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>>157461101
Our main goal right now should be to compare the characters with the other ones in the same line/column and see if they fit there.
Any requests to move a character around will be considered but please use arguments and if nobody disagrees, it will be done.
If you have a better pic for a character, post it and I'll change
We can finish it today, I believe in you guys
>Pick a character
>Do they suffer more than the character below but less than the character above?
>Do they deserve it more than the character to the left but less than the character to the right?
>If yes to both, character is placed correctly in relation with its neighbors
>If not, change accordingly
Then keep going until the chart starts making sense. Ideally, considering characters belong to different genres, suffering would be relative to the character and should be valued on how much of a big deal it is for him/her
>>157583660
Switch Eva Heinemann with Angelo Lagusa
>>157583722
Anyone against this?
Btw guys we have 6 slots left, any character with high deserve/suffering could fit in
>>157583660
>mc from fire punch that high
come on now
>>157583676
Just remember not to pick Okabe, Homura, Or Touma, as a royal shit storm will occur if you do
>>157583660
S:70
D:90
Man, these threads always happen at night for me and I miss them.
>>157583660
>Mr. Braun only on 40 suffering
SERN forces him to choose between his wife and his daughter, they then Jellify his wife, who he then realises was pregnant at the time.
Probably deserves to be a little bit higher, if we are consider Brownian Motion canon.
>>157584123
Switch Braun and Akane
>>157584123
If that's all that happens then he shouldn't be THAT high up. Compare him with other characters.
>>157584258
He also kills himself.
>>157584123
He's in the same line as Edward from FMA and I think Ed suffered more than him
>>157583754
I forgot to mention it last thread, but Sumida from Himizu would a good high suffering character. The only problem is that his other number would be fairly low and all those spots are filled already.
>>157583660
where did you put blackwargreymon?
>>157583923
I really need to rewatch that
Added
>>157583722
Since nobody was against this, switched.
>>157584097
Well, you're here now!
>>157583789
>watched his parents get murdered
>watched his sister and fellow townsmen burn to death
>spent eight years uncontrollably on fire wandering an empty wasteland of ice, unable to eat or sleep
And that's only the prologue of the manga.
>>157583660
Victor from Yuri on Ice should be replaced with someone else.
>>157584446
Didn't he cut off his arms to feed his village too?
>>157584372
then it that case why is Mumen Rider on the same tier? He just gets beaten up a lot
>>157583660
S: 90
D: 35
>>157584372
I say we switch Ed with Onizuka.
>>157583660
The guy from Rainbow in S70 D90
>>157584372
>>157584552
In the 40S line, do you guys think that the character out of place are Braun/Ed or Mumen rider?
>>157584493
Yeah, and murdered a guy that tried to rape his sister.
>>157584584
>S: 90
>Only had his family killed
S: 90
D: 35
>>157583660
Yang for S80 D50?
>>157584606
Yeah I don't think Onizuka suffered more than Ed
Anyone against this?
>>157584491
Is he in the wrong place?
>>157584720
check the chart, hes S100, D 35
>>157584720
oh shit missed him never mind
Shouldn't Apollo Granz be highest tier?
Dude did die in agonizing pain for literally thousands of years. non stop pain.
>>157584623
yeah Ishihara
>>157584852
Maybe he should be put next to Diavolo then
>>157584738
Can you give me a good pic?
>>157584852
>>157584887
We could put him next to Diavolo, anyone against this?
Current Kohaku's position is wrong and it was already discussed in the previous thread. The anon who requested this change canceled his request later. Please move her back at S70 D90, she shouldn't be higher than Sakura.
>>157584749
Hey Op, why is a character from a Chinese Puppetry show (S45D75) in the chart?
Also, there's no way that Togo (S75D50) suffered more than Saber or even zero Lancer.
>>157584738
He died and I cried, but he really didn't suffer this much
>>157584738
>>157584887
Yeah that's what I was thinking.
>>157584720
Nevermind be already being in the already, how can you think that Agni is only S90?
>>157584951
The guy was literally forced emotionally and morally into going to war even though he wanted to be a historian and was full of regrets for killing millions of people, and when he finally retired he got fucked over by the country he saved many times, died a shitty death at the hands of a fodder, all alone in a dark corridor
>>157583660
Rem is really low
>Her race wants to kill her as soon as she's born
>Saved only by her sister's power. Village spends the next 8 years constantly reminding her she's only alive because her sister is cool
>Village is destroyed and her entire race is basically destroyed except for her and her sister, who becomes crippled
>Has to try and finish off the guys responsible and gets all her bones broken when she was 8
>Boss is a shitty clown who will throw her in the trash randomly for stupid plots
>Complexes out the ass from all of the above, and is pretty much deranged
Then the actual story starts, ignoring terrible things happening in individual loops she still gets her heart pretty much torn out by Subaru and then when she thinks things are kind of moving forward she gets deleted.
I'm not sure exactly where she'd be since I can't see particular logic behind placement, but you've got her significantly below characters that their main angst is a single one of the above things. Sayaka basically just has the 'The boy I like likes another girl' thing that Rem had in just the main series and she's three steps higher on the 'suffering' scale
>>157583660
>OH MY RUBBER NEN was tricked, mangled by explosion and died from suffocation
>suffering: 25
>>157584606
Done
>>157584909
Her spot was taken but I can switch her back.
>>157584928
We could swap her with Lancer and then Lancer with Saber. But would Saber fit in the 75S line?
>>157584951
What do you think? >>157585028
>>157583660
why does Kakeru deserves to suffer more than Moguro? He literally did nothing wrong. Surprised to see him even on this list.
>>157584990
He was able to cope with and disregard his continuous pain.
Also looking at the recent chapter he is going to be somewhat happy.
>>157585061
>implying that faggot clown didn't enjoy it
>>157584684
>A skeleton whos only purpose is to bestow justice on the earth because that's all he has left
>Along the way makes friends who eventually die
>Sacrifices himself to save the one city that defied him
I can't believe /a/ doesn't have as much respect for this man as he once had here,
If I could I would put him past the 100 100 mark.
He is the one anime character that deserves the highest praise there is for a 2 dimensional character.Remember when he was on /a/'s soccer team?
Not to mention that amazing ending song on the final episode.
>>157585152
It doesn't matter. He obviously got more than fucking autistic neet Tomoko Kuroki who was just being bullied.
What do you guys think about >>157585051 ? Should Rem go up 1-2 blocks?
>>157585110
We could move him to Moguro's spot if you want
>>157584584
>>157585153
Anyone against this?
Isn't he an outlaw too? I think his D should be higher and his S a little bit lower
>>157583660
Please move Sonoko to the left. She did absolutely nothing to deserve what happened to her nor did she have any say or means to stop it, and even then she keep fighting, alone, against a enemy that was impossible to definitely beat until she literally couldn't survived without heavy equipment so more people didn't have to go through what she did. She deserves less than a few of the D0.
>>157585153
>Remember when he was on /a/'s soccer team?
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//a/_Roster
He's still on the team, he's just been replaced by Megumin as the second gold medal.
>>157584749
No, he just doesn't belong on the chart because nothing bad happens to him. Why did someone even put him on the chart?
where would be his position?
>>157585028
>>157585089
Of course, Yang's life was pretty shitty but it wasn't devoid of happiness. He had friends and comrades, he loved and been loved back.
He belongs to S70 or 75 axis
If only we could replace YuYuYu heroine on S75 D50 with him.
>>157585394
>because nothing bad happens to him
>is a faggot
?
>>157585135
He is completely insane in the recent chapters, hardly what I would call 'somewhat happy'. Also, being able to somewhat cope with it doesn't make burning and regenerating 24/7 for more 8 years anything but fucking hell.
>>157585089
>Her spot was taken but I can switch her back.
Please switch her back, she got her current place by mistake
Post the newest version with all the updates from this thread so far
>>157585326
Sounds good to me yo.
>>157585355
Anyone against moving Sonoko one spot to the left?
>>157585416
Didn't we already remove a YuYuYu character last thread though?
>>157585394
I mean.. he's pretty near the SoL corner now, we could put another SoL character in his place
>>157585471
Alright, 1 second
Sauce on S100, D0?
>>157585153
i would like him if i ever could go past the first episode due of the shitty jokes
>>157585089
I am not sure if Saber or Lancer would fit in these lines, but I like this idea.
>>157585416
Also, you didn't answer me about the chinese puppetry character.
>>157585486
>Sounds good to me yo.
....which part of my post are you agreeing with?
>>157585326
god dammit anon I am going to bed again.
Please don't move Angra Mainyu and Akane, if possible bring Kohaku down a few notches, consider if Mr Satan should be there at all, consider swapping the emergency girl (S 70 D 40) with diarmuid (S 65 D 50), and keep up the good work.
>>157585326
I'm not against moving Rem up, but it wouldn't feel right to have her in the same category as guys like Casshern or Maria Ushiromiya. I think her current row fits her well.
>>157585518
EF a tale of memories/ the two / melodies
>>157583660
Why is Andou so high up for suffering and Miyoshi so low even though Miyoshi spent time under ground working until near death. Switch them
>>157585541
what do you have against puppets
>>157585396
S95 D40 is where he is on the chart
>>157583660
Is top right supposed to be anonymous as in us, or as in this kind of character doesn't exist?
>>157585634
his S should we lower by 1 or 2 blocks
>>157585616
It's not anime or manga.
>>157585583
Then why is Sayaka so high? Heck, Casshern is just sitting there in the same row as Kyouko and she just has a dead family.
This is what we changed so far
>>157585716
The chart is not perfect, but that doesn't mean we need to wreck it more.
