Otoyomegatari

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>>157622565
Steppe Muslims are weird. The pagans of the steppes were pretty synchretic in their beliefs (meaning they pretty much picked up everything they came across and brewed it into their own thing) so their version of Islam probably never abandoned some pagan beliefs and practices. Kind of like how Mexican Catholics have entire meals on the graves of their ancestors and unironically have a saint of drugrunners.

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Also, why does Pariya have dreads?

>>157622565
Because classic Muslim women look horrible. Why can't Muslims adapt a better clothing etiquette for women? Amira looks good.
>>157622781
>unironically have a saint of drugrunners
Fucking shit that I hope disappear sooner or later.

>>157622781
Is it ever mentioned what tribe they are? I'm tempted to say Kyrgyz or Uyghur, but it's been a while since I read it.

>>157622565
Hijab isn't the requirement for being a moslem. They just need to cover all of their bodies besides face and hand, which she does. Wearing hijab is just one of the arabs culture.

>>157622565
Before Wahhabism became so prevalent hijabs were a regional form of head covering.

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>>157623248
They're probably not Uzbek, judging from the traditional dress.

>>157623487
AAAAAAAAAA

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>>157623487
>>157623248
iirc Karluk's town is Uzbek/Uyghur and Amira's clan is Kazakh

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>>157623487
Careful with that confirmation bias anon, this is a Uzbek national dress.

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>>157622565
Turkics incorprated lotta stuff from their Tengrism to Islam when they converted.
For example, the reason why westerners think Crescent and Star is the symbol of Islam because Turkic Armies used their old Tengrist symbols against Crusaders

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>>157623733
I think those aren't dreads, just really tight braids like in this picture.

They must be fairly close to Samarkand based on the relative wealth they display yet doctor didn't seem to take too terribly long getting to a Russian border town.

>>157622565
There are muslims in the steppes? Holy fuck, why do they always ruin everything?

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>>157623874
>tfw no Catholic steppe gf

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>>157623862
Forgot pic, it's Uyghur national dress.

>>157623874

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_Transoxiana

Genghis paid them back many fold many generations later so it's k.

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>>157622565
Are you ready for the stuff that's going to happen in next issue?

>>157623816
>>157623874
>>157623936
>not wanting quasi-Tengri horse archer waifus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh9HI4eudR8

>>157624000
>wanting the muslim infested remnants of the glorious golden horde

>>157623874
Depending on who you ask, steppe nomads might be responsible for the decline of Muslim civilization, the Abbasid dynasty was wiped out during the siege of Baghdad by the Mongols.

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>>157624000
Trips don't lie
How about Turko-european cavalry?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AB0k4Itneg

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>>157622565
Because hijabs and niqabs are actually a relatively recent thing. For the past few centuries most muslim regions, especially rural ones, just wore traditional regional clothing.
Keep in mind, the Quran makes no mention of an obligation for women to cover their heads at all, it shouldn't be a religious thing at all.

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>>157624054
But Many Descendants of Ghengiz became Muslim anon
The eternal slav won in the end though

I don't think it's ever brought up exactly what they are. They could be pagan, muslim or even buddhists.

>>157622781
Adding to this, remember how the old man carves wooden charms for the little kid, Amira sews charms into Karluk's clothes for safety and a lot of women pray in that shrine to bear children. That shit wouldn't fly in great part of the muslim world because it's basically spirit / ancestor worship. They also drink alcohol, which muslims supposedly can't do.

>>157624160
Man, fuck the Muslim Brotherhood. They ruined everything for everyone, especially that dickhead Sayyid Qutb who lead them in Egypt. I've still got that video of Nasser and a bunch of Egyptians laughing at the Brotherhood for wanting to cover up women.

>>157624192
>But Many Descendants of Ghengiz became Muslim anon
I know, it's horrifying.

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>>157624160
Props to Kotono and Kaoru
They could have put Hijabs on the girls and call it a day but they did their research properly.

>>157624278
It was bound to happen anon, Tengri religion was too tolerant to other religions and they had no religious scripts at all besides momuments in today's mongolia

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>>157624309
>We are of Türkiye
REMOVE

>tfw being a blonde turk with green eyes
Sasuga slavers

>>157623487
Looks more Afghan or Persian. Uzbeks were never that durka.

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>>157623874
By "they" you mean the horsechinks, right?

>>157622565
Kazakh muslims don't give a shit

>>157623816
Crescent and star was also a Byzantine symbol so it naturally got used by Ottomans. Not sure who cunts like Pakistan and Malaysia use it.

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>>157624379
delet

>>157624554
Turks shilled it too hard.

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>>157624554
>Pakistan and Malaysia
Ottoman Caliphate
Especially Pakis
They acknowledged it till 70s
Also iirc Ottomans controlled some islands in south east asia during Suleiman's rule

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>>157622565
>The autumn months are now upon us

What did she mean by this?

>>157624192
>yet slavshit

Feels pretty good for once.

Also, I hope we get back to Mr. Smith soon. We already saw Karakalpaks and Persians. I hope they stop by some Georgians or Armos next.

>>157624743
Russia is coming, when winter falls.

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>>157624379

>>157624240
>Nasser lost and Qutb won in the end

Truly we live in the worst timeline.

>>157624743
Probably something to do with this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Game

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>>157624743
>>157624778
Snow
Time has come
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZdmxIzXjsI

>>157624743
What an ominous message on the bottom.

>>157624994
If we're doing Cossack songs, this is the crowning glory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeyDfVjq6sw

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>>157624778
pls no liberatioroni kazaki ;_;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATBNKmC_SG0

>>157625183
what the fuck I'm a cossack now

>>157625017
Well, yeah, the Russians show up and destroy their way of life.

The further you go from Mecca the more...lax Islam becomes. Especially in the days before Wahabiism was popular. I'm nigerian and we will unironically go to masjid during the day and then bang on drums at night dancing around fires to become possessed by the spirits of our ancestors.

I know turkic peoples love alcohol and the southeast asian muslims loved pork.

>>157625795
Kinda. They didn't really get sedentarized until the Commies took over.

>ywn fight Bolsheviks with Enver Pasha

>>157623487
Nice try elephant, but you're not fooling anyone.

Daily reminder Batini Islam is best islam

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>>157625903
>Enver Pasha
>get ambushed by reds
>situation is futile and no escape
>fuckit.jpg
>mount your horse and charge down the maxim line alone

Rip ;_;7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1N73Hmvq8E

>>157626006
what about Mu'taizile and Sufiism?

>>157624309
source?
google and iqdb have nothing

>>157622565
She's still covering her hair. What's the issue?

>>157622781
folk Catholicism are one of the reasons why we need a stake burning once again

>>157626175
You've got the mangaka's name in the post and the fact that the character us talking about being Turkish makes it pretty unique don't you think? Literally the fourth result when googling 'Kotono Turk'
Shoukoku no Altair

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Will they ever get to fugg:D ?

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>>157624309
>we are from Turkey

>>157623874
I agree, steppeniggers ruined everything, including islam

>>157625860
Could you elaborate? How do you reconcile the two?

I'm interested in learning about this sort of thing, but it's hard to find information that's actually neutral

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>>157626398
you gotta problem there m8?

