Will 3D anime ever not look like complete fucking arse?

>>157574598
Yeah
Look at Blame and Kimononono friends

>>157574598
>3D anime
Why would you want this?

>>157574598
Stylised ones will age far better than realistic looking ones

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yes

>>157574598
No.
>>157574643
Both trash.
>>157574720
The definition of trash.

>>157574780
>massively successful anime and a movie that has become a hit overnight
>shit
Maybe you just have bad taste?

>>157574780
The only thing trash here is your post, buddy. 3D is the wave of the future. Stick to your stupid, shading-free 2D garbage.

>>157574845
The animation is trash and the CG models are trash. This is an objective truth, just deal with it.

GANTZ had many problems. ANimation was not one of them.

>>157574914
Those cg models and animation are beloved by millions
Yet again i have to say
Maybe you just have bad taste?

>>157574972
Not him but they're a fucking meme and you know it. There's a reason why every piece of fan art looks a million times better than the actual show.

>>157574972
A million people loving the McDonalds of animation doesn't make it not McDonalds.

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>>157574598
Only when it's done as a stylistic decision (Etotama for example) instead for saving money like most anime.

But some do the budget saving 3d decently well, like YuYuYu where you barely notice the 3d unless you pause or actively look for it.

>>157574598
Eventually it'll just look like normal anime, but it can be made faster and cheaper. That'll be a golden age of anime.

Until that point we'll have to sit through a load of shit. It's always like that.

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>>157574598
Are you saying this isn't the pinnacle of animation?

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>>157575012
Most fanart looks better than most traditional shows as well
>>157575049
Nobody loves McDonald's itself, they just love the convenience
All McDonald's tier anime are 2D (naruto, bleach one piece)
A better example is cake, everyone loves it because its good

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What about them guilty gears

>>157575108
That won't happen unless all anime 3d ends up looking exactly the same, making 3d look as good as 2d is arguably harder than just using actual 2d, see: Guilty Gear Xrd

>>157574598
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoUxjQOQW7A

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>>157575195
So that's how a furry thinks. Hm, I see.
So I we manage to drag a million of you into gas chambers, the gas chambers will become a good thing for you. Hm, hm.

>>157575207
ASW has commented on how much time, effort and money it took them to have Xrd look as good as it does, not really what you want when making an anime.

>>157575215
It's just a matter of rendering. In the future we'll have rendering engines which will just make it look like anime for you.

>>157575287
How am i a furry
I posted a qt cyborg and defended shows about robots and neko

>>157575301
>In the future we'll have rendering engines which will just make it look like anime for you.
Like I said, that will just make everything look like it was made by the same guys.

>>157574598
3d anime is just an improved 3dpg, so never

>state of the art 3D animation tools
>make all animations run at 8 fps to get that TRADITIONAL ANIMATION feeling

This needs to stop.

>>157574598
That is not bad

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>>157575433

>>157575688
Why are you posting a pic of a different game? The harndheld/console Project Diva games have a very different art style to the arcade version.

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Is it worth it to watch the Arpeggio of Blue Steel anime if I like the manga? Or does the CG irreparably ruin it?

>>157575907
They are both from the same game.

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Kado looks good.

>>157576022
I can smell the sewer from here.

Etotama and Frame Arms Girls look pretty good.

>>157576022
Gravity Rush?

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>>157576164
>FAG
It's not that it looks good, it just doesn't look bad.
But they just updated the OP in the last episode replacing a few of the 3d parts wth 2d and it looks so much better in 2d.

Post the rondo duo gifs. You know you have them.

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>>157576611
>>157576611

>>157576662
What is that from?

>>157576799
Looks like to love ru to me.

I'm watching Seikaisuru Kado this season and it doesn't look half bad. Fooled me for at least 30 into thinking it wasn't CGI seconds which is pretty good. Characters move very fluently and naturally too, almost too much so.

>>157576810
I didn't think it was so outright lewd

Arse? Read a book next time.

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But I'm watching anime for plot, not for animation.

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Not as long as shows like Love Live and Kemono Shit keep blowing away series with actual effort put into them.
There is no reason for them to risk losing money animating something well when they can throw something together and make millions.

>>157576092
Rude.