>>157585717
oh fug I forgot to put Apollo on S100
Will do it now
What do you guys think about this?>>157585416
>>157585717
You put Lisa in the wrong spot
>>157585769
I'm not against it.
>>157585716
Because the fans of magical girls are all retards that overstate how much their characters suffered or deserve.
>>157585769
Where's Yang right now?
>>157585749
Isn't that the point of this thread? To notice that Casshern is sitting on the same row as a chick with dead parents and below a kid with daddy issues?
>>157585799
Lisa was on Kohaku's position that shouldn't be changed >>157584909
We could switch her with a character that would fit the S80 line or remove her for now. Do you think anyone in the S75/70 line would fit the S80?
>>157585717
source on S60 D10
>>157585717
switch satanichia with reigen
>>157585824
At least with Homura we know she went through a constant cycle of endless failures that slowly ground her down to nothing until she thought that becoming literally satan was the best choice for her.
>>157585849
he isn't in yet
>>157585861
We can move Cassahern then, if that's what you want
>>157585861
I was talking about Rem. You're free to move Casshern up, but moving Rem to the same row as him is what I meant by wrecking the chart.
>>157585135
I have to secound the other guy he is batshit insane. His character has been destroyed he is partially how shinji was left at the end of eva
>>157585876
satania didn't deserve anything
>>157585553
>should Rem go up 1-2 blocks
>>157585865
Actually I guess she is fine there
>>157585942
Annoying bakas deserve suffering.
>>157585911
Why would that wreck the chart? You're content with him being on the same tier as Kyouko and below Shinji and Sayaka but adamantly against him being on the same tier as Rem?
>>157585977
rem didn't even suffer that much
>>157585977
>these parts of the chart are inaccurate so it's okay to keep going in that direction
>>157585881
I was thinking more about the idiots that put someone that was crippled for a few weeks at S75 than Homura when I said that.
Suggestions still up:
Removing S45/D75 >>157584928
Rem going 1 block up >>157585051
Sonoko going 1 block left >>157585355
Removing a YuYuYu for Yang >>157585416
Switching Emergency girl with diarmuid >>157585578
Casshern going 1 block up >>157585716
Anyone against one of these changes?
>>157585942
deserved everything that happened to her and more for being a dumbass, reigen on the other hand doesn't deserve to suffer at all
>>157585716
Kyouko definitely suffered a lot.
She used her wish to make her family happy, but when they find out everyone called her a witch(lol), so she got estranged from her dead family first. Then she has to kill witches, apparently losing her humanity in the process.
When she finally finds someone that reminds her of life before the world was about killing witches, that person dies and becomes a witch, who Kyouko sacrifices herself to kill.
Factor in how upset she was when Kyubey revealed what the soul gems are, and her suffering value is definitely justified.
Sayaka tho, she probably shouldn't be on there.
>>157586081
>Rem going 1 block up
I'm against it as long as Casshern, Shichika and Goblin Slayer are on that row.
>>157586081
change casshern with ace and then with gaara
ace lived a good life, his only pain was losing a friend
>>157586081
You forgot to move Appolo to 100 suffering.
>>157586026
>Thread about fixing inaccuracies
>Don't try and fix inaccuracies or shuffle people around faggot!
>>157585996
What a well reasoned opinion backed by such facts or evidence.
>>157586114
We should change Sayaka with Gaara
Gaara didn't have any friends at all, a lot of people tried to murder him, even the person that he trusted the most.
Everybody hated him even his own family because he had a demon inside himself
>>157586167
You're not trying to fix an inaccuracy, you're trying to create another.
>>157586114
She fell into despair and became a witch, so she definitely suffered. Whether her suffering deserves a spot on the table and where it goes is another matter.
>>157586160
I already did that, only forgot to put in the update
>>157586133
Oh
do this
>>157585717
Can you move kohaku (inuyasha) to the left?
>>157586133
>Goblin Slayer
>My family got killed by goblins, now I must kill the goblins
>Somehow categorically higher than
>My family got killed by witch cultists, now I must kill the witch cultists
>Shichika
How does he even suffer? He's an autistic sword.
>>157586208
>>157586167
>>157586081
If I might:
This chart is based on two factors, suffering and douchbaggary. The former is an objective value, which can be quantified if need be, whereas the later is more subjective, in that every anon may feel differently about how much is deserved.
Because of this, we should focus on fixing the sufferings first, because then the deserved debates would be founded on something that we made concrete, that being a characters suffering. That's my two cents, at any rate.
>>157586332
Sayaka should be beneath Kyoko though.
>>157585717
Switch Kohaku with Kariya.
>>157586372
let's fix this confussion with rem/casshern/gaara first pls
>>157586081
I'm against Kohaku being moved.
Could we add Mariko from Oniisama-e?
>>157583660
Who's the bitch on the top left and how did she deserve it less then a guy that was picked at random by some asshole?
>>157586428
Why? She didn't suffer more than Sakura (There were no worms raping her).
Who's on S70 D55?
>>157586415
Well part of that actually stems from Sayaka being really high. I think she's an outlier on her row. Her home life isn't great, but not bad, she's a fairly normal girl. She likes a boy, that boy chooses another girl and she offers herself to fix him thinking she'd be okay with just supporting him like that, but she's really not and that clashes with some of her ideals and she flips out and turns into a monster. Ultimately she has the worst week of her life an it costs her her life, but compared to other people on the chart who suffer longer or even more its not that bad. I'd say Kyouko suffered worse just from duration and having people actually die because of her.
>>157586390
>>157586428
well that was fast
>>157586428
>>157586513
Not to mention Kohaku wasn't directly betrayed by her family and had Akiha on her side
>>157586573
This. If Sayaka is to stay, she should be moved down below Kyouko.
>>157585717
how in hell did Lisa S:80 D:80 suffer more than Ange S:65 D:80?
>>157586605
Akiha did use her to control her demon blood by drinking her blood. Did Kohako agree to that? Is that just more rape to her?
>>157586573
Seconding this.
>>157586334
Anyone against this?
>>157586344
You're right, but I feel that we are focusing on the suffering now, haven't seen many anons discussing about deserving yet
>>157586332
Anyone against this?
>>157586081
....anyone?
>>157586573
>>157586606
Thirding this, sayaka suffered the least of the madoka girls, if she has to stay it should be on a much lower square
>>157586513
She's already below Sakura you idiot.
>>157586638
She loved Akiha though, as much as a mind-broken doll could.
>>157586680
Madoka suffered less, at least before she went full Goddess.
>>157586573
We could do this >>157586332 and then swap Sayaka and Kyouko, what do you think?
>>157586631
We could move Lisa to S70, she was moved to S80 because Kohaku took her place
>>157586718
Did Sakaya deserve to suffer more than Kyouko though?
>>157586645
I'd put Sayaka where Rem is
Ace where Casshern is
Gaara where Sayaka is
Rem where Gaara is
Casshern where Ace is
And the swap seems fine
>>157583660
W-why is Megumin so high? D-Did something happen in the latest volume?
>>157586687
She's a tier above, so that implies Kohaku suffered more. Which is wrong. Sakura went through a bit more shit than Kohaku did. There's a reason those two are mirrors of one another.
>>157586717
Wrong, madoka had to watch three friends die while a psychopath prevents her from helping them. She also had to deal with the bombs Kyubey kept dropping on her.
Note: I do not want madoka on the chart. I repeat, do not add madoka. I'm merely defending my statement.
>>157586717
Madoka isn't on the chart, placing her would probably be a nightmare.
>>157586760
Rem is perfect where she is I'm against moving her.
>>157586718
>We could move Lisa to S70, she was moved to S80 because Kohaku took her place
Please do and also I agree with this anon >>157585110
Where is devilman?
>>157586754
I don't really want to quibble on deserving, but Sayaka caused basically all her own problems and ignored help and all the warnings she got, so in terms of the particular suffering she felt it actually was mostly all her fault. Now I'm not sure if this is 'they deserved it because they were responsible or they deserved it because they're a cosmic asshole'
>>157586818
I'm against it too
>>157586783
Her spinoff shows that she had quite the rough childhood.
>>157586818
In what way? She's suffered far worse than a lot of the people above her.
>>157586850
On the other hand, Kyoko was a borderline sadist who attacked Sayaka out of her own ego and encouraged her to cripple her Kyosuke in order to force him to rely on her.
>>157586081
>>157586826
Alright I'm applying these changes, except the Casshern/Rem one
>>157586792
Get your eyes checked you fucking idiot she's clearly a tier below Sakura here.
>>157585717
>>157586926
Well that's where the question of what 'deserve' means. You shouldn't have two definitions because then the scale isn't actually measuring the same thing.
>>157586926
>encouraged her to cripple her Kyosuke in order to force him to rely on her
That was merely mockery on hidden egoism of Sayaka's love.
>>157586114
>>157586227
Sayaka also dies in every timeline according to Homura.
>>157586926
This is just a testament to Kyouko's suffering, the life she's lived forced her to think this way. It's not really deserved when all you could think of is that she will defend her territory and some offhand comments.
If anything, you could argue that her wish put her in position to suffer the most, therefore making her the cause, and making the suffering more deserved. I disagree with that though, Kyouko is fine where she is assuming sayaka gets put below her.
>>157583660
Yasuri Shichika deserved his suffering far more. Spoiler: He acts on behalf of Togame, practically the villain of the series and he kills both "good" characters and people just doing their job or standing around, to steal their shit, just to wreck it in the end.
>>157585873
Are you serious? Did you not have a tv or Cartoon Network fifteen years ago?
>>157587124
This.
>>157587093
Yeah, but we're not really counting people that get time looped that don't remember it.
Where is Leon? He suffered so much at the hands of Mendoza.