>>157626571
I suppose you just regard what's traditional as what's right, and don't take everything the preacher says in his sermon to heart- if he even knows those obscure rules!

>There's people genuinely thinking they can learn accurate info about religions on /a/
Sad!

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man, how are there always history nerds around when these threads pop up?

>>157626607
>this is a Japanese Ottoman

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>>157624743
I hope things dont get too dark. Been following this series too long to end on a sad ending. Especially with Karluk and Amira still needing to fulfill their marriage.

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>>157626735

Who else but history nerds are interested in Tatar waifu stories?

>>157626365
I cant help myself from being a lazy useless fag
sorry dude

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>>157626772
>He doesn't know Mehmet my son and Devshirmes
Anime starts on July 8th if you interested btw

>>157626722
Better /a/ than /pol/ or /int/ honestly.

>>157626392
When he's old enough

>>157628430
>yfw Russians invade while Amir and Karluk having a fug

>>157622565
Anime when

>>157628896
If Shoukoku no Altair anime gets popular i say they might give it a try

>>157623733
She looks remarkably east asian. Beautiful.

>>157625903
I can recommend you a soviet movie about Civil War in Central Asia. It calls "The white sun of a desert. There many propaghanda though, but it can gives you some good representation about that period

>>157626392
There is a doujin where they fug on horseback

>tfw no central asian gf into traditional and historical stuff

On another note I want older or minority religions to make a comeback, like (non parsi) Zoroastrianism

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How do I snag myself a steppe waifu?

>>157622781
>saint of drugrunners

Please tell us more.

>>157623487
How does that even work?

>>157623656
What is the difference between Kazakh and Uzbek? Different tribes? Different history? Uygur used to have their own empire.

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>>157622565
Came for the horse archer waifu, stayed for The Great Game shenanigans going on in the background.

1800's cold war between britania and imperial russia is some great shit. Spies, conquest, fleshing out of the middle part of that Eurasian map everyone ignored until then. If you're interested in this period of history I'd really recommend The Great Game by Peter Hopkirk.

>>157631963
Malverde

>>157624160
Afghan and Malyasian dresses are pretty.

>>157624240
What are people's opinion on Coptics in Egypt?

>>157631845
I want her to give me some leg lock.

>>157624672
Is that a cute Christian Janissary?

>>157624994
Are they singing of Yeshu / Christ?

>>157632132
Neato, I only recently found how to into LibGen and was looking for more books to read. Thanks.

>>157631147
>>157631845
>you will never make love to your athletic horse archer gf in her yurt while cold wind howls across the steppe outside

>>157627073
How are Tatars different from Golden Horde/ Uzbek?

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>>157632394
DON'T MAKE ME FEEL THINGS

>>157632140
Thanks anon!

>>157632061
Kazakhs are Mongol-type steppe nomads who speak a Kipchak dialect like Kyrgyz and Tartars.
Uzbeks are more sedentary and related to Uighurs. I believe Tamerlane was one.

>>157632132
Tell us more anon.

>>157632132
>For nearly a century the two most powerful nations on earth, Victorian Britain and Tsarist Russia, fought a secret war in the lonely passes and deserts of Central Asia. Those engaged in this shadowy struggle called it "The Great Game," a phrase immortalized by Kipling. When play first began, the two rival empires lay nearly 2,000 miles apart. By the end, some Russian outposts were within 20 miles of India. This classic book tells the story of the Great Game through the exploits of the young officers, both British and Russian, who risked their lives playing it. Disguised as holy men or native horse-traders, they mapped secret passes, gathered intelligence, and sought the allegiance of powerful khans. Some never returned. The violent repercussions of the Great Game are still convulsing Central Asia today.

Neat!

>>157632507
Thanks anon. How did the Kazakhs get from Mongolia to near Muscovy?

>>157622565
What is this and how do I learn more about steppe waifu?

Can steppe waifus still shoot rabbits and train hawks?

>>157632615
Moscovy was ruled by Turko-Mongols for several centuries. Ivan the Terrible's conquest of Kazan and subjugation if the Volga Tartars is arguably the birth of modern Russia.

>>157623864
Was Samarkand that rich? Was it not part of Timurids?

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>>157632513
>be GB
>just secured the crown jewel of our empire, India
>all is right with the world, just keep on conquesting
>be Imperial Russia
>finish expanding eastward towards the pacific
>have unrelenting need to secure more space for farther distance between you and anyone who wants to fuck up Saint Petersburg/Moscow again
>this includes those southern horse-fuckers
>"Oh, there's some ethnic russians being sold into slavery by some of those steppe people"
>proceed to fuck over those steppe people
>back to GB
>one man is freaking the fuck out
>he just won't shut up
>"THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING! THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING!"
>even though their territorial expansion is more than 2000 miles away from your crown jewel
>manage to convince a few crazy people with money, bribes, and extra border guards in india for "expeditions up north"
>cue Indiana Jones type shit of running around in disguises, pissing off locals, looking for treasure
>this is what people like Henry Smith in Otoyo are; spies/explorers paid for by the britbong government disguised as doctors and such
>now back to Russ
>slowly but steadily expanding southward
>wait, what the fuck are those lion-fucks doing this far north?
>send out men of their own to explore down south
>reach the legendary city of kabul
>right as the british do

And then the clusterfuck that is afganistain happens. And the meme of >afganistain being conquerable gets started

This is just part one of this shit, there's all these little adventures by people who kept diaries at the time; good first hand accounts. And not to mention all the shit that happens during and after afganistain.

But thems the cliffnotes of how it all got started. Now go read that book, it's a great read that comes off more like an adventure novel from multiple perspectives then a dry history book.

>>157633514
>kabul

Kabul? In Afganistan? That far south?

>>157633514
That sounds amazing, thank you anon. Will read.

>>157633735
Why is there no 007 like movie set in that era?

>>157633830
It wouldn't be a Bond-type movie, it'd be a Lawrence of Arabia-type movie.

>>157633873
Even better. Is Lawrence of Arabia actually set in that era?

>>157633901
No, I believe that was the WW1 era, IIRC?

>>157622565
>Otoyomegatari

When will this get an anime now that Turk shouta army thing is also getting one?

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>>157623487

>>157633938
Yes

>>157633938
Lawrence was about the Eternal Anglo getting Hashemite Arabs to revolt against the Ottomans. The movie is great, only in part because Sir Alex Guinness stars as fucking Faysal, first king of Iraq.

>>157634323
Right, I'm just saying that might be more the style of a movie set in the Otoyomegatari era.

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>>157633578
>>157633830

Yeah. After they bumped into each other there shit was on.

Just imagine you'd spent the better part of nine months heading north into god knows what. The pay and provisions you've gotten from the british government, all under the table mind you, have run out. You've been bumming it between trader to trader, village to village, to head north.

Now, you know of Kabul, or at least of greater afganistain. Even Alexander had to go around, it was that tough. Must be something good there. So you finally get to this legendary city, that no white man has probably set foot into. It's a pretty large city for how remote in the mountains it is, wherever "here" is.

Women, riches, all these nice things. And good location too. Maybe in a few years or decades, when the brits figure out all that Pakistan business you can open up shop here-

And then you go bug-eyed as you see one of those smug vodka-fucks in his fur hat walking down the street.

