Is the chart completed? I haven't seen it done! The most

>>157544847
>Daiz didn't make it
I'm slightly disappointed.

>>157544847
Where's Deku?
> Bullying the whole childhood.
> Broke almost every bone in his body.
> Failed in the tournament.
> Lost first place in the character poll for his biggest rival.
> Lives every day knowing that his greatest idol will have to die so that he becomes his successor.

Instead we have Osamu, from World Trigger, who practically never suffered damage since all the fights are "fake", and Light who is a psychopath and only suffered in his last seconds of life.

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>>157546043
Get in line. I'm still waiting for Stain to get on the chart.

>>157546043
>Light who is a psychopath and only suffered in his last seconds of life
The threads have been struggling to fill the right side of the chart. They need every bad guy with any suffering that they can muster.

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>>157546154
I would say DIO's character as a whole belongs right up there but it looks there's quite a bit of JoJo on there already. Maybe Kira would be a better choice.

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>>157546150

>>157544847
Sinbad suffered a lot, but he didn't really deserve it imo. He only became a dick near where the manga is at right now.

>>157546150
Did Stain suffer enough for the 80S spot?

>>157546732
You fucking bet.

>>157546732
>uh duh I hate heroes
>I kill them
I don't think so

>>157544847
In what way is Moguro suffering?

We can't advance without the first OP around.

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>>157544847
He deserves to get on the chart

Kaiji doesn't deserve to suffer that much

>>157546973
I could start a new thread but in 1 hour I'll be away for ~70 minutes, is that ok?

>>157544847
It's not done, I already have proposals ready for an amendment.

>>157547013
Wolfram would be perfect above Zera.

>>157547099
I won't be around either. You should probably wait until you have the time.

>>157547099
yes

>>157547099
christ anon, how am I even supposed to get my recommendations through this way? At least in the early stages we had an europoor-friendly OP.

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Still waiting for Fuhrer Bradley, he need to be here

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>>157547013
Best boi and did nothing wrong

>>157547013
Holy shit I hate this faggot so much. Getting impaled alive wasn't enough punishment for him.
>>157547212
Fuck off

>>157547156
>>157547166
>>157547181
I mean, it's one hour with me, 70 minutes without and then I can stay for 3 hours.
>>157547156
Will you be on in those 70 minutes? That'd help a lot

I know guys, you want to put your favorite character, but it won't fit. Try to find characters that fill the blanks.

Did Yabuki Joe ever make it on?

>>157547326
This part shouldn't be difficult, we only need some assholes that suffered a lot

Soo is anyone going to make a list showing all of the series that each character is from?
I like my sufferporn.

>>157547317
I'll be fast asleep by then. How about I give you my draft and then you see what you can do?

>>157547358
Well, that's harder than it looks.

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Add this faggot

>>157547317
Sorry, I can't.

>>157547371
Hand me your suggestion, I'll put it up for discussion in the next thread and if nobody disagrees I'll add it

>>157547440
Oh, that's a shame.
I'll try to create a new thread in 2 hours and 30 minutes then. I'll have 3 hours for it

Why is Griffith not in the top tier of suffering? For God's sake he [/spoiler] had his tongue cut out, was starved, had his tendons cut, and was tortured for over a year in a dungeon

>>157546826
>Fucking speedreaders
Stain only hated the heroes that were only heroes to make money or get famous. He tried to get into hero school, but was rejected over other people who were only there for artificial reasons. He then goes around killing and maiming people deems unworthy to be real heroes before being beat and locked up by the kinds of people he actually admires. He was totally right, but just went about fixing the problem in the wrong way.

>>157547644
it was peanuts compared to what Angra went through, and it was peanuts compared to what Kohaku went through and she's even lower than him. It's possibly also peanuts compared to what the Count went through. He's fine where he is.

>>157547402
Wolfram, Professor Nemuro/Mikage from Utena. How many more are needed?

>>157547644
The guy under him is from Konosuba and he was doomed to pass eternity in hell being tortured because he made several pacts with a demon
Griffith should be even lower

>>157547644
Characters > 90 have basically lived a hell for their entire live and some, during centuries. Griffith's hell last 3 years.

>>157547727
I'm not sure what they went through, but it must be worse than leaving a young man in a vegetative state the rest of his life

You need to go through the same experiences as one of the S100, who do you choose?

>>157547978
at least Zeref had a nice waifu

>>157547978
Qbey.

Who's the woman just below Guts?

>>157548086
Marida Cruz from Gundam UC

>>157548086
Puru 12

>>157544847
Luluco can't be same S as Kirua, we need to swap her down.

>>157544847
>Subaru
>being on the same level of Punpun
This is rubbish.

>>157548467
Yeah, Subaru should go down a little bit. He didn't suffer more than Nina or Chrono. And he deserved almost all of it

>>157544847
Why is the image of Diavolo the one where Bruno is in his body

Does anyone have the one where he screams in agony, or at least one of Diavolo as Diavolo?

>>157547013
ANOTHER GOOD DAY IN WOLFSMUND

>>157547013
Where would you put him?
>>157548405
We had some complains about her and Polnareff too. Who would we switch her with?>>157548560
Do you have a better image?

I only have 20 minutes guys pls don't start any discussions about Kyubey/Homura/Okabe/Touma/Misaka

Agni is no longer going to be on fire for all eternity so his life recently took a turn for the better
I'm not sure if he's 100 suffering material anymore

>>157548467
>>157548521
The arguments made by the Re:Zero guys were pretty convincing, he's being killed again and again in torturous methods. Not sure about the 'deserve' bit though.