Lara's death was incredible suffering for his and all he wanted was to kill the Horrors
why is S:85 D:100 in there?
Alright guys I need to move Lisa from S80/D80 to S70/D80, is there anyone in the S75 line that could go to S80 and anyone on S70 that could go to S75?
Regarding Saya no Uta, Funimori (55) should definitely be higher up than Kouji (70).
>>157587223
In the LN Alderp is doomed to spend eternity in hell suffering since he made several pacts with a demon
>>157587223
Mansions are expensive man
>>157586965
>you fucking idiot
>>157587236
Kariya and Sakura should suffice.
>>157587276
>In the LN
I can feel the indexfags coming with their manga to put Touma on S100
>>157587187
do we even have a spot for him? all the spots available are S80+
>>157587276
God damnit no.
Every character that suffers more in a LN has been very difficult to place here because their fans constantly want them higher. This is the anime and manga board, this chart should be anime and manga based only.
>>157583660
why is okabe only S90? he suffered more than that
>>157587432
>this shit again
>>157587432
My PTSD is coming back
>>157587398
As if my statement needed proof, see >>157587432
Fuck okabe, fuck LN's and fuck you
>>157587096
The problem with the "victim of circumstances" reasoning is that it can push a lot of characters very to the left simply by justifying that any reprehensible actions are attitudes are simply products of their suffering.
>>157587432
Fuck off, we already had enough of your bullshit.
>>157587480
I'm one of the original people who bothered you about Okabe's position and I think it's mostly fine. but lets see where this guy can take us
>>157587432
Damnit, use your eyes man. Look at the characters that are above him.
>>157587542
>but lets see where this guy can take us
I really like Chartanon so let's not. Just tell him to fuck off till he go away.
Why the hell is Watashi from Humanity has Declined on a 5, on the deserved scale. I mean she is a pretty good, albeit lazy and jaded person, but she should not be placed on the same tier as Yotsuba and higher than saints like Vash or Erin. I would place her at 35
>>157587633
It is only fair that the one who measures suffering suffers.
>>157587486
That's true, which is why I said her position is fine as is. Among the madoka characters present, Kyouko is the only one who's placement I agree with.
Sayaka is too fucking high and not far enough right
Homura is too fucking high and not far enough right
Kyubey was such a hassle we deleted him last thread, I suggest the same for sayaka now if we can't come to a better decision.
>Griffith 100% deserved it
why? he did nothing wrong
I don't see Kaneki on the chart, am I just blind? Dude just wanted a gf to discuss books with and look what happened to him
>>157587147
switch tanya/salaryman with kiriha
Since X tried him to suffer by being reborn as an orphan, but he just didn't care and kept going forward, if nothing, salaryman/tanya is just mad and is just busy making europe great.
if that counts as suffering, he's just taking it so fucking well
>>157587783
>am I just blind?
Yes.
>>157587783
S:80 D:30
>>157587809
whoops, that was for >>157585717 OP
>>157587775
>deceived an entire country
>manipulated a little girl to get power
>flooded the world with monsters
>collects people to protect them from said monsters
>recruits his own monster bros
>makes everyone worship him
I get it, you don't think he was wrong at eclipse. He was a douchebag and a tyrant literally everywhere else tho.
>>157587832
>>157587834
Welp, I'll go to the retarded corner. Carry on.
>>157587688
>Kyubey was such a hassle we deleted him last thread
Was it necessary to delete him though? Why not just move him to a lower position to the left?
>>157586934
Done
Did you guys decide what should happen with Rem/Casshern/Sayaka?
>>157587124
Where would you put him in the D scale?
>>157587845
Thanks for making me feel noticed though.
>>157587688
Homura has had nothing but suffering for her entire life, and fits squarely into "living hell" tier. Her actions ultimately reduced the suffering of all her friends and ended Kyubey's threat. She fits in the "did morally questionable actions but had good intentions/result" tier.
>>157585717
Switch Kaneki and Punpun
>Misogi Kumagawa
As close to the corners as possible. Any corner works.
>>157587942
We have three Madoka characters already. four might have been too much. Also those who defended Coobee were just as obnoxious as those bashing it.
>>157587942
Because we couldn't fucking agree in a place to put him in? Kyubey is a fucking headache because utilitarian think he deserves less than D50 and the people that care about the megucas think that he deserves >90. We were never going to find a spot where both sides could agree on.
>>157587942
I think he'd be hard to place. Whatever Homura did to him is really left up to the imagination, because he normally wouldn't even have the concept of suffering in the first place.
>>157587942
It was necessary because the madokafags wouldn't let us move him. Believe me, I wanted to put Kyubey on the chart, he's an iconic ch/a/racter, but all of my arguments(and those of another 30 anons) went unheard because the faggots wouldn't let us peacefully move him to low S low D, so he had to be removed for the greater good of the chart.
>>157587942
Some anons wanted him on high S/high D
Others wanted him on high S/low D
A third group wanted low S/low D (Since he had a "fast" death)
We couldn't find an agreement for 4-5 threads
>>157587943
I would put him at an 85 on the D scale
>>157588029
When the chart is finished and it's time to make adjustments, maybe then he can make a return.
>>157588066
Homura was worse though.
>>157587943
Please Sunabozu (S45D90) to the empty spot in the left, he is an asshole, but he shouldn't be in that line.
Put Ochiai (pick related) from Sidonia in his place.
I don't know all the characters in the chart. Why aren't their names on there?
>>157588116
>I'm a newfag. Why aren't you spoonfeeding me?
Fuck off back to /v/.
>>157588086
>Homura was worse though.
Kohaku will be the next Homura of the chart, mark my words
>>157588148
I don't think Kohaku is anywhere near as ambiguous as Homura is on the scale though.
>>157588116
>just double the size of the chart with names and shows because I'm a newfag that can't reverse image search
Literally suck seven cocks, all at once
Suggestions so far:
Switch Tanya with Kiriha >>157587809
Sunabozu one to the left >>157588106
Anyone against them?
>>157587982
Did Kaneki really suffer 85 though?>>157588081
From 15D to 85D is a big jump, are you sure about it? 80D+ is almost all murderers
>>157588116
Just point their position and ask man
>>157587943
>157587943
Thanks for putting Inferno Cop in there!
It makes me very happy.
>>157588287
Kaneki shouldn't be in S85, Jason is in that line and he absolutely suffered more than Kaneki.
>>157588086
If characters are going to be added once the chart is finished, then it seems like it'd be better to do that first before making it more accurate. There's a few iconic characters that aren't in right now and it'd be a pain to have adjustments be made only for a character to be replaced and mess the whole thing up.
we need 4 characters that suffered
Urahara would be perfect
>>157588287
>Did Kaneki really suffer 85 though?
I'm an idiot. I meant:
Did he really deserve that much?
>>157588393
How the fuck did urahara suffer
He didn't even get vizarded, only lost his job but gained a catgirl waifu.
>>157588389
>There's a few iconic characters that aren't in right now
Like who? I see there's no-one from Sailor Moon, but that's about it.
>>157588287
>Did Kaneki really suffer 85 though?
Kaneki literally ate his best friend, his mother the only light of love in his childhood beat him regulary, he got tortured by Yamori, skullfucked by Arima and brainwashed on top of more horrific things. I'd say that's more than what Punpun went trough which was mostly his fault.
>>157588287
Is there anyway the Amazing Sufferingman can make it into the chart?
I'm feeling something like:
S: 60
D: 20
>>157588472
>like who
Kamina
Every k-on girl
Multiple jojo's
Ryoko
Many more
>>157588427
>ChartAnon !z5iW57HkOM 05/23/17(Tue)20:20:45 No.157588427 â–¶
>>>157588287 (You)
>>Did Kaneki really suffer 85 though?
>I'm an idiot. I meant:
>Did he really deserve that much?
wait no, I was right in the first post
God dammit I need to sleep
>>157588530
Literally no K-On girl suffered above a 5, and there are several JoJo characters on the chart. Fucking moron.
>>157587943
Remove S:25, D:45. Initial D doesn't need 2 characters in the chart. There's barely any suffering in that show.
I think Lord Genome, with 90, is a bit to high on the suffering scale. He was forced to live as the king of the earth, surrounded by loyal henchmen and hot concubines. Yes, he was forced to betray his men and give up on his dream, but he died happy and loved, after centuries of debauchery. I would put him at 65
>>157588530
>Every k-on girl
We really tried to add Yui but:
>>157336299
>>157337830
>>157338544
>>157339477
>>157339496
>Multiple jojo's
There are 5-6 JoJo's in
>>157588560
Nice strawman, I was asked for icons that aren't on the chart, not if I believe they should be.
>>157583660
Anon's 100 100
But where is Mootykins?
>>157587688
You can argue moving Homura left or right but saying she's too high on the chart is bullshit.
>>157588637
Who?
>>157588530
>Multiple jojo's
The real issue here is Pucci suffering more than Johnny somehow.
>>157588586
Isn't it enough for S90 though? >>157557374
Since nobody was against:
Suggestions so far:
Switch Tanya with Kiriha >>157587809
Sunabozu one to the left >>157588106
I'm doing it
>>157588376
>>157588475
Shouldn't Jason go up then?
>>157588799
Yeah, there shouldn't be any problem with Jason moving. Guy had a horrible life.
Origami had her parents killed and hold her rage all her life. Her suffering is too low and her D too high I'd say she fit S30/D60
Kurumi's deserving is too low, she literally killed 10.000 people, S15/D85
>>157588799
>>157588830
>>157588832
Anyone against this?
Will post new chart soon
>>157588799
Thanks chartanon, I was looking for my lordgenome defense but you found it first
>>157588799
If we're doing this by how well they take their suffering, Inferno Cop should be all the way to the bottom, so I don't think Tanya should be swapped.