And he does the same to you.

You practically run to the palace, ready to promise the world to whoevers in charge, doesn't matter to you, as long as the russians can't have this place

At the same time, you start sending letters back through the unreliable network you set up on your way here, desperately screaming at the Indian provisional government to send troops right the fuck now, THE RUSSIANS REALLY ARE HERE

The russian is doing the same, and then gives up. He's been here longer and sees the writing on the wall. Goes home.

Smug, the britbong has no idea the mess he's getting into trying to curry favor and support the central government. It currently has control of the shakiest set of alliances with all the local tribes, something that will fall apart at the nearest gentle breeze. The leader of Kabul is on edge, not really believing the promises this pasty, starved man is making. But is incredibly nervous if his promise of "friends" comes true.

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>>157635192
(cont)

Any tiny disturbance, and control of the entire region tumbles down on him.

And then comes in thousands of red coats playing RULE BRITANIA on full blast, causing a metaphorical avalanche that didn't hit them with full force until a few years later.

There's a small conflict, a british garrison set up, a few change in leaders that makes the incredibly unstable region even worse. Lots of good shit the book covers, but the worst is yet to come.

Everything cloapses, all hope is lost. The British leader at the time, Elphinstone, decides it's time to bugger off and come back latter time.

Beaten, weary, and low on supplies, he makes a deal with the harassing rebels for safe passage to leave.

The rebels, being rebels, break this promise and attack the soldiers and camp followers. Again Elphinstone makes a deal with the rebels, saying not to do it again. Even disarms some of his own men thinking it will make the agreement work this time.

It doesn't.

This happens three or four time, a new agreement it made, it's broken by the rebels, the increasingly dwindling supplies and people make it harder to get out.

Some split off to have a last stand while their wives and children make a run for it, others surrender, others just kill themselves. All hope was lost at this point.

Of the 16,500 (not a typo) military men and camp followers in the birtish contingent that tried leaving Kabul, only one English man, William Brydon, and a couple of Indian Sepoys wearily wandered into a friendly British outpost in Jalalabad on the 13th of January,1842.
>famous painting related

It was an absolutely horrific loss.

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Sorry for the
>reddit spacing
everybody, it's kinda hard to greentext this and I didn't want to leave it in a fuckhuge paragraph format.

>>157633901
>>157633938

Yeah, WW1 is considered far after that period.

The Great Game period is guessed to have ended around 1880-1900. At that point, both sides had expanded as far as they wanted to go, everyone was more woried about "The sick man of Europe" (the Ottaman empire had been looking like it was going to implode any day now), and both England and Russia were dealing with their own problems (AFRICA, cooperation over splitting up china, russo-japanese war)


Like I said, there's a lot of interesting stuff that happens before all this, and after the first anglo-afgan war. Really, go read that book, it's has a lot more good stuff.

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>>157622565
really not enough fanart of her

>>157624160

>this is our national dress

not anymore after we turn your country into hole on the ground.

REMEMBER MANCHESTER!

>>157635236
It is kind of fun to know about Eternal Anglo got btfo. Could you spoon me what happen to the Slav?

>>157636532
Manchester united?

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>>157624782
Why are byzzie memes so comfy?

>>157634166
Fucking kek.

>>157624160
Saudi Arabia ruins everything. The president of Kyrgyzstan recently pissed off the conservatives in his country when he pointed out that their "muh traditional Muslim values" whining was retarded Wahhabist bullshit that had nothing to do with the actual Kyrgyz culture.

What makes both Altair and Otoyomegatari, manga about Turkic people, so good? Is it just the mangakas skill?

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>>157624160
>Pakistan

>>157632183
Borneo's traditional dresses are pretty in general

>>157623656
I have removed them all in CK2.

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>steppe waifu thread
>actually thoughtful discussions about West Asian history without memes
>in /a/
I tip my fedora to you, friends.

>>157624240
>>157624823
>tfw one butthurt virgin ruined everything for everybody just because he realized other people were having more fun than him
That someone as pathetic as him became so popular is one thing I'll never understand.

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women just have to cover their heads. hijabs, niqabs and burqas are some modern arab shit

>>157639418
same

>>157622781
Only drug traffickers believe in that fag. The only wierd "saint" that I've seen mexicans worship is the angel of death, but even then, it's only a small minority.

>>157635278
>Britain
>Lion
I never got this.
There is no fucking lions in Britain.
So pathetic is the british fauna, that they need to steal other's animals.

They DO wear hijab? You are just thinking of more modern style of hijab. They all have headscarf (or most) and are serious about it too (see the twins chapter).

Super strict headscarf like "you cant see any hair at all or even the neck at all" is its own super strict religion thing that is really only enforced in like...Saudi Arabia or something.

>>157642612
Interestingly, the lion on English heraldry is a Barbary Lion from North Africa, now extinct in the wild.

The reason it's used is pretty mundane, Barbary Lions were captured and transported back to England, where they were often kept in the Tower of London, and particularly chivalrous knights were referred to as "Lions", the best example of this being Richard the Lionheart.

In terms of our own Fauna, the Eagle was often used for a long time, but was superseded by the Lion in late medieval times. If it were up to me, I'd say we are better represented by the eagle than we ever were the lion, but that's just personal opinion. We pretty much fucked the eagles habitat now, and you only really get Golden Eagles and Sea Eagles on the coasts of Scotland now.

>>157624743
>Students of history maybe aware of certain events
NO
DON'T DO IT MORI

Don't forget about Stalin drawing up boundaries, making up ahistorical ethnic groups, and generally being an ass

>>157633603
Glad I could inspire someone to check it out. Its one of the few books I recomend you try to get your hands on a physical, just for the maps alone.

If you can't, just be warned that the scans on the maps for all the versions I've found are pretty blurry, which makes it a bit harder to keep track of what's going on where.

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>>157642612
>>157643021
I thought the three lions on ye olde English flagge were the two lions from Normandy + one lion from Aquitaine, effectively combining the areas from which England's post-Norman kings came.

That said, you can go full retard with domestic fauna in your heraldry and end up like France.

>>157633514
>this is what people like Henry Smith in Otoyo are
So Smith is a spy? I remember that he was suspected as one, but not confirmed. That would be interesting to see Otoyo turn into a political drama.

>>157643723
Kemono Friends s2 looks promising.

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>>157643723
You are right, I was just saying why a lion was used in the first place. The 2 Lions of Normandy were used as a crest for the same reason I said in my post, same with the Duchy of Aquitaine. Being referred to as a Lion was pretty common back then.

>>157637848
Manchester bombing, duh.

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>>157643842
>tfw partial roach
I didn't ask for this

>>157632217
>Coptics
You are not aware that they are the main target of terrorism in Egypt? Most of them died over the past few years.

>>157643908
I don't think Man United bombed despite the poor PL finish, they got in next year's Champions League after all and that's where all the money is

>>157624000

https://youtu.be/isRz9dL1_iA?t=30m9s

Timur Khan was a devout muslim who ironically slaughtered 1,8 million muslims, thanks to him conquering land in muslim lands only. A very unique individual, given how much he loved board games and allowed steppe waifus in his army as well. At the same time when being busy exterminating entire cities and building towers from plastering severed heads together.

