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Why is he crying?
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>>157520451
no heir
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He's in a shit show.
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>>157520627
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>>157520767
Adoption
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I'm reading Naruto and I have to say Madara and Tobi are the most uninteresting characters in the entire story so far.

Hopefully Kaguya will be better.
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>>157521629
lol
honestly though madara was at least great in how entirely convinced he is that he's right, obito is just awful brainwashing and uchiha edginess
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>>157521837
>obito is just awful brainwashing and uchiha edginess

Yeah, I find him the most annoying. He was fun when Deidara was around but after he was killed he became shitty.
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>>157522570
the frilled neck lizard jutsu is easily the strongest ability in any shounen manga
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>>157520451
He was just remembering the good old days when shading and noses still mattered.
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>>157520627
And eyebrows
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>>157521837
>entirely convinced he is that he's right

Are you implying he isn't? Had Kishi not pulled off that Kaguya and Zetsu bullshit, Madara lotus eater machine would be the best solution to ending all the suffering of the world.
Madara was right, even the fucking anime staff knew he was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIG4_FLvRb0
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>>157520451
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I actually want Gaara to join Shukaku again. Maybe Shukaku after seeing how Kurama is beryl close to Naruto, decides he wants to become even better so joins forces with Gaara, i tsunade be a nice power boost for Gaara too.
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>>157522717
honestly that's not even a time thing, the animation quality goes wildly up and down through the whole series
the only thing that's static about this whole series is how comically poorly sound effects are done (after shows like gup, it's absolutely hilarious how stuff in older shows sound)
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>>157523039
I thought Naruto is the new host for Shukaku?
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>>157522717
Mitsuki had a nice nose and shading when he was drowning two weeks ago.
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I started to watch Naruto when it was around the Rasengan arc, and Iswitched to the manga when the anime was on Pain arc. To be honest, it's not great.

Most of the fight sceens are sub-par and the story went bananas, but the final Naruto vs Sasuke fight is worth watching.
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>>157523138
Nope, Naruto only has complete Kurama inside of him now, B has 8 tails, the other 7 are free to roam around like normal animals.
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>>157523138
nah they all left a small amount of their energy in naruto so they could meet in him and discuss if needed, but assumedly most of their energy will re-amass and they will reincarnate
although now that they're not super angry monsters and more of just sentient beings it'd be nice to see in boruto if they change the nature of hosts and tailed beasts
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I thought the frog prophesized that Naruto is going to become the jinchuuruki of all tailed beast and become the savior of the world
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>>157523173
the only reason anyone cares about this is because they're a fujo or are here for the cute girls (me included)
honestly despite its lows and getting lost dragging its feet a lot
-I'm looking at you part when the manga stagnated to chasing akatsuki and sasuke edginess with no plot developments until shikamaru's arc
-also the kage summit retardation and the 5 kages and random lightning ninjas (characters we're not familiar with or care about) fighting shit in the war
the high parts of naruto are really great though
I mean there's definitely better stuff out there though, but the popularity needs to continue so I can keep getting my 12 year old hinata lewds
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>>157523343
Nope. Gamamaru said that there will be a boy with blue eyes that would learn all the tailed beasts' name and fight with them
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>>157522826
top ending
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>>157523457
I really can't pinpoint where Naruto started to go downhill, but until the beginning of shipudden it was rather ok, despite all the fillers.
After that everything seemed to be falling apart. At least we can agree that Hinata is best girl.
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can current gaara beat any of the 3 sanins?
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>>157523457
Naruto is a horrible story (most of the time) but its world has a lot of potential to be great.
Hopefully Boruto's slow start means it will be focused on fleshing out the characters and world building instead of rushing into fights.
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>>157520451
>>157521837
>lol

Fuck off Narutards
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>>157523786
Prolly Tsunade since she's more of a medic ninja
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>>157523784
I really just feel it's up and down, the stuff I honestly don't like is probably (although I'm sure it varies for some people):
the sannin arc,
a lot of the akatsuki-chasing shit, like when they waste a whole volume fighting itachi and kisame only for them to just be projections at half their actual power (and the slow gathering of hosts,
also after the timeskip, the threat of death seems a lot more removed (I honestly, I think gaara and guy at the very least should be dead, the pain thing didn't come off as poorly
the establishment of interesting and fun characters with cool stories that don't get fleshed out enough,
DANZO,
sasuke (despite getting a ton of focus, he honestly doesn't change at all in his goals or retardation until he starts raising the dead),
and they do a mistake they made repeatedly in fillers late in the manga where they make characters we don't care about fight more characters we don't care about

to have a shounen battle manga, you want a good balance of action, drama, and comedy that stays about the same as it goes on (otherwise you'll alienate people that were fans at the start) while meeting the deadlines and whatever your crazy editor says, naruto really started to abandon those to keep up with some twisted demand for constant fighting
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>>157524083
>half their actual power
30%
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Who else is hyped for ep7? Naruto and hinata are showing up and we'll learn more about his eye.
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>>157523983
Honestly, the main kick I get out of Naruto is that it's been 10 years since its popular peak and 3 since it ended and it still triggers norms and weeaboos that try too hard to fit in
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>>157524680
I fucking hope so. To be honest I just want show about old characters and their adventures and life, not some literally who kids.
Also can someone fucking tell me why are they all chuunin level when they just started the academy?
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which Hinata is the best Hinata?
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>>157524833
they're all pretty great, but only 1 is the cutest
>>157524789
yeah, some more blank period stuff would be neat
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>>157524833
shippuuden hinata
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>>157524833
I only like part 1 Hinata, the long hair made her generic but the cut she has as an adult is even worse.
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>>157524680
I'm only interested in who shows up in Boruto's dream.
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>>157524833
Alternate reality hinata best hinata
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Anyone else hate the last episode? The whole thing was stupid as fuck.

>First quarter all the information that was communicated was, "girl is being stalked, maybe"
>Pointless scene where they show them buying food
>Why is brown bitch talking so much?
>Horrible food joke/analogy/abortion
>Find stalker with no effort or conflict at all
>The most uncomfortable and awkward scene written in Naruto history happens and goes on for two minutes too long
>The parts where they were inside the school avoiding the stalker were actually entertaining and well-animated
>Scene goes outside, where right before a fight scene happens brown bitch decides she wants to keep talking again
>We get horribly written food analogies from this completely irrelevant character in lieu of a fight scene.
>Scene pretty much just ends
>Talking about bullshit the rest of the episode

Everything about the stalker plot irked me. It's like it started to redeem itself after that awful scene where he is pressured into confessing after being outed as a stalker but then Choji's kid decides she needs to be the star when the episode wasn't even about her, it was about the class rep. This episode just felt really unfocused and pointless, like it was a Frankenstein of what this episode was supposed to be, girl getting stalked, and another episode where brown bitch got development.
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>>157525417
shittiest abomination hinata that never should have happened you mean?
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>>157525033
No it didn't, her hair was still unique and now she looked more like Hyuuga princess.
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>>157525512
Stalker spotted.
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>>157525527
>he didnt like strong, independent woman

Are you an arab by some chance?
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>>157525581
Are you a numale by some chance?
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>>157525512
>is fucking invisible
>nobody notices me
what did he mean by this
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>>157524789
>Also can someone fucking tell me why are they all chuunin level when they just started the academy?

All of the main cast are the top students in their classes and are descendants direct of the strongest ninja that fought in the 4th shinobi war.

Denki and Sumire have no ability as ninja in comparison since one has a no name ninja as a father and the other is an orphan.
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So why did Obito pretend to be retarded for a while? That always bugged me.
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>>157525726
>tfw if danzo lived, sumire could've been an edgy powerful root assassin
honestly I'd be ok though if with the time of peace and stuff, there'd be more mediocre jobs and such for people working for the village, that's the reason the academy is doubling as a regular school too now anyways, I don't think denki's dad even intends to let his son become a ninja too
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>>157525614
Kishimoto is the George Lucas of symbolism. Or whoever the hell is writing this crap.
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>>157525948
I'm rewatching naruto and I found a new related plot hole.
After the fight Chiyo+Sakura against Sasori, Tobi and Zetsu come to recover his Akatsuki ring and Tobi asks if he can now become a member since there is one new free slot. Black Zetsu says that it's not that easy and White Zetsu responds that Tobi is a good kid and they should let him in.
Problem is both Zetsu should know Tobi is Obito and there was nobody else there.
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>>157526062
My favorite plot hole is the timeline problems.
Orochimaru left the Akatsuki 7 years before the end of Part 1.
The problem with that is that it means that Itachi was at least fucking 10 when he joined the organization. 3 years before the Uchiha massacre.
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>>157526062
Speaking of plot holes I think Kabuto was initially supposed to have an entirely different backstory in part 1.

Originally it seemed like he wanted to betray Orochimaru (Orochimaru noticed it and told him to kill Sasuke if he wanted to stop him) but by the end of his story Kishi made it seem like he admired Orochimaru and clung to him for stability instead.
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>>157525726
>All of the main cast are the top students in their classes and are descendants direct of the strongest ninja that fought in the 4th shinobi war
Doesn't explain why they're at that level when entering the Academy. Remember that main cast of Naruto was also mostly children of leaders of their respective clans, while Naruto was child of 4th Hokage and Sasuke was an Uchiha, but they were still shit when at the academy.
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why is temari so fucking sexy ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>157526165
Holy shit I never noticed that
>>157526191
Yeah, I noticed this.

