WELCOME TO HELL
Well this episode sure turn dark.
I love Benten-sama's expressions.
Whats the significance of this? Is is just that he's rejecting the gift or is there something more to it?
He accepted the entrance gift, but it's pretty insulting to hand that gift over to someone else right away in front of the person that gave it to you.
I like that they actually mentioned Jyurojin's train during S1.
>there are people who think this is not the face of a villain of pure evil
This isn't fair, Kaisei did nothing wrong.
y u do that
>not looking at benten titties
These old men are not omoishiroi.
Making Kaisei sad is bad, but I can't wait to see how Ginkaku and Kinkaku will react to their father's death next episode. Would be horrible if they start blaming everything on Yasaburo again.
They're old, they might get a heart attack, espically when they're in an onsen.
Someone give him an award,this fucking guy.
>tenmaya scene and pic related
>thought it was weird show is ending it this early
>realized this week's is the seventh episode
Shit son.Author needs to be fast with that 3rd novel.
Those who still hate her are seriously missing something.
Tanuki army vs Friday Club when?
Benten makes everything more interesting.
What the fuck Tenmaya
What an episode.
You should save the original bigger size.
I guess there really are some shows that are "too deep" for some people. It baffles me that some anons are legitimately asking why Yasaburo wanted to join the Friday Club. Learn to read the mood
For a 120 year old, he's pretty intimidating.
Benten is LOVE
Benten is LIFE
You're talking about the kind of people who will sit through 250+hrs of Naruto and then tune in every week for the sequel.
You can't expect them to understand anything even attempting to portray realistic motivation or characters. If the characters aren't literally telling you their emotional state verbatim, or screaming at the top of their lungs, it's too subtle for them.
Looks like this
You're gonna have to talk nice to me because the mood dictates that he has to create a distraction. He couldn't have anticipated anyone agreeing to stopping Soun from joining, and actually joining Friday Fellows would be pretty stupid, imho.
I just wonder why he went that far
He wasn't planning to join the Friday Fellows, Benten just roped him in to keep Soun out of the club. Yasaburo was just saying all those things to Yodogawa because Yodogawa was getting too carried away about his tanuki love so Yasaburo had to disappoint him and say that all this rhetoric was BS to shut him up before Jyurorin shot Yodogawa dead. At this point he hasn't even begun to think of anything close to "free tanuki from the inside".
He didn't planned on joining the Friday Club since he look as surprise as everyone else. The whole monologue was probably meant to demoralize the Professor into staying quiet and not cause any more fuss.
This is the face of a man who gazed upon heaven.
So everyone got it. I started to wonder at the leap to "I actually love hotpots", but honestly that isn't as much about Yasaburo's inner machinations as it's a means to escalate the events.
I think he just got lost in his role while attempting to fool everyone. Benten knew this and had him join just to mess with him. She knew he couldn't back down after all of that talk.
>But the way you worded it made it look like you were saying he wanted to join the club.
What? Where? I was just replying and thus quoting >>157493058. He's in the club now, but he hasn't begun thinking about what being in the club might mean because of Soun's death.
No wonder his design is so stupid.
A lot of good reaction image material in this episode.
Okay so there's 3 train cars stacked on top of each other, the first one has a painting that lead to hell, the middle one has a dining room too big to fit inside of it and the top one has a magic portal to a hot spring.
Also the magic kettle makes it fly when fuelled with alcohol.
And we barely pay attention to this crazy surreal setting because the characters and their interactions are amazing.
Is Jyurojin's train based on a real one like Yajirou's is?
It's nothing new, there was that fan shop that led to a giant lake from the first season too. The normal human in the story seems to ignore supernatural things until they're force to deal with it.
Is this the beta bath?
It's all yours, my friend. Please accept it as a gift from me to you.
You are a liar and a thief.
>It's nothing new
That's the point, it's amazing that the show can have such a setting and operate in it so smoothly.
The characters are fine with it and by this point we've seen so many illogical occurences that we're also perfectly fine with it, even when the show's aesthetic is so close to that of real life Kyoto.
I'm taking all of these pictures and there's nothing you can do about it.
AOTY if it keeps being as good as eps 4 through 7 until the end.
So what's her secret?
I feel bad for Professor
Is he going to commit suicide now?
I was expecting more comfy adventures. That was too heavy for me.
>old-styled speech for serious situations
I love this trope so much.
Is Ben10 even remotely capable of giving a fuck?
What's her endgame?
She wants to have the moon.
Just listen to the ED
"That whimsical girl
Cherished the moon, sometimes stealing it away."