>>157548662
He just rubs some people up the wrong way, probably because he reminds them of themselves or something idk.

>>157548641
How about swap Luluco with the dude in Ranma. It is quite as funny as having Polnareff this high...

>>157548641
>>157548798
I think it'd be better to switch her with Lain.

>>157548798
>>157548840
Ranma guy or Lain, who suffered more?
I think it would be good to change her with Lain since she didn't deserve it, but I want to hear you guys first.

>>157548917
Ranma guy didn't suffer.

>>157544847
Why is Eren alongside the likes of Hyoudo or Truniht?

>>157548798
>>157548641

>They don't know about post Stardust Crusaders Polnareff

He literally gets body swapped with a turtle.
And never gets swapped back.

>>157548917
Ok for Lain.

>>157544847
Yang and Reinhard should've been somewhere

>>157544847
Friend should be much much much higher if we're considering Katsumata

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>>157548917
Hey chart anon, arrow anon here.
As promised here's my draft with motivations.
I am deeply disappointed to see that Akane was dindufied. I'd propose moving her more to the right, but that would be disrespectful towards the other characters I don't know. Instead, I just propose a minor correction, and swap her with Kodaka. Kodaka hurt people out of carelessness, while Akane's actions were deliberate. I strongly urge you not to move her anymore, but I won't be here next thread so my voice won't be heard. Sucks to be me, I guess.

I moved Kohaku up as she was raped and abused as a child. It's definitely on par, if not more, than what Kiara went through, and just as much as Shiki in my humblest opinion. She also definitely suffered more than Sakura. You know I very rarely push characters upwards, I felt this was a necessary correction though.

I moved the Count down as I strongly feel he didn't suffer as much as Kars, for instance. He was imprisoned and his body taken over by an alien, but I am having an hard time believing he suffered more than Archer, Ken and that other guy from blazblue (I read a post and apparently he suffered a whole lot).

>>157548405
>>157548641
>>157548798
>>157548840
>>157548943
>>157549030
Luluco and Lain swapped (pic soon)
>>157548965
You mean in the D axis?
Where would you put him?
>>157549047
We only have 8 slots left and all of them for high D and high S would they fit there?

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>>157549218
My autism got to me.
Dedede (D:30, S10 to D:70, S10) because he literally spent millions of tax dollars on hired assassins to kill an innocent pink puffball. And a lot of his actions actually pose a hazard to the people. He deserve a spot that is not just one spot next to Satania.
Ika Musume (D:40, S:10 to D:30, S:10) because she is the same as Satania in mindset, but unlike Satania, her actions have consequences sometimes, so she's slightly above her in deserving.
Reimu (D:70, S:10 to D:40, S:10) because although she avoids her shrine maiden duties a lot of the times and is a little greedy, she knows good from bad and does what's best for Gensokyo when she is needed. Kind of like Nyaa-tan above her, being lazy and useless at times, but she doesn't have the same living conditions.

Reigen (D:35, S:10 to D:50, S:10). He's literally a con artist. There's a con artist on D:50, S:5 as well. Sure he saves Mob's ass sometimes, but that's done half so to secure his assets really.
Kokoro-chan (D:50, S:10 to D:35, S:10) Prideful and gets in the way of solving crimes most of the time by not letting Milky Holmes in on the case. But even so, she's no Aqua being literal scum most of the time. She cares for her squad, and even Milky Holmes sometimes. Good at heart, but still needs to learn that there are things you don't know even when you have graduated Harvard, while skipping grades and having an IQ of 10,000,000,000.

>>157549218
Well I'm not sure he's done anything to deserve suffering as much as irredeemable pieces of shit such as Hyodo or Truniht
Should've been at 55 or something

>>157546732
Not even close. I would argue against him being even 60S, never mind 80.

>>157549218
One could say they would, despite being genuinely good persons they truly regret taking the lives of millions of people

Guys, look at the chart and try filling the blanks before asking why your favorite character isn't there. Peace.

>Yashiro on the chart
Which one of you faggots did this

>>157549210
Why the fuck are the YuYuYus all so high, especially Sonoko?

>Victor
>national sports celebrity with an unclear backstory who maybe neglected his personal life for sports
>30 suffering
okay.jpg

>>157549361
Thanks for your input, I'll start the next thread (~120 minutes) with these changes and see if everybody agrees with it.
>>157549390
He's in a complex area, I'll see what I can do to lower his D

I'm going guys, will be back soon. Peace

>>157549527
I am not in charge, nor do I know who they are.
>>157549695
Please notice my amendments too!

>>157544847
Victor Nikiforov (30S:10D) shouldn't be there at all.

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Please change Utena picture, she looks stupid

>>157549218
Put Stain in
Suffering: 85
Deserving: 70
you just have to read up the thread a bit to see why

>>157549210
Oh and I'll see about yours too! Almost didn't see it
Thanks for the arrows, they help a lot

>>157549527
>Why the fuck are the YuYuYus all so high, especially Sonoko?

Fanboys.

>>157544847

>Fortuna
>100

>>157544847
Why is Megumin on the same suffering level as the girl with a malicious and abusive single mother?
Somewhere on S:30 would be more fitting

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Request Chrona for S70 D45

>>157549877
She had an equally difficult childhood, maybe even more.

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>>157549877
S80
D80

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>>157549762
Forgot picture

Did Bern really suffer that much?
I can understand why she deserves it, but I don't really think she suffered at all.

Guys, most of the cast, you're asking why we put there, has been discussed for almost a week. If you think a character doesn't fit his place, argue and don't ask why.

>>157549762
>Suffering: 85
What?