Also I remember they said that Hiruzen was actually the strongest Hokage and also the strongest Kage of his reign.
Then fucking Hashirama happened.
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>>157526062
I remember realizing this at some point but assumed I was missing something. I didn't think there would be that big of a plot hole.
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>>157526062
>>157526165
>>157526191
>>157526277
This is what happens when you don't plan things.

I'm more amazed Kishi's editors didn't catch any of this.
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>>157526062
Let's try to name all the plotholes

Classic ones:
>Sasuke's escape
>How the fuck did someone give a 10 year old invasive eye surgery without him or his parents noticing something was wrong?
>Danzo being invented in Part 2
>everyone and their grandmother knew who Naruto's parents were but no one ever slipped and told him until he was fucking 15
>Hiruzen fearing Jobber Namikaze and not the fucking God brothers
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>>157526455
Most of them can be somehow explained, I wouldn't call them full fledged plot holes.
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>>157526455
how is sasuke's chuunin exam onesie flexible enough to fight in?
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>>157526455
>Sasuke's escape
explain
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>>157522826
Madara a cute! Who wouldnt hold his hand there?
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>>157526580
I think he's talking about sasuke's ability to survive shit that really should've killed him, probably either his retarded plan to kill the 5 kages all at the same time or when he tried to kill B
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>>157526580
>out of chakra
>summoning jutsu require a shit ton of chakra to summon shit as big as Gamabunta
>able to do just that and use a teleportation jutsu
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>>157526685
>character that is out of chakra suddenly musters all his remaining chakra and uses one last move when in need
It might be stupid but it isn't a plothole. Also every anime does this.
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Haku and Zabuza show up so much in Naruto despite barely being relevant in the grand scheme of the series.

Do you think they'll be back for Boruto?
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>>157526722
>>157526685
>>157526580
>>157526455
The real plothole is that Orochimaru didn't immediately hijack his body after that stunt.
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>>157526781
What? They died in the first season of Naruto and then were Edo Tensei'd for like 20 minutes in the war.
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>>157526781
They didn't show up in the opening of 17.
In fact a literal who (Hashirama's nameless wife) shows up over Haku or Zabuza.
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>>157526803
Haku appeared multiple times in flashbacks.
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>>157523784
>that 40 minute special where they meet Sasuke in orochimarus hideout
>basically a 5 minute scene drawn out to 40 minutes
>includes techniques that are never used again, such as sasuke literally blowing up the entire hideout with his mind, and then escaping by going up in flames
Yeah shippuden was awesome
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>>157520451
He knows he should have stayed dead.
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>>157522826
>Are you implying he isn't?

He's not. How is humanity going to reproduce?
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>>157526455
>>Hiruzen fearing Jobber Namikaze and not the fucking God brothers

Minato was far and away stronger than the 2nd.

Hell for real the ranking might be 1>4>3>2.
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>>157526219
Just assume they have an easier time of unleashing their natural talent.

Don't forget BOTH Kakashi and Itachi were Jounin at their age.
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>>157527127
Nah. Gaara was one of the few people that mattered in the war.
More useful than fucking Mei that's for sure.
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>>157527312
Don't forget, the Sannin were already fighting in stupid pointless death matches in war by the time they were 6.
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Would Boruto be able to see Gaara's mom?
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>>157527331
That's true but I liked all the Kage that were introduced in the war. The ones revived from death were more interesting than all of the other edo tensei zombies aside from Dan, Sasori, Itachi, and Haku.

Mifune was cool too and made want to see more Samurai.
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>>157520451
If you cry for your enemies you win.
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>>157525548
Well she is a princess after all
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CUTE
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You know I was thinking the Shin clones probably have the highest growth potential out of the young ninja other than Mitsuki and Boruto.

They can learn all the advanced Uchiha techniques like susanoo, kamui, etc and could probably live after eating tailed beast meat (gaining jinchuriki-like powers) thanks to their special bodies.

I'm interested to see what will happen to them in the Boruto series.
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>>157520451
Empathy.

Or joy that the main rival for Naruto's affections was jumping into a blender.
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I never realized Chouji and Karui were on the same panel before.
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>>157524833
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>>157520451
His eyliner got into his eye.
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>>157526815
Mito Uzumaki. Not exactly a literal who since she's also part of Jinchuuruki and the one that thaught Kushina ( which, in turn taught Naruto) about the deeper meaning of being a jinchuuruki instead of just a living, breathing, walking nuke
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>>157521629
Tobi was awesome before he dropped his goofy act.
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>>157520451
Is it true that only niggers,mudslims and spics watch nurutu?
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>>157530116

Are you one of the above?
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>>157530116
I'm pretty sure you are thinking of Dragon Ball.
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>>157530116
>muslims and black people
>watching anime
what did he mean by this
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>>157530873
>thinking only Asians watch anime in 2017
homie...
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>>157530975
also white weeb neckbeards like me, but I have a hard time imagining muslim watching an anime
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>>157531054
Why?
Actually I think it was a Muslim pal of mine who got me to watch Haruhi when it was first airing forever ago.
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>>157531074
isn't anime like, haram or something?
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>>157531091
You know not every Muslim, like a lot of religious people in general, follow the rules of their religion super strictly right
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>>157531120
>I am le Muslim but I'm not actually haha
?
Either you are a Muslim or you aren't a Muslim, there is no in-between.
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>>157531139
This is a dumb argument that is straying further and further away from anime so feel free to continue being bewildered over how x group of people can enjoy something that's grown far from a niche hobby
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>>157528232
Is this an advanced form of Byakugan?
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>>157531185
I'm not saying people like that don't exist, I was bewildered by anon thinking that ONLY those people watch Naruto, even though there is probably less than average percentage of people watching anime in those demographics.
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>>157531253
He was just making a lazy shitpost like how people say only Latin Americans like Dragon Ball
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>>157525948
>>157526062
Because maybe they were just pretending to be a retarded newfig? IIRC, only Itachi, Nagato and Konan knew that Tobi was "Madara Uchiha" while the rest of the Akatsuki believed Pain was the real leader.
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>>157531370
Zetsu and Kisame both knew too.
I'm asking why the fuck would two (three) people pretend being retarded when they're fucking alone. There is nobody there to play theatre for anon.
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When the couples have an argument
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>>157532084
The only thing inaccurate is Sasuke being present at all.
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I can't decide between marrying Sumire or Himawari, they're both too cute
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>>157532238
Or Sakura ever having the balls to throw a punch at Sasuke.
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When?
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>>157531404
It's more for the readers than the actual story. Tobi was supposed to be a mystery. So him just going "I'm Obito pretending to be Madara who is pretending to be retarded." around Zetsu would mess up the storytelling Kishi was trying to do.
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>>157532516
That's not an excuse, he should have another member standing there then so it makes sense.
The truth is that Kishimoto didn't know either that Tobi is going to be Obito yet, or that Zetsu is also in on the madara secret.
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>>157532583
I'm certain he was always going to be Obito. HOW he was going to be Obito was probably the thing that went through a lot of changes.
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>>157532672
I think Obito wasn't even mentioned until later and his only appearance was this photo when they wanted to show that Kakashi was student of Minato. I don't think the Obito plot was developed at all in Kishimoto's head.
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>>157532741
Obito was mentioned (Not directly) when Naruto said he wanted to be on that mounument at the training grounds. And when Kakashi visited it after Konoha Crush. And the manga had a cover with Kakashi having a picture of his old team. So Obito's existence basically has been relevant throughout part 1's story.
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>>157532741
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>>157532878
>when Kakashi visited it after Konoha Crush
holy shit you're right, I forgot about that
Well I guess you might be right then, Kishi just didn't know how exactly is that story going to play out.
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>>157526786
This
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>>157528406
>They can learn all the advanced Uchiha techniques like susanoo, kamui, etc
Susanoo
Susanoo, Izanagi, and Izanami yes. But aside from Susanoo you only get two other Mangekyou techniques, and it looks like their two are that weapon manipulation jutsu and the version of kamui that was in Obito's right eye.
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How did Madara get two Rinnegan to give to Nagato when he used one for Izanagi to escape Hashirama. Because he didn't transplant one of his eyes just in case prior to the fight because he was spamming Susanoo which requires both eyes. And he couldn't of gotten the Rinnegan from a replacement Sharingan afterwards because that wouldn't have been an Eternal Mangekyo

EXPLAIN THIS SHIT
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>>157533575
I have no idea, but speaking of Susanoo

>Kakashi & Obito apparently can control a perfect susanoo despite not having the required eyes
>Itachi's perfect susanoo doesn't have the totsuka sword or yata mirror, it's just a generic one katana tengu
>Any & all information we got about the totsuka sword or yata mirror was from white zetsu & never corroborated by a more viable source
>How in the hell did he even get those?
>How do you give them to a susanoo?