>oni beatings, that was more to feel good about herself
I think she was also partly following Akadama's advice and trying to get stronger. Throwing oni around is a good workout.
We'll probably see her next episode when they're back in Kyoto. We better see her getting married to Yaichiro.
That's the point. She's empty inside so she seek thrills and rushes to forget about the emptiness. She'd probably enjoy her life more if Sensei didn't kidnap her and taught her magic.
Soun was a fucking cunt but i still fell sad for him. I can't deal with wounded animals.
Benten's probably pretty hollow inside. Akadama fucked her up pretty irreparably by stealing her when she was a girl. She fought back with the only weapons she had and managed to wrap Akadama -and pretty much everyone else - around here little finger. But all that power can't replace what she lost, and I doubt she has any idea what to do with herself.
>We'll probably see her next episode
Aye, I was really hoping he'd die and get the hotpot but being shot and then slowly bled out in his animal form is just a depressing death.
No idea how I missed that. Thanks.
For fun I tried to look if Soun was with Soichiro when he met Tousen, but they seem to be all mob.
I wish all anime was as consistently good as Uchouten is, it's just a miracle series really.
It truly all comes together with a studio that cares about the adaptation, and god tier source material to deliver an amazing anime like this.
Uchouten is one of the few series I'm watching this series. I don't know if I just got jaded or if I just got old, but most anime the past few years just don't do it for me.
But this one is something special.
Why does /sp/ never come to visit anymore?
That magic pot wasn't even Ben10s and she gave it as a present kek.
And my opinion about why Benten is playing around with Yasabro is because she took a very liking to Yasabro and she want's to share her fun with him because no other can keep up with her.
Moreover, I think Benten sees yasabro as a little brother of some sort because she spent such a long time with him and he tails her around like a pet. Benten, although she does not show it too much, is a delicate woman who feels loneliness about the fact that no one is at her "equal level". She mostly spends time by herself and in the first season, she became extremely moody when she was tipsy, tagging yasabro along while watching the night view. People who are not lonely don't do that.
In short, ben10 is the best girl.
I saw it just now, it was amazing.
Well it's not the tanuki eating itself, it's that the storytelling surrounding it always drags me out of immersion a bit. Even with one and a half seasons of establishing the social entanglements between tanuki/tengu/humans, the differences in culture and laid back nature of tanuki and Yasaburo's outlook on his dad being eaten. There's just something about the way it's treated that's odd and I constantly yoyo between liking the effect it has on the show and feeling like I'm missing something.
they are magical creatures that have different ethical values. Soun for example being unpunished until now for having his brother eaten or his sons and retainers showing really no guilt for their father's actions.
Have you re watched S1?
I actually was also like that until I re watched it putting more attention, Yasaburo gives some neat insight about it. Tanukis are not meant to be humans, they are different beings with their own views and feelings on the world.
For them it is normal to get eaten by humans, they still will fight to not get into the pot but they can't hate the humans for doing something that's natural for them to do.
Air guns can be lethal. People use them to hunt small animals.
There are the kinds with plastic bullets that are used for survival games, and then there are the types that fire lead rounds like the one in this episode. My cousin had a rifle much like the one Jyurojin was using and we used it to hunt pheasants and other birds for food when we went camping in the mountains.
Yeah and I'm aware of that, but I think it's that the connection still isn't completely there in the back of my head.
The tanuki in Uchouten just feel very human most of the time. From their lifestyles, to their behavior, family relations and how much of the show they spend in human form. It's all very easy to relate to. So this one point of the show having their values be so different is what makes it jarring at times.
I've seen Pom Poko and while the tanuki there may have had the more typical "rebel against the oppressor" outlook, the tanuki also spent more time as tanuki with very different outlooks and lifestyles to humans that constantly reinforced that these characters weren't human. I had no problem accepting their beliefs and actions because their non-human status was always prevalent somehow.
I definitely do need to rewatch S1 though. Hope that'll do the trick.
>I didn't, animals stop being cute when they sell their brothers to be eaten by humans.
I almost got teary eyed during that scene but that's more because I hate seeing Yasabro sad, and Kaisei realizing that her dad was dead was too much.
Though I do agree with the other anon that wounded animals are my weakness no matter how big of an asshole said animal is.
>Benten, although she does not show it too much, is a delicate woman who feels loneliness about the fact that no one is at her "equal level"
Pretty sure Nidaime is way above her.
>Saving Yadogawa sensei's life.