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>>157577300

The stock "anime style" just isn't optimized for CG. The two most iconic aspects, the hair and eyes, tend to rely heavy on "cheating" to look right from different angles. Characters will often have a completely different head shape from a 3/4 angle than when they're looking at the camera, because it's the only way the style looks "right". That causes a huge issue with anime-style CG models, where they look weird from certain angles.

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>>157574720
Listen friends, I love this too but part of the charm of it was that despite the 3D not looking great, the heart of the show was still allowed to shine through with great character chemistry, a fun soundtrack, and simple world-building.

I think for those of us spoiled with the fluidity of traditional animation, the stiffness of CGI will never satisfy us.

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>>157577656
this is true.

>>157577893
That may be true but after I saw the chase at the beginning of episode 1 I dropped it immediately, that's some SAO opening level of bad

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western cartoons have a better chance of using 3d effectively, see: Green Lantern: TAS

>>157578040
I also questioned the popularity after that chase scene but I decided to keep going. My personal favorite is the introduction of Beaver in episode 5, but the point at which I changed my mind about the show was at episode 3 with Toki's introduction. It was then that I understood where the heart of the show would be. If you're still I'd say keep watching for a bit more with an open mind. It really is a fun little program.

>>157578233
(That should read "If you're still willing").

>>157578233
I'll give it 3 episodes maybe not this season as I've already got god awful 3D with berserk

>>157578233
I watched the whole thing and it just felt like an anime version of an American cartoon for toddlers but with worse animation.
The characters are pretty one note which was the worst part for me.

>>157575923
It's actually pretty good. There's a few odd bits here and there, but that's true of any format.
And for what it's worth, I couldn't stand the faces in Knights of Sidonia, while Arpeggio was fine to me.

I wouldn't mind 3D animation if it looked as cute and lively as Splatoon. The biggest issue is probably funding though, aside from talented heads.

>>157578455
That's fair. I haven't seen Berserk 3D, that one is truly a shame. All that beautiful line work in the manga goes to complete waste in that respect.

>>157578576
Okay, but what American cartoons for toddlers have you seen where the characters aren't incredibly simple? It personally reminded me of the times I used to watch Amazing Animals or Jeff Corwin.

>>157574598
Sure, the problem with 3D right now is people still sometimes make stuff like this that drops straight into the uncanny valley rather than settling their 3d back on the anime side or going all out to get past it.

>>157578691
As a huge fan of berserk it's sad that it's never and probably will never get a good adaption

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>>157576022
>0
What's wrong with her legs?

>>157576743
Tinklebell shit looks too squishy. It looks weird

>>157578841
I definitely feel your pain.
Hang in there.

>>157574972
Sao is beloved by millions, does it mean that it is good?

>>157578691
>Okay, but what American cartoons for toddlers have you seen where the characters aren't incredibly simple?
None but that was kind of my point.
When people are going on and on about how great the characters are I would expect them to have more depth that the cast of PJ Masks.

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>>157574598
I thought the Blame movie and khara's Dragon Dentist were very much steps in the right direction. The thing is that both of these were made by studios that put a lot of money and intern training into 3D animation, were as most other studios just outsource it to some other ghetto studio for mechanical pieces like cars or mechas or shit that's too hard to draw on schedule.
The biggest problem with the current way 3D animation is being used is that it's being used to emulate 2D animation. This creates some jarring situations were the 2D animated segments look normal because we're used to the low framerate but the 3D animation is interpolated to resemble hand drawn animation, which makes it look like a janky stop-motion. Sidonia, BBKBRK and Ajin are specially guilty of this shit and the Blame movie had that problem too in some parts.
There's also a problem specific for mecha shows in that the designs for the mecha are ridiculously convoluted and, while they make for killer merchandise, the animation is hard to follow because the silhouette of the robot is too complicated. I remember Gatchaman Crowds also having ridiculous toku designs but they put money into it and the animation looked fine
I give it 10 some years of more janky 3D Berserks for the japs to up the standard and figure out how to make a smooth transition between 2D and 3D. To expect everyone to be on a CyberConnect or ArcSys level would be ridiculous, but I'd like to think that the standards and quality will improve over time

>>157576743
I have the same issue with this that I do with certain flash animation. Each of their body movements look too much like they're pivoting at a pinned point and not really moving in a natural fashion. It makes everything look too mechanical.