And of course
>How did neither Obito & especially Kakashi suffer substantial lose of vision from all their spamming, when Sasuke is show to have vision lose after doing the same (less than Obito) in the space of a day
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>>157533575
Gaining the rinnegan restored his right eye. This is literally shown the page after he sacrificed his right eye to come back to life.
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>>157533935
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>>157520451
Imagine a Nara-Sand Siblings family reunion. How it would go?
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>>157533956
This doesn't actually say it restored his eye, it just says Hashirama's meat allowed him to awaken the Rinnegan. But fine, I suppose that's the best interpretation. I don't actually want this to be a plot hole, but for me this wasn't an explanation. It just posed further questions.
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>>157533881
>How did neither Obito & especially Kakashi suffer substantial lose of vision
Hashirama's DNA
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>>157533881
>How in the hell did he even get those?
>How do you give them to a susanoo?
this has always bothered me
>How did neither Obito & especially Kakashi suffer substantial lose of vision from all their spamming, when Sasuke is show to have vision lose after doing the same (less than Obito) in the space of a day
Obito had his Sharingan implanted right into his Hashirama cell body and Kakashi started getting blind during the war
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>>157533935
Why didn't Tobirama realize it was a shadow clone?
Did he not try & dissect it?
If it did vanish after being cut open why did Tobirama never tell Hashirama?
Even if he didn't tell Hashirama why didn't he do something about it himself? He never trusted the Uchiha. Madara states he planed to leave because of Tobirama's actions alienating the Uchiha
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What makes Naruto and sasuke different than their previous incarnations and does the indra/ashura cycle continue after naruto/sasuke deaths
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>>157534209
>>157534233

That explains Obito but not Kakashi, why isn't blind as a bat? Kakashi only started to go blind during the war (after apparently training with it so much that he can use it without collapsing for a month or even needing a break during the war) when again, Sasuke starts to go blind after fighting Danzo, which means he's only been using it for that one day (he only used Amatarasu once against bee)

I mean unless you say Kakashi has more chakra control (if that even matters) than Sasuke when it comes to Magenkyo abilities I just don't see it unlike Kakashi
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>>157534307
If Tsunade can improve the transformation technique why can't Madara do the same with shadow clones?
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>>157534515
Maybe using Kamui like 5 times doesn't strain the eye as much as fighting for a pretty long time using full Susano'o and All the time?
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>>157532974
awww
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>>157534515
using susanoo fucks you up
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>>157534414
Well, Naruto is different than Asura and Hashirama since he's an idiot, while Sasuke is different from Indra and Madara since unlike the other two, who seek power and authority, Sasuke ultimately seeks peace and to end the cycle of hatred, like Naruto
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So Tsunade full name is Tsunade Senju?
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>>157533881
The sword and mirror shit was stupidly overpowered, I wouldn't complain if it were retconned entirely.
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>>157534515
Something something Obito not going blind means that Kakashi won't go blind because reasons yadda yadda etc.
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>>157534516
To survive dissection and outlive Tobirama who wasn't even Hokage yet? Without any trace of not being a human body? Fooling any & all sensors & tests that might test this? Remaining active even when Madara is unconscious?
Remaining active for years? Complete with all secret Uchiha techniques, physiotherapy & modifications to satisfy Tobirama & not make him suspicious?

Even if he could make a permanent shadow clone that would survive having it's insides removed and whatever experiments a person who created the Edo Tensai would perform, why would he do this? Why on earth would he give Tobirama what he wants?

It just doesn't add up. Either that shadow clone vanished and Tobirama knew, Tobirama didn't dispose of the body but then didn't do anything with it (bullshit) or Madara created the perfect shadow clone that he knew Tobirama would have his way with, Tobirama who Madara knew disliked & mistrusted the Uchiha. The very man Madara stated he was leaving the leaf village because of, allowing Tobirama to gain insider knowledge of not only the Uchiha but of Madara himself

None of that makes any sense whatsoever.
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>>157534768
A hundred percent this. In fact I think this is the very reason they've never been mentioned again
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>>157534712
Maybe? Her parents could of married another clan or commoner for whatever reason & taken their name

It's never stated. She's got Senju blood but actual name is unknown
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>>157534657
With MS yes but with EMS or Hashi sperm juice no.
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>>157533881
>>157534768
>>157535026
Didn't Edo Itachi used the sword to seal Edo Nagato?
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>>157523784
The beginning of Shippuden is easily the worst part of Naruto
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>>157535099
I don't remember but I fucking hope not
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>>157534961
I don't know what to tell you, Izanagi rewrites reality after the fact, even if it doesn't make sense.
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So Boruto having a special eye is the result of Hogoromo/Hamura chakra combining?

It's probably Hyuuga version of Rinnenga, since Rinnengan requires the chakra of Indra and Ashura (or their reincarnation), so too is Boruto's new Dojutsu
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>>157535184
It's MC jutsu
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>>157527284
>>7>1>4>3>2
FTFY
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>>157535115
I'd argue the title of worst part of naruto either goes to the Naruto vs Kiba fight or the Sakura vs Ino fights in the Chunin exam or that span of time where Naruto has his Bijuu form with no explanation as to it's limits & is singlehandedly punking every enemy he comes across and everyone is just fucking watching

Y'know, prior to Madara making things even again
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>>157535133
Yes he did.
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Rin is actually bestest girl in the story (even when compared to the likes of Mabui and Tsunade).

No wonder Obito went apeshit when Kakashi chidori'd her to hell
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>>157535300
>A sword that can seal whomever it strikes
>The Kusanagi blade can apparently cut through anything
>The Samurai all have chakra compatible weapons

>One of the Seven swords of the mist is just an oversized axe
>Someone just really liked the number 7
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>completely blameless
Reading through the earlier chapters, I miss Tsunade's cleavage.
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>>157535170
Seeing as how he says "I left a shadow clone" does that mean he used a second Izanagi to keep it going? Because attributing his shadow clone to Izanagi just creates more problems
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>>157535300
Since I hated the war prior to Madara I'm not going to go and search myself. But does Itachi use the yata mirror on anything at all?
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>>157535598
As far as I know, he never uses it.
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>adopts a kid
Is garra infertile?
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>>157535598
The Yata Mirror is just a shield that negates attacks.
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>>157534657
While this is true, using individual Mangekyo techniques is shown to cause pain & bleeding themselves. So there's no reason to believe Susanoo causes more pain & blindness than other techniques other than afecting both eyes at the same time. Obviously the pain lasts as long as susanoo is active so that is something. But spamming a single eye technique should cause the same amount of damage for that respective eye right? I mean how fucking damaged must Kakashi's blood vessels be around his eye? Tsunade must be proscribing him optrex & cotton pads like crazy to say the least
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>>157535722
He hasn't slept for like 15 years.
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>>157534136
I just ignore that part. It is just a retcon of the highest order and has 0 impact on the story.
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>>157535722
Uzumaki clan is doomed to extinct
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>>157520451
thingken of sand
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>>157535300
And yet Orochimaru somehow out of it.
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>>157535727
Obviously, so did he use it to deflect anything like White Zetsu claims it can is what I asked.

I'm aware of what White Zetsu claims it does, I just don't remember it ever being used

>>157535625
Thanks, I didn't think so
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>>157535823
Gaara isn't uzumaki.
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>>157535865
Nah, he's still in it, just another pat of him.
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>>157535722
His first love is a dude and even said dude already fell in love with someone else

>>157535823
?
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>>157535865
His consciousness is spread through every cursed seal, Itachi sealed part of him.
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>>157535889
>>157535901
Red hair.
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>>157535823
As far as we know there's only Naruto & his kids left right?
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>>157535474
By the end of the serious Naruto is capable of creating shadow clones capable of taking serious hits and only dispersed from shit that could actually kill them. It's possible that Madara can create shadow clones that don't disperse when they die.
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>>157535889
I thought red hair is trademark Uzumaki clan
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>>157535942
>
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>>157535184
They Hyuga version of Rinnegan was the Tenseigan, Bort's dojutsu is probably something in the middle, between the Byakugan and the Tenseigan.
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>>157535953
Is Karui a Uzumaki?
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>>157535943
Karin and Tsunade
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>>157535943
Tsunade and Karin.
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Sakura is a Senju.
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>>157535977
Well there's a possibility to it
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>>157535999
Tsunade is a Senju and Karin is doomed to be a genetic end.
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>>157536089
Tsunade's grandmother was Mito, so Tsunade has as much Uzumaki blood as Boruto and Himawari.
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>>157532974
Holy shit. I never noticed the Haku parallel. And that chapter title, Jesus.

I did think that Obito was intended to be the main villain who was behind the Kyuubi attack and the Uchiha massacre all along, but this is practically proof.
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>>157525417
This, Bitchnata was really underused. I'd fund a side story of Ino putting Hinata in a Jekyll/Hyde situation.
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Why didn't Tenten and Shino settle down with a significant other?
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>>157535950
Well if I'll believe anyone can create a shadow clone capable of surviving it's organs being harvested, surviving for decades and showing no sign whatsoever, it's Madara. However this still creates the plothole of why Madara would do it.

Remember to convince Tobirama that the Shadow Clone is the real Madara's body it'd have to have a working Sharingan that would work after being transplanted to a new host & convince that host that their eyes aren't shadow cloned. Even if he is capable of it, why would he give Tobirama access to a copy of his Eternal Magenkyo Sharingan?

