Leave Cabba to me.
If Kale will not have a disco transformation like Broccoli i riot.
>I have some slightly worrying news from Yong-ce Tu.
>He posted: "I expected the mass battle's production to go wrong, but I didn't think it'd happen so soon".
>So, uh... that's not great to hear. Hopefully the final results on screen don't reflect the craziness behind the scenes.
>If anything, the show is going to look far worse than it did in the Black arc.
>It's going to be non-stop fighting for God knows how many episodes. Toei can't handle that kind of schedule, regardless of Shueisha's quality control. The Black arc only looked decent because there were a lot of downtime episodes with not much fighting involved.
>Maybe they'll manage to make the important moments look cool, but even if they do, the next episode will probably look like shit (Toei put everything into SSB Kaioken, next episode looks like shit, Toei puts everything into Vegetto vs Zamasu and the Spirit Sword, next episode looks like shit)
What is Kale trying to express over there?
>its from one of the animators
something has gone absolutely tits-up with the 80 man melee, and while they were prepared for huge fuckups, they weren't expecting them to start happening so soon.
>aka brace for QUALITY because the donut boy burned down half their department
What if Freeza's Golden forme didn't have that SS3-tier stamina drain in RoF?
>yet Goku won't shit a fuck and will still invite him
>just getting off on Cauli yelling at cabba
girl loves her cabba bullying
So Toyo's Kid Trunks has blue hair?
>People believing some literally who on shitchan
Kys my niggas
They literally can't fuck it up especially seeing as they made the whole background black for that reason only
Nice try, Virginia.
10 fighters per universe was a mistake.
Why not just 3?
The DBZ anime fucked up by giving Trunks purple hair, while Bulma had hers blue
Let's just embrace the chaos and hope they fix the dbAF tier art in the bluerays for us richfags.
Reminder Piccolo a shit.
Which was the better episode?
Driving school with Goku & Piccolo or Baseball with Champa & Beerus?
Goku has embraced the meta-absurdity of the dragon ball series and realized being dead doesn't matter at all in his universe.
Also, he has also noticed the pattern that his enemies tend to get--- dare I say it?-- redeemed the more time they spent near him.
How the FUCK is Toei going to be able to animate a battle royal, with every team from each Universe fighting at the same time?
Do you think that sometimes when Vegeta fucks Bulma and cums in her panties he hides then away to dry a little bit, then boxes them and sends them to Yamcha?
Like Yamcha keeps getting these used panties signed from Bulma, so he's got a massive collection, thinking she still has a flame for him, but he's just jerking off with Vegetas jizzrag unbeknownst to him?
Is that why Vegeta always chuckles when he sees Yamcha do you think?
krillin has been dead a fuck ton of times and they always bring him back.
kaioken, the turtle and the ape are dead because of Cell and their lives are still shill.
I hope the fuck up just means shitty animation quality and not the actual arc being shit or inconsistent.
>How the FUCK is Toei going to be able to animate a battle royal, with every team from each Universe fighting at the same time?
>Then it'd just be Goku and the two jobbers
It worked in the Zamazu saga, why even fix what ain't broken?
Having to design so many characters out of nowhere is what fucked them up.
I mean just look at the U6 warriors, they're all OC copypastes.
Hit is purple piccolo, frost is a gayer version of frieza, cabba is a thinner gohan, etc.
When the Tournament of Power begins we're going to have a lot of QUALITY stuff. These threads are going to be on fire.
I hope the admins don't pull a Naruto and don't ban us because this is going to be funny as fuck. This is the biggest arc Dragon Ball ever had and they are going big time with it, if they mess it up, this gonna be good.
Baseball with Champa was too memetic and cannonized Yamcha being a loser.
Piccolo and Goku's driving school CREATED new memes and gave some character development to both characters.
Toyocucks are literally retarded manchildren.
> Goku beat Freeza
Freeza technically survived Goku and Namek's explosion.