>>157579083
There's nothing wrong with simplistic characters though. They're great not because they're complex, but because they have easily identifiable traits that play off each other well. It's the character chemistry that brought the show to life. It's aim was to be a simple and semi-educational adventure story with fun characters. I think it succeeded in doing so.

>>157579453
You could also describe MLP:FIM in that exact same way.
You wouldn't have to change a word.
Anyway I never really got a sense of chemistry between the characters since they were all just instantly friends outside of a few outliers like Lion, Moose, and Raccoon.
It is a cute enough show I guess and if I had to watch it with a younger relative that would be fine but I just felt like I was wasting my time watching it by myself as a grown man.

i also heard that most of the 3d animation talent goes to video game development because it gets paid better

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>>157574598
3DCG is the future of anime.

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>>157579421
I think shows like Frame Arms Girls do the juxtaposition between 3DCG and 2D fairly well in how they blend the two together and what they choose to have as 3D models. It's less jarring for a small toy to stare vapidly into space for prolonged periods of time or to have stiff awkward movements, while it would be if we were shown the same things but involving characters we're supposed to recognize as humans.

>>157579958
That's understandable.

>>157578928
It's called stylization in animation and it looks good in motion you imbecile

>>157574598
I like them because I played a lot of videogames as a kid so I grew up getting used to the style. I guess that does kinda make me >>>/v/ though, so my opinion probably doesn't count to most of you.

>>157580271
There's a French cartoon called Wakfu that did an interesting take on the concept. Instead of making their 3D models match the 2D art, they made the 3D models first and matched the 2D art to them. The result is that the 2D and 3D version of the models can switch out seamlessly within the same shot, based on what the scene calls for.

The only problem is that the show is so low budget that the animation often looks janky, but the technique itself is amazing for how cheap it is.

As a few other people have already said, it has to been as a stylistic choice.

A 3D model isn't going to emulate a 2D style perfectly, unless you go out of your way to deform it & add the imperfections to it that you see in 2D animation.

If you think about all the tricks that 2D animators do to save money, like panning a 2D background, not animating background characters, limiting camera moves that would require redrawing etc; while it may be a lot easier to do things like that with 3D software, it's immediately jarring & obvious.

But once again, as other people have said, if 3D is being used to save money they are going to be using 3D for exactly those things which is why it looks like shit.

If however you look at something like this:
>>157580090

This character lends itself to 3D very well. But you can tell that some linework was added on top, which is actually fine because it's combining the strengths of 2D/3D.

This character...
>>157580271
...does not. This character was designed to look like a 2D character but rendered and animated as a 3D one.

This character...
>>157578223
...was designed to be a 3D character, see what I mean?

>>157575931
better than the chibi shit at 240p on the 3ds

>>157581084
I've only seen people moving goalposts like this on /v/.

>>157580090
What the actual fuck is this?
It surely isn't anime.

Pretty Cure has a decent track record.

https://youtu.be/zExCCHTzBHs

>>157581164
>not anime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-PudD1UrvU

>>157581240
Happiness Charge in general is probably the peak of Pretty Cute CG

https://youtu.be/1vA8AOkQaxA

>>157574598
Yes
>when the nips learn a proper style and execution of that style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjXr9Nj5ZbI

>>157581240
>>157581411
Kira has better CG.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Ib86qUodw

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>>157582147
God, I should really catch up with KiraKira. The pink looks like a serious semen demon.

>>157582147
I didn't care too much for the style of Kirakira which is why I went for HC.

Also kirakira seems a lot less expressive and creative.

My personal favorite designs outside of Heartcatch is DokiDoki https://youtu.be/cm8C7csmWNE

>>157581268
Well, that's actually amazing. How is it that there are never TV anime with CG this good?

>>157582147
>>157581411
>>157581240
Or like this for what matters?
Toei is even doing a CG anime this season and it doesn't looks this good.

>>157582516
>Or like this for what matters?
To be fair, Precure has an almost unlimited budget, and has included cell shaded CGs for ages. Thet get two movies every year and a lot of that money is spent on refining and improving the CG musical scenes. Its THE anime for young girls in Japan and is a gargantuan franchise at this point so they can afford to have some of the best CG work that also stays on model and looks nice. The movies are where the CG really started to shine, because they had to balance all the different art styles with everyone in the same scene.

https://youtu.be/LnWpywSGTJU


I think they also came out with a game or set of arcade machines that also make money of the CG models.