Do you see where this is getting unbelievable?
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>>157526580
>>157526685
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>>157536279
Tenten might be Metal's mom and nobody wants a dude filled with bugs.
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>>157536269
Guynata and Hinabunta are kinda underused too
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>>157536152
I still want to know who her parents were. You would think Hashirama's son or daughter would be mention worthy.
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>>157536281
Probably the clone just went "poof" when they tried to experiment on it, who knows?
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>>157536549
We don't even know Konohamaru's dad.
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>>157520451
Prolly sand gets to his eyes

Kinda hard when you didn't have eyelashes
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>>157536281
I don't think you understand.
>Madara dies
>Tobirama hides the body
>After a certain amount of time Izanagi activates
>Rewrites reality so it was a shadow clone instead of him that died
>Real Madara continues rusing and getting rused until he dies of old age
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>>157535269
Need to separate it in arcs though. Chunin exam had things like Lee vs Gaara.
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>>157536435
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>>157536653
It...actually makes sense.
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>>157536611
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>>157536707
Being nameless faceless ANBU isn't any better.
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>>157536433
>Still a chunin
>Students don't respect him
>Mediocre at teaching
>Represses his bugs to avoid creeping out his peers and his students
>Have to babysit his friends' little brats everyday
>Low self esteem
>Lost to 3 kids
>No waifu to support him
Being Shino is suffering
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>>157536752
It does explain why he was starved for his grandfather's attention though.
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>>157536763
>>Lost to 3 kids
Did he? Mitsuki and Boruto would've drowned, and despite being weakened and drained of most of his chakra because of the entity he still managed to save them.
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>>157526404
You do realize Naruto is Kishimoto's first "real" manga, right?
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>>157536763
>Lost to 3 kids
he didn't lose, and in the episode they literally said that if he werent posessed he'd annihilate them
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>>157536279
Tenten might of gotten with Rock Lee, we don't know yet. Shino I don't know.

My reasoning for Tenten being with Lee is because all of the New Generation are clones of the fathers with an aesthetic difference.

Boruto is Naruto with a crazy Dojutsu & reversed motivation
Shikadai is Shikkamaru no Temari
Sarada is Sasuke with a bit of Sakura's personality
Inojin is a blond Sai. Seriously, if he's so good at Super beast scroll why hasn't he got any Yamanaka clan techniques. That shit's a tradition
Chojo is a mullato female Choji
Kankuro's kid is just Kankuro with a better puppet

Inojin not having Yamanaka clan techniques is the only one that pisses me off since Boruto isn't going to learn Gentle fist without the Byakugan and the others are all generic

The real question is Kiba & Konohamaru. Iruka I give a pass to
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>>157536571
Are you even reading my posts? If you're new to 4chan then some advice, that's a bad idea, it leads to situations like this where people just repeat themselves.

The entire reason I'm mentioning this is because I thought it would vanish (as I mentioned again & again in later posts)

>>157534307

The only reason it got this far was because of this retarded question >>157534516

Try and keep up lad
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>>157536937
>Inojin is a blond Sai. Seriously, if he's so good at Super beast scroll why hasn't he got any Yamanaka clan techniques. That shit's a tradition

He probably does but we haven't had a chance to see it yet. Taking mental possession of your classmates is rather extreme for the situations we've seen so far.
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>>157536937
>Boruto isn't going to learn Gentle fist
Anon, I ...
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Boruto will shoot quincy arrows and become an excorcist
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>>157532475

Now.
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>>157536937
>Inojin not having Yamanaka clan techniques
Uses it in the manga
Boruto isn't going to learn Gentle fist without the Byakugan and the others are all generic
His fighting style during the Chunin Exams shows that he uses the form for Gentle Fist. And you don't need the byakygan for the Gentle Fist to be useful/dangerous. You won't be able to accurately manipulate your opponent's chakra, but you can still damage their organs.
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>>157533935
>>157533956

I wanted to ask this.

The fuck have he done in the timeskip between that till he meets Obito.
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The biggest plothole in Naruto is the ninja system. Jonin being mostly jobbers despite being called the elite? Chunin is known as a leadership role? Non child genin? The third hokage being a powerless bitch in political affairs? This entire ninja system was so fucking inconsistent.
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>>157536653
>>157536705
No it doesn't.

It doesn't make sense because of Tobirama. If the shadow clone dies instead of real Madara then we're left in a position where Tobirama still has a Shadow Clone Madara he wants to study

If Kishimoto didn't mention Tobirama in this page >>157533935 it would make sense. But because he mentions Tobirama has Madara's shadow cloned body for his personal study it creates that plothole I'm already discussing here
>>157534307
>>157534961
>>157535474
>>157536281

It's not massive or anything, but it doesn't make sense
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>Only 9 adults in the last part of the opening

The rest of them aren't going to be relevant ever again are they
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>>157536763
>Still a chunin
Is he? I'm not saying he isn't because I don't know but from the way Shikamaru & Naruto talk about him I got the impression he was a Jonin & left because he wanted to teach
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>>157537266
>Boruto isn't going to learn Gentle fist
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>>157537287
Gardening.
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>>157532084
>>157532238
Fixed.
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>>157536317

Didn't he basically went to the "Snake World"?
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>>157537389
The impression I got from that scene was that he was Jonin tier but never actually got the rank for whatever reason
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>>157537127
While I agree, it still could have come in handy to mention when they were trying to restrain the various dark chakra possessed people such as metal

All I want is lip service

>>157537128
>>157537266
Well this is disappointing. What's even the point if you can't use it effectively. I'm hoping the anime puts him through a convincing hard work and determination defies expectation training arc similar to Naruto learning the Rasengan.
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>>157537411

Like at least 50 years passed.

He was powerful enough to grab the Bijuus and let his Hashiramas grow without a problem.
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>>157526455
>naruto learns fuck all in the 3 years he trains with Jiraiya
This is by far the biggest plothole, prove me wrong. He learned the rasengan in weeks, learned rasenshuriken which was an incredible godlike original jutsu in a week, learned sage mode, sage arts, sage jutsu all in a week and learned to fully control 9 tails in no time at all too.

Sasuke's progress was actually really on point though. He learned a shitload of new stuff and perfected all his old jutsu.
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>>157537435
>>157537435
Better

But you left Sasuke's speech bubble
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>>157537638
I agree. But what pissed me off is that he didn't learn anything other than Rasengan variations after gaining the Rasengan.

I mean Naruto is such a one-note fighter
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>>157537330
>Tobirama still has a Shadow Clone Madara he wants to study
I think if he wanted to keep studying Madara he wouldn't have put the body in a coffin and sealed said coffin. Tobirama was already an expert on the Uchiha so his autopsy was probably done relatively fast. And if shadow clones can breathe, who's to say they don't have organs?
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>>157537638
That pissed me off too. He traveled with one of the legendary Sannin and he didn't learn shit, he didn't even know his own elemental affinity or even how he could learn what the clone learned after they poof.
Naruto was just cursed to get shitty teachers who never teach him shit. All Kakashi ever taught his team was the tree walking exercise.
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>>157537708
There is nothing more boring in the manga than to see a naruto fight when naruto is predestined to job. It's always some shadow doppelganger faggotry and a few rasengan here and there.
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no mayuges, that is why
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>>157537638
>>157537708
>>157537806

He learned chakra control tho.

One of the reasons why he was so shit at Ninjutsus.
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>>157537708
Naruto is too stupid to learn any complex jutsus that require more hand seals. Look at the evidence:
Shadow clones only take the one hand seal and Rasengan is just chakra manipulation.
Then Sage mode is just standing still to gather chakra which he then uses to simply boost his rasengan potential.
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Nagato's plan was the best, he and Obito should've stayed final villains and that should've been the final plan
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>>157537816
I can't believe Jiraiya teached Naruto summoning techniques day one and made him form a contract with the mountain toads almost immediately, something only very few people have access to, but didn't get him to learn sage arts in the time skip.
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>>157536279
Someone spread a rumor Shino semen was actually made up of millions of microscopic big eggs waiting to hatch inside anyone he jizzed in
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>>157537575
>What's even the point if you can't use it effectively
When it comes to Gentle Fist you only need the Byakugan to hit chakra points and block/avoid shit behind you. You can still target vital organs because those aren't going to shift around, and because of his Hyuuga blood he can still eject chakra from every single one of his chakra points.
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>>157537921

I actually liked how zetsu was the master ruser and how he bamboozled one of the most powerful clans to be edgelords by rewriting their moses tablet.
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>>157537921
not only was Nagato's plan the best, it turned out he was completely right. The only thing keeping the new peace the ninja world has is the overhanging threat of not one but two Ninja Jesus' who could wipe out cities with their power.
Once Naruto and Sasuke die the world would collapse back to fighting village against village once again until some new super strong ninja comes along to force peace.
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>>157537927
>rumor
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>>157537922
Maybe Jiraiya was just a shitty teacher and Minato was a fluke.
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>>157538007
>Once Naruto and Sasuke die the world would collapse back to fighting village against village once again until some new super strong ninja comes along to force peace.
Not if Boruto and Sarada become their successors along with their children and the children after them.
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>>157537927
Shino could probably impregnate whoever he wants by sneaking a bug up the pants of girls
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>>157537806
Kakashi taught him how to use wind style with his Rasengan.
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I'm reading the manga for the first time now. The manga is actually surprisingly quick paced, so fast that I think you will really miss out on many good moments if you don't watch them in the anime since they have pretty weak impact in the manga although the content is strong in itself.
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>>157538007
whenever he and Naruto argued Naruto never had a real answer, the last time they spoke it was just "leave it to me" and "okay, I'll revive the character's I've killed in one of the most memorable arcs of all time"

what a fucking hack
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>>157538074
It only takes one.
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>>157536937
>Inojin is a blond Sai. Seriously, if he's so good at Super beast scroll why hasn't he got any Yamanaka clan techniques
He has according to the data book and he hasn't learn it before gaiden (aka the anime)
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>>157537781
>put the body in a coffin and sealed said coffin
If he didn't intend to reopen the coffin for his own uses then that's disposing of the body, which Tobirama is stated as not doing. In fact it's stated he kept the body because it was a "treasure chest" while he was "studying the sharingan"

As for the rest
>Tobirama was already an expert on the Uchiha so his autopsy was probably done relatively fast. And if shadow clones can breathe, who's to say they don't have organs?
I've already pointed this out, again read my posts.
>>157537330
>>157534961
>>157536281

Obviously I'm repeating myself but even if Madara could create a perfect, permanent shadow clone, it raises the question of why.