>>157549210
>I moved Kohaku up

But should she really be higher than Sakura? Sakura suffered more than she had, isn't it?

>>157550031
She technically is Rika though. The sufferring is heavy there.

>>157550094
Not that I think about it he fits better in this spot
S: 70
D: 45

>>157549988
I love Eto but disagree with you that she suffered this much

>>157549940
She had a family that loved her, which is a pretty massive step up
Besides, a lot of her suffering is self-inflicted. If she wasn't so obsessed with explosions she could make a living as a wizard with much more ease

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Where's Maria?
MC too, although I can't remember his name. Looping through the same day until space-time breaks around you until you finally come out of it all barely "alive", requiring years of therapy in order to be slightly aware and even more to be functional...

>>157550117
Sakura was harassed by worms, Kohaku was raped since she was a little kid until she turned into a doll. I don't know man, it's the one correction I feel the weakest about.

>>157550031
She's literally Rika. They spell it out for you during the Logic Error in EP6

where's the spot for the reader of bleach?

>>157550182
The MC is there at 95S 75D

>>157550238
Whoops, nice catch, I suck cocks etc

>>157550157
>Suffering: 70
What?

He isn't even comparable with others on axis 70.

Stain should be lower

>>157550157
Still way too high in the S scale. What did he do to suffer more than say Gaara, Al or even Keyneth?

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>>157550119
>>157550195
Then why the fuck is there Rika on S:95 D:0
If Bern's suffering is due to Rika, having both Rika and Bern seem a bit redundant.

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S: 70
D: 10

>>157550283
>>157550290
Well shit. I can't really find anywhere else t out him on the chart seeing as how I don't personally know most of these characters.

>>157550174
Sure, they loved her. Didn't stop her dad from neglecting his family so he could pursue his dream, leaving his wife with virtually no money to care of her, meaning she spent the first twelve years of her life dirt poor and nearly starved several times in that timespan--and that was before she learned magic.

>>157550186
Sakura was raped by worms AND Shinji, and her suffering lasted longer than Kohaku's who eventually got Akiha on her side and orchestrated murder of her abuser

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What about this guy? I've only seen LB and Refrain, and from what I remember he had to live trough time loops like Rika, whilst trying to make MC and Rin stronger in the made up world so they could mentally bear the consequences of the bus accident. He also had to act like a douche at times, but since it all had a purpose it doesn't make him really evil.

Imo he could take the S 95 D 50 (since S90D50 has been reserved by Arrowanon) spot for now. Someone who's played the VN's and knows more about Little Busters is welcome to correct it.

>>157550450
You know what, in hindsight you're probably right.

>>157550394
>I don't personally know most of these characters.
Well, it shows.

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>>157550307
I made the same argument but I conceded that it's difficult to put Bern anywhere when there's so much misconception about her character.
Bern and Rika ARE different people. They have the same memories to a point, but at some point Bern branched off and became her own person. So their source of despair is the same, but since they become different people, you could say they deserve it to different degrees.

I don't think Bern deserves any pain at all but that's another argument. Since she's popularly seen as evil, and even wishes to be seen as such I won't contest it.

>>157550171
I believe that because she was a half ghoul, and had to kill to live since she was really young with no real family and having to deal with stuff like being hated by society at large and fighting for life for a long time would make so she deserves the spot. Even Haise was telling how all her books felts like it were written by someone that lives in complete despair, but I can understand why you wouldn't think that, we really didn't get in depth look at her past.

>>157550437
I would much rather be raised dirt poor with a loving family than well-off with a mother that despises me
While her meals aren't really desirable she never shows signs of severe malnutrition. And it's not like Yunyun would ever let her starve

>>157550534
Oh yeah, I agree with you, but having both of them there is a bit redundant, either remove Rika or move Bern down.
Maybe switching Bern with Beato would also work.

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>>157544847
>Kiritsugu and Kirei both deserved to suffer just as much as the other did.
Hang on a second there, Kerry might be a moron but he tried his best

>>157544847
Keyneth is way too low in the S scale, at minimum he should be moved two spots up.

>>157550514
Kohaku was simply more clever, proactive and malicious and ended her situation earlier

>>157550659
I think he suffered as much as Pito.

>>157550782
that's why I think her D is just right.

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>>157550502
You should really read LB, the anime does such a shit job of capturing both the fun and the serious parts of the original.
He didn't have to see his friends go insane and kill each other over and over, so it's not quite the same as Rika. Kyosuke's timeloops were basically a perfect world made to have fun for a while before they died and teach Riki how to be a man.
So you're close but probably less suffering, maybe close to 70. And he certainly wasn't evil at all. He was right and proven right. The good end happened because he didn't want to wait around forever.

>>157550659
Kayneth is on the same level as Lancer which I think is fine, he got cucked and went out badly but that's about it.

>>157544847
Nobody cares about this stupid chart, go back to /co/ pls this don't belong here.

>>157544847
What's the point of the chart? Why should I care or even find interesting the level of suffering of these characters?

>>157550637
You seem to have a misconception as to what a loving family is. As I said in my earlier post, her father neglected his family so he could craft magic items. That's far from a loving family, and while they weren't abusive like Kayo's mother, it's explicitly stated in Erased that she started hating her daughter after her divorce, which means that Kayo once had a loving family too.

As for her malnutrition, it's implied in the novel that it got really bad quite a few times, and Yunyun doesn't exist in the context prior to her entering middle school; the first twelve years of her life. Really, they have similarly shitty childhoods especially when you consider that things got better for both.

>>157550859
Pretty sure I saw the chart on /a/ months before /co/ made theirs, which the was the one OP ironically ripped off.
I remember arguing about timeloop this and that.