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>>157581268
>see video
>recommendations have another episode
>search for more on the channel
>find no more
You can't do this to me, is that really all there is?
Loli mouse vs cat is cute as hell.

>>157582750
There's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlRU_J5qYg0 but that's it.

>>157582695
Although for me, their Magnus Opus will always be the All Stars DX3 intro, which was unusual because most of the CG scenes are EDs.

https://youtu.be/4IpkYTIgEk8

>>157582786
>Actually, it's hand drawn; but manipulated by computers. There are two animated videos on the Studio khara vs Cyber Connect 2 project. The Studio khara version is a hand drawn animation, the Cyber Connect 2 version is a cel-shaded 3D animation. This video is the Studio khara version, it is the more elegant and graceful of the two. It is less-kakkoii though.
That's really interesting, I somehow didn't even noticed the difference.

>>157582734
that actually looks cute, kill me.

>>157576743
>>157576611
Rondo Duo isn't 3D.

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Maybe

Japs need to import good westerners though, they keep trying without and keep failing

Even pick related has better animation

>>157583208
Too bad the animator overdosed on cat hair.

>>157576743
Yeah, that's puppeted 2D animation. The awkward animation just makes it look like it's 3D.

Berserk really toned down the constant camera cuts from the first season but still looks like shit. I wish I knew how to explain, half of it looks like video game animations and the other half looks like they're trying to recreate 2D like Guilty Gear Xrd.

>>157580395
I bet that model's face looks awful in profile.

>>157583351
RvB did go into shitter after tenth season to be honest

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>>157583515
That's the closest I have.

>>157578928
It's what is called a smear frame. In animation you imply weight and force with squashing, stretching and timing. So the kick deforms in motion so it can "spring" out with force on release or impact.

>>157582917
>it's hand drawn; but manipulated by computers. There are two animated videos on the Studio khara vs Cyber Connect 2 project. The Studio khara version is a hand drawn animation, the Cyber Connect 2 version is a cel-shaded 3D animation.
>it's hand drawn; but manipulated by computers
Can someone explain me this?
Both videos look the same to me.

>>157583619
Digital animation, which is as 2D as owls are birds.

>>157583619
It's called puppeted animation. Think "Flash Animation", except they draw the characters by hand before animating them instead of drawing the characters with a computer.

I believe the technique was first used in the second season of the Attack of the Killer Tomatoes cartoon, of all things.

>>157583619
There are two things it could mean: Either puppeted animation, like >>157583670 said, or Digital Tweening. Digital Tweening is where they draw the keyframes, but use computers to create the movement between them.

>>157578955
Its objectively above average
A solid 6.5
People only hate it because it's cool too

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>>157574598
3D anime looks acceptable these days.

>>157583663
>as owls are birds.
Now you have really lost me.

>>157583670
>>157583745
How does puppeted animation make full models?
What's the difference between that and just making a model from an existing design like normally?

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REMINDER: Once CGI is accepted by otakus 2D will die and we will enter the barren worst timeline of no more 2D as no investors will want to back a 2D project when they could back a CGI fest and make double the profit.

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>>157583806
Man, early 00s CG is terrifying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK6j3rkY83A

>>157576022
S-sauce?

>>157583806
Idol anime, Precure, Jojo OPs, Etotama and like 2% of mecha anime has good CG, everything else looks like shit.

>>157578576

>It felt like it was a show meant for little kids

Provably because it IS a show for little kids.

>>157583945
The same can be said for 2D animation, what's your point?

>>157577893
You're not spoiled when these things have led you toward having tastes.

>>157583998
That the low point of CG is much lower than 2D animation and much more common on anime. You will get like 3 shows good looking CG on the year at best, which none are a full CG series.

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>>157575207
>polygons on her leg bands
>calves look wrong
>something about panty outline
>the way the leg folding into the hip looks wrong
could be better. nice sharkteeth though.

>>157575923
The manga is better, the CG is barely tolerable and the plot is vastly simplified and goes anime-original beyond episode 6. To me it's just a nice bonus seeing the characters animated and voiced.

