Was Vegeta meant to do the SSG ritual before Resurrection of F?
>cladding themselves with the ki of gods
>If anything, the show is going to look far worse than it did in the Black arc.
>It's going to be non-stop fighting for God knows how many episodes. Toei can't handle that kind of schedule, regardless of Shueisha's quality control. The Black arc only looked decent because there were a lot of downtime episodes with not much fighting involved.
>Maybe they'll manage to make the important moments look cool, but even if they do, the next episode will probably look like shit (Toei put everything into SSB Kaioken, next episode looks like shit, Toei puts everything into Vegetto vs Zamasu and the Spirit Sword, next episode looks like shit)
>Toei shit the bed again
>Tournament of Power is gonna be fucking horrid in the anime.
>Meanwhile the manga is gonna look crisp and clean and everyone will recognize it as the superior adaptation, because fight scenes copied from DBZ or original ideas like pic related are better than QUALITY fight scenes that are shit.
>apprentice to gods commenting on the state of ningen
Well at least these issues are being brought up before the start of the tournament, hopefully they'll be fixed in time
Why would they already start production for the tournament when it's gonna happen for like four more weeks anyway?
Does anyone have more examples of Goku doing the same attack in Tori's manga?
>inferior weak god judging an absolute god who actually gets the business done
Have we all praised our lord and savior toyotaro today yet?
I swear I fucking hate Vegetto's 3d model in XV
Reminder this is a thing.
>I said fuck, but I'm also trying to keep my worries to a minimum. We don't really know if he means the whole tournament's production is extra fucked, or maybe if a few episodes are having issues or what. We also don't really know what "going wrong" might mean in this context, is is super fucked, or is it having issues similar to 90 where the episode can still come out looking polished regardless?
>Knowing that there are at least some issues helps keep expectations lower though, so if things do go wrong the disappointment won't be quite as big, but if the episodes come out looking fine then the lower expectations might make those episodes seem even better.
We would get a stronger enemy to reveal that Vegeta only defeated an above average mook
fuck it, im ready for some new bad animation memes
Anyone else disappointed that the violence in dragonball has been turned down dramatically? There hasn't been any bloody deaths in so long. Most of the fights now end in a KO or a WERE ALLIES NOW!
I don't know, even with several universes on the line I don't feel like the stakes are very high anymore. And all these powerful beams being tossed around and no one has been turned to dust in ages.
nigga, have ever watched south park?
Have you ever watched Fusion Reborn anon?
Good thing Super has been pretty consistent at that starting from last year's August, especially with this current arc
Anyway, production issues could be anything, maybe there is just lots of stress and drama going on behind the scenes and Tu is venting about that.
I suggest we just wait and see, episode 90 had some behind the scenes issues too but it ended up coming up good, albeit some rough spots.
the tournament is gonna last 48 frieza minutes, there will be more than enough time to talk and develop the lore of the other non-u6&7 universes
>Vegeta trains for a year
>can't master SSB and uses jobber SSG form instead
>Goku fucks around for a day learning mafuba
>suddenly can master SSB thanks to Trunks mary sue healing wizard powers
>tfw Super will go beyond EoZ and include based Neko
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>original ideas like pic related
>U2: magical girls
>U6 and U7: shonen
What will U4 be?
On a side note, I really like how all these different universes actually have different tones and genres to them rather than being just more Dragon Ball. They actually do feel like completely different universes.
Fuck Tori for getting ridd of them.
Can't wait for Tournament of QUALITY
I also mentioned scenes copied from DBZ. You didn't contradict anything I said.
My point was it'd be better than the fucked up QUALITY the animators are mentioning the Tournament of Power will be.
>Anyone else disappointed that the violence in dragonball has been turned down dramatically?
>hating on the tracing meme
literally the funniest shit in these threads
THIS JUST IN FROM AJAY
>Just to clear things up a little since this has apparently exploded beyond this forum:
>Tu's tone isn't particularly doom and gloom. It reads more like an animator going, "Oh man, work got tough pretty quickly!" than him condemning the entire tournament. Perhaps I could have better conveyed the tone there, but I essentially just pasted what my translator gave me.