But please, I don't want to repeat myself a fourth time, just read what I've already said
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>>157538189
>subs
what the fuck
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>>157537435
>Hinata impregnates the pillow with her body odour
>Throws it at Naruto so he can sleep in the living room
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>>157537816
And he barely does anything fancy with his Shadow Clones. He just pops them out and have them run headfirst into an enemy who defeats them like nothing.

And the Rasengan was hyped to be able to mix with all the elements. Naruto only used one and just made the Rasengan bigger.
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How strong was Nagato really? I liked it better when him having the rinnegan wasn't explained, him just being a random kid who just happened to be near Madara ruined his character, and him being manipulated by everyone, and he isn't even that strong.
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>>157537915
Which leads to the next plothole, Naruto learning shadow doppelgangers in not even a hour trough a scroll despite him being unable to make a shit tier illusion doppelganger and never understanding anything without being shown first.
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>>157536937
>Kankuro's kid is just Kankuro with a better puppet

Shinki? He has puppetry and the iron sand cape so he's gaara and kankuro together
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Does anyone else realize Naruto is basically a scrub without Kurama bailing him out? Fuck, Naruto would have died long ago and/or lost every fight without Kurama. His only legit win was Mizuki.
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>>157532084
Hinata is so cute even when she's mad
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>>157537435
only accurate fix is sasuke stabbing his wife yet again
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>>157537806
Teaches himself Shadow Clones
Kakashi teaches him Tree walking
Jiraiya teaches him water walking, Summoning, Rasengan & Odama Rasengan
With Yamato's help Kakashi teaches him Chakra nature
The frog sages teach him sage mode
Bee, Kushina & Kurama teach him Bijuu stuff

And that's it folks

Naruto did not have a stellar education focus. Most of his teachers just rode on his own abilities
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>>157538274
>Naruto only used one and just made the Rasengan bigger
From the description they gave in the manga rasenshuriken is supposed to be like deidara's bodycell bombing only without any weakness and the effect is instant. Of course later it was merely used as a force of destructive power.
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>>157537330
I think that faggot meant that when Izanagi activated, it rewrote reality by replacing the real Madara who got killed by a shadow clone. Ergo, Hashirama stabbed a clone and Madara didn't die.
Of course, this begets the problem that Hashirama got fooled by a shadow clone, but whatever.
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>>157538292
>How strong was Nagato really?
Under Itachi.
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>>157538351
Even better, there's two dads
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>>157538292
as strong as all the Paths of Pain together
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>>157521629
>Hopefully Kaguya will be better.
pftt.
I am afraid that the manga peaked at the pain arc. From that point on the manga went completely fucking downhill like a train with no brakes.

It's a boring, uninspired and uninteresting chore to read.
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>>157538375
By the time he learned sage arts he was hokage level even without kurama. He has 4 times more chakra than kakashi by default without his fox chakra.
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>>157538210
>why
So the world would continue believing he was dead? He lost a 1-on-1 against fight against Hashirama and lost Kurama, if word got out that he was still alive everyone would be gunning for him.
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>>157520767
True, Gaara even wants Shinki to be the next Kazekage.
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>>157538417
I think they also said some shit about how Naruto could die if he uses it, only for him to bust it out like nobodies business without repercussions later.
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>>157538467
>I am afraid that the manga peaked at the pain arc
The Pain Arc was only good if you didn't know the ending. You wouldn't think they would pull the biggest retcon in anime history, but they do and it's so fucking retarded it ruins the whole arc. It's like ME3, entertaining enough but the ending kills it.
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>>157538516
Wasn't that before he perfected it?
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>>157524833
>>157524882
>>157524968
>>157525033
>>157529422

They are all objectively a shit character with no fucking personality. Murrican otakus only like her cause it's their submissive typical hime fantasy. Even her fucking haircut and her fucking blind looking eyes. Unsettling it is.
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>>157538463
And how much is that?
>>157538441
I don't actually think that's true, but even still, the Rinnegan is supposed to be impossibly rare, but a guy just happens to be close enough for no reason.
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>>157538467
I'm starting to think the editors didn't let Kishi do all he wants in the Invasion of Pain arc (all the characters he had killed so far had not been revived) so he said fuck it and gave Naruto to his editors
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>>157537638
And now Bort has almost mastered the rasengen shortly after graduating ninja school, and even unconsciously added wind chakra to it. Yeah, something that neither Minato, Kakashi (Kages and the geniuses of their respective generations) and Jiraiya (a Sannin) never did. And that Nardo, the reincarnation of a ninja demigod, had trouble with.
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>>157538516
That was fucking stupid as fuck. They tried to add some artificial risk to some overpowered jutsu but rather than going trough with the risks they never bothered again with it but also never mentioned the effect of rasenshuriken destroying body cells again.
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>>157538580
>I don't actually think that's true
But Itachi beat him when they were both Edo Tensei.
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>>157538440
>Of course, this begets the problem that Hashirama got fooled by a shadow clone, but whatever.
Yes but it also means Tobirama got fooled by a shadow clone too. So fooled he took it home for study. And then either was convinced it was real & got real information from it, as well as a shadow cloned Eternal Magenkyo Sharingan that's so well done you're convinced it's real (ie. it fucking works) or he eventually saw through it and didn't tell anyone or did anything once it became clear when Madara's dead body wasn't Madara's dead body. Even after he becomes Hokage. The Tobirama who was anti Uchiha from beginning to end.

Like seriously, it's fucking stupid
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>>157538516
That's the problem with Naruto, it's like one of the writers tries to make these rules to prevent scope creep and then one arc later they completely forgot about their own rules. Remember how in the first arc only REALLY strong ninja were supposed to have visible chakra? Fucking everyone has visible chakra, who doesn't have visible chakra? Remember when Kakashi was became bedridden after using his base level Sharingan? The motherfucker really got better at using it all of a sudden. Re-watching this show is painful because half the scenes don't make sense in hindsight.
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>>157538580
below Madara, Hashirama, Obito, Naruto and Sasuke
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>>157538569
Now you are going to trigger all the Hinatafags.
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>>157538475
If you're going to troll I'm not going to answer

I've already said this. I'm not going to repeat myself again
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>>157538622
they didn't even fight, Itachi just used Shisui's eye to stop being controlled and killed sealed before he could notice he was npt under control anymore
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>>157537641
That's the wall apologizing on his behalf. It has been punched so many times because of him that it gained sentience.
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What's even with the third hokage not stopping the retarded idea to destroy the uchiha clan? The village elders having so much power was a retcon for sure. Kishi could have made up any kind of story about that but he picked the worst.
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>>157538651
The only thing to be triggered about is that it's showing her with a donut instead of a cinnamon roll.
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>>157538780
According to the anime aka SP, Danzo authorized Itachi to do it anyway behind Hiruzen's back.

Why Danzo wasn't locked up after that I'll never know.
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>>157538622
Itachi was free while Nagato was under Kabuto's control, and Nagato would've one shotted him, he needed 2 perfect jinchuriki to break out of Nagato's attack.
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>>157538210
Not him but maybe if the Sharingan isn't active when he died it doesn't activate after death?

It's a stretch but if Madara was willing to give everything but the EMS then maybe the Sharingan wasn't active on point of death?

Again total stretch but it's all I got to explain away why Tobirama didn't have a copy of Madara's EMS

>>157538475
Thanks Captain obvious
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>>157538780
How was destroying the Uchiha retraded? Weren't they about to rise up against the village? Honestly, having one person on the inside stealthily wipe them out before they acted was the most efficient course of action. Problem was treating Itachi like a fucking criminal for doing his job, and then having Itachi explain none of this shit to Sasuke. I also doesn't make any fucking sense that he would kill all the children, what the fuck do they have to do with planning the coup?
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>>157538822
Seriously, the story is filled with plot holes, Kishi made a really interesting world and then went on expanding the story without thinking about what he actually wanted to do.
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>>157538625
>>157538671
Okay, so remember when Danzo was spamming Izanagi during his fight with Sasuke? Sasuke didn't think "Oh shit why did I miss for no apparent reason?" Danzo fucking faded out of existence and appeared somewhere else.
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>>157538854
They literally could have just arrested them on the suspicions of a coup. The Uchiha clan was full of jobbers anyway and Itachi would have done most of the job. Killing them for whatever reason was fucking retarded and Itachi going trough with it although he is supposedly really intelligent was retarded as fuck.
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Izanagi was a mistake.
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>>157538854
treating Itachi as a criminal makes sense but yeah killing all the children was unnecessary
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>>157538854
It made sense by Danzo's point, but I don't see how 3rd would ever allow that to happen, the Uchiha were still a part of the village. And as you said, the biggest problem is that Itachi and Obito killed ALL the Uchiha, there was absolutely no reason for that, and it makes no sense. There would've been dozens of infants, kids, pregnant women. How about normal people who weren't in on the coup? The coup would've been stopped by killing of the leaders anyways, it's not like they would've revolted after losing all their strongest members.
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>>157538969
Naruto land doesn't exactly live in modern times. Back then it was easier just to kill aggressors like that. Not simply arrest all of them.
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>>157538853
That is a total stretch. But whatever, I'll accept it.