>>157577656
And studios are adapting to it by modelling the heads from multiple perspectives and allowing them to be deformed as needed for exaggerated faces. Obviously some technological adaption is needed when you're not targeting photo-realism.

>>157582516
Budget and time constraints. shorts for an animation exposition or frequently reused pieces like EDs are totally different beasts compared to complete shows. The CG toei uses for non-stock action scenes in precure movies looks a lot less polished than the EDs for example.

>>157583945
change takes time. it was the same shit with the transition from cel to digital. colors were shit, resolution was low (no BD remasters for you). now they can do things that would have been impossible with cel.

>>157583816
The field of computer graphics is inundated with so much autism that you could fill /a/ with it.
Both of the terms "digital animation" and "CGI" only imply that a computer was involved. They could have scanned a hand drawing and colored it in Photoshop, or they could have started and ended in Adobe Illustrator or a similar application geared towards animation.

Only the term 3DCG implies usage of 3D models. All of this terminology can be easily skewed together, because animation is essentially an entire field made up of hacked together tricks.
Look at the Rondo Duo gifs for an example.
>>157576743

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>>157583882
AKA the Disney Timeline.
That'll be a sad fucking day for sure.

>>157584119
As a general rule, when anons say "digital" that means digital ink and color process, aka 2D animation but not cel. CGI is mostly used synonymously with 3DCG.

If this can be rendered in real time at 60fps just imagine what something pre-rendered would look like.

>>157584400
And I forgot my link like a retarded Neanderthal.
https://youtu.be/3dGFRLz7QoQ

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>>157580395
>>157583594
the shading makes it look too much like plastic or porcelain.

>>157584291
I want to live in the timeline where Disney poured money into 2D technologies and the latest angry birds movie was in high quality 2D instead.

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>>157584565
Some PVs use different shaders.

>>157584565
The movement looks so static and stiff

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H 3DCGI best shows that 3DCGI can be good.

>>157584291
Disney had some of the best animators in the world, so sad to see hundreds of them gutted and their skills left to do concept art or whatever else they can contract themselves out with.

>>157584721
All H 3D shit looks horrible. /co/ and even /v/ stuff prove 3D can be good.

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Also, H MMD.

How come video games can do 3D anime better than, well, 3D anime?
Is it the vast difference in development times or is there just a glaring difference in competency?

https://youtu.be/Zb23-qAOjeg?t=43

>>157574598
Maybe if Japs knew how to use 3d animation correctly?

MMD graphics anime when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns7jeST41SM

>>157584721
RIP MimiaCute. He gave up on 3DCG H animation forever.

>>157584851
A mix of many factors. Budget, development time, ability to attract talent and the amount of content they have to produce. 12x20 minutes of animation is not the same as a few cut scenes.

>>157583594
Yeah, that's kind of derpy looking.

There was a new technique someone came up with a while back where models have no face. Instead, they just have the eyes and mouth floating in front of the head in a way that creates the illusion that they're attached. It allows the eyes and mouth to change position based on the orientation of the camera, so they can make sure the eyes are always in a "good" position.

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>>157584992
>MMD graphics anime when?

>>157584657
Disney did pour money into it. Movies like Atlantis, Treasure Planet or Home on the Range had budgets over 100 million, not much less than Frozen's 150.
Other studios like Dreamworks also tried but the audience didn't appreciate it.

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>>157584830
I'd say the reverse, but it all just purely depends on the tools used anyways. You can get H 3D to look exactly like /co/ and /v/ H 3D by just using their tools, as Vocaloid porn with TDA models but using Source Filmmaker proves. (Image not related.)

>>157584851
Because having 2 years to create a really good looking 5 minute work isn't the same as making TV anime or even a movie.

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>>157584995
Really? I didn't know.

>>157585036
Do Japs not have access to modern day GPUs and CPUs? You would think they could try rendering shit slightly.

>>157584291
What about https://youtu.be/TZJLtujW6FY?
It's computer animated 2D.

>>157585162
That's basically japan's equivalent of a flash animation cartoon made on a 2 bowls of rice per day budget.

>>157585162
Yes that one 3 minute long gag web anime proves Japan cannot afford modern equipment.