>>157550795
I strongly disagree, Keyneth was humiliated, had his pride and body completely destroyed, was betrayed by the women that he loved and died like a dog. He also definitely suffered a lot more than Suiryu and Garo, the guys in the spots right on top of his.

>>157550846
Then maybe the S 70 D 45 spot would be better. It's free for now, but there seems to be lots of competition for it.

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>>157550859
>>157550901
I guess some people just hate fun.

>>157551011
Try to find a way with the chart man.
OP isn't btw.

>>157551060
>fun
You're not very popular irl, don't you?

>>157550859
>>157550901
>1 min delay
Next time try harder before samefagging.

>>157551126
Not the same anon, but you're going to believe me so what's the point.

I haven't seen Fullmetal Alchemist in a couple years but I don't really remembering Homonculus suffering very much. He destroyed that city, got pretty much everything he wanted, and in the end he just got killed. I don't remember any torture.
And BlackWarGreymon should be more on the left since his suffering was just for being born, before he really did anything evil and then he only started doing evil things because the pain was telling him to.

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>>157551108
>You're not very popular irl, don't you?
Come on anon, try typing before you make a come back.

>>157551198
*not

>>157551206
He lived for centuries in a bottle if i remember correctly.

>>157551229
>typing
But I have to use my brain and hands... Too lazy for that.

>>157551198
You can take a picture. Otherwise, it is difficult to believe someone on internet.

Don't do it tho, I don't give a fuck.

>>157551016
S70 doesn't seem like enough for his character.
What about the other LB characters? Masato arguably has it worse because he has to constantly put on his act despite knowing the situation in the real world where as Kyousuke just gives up and goes into a depression.

>>157551290
Even if I do that you're gonna think I used paint or some shit, so meh.

Why is Nao at 80 on deserved? She did nothing wrong and only wanted to survive with her family.

>>157544847
Is there a key anywhere or something for what characters those photos are of?
There are a fair few I feel are familiar, but I can't remember where from and it's driving me nuts.

>>157550948
Your mother ever outright hating you is permanently damaging and is far worse than misguided neglect
A childhood like that doesn't really match the level of suffering that the chart is showing, especially when you consider she's in between geiger counter girl and Ozaki

>>157551484
OP isn't the chart creator. Try find the anon in charge in the thread.

>>157551290
>You can take a picture
>what is a web console

>>157551484
>>157551530
I'm in charge of these thread now. I'm sorry, but there's no key in my pockets. You will have to sleep outside for today.

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>>157544847
Nominating Shinji Matou for the 80/80 spot.

>Be a fucking super Genius that amazing at whatever you try.
>Be constantly praised for it.
>Just want to do magic.
>Can't do magic because no magic circuits
>Great Great Great Grandpa constantly ridicules you for it.
>Try so hard to learn magic that you memorize all the family magic by heart.
>Still can't do shit cause no magic circuits.
>Great Great Great Grandpa brings in a girl and tells you she's your replacement.
>Enters a self destructive spiral due the only thing he wants to do being the only thing he can't do.
>becomes an A-class scum bag by beating and raping his new sister and trying to sacrifice the entire school for magic power
>Dies like a bitch.

Being Shinji is suffering.

>>157551484
Just ask 'Who is the guy in Sx Dx?'

>>157551726
We really don't need more fate characters.

>>157551486
>Your mother ever outright hating you is permanently damaging and is far worse than misguided neglect
That's debatable, but even so, add the malnutrition to this and she becomes deserving of her ranking. Especially looking at characters that shouldn't be here like Onizuka, the guy from Initial D, Sinbad and Makoto.

>>157550650

He had good intentions but everything that mae him suffer after he shot his dad he brought it on himself.

>>157551726
>shinji suffered more than kiritsugu

ok bro.

Once all the spots are filled, are we going to replace any characters? It doesn't seem right to have side characters from obscure series in the chart while missing iconic characters like >>157547337

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>>157544847
>not even a single character from Nanoha
wow fuck you too, /a/

Alright, it turns out that I have time to do this for a bit. I'm open to your suggestions.

>>157551933
Maybe. It's up to ChartAnon to decide.

>>157551972
>I'm open to your suggestions.
Ok, delete the entire chart and start again.

>>157551914
Oh didn't see him there. I guess we should put him n the 70/45 spot instead.

>>157552017
Fuck you. We're on this chart for a week now.

>>157551786
This.

>>157552043
Seriously, a week? Well, it's not like you have a life so another week makes no harm.

>>157551972
Read this:
>>157549940
>>157550174
>>157550437
>>157550637
>>157550948
>>157551486
>>157551806
And decide whether Megumin should be lowered because of Kayo being in the same row.

tru, I forgot about the stuff from before the show

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>it took /co/ more or less 3 threads to get this shit done
>/his/ got to pic related in their second chart thread

>/a/ is going to finsh this only after more or less 6 threads of autism

At the very least, /a/ didn't disappoint and will actually finish the chart. Not so sure about /his/.

>>157552141
Will do.

>>157551972
Please read
>>157550659
>>157549988
>>157549895
>>157549527

>>157552296
Thanks for the reminder.
>>157549988
Can I have a quick rundown on this character?
>>157549527
Where do you suggest I move them?

Who's between Fire masturbator and Squeeler on the top row?

>>157544847
I've seen 223 of these characters before.

>>157552353
Read more manga.

>>157544847
Who's D45,S100? I know I saw him somewhere but I don't remember.

>>157552393
Squeeler from Shinekai Yori.