He beat a revived Freeza later on with the help of Vegeta (who beat the Golden Form out of him) and Whis (who turned back time)
> Trunks beat Freeza
> Great Saiyanman beat Freeza
> Pikkon beat Freeza
They could just cut corners and say that U10 and furverse got disqualified behind scenes.
Which fighter will be that unexpected early loss in the ToP?
Is that really the lesser of two evils here?
God, we're fucked
nah, I wanna see the look on Gowasu's yellow face when he realizes that he's getting erased
Not a fan of how Toei draws the elephant GoD.
The Driving School episode also placed firmly in my mind one question that sticks with me too this very day.
If Chi-Chi wanted to be able to get around easily, why didn't she get a driving license herself instead of being a mean, nagging, lazy bitch and making Goku do it.
Oh yeah, also why didn't she just learn to fly if walking was such a problem, seriously, Videl learned to fly in like a month of occasional lessons from Gohan. So unless Videl is secretly some kind of ki control prodigy with vast wells of untapped potential Chi-Chi is just being fucking lazy.
SS Rage Trunks confirmed for Xenoverse 2's upcoming Story Mode
Chichi can fly and use kii:
The thing is that she's an ISTJ, so she values being normal above all else. She doesn't fly because its weird dude and she wants Goku to drive for her because she's a traditional chinese woman.
Virginia, what does the scott say about Peenus' powerlevel?
Are you intimidated by psychology anon?
Goku is an ESFP that's why he's so scatterbrained but bretty gud at sports
The previously unnamed "Spirit Bomb Blade" was given the name "Final Hope Slash"
Limit Break confirmed.
At this point it is over the maximum amount of my own numbers Kekaroto-sama
>FINAL HOPE SLASH
>Does 1/4 health bar damage to all characters including Hercule.
Finally a proper name for Trunks' new technique
Wonder how Xenoverse 2 will translate "Super Saiyan Ikari" though
>People ACTUALLY believe the Frieza rumor is real
You retards are so fucking gullible. I'm going to mutilate my dick on stream if Frieza is actually going to be part of U7's team, screencap this
Peenus senpai, what do you think of this new transformation I learned to aquire of using while making breakfast in the spirits of times chamber room
its me from the future Go-kun, spirits of times is overrated and for jobbers like Bejita, you should just mafufa the deity form and perfect it
>Wonder how Xenoverse 2 will translate "Super Saiyan Ikari" though
> Final Hope Slash
Probably Super Saiyan Hope?
Or maybe just SS Anger, SS Rage, SS Mad, etc
what did you call be Kakarottoto-kun?! I'll let you know that I'm BEJITA, PRINCE of all of the monkey people!
>After the tournament starts, every episode will have a different eye catch featuring the fighters from each universe in the same fashion as U7
I would pay for that.
Hyper-muscular because Toyo doesn't give a fuck. Not canon.
Source: Toriyama's art for Cabba
princess bejita, this is my hairy monkey grade 3 form
Because you can't "master" SSJ3. Its very nature is taking energy to artificially boost the SSJ level to allow the body to handle yet even more energy.
It inherently will always waste energy, no matter what you do to it. And as time goes on, their base power keeps getting closer and closer to the SSJ form power, to the point that the forms are losing all meaning anyway. Just like the ultimate form does. SSJ3 was a dead end. The only time it works even remotely well is when you're dead, and you can't be exhausted.
That's nice but have you as beautiful long legs as I, the prince royalty of the Super Sand race?
They won't. There'll only be a few "real" fights, with most of the participants reacting to how impressive it is that the big 5 or so are so strong. The shit power tiers guys will do some plot related something to make their presence worthless. But otherwise it won't be a "real" fight. More everyone watching the real two or three fights while there's some generic implied action in the background.
>We'll finally have the U6 namekians, who are an aggresive race and battle like spartans
Were there any fixes in the DBS Blu-ray releases for the Trunks Arc?