He was he guy who bought the onion roofs to the middle-east so you can thank this art- and waifuloving mass murderer for the palace in Disney's Aladdin.

>>157642612
Bringing back the dragons would be cool.

>>157639199
Kaoru Mori skill is god-tier but i think it's because we are living in modern society now and long for traditional culture.

>>157626017
>Drag your nation into a war that would lead to it's ultimate collapse and also murder 1.5 million people to satisfy your ego

>>157643723
>That said, you can go full retard with domestic fauna in your heraldry and end up like France.
What's wrong with rooster? It's the only bird that manages to sing with its feet deep in shit.

Why are you guys worshipping this degenerate form of Islam?

>>157631845
Shieeeet

>>157644036
>Most of them died over the past few years.
Unless you think Egypt is some crazy warzone where 10% of the population could get killed off in the last few years without anybody noticing, they most certainly didn't. The main target of the fundamentalists is and always has been the Muslim majority whom they regard as insufficiently Muslim. The Muslim Brotherhood (and even Al Quaeda to a certain extent) was actually founded to destroy the relatively secular Egypt state.

>>157632398
Tatar is general term for ruskies when referring eastern people
They even called Armenians as Tarars back in the day

The hijab and radical islam as you know today was invented last century by assholes. Did you think the women under Sha rule in the 50s weren't muslim because they dressed and looked like decent occidental women?

>>157626489
Steppeniggers aren't the one blowing themselves up though.

>>157645293
Not quite. There are actual Tatars, who are part of the Turkic peoples. The Volga Tatars and Crimean Tatars are probably the most well known Tatar ethnic groups in Russia.

>>157645317
>buying the moderate muslim bullshit
Those 'secularized' women only existed in the capital and not the majority. Once you got to the countryside they all wore (and still wear) hijabs.

>>157645358
Soon enough they will start too. Uyghurs are getting completely fucked by the fundamentalists. Honestly they should just start their own brand of islam that's more in line with the culture. The original version of the religion is downright criminal

>>157645483
>Honestly they should just start their own brand of islam that's more in line with the culture.
Raiding, plundering, slaughtering and razing city? Islam is a fine religion for them.

>>157645317
Burkas and hijabs were pretty rare in Egypt until 1970s, when the Muslim Brotherhood infiltrated their universities. It all went downhill from there.

>>157643842
I wonder who's behind this post

>>157645464
>buying the muh historical tradition propaganda
The current fundamentalist, political Islam was invented in the 1950s. The Wahhabism was invented in the 18th century, but it was considered a crazy backwards cult until Saudi Arabia got rich from oil money and started exporting their cancerous "culture" everywhere. What is presented as "traditional Muslim culture" today is ironically a very modern, artificial invention.

>>157630501
>doujin where they fug on horseback
I have one where Amir fug a horse.

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How bad is this going to get? Has Mori ever gone down particularly dark paths in her story before?

Im scared for Karluk and Amira.

>>157645554
Being good at ar doesn't mean you should do it all the time. World conquest is a cool dream for a nation to have though.

>>157645762
>Has Mori ever gone down particularly dark paths in her story before?

You do realize that shortly after Emma and Jones get married, World War 1 happened.

>>157641045
It's like this every time this manga is mentioned. It's great. I'd like to visit these places one day if it's ever safe.

>>157645909
I know thjat WW1 is happening/happened but that is in the background. Besides the two family raids we havvent had everything turned on its head and its been mostly warm and soft.

I just dont want to see massacres.

>>157645762
Amir and Karluk prolly gonna resettle in Eastern Anatolia or Mesapotamia

>>157646226
I'm pretty sure that might change.
She did show how some of the clans are arming themselves with more powerful weapons like cannons.

>>157646403
I hope so.

>>157646470
This aint Apolcalypto tier anon and I hope it stays that way. Even the gun men bettaying Amir's tribe wasnt so bad.

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Why are steppe waifu threads so comfy?

>>157645317
Not sure about the Hijab, but Islam has been radical from its inception. Read up on the Prophet's life.

>>157622565
I haven't read the manga (but I've read Emma), but Islam is most certainly not kind to women, even without the hijab. But I'm pretty sure this manga isn't going to highlight that.

>>157644939
It's not exactly the most impressive animal to use as the representation of your country. That, and it's all based on a Roman pun. That's pretty bad.

Even the Napoleonic bee is better to be quite frank with you familia.

>>157641045
I respect this fedora for being baller and going full quill and ink, but that nigga ain't gonna pass for that Scantron only takes lead

>>157645483
>their own brand of islam
What's the fucking point then?
Might as well call it another name.

>>157646805
This, "moderate" islam is just flat-out ignoring some fundamental (and radical) concepts of the religion, similar to "catholics" who don't go to mass every week or use birth control.
Which is completely hypocritical, mind you. Why even call yourself a muslim or a catholic christian then?

The sooner people realize how harmful and irrational organized religions are, the better.

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>>157646927
>What's the fucking point then?
I don't know enough about religion to say whether or not it's unique, but the Abrahimic emphasis on orthodoxy is at the very least pretty uncommon. Pagans were used to adapting and changing things as they went along for millennia (prime example: the Romans, they picked up extra gods wherever they went). Steppeniggers would probably acknowledge the main tenants of Islam but play fast and loose with doctrine. Same story with for example Christians in Africa (which has actually led to an internal Catholic debate about whether or not Africans who keep practicing polygamy should be able to recieve the communion or not).

>>157635236
If you've never read Brydon's full firsthand account of the retreat from Kabul, I'd highly recommend it. Excerpts below.

"I proceeded alone for a short distance, unmolested; then I saw a party of about twenty men drawn up in my road. . . and taking the bridle in my teeth, cut right and left with my sword as I went through them."

Then after reaching Jahalabad and losing part of his skull to a sword. "That poor pony, directly put in a stable, lay down and never rose again."

>>157641240
>tfw no Mesopotamian wife

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>>157646750
Because it transcends mere Waifuism and incorporates insights into the history of the Steppes.
Mori's talent helps very much.

Oh yeah, do Shut Hell worth reading?

>>157646805
Things used to be worse for women in arabian peninsula before Islam arrived
Fuckers used to bury their babies just because they happened to born as female
And Islamic feminism supposed to be thing during 1900s

>>157647279
Well I certainly wouldn't want to be born a female in an islamic country today anyways.

>>157639418
shit taste.
syria is 10/10.

>>157641240
actually, those full face burqa are rare in malaysia.

>>157634166
exactly what I was thinking when I saw that

>>157646876
any scantron machine made in the last 30 years does not need lead, they just say that to be sure nobody brings in a pen that can bleed through.
Think about it, if it still was detecting the graphite with magnets and shit like it used to what would it do with the reverse side?

>>157646927
It's not like 23-24% of the world population is currently united religiously, ideologically and culturally just because they're all considered Islamic. There are already multiple brands of Islam. Much like how Catholics, Protestants, Jehova's witnesses, Mormons, Amish, Klansmen etc. can all call themselves "Christian" despite not being able to share a room without them leaving it with bitemarks and pulled out hair.

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>>157647558
If i understand correctly the Naqib is something thats mostly restricted to the southern end of the Arabian peninsula in places like Oman, Yemen, and the UAE. The Burqa is mostly found in central Asian countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Tajikistan

>>157647746
I know but that doesn't make any sense, does it?