>>157588472
Might of missed them, but are Joe, Kino, Simon, Horo, Lupin, Renge, Pico, or any Cromartie character on there?
>>157588799
Kaneki 85 and Jason 90 I'd say
>>157588992
Hm, true. Won't move Tanya for now.
>>157588832
I second this, move Origami from S20/D85 to S30/D60 And move Kurumi from S15/D75 to S15/D85
>>157589048
well, then how about moving kiriha up?being dead sure is something
>>157588799
Yeah, I can see Lord Genome at 90 now, although I would still put him a bit lower, but whatever
>>157585228
This chart is about suffering, not physical agony, although that often plays into mental suffering.
>>157589134
We could switch her with Osamu, aren't all his fights fake? I don't think he has suffered
It's been a long time since I watched GTO, but I can't remember Onizuka suffering all that much, if at all
>>157589173
>I would still put him a bit lower
same, but it's so hard to find someone that deserved a S90-100 suffering. He fills a good spot
Did Yabuki Joe make it on yet?
>>157589250
We've been going off a "half-mental/half-physical" metric for measuring suffering, where an immensity of one or the other could push a character up or down with no regard for the other.
>>157589252
>aren't all his fights fake?
Most of them, but there was an invasion that he was stabbed all over his body and almost died, that said I don't have a problem with he moving down.
>>157588799
I might be blind but i dont see simon anywhere. I feel like his suffering is pretty up there considering all he went through
>>157589257
He gets shot in the head and blackmailed among other things, it is just that it is fun to the viewer
>>157589324
All Simon went through was watching his friends sacrifice themselves. Some characters as low as S50 watched their friends die purposeless deaths along with being tortured themselves. Simon had a better life than most of the S30 line, I'd say.
>>157587868
>responding to bait
>>157589422
>he still thinks the Griffith apologists are bait
I'm not sure what's worse, being baited or baiting yourself into being baited
>>157587943
>not even one Akatsuki no Yona character
I know it's a shoujo and all but some of the main characters have suffered far more than most of this chart
>>157588671
Stop
I see Spike on the chart, but where would we put Jet or Faye? Those two had pretty hard lives
>>157588832
>>157589108
Origami and Kurumi moved
>>157589134
>>157589318
Osamu is now with Yamcha/Sakura that suffered in fights too, seems fair.
>>157588830
>>157588376
Done
>>157589477
Would they fit a open slot?
Latest chart
>>157589566
There's no space anymore. We're dead out of it.
>>157589574
4 spaces left
we can do it guys
>>157588393
Urahara would be like S5, and that's only if we're generous and assume he was really hurt when they kicked him out of Soul Society, which really doesn't seem to be the case and he's even on good terms with them the few times we see him interact with shinigami.
Really he's a S0 but all of those slots are filled and he's not a good enough representation of that tier to warrant replacing someone else in it.
>>157589574
QB, directly above Lordgenome.
He's the same kind of "for the greater good" villain, and being forced to feel other's suffering is like being mindraped by eldritch terrors, but instead of knowledge that they're injecting into your mind, it's a type of suffering that you were literally incapable of feeling until that exact moment. And also they're dumping millions of virtual tons of it into you all at once. It's like what they did to Squealer, only mental instead of physical.
>>157589738
You know this will start yet another debate of the functionalists vs the emotionalists.
>>157589574
Why did szaelaporo get bumped to S100? Sure, his death was fucking brutal, but that's the extent of his suffering. I thought 95 was too high but now I have to say something
>>157589738
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH FUCK OFF
>Bernkastel
>Deserved it 100%
For what purpose
>>157589738
Fuck off
>>157589780
I don't usually visit these threads, they're always when I'm in bed or working so I've never browsed them closely.
>>157589795
He went through intense agony for hundreds if not thousands of years and then died.
>>157589795
>>157584852
Suffering for centuries is still more suffering than what Guts went through
>>157589830
I'll catch you up
Every thread has featured an argument over kyubey, culminating in his removal last time.
>>157589841
Since the first thread we had a long discussion about Kyubey's position. We couldn't come to a conclusion after 4-5 threads so we did a poll and removed him from the chart
>>157589830
Kyubey is a millstone that no-one can ever agree on. Personally I think that means he needs to be on there, but that can be saved for when or if I take over again.
>>157589880
I'm gonna guess this was meant for this guy
>>157589830
>>157589830
There was so much argument over where QB should be that everyone agreed that removing it from the chart all together was the best thing to do.
>>157589866
Probably for the best really. There are too many ways to interpret where he's supposed to go, on both axes for that matter.
>>157589904
no I wanted you to learn more about Kyubey's position in the chartyes, sorry
>>157589895
>>157589880
>>157589866
Chartanon should just make an executive decision, place him, and ban all further discussion. He's a pretty famous character to not be on a suffering chart.
>>157588537
I'm pretty sure Kaneki has suffered more than Jason, but the guy who said Jason suffered more might be able to enlighten me.
And I'm not familiar enough with PunPun to weigh in on whether Kaneki should switch with him. As far as I know Jason was only tortured when he was in ghoul prison, whereas Kaneki's torture session, despite being a large and important event for him, is just one in a handful of awful things that keep piling up on him.
>>157589477
there's no space to fit them because they all didn't deserved everything that happened to them
>>157589574
The girl from humanity has declined deserves suffering more than Chaika.
Chaika is on a quest she was designed for and lacks memories
The heroine from humanity has declined uses threats manipulation and lies in order to not get caught in ep.1 with the raw chicken escaping
Why is yuki nagato at D:35, S:80?
She should at least be D20 or below
>>157589804
Because she's the opposite of Rika
>>157589935
I agree. And As an ex-chartanon from some time ago who did that same thing several times in the second thread, I know he has the authority to do it.
>>157589935
That's when it stops being an /a/ chart and starts being just some faggot's opinion chart.
>Satako isn't on the list
She really should be somewhere around S40 and D80
>>157589841
>>157589842
Except it wasn't for centuries, he only thought it was. Most of that mental time was just him watching the sword come closer.
Guts lived an entire life of suffering, as decided by forces above him. He was blamed for his foster mothers death, raped, accidentally killed his foster father, and that's just what he went through as a child. 100% of Guts life has been suffering, szaelaporo only suffered when he died.
Btw, centuries are literally nothing to an espada.
>>157588617
Why would you argue that the iconic characters should be on the chart if you don't believe they belong on it? Dumbass.
>>157589935
Why? There will be a lot of bitching in on way or another, because there's no way to make the functionalists agree with the emotionalists over where QB should be.
>>157589994
t. Shion
How about we remove the literally who from 50S 20D and place Amuro somewhere?
>>157589997
Even if it was only mental time, he still suffered for centuries. this chart is based on mental suffering anyway.
can we stop removing characters?
this thing will never end if we keep doing it
>>157589981
Oh yeah, that makes sense.
>>157589574
Why is Father/Homunculus's suffering so high?
>>157590052
If by somewhere you meant 'there' then I agree completely. Amuro is way too iconic to no be in the chart.
>>157589994
Fuck off, we dont need another higurashi character on the chart.
>>157589410
dont forget kamina's death, his waifu dying on their wedding day and wandering the earth alone. But i also understand your point too. I just think he should be on there in general
>>157590114
didn't he spend centuries in a bottle trying to be free?
>>157589804
Tsubasa among other things
>>157590122
We don't have enough.
How is Punpun 80? He's fucked in the head and went through some shit but there's no way he's that high. He should be around 50-60
Am I blind, or is /ourguy/ Strongest Man Kurosawa not on the list?
>>157590182
switch punpun with Sayaka!
>>157590118
I think we should remove the literally who, move every character before Kamille to the left and place Amuro in 50S 45D. He suffered about as much as Kamille, but arguably deserved it less because he didn't get involved in the war of his own volition.
>>157590222
Sayaka suffered more than Punpun
>>157590172
Shut up.
>>157589574
Could you remove Bernkastel of the chart? She and Rika are pretty much the same character. It's a waste of space
>>157590206
This, but also delete Sayaka from the chart.
>>157590242
Sayaka didn't suffer S80, dumbass
>>157590062
I have a suggestion.
Swap szaelaporo with Barragan, a fellow espada who had his entire kingdom stolen from him and forced to serve the asshole that did it. He also fits the corresponding D
>>157589738
no matter how much Kyubey suffers, he can just resurrect himself also.
>>157583660
Solving a 2-dimensional bubblesort ranks participants in this exercise at S:100.
The person who thought this was a good idea sits at D:100.
>>157590313
That just adds to the suffering, though, not even death can save you from Homura
Can someone list all the names of everyone on S:100 for me?
>>157590259
This is like the sixth complaint about Bernkastel.
What do you guys think?
I'd rather stop removing characters, this chart will never end, but you guys decide.
>>157590182
Who would you change Punpun with? (Sayaka is not an option)
>>157590303
Losing an empire is worth a S100? I don't think so man
Suffering 90
Deserved 40
My suggestion.
Place Amuro where Hopeman was.
>>157590405
Anyone who proposes removal should have a replacement ready, or this shit will never get done.
>>157590416
Amuro pic.
>>157590395
Anonymous is the only one who deserve their place.
>>157590405
You literally put her there because this exact dumb argument >>157589981
I said remove her and make way for someone better.
>>157590261
Removing Sayaka is a dumb idea since suffering was one of the main focuses of her character's story arc.
Are there really no suggestions for the 4 ultra-suffering slots left?
>>157590259
>She and Rika are pretty much the same character.
Why are you talking about things you don't know about?
They're not the same character in any way.