DAD I'LL USE MY ENERGYS TO LAUNCH AN ENORMOUS BEAM WAVE ATTACK TOWARDS OUR OPPONENTS STAY READY, ALSO I MIGHT SLASH THEM
nice try toyocuck
toei one is accurate
It's like, shit, WHY ARE THEY SO BAD AT DRAWING AND ANIMATING SUPER SAIYAN 3?
IT'S THE COOLEST SHIT. WHY CAN'T THEY BRING BACK THE FUCKERS WHO ANIMATED THE MAJIN BUU FIGHTS. INSTEAD THEY'RE LAZY AND MAKE SHIT LIKE SUPER SAIYAN RAGE, WHICH IS JUST SUPER SAIYAN TRUNKS WITH A DIFFERENT AURA.
THE ANIMATORS ARE SO GOD DAMN LAZY.
It's not that Anime Black didn't have SS. He just skipped SS to SSR
I mean why use SS1 against two SSB's?
That still doesn't change the fact they hate doing shit they know is hard to animate, and go out of their way to avoid doing shit like Cell or SS3.
If you want proof of their laziness, look at this. This was the official art of SSRage, and showed it was at least supposed to look KINDA different. Instead in the anime we got normal Super Saiyan Trunks with yellow SSB aura, because they'd rather stick to shit they know how to do.
They can't even do bullshit powerups right.
>WHY CAN'T THEY BRING BACK THE FUCKERS WHO ANIMATED THE MAJIN BUU FIGHTS.
Perhaps they quit this shitty paying industry or work for another company that pays better.
Hard to say, anyone interested enough in looking into the names behind the meat and potatoes of the anime?
SS Rage does seem to have slightly longer hair in the anime too
Not all the time obviously. There will be inconsistencies like with every SS form since DBZ (especially with SS2)
His hair looked atrocious in the first fights (Dabura, Goku, Zamasu/Black).
It's like they forgot what his hair should look like and just drew bananas that represent SSJ1 (from his first trip to the past to cut Frieza in half. )
He should have kept his longer hair.
Not a plot-hole.
Goku would want to train Kid Buu's reincarnation regardless whether he has god ki or not. Especially since Fat Buu keeps on sleeping in the most inconvenient times.
> Tien losing to Roshi?
Roshi was enhanced by Yurin's curse. Not only that, but Tien didn't technically "lose" the battle
At least SS2 MOST OF THE TIME follows a set change in the hairstyle (usually involving the bangs for Goku.) SS Rage for most of its life cycle in the Black arc resembled generic Super Saiyan (or Super Saiyan 2, which also looked just like normal Super Saiyan for Trunks in the anime, another fuckup.)
That pic you posted was one of the few moments where a change in hair was noticeable, and it was only from the back.
Weren't the students also enhanced? Why is Roshi the only exception?
Also Roshi was going 100% all-out. He immediately went to hulk-mode once Yurin's curse set in.
Tien wouldn't want to go all-out against a friend.
>Also Roshi was going 100% all-out. He immediately went to hulk-mode once Yurin's curse set in. Tien wouldn't want to go all-out against a friend.
>turn the gi from orange to a more yellow tone orange
this has been a thing since DBZ, how animators forget that simple detail? Also the reason Goku's gi was orange was because his gi is originally red so becoming SS the red combines with the yellow aura giving an orange tone, SS 3 had more yellow aura which is why it was close to a golden color
>Tien losing to Roshi?
Uub was retconned as a white man.
Tien was always weaker than Roshi, he had been holding back all along.
Tien couldn't even hurt Cell, Roshi blew up the moon.
what if 17 was holding back vs cell and wanted to be eaten, because he is a sick fuck with weird fetishes?
This would make sense and it gives a way for 17 to be so powerful just training vs poachers.
Nothing about Black is a plothole
> Or Vegeta going SSGSS without SSG power.
He was trained by Whis to learn God Ki himself, we literally see him learning it
Toyocucks are sad.
So no proof?