What the fuck was Jyurojin planning if he actually killed/injured the guy? Does he have some random memory wiping magic as well? Would the members have passed it off as "lol I must've been drunk that night" like they did with the tiger last season? Everyone in the club seems like a reasonable guy and were rightfully going "What the fuck dude" when he started shooting
>cutest girl by far
>rarely ever shown in human form
It's just not fair.
It's been a while since the first season so i've forgotten a bunch of details but aren't they aware that Yasaburo is a Tanuki?
Also what is with humans in this series and all this magic, the train is magical somehow and he has that painting of hell but Jyurojin is surprised by the pot that allows them to fly.
>Point is, she's lonely, and no matter how much people admire or fear her, nothing she does can change that.
Nidaime doesn't admire or fear her though? He just doesn't put up with her acting like a stuck up bitch.
Which she is. Nidaime is probably the healthiest dose of reality Benten has gotten in awhile.
She likes Yasaburo because he sucks her dick without being sycophantic about it. That's all.
Messing with Yasaburo, pissing off Soun, and making her own life more interesting by getting someone entertaining in.
He's a crime boss with magic, I assume some way or another he could deal with it.
Come on, anons. The normal people don't know about the tanuki. In that room, Yasaburo, Soun, Benten, Tenmaya, and presumably Jurojin know, but not the others.
>Also what is with humans in this series and all this magic
There's no coherent system, it's just "some things are weird," so each new thing is probably still surprising. The normal people not commenting on the train's springs is weird, but we didn't see them arrive so maybe they just passed it off as some trickery bullshit like with Yasaburo's transformations in S1.
They made a whole deal in that episode of not knowing how he did it and wondering what the trick was, and Yodogawa thinks that performance is what he and Benten studied under Akadama. They don't know tanuki transforming is a real thing.
I'm forgetting small details from the first season, but IIRC Yodogawa at least just thought he must've been drunk and imagining things when he talked with Yasaburo's dad in a a cage and when he flew with Ben10
By equal level anon probably means people in the same situation or with the same background. She's on the border of being tengu and human and is isolated by that.
Nidaime is actually the most similar to her, but he rejects being a tengu. Assuming she knows that she probably harbors some dislike for him for being stronger than her despite this, since she's trying to fill the void with power while he clearly isn't.
They probably think those are just parlour tricks, like what Tenmaya can do despite being human.
They probably thought Soun was an oni there at the end rather than a tanuki. They don't really understand tanuki the way we do.
People thinking you're a bitch doesn't solve loneliness either, so I don't really see why it's relevant.
>She likes Yasaburo because he sucks her dick without being sycophantic about it. That's all.
Nah, there's definitely more to it than that. She genuinely enjoys his antics and company, and I think it's also significant that he's probably the only person around who still clings to an image of what she used to be like.
>Wait. Yodagawa doesn't know Yasaburo is a tanuki?
They don't hide themselves
But it would be really inconvenient for them if every human around knew they were Tanuki for various reasons
Reason number one is, Tanuki love to play pranks and deceive
It's funner for them if no one knows they're a Tanuki as they can play more pranks and deceive more that way
But they don't care too much if they're found out
Yasaburo didn't have a meltdown when Tenmaya found out he was a Tanuki
The old painter knows about Tanukis but no one really cares
They're just not actively revealing it because it would be bothersome for their lifestyle.
That's just what tanuki do. I mean, even in older stories, if you think about it, why would tanuki go around fooling people and shit and not ust live in society normally? Because that's how they are.
>Because humans may enslave them for fear of their powers or to profit for them. Which would be much worse than the occasional tanuki being eaten.
Do the humans know about the Tengu?
>Yasaburo didn't have a meltdown when Tenmaya found out he was a Tanuki
Yeah, but then Tenmaya didn't seem that surprised either.
There's also a few other humans who are familiar with Yasaburo as a Tanuki, like the ones he does odd errands for occasionally. Like the ones who asked him to deal with Tenmaya for them
I need to rewatch season 1
But wasn't that passed off as a joke?
Ben10 makes a joke about eating him, but they might've been too drunk to remember
Yeah but they wouldn't need Yasaburo to deal with it if they weren't human themselves. They wanted him to transform to scare him off. There was also the shop in s1 that knew about non-human beings and was a safe place for them that I'm pretty sure was owned by a human
Mom plays pool and probably makes money from taking bets on that
Yaichirou does a lot of respected Tanuki stuff, but I dunno if he gets paid for that
Frogbro collects coins people throw in the well
Yasaburo does odd jobs and errands for various humans/tanuki, we've seen this several times in the series, he also gets fed for helping out the professor a lot
Yashirou studies electrical engineering I guess
I don't remember them even saying to transform specifically, just to deal with it. It seemed to me like they (or at least the guy who came to him directly) were looking for him in specific, not just any tanuki.