>>157552340
please notice my suggestions too >>157549210
Ignore the kohaku one though.

>>157544847
Who's top left?

>>157544847
Minor nitpick here
Shouldn't it be "How much they deserved"?
Right now the chart implies that Yotsuba doesn't deserve her minimal suffering, while Umaru does

>>157552461
Can you repeat the question?

>>157552340
>>157549735
Please change her picture

>>157552386
I will endeavor to do so, so would you pretty please tell me which character and/or which manga it is from?

>>157552566
Image search it

>>157552566
Who says I know? I only advised you to read more manga.

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>>157552221
>Honorable Chairman so far to the right
Looks like some anons need some political reeducation. Filthy rightist.

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Alright, so I'm going to use the opening image.
>>157549895
Added.
>>157552141
Going from what you've said, moving Megumin is more trouble than anything. Kayo might've had it harder, but Megumin doesn't fit in any of the lower rows.
>>157552443
Done.
>>157552541
Done.

>>157552340
>Can I have a quick rundown on this character?
She is Eto from Tokyo Ghoul, she is largely a ghoul, a kind of monster that can only survived by eating human meat and are hated by society at large and hunted indiscriminately. Eto in particular had no real family to rely on, and lost her (probably) fraternal figure at an early point in her life probably what caused her to kill all the investigators (the guys that search and kills ghouls on sight) that almost killed her at least twice. After some years she made an organization made exclusively of ghouls to try and change the world.

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>>157552583
I actually did that just after I submitted it, I didn't think it would work on such a small image but against all odds it did.

Thanks anyways though. I actually didn't think it would have come from that manga, I assumed it was a newer manga from Nihei that I hadn't read.

>>157552640
Well it was good advice at least.

>>157552677
thank you, chart anon.
Someone will try to come along and try to move Akane again. Don't let them, all things considered she's fine where she is.

>>157552709
It was a joke, a bad joke.

>>157552693
Barring Doflamingo, I think 80S is full of characters that suffered a worse fate.

>>157552677
We need to name the different parts of our chart, like /co/ did.
I suggest :
>bottom left : moeshit
>middle left : depression valley
>top left : edgelords
>bottom right : can't get away with that
>middle right : /a/ssholes
>top right : shit got real

>>157552880
>not putting middle left something original like "cry corner"

>>157552880
>People that suffered a lot and didn't deserve that much
>Edgelords

>>157552880
>top right
>shit got real
>Anonymous D100 S100

>>157552880
Seems like a bad idea. The labels don't fit all the characters.

>>157552880
We can't just call Yotsuba moeshit, anon. That would be sacrilege.
Also, I think ChartAnon is already planning to do that.

>>157552880
>max suffering and didn't deserve it is edgelords
You're thinking top right

>>157552923
Well, Anonymous is a shit and it's real, so I think that works.

>>157552940
>>157552934
>>157552933
>>157552923
>>157552920
>>157552907
This chart is supposed to be a meme anons. Thoses are just suggestions I find funny.

>>157552340
>>Where do you suggest I move them?
I would personally move Karin to S40, the worst thing that has happened to her was to lose the movement of most of the limbs and senses of her body and it only lasted for a short while.

Togo should go to S50, she lost a close friend, and the movement of her leg and her memories, but the later two only lasted for a few years.

Sonoko should be in the S55, she lost a close friend, and had to keep fighting alone against the Vertex after Togo lost her memories to the point that she could only see with one eye, talk and move one hand, and I am not sure about the last one. It only lasted for a coupe years though.

>>157552997
You have to at least get the descriptions to make sense first.

>>157552997
You're not funny.

>>157552923
Reminder
>lower middle left: "slice of life angels"

>>157553004
Moving characters to filled slots is pretty much impossible at this point, unfortunately.

>>157552997
I agree.
What's the point of this whole autism if it isn't even funny.

>>157553068
Nothing is impossible.

>>157553068
Then the only solution left is to remove them, because right now none of them has no reason whatsoever to be where they are.

>>157552997
Then I suggest you try harder to be funny

>>157544847
Move emergence girl up to 90. She suffered more than fucking Veral.

>>157553122
>>157553035
Fun is subjective, anons. I find it fun to call people that suffered a lot and didn't deserved it, edgelords, especially because they are not. This is called irony.

>>157553116
We're not removing anymore.

>>157544847
What happened to Kiyoshi

>>157553116
If you're complaining, you're late.

>>157553199
Fun is a buzzword.

>>157553199
Look it like this, the fact this autistic chart even exist is the funny part.

>>157552920
>Akemi Homura
>not an edgelord

>>157553261
Not funny enough. Too much autism.

Also, we need to put a smug mug label somewhere.

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These are my suggestions.

Grimmer was brainwashed, while Homura acted of her own will.

Sanka Rea had an abusive childhood that she didn't deserve, Watashi got trapped in timeloops and his room because he wanted to redo college (and he blames Ozu for everything), and Satoshi mostly just has an inferiority complex.

>>157553345
Sounds fair.

>>157552933
They didn't always fit in /co/ either.

Besides that, I find it funny to put edgelord and moeshit that are kind of /a/ memes.

>>157553345
Swap Goblin slayer with Casshern, the later is responsible for the world going to shit and the former was a normal guy that did nothing wrong.

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>>157553345
>>157553421

>>157544847
>Fuminori that low

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Implying he deserved his suffering even in the slightest.

He killed his beloved sister and lost the love of his life... He lost his innocence.

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80/80

can we all agree that 50D is the neutral and not 0D?

>>157553560
Haven't seen Escaflowne, could you explain your choice?