If Kishimoto hadn't mentioned Tobirama having & then studying the body then this wouldn't even be a plothole. One fucking speech bubble is the result of this.

So ultimately it's stupid. But it's there and it's a plothole

Thanks Kishi
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>>157520451
He was introduced when Naruto was actually good, to see it fall so far...
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>>157538969
>full of jobbers
They were the strongest clan in the village.
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>>157539049
Then why did ALL of them die?
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>>157539049
Yet got killed by a pre teen.
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>>157539049
Jobber just means they did casual work, they took what they could get. That's kinda what they were, they weren't dedicated to the village and their members just did whatever. Some were ninjas and some weren't, they didn't have a role within the village other than being a well-known family with the most broken eye hack ever made.
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>>157539097
Hey he got help from the coolest uncle.
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>>157539021
Another plothole then. If Danzo had enough power to push his scheme to destroy the Uchiha clan trough and to get approvement of all the village elders to make this official and even overrule the Hokage, how the fuck is he not Hokage?
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>>157538532
I think the manga should had ended an arc after the pain One.
Kabuto being the final boss, Tobi being the tangent residue of the Ten Tails conciousness or memory that only wants to see the world burn.
And that's it.

I fucking hate it how Kishimoto tried to justify all the bullshit from the asshole characters like Itachi, The Raikage, most of the cloud ninja asshats.
And how the most kickass village "hidden mist village" was pushed to the fucking sidelines.

unforgivable.
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>>157536673
How about Tribalnata
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>>157539158
Another thing, how did a weakling like Obito manage to unlock mangekyo? If just seeing close to them die is enough, t hen there should really be far more users of it.
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>>157539158
That scene is so underwhelming for her. She should died like she did the novels
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>>157538920
>Madara dies
>Rigs Izanagi to activate after a certain amount of time because apparently the Uchiha love implanting shit in their's and other people's bodies
>Magically reappears alive outside of his coffin thanks to Izanagi
>Leaves behind a shadow clone in case Tobirama comes back for check-ups
>Spends the rest of his life spying and tending to his Hashirama garden
>>157538853
I think he "implanted" it in his own eye. Itachi implanted an Amaterasu in Sasuke's eye to kill Obito before he gained the ability to produce his own. Itachi also sealed a crow in Naruto that would use Kotoamatsukami as soon as he saw Sasuke's sharingan.
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>>157539214
Is that Rock Lee show still going on? I watched half the TV episodes and stopped. I know they made a Sasuke one, I have no idea how that was supposed to work.
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>>157539158
Le edge.
This was pretty bullshit really, Kishimoto couldnt even let Itachi be what he was supposed to be.

IMO he was an edgy teenager that was tired of fucking living in the village, seving assholes and having a submissive clan. He got a cocowash from the elders and did what he did.

It was that simple and would have sounded and be more realistic. Because elders doing cocowashes to young folk happens all the time.
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What kind of adventures will Uncle Sasuke take Boruto on?
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>>157539176
I don't know. The manga never explained further with the situation. The anime just made it so Danzo ordered it in secret after Hiruzen still wanted negotiations.

Perhaps all the elders wanted the clan destroyed just like him. Or he used Shisui's eye to brainwash them to agree with him.
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>>157539246
the show ended and the manga got replaced with springtime of edge not actual title
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>>157539272
the non /ss/ kind
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>>157539241
What does that have to with anything I said or what I was talking about?
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>>157539158
Izumi and Itachi was incest.
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>>157539241
>Somehow hasn't had his EMS extracted by Tobirama
>Shadow clone fools Tobirama with a usable, transplantable EMS

??????
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>>157538386
nah, fix is Sasuke not being present even verbally
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>>157539158
>We lost the light novel version for this shit
Why is this allowed
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Izanagi
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>>157538532
That's kinda the reason why Naruto is considered to be such a shitty manga although it was fairly decent till pain arc. The revelations at the end ruin almost any other arc in hindsight. It's almost as bad as pulling the it was all a dream card.
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>>157522611
The whole squad couldn't even touch him.
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So who's going to be sad when Boruto ends up in the 3 man group with Salad and Mitsuki? I'm going to miss the misadventures of Boruto, Shikadai, Inojin, Metal and Iwabe. Basically Boruto and the boys
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>>157539751
>Iwabe, Denki & Sumire aren't present at the Chunin Exams

Truly this is suffering
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>>157539751
I honestly have the feeling that Buroto will get cancelled eventually anyway.
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>>157539834

I approve a retcon.
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>>157539836
I dunno, the anime is quite good.

The manga on the other hand...
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>>157539836
I dont think it'll get canceled, more likely it'll go the way of UQ Holder. It's still a thing but it's not crazy popular.
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>>157525948
I dont think its obito pretending to be retarded, just obito letting toby do all of the talking while obito makes him invincible
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>>157539966
I have no idea what the fuck is going on with the manga. I only read the first three or so chapters, but they killed any interest I would've had in it immediately.
>Starts of in media res with the village destroyed and some literal who fighting edgelord Boruto
>Right away they make it clear this show is going to go to shit
>Introduce a "jutsu gun" thereby making any sense of power progression this show might've had utterly moot
>Character designs are disgustingly bad 9/10 times
>Art style in general is really hard to look at, more so than the old early manga pages which at least had some style to them

It's trash
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>>157540035
Obito didn't use the Tobi suit after his attack on Kushina. He apparently did model his Tobi persona on him for Kishimoto only knows what reason.
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Man the viz manga quality is off the charts. I think it's impossible for me to read subpar scans after I'm done with this shit.
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>>157520997
Not actually.
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>>157540202
le pairing faggs ruined the new gen of Naruta.
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>>157539187
I think Danzo should've assumed control over the entire Village and everybody should've remained dead(Dunno about Kakashi's death). With the Village weakened, you then have the Hidden Cloud wanting to gain more power. It's been explained throughout the story that the Hidden Cloud has become more powerful than any of the other villages due to it's expanding military by acquiring kekkei genkai. This is the perfect opportunity for the Cloud to acquire the byakugan. A war arc of the Leaf/Sand vs the cloud is what should've taken place instead of the Allied War arc with the Raikage as the final boss. Have him also be mad about Sasuke for capturing the 8 tails or someshit as well
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When is the new manga chapter coming? I feel like it was ages since the last one dropped.
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>>157540070
Boruto is basically going to be Super but less popular.

With a shit manga, and barely above shit anime.
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>>157538569
So salty. Disliking someone as kindhearted as Hinata says more about that person than anything else. Botched value system.

Brave, kindly, loyal, characters like that tend to be widely liked whether their male, female, or a robot.
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>>157540462

Monthly.
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>>157540070
>Introduce a "jutsu gun" thereby making any sense of power progression this show might've had utterly moot
Naruto literally told the Scientist dude that he won't allow the jutsu gun because he believes that people should have to work for their power and that using it is cheating. The fist few chapters are based on the movie and the whole point of the story is that Boruto is a cheater and learns that cheating is wrong the hard way. I wouldn't be surprised if the "jutsu gun" gets banned by Naruto
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How did Hashirama die again?
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>>157540777

Desease i think.
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>>157540777
Pretty sure it was old age.
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>>157540732
All that doesn't matter because this is something they bothered to include in the first goddamn chapter of the manga. Best case scenario they get rid of it, but then they wasted their own fucking time introducing it in the first place and know "why don't we use a jutsu gun" is forever going to be an option that wouldn't logically make sense not to use in a life or death situation. It's like that time-travel ability in Harry Potter 3, it's overpowered as fuck and it makes no sense to never use it again no matter how you try to justify it. Just don't introduce these kind of things in the first place or at least put heavy conditions on it.
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>>157540777
WE DON'T KNOW!

All we know is that it wasn't a natural death and he died fairly young though still old enough to be a grandfather (don't try to work out the timeline on that since you'll go insane).

I'm betting it was either special poison or Jinton, though if Muu disintegrated Hashirama it should have been mentioned.
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>>157540777
Kishi never intended for him to be that strong, so he never didn't think much of it, later when he turned him into the strongest ninja ever, he couldn't come up with something so he ignored it.
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>>157540880
Yeah.