>>157585056
You are right. Looks like 3d is just more eye catching and what American audiences want. Always feels bad being the minority.

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>>157584833
Flim13, takaha4, tamamochang, JAX, nanasi108, HK5dz3, and 古い are gods when it comes to extremely lewd MMD animation.

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>>157574598
Sure

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>>157585448
4/4, great taste, Anon.

>>157585448
That looks like shit. Look at those shadows. And the mouth and chin looks bad too.

>>157574598
Who cares? As long as they're good, nothing else matters.
inb4 "but anime can't be good if it looks bad"

>>157585491
The still parts look decent, the transitions are jarring.

>>157584833
W-what's this?

>>157584657
You can shit on Disney for numerous things, but they did try to keep 2D alive with stuff like Princess and the Frog and Treasure Planet. Its not their fault that audiences have shit taste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZAY-78zhmw

>>157585162
No, they do everything on their flip phones and then they send the animation with a fax

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>>157586156
A GIF of an older, ecchi MMD video.

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>>157574598

Yu Asakawa is the best.

>>157586285
What MMD?

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>>157583121

>>157586562
They look like toys.

>>157586608
>precure
>toys
pick two

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>>157586608

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>>157586338
I don't remember, but the model is Kakomiki's Alice. Might be one of wagu's videos, but wagu removed all his videos on NicoNico.

Judging by the cat ears and nipple stickers, it might be sm200007850.

Luckily, I save everything, so I have it. I just uploaded it to MEGA:
https://mega.nz/#!0J0Xma4L!12zmOn1CBhefa5huYRoQjy2Chru2R-lBgEs_xlgV_n0

If you like this sort of stuff, you could lurk /e/'s MMD thread.
>>>/e/2068249

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>>157586794

>>157586830
Thanks anon.

>>157574643
>picks the worst examples

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>>157576002

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>>157586830
I like lewd MMDs

>>157587086
>>>/e/

>>157587129
Don't you mean >>>/d/ ?

>>157587172
/anythingbuthere/ really

>>157587086
Now, that just looks like shit, the other one was far better.

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>>157587205
You don't like breasts, son? What are you, a faggot?

>>157587249
DFC is the thinking man kind of breasts.

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>>157587307
You're only replying to me because you want to see more breasts.

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Then I won't reply to you fag, I will just post superior Japanese woman drawn over a thousand times.

>>157586156
>>157586338
Oh, now I remember. It's a wagu video with the wagu cat motion, i.e. a different video. I know that I have that, too, but I don't find it right now.

>>157574598
Why does almost all Japanese 3DCG look like lowpoly shit? Modern fucking gameengines can render better picture. Also it's usually 8fps eyecancer.

>>157587342
You remind me of a sick fuck I know who enjoys erotic roleplay and modding Elder Scrolls games to look like the webms you post.

>>157587830
Disgusting. Who the fuck plays Elder Scrolls games?

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>>157587724
Where exactly do you want those extra polygons?

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>>157588219
>directed by jj abrams.webm

>>157588327
Have you seen the new star trek reboots?

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>>157588547
I just heard they have many explosions.

>>157588618
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALHiJaSPrns

>>157588327
it's a good joke, nigga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r37ARGRJC-k

>>157590592
meh, that's practically live-action.

>>157574643
All polygon stuff looks like shit.

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Post yfw some random no name YouTuber perfects 3d anime girls and it hasn't been mentioned yet

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>>157591310
Hai Domo virtual YouTuber Kizuna Ai dess

>>157591310
>e-celeb shit

>>>/v/

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>>157591310
Kizuna AI's model was made by TDA, a prominent MMD modeler.

MMD wins again.

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>>157591456
>e-celeb shit

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>>157591496
>>157591732
I know I'm winning an argument when a person is so desperate for a response they spout
>muh /v/
Or
>reddit
Ai Kizuna is much cuter and better looking than most 2d anime girls, and shows 3dcg can look better than 2d when handled correctly

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>>157591902
To be fair, anime doesn't even need to be animated well to be good nowadays. 3D, 2D, as long as the girl is cute it's fine. She's not anime though just because her model is fappable.