>>157590405
Neither do I, but that's why I was arguing that szaelaporo shouldn't be S100, especially not when there's open spots right below him. Of all the bleach characters why did it have to be him? Ulq and Starrk both suffered their entire existences but don't merit a spot, so why does this one douchbag that got stabbed for a long time deserve a spot?
>>157589574
remove that irrelevant girl from spice & wolf (15,15) and put poplar there instead
>>157590441
Good idea, you're promoted
>>157590416
Anyone against this?
I'm sorry >>157468752
>>157590502
>why are you talking about things you don't know about?
>implying
>>157590182
>Dysfunctional family
>Father abuses mother and then disappears
>Mother is a slut that doesn't care for him and later dies from cancer
>Raped by his uncle's girlfriend
>Leaves the girl he loves when she needed him and regrets this so much that wants to be killed by her
>Is friends with said girl's boyfriend and steals her away causing him suffering
>Later reunites with this girl and has sex with her describing it as sinking lower than hell
>"Kills" girl's mother and runs away with her
>Falls even deeper as a human being
>They try to harm each other and results in missing teeth and his eye stabbed with a fork
>Girl kills herself and wishes for him to never forget her
>Tries to kill himself
>Gets saved and has to help raise another's man child
>Starts to forget girl even though he doesn't want to
>Reunites with old friend and cries
Even the author in an interview said that he wanted to make him have the worst ending possible and a life full of suffering where he only wants to die but is forced to live
>>157590557
Bernkastel and Rika isn't the same character.
Why are you talking about things you don't know anything about?
>>157590527
>unnamed college student
I feel bad for the guy who requested him, but I believe that there's no reason to keep an unnamed character.
>>157590568
>why are you talking about things you don't know anything about?
>implying
>>157590516
You. I like you. The fun part of the chart is in the bottom left.
>>157590516
Seconding this desu
>>157590557
They're not the same, though.
Bernkastel is a cat, Rika is a human.
>>157590502
>>157590477
Well, we got a counter argument
>>157590504
...you can always suggest to put a new character anon, if you want Ulq/Stark in and think they deserve the spot, go for it.
I won't deny your entry, but some other anons might do
Did Ulq/Stark really suffer a S100 though?
>>157590516
..anyone against?
This will be the last time I remove a character before the chart is completedyou guys are even fighting for the slice of life corner?
>>157590557
>>157590597
This fag's just shitposting, ignore him.
>>157590649
Okay. You got me there.
>>157590405
They're separate characters though. Besides, the whole Rika/Bern being on opposite ends of the chart is nice.
>>157590655
I just said that they don't merit a spot, not a single character in bleach suffered a 100
>>157590597
Rika =/= Bernkastel
Bernkastel was born out of Rika's suffering, she isn't just Rika with a dress.
>>157590482
Maybe Hades from Saint Seiya? Guy was eaten by his father, saved by Zeus only to be throw out of Olympus for no good reason. He then spent a few thousands of years fighting his niece for control of the planet only to lose every time and have his souls for centuries until the next war until he died for good.
>>157590395
I know Angra, Guts, Ichise, Devilman, Squealer, Katsura, that guy from fairy tail, that girl from Utena, and Diavolo but that's it.
>>157590713
Sounds like anime Kratos
>>157590559
i havent read the series but thanks for the summary, you just literally saved me from a shitty forced drama
>>157590699
They were the same person once, therefore they keep being the same person even if they were separated.
>>157590713
>souls for centuries
soul sealed for centuries*
>>157590655
I think you should also remove one last character for Yabuki Joe. This chart is lacking in iconic characters.
He should be somewhere between 70S and 80S.
>>157590655
>you guys are even fighting for the slice of life corner?
Without the slice of life corner, the rest of the chart is meaningless.You need the slice of life corner to establish scale, otherwise you end up with the middle of the scale at suffering 0 just because everything else on the list is "above" it.
>>157590713
Sounds good, how would you rank his deserving?
>>157590395
>>157590723
Killy, The Intention of the Abyss, I think one of them is Etheldreda, Akabara, Manji and Mendoza, the guy from FT is Zeref
>>157590755
>were the same person once
That's now how it works. You can't exist before you're bornexcept Jesus but that's another story.
>>157589574
Do this please, Cúchulainn was a half god who lived his entire life as a dog. Had to kill his son etc. In his afterlife got summoned for the grail war and his master got killed. He ends betrayed by everyone.
>>157590773
What D?
Did you guys decide on the Bern/Rika thing?
>>157590804
Anyone against?
>>157590754
Where would Aku, the shape-shifting master of darkness, the master of masters, the shogun of sorrow, be placed?
>>157590395
ef girl
Angra Mainyu
Guts
Ichise
idk
Fudo Akira
Fire punch guy
Blame guy
Squealer
Shoyo
Don't know the next three
Zeref
Forgot this guy's name
Anthy
Don't know
Diavolo
Then some faggot and anonymous
>>157590801
If a maniac has two separate personalities, would you consider them two different persons or just one. This is the same, you're just dumb, like Jesus.
>>157590835
35? Joe barely did anything wrong, but his fists did kill Rikiishi.
>>157590655
I'll have you know that the slice of life corner is the mos important corner. So many characters that can fit, but so little spots.I got four characters placed into the slice of life corner.
>>157590840
where goku is, but i just have seen S1, i've heard some things in recent seasons so he would go up
>captcha: darremur zone
>>157587397
I'm not sure but I feel like 80 would be pretty suitable for him. Losing everything, finding hope and a will to live, losing that too, then losing your father, the only person you had left...Lara's death just got me too shook,
have you seen a purer, more innocent smile before?
>>157590395
The amount of people in these threads that never heard of Yuuko before is depressing me.
>>157590881
Oh man, S70/D35 is literally Sayaka's spot
>>157590835
don't move lubbock
>>157590840
/co/ did their own chart already, but it was before Samurai Jack S2.
Which reminds me, we should put the date of completion on this chart once we finish it, because it can get outdated pretty quickly.
Where is Pico?
>>157590835
Fine by me.
Just remove her.
>>157590905
She's from ef, right? I plan to watch that soon so.
>>157590959
Negative suffering. Deserves 100 for being super gay.
>>157590784
>Sounds good, how would you rank his deserving?
He is directly responsible for the deaths of millions of humans, and if he had his way there would be almost no human left in the planet.
>>157590941
How about Lubbock with the girl to his left and then we make the change?
>>157590902
but..but.. we don't have slots for S80
>>157590950
>/co/ did their own chart already, but it was before Samurai Jack S2.
exactly
>>157591000
Need a number, pham
>>157591029
>Dr. Facilier at S100
why
What S75/D35 did for that spot?
We could remove him and put Yabuki Joe
>>157591029
Who is the S100D100 guy?
>>157590973
Fuck off lad, you've already been BTFO about Bernkastel.
>>157591093
>being this new
>>157591070
Presumably, he's in hell being tortured by demons forever.
>>157591093
Chris-chan.
>>157591122
>Chris-chan.
Who?
>>157590804
>3 S95 spots left open
Shit, that's tough
>>157591029
are there ones for /v/, /tv/, /mu/ and maybe /lit/?
>>157591117
I don't browse /co/.
>>157591185
There was one started on /his/
>>157591185
/v/ tried but I think they dropped theirs.
>>157591185
/his/
>>157591185
I only know that /his/ tried one and didn't seem like they'd be able to finish it.
>>157589574
Why the hell is Diarmuid that high?
All he did was throw a hissy fit after being ordered to kill himself.
>>157591224
Why is Hitler at D:90? He should be at D:5 with Jesus.
>>157591155
S 95 D 95
He's free unlike us now.
>>157591185
/v/ might get off their asses and make one, don't hope for much though.
Frankly, I'm surprised we managed to get this doneknock on wood
>>157591224
>Jesus S100D0
How typical. I expected more from /his/
>>157591115
Uh-huh.
>>157591224
Surprised to see Marx and Lenin that far right on the X-axis, I thought /his/ was /leftypol/.
>>157591224
>>157591227
of course, you'd need to be a fucking historian to fill and sort that chart
also, adding names would be nice
>>157591259
Arguments like that are most likely why they never finished it. It's like if, for the /a/ chart, every character generated as much of an argument as Kyuubey did.
I wouldn't care enough to finish the chart if that were the case either.
>>157591224
I like /his/ color, we should change our to green.
Blue doesn't fit /a/
>>157591207
apparently you haven't browsed 4chan either.
>>157591264
No, we already have anonymous, we don't need 2 meme meta choices
>>157591286
Get out you blasphemy-spouting pagan harlot.
>>157590804
You could probably just have him swap places with Diarmuid.
>>157591318
Kyuubey automatically goes in the last open spot on the chart
>>157591323
Blue is perfect, green doesn't fit /a/
>>157591323
>blue doesn't fit /a/
>mfw blue board
>>157591323
Blue is the colour of MAL, so it's definitely /a/'s colour :^)
>>157591348
Just tell me already or shut up and don't say nothing, you idiot.
>>157591224
>the dying japanese man on s100
holy shit, how did he deserve something?
swap jesus with that man
>>157583660
>literal former assassins deserving it less than some scummy neet, cringey girl, bitchy girls and >what was that?
>>157591312
No, don't you see, Marx and Lenin were advocating FALSE communism, no wonder they failed. Real communism would be much more successful and peaceful.
>>157583660
did you fuckers move homura's deserve up again
Is anyone against removing Ace to put Yabuki Joe in his place?
We have Chopper and Brook from OP already and all that happened to Ace was that he lost his friend
>>157591406
He was on the losing side. Duh.
>>157591388
I'd literally be fine with this.
I still think he deserves to be on the chart regardless of placement, and people will bitch no matter what after the chart is finalized.