Hopefully in some centuries or so mankind will learn to do without religion entirely.

>>157646841
Maybe it's not impressive as a bear or an eagle but it's pretty cool nonetheless. The rooster is a pride cunt with a harem of females and it's considered a warrior emblem in a lot of culture, even in China.

>>157648150
>mankind will learn to do without religion entirely.
Oh sweet summer child
Humanity already learned that
However its the ideologies fucking everything up
Remember, gommunism was anti religious yet people got killed and suffered under its rule.
Humanity will be Humanity i guess

It's kind of humorous how the popular media trope is trying to preach tolerance to muslims when Islam is literally the only religion that the Buddhist believe to be an absolute cancer on humanity and the work of those who are lost to evil karma. Buddhist generally put muslims lower than roaches on the scale of reincarnation.

I mean, seriously, Buddhists hate Muslims more than Hitler hated Jews.

>>157646226

>I just dont want to see massacres.

That would be the problem of their kids or grandkids in the 60's, when Mao's Great Famine has the government starve them to death and eat each other.

>>157622565
not all muslim girls wear hijabs

>>157647248
Scanlators are waiting foro the new volumen release.

Aldo, read it for the mongol killing, while the /ss/ is oficial, it barely indulges in it.

Also, the Khan doesn't give a fuck.

>>157648539
Mao's influence don't extend to Central Asia. That would be the fault of the Soviet Union.

>>157648401
>Buddhism has a single school of thought
Nope.

>>157648401
Buddhist are pretty cancerous yo he honest. Ando regardless of what 4chan has told you, moderate muslims do exist.

>>157648812
>moderate Muslims exist

Not for much longer now that God Emperor Trump is kneeling before his Saudi masters.

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>>157648313
Communism (or Stalinism to be more precise) was not anti-religious per se; it was antagonistic to any ideological competition. It actually co-opted many religious biases and the lack of critical thinking, to the point you can find modern Russians worshipping Stalin along with the Orthodox saints.

>>157635965
It's true, not enough fanart of the entire series. It's probably due to the complexity and detail put into the cloth and textiles in the source material. Too advanced for the average artisticly-inclined fan to recreate.

>>157648862
Trump can suck as much dick as he wants, only the retards that drank the kool-aid can't see him for what he is.

>>157646841
Roosters are territorial assholes than know no fear. The are miniaturized Raptors than would kill or maim anything if they could. They aren't impressive because they size, like a honey badger or a stoat.

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>>157648899
i made a fan art if you are interested (even it is not amira)
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=61996468

>>157649026
6 points for OTP of the year m8

>>157648862
>Not for much longer

Your precious CIA trained monkeys were being culled regardless of obongo's stimulus packages.

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>>157648868
Tell that to Tsar Nicky
Poor guy, him and his family became swiss cheese because his incompetent aides made him scapegoat

>>157649085
thx bro

>>157649026
>cyberpunk cyborgs in traditional Turkic clothing
imgonnaneedtwohandsforthis.jpg

>>157647279
>he fell for the muslim lies

dude, their main 3 Chief Gods were 3 women, Muhammad's wife was one the biggest traders in the region and was almost worshipped by people, they probably didn't have as many rights of course but they surely didn't see women as evil

>>157649874
*rights as men

>>157635236
>Even disarms some of his own men thinking it will make the agreement work this time.
what is this, a comedy?

>>157649132
Let's not pretend Nicholas was some innocent bystander there. The Russian Empire at the time was a shitshow and if he hadn't been so convinced of his God-chosen snowflake status, he might have realized that all those mad plebs and intellectuals actually had a point. Besides, being the monarch is not just a privilege; it's also a huge responsibility. Ignorance is not an excuse.

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>>157622565
Before Arab Oil money Islam was fairly pluralistic with wide variation across regions. They're specifically in Central Asia, Uzbekistan and Tajikstan. You should recall Mr. Smith encounters varying cultures from region to region even though they're all Muslim. I think the Persians didn't even allow him to see their wives.

>>157623816
>>157624554
That may be a hold over from the regional pre-Islamic animist beliefs. Specifically the Quraysh tribe that ruled Mecca held the god Hubal, a moon deity as chief. I think that was incorporated into Islamic symbolism along with the Kaaba which is just a shrine for a meteorite.

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>>157645464
To be fair it wasn't any different here in Spain, women in the 50s were also very religious and wore veil and whatnot. The difference is how it evolved from there

>>157645560
You got it

>>157646805
It has always been radical and bullshit, but not as we know it today

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>>157649874
>muslim seeing women as evil
You seem also fell for the (((lies))) too

It's about perception, manipulation and the one who wins in the end gets to write history.

Like for example ww2 in case; When Nazis bombed the cities they called "Terror Bombing" however when Allies did the same it's actually a "Strategic"
Guess who won the war and which side became evil?

And no one would prolly remembers the 2 million civilian casulties that happened during Iraq War

I get it though, Durka suicide tactics are really obsolete but it gets the job done when it comes to terrorizing the population and increase of hate and anger

>>157648812
We all know the majority of the people who claim to be Muslim aren't terrorists. That doesn't change the fact that "Moderate Muslims" aren't muslims.

>>157648401
Buddhism was well established before Islam was ever a thing, so you're wrong. Only the Buddhists in Myanmar have a strong hatred towards Muslims anyway, this isn't some commandment all Buddhists should follow.

The problem with popular media is that it claims we should be tolerant towards Muslims because "diversity" but anyone who knows even the slightest bit of Islamic history knows that Islam is completely opposed to any sort of diversity and is intolerant itself.

>>157650746
I never said muslims see women as evil, I said pre islamic arabians don't view women as evil like many muslims believe

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>>157650351
I know but he was shot without a trial after he dethroned year before
they also killed children without any mercy
they didn't deserve that fate mane ;_;

>>157650911
*pre islamic arabians didn't view

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>>157643842
success breeds jealousity

>>157651188
That's an evil looking Patriarch, and the lack of beard make him even more disturbing.

>>157650775
>anyone who knows even the slightest bit of Islamic history knows that Islam is completely opposed to any sort of diversity and is intolerant itself.
Objectively untrue. It was the Muslim world that originally rediscovered much of the knowledge of the Greco-Roman times, which then filtered back into the much more intolerant Christian Europe. Jews and Christians also used to be a protected class in Muslim countries, due to their "people of the book" status. It all went to shit later, but the Golden Age Islam was very sophisticated and tolerant for the time. Of course, today's Islamic fundamentalists don't give a shit about that particular period because it undermines their "traditional" narrative.

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>>157651488
>muh Golden Age
The Prophet's life can basically be summed as him destroying all the indigenous pagan faiths and establishing a monotheistic Islamic empire. You're getting sidetracked by these attractive sideshows without considering the core beliefs of Islam, which is intolerant and has been virtually unchanged since its inception.

>today's Islamic fundamentalists
Islamic fundamentalism has been a feature since the beginning, well before colonialism was ever a thing. Today's fundamentalists know their Quran better than so-called "moderate Muslims". Allah has promised the world to the adherents of the One True Religion, and it every Muslim's duty to follow the Prophet's example and slaughter all pagans and infidels. This has remained unchanged for 1400 years and no, Europe has absolutely nothing to do with it, that's just how Islam is.