>>157553564
No.

>>157544847
Did they remove Slaine?

>>157553564
You clearly didn't get the chart.

>>157553496
S10/D65 has a white space near it
pls fix

My suggestion: >>157549361

>>157553617
No, he's at Lelouch's right.

>>157553564
>50S is loli rape
>50D is a rock
no

moot S 95 D 85

Alright guys, is everyone 80D+ a murderer/rapist or something worse?

Who is 85D 50S?

>>157553560
He's already here

>>157553698
I don't know, Anonymous, you tell me.

>>157553698
Are you?

>>157553698
why is Origami a S85? Sure she wanted to kill all the spirits but she didn't.
Trying to murder someone isn't the same as actually doing it

>>157553604
Kidnapped at a young age as a girl and then went through a bunch of experiments that turned her into a guy. Then Trained into a psychopath super soldier that murders everyone

Just saw they already placed him at 65/90 which is close enough

>>157553604
>>157553713
He's already there!

>>157549361
Reigen is fine where he is
The people he cons pretty much always get relief, he just charges a ton. It's not like he's actually stealing from them.

>>157553345
Admittedly I'm not familiar with Grimmer's character, but Homura's actions not only benefited all her friends, but also ended the single greatest threat to humanity. At the least, she certainly doesn't deserve more than Sayaka.

>>157553496
>he moved Homura
oh no

>>157553799
That sounds like the stupid backstory ever made.

Dumbass here, can some explain to me Anthy's placement on the chart?

>>157553708
Lurk for more than two hours.

>>157553929
Intellectual here, we randomly put it there.

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>>157553799
Anemone has a similar background and suffered much more in terms of physical pain but she's on S65 axis while he's on S90.

This is not fair.

>>157553929
Eternal suffering + responsible for everything

>>157544847
Sorry but who is top left and what was her suffering?

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>>157544847
kitano "how much they deserved it should be move from 5 to 0

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>>157553989
I fucking live on this board you retard, I just don't know all 200+ of these characters

>>157552221
>Jesus
>100S;0D

Bullshit, he got tortured for like half a day then slept in a cave.

Also
>hitler 95D
I'm disappointed, /his/

>>157554076
Splinter under the fingernail.

Does telling people the names of characters they should fucking know by now fall under spoonfeeding?

>>157553698
100D should be people who kill millions

Or traitors, there is a reason they go to the lowest circle of hell

>>157553345
I'm not really sure self-discovery can be called suffering, especially when put on par with people who actually died, but I guess there isn't much room to move him around.

>>157554139
Do you think that anyone on this board will recognize all 400 characters?

Not that it matters, this is a reddit thread anyway.

>>157554139
Yes

>>157554142
This Asshime needs to be 100 deserved.

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>>157553881
Oh boy here we go again

>>157554139
Yes.

>>157553506
to be fair he still had saya

>>157554076
I'll give you a hint: Shaft.

>>157554133
/his/ is leftypol.

>>157544847
Why is Kohaku (the one from inuyasha) so high?
He isn't even dead.

>>157544847
>Alphonse deserved suffering
Fuck off

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>>157554272
I think I got it.

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90/50?

>>157553496
Animeonlyfag here, but is there a reason (besides being a shitty character) Eren Jaeger is sitting at an 80 for how much he deserved it?

>>157554333
The only relation between death and suffering is you are not suffering at all once you are completely dead.

>>157554343
>went along with his brother to defy god an bring back the dead

who /recognizesmorethan90%ofthesecharacters/ here?

The fucking YuYuYus need to be moved down. I love the franchise but really, Sonoko (90S, 35D) who lost one friend and fought alone for a few years being slowly crippled, and then becomes completely healthy again, is not comparable to most characters in the 90S tier, except Kohaku kinda. Similar shit applies to the others, they don't make any sense in their rows. You could ignore row consistency, at least swap her with Yuki at 80S 35D, don't know who's above Yuki though.

>>157554272
Thanks found it

>>157554390
I'd say 65%-75%, and many of the pictures are misleading.

>>157554356
Haters, it makes no sense for him to be there. He should be swapped with Accel, the guy that killed almost 10 thousand clones and is somehow is only in D55.

>>157554460
What is it. Save me the trouble.

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Where is pic related?

>>157553882
I think anon left out the most vital part of his character, which is his mental degradation over the course of the series.

>>157554480
>Save me the trouble
Why?

I checked the previous threads to see why Victor is there. As it turns out, he sneaked in when the chart was mostly white and jokes. I guess he has stayed this long unquestioned because the bottom left corner is not very disputed, or maybe not enough people have watched Yuri on Ice.
He is a rich, hot, successful, and popular pro athlete who is going through a identity crisis because being the best doesn't satisfy him anymore, which makes him feel lonely and stagnant. Said crisis is solved literally in the first episode, when he moves in with the MC. During the course of the series, they have some relationship drama so mild and easily solved it would't even warrant him a 10S, much less put him above or next to characters who get killed in gruesome ways. Either knock him down all the way to the bottom (sorry yuno), or remove him altogether.

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Why is Toga on S10 D80?

>>157554442
So much fucking this.Even Sonoko, that suffered the most among them, shouldn't be higher than S65.

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>>157553496
We also gotta put Nikaidou in the 85 suffering 70 deserved spot since it seems to be the only fitting spot left. Things just keep getting worse and worse for him.

>>157544847
>Kiara
How did she suffer?

>>157554480
If I don't tell you, would you die?

>>157554534
Seconding This

>>157554550
What happened to him?

>>157547405
>How much he was right: 100

>Kyubey is still 100S 95D

Really? His deserved should not be nearly that high.