>Try to keep in mind going forward that some of Super's best episodes have been made under tight constraints. Having this new insight into the production of the show shouldn't change your expectations too much.
>A rushed production doesn't always mean what you get on your screens is going to be poor, too. We've just had episode 90 that sounded like one of the more extreme cases of a poor schedule, and that turned out absolutely fine, if a little uninteresting.
>It'd be best if you reserved your judgement and outrage until you can put these comments into context once the episodes begin airing.
This honestly. Vegeta becoming SSB by just training with Whis in the anime when the obvious implication in the movies was he did the SSG ritual was just retarded.
Fuck Toei, they're gonna fuck up this Tournament of Power too.
>I expected the mass battle's production to go wrong but I didn't think it'd happen so soon
>I expected lots of work for the tournament's production, but not so soon
>arena is big, like really big
>they can easily have each scene focusing on a small group of fighters
Also why do you faggots even expect to have all 80 fighters shown on screen at once? That's retarded
The spirit ball was yamcha' s special move and it will be a heck of a lot more useful than krillin or tien's specials. The tribeam and destructo disc are lethal moves that could disqualify you from the tournament. The spirit ball can hit multiple targets never misses, and conserves energy. It might not give him the power to hit above his pay grade like the other two, but it could give the team great battlefield control.
"Lol. Yamcha is weak, a magikarp could beat him". We all know this a stupid meme. Yamcha was never weak. Even bulma and puar tell us that he just has horrendous luck. He lost to Roshi. So did goku. He lost to tien. So did goku. He lost to literally God(who then said that yamcha could easily surpass him if he kept up his training). The siabaman beat him. Yamcha did just as well against the siabaman as tien. When tien failed to kill his, vegeta did because it no longer served it's purpose. When vegeta saw yamcha's was still kicking he goaded him to let his guard down because vegeta is clever. "But yamcha stopped fighting after cell" . So did krillin. He needed a refresher course to get back in shape for the world tournament then gave it up completely to become a cop. Yamcha still considers himself at least the tenth strongest person on earth and he can sense energy. Granted he can't actually sense the androids so he might be eleventh, but that's still pretty good.
The other team is wolves. Come on. That's yamcha's shtick.
He also survived getting a hole punched through his chest, having all his energy drained, and the collateral damage of two gods of destruction going at it. He even fought piccolo's spawn with a broken leg. Yamcha's a lot tankier than krillin or tien when He wants to be ( he needs to be with his luck).
Yamcha ain't weak and i feel he's been highlighted too many times this arc without it eventually leading to something.
What's with this meme?
Like seriously, can someone show me in Fusion Reborn doing the teleporting Goku back to him before kicking him into another portal shit I saw in the pic? Or are people just baiting?
Anyone else really want the Majin race shown in Xenoverse and Online to be canon? If they're going to actually do it when we might see Ms Buu near the end of super or maybe in the next series since super is nearing age 791
I hope it happens in Super eventually. Also, Neko Majins
Pretty sure, Yamcha will end up joining. They're giving him too much focus it can't just be a gag.
Gowasy needs to make a video about this.
this and a good deviantart thumb might get him tons of views
Sounds like Vegeta needs some love and emotions!
They can't say "No" because she can kick their asses
>Do people actually think Toei will pull off a massive fight like the ToP?
>Wanting a race = wanting waifu bait
Nah, how about YOU fuck off. Buu deserves a future and what better way than to start a family? Hercule is gunna fucking DIE and Buu is immortal. Do you hate Buu? Do you WANT him to be a lonely blob living alone?
What's up with this shitty writing?
Let's do some fact check:
U7 has beaten U6! and that's a fact.
Beerus is stronger than Champa, and that's a fact
Zeno observed the whole Tournament between U6 and U7 and he saw how it ended, and that's a fact.
Now how is U6 is ranked higher than U7?