>>157591401
>it's chris-chan if you need anymore info, you should fuck off this site
>>157591421
Fuck off, retard.
>>157591363
Diarmuid suffered way more than Cúchulainn who, at least, was a half god.
>>157591423
Please, fuck you.
>>157591423
AAAAAAAAA GO AWAY
PLEASE NO
IT WAS ONLY 2 BLOCKS PLEASE DON'T START ANOTHER DISCUSSION
>>157591423
how many times do I have to explain this to you idiots
>>157591423
Yes, and she is still too left.
Literally, fuck off
>>157591408
Kodaka deserves worse than Umaru, but she's too memey to hand over her spot.
>>157591432
Sounds good to me. Sounds like putting him on the chart was a (understandable) mistake based on his death being one of the saddest scenes in the shows and causing suffering to other characters who mourn him.
But really he himself didn't suffer much. Cut him out!
>>157591423
STOP ARGUING ABOUT MEGUCA POSITIONING REEEEEEEEEEE IT WASN'T EVEN A BIG CHANGE REEEEEEEEE
>>157591478
JUST STOP
>>157591406
Start shit, get hit.
>>157591432
Speaking of One Piece, why isn't Robin on there? Her whole backstory was filled with suffering.
>>157591423
You should be glad she wasn't moved all the way to D85 like she should.
>>157591423
I'm about ready to suggest we take off every madoka character and laugh at anyone who bitches afterwards
>>157591438
Says the idiot who doesn't even know how to use the green properly Thanks for nothing.
put Homura back where she was. She currently deserves her suffering as much as someone who slaughtered masses of innocent people. For reasons why this is dumb as hell, please see the thread where I explain this simple shit for dozens of posts.
>>157591406
What is he, a nuke victim?
I would have assumed he was a Vietnamese victim of agent orange, but I'm not sure if "japanese" was a meme or serious.
>>157589997
What do you guys think?
Apollo back to S95?
>>157591515
I guess nobody remembered her, the high S/low D is pretty filled now though
>>157591539
Madokucks definitely deserve it with the way they're acting.
>>157591516
>You should be glad she wasn't moved all the way to D85 like she should.
you're fucking braindead, move her back to where she was OP.
>>157591455
I only remember him having a fit about honor after being ordered to kill himself.
Is there anything else I'm forgetting? I recall him leaving Fionn when he was gonna die to a boar in the myth, but that's only second hand info.
>>157591557
Shut the fuck up.
>>157591539
Just lock their positions and tell anyone who wants to edit them to fuck off, that will make the shitposters infinitely more mad than just deleting them
>>157591568
Yes, get him the fuck off S100
>>157591557
Mods need to add "arguing about the philisophical morality of Madoka characters" to the Rules list so people trying to start this shit again can just be banned.
>>157591484
"literally" kill yourself retard. Anyone who thinks Homura deserves her suffering is too stupid to understand the ending of Rebellion and needs to stop posting.
>>157591653
STOP
>>157591485
Never said he didn't, just that when someone who formerly killed people in the dozens (who left that life) somehow deserves it less than socially retarded people or at worst people that did extortion/robbery/were a bitch is utterly retarded.
>>157591606
slit your wrists champ.
>>157591653
Fuck off.
LET'S REMOVE EVERY MADOKA CHARACTER!
>>157591653
Just fuck off.
OP please free us from this bullshit and delete every Madoka character from the chart.
>>157591599
Just the way, they are heroic spirits justify their suffer. They are literally fighting for something they can't win. They are born to die, and resurrected to die again.
>>157591653
>muh rebellion
You must be so glad that your waifu got a movie, now you could try to subvert anyone that rightly brings up how horrible of a character Homura is.
She was delusionally obsessed with madoka, to the point of going through several time lines to prevent an unavoidable event. Every single fucking last drop of her suffering was deserved, in fact, she didn't get enough of it.
>>157591701
hang yourself in your parents' living room.
>>157591708
Just leave them all where they are now. It was going just fine like that.
>>157591705
>>157591708
This desu
>>157591708
http://www.strawpoll.me/13030245
MOVE SAYAKA TO S30 SHE DIDNT SUFFER SHIT
>>157591736
>You must be so glad that your waifu got a movie, now you could try to subvert anyone that rightly brings up how horrible of a character Homura is.
The fact that I didn't say shit about the quality of the movie or my feelings about homu as a character but you immediately went there to defend her position says everything that needs to be said about the "arguments" for her high deserve. Put her back where she was OP.
>>157591539
>>157591705
>>157591708
Throwing my hat in with these guys, let's get all three of them out of here because it only causes problems
>>157591787
Just leave them where they are and ignore anyone trying to change them.
>>157591748
It was if you're too fucking stupid to understand a movie about magical prepubescent girls I guess.
Just wondering, would this rotation be an alright change?
>>157591787
Add option to poll: freeze locations. I like where they are and I feel like someone as iconic as Homura at least needs to be on there, but I also want the waifufags to be put in their place.
>>157591829
nah, fuck you and everyone else ITT. I spent an entire fucking thread explaining to you idiots why Homu deserves the position she does, and some group of retards waltzes in and gets her moved because they don't "like" Rebellion or Homu or are too stupid to understand the series of events properly.
Move her back OP.
>>157591787
I'm with this guy >>157591829
Their positions are fine.
>>157591787
Please guys, be tolerant, we don't remove any character, and we don't move any madoka. End of the debate.
>>157591867
"No" is a vote for that.
>>157591900
> be tolerant
Fuck you.
Nah, this debate won't be over until Homu gets moved back. The reasons for her current position amount to "I don't like talking about Madoka characters" and "I don't like Rebellion/Homu" neither of which are relevant to her position on the chart.
>>157591947
You really are fucking obnoxious.
>>157591787
Democracy is a great thing
Fuck waifufags and fuck madoka, autistic series clearly cannot be discussed peacefully
uh I stay away for 3 minutes and you guys are already fighting?
I did this
>>157590416
>>157590516
>>157590713
>>157590804
>>157591432
>>157591568
>>157590527
I'm the guy who originally posted Mai, and I have no objections.
>>157591965
You really are fucking stupid but I guess we all have our quirks.
>>157591863
I agree with this suggestion.
Johnny had it worse than Pucci.
I like to think OP is not stupid and is not going to listen to what the Homurafags has to say about anything, but I'm not so sure about that.
>>157591980
Leave Homura where she is no matter what. This discussion is over.
>>157591900
>be tolerant,
Fuck that shit. I am sick and tired of Madokafags doing their absolutely best to shit in the chart. Every fucking characters from the anime was put on a bad spot and every time that anyone argued to put them in a better spot the fans would throw a fit. Fuck that shit.
>>157591980
move homu back in lieu of an actual argument for her current position.
>>157591736
I'd go as far as to say that her deserved should be proportional to her suffering, as all suffering she feels is entirely of her own design.
She rewrote reality to suit her obsession. At this point, everything is her fault.
>>157591787
fuck waifufags, I guess this is why we can't have nice things.
fuck you, you nameless autistic avatarfag. you did this.
>>157591980
Suffering: 90
Deserve: 40
Seriously. Why isn't he anywhere on there?
>>157591980
Because the Homurafag came back to defend his waifu.
>>157591787
The poll speaks for itself
>>157592019
This shit will never end if we start removing...
>>157591965
Now you know why there's a board-wide consensus on Madoka having the worst fanbase on the board by a country mile.
>>157591980
I'd recommend you to not bother reading of that "fighting" and leave things as is.
>>157592016
Nah it's not, kill yourself my dude. You fucking idiots don't want her moved because you don't like the character and consequently assume I want her moved because I do. Really you're just dumb as hell though.
>>157591980
The consensus is in, OP: http://www.strawpoll.me/13030245/r
GUYS
what if we change homura and touma?
that'd be perfect for both parts
>>157592070
Why is the Madoka fanbase so autistic? Can we do another poll?
>>157592089
Don't change a fucking this, either lock all madoka locations or delete them. I'm sick of this shit.
>>157592072
It's fucks like you that are the reason this chart will never get finished. I actually like Madoka Magica and homer, but you need to shut the fuck up.
>>157592055
>explain multiple times why character x is in the wrong position
>she gets moved for no obvious reason
>demand that she gets moved back
>he's a waifufag!
You people are too stupid to live.
>>157592089
Fuck that noise, just remove her and all Madoka characters already.
>Madokafags derailing yet another chart thread
>>157592089
They're both fine exactly where they are.
>>157592046
>S:90
WHAT
>>157591947
>her current position amount to "I don't like talking about Madoka characters" and "I don't like Rebellion/Homu" neither of which are relevant to her position on the chart.
No shit, that's basically half of the current positions' reason.
>>157592069
So what? It's not like you have something better to do, except to complain.
>>157583660
>desert punk deserved it
capitalism bb, succ it
>punpun suffering
mental disabilities dont count
>>157592105
>It's fucks like you that are the reason this chart will never get finished.
It's braindead idiots like you who advocate for moving characters on the basis of not liking them that are the reason this discussion keeps happening. You need to kill yourself.
>>157592077
>waifufaggot proxy-rigging the strawpoll
ebin, what did we do to deserve something like him? truly, anonymous is S:100, D:100
I'm surprised nobody's added Shinn to this
>>157592141
guess what dumbfuck? That wasn't the reasoning for the position I had her originally placed in, which is why we're having this conversation.
I propose putting Homura at 100D/0S just to piss off the waifufag ITT.
Chartanon, remember how much better the thread got when we deleted Kyubey?
Let's get that back, delete all three magical autists and lets get back to the important characters.
>>157592147
I just said I liked Homura, retard. I'm just seriously annoyed by her fans who treat her like a perfect goddess. Hopefully she stays where she is.