>>157585601
This. Still the more impressive example I have seen so far. But would work mostly for something full of slideshows like the Lodoss OVAs

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>>157591968
Ai even calls herself an anime ai doesn't she?
Regardless, something like her would be a huuuge improvement over most 3d

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>>157592074
>something like her
>perfect 2DPD whores don't exist

>>157592074
>>157591902
Yeah no, she looks terrible in motion.

>>157592003
That thing is animated at 30fps. Just dropping the framerate might be enough.

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>my favorite manga gets an anime
>its in 3dcg

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>>157574598
TELETUBBIES ANIMES!

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>>157592113
But you're objectively wrong, she looks more fluid and natural than nearly all traditional anime
Occasionally her hair clips things, but that could Easily be avoided if there were an animation team and it weren't made by some random nip girl with a cute voice

>>157592704
>he thinks a shitty mocap rigged to an MMD model is by any concept good animation
>he thinks one person alone can animate and voice and mocap and deliver weekly content by herself
>he thinks his shitty waifu channel isn't managed by animation team an a B list no-name seiyuu
kizunafags confirmed for clinically retarded. I bet you unironically watch Eromanga and pretend that's how imoutos act

>>157584107

The anime taking away all iona's silly faces and making her a deadpan reiclone was criminal.

>>157594023
But that sells more, anon!

>>157593511
I think you're being baited anon. Just don't even respond to him.

>>157574598
Yes, but only to the extent of 3D models being used to animate things that look traditional 2D animation. Many of the anime stylizations don't translate that well into 3D.

>>157574936
I just watched it
It was great except for the TWEEST and Nurarihyon laser spam dragging long as hell

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>>157584721
NEVER EVER.

>>157594288
mother of god that's terrifying
i guess the red eyes are the shines?

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We should use puppets.
CG was a mistake.

>>157595213
We should use cardboard cutouts instead

>>157595213
>>157595166
Fuck 3d. Puppets is the future.

>>157592385
wait this is 3d? im kind of interested, their hair especially would be very difficult in 2d. plus the bgs and interactables in the manga are very sweeping and empty. it's very attractive for a 3d project.

Why no one just make a 3d model, and then, like...Just draw over it? Bam! Now you got both easy, cheap and quality animation with the delicious hand drawn looks.

I'm a fucking genius, niggers.

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>>157574598
We'll get there eventually, but only if companies keep investing in it and even then, it might take another decade.
Maybe by the time it actually happens, we'll have files that render episodes in real time instead of video files.
Until then you're gonna be stuck with years of experimentation.

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>>157574598
Luka a cute

>>157585448
Chobi and MantisX are great too!

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>no claymation anime
It's already scientifically proven to be the pinnacle of western animation

>>157574646
>Why would you want this?
VR.

>>157598797
I'd rather 3D which maintains the illusion of 2D for VR, like the technology behind facerig.

>>157591902
>can't even jump
wew lad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhpC-T9zb4U

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>>157597738
MantisX uses Blender or something though, not MMD. I still find it hilarious that he used to do those adorable, weird 3DCG Chen videos before unleashing his inner lolicon and doing only porn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBUPcH9VDfY to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKEV4ovRP-o to http://ecchi.iwara.tv/videos/d0vjwce0gfkxewqz?language=ja
Patoots is baking creampies now.

>>157574598
Will I ever not be complete arse at this game?

>>157599501
>MantisX uses Blender or something though, not MMD.
Its still hot, so who cares?

>>157574598
There's plenty of 3D in anime right now that looks perfectly fine, but people only pick up on the bad ones.

>>157574598
3D looks dumb. I hope it stays 2D.

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3d certainly dance better/smoother than 2d

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>>157599993
There's something about anime girls dancing to western songs that's so appealing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqxB9FFYmJQ (lewd)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ8pubTfj5w (not lewd)

>>157599993
Rotoscoped dancing looks better

>>157600177

Evidence.

>>157600172
>There's something about anime girls dancing to western songs that's so appealing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_4TKRgEr9U

>>157592385
Same, something died inside of me when I read the news. At least it's Studio Orange, which has made some amazing mecha CGI, and the Love Live perfomances have massively improved over the course of time (animation wise). It's also their first time making a full series.

I'm more worried by the fact that the director is a fucking talentless hack, but if he respects the panelling there's a chance he won't fuck up.