>Toei shills are gonna defends this
>Nah, how about YOU fuck off. Buu deserves a future and what better way than to start a family?
Yet you specifically singled out the Xenoverse 2/Online Female Majins that neckbeards (like yourself) refuse to stop circlejerking over. Nice try getting emotional but you're just looking for more waifubait and you know it. Go back to moeshit and stop trying to water down an action series with your autism
So does Gohan have healing powers too then?
And the whole ''only attendants can heal'' bullshit is Toyotaro only, especially because it makes little sense
>gods of creation can't heal, only their attendants can
Goku and Vegeta are outliers in universe 7, just because they have two extraordinarily strong people doesn't mean the whole universe overall is stronger than 6. 6 might have lost the tournament to 7 (which is only because Hit surrendered) but they have a higher amount of people at such a high level.
>version with Manga Stream watermark
Use this one
>that glorious feel when Vegeta will job to a Shojo parody and the power of love
I can't wait for it lads
>Yet you specifically singled out the Xenoverse 2/Online Female Majins
Quote me where I said said I specifically wanted to see "female majins" and not "majin race" as a whole. Go on, I'll wait.
>B-But Miss Buu
So you want Buu to make a male version of himself after reading gay fanfiction on the internet instead of after reading a raunchy magazine he found under Hercules bed?
No, Gohan got a 5 hour ritual and Trunks got a different day long ritual.
Attendant only heals is from the original manga, when Gohan got rescued by Shin he specifically asked Kibito to heal him.
>Haven't seen Cooler in the manga/show, like, at all
>Fight Him for the first time in Xenoverse 2
>He's the first enemy that actually feels like he's being controlled by a human
>Literally can't deal with his juggles and have to cheese him from a distance with Ki blasts
I suck ass at fighting games but Cooler will forever be implanted in my mind as a legit threat and I'm scared of any quest that involves fighting him.
You're a dumbass, they're two different rituals.
Old kai's dancing took 4 hours, then he sat for Gohans potential to unlock.
Trunks' ritual was just straight up dancing for 25 hours.
Zamasu is the best character ever to grace Dragon Ball. He has a distinct fighting style, a clear and credible motivation and is the most resourceful villain ever.
The saiyans were more powerful than earthlings, Frieza was already born powerful, Cell had to count with Vegeta's arrogance and stupidity to become perfect, Buu was stupid and powerful, Beerus was a GoD, Golden Frieza misused the breakthrough he got, Hit is an uberpowerful anomaly, while Zamasu went from being barely more powerful than a Super Saiyan to almost destroying all ningen lives in all universes.
Also the fact, that Elder Kaioshin's ritual was meant to unlock Gohan's potential and Future Kaioshin's ritual was meant to make Future Trunks into a Kaioshin disciple.
Anyone getting confused over this, is retarded.
>I'd prefer they just gave Trunks SSGSS.
Agreed, not a fan of Trunks' exclusive special snowflake transformation and it seems like Gohan is going to be getting something similar.
you nitwit THEY'RE ALL GETTING THEIR OWN TRANSFORMATION
Gohan, Goku, Trunks, fuck I bet even Vegeta does
Even if I were female, I would still be no ningen
Guess I was the retard here, fuck
>Even if I were female, I would still be no ningen
I like that. Kudos.
For the Anon who wanted me to make Goku's gi lighter.
>that faggot from days back never post the full Brianne pic
>tfw Trunks goes SSR because being apprentice of a divine counts as some divine status
>Super has no violence meme
>when Zamasu's mutated body was actually his decaying flesh
Black stabbed Vegeta.
Freiza shot Gohans joints in with Death Rays and fucked him up so bad Piccolo had to heart punp him and give him a sensu bean to stop him dying.
Not even fucking close. Bio Broly just looked like a Scooby Doo villain with bananas coming from his head.
Cut Bio-Broly in half, color him purple, and paste into onto Zamasu's right half and you basically got that dumbass transformation, hair notwithstanding.
I hated that goop arm so fucking much. It was the dumbest shit.