> It seemed to me like they (or at least the guy who came to him directly) were looking for him in specific, not just any tanuki.
It's not like they would be well connected in the Tanuki network if they only know Yasaburo, but honestly the show doesn't make it fully clear if they are humans or Tanuki or at least that I can remember, so who knows
I've been wondering about this.
How many here only come into the thread after watching the episode? I can understand novel readers being fine with spoilers but for others, parts of the episode probably lose its impact if you skim the thread before watching the episode yourself.
Things are gonna get pretty wild from here on out so if anons can avoid looking at screencaps or reading the thread before watching the episode I think it'd really raise one own's enjoyment of what's coming.
I actually wasn't going to come into the thread this week at all for that reason, but then once I watched this episode it was so good that I came just to praise it and leave, and now I'm still here over an hour later.
I only come in after the episode airs, most people in these threads are pretty good with actually using spoiler tags but it's a bit annoying when people are asking for spoilers don't use spoiler tags themselves
Great episode. Lots of emotions lots of great moments.
Sad to see Soun go even with everything he's done. The friday club continues to perplex me with the direction they are headed. Tension is brewing everywhere and Yasaburo continues to take it in stride.
For the end "all furballs go to heaven", does anyone know do the Japanese have a similar saying to the all dogs go to heaven or is this a saying that was borrowed from english?
Let me refresh your memory.
Soun killed Souichirou, his own brother out of jealousy.
He then tried to feed his son to the same people.
He then tried to take his widow for himself.
He then tried to lock up his remaining children.
When all failed, he ran away and hid plotting his revenge.
When found out he threw Yasaburou into hell.
Soun did everything wrong, and he deserved to be shot dead a dozen times over.
Still sad, like Yasaburo said its pitiable. Also Yasaburo even after dealing with everything his uncle has done still had moved on and while still holding anger wasn't exactly seeking revenge. Yasaburo is a great character.
Not in the anime, but in the novel and the manga, they're usually in their furball form when inside the Shimogamo Shrine and sleep in groves, some of the scenes that can't be altered or skipped are still kept, like when Akadama went to "thank" Souichirou for trolling the Kurama Tengu in S1 and when Yasabro found the shougi board a few episodes back.
I mean in regards to his power and longevity. He can control ropes and can paint a picture that serves as portal to hell, he's not a normal human.
>there are people on /a/ who weren't here to watch S1 as it aired
Well that's unsettling. I want to say just slap Vivid's subs on some BD raws (which they may have done themselves), but I don't know if someone else has followed up with a better release after it finished airing.
>Well that's unsettling
Not him but is it really? There are shows I've skipped the season it aired and watched it later. It's too bad when it's good and you miss the threads though.
>Edosugawa Kaisei's Secret
>Next episode will finally be Kaisei centered
Are we going to get actual development between the two Tanuki lovers? Because as much as Yasaburou bumbling his way through Beten's trickery is, I'd appreciate a shift in romantic interest since she's obviously unattainable for him.
Also, just as a side note: This episode was fucking great.
That's what I mean, people that age should be completely infirm already yet he's healthy. Mythical hermits are known to live for very long time and have magical power.
Still got the chips. They're great.
I sure hope so. As nice as their interactions are they feel more like siblings themselves at this point.
It better be pulled off well too. Despite Kaisei being the obvious better choice we've been watching Yasaburou pine over Benten for a season and a half now. Their relationship was one of my favorite parts of S1 so I want it sent off nicely.
>haha, I called some random thing an anime!
If the Cory in the House meme somehow didn't kill this "joke" for you long ago, the Spongebob anime battle posters should have.
What a shitty way to ruin a good death scene.
I hope this is like the spoilers from 4 years ago when hardly anybody know anything about the novels and people were saying provocative fake shit like "Oh Yaichiro gets eaten"
Did Soun ever show that he gave a fuck about his kids back in S1? The brothers may be slimy pieces of shit but it looks like they care about Kaisei and vice versa so their family wasn't totally broken
He can't let Kaisei marry into a family he was going to fucking obliterate.
>mfw remembering how I believed most of the fake spoilers for S1 and was cowering in fear waiting for Mama Tanuki to die the whole season
I'm not falling for that again you nise-novelfags
He didn't really interact with them on-screen much, but he seemed to intend for his sons to follow in his footsteps, and when Kaisei said he'd killed Souichirou, he tried to pass it off as her imagining things, rather than just throwing her under the bus and getting rid of her, so I think he does give a shit about them in some way, though I doubt he was the world's best father or anything. I wonder more about how he treated his (deceased?) wife.