Where is she?
>>157592163
I tried to get Kira added, but that didn't work out.
>>157592174
>I propose putting Homura at 100D/0S just to piss off the waifufag ITT.
You're only revealing your own lack of anything resembling a coherent thought supporting her position by assuming that I want her moved back because I like her.
>>157592140
Have you watched Girls Bravo?
>>157592171
calm your tits retard, I was agreeing with you there.
>>157592077
>21 votes
>consensus
Fuck off and die, leave the Madokas where they are, stop talking about them.
>>157592237
Yeah, since you flooded it with proxy votes after I made that post.
>>157592174
>Let's ruin the integrity of the chart to piss off one fanbase!
Fuck you.
>>157592237
>says increasingly nervous Homurafag
Too late to turn back. You brought this on yourself.
>>157591029
How many threads did it take to /co/ to make it?
>>157592257
You thought I was being serious?
Are Madoka threads also like this? Disgusting.
>>157592237
You fuck off, faggot.
Every single madoka girl has caused giant arguments, and it's all your fault for refusing to let her be moved. When she's not on the final, I hope you know it's because you just couldn't accept her being somewhere you didn't suggest.
>>157592189
>I just said I liked Homura
I don't give a fuck. She needs to be moved back.
>>157592300
lol keep complaining. Hopefully chartanon doesn't listen to your annoying ramblings.
>>157592289
Yes, and any other thread they manage to infest.
>>157592251
Not him, but I voted No to the removal too. Madoka is important enough to be on the chart and the characters are fine where they are. There's no need to remove them, just lock their position.
No true anime enthusiast would consider MSMM a particularly notable or interesting work. Rather it is edgy pablum for millennials, jammed with all of the masochistic 20th century philosophy they so adore, its aesthetic tedious pseudo-dadaist drivel one would expect to find floating at the bottom of something designed by R.Mutt.
Each episode following Madoka and her pals from Mitakihara as they fight assorted witches is indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert. The so-called "suffering" of the protagonists is thrust upon them not for the sake of adventure or struggle, but rather for the lurid pornographic enjoyment of its viewership. If you enjoyed MSMM, you might as well delete all your anime and replace it with hardcore BDSM fetish pornography, because it is functionally identical and equally boring.
>>157592258
Don't worry, I'll be sure to stay in your threads regardless of the poll.
>>157592300
She needs to be deleted, as do you.
>>157592289
>Are Madoka threads also like this?
Yes, and it's almost certainly the same autist who shits them up too, there's a Madoka barneyfag who lurks /a/
>>157592329
I hope chartanon doesn't listen to any of these retards from the last 50 or so posts. Bunch of dumbshits that want to throw all of the chart's progress away.
>>157592289
It's worse since there's other people like this guy.
>>157592341
Is this pasta?
>>157592329
"lol" kill yourself bud. If he doesn't then I'll be glad to know that the positions of characters on the chart are determined by how random braindead anons feel about the characters and their fanbase rather than how much they suffered or deserved it.
>>157592388Yes, but I wrote it.
>See Suffering Chart thread.
>Go in to contribute some characters.
>mfw it's being overrun by people arguing about Madoka.
You know, maybe bringing the chart over to /a/ wasn't a good idea.
With that said, for pic related...
S: 95
D: 60
I would've put him in a different spot, but the chart's already mostly filled up. So, for now, we're just filling in the blanks.
>>157592297
>Every single madoka girl has caused giant arguments, and it's all your fault for refusing to let her be moved.
How fucking stupid are you? Characters only get moved when there's a convincing argument for their new position - if she stayed where she was there would be no argument.
>>157592251
>>157592258
It's sad the Homurafag has made you guys so insecure as to interpret what I just said as pro-Homura at all. I just want your faggoty derailing discussion bullshit to stop.
We're already struggling to fill in the few gaps left in the chart, we don't arbitrarily need to create 3 more gaps because one autist pulled off an epic troll and a bunch of faggots took the bait. Ruining the chart for ulterior reasons should be avoided, which is exactly what removing all of the Madoka characters would be doing.
Plus the main point of my first post was that 21 votes is nowhere near the population of these threads. Or do you people just not know what consensus means?
>>157592391
Only person with fanboy bias here is you, clearly. Homura is staying where she is, whether you like it or not. Keep complaining and he'll probably remove her completely to shut you up for good.
Will there ever be something that might give a run through of names and maybe a brief synopsis of why a character is where they are?
I recognize some characters, but honestly not a lot of them, and some of the placement seems odd to me.
>>157592421
Congratulations! You have cancer.
>>157592351
drink some bleach and lie down.
We removed Kyubey because the difference between the opinions about his position were huge (100S/95D, 50D/100S, 0S/50D, etc).
If I'm correct this discussion about Homura's position started after she was moved 2 blocks to the right, I don't think she deserved it less than Grimmer/Touma but I could be wrong.
Since we opened the last thread with a discussion about Kyubey I'll start the next one with one about Homura's position. This shouldn't be hard since we at least agree with her position in the S axis.
We still need to check Sayaka's position later.
The thread reached bump limit, I won't create another because I need to go.
See you guys another day, good bye!
>>157592421
Not bad.
>>157592426
What kind of hell did he go through to be a S 95?
>>157592436
>It's sad the Homurafag has made you guys so insecure as to interpret what I just said as pro-Homura at all.
Shut the fuck up and kill yourself.
>I just want your faggoty derailing discussion bullshit to stop.
I promise you it won't.
>Only person with fanboy bias here is you, clearly. Homura is staying where she is, whether you like it or not.
Good thing you're not the op idiot!
>>157592470
Thanks for all your work, truly you are the anon at S100D100 at this point.
>>157592470
>I'll start the next one with one about Homura's position.
Absoluly don't do that. Don't even think about it. Give up on that idea immediately unless you want to see the entire thread and probably the chart too go to shit within 200 posts.
glad I pushed this thread full of idiots to its bump limit. See you next time!
>>157592503
Couldn't even reply to the right posts. You truly are pathetic.
>>157592503
>>Only person with fanboy bias here is you, clearly. Homura is staying where she is, whether you like it or not.
>Good thing you're not the op idiot!
You don't need to lie and pretend I'm saying stuff I'm not just to call me an idiot.
>>157592470
Thank you, OP. You are doing God's work, and you probably should change the D100S100 to you.
>>157592470
>Since we opened the last thread with a discussion about Kyubey I'll start the next one with one about Homura's position.
DO NOT DO THIS.
Just let her be. The only person who's mad is a turbosperg who's bitching about his waifu. Do not derail the thread before it even begins.
Ignore Madoka shitposts
Hide Madoka tripfags
Do not respond to Madoka shitposters.
>>157592427
I haven't bothered to argue because I know from the last 3 threads that you'll just ignore it and continue to call me retarded.
Homura deserves to be deleted, solely because of your existence. I can make that statement with 100% certainty, because I know you won't stop bitching if we come to any other conclusion.
For the record, I don't hate madoka. I was actually the anon that suggested Kyouko, and now I want her gone just to shut you the fuck up.
>>157592488
Again, I would've put him in a different spot. He gets the shit kicked out of him in almost every episode, but he's a pervert who tries to fuck everything he sees. So, he deserves almost all of his beatings.
>>157592470
>I'll start the next one with one about Homura's position
Are you some kind of twisted masochist?
Anybody asking to move or remove the Madoka characters needs to fuck off immediately and be ignored by everyone with some goddamn sense.
>>157592599
Beatings would be like a S: 30 at most.
>>157592470
>I'll start the next one with one about Homura's position.
What are you smoking and where do I get some?
>>157592564
Thought I wouldn't need to quote each post when quoting each anon's words, as I figured they'd be smart enough to discern between their own words or someone else's
>>157592565
alas, I have once again underestimated anon's stupidity.
>>157592470
See you OP, you're doing great work. Please keep this in mind if you can, I would really appreciate it. >>157591863
Why does Yang deserve to suffer more than Oberstein?
>>157592599
I don't think that you understand how much suffering a character needs to go through to get a place in the S95, like, one of the characters in the chart spent almost a century repeating a horrible situation that always ended up with her dying.
>>157592622
And that's why I wish I came here earlier.
>>157592591
>Homura deserves to be deleted, solely because of your existence.
Don't worry, idiot. I won't leave just because they delete Homura.
>>157592641
>Thought I wouldn't need to quote each post when quoting anon's words
Yeah, okay. Keep making excuses to make yourself seem less retarded.
>>157592671
Yeah, I'm sorry.
>>157592470
No don't do that, the whole thread will derail immediately and the chart will die.
Delete Homura now or don't bother coming back, because she'll be the death of the chart.
>>157592689
>Yeah, okay. Keep making excuses to make yourself seem less retarded.
Keep trying trying to find formatting errors obvious enough to help you save face! I don't think it will work because you seem genetically predisposed to very short, simple trains of thought.
>>157592641
Someone this dumb shouldn't be commenting on the shading of other pots.
>>157592470
Honestly, what's the criteria for some character who killed plenty of people to get placed before to some other characters that were just bitches or were socially awkward?
>>157592756
>Someone this dumb shouldn't be commenting on the shading of other pots.
Don't worry, your being fucking retarded precludes my giving a shit about your opinion on my intelligence. Do everyone who's ever known you a favor and stick a knife through your throat.
>>157592470
I still think you should remove Bernkastel or at least put her below someone else, but meh. At least I convinced you to put Anonymous at S100D100.
Bye
>>157592742
Were you trying to seem smart? Because it's not working, like at all.
>>157592835
I probably seem like I'm trying to seem smart because you're really fucking stupid. The world would be less confusing for you if you killed yourself, which I recommend.