>>157554575
It would be somewhat painful

>>157554388
He was what? 9? My little brother would jump off a cliff if i was going to because there might be treasure at the bottom when he was 9. both the Elrics need to go down on the deserving list(Edward not so much) Tanya needs to go slightly up on the suffering list while going down on the deserving list as well.

>>157554290
>>157554133
>recognizing our Lord's sacrifice and understanding that Hitler ended up fucking both Germany and Europe pretty bad because of his military incompetence rather than his ideology
>somehow makes you a lefty

>>157544847
Why is Ragna on the list if he is from a game?

Can we point out which characters got in because of memery like>>157554534?

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>>157554388
> you are not suffering at all once you are completely dead
>implying
You do know the very definition of hell is "eternal suffering", right?
Kohaku got his life back, his sister back and made peace with his dad/ancestors.
Are you implying surviving a war is more suffering than bleeding to death in some random battlefield?

>>157554629
I still don't understand why he's at S100. He's not even remotely close to the level of suffering of everyone else there. It's just a meme at this point.

>>157554659
For the same reason Nep is: Their games had an anime.

>>157554700
Then why are tsukihimi characters on the list?

>>157554643
Don't get me wrong, I'd give hitler a solid 65D for being stupid, I'm just saying 95 is way too high.

>>157554677
You're done suffering once you're dead, unless you go to hell.

>>157554659
There's an anime as well retard. As are other famous VN franchises with various anime adaptations or spinoffs.
Plus he's perfect for this kind of chart.

>>157554679
He should be switched with Homura

>>157554679
I know anon, but the Homurafag will come bitch if you try to move his suggestions.

>>157554671
Probably the Dinosaur above sayaka, from Omae wa umasou da na. Haven't seen it in a while though

>>157554715
VNs aren't games. They're /a/ enough to get in, especially since /jp/ refuses to talk about anything translated anyway.

>>157554629
In the last thread some anons strongly argued that he should be moved to D50, but the OP got scared of the shitstorm that the fans of Madoka would throw if he did that.

>>157554764
QB was around the middle right when the chart was still in the beggining. Some Madoka shitstorm ended up moving him all the way up to the top right.

>>157554671
Pretty sure mewtwo got in as a joke but stayed since he actually suffered a lot;
I'd guess Makoto (school days), Reimu, Haruhi and the autistic faggot from Glasslip 'deserving' scores are also memes;
Yuno is there because of wide;
Umaru is self-explanatory.

>>157554764
>OP scared of upset tripfags

What the fuck? Since when did we pander to delicate sensibilities?

>>157554721
>unless you go to hell
Like half of those characters.

>>157554764
What a pussy.

>>157554671
I'd say Iketani at S45, D65. There's no reason why he and Itsuki at S25, D45 are so far apart when they had similar circumstances (girl troubles fucking boo hoo). I'd say just remove Iketani entirely or replace Itsuki with him.

>>157554679
desu, anyone that hasn't lived for longer than they should have and suffered all through that time isn't really 100 tier

Agni is debatably 100 suffering because of the constant fire, which is actually gone now so he is actually having an ok time

Guts really hasn't suffered that much, all that happened to him was his friends dying and NTR

100 should be reserved for infinite suffering with no chance of ending
95 should be a near infinite amount of suffering which they somehow escape from or find peace

>>157544847
Who is that at S:15/D:50?
Looks like a Mamoru Hosoda character.
Which would lead to another question: what Hosoda character deserves so much suffering?

>>157549210
Is anyone against these changes?
>>157549361
Apart from this guy >>157553820
Is anyone against the changes? Reigen won't be moved then.

It's time for the discussion everybody loves
WHERE SHOULD KYUBEY GO?
Please use arguments, I'm counting on you guys.

>>157554535
Isn't she a murderer?
>>157554534
How about we change him with the S15/D0?

>>157554534
He should be replaced with someone low level, I was thinking Kotetsu from Tiger & Bunny or Natsuki from Tsuritama.

>>157555007
What did Kiara go through?

I would switch Kiritsugu with Yuno.

Kiritsugu has a sort of extreme moral philosophy, but ultimately doesn't do edgy things for the sake of being edgy. Yuno continued to put the entirety of humanity at stake for no justifiable reason.

>>157555007
>WHERE SHOULD KYUBEY GO?
Get it off the list.
>Please use arguments
Fuck Madokafags.

>>157555007
Just remove kyubey. He deserves a high D but a low S and there's no spots to move him to anyway.

>>157554960
There are only a handful of Mamoru Hosoda films and you still don't know who it is? Get out.
Though, I myself am also wondering about her placement on the D-axis.

>>157555048
But what did Watashi even do to deserve anything?

Just take all the madoka shit off the charts since madokafags can't behave and keep fucking up the chart

>>157554946
>which is actually gone now so he is actually having an ok time
He's not on fire anymore but 100% insane, which isn't particularly better.

>>157554813
Haruhi makes sense, she's completely spoiled and does real stupid shit on her whims but also holds responsibility because of her 'nature', which she's completely unaware of, which is why she makes sense on a chart like this where we can slap a 'deserves to suffer' label.
Reimu also makes sense, you wouldn't know that since you're a secondary. The recent suggestion to move her to the left is good.

>>157555007
What do you think of the placement of the YuYuYus issue?

I also, I agree with the anons in the last thread, a being that did everything he did for the greater good shouldn't be D95.

>>157555084
Nigga he was at somewhere like s60 and D100 a few threads ago.

>>157555109
When you lose your mind, the suffering stops affecting you. Also he has a replacement Luna so all is fine

>>157555007
I've used arguments in three threads now.