Kishimoto did make ninja who were plausibly strong enough to kill Tobirama but failed to explain why Tobirama couldn't have just teleported everyone right back to Konoha.
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>>157540856
Wait, is it actually said he died young?
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>>157540777
Didn't he die fighting Madara in the valley?
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>>157540851
I do agree about it being introduced right off the bat, but the "jutsu gun" still requires actual jutsu's to be able to be used since it's just mini scrolls with the techniques sealed within. So in order to get a Rasengan from the gun scroll you still need someone who knows Rasengan to put it in the scroll. People are still gonna have to learn the techniques to put it in the scroll in the first place
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>>157540952
When he got edo tensied, his body was very young, Hiruzen was still old after getting revived so it wasn't the edo tensei that made him young.
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>>157540952
It was obvious he died young. Edo Tensei brings people back as the age they died. Hiruzen died old and looked like it when brought back. So Hashiraa didn't kick the bucket from old age.
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>>157536763
he use to be a complete bad ass wtf happed to him
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>>157540990
Nope, he killed Madara and went home. This brings up a point, how was Madara supposed to be equal to Hashirama when even with Kurama he got his ass kicked.
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>>157540856
I'm betting he died of a broken heart from killing his soulmate, Madara.
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>>157541069

>Edo Tensei brings people back as the age they died.

It's possible to modify that though. See: Madara
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>>157541182
But Hashirama obviously wasn't modified. He's been brought back two times and still looks the same. And one of them was before Edo Tensei could be modified.
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It's amazing how Naruto has so many fans when the story is wonky as fuck.
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>>157541349
It's mainly timing, a new interesting world, good character and art designs, the fighting style was really fun in part 1, Naruto and Sasuke clearly had goals, simple but something you'd like to see achieved, characters weren't 1 dimensional, you could easily see how there was lots of interesting back story behind the characters.
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>>157541349
here for the cute girls and rock lee's spinoff, the comedy parts of this series work pretty well as all the characters are very fun
and honestly most of the plot holes are created very far apart from each other and I think most people just accept that kishi didn't plan to have the manga for 15 years and are fairly small
there's more glaring issues with it anyways in how it drags its feet around and uchihas and danzo's retardation
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>>157540437
this would have certianly would had been more interesting, but kishimoto just wanted everyone to be friends and that's why he kept searching for a surrogate villian to which he could put all the blame into.
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>>157540597
>So salty. Disliking someone as kindhearted as Hinata says
Hinata it's a selfish cunt, she got neji killed and only acts in self interest. Also has no personality.

I can tell you are a hinatafagg that got easel triggered, your kind are such predictable cucks.
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>>157541745
>easel triggered
so hinatafags are artists?
I mean she's pretty great, but that's going a bit too far...
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>>157541563
this and Akatsuki carrying shippuden till the final arc
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>>157541813
>so hinatafags are artists?
How does getting triggered make you an artist?
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>>157541911
I think he meant "autists".
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>>157541911
>he doesn't know what an easel is
I was making a bad joke about your spelling from your normiephone, but then you just turned out to be the real deal
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>>157542009
>I was just pretending!
Of course you were.
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>>157541123
>This brings up a point, how was Madara supposed to be equal to Hashirama when even with Kurama he got his ass kicked.

That's the tragedy of it. He was never quite equal.
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>>157541745
>cucks

Christ. If I didn't need feel like discussing Naruto this wouldn't be worth a reply.

Ironically, that "Hinata btfo" gif you spam like an autist makes her look anything but selfish. Part of her (self-sacrificing) personality.
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>>157541349
Most manga have all sorts of plotholes; Naruto just gets nitpicked more. Kishimoto often tried to explain the inconsistencies, though he sometimes made it even worse like with the whole "Madara used a kage bunshin of his dead body to fool Tobirama" thing. It would have been better if Hashirama simply buried Madara's body himself and never told his brother about it.
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>>157542159
Nut considering just how strong Kurama is, and we've only seen half Kurama mostly, madara losing with with a complete Kurama, makes it really pathetic.
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>>157542268
I'd like Naruto more if the fans weren't just SO bad. Like dear God, gowasu shit are they.
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>>157542347
Nah, it just makes Hashirama ludicrously overpowered. Naruto really didn't pass him until his final power-up, and it's still close due to wood's anti-bijuu abilities.
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>>157542347
Hashirama's powers nullify Kurama's powers so it's not that bad
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>>157542178
>(self-sacrificing) personality.
She was a fucking coward till the end.
She did it because she was expecting to die rather than to recieve an answer from naruto and face the possibility of rejection.

She did it again but Neji recieve the bullet for her and she didnt even gave a damn about Neji's death.

Hinata a shit human.
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>>157542632
>She did it because she was expecting to die rather than to recieve an answer from naruto and face the possibility of rejection

She did it because she loved Naruto. She said as much, verbatim, because Kishimoto was writing for literal ten year olds but apparently that still wasn't enough for the most delusional of adults.
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>she didnt even gave a damn about Neji's death
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>>157542853
>she loved Naruto
If she loved him then where the fuck was her when he needed help the most?
>>157542853
>delusional of adults
She literally has only like 30 fucking pannels in the entire manga anon, the only delusional faggs are the hinatafags who wonder why people dont like their precious princess.

>>157542909
Why dont you post the one that happens seconds later and she is all "Ohhh his stronk hand is hot"
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>>157543161
>when he needed help the most?
Literally when he was pinned down, waiting to be slaughtered by Pain, while everyone else watched on the sidelines.

>Why dont you post the one that happens seconds later and she is all "Ohhh his stronk hand is hot"
...After she cried her eyes out and before she named her son after him and continued to visit his grave 12 years later.
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>She literally has only like 30 fucking pannels

And yet all you need to do to grasp her motive is to read out a single sentence. How dense can you be to not be capable of that much?
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Reminder.
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>>157544725
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwwiCsJeoGk&list=LLolVc5oj1ZZj05ObcLTROIw&index=25
Never forget
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>>157538516
>>157538538
>>157538596
>>157538632
The technique damaged Naruto as he was still touching the rasenshuriken when he used it. Now he only uses rasenshuriken in sage mode where he coats the rasenshuriken in sage chakra and throws it therefore avoiding damage to his body.
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>>157545314

i cri evrytiem
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>>157540777
I bet he died from getting poisoned.
Or someone put him under genjutsu and stabbed him a bunch.
Genjutsu was so underrated.
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>>157541349
Interesting world and concepts. Its easy for people to think up bad OCs for bad fanfiction.
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>>157541745
>Hinata it's
Oh hi there, ESL Suckurafag.
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>>157546471
Not all hinata haters like sakura you know
both are equally shit
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Is boruto (anime) gonna catch up to and follow boruto (manga) at some point? I hope yes but i couldnt find confirmation.

Also, do you think naruto gaiden is gonna be in said anime ?
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>>157546686

Yes for both. Naruto Gaiden will prolly be the beginning.
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What will Naruto be called in the inevitable Hollywood adaption?
Nart Spiral?
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>>157545787
>dying from some nobodies genjutsu
>after defeating the strongest member of a clan known for it's genjutsu and whose visual prowess was so great that he could genjutsu a tailed beast.
Yeah somehow I don't think that's what happened.
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>>157547002
Kishi definitely fucked up by making Hashirama so strong and then effectively killing the only character that could challenge him.
He should've made it so they both died in the duel and Madara later ressed with Izanagi
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Can we all agree that Shikamaru won the GRAND prize on the gaiden matchmaking fest?
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>>157537638

Pretty much this.

All he learns on that trip was making a slightly bigger one, which he basically only uses once ever.
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>>157547280
He doesn't learn new jutsu, but he gets a lot better overall.
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>>157547265
>GRAND prize on the gaiden matchmaking fest
>gaiden
?? Sasuke's dead cellphone??
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>>157547265

Nardo, Chouji and Shikamaru won desu.
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>>157546670
>Not all hinata haters like sakura you know
I know, but this particular autist is indeed a Sakurafag. And anybody who has been to any of these post-ending threads knows it as well

>both are equally shit
Not true, Sakura is the second or third worst character in the manga next to Karin and and post-Tobi Obito. Hinata by comparison is merely boring instead of actively awful.
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>>157546788
What do you mean by beginning ? Gaiden is a few weeks before the exam, boruto anime is before even entering the academy.. it still needs to catch on and explain a lot of shit
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>>157537638
>Sasuke's progress was actually really on point though.
Absolutely not. After he defeats Orochimaru each and every power-up Sasuke recieves is either handed to him in the form of eye magic bullshit, or the result of literal deux ex machina. I agree about Nardo though.
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>>157523784
>>I really can't pinpoint where Naruto started to go downhill
Late as fuck reply but it was going downhill at the timeskip and went into freefall when Pain revived everybody
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>>157547565

Sasuke is far worse than all of those characters.
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>>157547662

Like when they already start covering the manga.
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>>157547678
This. Naruto has to work to get better whereas Sasuke is like
Oh my Sharingan activated? Looks like I'm stronger now
Oh, I got another tomoe on my Sharingan during a fight? I'm immediately on another level.
Oh I can suddenly use Susanoo? That could come in handy.
"Oh my god, his chakra has completely changed, he's now 10000x more stronger and eviler" - Karin
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>>157547973

We must acknowledge that Naruto worked hard to be who he is, even though being a reincarnation of a Demi-god and having FREE ENERGY LMAO in his stomach;
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>>157547786
>Sasuke is far worse than all of those characters.
There are moments in the manga where I had to wonder what the fuck was Kishi thinking when it comes to handling Sasuke,but he does have something that objectively sets him apart from any of the characters I mentioned. Namely, the fact that most of his fights are actually entertaining, and also like it or not he was indispensable for the plot unlike the love interests.
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>>157547678
He was likely talking about his grown during the timeskip, Sasuke skills during the reunion made sense
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>>157548146
>Sasuke skills during the reunion made sense
Up to that point I agree, afterwards he was the worst example of power progression in any jump manga I can think of, baring the last Kakashi powerup of course.
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>>157548276
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>>157542632
>Actually coming to /a/ as a Sakurafag.
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Why are we having a Nurutu thread?
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>>157548133
>the fact that most of his fights are actually entertaining

That's debateable at best.