Also read: >>157614367
>Also Roshi was going 100% all-out. He immediately went to hulk-mode once Yurin's curse set in.
>Tien wouldn't want to go all-out against a friend.
>He was trained by Whis to learn God Ki himself
Except the implication from Battle of Gods is that just "learning to use God Ki" isn't possible, and the end of Battle of Gods has Vegeta saying he's going to be the one that gets to go Super Saiyan God in the ritual next.
The anime literally fucked that up.
Nu-Toei was just a bunch of monkeys in a Filipino sweatshop.
Luckily for us Shueisha stepped in as the Editorial Office around summer time last year. That's why post ep 71 (after Hit's assassination rematch arc) the show slightly improved.
>Except the implication from Battle of Gods is that just "learning to use God Ki" isn't possible
No it wasn't, that's just your headcanon
"It goes against my fan fiction, so it must be a plothole!"
Goku and Old Kai claim that he was unable to use the Kaio-ken with his normal Super Saiyan form due to the intense emotional turmoil/body stress caused by the Super Saiyan transformation, and attempting to combine the two would mean immediate death. However this creates a plot hole somewhat, as when training for Cell in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, Goku trained with Gohan to remove the emotional upheaval and stress present with the Super Saiyan transformation. Thus in theory Goku should be capable of using Kaio-Ken while in his normal Super Saiyan state.
>Nothing about Black is a plothole
Yeah but you are wrong anon.
>He was trained by Whis to learn God Ki himself
And he still have no SSG power so he's supposed to be unable to go SSGSS
If dragon ball goes with timelines going different paths when the future is changed, then why did zamasu attack trunks's timeline if it's not the future anymore. Like, the only reason black goku exists is because they went to go see zamasu after trunks asked for help.
That time paradox shit doesn't make sense based on how time travel was explained in the Cell arc. Also Toei changed the rules for Zenkai only for Black.
Hey, why do we trust this Ajay guy and what's his deal with Toei insiders?
I thought we hated ecelebs?
You are in your room where all of a sudden this guy walks in
Just enjoy Super while its not that mess One Piece and Hunter x Hunter became. They try to be too big for their own good and end up fucking their own plots. War arcs with absolute bullshit (Magma being stronger than fire but then Jinbei that controlled some weakass water managed to deflect a magma straight attack and O MY RUBBER NEN - Hisoka plus Alluka)
Dragon Ball Super is just doing the standard really well and that's really good, we don't have MAJOR plot holes in super, just those little stupid things that fans argue about.
>Vegeta going SSGSS without SSG power.
Vegeta trained with Whis to learn how to use god-like power.
Not a "plot-hole". Do you even know what that means?
> Black itself
Is this a joke?
Also Black's cheated zenkai existence itself was inconsistent too, it was a thing until they finally animated the script (in which Vegeta kick Black's ass), then Black's zenkai just disappeared because a permanent zenkai like that would make him invincible.
Kaioken SSB x 10 was only used against Hit
Afterwards, Goku only used SSB Kaioken
Likely because of the damage it did to his body after Hit
to this day only pedros and mangacunts whine about DBS
Why does Toei treat Kaioken like a form? It never was a form, Goku always only used it in bursts, pretty much switching it on and off whenever he attacked
In DBS, he's having convos and standing around with it on.
It doesn't matter, the damage to powerscaling is already done.
It should have at the very least turned Hit's bones into dust.
I just apply my own headcanon that it actually only multiplies the ningen part of his Ki pool or some shit.
There's no way his God Ki is getting amplified 10 fold.
>It never was a form, Goku always only used it in bursts, pretty much switching it on and off whenever he attacked
Top kek Toei doesn't remember that.
Trunks' trash hairdo in the anime pissed me off so much. Shitty in-between and trash animation I can excuse, but completely off model art? Toei crossed the line in incompetence.
Thankfully Shueisha cracking the whip on these sweat shop workers now.