Any attempt to "normalize" Islam is a case of history negationism, since Islam has a horrible track record (once again, well before colonialism and Europe), and crimes in the name of Islam continue to be perpetuated today.

>>157652243
>>157651488
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guYMAycJgYA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUx9NzzTz-0
this guy explain it pretty well

>>157643842
>mad greek

He doesn't know he has turkish blood in his veins like every other balkan citizen.

Anyway, how good Altair will be this summer?

>>157624994
Cossacs already arrived. They were the Cavalry at the end of that battle with Amir's family and guys with cannons.

>>157650275
Leaders aren't usually known for making good decisions, just ones that aren't as terrible as they could've been.

>>157650589
>the Kaaba which is just a shrine for a meteorite.
That tickles my inner fa/tg/uy. Were there specific attributes that drew them to the meteorite or was it just "hey this rock just fell from the sky, that's rad"?

>>157652243
The core beliefs of all Abrahamic faiths are viciously intolerant and lacking in nuance. They're pretty notable for that, especially compared to the polytheistic faiths that used to be prevalent in Europe and the Middle East before them. Fortunately, most people have a moral compass that doesn't rely exclusively on some shitty books, so they manage to ignore the ugly parts and prefer to follow the more reasonable ones. That the Islamic world was, for a time, remarkably tolerant and scientifically and legally advanced is a fact. You could argue that they managed to do that despite their religion and not thanks to it, but it was still an accomplishment.
>Today's fundamentalists know their Quran better than so-called "moderate Muslims".
Wrong. The captured ISIS papers show that most of their fighters are pretty much illiterate when it comes to Koran, let alone the long and complex legal tradition connected to it. Ignoring the context is never right, regardless of what you are studying.

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Central asians still not wearing hijab. It's only for arabian/persian sandniggers. Soviet totally changed their religion life.

>>157647757
hijab are common in malaysia.
the others are rare.
burqa are not a thing.
those arabs must think we are left wing liberal shits.

>>157652922
Don't bother. These guys redpilled by meme culture which is controlled by racists. They think being racist is cool. They don't read or search for knowledge they get their knowledge from other edgy racists or fake newspapers.

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>Japan in charge of religion

>>157652988
Spotted the sangnigger.

>>157653018
Is that a jackhammer?

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Why is she so perfect?

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>>157633830
They could make another Flashman movie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Flashman

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>>157653240
Mori draws the most beautiful bodies.

>>157652795
They were not Cossacks but Persian Turkmens iirc

>>157652607
Thanks, interesting videos. Ibn Hanbal was a big factor in the strident Quran interpretation as we know it today.

>>157652922
>The core beliefs of all Abrahamic faiths are viciously intolerant and lacking in nuance
Not to mention they're false as well. Mohammed did not recieve messages from Allah in Arabic, nor he did fly around in his magic donkey, so the entirety of Islam is just usless to us know.

>they manage to ignore the ugly parts and prefer to follow the more reasonable ones
The ugly parts are central to Islam and will always be. There's a strict difference between Islam and Muslims, and as soon as you realize that, a lot of confusion you're experiencing will be eliminated. Islam is a false and intolerant doctrine, and it has no place in today's world. Thus, media that tries to portray Islam in a positive light are engaging in negationism.

>The captured ISIS papers show that most of their fighters are pretty much illiterate when it comes to Koran, let alone the long and complex legal tradition connected to it
There are tons of verses sanctioning violence towards pagans and women in the Quran. There is no contradiction. The prophet destroyed pagan temples and beheaded those who criticized him, and the radical Muslims of today follow his example to a tee. Unless you're willing to say that Mohammed himself was not a Muslim, the facts are clear: Islam is inherently a violent and intolerant religion.

>>157652988
You're probably baiting, but I'll humour you: Islam is not a race. Mohammed was criticized by member by his fellow race, they all called him delusional (which he probably was). They were subsequently executed, of course.

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>>157653240
>>157653339
Mori is hard /u/fag who fears from men that i heard

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>>157643733
>So Smith is a spy?

It's not confirmed yet, but I higly suspect he is. "Friends" from great brittian don't just get letters out to you in the middle of central asia nowhere at that time, not unless you've set something up yourself.

And also the only european people out in that area at the time were mainly people paid by Russian and Great Brittian to scout out that region, mingle with locals, forge alliances, and generally fuck over the other guy. There wasn't really a romanticized view, or much of a view at all, really, back home about central asia. No one would really travel all the way from western europe from there for "adventure" or other reasons: there were much busier places that attracted that kind of attention (south Africa, India, the carving up of china)

>>157645762
If this follows The Great Game narrative, the Imperial Russian military will be marching in soon to take control. They mostly kept to the major cities and forts, preferring to rule by puppets than by themselves. It's varied on how harsh they were to the locals: sometimes benevolent, and others extremely vengful (still salty about the drummed up excuse of steppe people impressing Russian Nationals as slaves

>>157646226
>I know thjat WW1 is happening/happened but that is in the background

The era is actually around 1850-1870, long before world war 1.

Great Brittian and Russsia are fighting over central asia in a series of proxy wars and shadowboxing, a sort of smaller version of the cold war that came 100 years later.

>>157649026
I never thought I'd see my two favorite things combined like this, thank you very much!

Islamic culture in media is so cherrypicked, it's not even funny. Basically they just like drawing the old-school robes. That's it.

When we have a series that includes female genital mutilation, revenge killings, lack of even basic education, forced marriages, public lynchings for witchcraft, child rape, gang rape, human trafficking, art burning, and torture THEN we can say we have an accurate representation of Islam. In peacetime, anyway.

>>157653679
so what do you want anon?
you can't just expect them to renounce their faith overnight without doing literal genoicide
or do you want them to reform their faith and surpass the western world?
>inb4 coexistance
Coexistance is not possible unless one tribe is submits to another or there is a common enemy that can be united upon

>>157653792
>x culture in media is so cherrypicked
is this your first time watching/reading media anon?
everyone does this regardless of culture or race.

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>>157653018
>Japan in charge of religion

But in all seriousness Japan actually in this case is probably pretty well equipped to understand as the first post in the thread (>>157622781) notes. The Nihonnese and the steppe nomads are pretty similar in having relatively "primitive" religions which gradually absorbed large chunks of other religions, they did the same thing more or less with Buddhism.

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>>157653969
Really? Nobody pulls any punches on Christianity.

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>>157654148
And neither on Islam

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> tfw when you will never be a shota with a hot oneesan wife

If I ever have a second life, I want this to happen to me

>>157646042
Dude just go. No place is safe through western media lens.

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>>157650657
Filthy Nazi scum and their stupid propaganda.

>>157653517
Really? Okay, then.

>>157653889
As member of a common human race, we must make it our duty to help our Muslim brethren by freeing them from the thrall of Islam. It has been said "Muslims are the first victims of Islam". Just like how you would educate your friend if he still believed in Santa Claus or some other silly bullshit, we as educated folk must help those who have had the misfortune of being born a Muslim. It will take time, but the result is inevitable: Islam will have to die when faced with rationality and truth.

