Why is no one trying to write good mahou shoujo these days? Is

>>157557733
It all turns into dark Madoka shit now unless you watch PreCure.

>>157557803
There's nothing wrong with that in theory if it turns out better than Madoka. The thing is it doesn't.

>>157557803
Mahou Shoujo was pretty much dead years before madoka

>>157557844
>>157558051
What else is there that doesn't other than the 2 seasons of the short we had last year?

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>>157558089
>other than the 2 seasons of the short
Hmm?

>what else is there
Exactly

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>>157557733
Because mahou shoujo isn't popular, I guess. Though there are still some good ones here and there.

>>157558144
>Hmm
Hmm what?
>>157558147
Oh yeah we had this too.

>>157557733
Because nobody has the attention span to watch long running monster-of-the-weeks anymore

>>157558147
>mahou shoujo isn't popular
Precure is popular, right?

>>157558051
Anime ruined Mahou Shoujo but the west has revived it with pretty good shows that actually carry a plot instead of just being lewd or edgy.

>>157558324
>but the west has revived it
The who did what now?

>>157558258
13 episode format was a mistake.

>>157557733
Because PreCure exists

>>157558310
>>mahou shoujo isn't popular
>Precure is popular, right?

But there hasn't been another mahou shoujo TV series to compete against Precure

There's not much good younger audience anime compared to previous decades.

>>157557733
Twin Angel Break

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>>157557733
>good
>mahou shoujo

>>157557733
But we had flip flappers past year.

>>157559802
That's just your run-of-the-mill gainax experience. We've got more of those these days than actual gainax shows.

>>157559802
>Flip Flappers
>mahou shoujo

>Flip Flappers
>good

>>157559802
>flifla
>mahou shoujo

>>157559850
>>157559877
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_Flappers
Genre: Magical Girl

http://www.crunchyroll.com/flip-flappers
Tags: Magical Girl

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=18177
Themes: magical girl

>>157560038
Even if that were true, it's still not good, like OP asked.

>>157560038
>ANN tags
>accurate

>>157560089
The first nine episodes were fantastic. The rest was okay. That averages out to good.

>>157560154
>The first nine episodes were fantastic.
Yes.
>The rest was okay.
No, they were fucking shit.
>That averages out to good.
Only if you regard all episodes as equals like a dumb fag. The last third of the show is the most important, it's the climb to the climax and the climax itself. If you ruin that then the whole show is a complete waste.

>>157560308
>the last third of the show is the most important
I disagree. The main draw and appeal of the show to me was the sense of adventure of exploring different PIs. I wasn't really concerned about the true nature of PIs or the KKK's plot. I would have been totally fine if the show was just episodic adventures with no overall plot.

And besides, nips are always shit at endings.

>>157560688
That doesn't really disprove what I said. But, I do agree with you. All the stupid plot needed to sod off and the show should have been wacky PI adventures from start to finish. That would have been damn near perfect.

>>157560688
>The main draw and appeal of the show to me was the sense of adventure of exploring different PIs. [...] I would have been totally fine if the show was just episodic adventures with no overall plot.
Yeah no shit, that's why the entire finale of the show is considered shit by most people

>>157557733
Precure dominates the "not my edgy grimdark turns out the mascot pet is the evil overmind of this wicked operation like a player".

Everyone else fights for scraps in that market, you last contender was Keikaku and that was hot trash. Matoi did mediocre, aspects of mahou shoujo were there but the pacing and approach was either too rushed base on its time limits or just poor writing at times.

>>157557733
Because only old men watch Mahou Shoujo these days so they are made with that in mind. Not that that's a bad thing in itself, but the combination of both factors apparently ends up generating shit by default.
Young girls aren't that much into stuff like that anymore either, or at least the old men with money for BDs and figurines overshadow them. No worth in making something for a dead market.

>>157561768
What do kids watch these days then?

>>157561882
Yokai Watch, Doraemon, Conan, the same shit. That anon is wrong though.

>>157561882
>Japan
>kids
Anon...

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>>157557803
Some series really do acknowledge their predecessors while doing their own thing. To cast modern magical girls off as being grimdark when they've simply evolved to better accommodate changing demographics is a poor decision to make.

>>157557733
Look at the bright side, you can watch hidden gems from the past that you missed.

LIke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzEQ1n7EHPM

>>157561583
Keikaku was fantastic. The show was willing to do brutal and tragic things without overselling them the way many "edgy grimdark" shows do. If you hated it you must either love cliches, can't stand tragedy, or have no empathy.

>>157562309
Keikaku was the most by-the-numbers battle royaly plot I've seen in a long time

>>157562309
what >>>157562802 said.
I liked the tragic backstories but the actual plot was pretty shit. It was just forced conflict. Nothing really memorable. Yuyuyu was the same.

Last decent one was Pleiades. Personally I'm getting tired of all the edgy/battle mahou shoujo. It's like when you fap to too much /d/ stuff that you loop around and want some vanilla.

>>157562936
Everyone is just chasing afer the ghost of Madoka without really understanding what made Madoka good and just going for the 2edgy route

Nirvana is a pretty recent manga about a magical girl.

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>>157557733
I feel you, OP. I wish we had a good mahou shoujo in recent memory.

>>157557803
This faggot never watched Houkago no Pleiades

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>>157557803
>>157557844
>>157563033
But there is already a Mahou Shoujo series that turned out better than Madoka.

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>>157563365
>>157564265
Pleiades was so fucking good. I have to buy the BD Box someday.

I enjoy things like Madoka or the Yuusha series from time to time, but its really those types of shows leave a lasting impression on me.

>>157557733
Youjo Senki