>>157599501
That animation style scares me

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>>157600398
I really like how everything seems to be exploding in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMo276DFZkQ

So anyone else download a bunch of these onto their phone and watch/listen to them at work? Some of these are really cute.

www.iwara.tv/videos/dg6gmfoa2c7jewjo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RZ6-OH9AnY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3b1WrGaeIg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpiF42JXbE8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wg74WZ51jg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TGPIOEtIPA

I don't keep lewd ones on my phone, too risky.

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>>157574598
Not unless they put some actual money behind the animation and post processing.

>>157576022
So, are we getting a seasonal anime or not?

>>157592385
Holy Toledo! Source on that?

>>157576979
Ballsack is the cutest

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No matter how good the 3D is, 2D will always be superior in the end.

https://my.mixtape.moe/uxadrt.mp4

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>>157601135
I'm sorry, but I prefer my autistic 3D Gourai to this cute 2D Gourai.

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>>157601135

>>157600838
Does it seem to you that a lot of the nip dance sequences have a lot of formulaic, or repeated moves across the spectrum? A lot of the choreography seem like rehashes of each other. There are some I still like though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoveIhHjlYU

>>157574654
Only smart anon in this shitty thread.

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>>157601135
>Not this frame for Stylet

>>157601135
In this specific case I disagree.
They look better in 3D.

>>157592385
At least is one of the few 3DCG studios with good record.

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If it's actually well done 3DCG then I'm actually excited because it can look godly in the right hands
I don't like low budget CGI that looks like it's from a ps1 game

>>157601689
How exactly?
Having only looked at that comparison, the 2D version has more details, looks smother, is more expressive and has more animation as a whole. How does the 3D looks even sightly better?

>>157598211
Well here's some don't know about claymation, but here's some Japanese stopmotion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge18Ieyi9bI

>>157602541
Is that seriously the best example you could think of?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsWMjLWP5eE

>>157602574
G-gomenasai anon-senpai.

>>157602574
KIINGUU KINGGU holy shit it's been a while.

>>157600172
> 【Touhou Project MMD】Kirisame Marisa acts as Micheal Jackson
Hey, that one is pretty good.

>>157574598
Matsumoto from Abunai Sisters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNyDcI0nmE0 is one of the most accurate looking asians in anime I've ever seen.

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>>157603032
Why couldn't you just let me forget about this?

2D anime is almost never highly detailed anyway, why are people suddenly looking at low detail 3D and going "THIS IS WRONG" when 2D has even less detail

No. Because anime companies use 3D to save money, but good 3D animation costs more than good 2D animation.

>>157603062
Because >>157601242 >>157601135 >>157576349

>>157596210
Would she make a good wife?

>>157574598
2D will always be superior even if faggots try to shill 3DCG garbage like Blame.

>>157602108
It looks more like actual FAGs.
The better and more detailed animation makes them look more like humans then toys.

I don't think Knights of Sidonia would have looked better 2D at all. The 3D is perfect for it.

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>>157602108
The anime sets up a dichotomy it follows throughout the series that it rarely ever breaks where only robots (or possessed inanimate objects) are 3D while everything living is 2D.

>>157592385
>some manga i like
>gets turned into rotoscoped anime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJz2WB3dF10

>>157592385
that's what you get when you can't save pixiv images in full size

JUST BE FRIENDS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bFHtxYxzis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwuHY0jz9fE

Seems possible, Aikatsu improved a lot in 3-4 years.

>>157595901
That's called poser tracing and there are some western comics that make good use of it. It doesn't work in animation because you basically have to do double the work for no appreciable gain.

>>157582839
>SUB ITA
Italians do love precure.No idea why tho'

>>157584291
If some animator showed me this in his portfolio i would hire him immediately. It's amazing

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>>157599501
It's funny how things change with time, isn't it?

>>157585162
This was made during the meiji period

>>157574598
But I like fucking arse anon.

>>157574598
KADO was pretty good

>>157574598
Will casual anime watchers ever stop complaining about 3DCG in anime?

>>157609451
What is a non casual anime watcher? Someone who watches anime under extreme conditions? Someone who gets paid for watching anime?

>>157600629
Is there no fucking way to download files from youtube??

>>157610815
youtube-dl

>>157575288
but they made Xrd like that because they where on a lack of budget for 2d, not because it was expensive.