The first step is to stop consuming media that portrays Islam in a positive or harmless light (like this manga) and to name and shame Islam as the culprit for the terrorist attacks. The "terrorists" merely follow what is written in their Holy Book, they are not exactly bad people per se.

>>157641045
Islam pays its five literate members in drugged-up child whores to hang out on imageboards and dump propaganda.
>>157641240
>>157654246
Like this guy.

>>157652922
>The core beliefs of all Abrahamic faiths [...] [are] lacking in nuance.
Categorically false, the abrahamic faiths are some of the most complex religions devised by man. Unlike more primitive beliefs, they could only occur in the presence , and facilitate the development, of advances in human living density and social complexity. Even if we are only talking about the "Core" belief system they are certainly not comparatively less complex than whatever other religious systems you might compare them to.

>Intolerant
Something that is very necessary for the survival of the idea systems, and likely something that increased the fitness of the societies which held it as truth.

>most people have a moral compass that doesn't rely exclusively on some shitty books
That's debatable.

>You could argue that they managed to do that despite their religion and not thanks to it, but it was still an accomplishment.
Religion, especially the cult followed by the Mohammedans, united a large part of the middle east and increased co-operation between what had previously been a very fractured landscape of trade marked by tribal ties and rivalries. I think you underestimate what that kind of relative prosperity brings to the table in terms of "civilizing" influence.

>>157653792
>Implying half those things aren't just endemic to less developed parts of the world

>>157653679
>The core beliefs of a religion are empirically false
Wow, who would have guessed.

>>157653018
Mori has a pretty respectable understanding of the cultures and time periods she writes about. I get the impression she's a big history buff. Most mangaka tend to have a dodgy at best understanding of other cultures or religions, so it's blatantly obvious when someone puts in the legwork.

>>157653991
>Japanese absorbing other religions
I found that out the hard way when I started looking into folklore and religious practices for a personal project. For some reason I naively thought that I was only going to have to learn about Shintoism and its animistic roots but that notion gets slapped outta you real quick once you actually start digging. Still need to round out my understanding of Buddhism a bit more, whenever I get back to that project.

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>>157654623
If you think that these comments somehow put radical Muslims and their robed women in a positive light, then I don't know what to say, FBI-kun. Well, maybe that you are a baka.

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>>157654623
>implying you kikes don't do dump your own propaganda on a daily basis

>>157654819
Why does the knight look so jaded? Never mind suicidal he looks like he has outright lost the will to live.

>>157655006
He didn't lose his will to live, he just had enough of those little faggot dragons and their stupid faces they give him every time.

>>157654693
>That's debatable.
Not debatable at all. Comparative anthropology shows that pretty much all "good", basic moral precepts of homo sapiens are universal to practically all human cultures, regardless of their religion or lack of it. The evolutionary reciprocal altruism theory also predicted that it'd be the case.

>>157655006
>Why are there no maidens? They said there'd be maidens.
>Tiny-ass half dragons blocking the road, theres no glory in this
>I wish I had cool pauldrons like Geoffery
>My feet hurt
>I wish I was at home shitposting about half-swording

>>157655179
They are universal in so much as they are practiced within a natural human social group, but without further systems and conceptual tools that behavior starts to break down at the limit of human social processing. Complex religions greatly expanded the reach of otherwise only weak protections against man's baser nature. Most if not all of the memetic systems currently embedded within the greater structure of society are derived from more primitive methods originally found in more complex religions.

>>157649026
I didn't know I wanted this.

>>157655506
>>157649026
You know what to do now drawfriend; Make Nier: Otoyomegataria doujin real

>>157622565
Central Asians never wore hijabs. Also there is a shit tons of different branches in Islam a lot more than in Christianity.

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>the frogposters and merchantposters arrived

It was a nice thread while it lasted, folks

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>>157655976
w-we can still have a nice thread
r-right?

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bump by soviet feminist propaghanda

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>>157656342
>This is the face of the father that his daughter became a dyke femigommie
It's the same in the west after all

>>157654693
Christcuck detected.

Judaism, Christianity and Islam are not civlized, humane faiths that facilitate development, and the contrary they are bloodthirsty desert death cults that deserve to be left in the trash bin of human thought. People who follow them in this day and age are nothing more than manchildren.

The core beliefs of Abrahamic religions involves are false: none of them are the One True Religion, they are not the Chosen People destined for world conquest, no one is going to hell for not believing in them.

>Something that is very necessary for the survival of the idea systems, and likely something that increased the fitness of the societies which held it as truth.
They also killed millions of people for not believing in their shitty faith, but let me guess you unironically somehow think this is a positive.

>>157638017
who was that?

>>157655976
I hope you know you're allowed to report frogposters.

>>157656407
>They also killed millions of people for not believing in their shitty faith
Tell that to Chinese
>Muh Mandate of Heaven
>Muh Heavenly Kingdoms
>Muh One true commie china
Yeah blame the abrahamic religions alright
Also google Mu'taizila they were pretty cool guys

>>157654501
So you are saying "DeNazification"?
That shit was inhumane as fuck and made Germans a literal cucks what its today

>>157656407
>Judaism, Christianity and Islam are not civlized, humane faiths that facilitate development,
Actually everything we know of anthropology and cultural development says that they were and still are.

>desert death cults
This may apply to the Egyptians but hardly to the Abrahamic faiths, especially Christianity. Also for the record the abrahamic faiths developed in the fertile crescent and likely lent to a sedentary agricultural lifestyle, hardly that of the desert nomads of which you rant who were more likely the pre-historic peoples from which the levantines descended.

>Religion is not empirically verifiable
There you go again ranting about issues no one has even brought up.

>Religion is bad because sometimes people die and kill for it
People have killed many millions more for secular ideologies, many more still for yet more primitive reasons, and it's all still a drop in the bucket compared to the hundred billion who have lived and died so far due to nature. For every death attributable to complex religions a hundred or a thousand times more were saved or greatly improved by the societies they enabled man to create.

>>157654148
For every piece of media there is in complaint of a faith, there's ten trying to represent it in a positive light. Everyone wants their side to win or they have a vested interest in having a side they're not personally involved in to win.

A large part of the reason Americans can be so critical of religion is because there are no blasphemy laws on a federal level and as to why Christianity is the soup du jour of American religious criticism, American Christians are easy targets because even if they're fervent believers, they usually aren't running around butchering Buddhists with machetes for not sharing their beliefs. They're the proverbial fish in the barrel and every nonbeliever's got a gun. Islam, in comparison, is a much higher risk target.

That is to say, people are still criticizing Islam, they just tend not to do it at the same media level and you may not be as aware of it as you are Christianity. When media receives attention about being even potentially critical of anything involving Islam, it usually has nasty consequences (whether it's from their own gov't or from Islamists and/or their associates), so in my eyes it's as much of a matter of "I don't want to deal with all the repercussions" as it is "I have a vested interest in promoting and/or refusing to denounce Islam" and certain countries having blasphemy laws that prevent people from being critical of religion.

>>157653690
Is that why all the love interest have been shota?
Fear of burly old man cock?

>>157652607
Aw yiss, love this channel.

>>157653690
Mori is too pure for this world.