>merged Zamasu defuses
>future Zamasu is deleted by Zeno, Black is killed by Trunks using Black's own form
I'd prefer it being divine status. That leads to the opportunity of it being used again in what-if scenarios like GoD Vegeta, or the possible apprentice-Trunks discussed above.
Little bitch who got beaten by SS Goku
>>that faggot from days back never post the full Brianne pic
I'm sorry, I forgot. https://imgur.com/a/qUpW7
What's the point of present Trunks? You've got Bulla to better show Vegeta becoming a caring father, future Trunks is more badass in every regard, even Mai doesn't seem to give a shit about him anymore, and all he does is go around acting like a retarded Bart Simpson wearing Oshkosh B'Gosh. Why can't they just kill this character off already?
with toriyama's track record of trying replace goku and failing miserably, theres no reason to stick around to see him try again. Hes already he values greater amounts of financial success over how good his story could be.
>Vegeta is the best character in this shitshow
>keeps jobbing for everyone
>never gets a break
>never gets to be the top dog
This is why I'm not watching Super.
Call me when vegeta finally wins at something.
>>Vegeta is the best character in this shitshow
Vegetafags are the new Gohanbabies
Android 18 is confirmed to the 5th DB character to enter deathbattle in three weeks, this time up against Captain Marvel. Any opinions on who should take this?
Not sure I undetstand, is it bad for a martial artist to use the same move? Are we to groan everytime a kamehameha is loosed? I can see it being unoriginal Drawing it the same way but this feels pretty reaching to me.
back to your happy meal trunks
>not wanting to feel West Black's massive fat SSj4 monkey cock filling you with dirty godape babies
Hey don't get me wrong. That does look pretty good. But I honestly don't see that happening anytime soon.
....then again they did give Gohan and Broly SSJ4 Transformations in Heroes so...
Leave the monkeys to me father
>Strongest Female Fighters of their respective series
>Both the results of experimentation (either by aliens or super-scientists)
>Both have energy based abilities (Carol absorbs/projects it, 18 has an unlimited supply of it)
>Both have a preference for shorter men
No, he has to have a kid with Kuririn for the pun to exist, those people thinking 18 was going for him were wrong, it'll be a threesome, if Kuriza is canon, so the threesome is.
Is there a worse combination? Forever blueballed out of victories
...what would happen if you put his hair in your mouth and he went SS3?
It's still funny how the anime said that Goku absorbed God power but still goes super saiyan 3 to kick Trunks's ass when he should have anal blasted him just in his base form. The anime just forgot that whole plot point and went with the manga version.
do not consume the blue ice cream hair
for most anime done by other studios, episodes have to be done months in advance of the initial airing. Kyoani probably has their entire anime already done by the time it airs, while most good looking anime will be at least 80% done. Animating one entire episode may take up to a full month.
Big shows like dbs actually have insanely high budget as they constantly need to pay off as many animators as possible from wherever they can find them so they can get their anime out on time, which is hell because there's no break between seasons and work has to be done constantly. The reason gintama has so many static scenes without animation isn't because it's funny but because they absolutely had to.
More proof that GT > Super
Too bad Naoki Tate went to shit after this, pic related
When they brought him back to life, and Goku's supremacy and Saiyan lust for war brought him to the doorstep of God.
Nothing has gone wrong for Goku. Quite the opposite. It's going right for him - at the expense of everyone else.
>Tournament of power about to begin
>Old Kai and Master Roshi meet for the first time, there are women everywhere.
The fighting is just a side show. This meeting and their subsequent fusion into the ultimate pervy old man will be the anime event of the decade.
>yfw universe 10 turns out to somehow be GT universe with SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta and all
kill me now for making this shit up in my mind
>mfw subservient house wife beats YAAS SLAY QUEEN
please let it happen
>Goku was fully capable of killing Buu as a SS3 but didn't
>Goku was fully capable of preventing Buu from even waking up if he went SS3 and beat Majin Vegeta but didn't
WTF I hate Goku now?!