> Doesn't let Krillin kill Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga
> Lets Mecha Freeza arrive on Earth first because he wanted others to have a chance against him. Also he had IT, he didn't have to wait a second.
> Could've destroyed Dr Gero (Bulma's suggestion) before the Android Saga, but didn't want to
> Gives up while being relatively healthy against Cell
> Gives Cell as Senzu while he's fighting his 11-year old son
> Revived Buu because he wanted to fight Vegeta
> Could've beaten Fat Buu as a SS3, but didn't because he wanted to give his son or some toddlers a chance to save the world
> Is responsible for the Universal Genocide of several universes because he "wants to fight strong fighters"
I can't be the only one that dislikes how SSB Kaioken looks right?
It's just lazily done, they just slapped Kaioken's aura behind SSB's aura and called it a day. It should look so much cooler.
I didn't like how Toei made Trunks look like a young ass kid compared to how we last saw him. Granted we can't entirely put the blame on them since Toriyama's concept art made him look young
>he's posting the pic I post every week
Thank you, that pic disproves you. That's from the movie, that's "saiyan beyond god", which isn't a thing at all in the anime
>inb4 that retard who post Goku saying he's SSG tier now in the anime every day
We know, shut up. It proves nothing.
Goku/Vegeta with god-like power (or "saiyan beyond god" Goku/Vegeta) are in that god-like state permanently (as the pic proves by saying that if they use SS they will go SSGSS, not regular SS anymore) and their power is equivalent to a SSG form... because that's the god power. In the anime Vegeta is just strong, simply strong. Even Goku is just stronger after be SSG without have the actual SSG power, that's also proved because they only are SSG tier if they go SS, while movies-Goku was SSG tier permanently after master the beyond god form.
Movies-Vegeta is SSG tier in base because he have god power in base form, so his SS form becomes a SSGSS form... anime-Vegeta is just a strong as fuck guy who can become even stronger with SS, (coincidentally) matching with SSG Goku at BoG.
>Is this a joke?
That's my line.
Because Goku is better at controlling Kaioken now then he was at the Saiyan Saga?
He doesn't need to use it in short bursts anymore
Also, he used it longest against Hit. It was short-lived against wolfman, and it was literally a short burst against Fusion Zamasu
>It's just lazily done, they just slapped Kaioken's aura behind SSB's aura and called it a day. It should look so much cooler.
That's exactly how it should look if they're gonna use it.
The real bullshit was the fact they used SSBKKX10 on a starter villain like Hit. Like the fuck.
>Because Goku is better at controlling Kaioken now then he was at the Saiyan Saga?
He did the same thing in the Freeza saga, where he mastered it. It's not a fucking transformation, it's a quick boost in power for attacks
No, he stood there and talked when he used it on Toppo. They keep treating it like a transformation when it's not and never was.
I would've preferred this honestly, even though it would've been even more bullshit.
At least it wouldn't be Toei making a whole new form on their own because they're too lazy to animate SS3.
Pic related was present in both the anime and BoG movie
Merged Zamasu will kill Goku and Vegeta.
Future Trunks will return to the past thanks to the Kaioshin and the Time rings. Then he'll do the SSG ritual with Gohan, Goten, Present Trunks, Pan and Tarble.
Not him but I think he meant in the anime you can theorize that you can turn and off Beyond God Base form.
If Goku was always God tier it wouldn't make much sense.
Toriyama also stated before RoF that normal SSJ forms won't be coming back in an interview but they are.
>And all Hit got was a bunch of small ouchies.
Which is weird since base Goku made him bleed.
> posts literal proof from a screen-cap that exists in both the anime and movie
> "that doesn't prove anything! It goes against muh headcanon!!"
>Not him but I think he meant in the anime you can theorize that you can turn and off Beyond God Base form.
>If Goku was always God tier it wouldn't make much sense.
Yea that makes sense
But Saiyan Beyond God is still a thing because of what was said in both the anime and movie, regardless whether he can turn it on and off
vegeta is the only man who can pull off pink
>Toriyama also stated before RoF that normal SSJ forms won't be coming back in an interview but they are.