>>157650934
The Red brigade which held the Romanov was surrounded and about to fight to their death, as it's unlikely there would be any mercy for them. As the last big 'fuck you', they also took Nicky and familia with them. Before that, the Bolsheviks wanted to exile them, but every country which royal family had ties with the Romanov didn't want them, for reasons I'm not aware of (maybe simple geopolitics, as technically it's still WWI). It's indeed, as the other anon said, a shitshow. Didn't have to kill or even exile them at all, though. Actually, they should have just forced one of Nicky's child to become their puppet, or something like that. That way, a more successful political consolidation could happen. The Left were just as stupid as they are now.

>>157654459
There are still places that are objectively dangerous to go to, especially if you're an inexperience traveller.

>>157655006
He's had a long day.

>>157653690
Is there anything to substantiate this or is it just dumb speculation like Rumiko Takahashi?

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>>157657197
>Is there anything to substantiate this or is it just dumb speculation like Rumiko Takahashi?

>>157649026
>Automata + Otoyomegatari
Damn that's really cool.
You earned a new follower, keep up the good work anon.

>>157626017

But Enver Pasha was one of the most incompetent leaders of WWI and sent hundreds of thousands of his countrymen to die due to his impossible plans.

>>157656809
>Actually everything we know of anthropology and cultural development says that they were and still are
You're joking. Islamic countries are all shitholes and most Muslims lack modern education. There are even Christian countries that are poor. Today, Islam and Christianity are wholly unrelated to prosperity and development. The Church used to prosecute unbelievers and I don't even need to bring up the horrible crimes Islam has wrought over the centuries. If we still followed your shitty Abrahamic faiths we'd be running around thinking the world was created in seven days or that Allah ordered us all to kill all unbelievers.

>This may apply to the Egyptians but hardly to the Abrahamic faiths, especially Christianity
This doesn't chage the fact that they're all shitty death cults who have killed and continue to kill on the basis of their faith.

>There you go again ranting about issues no one has even brought up
You're being wilfully dense here. The world was not created in seven days, morality did not emerge from Adam and Eve etc. The fact that Abrahamic faiths are false is more than enough reason to discard them. No one believes in geocentrism and Santa Claus anymore, and Abrahamic faiths are equally silly. Don't bring up "muh empiricism", Christianity, Islam and Judaism are nothing more than faiths founded on verifiable falsehoods. They are wholly opposed to the truth.

>People have killed many millions more for secular ideologies
This is such an awful argument, I'm convinced at this point you're just a baiting /pol/tard. Keep tossing around all the words you want, it doesn't the retarded and primitive nature of Abrahamic faiths.

>>157632220
my nigga she will break your back when you bust a nut.

>>157643723

Yo, why is the lion wearing a pickelhaube

>>157657337
I prefer to give people a chance to back up their bullshit, if only because it's interesting to see what makes them think a certain way. I used Takahashi for an example because I sat in on a thread where people unabashedly used the way she represents men in her series to say "definitely a /u/fag and also a manhating lesbian IRL."

>>157655392
The moral precepts *are* parts of man's baser nature. It's been well documented what strengthens them (a stable state, fiction reading to expand people's empathy circle, general sense of security) and what weakens them (fear, alcohol, weak state, honor systems). Religions do very little for the first group of factors and often prey on the second.

>>157624743
it means the weather has become colder and autumn is arriving. dummy

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>>157656156
Just ignore the frogs

>>157657699
Baser as in more crude, or bestial, not as in 'fundamental'.

>Often prey on the second
I think that's an unwarranted assessment, especially since complex religions typically do try to assuage fears, reduce the use of drugs such as alcohol, and even usually end up creating an impromptu state type support structure through their organizational structure.

>>157657669
she isn't manhating lesbian she just scared to have relationship with male
guess you can blame japanese society for that partly?

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So how often do you think these two fuck?

>>157645762
That doesn't seem to be her thing. The most heartwrenching thing she's done in this story is Smith's arc.

>>157658042
thats not how you make steppe yoghurt

or is it?

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Who is this, the author?

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best boy

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Young Oba-san

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>>157657663
>pickelhaube
Dress version of the British home service helmet, inspired by the pickelhaube design. A bunch of different countries had pickelhaube-style helmets around that time. Pic related is an example of this design being used by the Royal Gibraltar regiment.

>>157657923
I'm not saying I think that Takahashi is a manhating lesbian, I'm saying that I've seen people argue that she is based on her works like that's sufficient evidence and wanted to know if the allegations about Mori are another case of that or if there's notes or interviews to bolster that claim.

>>157626392
Karluk would make a delicious Bacha bazi.

>>157657557
>Many muslim majority countries aren't great powerhouses today, this must mean that Islam is to blame (or at least not to credit)
This goes beyond "correlation does not imply causation" you are simply making wild speculation about two things which in all likelihood aren't even significantly related.

It is a fact that islamic unification of the middle east greatly expanded trade routes, and very likely much of the success of the region in the middle ages was due to operating on a single cultural system based around religion. The problems which beleaguer the middle east of today have to do much more with material resources, environmental stressors, and geo-politics than anything else. However that is not a point against religion, which has time and time again been shown to facilitate the development of more complex and prosperous societies. If the middle east was still fractious and practicing relatively "primitive" religions as they previously had they would undoubtedly be in a worse position than they are now.

>There are some poor Cristian countries, so therefore Christianity has no bearing on success
Once again you are absolutely reaching and making wild sweeping assumptions which do not bear out. Almost every historically christian country has developed into a world power, and this is no accident. Christianity allowed more than just religiosity in it's adherents, it also lowered barriers between disparate peoples who both practiced it. A large part of why things like the enlightenment could occur and spread ideas rapidly throughout Europe was because Europe had synchronized it's beliefs by it's adoption of the Christian faith. The positive aspects of the abrahamic religions are manyfold and far-reaching, it is sad you are so blinded by hate you cannot see how the religions you so despise built the foundations of the world you believe in.

>>157658042
I think she raped the horse
Just look at his poor fellow's face

>>157657926
Fuck pariya is cute.

>>157658502
>This doesn't chage the fact that they're all shitty death cults who have killed and continue to kill on the basis of their faith.
That is not how the Abrahamic religions work at all, and it is certainly not the definition of a death oriented religion such as the one practiced by the Egyptians,

>Still more complaining about how religions are not empirically provable
Again, you are not making any point with this. Simply saying something doesn't have proof is not evidence of absence, and you have no good arguments as to why we should give them up other than "stop liking what I don't like".

>This is such an awful argument
No worse than your own which was complaining that throughout the ages some people have died for religion, as if that proves anything at all. People have died for every reason under the sun and no reason at all. You can't just pull a death toll out of your ass and say something is wrong with it without providing an actual argument, or reason that uses that figure to argue a greater point. Many people have died because of democracy, but I do not cast away democracy as a system simply because there is some figure of deaths because of it. So too should no self respecting man cast away religion without a greater argument than a cost without thought to the benefits provided.

>>157658237
Really? damn she was hot.

>>157624240
I firmly believe we would actually be able to get along with Muslims extremely well had it not been for that bunch of faggots. And it's a shame how those events pretty much retroactively changed the way everyone else saw an entire culture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3pFqQbnqVY&

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>>157647506
>syria is 10/10

This.

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>>157659112
>Arabian Waltz
Wrong link you uncultured nigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDA_blfkKNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl5fohd5jps