You see? Even in the face of universal erasure, he used his power foolishly and almost got them all killed, just to sate his new lust for life and battle. They doomed themselves the moment they dragged him back into the frey, and now they pay their monkey paw's price.
too difficult to design that many characters. especially for being fodder i guess
With the tourney hours away, every couple of minutes, she has to excuse herself politely from Gowasu and pink elephant to go do this in the bathroom.
So in all honesty, what do you think was the dumbest thing the series has done; that goes for spin offs,games, etc.
And I mean dumb in both the good and bad way so have at it.
Considering how dbs is basically just marketing show for food I wouldn't be surprised
>Kisama! What sort of training you did to surpass prince of all saiyans?!
>I eat [insert merketed product name here] every day! Full of calcium and vitamins!
>Not Lord Furiiza
look at this monkey
Roshi will end up groping smug pup's butt
Leave Smugpup to us.
The most fun part of reading Super is figuring out all of the "homages".
That's the only issue I have with the anime. They can't even make Roshi bleed out of his nose when he's excited. At least the manga is doing alright. The feeling of tension and impending doom of Namek Saga will never be matched, Toriyama had something special going on there.
>Goku: there has to be a way to push myself beyond ascended god form...
>Whis: I've heard legends of the Golden Great Ape - a form so powerful it is almost impossible to control and rivaled even the God of Destruction's power...
Just wait you idiots. Elephant san knows what he's doing.
3 seconds into the tournament they'll unmask themselves to be 10 Jiren level opponents then you'll see who's laughing. Even Gowasu states that they'll make a ton of views. They're just that good.
Jiren and Toppo probably begged U10 for their fabulous hood suits to cover such power.
>cladding themself in the flesh of ningen
And it was a good choice. Solo'd three Saiyans and needed to take an asspull to kill him.
shots like that require a lot of meticulous fine tuning and redrawing of frames if they don't quite line up
if they did more of super at that level of quality control we'd get more delays than actual episodes, or else have to switch to monthly serializing rather than weekly
Toyotaro's sketch of Time-Breaker Majin Baby Janemba
Oh yes, yes I want it!
Donuts, literal donuts. Every single creation of his.
The only good examples are Beerus/Champa, the rest of the angels and Zeno-chan. These are acceptable designs.
And not to forget, the Kais, like Gowasu, Zamasu and others.
He did but Tenshinhan invented a better version that everyone uses instead. You gotta read between the lines.
Namekians are the saiyans of the U6, screncap this shit
He has SS so its not really needed
Would make sense if they had different auras.
I don't know why humans wouldn't be able to use it when you can create Cyborgs that are even more powerful. Piccolo using it would be OP when he merged with Kami, he could solo Perfect Cell with it after his HTC training. Nnot sure about Super Perfect Cell though.
what other secrets will roshi reveal!
>actually purposely messed up the mufaba then let King Picollo kill him
>been holding back for a million years
>used to be a god of destruction but quit to live on earth with cute girls
Is it just me or the furries themselves don't seem to care about Universe 9? Thought the internet would be flooded with NSFW of the fighters.
I wish this was his final form. It's so beautiful.
There is a lot of art of em, nsfw or otherwise.
The problem is that too many new characters are getting revealed in such a short amount of time that artists can catch up or get burnt out.
A single person giving him a design that was liked by a bunch of people and then giving him an autistic headcanon personality and backstory that some people liked, if that tripfag didn't exist I doubt smugpup would be that popular. That being said I do like smugpup because of him mostly because of WAN TAN DAN. I guess one crazy fucker can make an impact after all.
I like his first form the best.
Delete this right now.
Also was he the first angel to get angry? All the other ones are smug all the time.
Whis got pissed when Piccolo grabbed his arm.
I don't mind his fanart but don't care much for it, it's his ideas that I like. I'm not having fun watching Super but his ideas trigger off my own dragon ball autism and I actually have fun for once.
So how long until the next ningen exterminator shows up?
I'm seriously interested in Smugpup just because of the tripfag, I don't know whether to be ashamed or not care, but I'm watching Super right now just out of curiosity to s