Kyubey's actions were for the greater good of the entire universe, more so, he was simply doing his job as a universal energy gatherer. He might have fucked over many teenage girls, but he didn't do it maliciously nor did he deprive them of a choice and compensation. He deserves no more than 50D, and even that is high.
As for suffering, literally nothing at all happened to him until the end of rebellion, and that was like an instantaneous thing. There's too many madoka characters as is, and Kyubey has been an issue, I say we just remove him and find a better 100S95D

>>157554764
He sent children to their deaths via psychological breakdown, creating monsters that could kill hundreds or even thousands of people, and was content to continue with this process even though he realized it would wipe out the entire planet. The only species that would exist for long enough for the heat death of the universe to be a significant threat is his own. On top of than, when Madoka changes the universe to prevent the creation of witches, he attempts to subvert her in order to recreate the original system, for the sole purpose that it generates energy faster. After being thwarted by Homura, he becomes the energy generator by being the dump for the collective despair of all magical girls, which is very much karmic retribution for what he has done.

>>157555078
>>157555084
>>157555160
Kyubey has been a problem for some time now and moving him will only start discussions. With your inputs he should be around 50D and low S but that part of the chart is totally filled.
Anyone against removing Kyubey?

>>157555160
>100S95D
Mendonza is a perfectly fit for the D95 spot. We would only need to find a new S100.

>>157555160
>Muh greater good

Utilitarians need to fuck off. It's not like they can't use other ways to find out how to create more energy, they are just lazy fucks that use the most "effecient" method, not caring about the people it effects


OP delete Kyubey, they are like an entire race anyway or some shit.

>>157555207
Well we could just put him somewhere else in the row and shift everyone else, but it depends if he stays.

>>157555207
I personally think 80/80 would be just fine for him, but since everyone is saying to remove him, go for it.

>>157555267
Would be too much trouble and the Madokafans would start a shitstorm again, just remove him already.

>>157555207
Thank you based chart anon, like 8 people say to remove him now, get it done with before the madokafags catch on

>>157555207
Kyubey is actually only on this chart purely by fangasm. It's not even explicitly clear how much he suffers at the end when he gets fucked, or is even aware of it.
If anything, you could just have an off-chart section for 'potential nominees', which would also facilitate swapping and removing for other problematic characters and whatnot.

>>157555052
I don't know, sorry
But I think Kohaku would have a similar suffering as doflamingo or asuka so I agree with the suggestion

>>157555099
But that's the lowest D spot!

>>157555130
Isn't one of them S90? I think that's a bit high, but one anon was arguing that she should be there, I'll try to find the argument

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>>157555093
>There are only a handful of Mamoru Hosoda films and you still don't know who it is? Get out.
Not my fault his characters all look the same.
Also, the fact I watch his movies doesn't mean I'm a fan. I have no obligation to know all of his MCs from some 15x15 dumb portrait.
Makoto from Toki wo Shoujo and the MC from Summer Wars are practically identical.

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>>157554623
You really need to get off your keester and read Golden Kamui already, one of the best currently running manga right now.

Basically just a quick run down the list he was the younger brother of an inseparable pair of twins who fought in the brief but brutal Russo-Japanese war who made his debut getting kicked in the face by an immortal guy.

After capturing and getting in several fights with the immortal guy Nikaidou finds his older brother had his neck snapped and his corpse disemboweled after a botched murder attempt (hence 70 deserved) with drives him to the brink of insanity.

What pushes him off the brink and completely over the deep end was getting the entire back of his head peeled off of his skull by a brown bear in a fashion that makes dismemberment look preferable while disobeying orders from his CO and left to writhe with his exposed skull in the snow. Said CO decides to torture him almost immediately afterwards by cutting off his remaining ear with a straight razor.

He strikes a deal with the CO and is abused both verbally and physically on a regular basis, has pretty much completely lost his mind, talks to his own severed ear believing it to be his twin brother, and says his one reason for staying alive is living long enough to kill the immortal.

He almost got his wish recently when he finally managed to find him by sheer chance after so long, and ended up getting his leg cut off by fucking Hijikata Toshizo of all people. He is still alive and his suffering only multiplies the longer he stays alive. It will, beyond any shadow of a doubt, only get worse for him.

>>157555267
I think there are too many ways to interpret his actions and character so theres no satisfying place to put him where everyone agrees.

>>157555332
That'll just detract from the chart proper because all the problem characters are the popular ones

Alright I'm removing Kyubey since we have too many complains about him and we have 3 Madoka characters in the chart without counting him
Is everyone ok with Mendoza going to S100/D95?

>>157555160
>greater good of the entire universe
For the preservation of his own species. 99.99999999999999% species would have gone extinct by other means billions of years before the heat death of the universe.
> but he didn't do it maliciously
True.
>nor did he deprive them of a choice and compensation
He deliberately withheld information in order to make his contract more attractive. That is deception.
All of this was before he decided to fuck over humanity by controlling Madoka and recreating witches.
>literally nothing at all happened to him until the end of rebellion, and that was like an instantaneous thing
He's retconned into bearing the collective despair and suffering of every magical girl that has ever existed, for all eternity.

How about we create a key that highlights characters that are time-travel related, as time travel is an unfair advantage on the scale of suffering

>>157555372
Fine by me.

>>157555415
Nah, there are not many and it's too much work.

Oh and we had some complains about Eren D scale too. Should we move him to a lower D (55-60) and everyone in that line one block to the right?
I only watched SnK season 1 so Idk about the manga, but I don't think he's a murderer