He said Goku wouldn't want to use SS because he can train better without it.
Not that SS1-3 will never be used again
Super Saiyan Blue was described in Resurrection of F as the power of Super Saiyan God combined with Super Saiyan.
After Vegeta's comment about being the next one to do the Super Saiyan God ritual at the end of Battle of Gods, I assumed doing it was required before obtaining Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan.
Looks disgusting in the anime when the slaves at Toei color it green/cyan instead of blue.
I SAID vegeta is the only man who can pull off pink
>are ya winning son?
> Super Saiyan 2 and 3 are nothing more than powered-up variations of Super Saiyan. After the fight with Beerus, Goku realized that mastering his normal state and Super Saiyan would raise his level more and sap less strength, so I think he probably won’t become Super Saiyan 2 or 3 any more.
Here he's saying that training and mastering his base form and SS1 form would reap more benefits than using SS2 or SS3
>"Power of SSG" = god-like power
No, the power of Super Saiyan God is literally the power of the transformation of Super Saiyan God. To take those words any other way would be your dumbass headcanon.
As for your comment about training with Whis, Vegeta said at the end of Battle of Gods that he would be the next one to go Super Saiyan God. Is it that hard to believe the anime just fucked that up, given how many other things the anime has fucked up before?
Dragon Ball XZ: the adventures of young super saiyan god blue gotenks
>movie's beyond god state
>the user is permanently as strong as its SSG form would be
>the user Super form is a SSGSS form (therefore, its base form is a god form with god power)
>the user gets a simple power up (coincidentally 50 times weaker than its pre-power up SSG form was)
>the user Super form is still regular SS (therefore, its base form is still a ningen form without god power)
>"b-but in both cases Goku went stronger after be a SSG so it's the same xD "
Sad. You can keep spamming your pic pretending you have a point.
I paint some myself for fun, haven't done a big project myself but there's some sick pics on Shia.haul's instagram page.
He's the biggest DB collector in the world.
Yes, and >>157615996 ALSO came from Toriyama.
God-like power can refer to the form's strength, but the form is also connected to Super Saiyan God when referring to the source of that power.
Better start drawing everyone with noodle arms then
Source: Toriyama's art for everyone
You forgot "next time".
He was pissed Goku was the one who got to go Super Saiyan God wanted to be the one who gets to use it next. That's the context at the end of the film. Stop using dumbass headcanons.
>goku has now been blessed with the mystical super saiyan god form
>eventually the form burns out, but he will always have it within him
>somehow absorbs beerus' blast to destroy the earth
>goku's super saiyan form now has god energy
>eventually it turns blue after training with whis/vegeta
>Vegeta: "...turn god!"
Yes SSG. That was the only method of becoming a God, so there was nothing else he could have meant.
Also during the SSG ritual Vegeta was saying how come Goku gets to be the God?
when did Toriyama start to draw like this? Even his Dragon Quest art is feminine as fuck.
Did Toriyama become gay?
Anything looks good on Torankusu.
hope u know that myers briggs is pretty much cold reading/reactionary science and most people dont fit very neatly into the personality types.
I know youre probably just joking around right now but if you put any actual weight into that stuff youre wasting your time
>in the movies they can switch off the beyond god form
But that's headcanon.
>That's why SSB doesn't permanently replace SS
SSB doesn't permanetly replace SS because they can switch off the god power... now, in the manga, that's the point of bring back SSG.
Their regular Super form is SS, their godly Super form is SSGSS, so if they will have 2 different Super forms, they need 2 different base forms, that's why SSG is back, because they need a different base form and movie-Goku and movie-Vegeta had only one base form.
The movies are separate from bothe anime AND manga, and therefore both the anime and manga have inconsistencies towards the movie.
I still prefer how the manga handles SSG though, making it the new Godly base form instead of a permanent Saiyan Beyond God.