157681837
I don't think he said Nasu was good anywhere in that post.
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>>157681891
I look forward to this custom Hell.
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>>157681427
instead, he craved that young japanese teenage pussy
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>>157681914
>something wrong with this
MOTHERFUCKER DID I SAY I DIDN'T WANT THIS?
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>>157681889
>>157681755
Your pasta is stale and written by an idiot who hates Sakurai. It's not like Nasu and Higashide don't do the same shit, meaning that make people talk and blab in middle of tense situations. Shinjuku was well liked in Japan, so your opinion is a minority one. London was OK too. Septem was bad but even Sakurai hated it.
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>>157681948
He imprinted her as a loli, so he was a man of taste.
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>>157681948
Just like any self respecting man would. Fucking a pussy when it's ripe. Not sucking a dick at it's prime.
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>>157681726
I want her to overpower me and take me by force.
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>>157681726
OOC garbage
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>>157682037
I want her to want me badly enough to want that but to also want me enough that she wants me to want it.
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>>157627270
>I want to bully Jeanne Alter in the bed.
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>>157681785
Can't blame him. If male Merlin is one of the best boys, then a female Merlin would undoubtedly be best girl.
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>>157681977
Try to find it if you say it's pasta.

You have no replies except mentioning other writers. It doesn&