New chapters when?
Also this episode. Holy shit! AotS maybe even year.
It could also be him wanting to keep her away from his plan to destroy Yasaburo's family.
I'm pretty sure his father can do it too, Yasaburou did inherit his carefreeness from his father. The only person his father seems to have trouble dealing it is Benten for some reason.
Shit, I'm retarded and didn't even realize/remember that was Nidaime's gun. So now we get to see Jurojin get into Benten's feud with Nidaime? That'll be great.
His father had more serious aspects, too, and was more wrapped up in real society and responsibilities compared to Yasaburo. I don't know if I'd say Souichirou was personally unable to do this (if you dropped him into a situation where he was hanging out with them, he'd probably function), but I certainly don't think circumstances would have allowed him to do it, or lead him to do it. I think that's part of Yasaburo's value, the fact that he gets embroiled in all this nonsense because he spends his time doing dumb shit and hanging out with unsavories instead of doing something more tangibly useful.
>I'm pretty sure his father can do it too, Yasaburou did inherit his carefreeness from his father.
The one who inherited his carefreeness is frogbro. All of them inherited a part of their dad's personality but they are still their own persons.
>The only person his father seems to have trouble dealing it is Benten for some reason
That was because some Tanukis ahve a weakness. Souichirou's weakness was Benten, Mom's weakness is storm. Now that I think about it, maybe Yasaburou is Kaisei's weakness? And she is hiding because she can't keep her transformations and is disturbed if they are face to face.
Oh, you're right, that was silly of me. I guess they consider their human ones real, too? I mean, they all have natural/default human forms (as opposed to transforming into someone else or a girl or whatever). Or maybe it's just that she doesn't want to be seen when she's a living creature? I don't know, it's not like I understand why she's hiding from him to begin with. Either way, his presence/gaze/whatever clearly doesn't disturb her transformations.
Anyone going to buy the BDs? I'm ordering from Amazon to attempt to get the cd of Sakurai and Mamiko Noto narrating the novel.
Did Akadama ever figure out that his BFF was murdered by his slut apprentice? I remember this line from S1 but that's it.
>Seeing Each Other Before The Wedding
>This superstition dates back to the time of arranged marriages, when people believed that if the couple saw each other before the ceremony, it would give them a chance to change their minds about the wedding.
This is my bet on why she is hiding.
But isn't presence only disturbing them when the Tanuki and the weakness see ach tother. When Souichirou's transformation stopped only because he and Benten saw each others even though he was in the same room as her the whole time. If Kaisei only talks with Yasaburou as an inanimate object. Can it really be said that she is seeing him? Objects don't have eyes. I remember Yasaburou undoing his daruma transformation a little to talk to Benten in S1, with eyes and a mouth.
I assume so. He knows he was made into hotpot, he (presumably) knows the Friday Fellows eat tanuki hotpot on that night, and he knows Benten joined the Friday Fellows that night. And I remember in the first episode he was talking to Yasaburo and Yasaburo claimed to hate the Friday Fellows and Benten, without giving an explanation, which suggests Akadama knows.
>But isn't presence only disturbing them when the Tanuki and the weakness see ach tother
Anon, mom's weakness is storms.
> Can it really be said that she is seeing him? Objects don't have eyes.
She definitely sees him, she gets angry when he reaches towards her and stuff.
Ah, I see what you mean. Then you're right, his father probably wouldn't have hanged out with the Friday Club or other human since he seems to know and accept his place in the social order, the only person he's close with that's not a Tanuki is Sensei and even then he treated Sensei with pure respect.
Mom's weakness was more of a trauma though, wasn't it? She was injured and nearly died during the stormy season before the Professor found her and nurse her back to health.
He probably know. Benten joined the Friday Club on the sameday that his best friend come to him before leaving for heaven, there's only one way to see that.
Drama cd from s1 was ripped but no one ripped the cd of Mamiko Noto narrating the first novel afaik. There's a drama cd in s2 too but again that's separate from them narrating the novel.
Man when Benten snapped her fingers and Tenmaya brought out the pot, for a good half a minute I was worried that she'd gotten him to bring out tanuki hotpot -
right after Yasaburo claimed to have been fascinated with the idea of tanuki hotpot
First season, Ginkaku and Kinkaku locked up Yasaburo in the fake ramen store and Yashiro at the factory as part of their father's plan.
>mighty tengu stooping to paying humans for something