>he was indispensable for the plot unlike the love interests.

That doesn't make him better. If anything, it makes him worse.

Sasuke isn't just a horrible character by himself, he is toxic to the characters around him. That makes him the worst character in the series by far.
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>>157548346
only if she can blow up stuff
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>>157547973
did you even read/watch the damn series?

sasuke spent his fair share of time training all these shuriken, taijutsu and nintjutsu techniquest

you must've missed how there was like 20 episodes of him just standing on a catwalk spamming fireballs into the air
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>>157548417
He intentionally tries to sever all connection around him so he could be the avenger; first against his brother, then against konoha, and then finally against the whole shinobi world, by killing Naruto and all 5 kage (although for the last part, he simply wanted the world to finally attain peace and unite under one banner, with him as the source of all hatred that when he finally dies, the cycle of hatred dies with him as well)

His intention is about as noble as naruto, although he took the most efficient way to unite people and attain peace
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>>157548386

It's actually Boruto but those niggers began to discuss Naruto insetad.
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>>157536653
that webm
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>>157548668
Well it's not like there is anything to discuss in Boruto yet besides deciding if you want to bang the librarian loli, the fat loli, the uguu loli, or the real loli.
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>>157548668
>how dare they discuss prequel when i made a thread specifically for the sequel!
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>>157548633
It's also kinds implied that, should Naruto's resolve is greater than him, sasuke would rather be the one to die so that the age old rivalry (stretches back from Indra and Ashura) would finally ends
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>>157548757

It's more comfy this way desu.
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>>157548417
>That's debateable at best.
It's really not. His fight with the Kages and KB were the only redeeming features of the Kage arc. By comparison, Naruto vs Pain is the only exciting fight Naruto had in part 2 (if you discount Naruto vs Sasuke 2 of course).
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>>157549015

Jiraiya vs Pain was pretty good.
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>>157548633
>He intentionally tries to sever all connection around him so he could be the avenger; first against his brother, then against konoha, and then finally against the whole shinobi world, by killing Naruto and all 5 kage (although for the last part, he simply wanted the world to finally attain peace and unite under one banner, with him as the source of all hatred that when he finally dies, the cycle of hatred dies with him as well)

No he didn't. He wanted to rule from the shadows staying alive indefinitely like kaguya.

Either way the irony is obito/Madara/Kabuto already accomplished the whole unite the entire world against us thing long before sasuke did anything
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>>157534676
What
If Sasuke truly gave a damn about peace then he would have stayed home or at least visited Salad in order to have her a stable upbringing as to reduce her chances of succumbing to the Curse of Hatred
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>>157549127
>Jiraiya vs Pain was pretty good.
It was, but we're talking about main character fights only here.
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>>157548757
literally the best cute girl anime this shitty season
thank god for this show and alice to zouroku because hinako note is really a disappointment
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>>157532741
>>157532974
>>157532878
Kishimoto is a fucking hack.
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>>157549202

Bort is probably the one who'll fuck up.
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>>157549015
"How can Sasuke bullshit his way out of this one" is not really entertaining. The only entertaining parts is seeing him suffer a bit before the bullshit kicks in.
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>>157525985
That would have been pretty cool.
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>>157548276
She is obviously central to the plot since she's in the center of the frame when intorduced in the first episode.
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>>157549371
I KNOW RIGHT
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>>157528356
>E U G E N I C S
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>>157540437
Holy shit, Final Boss Raikage could have been dope. Especially if no one ended up super godlike like they did in the end.
>Tfw you will never see the Ay break Sasuke's back with another LIGGAAAAH BOMB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0_sq4m-_V4
Oh the things that could have been.
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>>157549335
Immature teenager relationship drama is always the worst thing for an Uchiha, especially the daughter of a god like Salad is. Look what happened to Obito, a nobody in the Uchiha clan
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>>157532475
>Now both the NaruSaku & NaruSasu legacies are in their hands.
Is Kishi a genius?
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>>157549462

Who /hypeforkeikakuepisode/ here?
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>>157549293
I think the hand falling off is just a misinterpretation of the panel...
also in general a lot of it just comes from zetsu's never being well explained and obito being a brainwashed asshole pure evil 80s jrpg badguy
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>>157549571

No, i meant Bort will be the edgelord who'll fuck everything. Salad will prolly be another Sakura, but she'll actually take lead of shit and actually be powerful.
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>>157548633
What are the chances of a filler showing what happened if Sasuke won and became the God-Emperor of Shinobi?
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>>157549709

Never, it would be a very shitty world.
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>>157549683
Will Salad go on a Kill-Bill adventure to bring Boruto to justice/to get revenge for his acts?
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>>157549854

>responsible to destroy her village and kill her friends and parents
>Salad assemble her team Taka 2.0 to kill Bort

I'd be Ok with it.
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>>157549596
Me im super hyped
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>>157549709
I think the best way to do it would be with ghost-nart or bort walking around in it's a wonderful life style
honestly though, I feel that's a bit too big of an undertaking to come up with for filler and it'd be disappointing unless they put a lot of time in to something that wouldn't go anywhere and probably wouldn't have that much room for complexity since it's really just another drop in the sasuke retardation
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Would it ruin the story if Boruto, Mitsuki, and Sarada all became chunin and disbanded their team at the end of part 1?
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>>157548668
And why not? Boruto wouldn't even exist without Naruto success.
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>>157548757
>Well it's not like there is anything to discuss in Boruto yet
Then why have this thread at all?
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>>157549951
Will the team be the Cobras of Naruto and Salad the Boss?
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>>157550045
Because OP made the thread 18 hours ago and people posted in it.
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>>157550032
I mean I feel like that could happen, but mitsuki sucks the bort dick way too hard for him to disappear if they did and sarada feels like the kind of character that could stay interesting and fun on her own no matter where they put her
and we honestly haven't gotten to see how konohamaru interacts with them yet
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>>157549953

It's this week right?
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>>157550067

We don't know she'll be summoning yet.
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>>157550045
there's not much to discuss in any of the cute girl and comedy show threads yet anne happy, gup, kancolle, etc. all get discussed
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>>157549983
The Japanese will probably eat it up though. They love Sasuke and Dune, so if there was a minseries essentially combining the two it would probably sell like hot cakes, so the production values would likely be high.
Also, they could do a flash forward and show Sasuke's reaction to the whole mess once he has calmed down and how he deals with the problem of an heir/his morality
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>>157549293
Spiral Zetsu was seen controlling Yamato during the 4th ninja war, before Spiral Zetsu released Yamato and died?
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>>157548633
How exactly is he going to attain peace and unity for the shinobi world by doing such things?
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>>157548615
>pre-Part I

Few people have a problem with Sasuke until his BS in Part II, mangekyou sharingan powers as the plot demands included.
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>>157551068
>kill naruto
So the whole world hates him with a passion
>kill them kages
So people that take up their place would have less institutional inertia to deal with
>kill/seal the tailed beasts
So others would never abuse their power
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we need black naruto
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>>157551493
>Implying the Uchihas weren't the ultimate Niggas
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>>157551493

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Kumogakure
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>>157551984

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Konohagakure

>Konoha is poorer than Kumo

What the fuck, how?

Konoha seems way more prosper.
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I can forgive plotholes. That was hardly the issue with Naruto.

How about the fact that part 1 ended on such a high note and part 2 was so fucking boring as fuck with nothing interesting happening? Akatsuki essentially took a big chunk of the story even though they were the most boring try hard villains you could find.

Anyone reading Naruto just wanted to see the whole cast grow in meaningful ways, but instead Nardo still chasing after Sasuke for god knows how many chapters.
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>>157523983
I refuse to use "lel" or "kek" or whatever you obvious newfags like to use.
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>>157552115
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And we had no closure with Orochimaru. He just got shoved aside and still roaming free, despite the horrible shit he's done.
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>>157552193

Still, they were prosper as fuck and post-war Konoha is literally a city.
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Didn't Konoha also getting pretty fucked up by Orochimaru's invasion in p1?
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>>157552341

Only a few buildings destroyed and literally 0 civilian deaths.
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>>157550257
Nigger, we have a new episode coming out in two days. You could have waited.
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Best character.
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Naruhina a shit.
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>>157555025

t. Sasuke
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>>157520451
Crying because Naruto is wasting his time and efforts on an ungrateful edgelord. Gaara is the first convert of the Church of Naruto after all.
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>>157555544

Gaara was Kazekage while Naruto was a dumbass. He's fine.
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>>157555555
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>>157555544
>forgetting about Zabuza
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>>157555777

Nice numbers.
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>>157538376
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>>157532084
>>157537435

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>157553936
He was the most handsome villain in this series but his design didn't reflect his religious fanaticism well. Hidan and Kakuzu should have switched personalities.
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