>>157592890
Ouch, the edge. Anyways, I got to go now. See ya.
>relentless madoka shitters ruined yet another collaborative /a/ effort
See y'all again next year
>>157592920
Your family would be happier if you were dead! Bye!
>>157592926
Why is the fanbase so bad? Is it just the final form of waifufaggotry?
>>157592803
>>157592890
>>157592932
Wow you are seriously, actually mad right now. All I can do is call you pathetic at this point.
>>157592286
Like five.
>>157592991
Don't respond to him.
S: 90
D: 35
Itachi Uchiha
> Killed his entire clan in cold blood even though he didn't want to. Cried when he had to kill his parents.
> Lived the rest of his life hated by everyone with very few knowing he was actually good.
> Ended up succumbing to a disease and chose to end his life early by the death of his beloved brothers hand.
Do it, op.
>>157592991
You could also kill yourself, which would probably bring you more satisfaction than anything else you'll accomplish in your remarkably pathetic life.
>>157592985
It's the only form of waifufaggotry
One cute character is enough for them to label madoka a masterpiece, and they'll continually rave about it until everyone who isn't as obsessed with them gives up on the show entirely.
Madoka threads are a hive of tripfag cancer, and it spreads across the entire board just as quickly if left unchecked. Chartanon was too generous with them, and now he'll see why.
He decided to end his life early with his brother killing him***
His brother being the one person he cared the most about.
>>157593058
Having a hard time at home, anon?
>>157593038
You could probably move up the deserved a bit.
But I can agree that he's suffered alot.
>>157592300
All of the characters in Madoka are written intentionally to be flawed people. 35-50 on the deserves scale suits them just fine. Also anyone who actually wants them removed and isn't joking should go fuck themselves.
>>157593038
Chart update, read the thread or fuck off.
>>157593099
>ask to get a character move because her position is stupid
>get called a waifufag
you need leave this thread and then hang yourself.
>>157593038
>> Killed his entire clan in cold blood even though he didn't want to. Cried when he had to kill his parents.
Then why did he?
Also look at what spots are left open and pick between them
>>157593107
no, just trying to give you some helpful tips for managing your embarrassingly visible condition.
>>157593038
>>157593104
Changing Deserved to 40 as its open now.
>>157593038
He's way further on the deserved axis, anon. He ultimately chose to murder his entire clan, knowing he would be exiled from the clan. And he couldn't even finish the job, having to spare Sasuke whose own downward spiral through life only caused more suffering for Itachi as he watches his beloved little brother turn into an edgy evil psychopath.
>>157593122
>>157593130
My bad, didn't notice there was an update at the bottom. He should take Kohaku's spot at D:40 then.
>>157593138
It was between joining his clan in an uprising and getting killed with them or joining the other side and killing everyone but his brother.
OP DELETE ALL MADOKA CHARACTERS.
>>157593302
op is gone
>>157593302
I hope you don't think I'll leave just because that happens.
>>157593302
read the thread he already went to sleep
>>157593302
>retard spotted
We need anons with more than 20 iq to end this chart.
Thread is over. Can all the waifufags kill themselves already or go to sleep pls?
>>157593302
Fucking cancerous.
>>157593358
I think you need to take your own advice bud.
>>157593132
You still try to hold the high ground, I see
If you weren't just blathering on and on because Homura is your waifu, you wouldn't care about her being moved literally two spots over. You're so blinded by your obsession that you repeatedly ignore every point raised against you, and then you'll just respond to the posts that don't have any substance because those are the only replies that don't prove how retarded you are.
I'll say it again, even though I've said it 20 times in four different threads. All of Homura's suffering is because she couldn't let madoka die. In attempting to rewrite the future, she ended up killing the other three girls hundreds of times, none of which she gives a fuck about because they aren't madoka.
Now, will you respond with:
>muh rebellion
Or
>kill yourself retard
I'm waiting
>>157593478
Nope. We are many to believe you are a retard.
>>157593478
>i-it couldn't be more than one person that disagrees with me!
>>157593525
>If you weren't just blathering on and on because Homura is your waifu, you wouldn't care about her being moved literally two spots over.
Thanks idiot, I'm already well aware of the profound depth of reasoning that's gone into her being moved right. Slit your throat.
>All of Homura's suffering is because she couldn't let madoka die.
And because Madoka had to die, because she was necessary to save girls from QB. Please don't pretend like you're capable of the thought required to mount an argument.
Where would she go?
>>157593590
Yup, you went with
>kill yourself retard
Let's try again, this time I bet it's going to be "hang yourself"
>it's another "cancerous madokafags ruin the discussion" episode
You fuckers should never leave your containment thread.
>>157593620
>XDD LMFAO!!
Fuck you.
>>157593620
Hell.
WHERE THE FUCK IS JOE
>>157593660
Sure, it'll stop along with the rest of your miserable life as soon as you actually listen. I can guarantee that the lives of everyone you know will improve significantly.
When OP creates a new thread we will just put Kyubey back in the chart before you faggots notice the thread was even created
>>157593378
I wish I could sleep, is going to be my birthday soon.
>>157593590
>taking anime seriously
Calm down a little, anon. You sound crazy.
>>157593686
Are you blind?
>>157591980 S65/D40
>>157593620
Too difficult to place, same as QB. As others recommended above I wouldn't try placing them.
>>157593664
Why the fuck are the people complaining about Madokafags becoming even more cancerous? Just fuck off.
>>157593726
I support this.
>>157593709
Probably, I'm a shitty person and an even shittier anon, but at least I could spot a deranged waifushitting tripfag when I see one, and I definitely see one.
>>157593762
I guess that is an ok spot for him.
>>157593779
>I hate madokafags too, but aren't the anti-madokafags just as bad?
>>157593757
>Calm down a little, anon. You sound crazy.
let me as clear as possible for you anon: it's not anime that I'm taking seriously, it's the lives of the people you spend your time with, and the people other anons like you itt spend their time with. I just feel bad for them.
>>157593844
They are. You're fucking proving it to my face right now.
>>157593726
Good plan my fellow Madokafag
>>157593794
>Probably, I'm a shitty person and an even shittier anon
Yes I know this, but there is a solution, if only you'd reach out and take it.
Try this bud:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_bag
>>157593883
It's obvious who you are and what your agenda is, you cancerous fuck.
Please switch Kotoura-san with Victor Nikiforov. I don't think victor should be that high anyways, but kotoura suffered more and deserved it less.
>>157593898
I can't kill myself yet, not when Homura is still on the chart.
Present day madokafags shit up every thread because they are all shitposting retards from /u/. This thread is yet another example.
>>157591980
Remove YoI
>>157593911
That'd be you dipshit.
>>157593864
I don't understand. Everyone is responsible of the type of people they hang out with, and if you don't enjoy their company then stop talking to them.
>>157593779
Kill yourself
>>157593998
Sometimes people can feel socially obligated to spend time with others, when those others are coworkers or family.
>>157593998
He was trying to cleverly tell you to kill yourself, retard.
And I thought the waifufag was the biggest retard here
>>157583660
How is Angra Mainyu not @ 100S/0D? That's the entire essence of his character.
>>157594090
Yuuko deserved it even less than the stupid Avenger
>>157593038
fuck off narutards
>>157594084
>He was trying to cleverly tell you to kill yourself, retard.
If I was trying to do that I'd have been much more explicit.
>And I thought the waifufag was the biggest retard here
Judging by the intelligence radiating from your post, I'm not surprised this was wrong.
>>157594090
Fuck off.
>>157594047
That's true, but anon was talking about the fanbase and if they doesn't enjoy it then ignore it. Why poison yourself and argue with people you can easily avoid only to get yourself mad?
>>157594084
Sorry
>>157594090
OP already left the thread
>>157594130
Yeah, I'm retarded. This is known. But hey, what does it show when even the biggest retard on /a/ knows your favorite anime is just waifufaggot-pandering garbage.
>>157594251
>Why poison yourself and argue with people you can easily avoid only to get yourself mad?
As I said, out of concern for the people those anons spend their time with in real life.
>>157594281
>what does it show when even the biggest retard on /a/ knows your favorite anime is just waifufaggot-pandering garbage.
It shows that that is exactly the kind of opinion "the biggest retard on /a/" would have.
>>157594299
I don't think that's something you should care about. I mean, why? They are all strangers. It's normal to feel curious about someone, but without taking it too far
>>157594360
Sounds about right.
>>157594430
Empathy for the human race I think.
>>157594483
I stopped having empathy for people whose face I can't see a while ago. Well, cancerous waifufag or not you seems alright to me. Just stop looking for an excuse to feel bad.
gnight
>>157594670
hope you die in your sleep!
>>157594714
I go to sleep everyday wishing the same
>>157594714
You too, anon <3
>>157594758
Sad!
>>157591029
This is the final final version of that. Venom and Agent Venom were swapped and Carnage was at the wrong place there, not meant to have been swapped at all.
>>157591029
>but..but.. we don't have slots for S80
I was referencing 80+ and forgot to specify. My bad.
>>157595073
Whos that at the D100 S0
>>157595073
>still never fixed Caliborn
The Venoms were better off where they were before anyhow.
>>157595317
Clarissa's father from the webcomic Clarissa.
>>157595476
I remember that beef. It's a real good spot for Zoom but I guess he could have been swapped with Beavis and Butthead for compensation.
>>157595073
>Ice king on S15/D15
That guy slowly lost all his sanity to protect his friend while the world became infested with zombies and is only S15?
>>157595534
I think that was another character who was failed to be relocated. I gotta admit there are a few other characters who just don't fit where they are.
>>157595526
Oh fuck i remember that Clarissa comic that was dark